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B.JEYACHANDRAN

KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
09/23/200910:22AM

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dearfriend,
kindlyanyoneexplainemewhatistheeffectofkneepointvoltageinCT.
IfonePXClassCThavingVk>300V,Ia<30mAhowicalculatethisCTBURDENalsowhatistheprimarycurrentwhenthctis
satsurated,
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Re:KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
09/26/20092:26AM

Dearfriend,
KneePointvoltageisnothingbutapointatwhichtheCTsaturates.ThatsyitsalwaysbettertodesigntheCTswhichcanoperatewithout
saturationevenatavoltageappearsintheCTduringfaultcondition.PlsfindbelowthefollowingformulaforcalculatingtheKneepoint
voltage.
Vk=2If(Rct+2Rl).
where,IfisthecurrentrefectedtotheCTsecondaryduringfaultcondition,
RctistheresistanceoftheCTwhichcanbeadoptedbymeansofathumbruleconsideringtheCTratio,
Rlistheleadresistancei.e.sumoftheresistanceofthewireconnectedbetweentherelay&CTandImpedanceofferedbytheinternal
circuitaryoftherelay
ForPSclassCT'sdesignedconsideringtheabove,burdenisnotapplicable.
Plsrevertbackifyouhaveanyfurtherqueries.
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Manimaran.V

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Re:KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
09/26/20092:42AM

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dearfriend,
thankyouforyourguidence,howicalculatethefaultcurrentlimitinprimarysidewithkneepointvoltage
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Re:KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
09/26/20097:44AM

DearFriend,
Plsfindbelowtheformulaforcalculatingthefaultcurrent,
Faultcurrent(inKA)=RatedCurent/(%Impedance*1000)
%Impedenceshallbecalculatedforthesystemfromthepointofsourcetothepointofoccurenceofthefault.
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09/28/20094:12AM

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DearManimaran,

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Canyoupleaseexplain,howtocalculateIaandwhatisitssignificance?

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Re:KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
09/28/200911:19AM

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dearfriend,
thankyoufriend

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Re:KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
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Re:KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
09/30/200912:38PM

Dearmember
ForPXclassCTs,theburdenisnotnormallymentioned.TheretheCTisdefienedbasedontheCTkneepointvoltage,magnetisingcurrent
etc.TheburdenismentionedinclassPCTs
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InPXclassCTsthekneepointvoltageisnormallybasedonthemaxfaultcurrentandadiamensioningfactorbasedonsystemX/Rratio
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09/30/20099:06PM

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Understandfromaboveformulatocalculatekneepointvoltage.Canyoupleaseexplainhowtocalculatemagnetisingcurrent.

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Re:KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
10/01/200912:24AM

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Thereisnoformulaeassuchforcalculatingthemagnetisingcurrent.Howeversomeaapplicationdemandsminimumvalueofmag
currentforrelaysetting(egREFprotection).Iinanycaseamagnetisingcurrentoflessthan30mAwouldbesufficientformostofthe
application
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Re:KneePointVoltageandCurrentTransformers
10/01/20093:31AM

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ya..thatsright..thereisnoformulaforcalculatingmagnetisingcurrent.however,lesserthemagnetisingcurrent,betterisyourCT
performance.
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Manimaran.V

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05/07/20127:57AM

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TheformulaforcalulatingtherequiredmagnetisingcurrentfortheCT=

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[(IOP/CTRatio)IR]/n
Where,
IOP=Relayoperatingcurrent(absolutecurrentvalueintermsofCTprimary)
IR=Relaysettingcurrent(intermsofCTsecondary)
n=NumberofparallelCTsforming(87)protectedzone

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