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Last Thanksgiving Day, a friend of mine was issued a


traffic ticket for disregarding an official traffic control
device on the access road alongside of a highway
that was being repaired. The venue of the offense was
Hill County, Texasabout 70 miles south of my
friends home at Dallas. He was assessed $150 for
the offense.

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The fine wasnt large, but he nevertheless wanted to

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fight the ticket asked if I could help.

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I told him to send me a photo copy of the ticket he


received and Id see if I could devise some questions

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to pose to the person or entity that issued the ticket.


It was my hope that the ticket (being a Notice)

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would create the recipients right of inquiry (right to


ask questions about the Notice) and the senders
correlative duty to answer his questions. It was my
hope that if such questions were sufficiently insightful,

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they might slow or stop prosecution. (For more insight into the strategy of posing questions, see the articles

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posted under the category Notice on this blog.)


I told my friend that I believed it was important that such questions be drafted and mailed to the gov-co as soon
as possible.

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However, he didnt send a copy of the ticket/notice to me until the Saturday morning before his scheduled

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Tuesday court appearance. Thats too late to draft questions and submit them to the person who issued the

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ticket in time for the questions to easily play a part in the court hearing.

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More, I didnt begin to draft questions until Sunday night before his Tuesday court appearance. I completed the
questions on about 1:30 AM Monday morning. We met Monday evening to go over the questions.
In the end, my friend opted to simply pay the fine rather than pose the questions. That was probably his best

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choice. If he hadnt appeared at court on Tuesday, the gov-co might issue a warrant for his arrest and he might

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one day be stopped for a rolling stop at a stop sign, ticketed, and the traffic cop would discover that theres a

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warrant for his arrest and put in him slammer for a couple nights. Then hed be shipped from Dallas County
(where he lives) to Hill County (70 miles away) where he could spend a couple more days or nights in the
slammer. Then, he could fight the case in court or confess his guilt, pay a bond or fine, and be released to
make his way back to Dallas County as best he could.

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Administrative Law

And then, he could drum up enough currency to pay the cost of storing his car at the Dallas County tow-truck

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operators auto-pound for most of a week.

Affirmative Defense

His ultimate fine would be increased for not appearing. He might miss a week of work. The cost of towing and
storing his car might exceed the cost of the fine for the offense. He might eventually lose over $2,000 in fines,
lost work and vehicle storage fees if he didnt cough up $150 for the Tuesday morning hearing. So, he chose to
cough up the $150 fine.
As much as I think these traffic tickets should be resisted, I dont blame him one bit. You cant easily fight
every battle that comes your way. I hate to see anyone surrender to a traffic ticket charge, but I cant expect
anyone to try to resist such charges with just a few dozen questions.
In the end, I dont know for a fact that exercising your right of inquiry in response to governmental notices is a
reliable strategy. I believe the strategy is reliable. Ive seen it work several times in my own confrontations with

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the gov-co. I have a friend whos used the strategy with apparent success against the IRS. On the one hand, I
have some evidence to support the validity of this theory. On the other hand, that evidence is anecdotal and too
flimsy (so far) to be easily relied on.

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The following questions were drafted and offered for my friends consideration, but not used. So, I have no
evidence to show whether the following questions are useful or laughable. Nevertheless, I also offer them for

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your consideration.

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Heres a copy of the ticket I was working from. Like Jack Webb in the old Dragnet TV series, Ive removed my
friends name and address and changed the ticket number to protect the innocent. (Dum-dee-dum-dum)

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In retrospect, I can see grounds for a couple more questions that I mightve asked. But I can also see how the
48 questions Id suggested might be reduced to just a handful.

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Central Banks

Note that the text below was not intended to be sent in its entirety to the traffic officer and/or municipality that
issued the ticket. Why? Because it includes some of my personal comments and explanations that were
inserted to help my friend better understand the underlying theory. I.e., it wouldnt be enough for him to simply
copy my suggested questionsespecially just a few days before he might be going to court. He had to
understand the rationale behind whichever questions he chose to use. Thus, my explanations and
instructions.

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Civil Disobedience

Similarly, if anyone reads this article and chooses to try some or all of the suggested strategy, its not enough
to simply copy some/all of the questions. Youve got to understand the fundamental rationale behind
each question because, if you have to go to court, you may be called upon to explain which questions youve
presented. If you cant explain the rationale for the questions youve presented, theres a good chance that your
questions will be ignored.

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collectivism
Collectivist

Of course, the fundamental objective behind these kind of questions is to present some questions very soon

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after the traffic ticket is issued (ideally, within the first days or week). Send the questions by registered mail to

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whomever you believe should have to answer your questions (the officer and/or the municipality)and then wait
for their response.

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If the right of inquiry theory is correct, whenever government sends you a notice, it creates your right of

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inquiry (your right to ask questions about the notice). If you choose to ask such questions, the government has
a correlative duty to answer those questions.

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Procedural due process consists of 1) notice; and 2) opportunity to heard (actually, opportunity to be found
guilty about 98% of the time in an administrative hearing). I believe that if the gov-co doesnt give you sufficient
notice (item #1), they cant lawfully take you to the opportunity to be heard/sentenced without denying your
right to procedural due process. If they deny you procedural due process, the gov-co may lose standing to
prosecute based on the ticket/notice, and the court may lose jurisdiction over the matter.

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If my theory is correct, the traffic-ticket/notice is not complete or sufficient until the gov-co has answered all of

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your relevant questions. If you dont ask any questions (and almost no one does), the original traffic-ticket is

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presumed to have supplied you with sufficient notice and the process can proceed to the opportunity to be
heardwhere youll be found guilty about 98% of the time. But if you dare to ask relevant questions in
response to the traffic-ticket, that notice will not be complete or sufficient until all of your questions are
answered.

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If you are astute and knowledgeable you may be able to ask questions that are so insightful or even

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embarrassing for the gov-co that they cant or wont answer them. Its my contention that if they wont answer

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all of your questions, they are depriving you of sufficient notice and thereby depriving you of procedural due
process.

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If you can create and introduce evidence (registered mail) that you posed your questions and they were not
answered in full, then I believe you may be able to get your traffic ticket dismissed for a denial of procedural due
process.

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Of course, its entirely possible that the municipality will still find you guilty at the trial court level and you may
be forced to appeal to a higher court before they recognize your procedural due process argument. You have to
be prepared for that possibility.

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Deficit Spending
Definitions

Theres never a guarantee that a theory of the sort Im proposing will work ever or even mostly. Nevertheless,
Im about 90% confident that the right of inquiry theory is fundamentally valid.
Note also that virtually all of my questions are designed to elicit a Yes or No answer. I try to avoid multipleguess or essay-type answers. By keeping the answers as simple as possible, I try to eliminate any opportunity
for the government to claim they dont understand my questions.

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However, I suspect that it might not be a bad idea to add a third Dont Understand option to my Yes or No
answers. If they claim to not understand my questions, thats fine with me. They still havent answered my
questions, and so long as thats true, I have not yet received procedural due process and the court should not
be able to proceed against me.
Heres a copy of the first part of the Traffic Ticket/notice issued to my friend. Its followed by the text of my

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suggested questions (and explanations). Further on in my text Im also supplying a copy of the second part of

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the Traffic Ticket/notice.

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If you doubt that this traffic ticket is a notice, read the entire ticket closely and youll see several instances
where the ticket refers to itself as a notice.

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Traffic Ticket/Notice
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Dear sirs,

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I received your Notice number TX3X3C0PMB56 (hereafter, Notice) dated November 27, 2013.

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I have several questions based on your Notice:

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RIGHT OF INQUIRY

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1. Do you understand that procedural due process includes 1) notice and 2) opportunity to be heard? Yes ___
No ___

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2. Do you understand that if you deprive me of sufficient notice, you will have deprived me of procedural due

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process in this matter? Yes ___ No ___

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3. Do you understand that if you deprive me of procedural due process, you will have lost your right to take me

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to the opportunity to be heard? Yes ___ No ___

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4. Do you understand that if you deprive me of procedural due process, the court will have lost jurisdiction in
this matter? Yes ___ No ___
5. Do you understand that your Notice creates my right of inquiry? Yes ___ No ___
6. Do you understand that my right of inquiry creates your duty to answer my questions? Yes ___ No ___

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Conglomerate

Explanation: Questions 1 through 6 are based on my understanding that procedural due process consists of

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1) notice; and 2) the opportunity to be heard.

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Its my belief that the opportunity to be heard is actually an opportunity to be sentenced. That opportunity
may be an administrative hearing but its not a judicial trial. At such hearings, defendants (especially those who
appear without an attorney) have about a 98% probability of being found guilty.
Such opportunities are somewhat like playing Russian Roulette with a gun that has five bullets in the six

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chambers. Therefore, I dont want the opportunity to be heard because the odds lopsidedly favor my adversary
and disfavor me.

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I believe that the opportunity to be heard can be avoided by controlling the notice. I.e., they cant take you to
the opportunity until after theyve first given you sufficient notice. Its not enough that they send a notice;
they must send enough notice(s) to be sufficient in the recipients opinion.

Homosexuality
Humor
Hunger

For some people, a very brief notice is all it takes to communicate sufficient knowledge of the relevant facts and
law. Once the recipient has, or is presumed to have, sufficient knowledge of the relevant facts and law, he can
be taken to the opportunity to be heard/sentenced.

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Identification
Illegal Aliens

But for other recipients, the original notice may be somewhat incomprehensible. Therefore, such recipients will
need a more in-depth explanation if the relevant facts and law before they can decide how to properly respond to

Immorality
Immunity

the notice.

In Personam Jurisdiction
Thus, the original notice creates a right of inquiry for the notice recipient. I.e., if someone receives a notice, he
is thereby entitled to pose questions about that notice to the person who sent the notice. Further, the
recipients right of inquiry (right to ask questions) creates the notice-senders correlative duty to answer those
questions.

Income inequality
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Independence

Under this hypothesis, if a notice-recipient can pose questions which are sufficiently insightful or illuminating,

Indictment

the notice-sender may be unable or even unwilling to answer on a public record. If they dont, cant or wont

Inflation/Deflation

answer, I believe the notice recipient has been denied procedural due process and the case against the
recipient is at least impaired and possibly terminated.

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International Law

If my theory is correct, the right of inquiry created by a notice is a powerful right. Nevertheless, that right is
virtually unknown to most people and largely ignored.

Internet
Investment

In fact, the gov-co and associated fascists normally get around the right of inquiry with a pair of presumptions:
1) If the recipient receives a notice and responds with statements to the notice sender, its presumed that hes
received sufficient notice. I.e., only an imprudent man would make statements without sufficient knowledge of
the issue at hand.

IRS
Israel
Jurisdiction

2) If the recipient receives a notice and does not respond (goes silent), its presumed that hes received

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sufficient notice. I.e., only a man with sufficient knowledge of the issue at hand would fail to expressly respond
to a notice. The recipients silence creates the presumption that the recipient has essentially confessed to
the validity of whatever facts, law and claims were asserted or implied in the original notice.

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Legal & Equitable Titles
Legal fictions

Therefore, if the gov-co sends you a notice and you reply that, Youre all a bunch of communist-Satanists
destined to burn in HELL!!!!!, the gov-co will thank you very much for having made a statement in response to

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their notice and merrily schedule you for your opportunity to be heard where you will found guilty 98% of the

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time.

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Likewise, if you receive a notice (traffic ticket) and ignore it and therefore respond with silence, the gov-co will
thank you very much, presume from your silence that youve had sufficient notice, and take to the opportunity
to be heard where youll be found guilty about 98% of the time.

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liquidity / illiquidity
Manipulated Markets

So far as I can tell, the proper and most effective way to respond to any notice is by asking questions

Maritime Admiralty

(exercising your right of inquiry). Most notices Ive seen include a statement at the bottom of the form telling

Mark of the Beast

you that If you have any questions, please call 1-800-555-1111. The notice sender thereby admits your right of
inquiry, but encourages you to pose your questions over the phone.

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Marriage/Divorce

Why over the phone?

Martial Law

First, because they have professional con-artists on their end of the phone who can probably deceive you into

Middle East

accepting the notice as sufficient. Once you concede that youve had enough notice, they can take you to

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the opportunity to be heard/sentenced.


Second, because the telephone call will not generate any evidence thats admissible in court. If there is
admissible evidence, it will probably be the notes (if any) kept by the gov-co employee who answered your
phone call.

Money
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Moral Hazard
Morality

Thats why I prefer to avoid the convenience of telephone inquiries and pose my questions in writing by means
of Registered Mail. When such questions are sent as Registered Mail, they constitute admissible evidence.
Weve heard reports that the gov-co is no longer accepting Registered or even Certified Mail. If you send a
package by Registered or Certified mail, the government will refuse to accept it and send it back to you.
Good. Great. Suits me fine.

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Good. Great. Suits me fine.


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My understanding of Certified and Registered mail is that its presumed to be received by the gov-co at the
moment its deposited into the mail. That understanding may or may not be correct.

Natural Law
Nature

However, if I deposit an item of Registered Mail into the Post Office, and get a receipt and a tracking number, Ill
be able to follow that package over the internet all the way to its intended recipient. If the intended recipient

Negative interest rates

rejects my Registered Mail (and the questions within), I will have admissible evidence that the recipient of my

Neo-conservatives

questions (the original notice sender) has refused to answer my questions, denied me my right of inquiry, and

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Government

thereby deprived me of procedural due process. If Im sufficiently adept at arguing that violation of
procedural due process at court, the case against me may be dismissed.

North American Union

Given the recent reports of government refusing to accept Certified and Registered mail, it occurs to me that I

Notice

might be wise to include a statement on the exterior of the envelope that says something like, CONTENTS

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AND RELEVANT RIGHTS: This Registered Mail item # ___________ includes questions posed as an exercise
of my right of inquiry created by the Department of Public Safetys original Notice # _______ dated ________

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and sent to me. A denial of my right of inquiry may constitute a deprivation of my right to procedural due

Oath

process and thereby cause the underlying case to be dismissed and/or cause the court to lose jurisdiction over
the relevant matter.

Obama
Oil

Im just spit-ballin there. You might dream up a better description of your Registered Mails contents to include
on the face of your envelope.
The object of providing a brief description of the Contents on the face of the Registered Mail envelope
containing my questions is to make it abundantly clear to whoever receives and then rejects my Registered
Mail, that doing so may constitute a deprivation of my right to procedural due process.

Organic Law
Patriot
Pensions
People
Person

So, if I drafted such envelope and scanned an image of that envelope into my computer before I deposited the
envelope into the mail, then Id have more graphic evidence to prove that the gov-co had deprived me of
procedural due process and (perhaps) forfeited their right to continue to prosecute the case.

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Pledges

(Im all about creating admissible evidence.)

Plutocrats

Note that all six of my first questions begin with Do you understand . . . . I try not to ask questions like Is the

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earth round? or What is the square root of -1? which implicate knowledge that the person answering my

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questions may or may not have. I try to ask do you understand because everyone knows (or at least believes)
that they do or do not understand any particular subject.

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Political Action

Note that I also provide for Yes ___ or No ___ replies.


Thus, I can ask a 5-year old child, Do you understand calculus? Yes ___ No ___ and even the child should be
able to answer. I.e., even a child knows whether he does or does not understand calculus.

Political Campaign
Contributions
Political Choice
Political Free Speech

Similarly, even a gov-co clerk should know whether he does or does not understand questions about procedural
due process. Yes or No? Its easy. One or the other. I do understand; I do not understand.

Population
Poverty

I dont offer questions that require a long, written response. I wouldnt refuse a long written response, but I try to
make my questions as simple as possible for the person who reads them.

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Presumptions

More, I dont care how the recipient answers most of my questions. Say, Yes. Say, No. Its pretty much the
same to me because I am using these questions to fill gaps in my own knowledge. Im using these questions
discover information that may be useful in my defense.

Privacy
Private Law
Privileges

For example, if I ask:


5. Do you understand that your Notice creates my right of inquiry? Yes ___ No ___
If the clerk answers Yes, hes just validated my right of inquiry. If the clerk answers No (and if I can prove that
I, in fact, have a right of inquiry), the clerk will have just proved that he is incompetent to answer my questions.
If hes incompetent to answer my questions, then some, many, most or even all of other questions are arguably

Promise-based monetary
system
Promises
Propaganda
psychological warfare

answered by an incompetent and I should not be bound by the answers of someone who is incompetent to

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answer my questions.

Public schools

I cannot be expected to have received sufficient notice from a clerk that doesnt understand the subject

Quantitative Easing

matter. If he admits his ignorance, I will argue my right to have my questions considered by one of his

Questions

superiors or an attorney in order to assure that the answers I receive are true. If the clerk admits that he
doesnt understand the subject matter, hes created evidence that I have not received sufficient notice and have
therefore been deprived of procedural due process.
In other words, Im probably fairly capable of receiving lemons (notices) and then using them to make lemonade.

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In other words, Im probably fairly capable of receiving lemons (notices) and then using them to make lemonade.

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VENUE

Resistance

My next string of questions deal with plane and venue. I know that the proper name for the State of the

RICO

Union where Im domiciled is The State of Texas. I subscribe to the hypothesis that, in law, the words

Rights

Texas, STATE OF TEXAS, and TX are not synonymous with The State of Texas and therefore signify some
sort of administrative state and/or territory which is not the State of the Union whose proper name is The
State of Texas.

Robots
Russia

Within these alternative states/territories, administrative process appears to be the rule. Within the States of

Savings

the Union, judicial process is the rule. Determining whichever venue controls the case at hand will determine

Science

who (if anyone) has authority to prosecute the case, and whether the defendant has a multitude or rights or can

Secrecy

be treated as an abject subject with almost no rights.


So, Im essentially asking where did all of the events alleged in the traffic ticket/notice take placein a
territory or within a State of the Union?
If the hypothesis that STATE OF TEXAS is not The State of Texas is true, then the gov-co cant make that

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Commission
Sheriff
Short Selling

admission without destroying their system. Why? Because their apparent system is based on a series of

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unstated presumptions (i.e., if you make statements, youre presumed to have received sufficient notice). If

Slavery & bondage

those presumptions can be identified and refuted, the gov-cos system may collapse.

Social Security

One of the biggest and most mistaken presumptions (among the people) is that STATE OF TEXAS and The

Sovereignty

State of Texas both signify the State of the Union. Therefore, the people walk into a court of STATE OF

Special Interest Legislation

TEXAS expecting to enjoy the same rights that would be available in a court of The State of Texas. I believe
that expectation is a false and dangerous presumption. I believe that STATE OF TEXAS is not required to

Speculation

recognize the rights you would enjoy within The State of Texas. In STATE OF TEXAS your chances of being

Spies

convicted for an offense may be 98% while your chances of being convicted within a court of The State of
Texas on the same evidence might be less than 10%.

Spiritual War
spiritual warfare

Whether you will be found guilty or not guilty in a particular proceeding will depend in large measure on the
venue in which the case is presumed to have occurred. Insofar as you can control the venue, you may be able

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to dramatically reduce the probability of being convicted of an offense.

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Therefore, if I can hone my questions so as to eliminate all ambiguity about the venue, I believe I can put the
gov-co in a position where they cant truthfully answer my questions. If Im denied truthful answers, Im denied
sufficient notice and am thus deprived of procedural due processand the case should be dismissed.
But, if the hypothesis concerning STATE OF TEXAS vs The State of Texas is valid, I dont care if they gov-co

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tells me the truth (the venue is territorial) or lies (the venue is within The State of Texas). If they tell me the

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truth (the STATE OF TEXAS venue is territorial), I can argue that Im one of the people of The State of Texas

Summons

and not subject to the jurisdiction of STATE OF TEXAS. If they lie and declare that the events all transpired
within the State of the Union whose proper name is The State of Texas, thats great for me because it

Surety

absolutely opens the door to making a defense based on the rights found the The Constitution of The State

Surveillance

of Texas.

Tariffs

I dont care what their answer is. I only care that the ambiguity between the territory and the State of the Union

Technology

be openly faced and, ideally, eliminated. Why? Because its the ambiguity that gives rise to the false

Territory

presumptions and its the false presumptions that give rise to most convictions.
In other words, maybe youre within the borders of The State of Texas or maybe youre in the territory called
STATE OF TEXAS. These two possibilities create an ambiguity. You may silently presume that youre acting
within The State of Texas but if you dont expressly introduce evidence to establish that fact on the record, the
judge can silently presume that youre actually acting in STATE OF TEXAS. The judges silent presumption
will overrule your silent presumption and you may be much amazed to find yourself without any of the rights you
assumed youd have within The State of Texas.

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The Organic Law of The
United States of America
The United States of
America
Title
Traffic Law

My objective in many of my questions is to confront (and perhaps eliminate) the ambiguities that give rise to
gov-cos silent presumptions that are hazardous to your health.
Heres some of my questions relating to what I believe are ambiguities about venue:

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Treaties
Trump
Trusts

7. Do you understand that under the Act of March 30th , A.D. 1870, at Session II of the Forty-First Congress of
The United States of America at Ch. XXXIX, The State of Texas was readmitted to representation in Congress
as one of the States of the perpetual Union styled The United States of America? Yes ___ No ___

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8. Do you understand that under the Act of March 30th , A.D. 1870, at Session II of the Forty-First Congress of
The United States of America at Ch. XXXIX, the proper name for the member-State of the perpetual Union styled

UFOs

The United States of America that is sometimes referred to as Texas is The State of Texas? Yes ___ No

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___

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9. Do you understand that as per the Acts of A.D. 1965, 59th Legislature of The State of Texas, vol. 2, ch. 722,

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amended by Acts of A.D. 1981, 67th Legislature of The State of Texas, ch. 291, Sect. 97, the style of all writs

United States

and criminal process shall be The State of Texas and all prosecutions shall be carried on in the name and by
authority of The State of Texas and conclude against the peace and dignity of the State.? Yes ___ No ___

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US Dollar

10. Do you understand that as per Article 1.23 of the current Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, Rule 15 of the
Texas Rules of Civil Procedure, and Article IV, Sect. XV of The Constitution of The State of Texas of A.D. 1869,

US vs USA

and Article V Section 12 of The Constitution of The State of Texas of A.D. 1876, the style of all writs and

USPS

criminal process shall be The State of Texas. Yes ___ No ___

Values

11. Do you understand that as per Article 1.23 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, Rule 15 of the Texas

Venue

Rules of Civil Procedure, and Article IV, Sect. XV of The Constitution of The State of Texas of A.D. 1869, and

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Article V Section 12 of The Constitution of The State of Texas of A.D. 1876, all prosecutions shall be carried on

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in the name and by authority of The State of Texas and conclude against the peace and dignity of the
State.? Yes ___ No ___

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Welfare

12. Is your Notice in this matter a writ or criminal process of The State of Texas? Yes ___ No ___
13. Is your Notice in this matter a civil process of The State of Texas? Yes ___ No ___
14. Does your Notice reference The State of Texas? Yes ___ No ___

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Here, youll begin to see questions that involve territory of the United States, states of the United States on
the one hand, and States of the Union and/or State of The United States of America.

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The confederation and perpetual Union styled The United States of America was created or constituted by
Articles of Confederation of A.D. 1781. The United States was created or constituted by The Constitution of
the United States first ratified by the People in A.D. 1788.

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The United States of America is not the United States. If you read and compare the Articles of Confederation
and the Constitution of the United States, youll see that the Articles of Confederation makes is no proviso for

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any federal districts (like Washington DC) or territories. The United States of America consists only of the

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States of the Union.

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The territories (like Guam, US Virgin Islands, TX, OK any NY) and the District of Columbia are only provided for

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under the Constitution of the United States. I cant yet prove it, but I believe that the territories and Washington

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DC are all in the United States but cant be within The United States of America.
The following questions begin to explore that belief.
My questions will frequently seem repetitious and overly legalistic. But theyre intended to nail down some

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fundamental possibilities about venue as precisely as possible and thereby establish, exactly, whichever

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venue is controlling in this matter. I have every right to know the exact venue of every aspect of this case. I

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dont believe that any court will expressly deny my right to know the venue and risk having me make an appeal
to a higher court based on that denial. If I were to take the issue of my right to know the precise venue of my

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alleged offense, cop, court and judge to an appellate court and that court agreed with my right, the whole

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system might have to always clearly specify the venue. If that requirement were imposed, the whole system

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might lose one of its basic silent presumptions and thereby collapse. Rather than risk collapsing the system
by answering my questions about venue, I suspect that the system would prefer to dismiss or otherwise make

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its case against me disappear.

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My questions are repetitious in that they ask about the venue of the place where the offense occurred, about the

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district where the officer is empowered to act, about the venue of the court and even of the judge. They are

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repetitious because the answers had better all be consistent. If the offense is alleged to have taken place in a

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territory like TX, but the court is located within a State of the Union, that contradiction will create a serious
issue to be argued at court.

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And what if the venue in which the judge acts is actually in the territory of STATE OF TEXAS but the judge or
an agent for the judge lies and claims the court and/or the judge are acting within The State of Texas? Does a

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judge acting within The State of Texas enjoy the same immunities and powers as a judge acting in STATE

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OF TEXAS?

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If not, will a judge or court expose himself/itself to greater liability if it claims to be acting within The State of

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Texas? If, to protect itself and maintain its territorial immunities, a court admitted to acting in STATE OF

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TEXAS, would the court thereby lose authority over a defendant who effectively argued that he and all of his
acts took place within The State of Texas?

January 2013
December 2012

I understand that these questions can seem confusing and even tiresome. But I believe that if you can master
and become comfortable with the tactic of using questions to eliminate ambiguities (and therefore eliminate

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silent presumptions) that it may be possible to defeat a lot of the prosecutions waged by the current state and

October 2012

local gov-cos.

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More, I believe that by making the effort to pose a series of tiresome but very precise questions, you can

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educate yourself to the intricacies of your own argument. In other words, by studying each proposed question

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and learning to recognize the subtle distinctions between one question and another seemingly similar question,

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you will educate yourself in a way that may make you a more formidable litigant if youre forced to go to court.
More venue questions follow:

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15. Is the Location for the alleged offense (IH-0035 MP-358 in HILL Co. (31.8852060, -97.0845400)) specified
on your Notice located on the soil within the borders of The State of Texasa member-State of the
perpetual Union styled The United States of America? Yes ___ No ___

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December 2011
November 2011

16. Is the Location for the alleged offense (IH-0035 MP-358 in HILL Co. (31.8852060, -97.0845400)) specified
on your Notice located on the soil within the borders of a territory of the United States? Yes ___ No ___

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September 2011

17. Is the Location for the alleged offense (IH-0035 MP-358 in HILL Co. (31.8852060, -97.0845400)) specified
on your Notice located on the soil within the borders of a state of the United States? Yes ___ No ___
18. Do you understand that your Notice was issued by 12815 OWENS, C. Region 6 District A Area:02?
Yes ___ No ___

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20. Is said OWENS, C.the issuer of your Noticea peace officer of The State of Texasa member-

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State of the perpetual Union styled The United States of America? Yes ___ No ___

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21. Is the Region 6 District A Area:02 associated with OWENS, C. located within the borders of The State

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of Texasa member-State of the perpetual Union styled The United States of America? Yes ___ No

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22. Is the Region 6 District A Area:02 associated with OWENS, C. located within the borders of a territory

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of the United States? Yes ___ No ___

October 2010

23. Is the Region 6 District A Area:02 associated with OWENS, C. located within the borders of a state of

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the United States? Yes ___ No ___

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24. Is the HON. JOHN MILBURN (the judge scheduled to hear this matter) a peace officer of The State of
Texasa member-State of the perpetual Union styled The United States of America? Yes ___ No ___
25. Is the Court: JP Pct & Place 21 Phone (254-582-4025) P.O. Box 316, HILLSBORO 76645 scheduled to

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hear this matter located within the borders of The State of Texasa member-State of the perpetual Union

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styled The United States of America? Yes ___ No ___

March 2010

26. Is the Court: JP Pct & Place 21 Phone (254-582-4025) P.O. Box 316, HILLSBORO 76645 scheduled to
hear this matter located within the borders of a territory of the United States? Yes ___ No ___
27. Is the Court: JP Pct & Place 21 Phone (254-582-4025) P.O. Box 316, HILLSBORO 76645 scheduled to
hear this matter located within the borders of a state of the United States? Yes ___ No ___

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September 2009

IDENTIFICATION OF THE SOURCE OF THE ORIGINAL NOTICE


One of the most important objects of the Notice and Right of Inquiry process is to properly identify the source of

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whatever notice youve received. The reason is that only the person or entity that issued the notice you received

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is liable to answer your questions. Their notice created your right of inquiry and their correlative duty to

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answer your questions. Your notice from one entity does not create your right of inquiry in relation to some
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In the matter of the traffic ticket that laid the foundation for this series of questions, that ticket/notice was issued
by Texas Department of Public Safety and/or its officer/agent OWENS, C.
But who actually issued the notice and who is responsible to answer my questions? The Department itself, or
its agent OWENS, C.?

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I dont know. Therefore, Id be inclined to send my list of questions to both Texas Department of Public Safety

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and also to OWENS, C.. I might address my questions to OWENS, C. c/o the Texas Department of Public

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Safety.

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I doubt that I can legally send my questions to the judge, but I might be able to send a copy of my questions to
the court clerkbut probably not.
Id be inclined to send as many copies of my questions to as many persons/entities who might be responsible

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for answering my questions as I can reasonably suppose. Even if some of my sets of questions were
addressed to persons who were not responsible to answer, a multitude of my sets of questions would be
evidence in itself of my attempt to exercise my right of inquiry.
I might address each set of questions to a particular person or entity and add or to whomever this concerns or

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28. Is the Texas Department of Public Safety the authority that issued the Notice? Yes ___ No ___
29. Is the Texas Department of Public Safety an agency of The State of Texasa member-State of the
perpetual Union styled The United States of America? Yes ___ No ___

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ABOUT THE NOTICE ITSELF:


30. Do you understand that your Notice included a paragraph under the heading IMPORTANT MESSAGE?
Yes ___ No ___
31. Do you understand that the paragraph under the heading IMPORTANT MESSAGE includes the word
Texas on two occasions? Yes ___ No ___
32. Do both of the two uses of the word Texas used in the paragraph under the heading IMPORTANT
MESSAGE signify The State of Texasa member-State of the perpetual Union styled The United States
of America? Yes ___ No ___
33. Do both of the two uses of the word Texas used in the paragraph under the heading IMPORTANT
MESSAGE signify a territory of the United States? Yes ___ No ___
34. Do both of the two uses of the word Texas used in the paragraph under the heading IMPORTANT
MESSAGE signify a state of the United States? Yes ___ No ___

The traffic ticket/notice included a section entitle POTENTIAL SURCHARGE NOTICE. Heres a copy of that
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35. Do you understand that your Notice uses the term this state twice in the paragraph under the heading
POTENTIAL SURCHARGE NOTICE:? Yes ___ No ___
36. In the two instances where the term this state is used in your Notice under the heading of POTENTIAL
SURCHARGE NOTICE: does the term this state signify The State of Texasa member-State of the
perpetual Union styled The United States of America? Yes ___ No ___
37. In the two instances where the term this state is used in your Notice under the heading of POTENTIAL
SURCHARGE NOTICE: does the term this state signify a territory of the United States? Yes ___ No ___

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38. In the two instances where the term this state is used in your Notice under the heading of POTENTIAL
SURCHARGE NOTICE: does the term this state signify a state of the United States? Yes ___ No ___

ABOUT THE NOTICE RECIPIENTS STATUS


These next questions are intended to discover how the author of the original ticket/notice views the purported
defendant (notice recipient). My object, here, is to create a box that compels the gov-co to expressly admit or
deny that the defendant is a man or woman made in Gods image (as per Genesis 1:26-28) and endowed by his
Creator with certain unalienable Rights (as per the Declaration of Independence).
If the gov-co is willing to admit that Im a man made in Gods image and endowed by my Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, Im good to go. Being recognized in that status may not guarantee that Ill win in court, but
in that capacity Ill give em a real run for their money.
On the other hand, if gov-co denies that Im a man made in Gods image (as per Genesis 1:26-28) and endowed
by my Creator with certain unalienable Rights (as per the Declaration of Independence), the gov-co will have to
do some very fancy steppin in front of a jury who will ultimately be every bit as curious about the gov-cos need
to degrade my status (and that of the jury) as I am.
I.e., why wont gov-co recognize me as a man made in Gods image? Dont we still have freedom of religion?
Why wont gov-co recognize the unalienable Rights declared in the Declaration of Independence?
And, on the third hand, if gov-co simply doesnt answer my questions about the status in which they presume
me to act, they will have thereby denied my right to procedural process. Again, that denial may be enough to
cause the case to be dismissed.

39. Do you understand that, as per Genesis 1:26-28, I am a man made in Gods image? Yes ___ No ___
40. Do you understand that, as per The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America of July
4th , A.D. 1776 (also known as the Declaration of Independence), I am endowed by my Creator with certain
unalienable Rights? Yes ___ No ___

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41. Do you understand that the name DOE, JOHN DAVID is merely an alias for my proper name John Doe?
Yes ___ No ___
42. Do you understand that I am one of people of The State of Texas? Yes ___ No ___
43. Do you understand that I am a beneficiary of the express charitable trust entitled The Constitution of The
State of Texas established in A.D. 1876? Yes ___ No ___

ADMINISTRATIVE LAW

44. Do you understand that as a beneficiary of the express charitable trust entitled The Constitution of The
State of Texas established in A.D. 1876, I have the right to the division of powers as found in Article II of said
Constitution? Yes ___ No ___
45. Do you understand that under administrative law, the three fundamental powers of government (legislative,
executive and judicial) are combined under a single authority and without division of powers as mandated in
Article II of The Constitution of The State of Texas established in A.D. 1876? Yes ___ No ___
46. Do you understand that I have the right to refuse to consent to being subject to administrative process?
Yes ___ No ___
47. Do you understand that I have the right to demand process for this matter take place in a judicial court
established under Article V of The Constitution of The State of Texas established in A.D. 1876? Yes ___ No
___
48. Do you understand that I do not consent to being subject to administrative process? Yes ___ No ___

Thanks for your consideration and answers.

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thomas russo
January 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

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Cute but this does not work. The alleged court is not and Article III court, there are no Article III courts,
even though set up there is NO Judiciary, no matter what one might think. These so called courts are
ALL administrative courts set up by congress and they are nothing but delegates. To get a better picture
of this read Volume 1 of the United States Code which is inclusive of Titles 1-4 and Title 5 sections 1015949, paying close attention to Titles 1-4 to dates of entry as well as language this is the Law known as
the Organic Laws while Title 5 is for employees. The whole of the assumption is that one is an
employee/subject to the Revised Codes, when in fact only the cop is and the lawyers (attorneys) which
are all foreign agents and agencies of the United States that is the Constitution of the United States
not the Constitution for the United States, there are two Unions the first is in the Articles of
Confederation in Title 2 of Titles 1-4 the second is in Title 4 of Titles 1-4. The drivers license has two so
called persons on it one is the fiction the other is the real man and they are addressing the fiction while
the real man is speaking for the fiction which only and attorney can re-present a fiction of law a real man
can not. What should have been done gets some what complex and one should become familure with
ones states Original Constitution, while Texas is both a Republic and a Corporate structure known as a
STATE one must not be a United States citizen or Citizen of the United States but a free inhabitant under
Article IV of the Articles of Confederation at Title 2 in Titles 1-4, there is much to understand all of this so
read, when one walks into their courts you wave your rights, pay attention to the flags and more.
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J.M.
January 20, 2014 at 10:25 PM

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thomas russo,
Re: the Constitution of the United States not the Constitution for the United States
In the earliest cases I have been able to find, when the Final Court writes about the 1789

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Constitution, it is written in their own words,The Constitution of the United States, this is to say
WHEN it is ever brought up,talked about,written about,etc. I do know that the word for, IS in the
Preamble so if the word for v. of means two entirely different things, the earliest Supreme Court, the
final Court uses the term, of the United States. Seems to me, that final court did not see any
difference in, of v. for. What is it Im not grasping since that top court was an article 3 court?
Hey everyone, tomorrow is another day for mountain man Ernie to show his stuff. Dont
misunderstand. I like him.Yes indeed. I have concluded it could go either way. Maybe too much
publicity will persuade the tyrants to just dismiss it. On the other hand, they might use the publicity to
show what is in store for anyone else who rocks the boat. He spent some time in jail from what I
understand & at this point I kinda feel they will give him time served with a stern warning they want
the rest of their Subjects to understand,i.e. what We the Subjects have awaiting if We the Subjects
rock the boat. Also, maybe something has already happened, a night court secret hearing,etc.
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Joe L'Amarca
January 21, 2014 at 12:39 AM

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Mr. Russo !
Compare the eleventh amendment with article 3 section 2 .of the articles of confedaration , from the
11th to the 27 th amendment istead of congress drafting a legitimat document they screwed up
there is a big conflict there and by the way it was rejected the first time in 1789 because of the
conflict and it is still in conflict today .
I cant find someone whom will expose the fraud in all the amendmet propcess .
That day is near when the global population will go hungry they will awaken then .
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Robert Clay; Snnyder
January 21, 2014 at 12:42 AM

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Mr. Russo, I have a close friend that addressed the flags in the courtroom in Ellensburg,
Washington. The judge immediately ordered him jailed for 48 hours.
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J.M.
January 21, 2014 at 12:58 PM

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@ > The judge immediately ordered him jailed for 48 hours.
Hello Robert Clay; Snyder,

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These things DO happen. If some of us could only see it as being in their home, we could
possibly understand why this happens. For example if I should be invited to visit someone in
their home & I saw something in their home that was repulsive, I could always make an excuse
to leave & just leave.without being insulting to the home owner as to the real reason why I
wanted to leave BUT, when we enter gov-co homes & start insulting their decorations it
should not be any surprise at all what happens next for doing that. If I was in your home & did not
like something you had in there, & let you know I didnt like it, which if I did such a thing it would
be rude, crude inconsiderate etc, you could very well throw me out & rightly so. When we are in
gov-co homes, and do the same thing, well, they dont throw us out, they throw us
IN..Jail. For all who are going to appear in their homes, you better respect their
decorations by, if nothing else, not commenting about them. You are in THEIR HOME.

Frank Moorman
January 20, 2014 at 10:59 AM

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Why dont you address Surcharges? I owe over 10 grand in Surcharges assessed against code
enforcement violations
Frank Moorman
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Adask

January 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

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My friend wasnt facing any surcharge issues. He was only facing a $150 fine. Time was short and
the surcharge issue was not relevant to my friends problem.
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Frank Moorman
January 20, 2014 at 11:20 AM

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I am now awaiting to victimized by the scoffing laws They will get you for these too-called revenue. They
build new and bigger jails with DHS grant money. DHS trains your local cops every Thursday. DHS also
controls their radios . If you go to FCC website, you will see that it is no DHS FCC.
No, we dont live in a poe leece state.
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J.M.
January 22, 2014 at 11:38 AM

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Hi Frank Moorman,
What is the last word in, police?
@ No, we dont live in a poe leece state.
YEAH RIGHT !!
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Applessence
January 20, 2014 at 11:21 AM

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Alfred, (NOT ALFRED ; ) ), My experience in sending inquiries like this is, that while it seems satisfying
enough for me, it is tantamount to trying to get the cop to realize that his jurisdiction does not include
me, as codes only apply to individuals, partnerships..or other corporate entities, and according to
the principle of ejusdem generis for statutory construction, everything within a line or paragraph MUST
be the same kind of thing; cant mix apples and oranges.
I have sent a dozen or so such letters of inquiry, always return-receipt, and the traffic Commissioner has
never responded to a single one. Ever. I have had 3 Notices to Appear, and have never shown up, but
just send a letter denying jurisdiction, based on whom the codes apply to. I returned the license and
registrations 2 years ago. When they give me a ticket, it is signed at arms length: NO CONTRACT.
Cops go ballistic, but it is pretty easy: I ask the cop Have you ever seen my signature? Of course, they
havent, so then I ask How the hell do know thats NOT my signature? Usually ends there. I then write
returned for discharge in red ink, and send it with a letter of inquiry directly to the traffic commissioner.
So, if at the end ( as in ALL of STSTE OF CALIFORNIA codes definitions of person, the one to whom
the code applies) it states in the definition or other corporate entities, that clearly defines who the
person is that code applies to. If I am NOT a corporate entity (and I am not) their codes do not apply to
me, they apply elsewhere.
CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE, SECTIONS 12500V C Section 12500 Unlawful to Drive Unless Licensed
Unlawful to Drive Unless Licensed
12500. (a) A person may not drive a motor vehicle upon a highway, unless the person then holds a valid
drivers license issued under this code, except those persons who are expressly exempted under this
code
Amended Sec. 3, Ch. 755, Stats. 2004. Effective January 1, 2005.
Amended Sec. 3, Ch. 630, Stats. 2007. Effective January 1, 2008.
DEFINITION OF PERSON IN CALIFORNIA LAW:

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CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE


SECTION 630-637.9
632(b). The term person includes an individual, business association, partnership, corporation,
limited liability company, or other legal entity,
CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE
11405.70. Person includes an individual, partnership, corporation, governmental subdivision or unit of
a governmental subdivision, or public or private organization or entity of any character.
CALIFORNIA CIVIL CODE
SECTION 3479-3484
3482.1. (a) As used in this section:
(1) Person means an individual, proprietorship, partnership, corporation, club, or other legal entity.
CALIFORNIA CODE OF CIVIL PROCEDURE
SECTION 1235.110-1235.210
1235.160. Person includes any public entity, individual, association, organization, partnership, trust,
limited liability company, or corporation.
CALIFORNIA EVIDENCE CODE
175. Person includes a natural person, firm, association, organization, partnership, business trust,
corporation, limited liability company, or public entity.
CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE
470. Person includes a natural person, firm, copartnership, association, limited liability company, or
corporation.
305. A driver is a person who drives or is in actual physical control of a vehicle.
CALIFORNIA PROBATE CODE
56. Person means an individual, corporation, government or governmental subdivision or agency,
business trust, estate, trust, partnership, limited liability company, association, or other entity.
CALIFORNIA COMMERCIAL CODE
(30) Person includes an individual or an organization. (See Section 1102.)
Section K:
TITLE 26 U.S.C., SECTION 7343
IN PART:
Part O: Title 26 U.S.C. Sec. 7343.
Part P: United States Code Congressional and Administrative News
Part Q: Sections derived from other sections.
Part Q(17): Section 7343 is derived from:
Part O:
Title 26 U.S.C. Sec. 7343.
TITLE 26, Subtitle F, CHAPTER 75, Subchapter D, Sec. 7343:

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Sec. 7343. Definition of term person


The term person as used in this chapter includes an officer or employee of a corporation, or a
member or employee of a partnership, who as such officer, employee, or member is under a duty
to perform the act in respect of which the violation occurs.
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Adask

January 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

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You seem to have found another strategy that works well for you. Congrats. Theres more than one
way to skin these cats, but whatever strategy you use, youve got to understand it. You cant just copy
it.
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J.M.

January 20, 2014 at 11:54 PM

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@ You seem to have found another strategy that works
I have seen things posted before like Applessence has posted and when asked if he/she will be
so kind & generous to cut & paste the ticket/citation,e.g like you, Alfred, did & as showing in the
top section of your message (Texas Department of Public Safety) & cut & paste the end result
document, e.g., Dismissed,etc., there is no response whatsoever. Its as though the request
was never received. Is it improper to ask those who post messages such as Applessence did to
post the beginning with document & ending with, winning, etc. document ? If in your opinion it is
not improper,why do you think this kind of request is completely ignored? If there are numerous
documents, one beginning & one ending documents only make two documents. Is my request
unreasonable? I have asked this question also, & got no response to that either.

Mike
January 20, 2014 at 11:42 AM

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Great read Mr. Adask,
I like the way your mind works.
Its fun to play in the legal system but we all know it is just a fiction created by man right? There is no
reality to it other than what we consent to give it. It is a challenge to survive with in the fiction but one day,
if we can ever come together and really support one another, maybe we can rise above the fiction and
really live under Natural law/Gods law.

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How can an entity created by man be superior to man? Nothing created by man can control man unless
man allows for the control. I think claiming our power back as the living man created by God en mass in
the only way out.
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J.M.
January 21, 2014 at 8:48 PM

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@ >Its fun to play in the legal system
Its Tragic comedy if you are serious & if you are, the legal system has been playing hardball with
your mind. I know the legal system has played hardball with mine. It once was fun to play ring
around the rose Z 2.
@ I think claiming our power back as the living man created by God en mass in the only way out.
LIVING MAN > Earnest Wayne Tertelgte thought so too. But, I guess he didnt think his belief had to
be en mass. What do you really think the chances of being en mass are? Really, there is only one
chance, & thats no chance, not the way things are.
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J.M.
January 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM

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@ How can an entity created by man be superior to man?
Easy. But hard to figure out. If we could have a life span of 200 years instead of 70 we would know
the who,what,when,why,where of it. Give me a job, I hire two more, theres 3 of us v. 1 You are really
at our mercy if we 3 handle it right,e.g. how to make the river rise above its source like in an
illusion.
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Jethro!
January 20, 2014 at 12:38 PM

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Al,
Bell v. Burson, 402 U. S. 535 (1971) supports your contention that traffic tickets, or more specifically the
consequences of ignoring or failing to satisfy them (suspension of license), is subject to procedural
due process. From the case:

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licenses are not to be taken away without that procedural due process required by the Fourteenth
Amendment.
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J.M.
January 20, 2014 at 3:23 PM

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@.to answer your questions (the officer and/or the municipality)and then wait for their response.
There is a case where the court said, tyranny in the American system of government very largely is
within the acts & actions of the municipal powers. 1.This tells me that there is tyranny in the American
system of Government. 2. The municipal powers ARE the tyrants we have to reason with.
I PERSONally cant seem to get to the level of knowing how to reason with tyrants. In addition to the
Yes____ No___ there should be added,> Dont know____ I believe all the dont knows will be checked
& concluded with the message of, See ya in court one way or the other,have a nice day.
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J.M.
January 22, 2014 at 1:31 AM

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P.S.
Please do not think I am belittling Alfreds wonderful work. I knew a man who ONCE was a lawyer.
He was honest,etc. He quit that profession I ask him why. He said, there is not any integrity in the
judicial system anymore. One big difference in him & me is, I concluded the same thing after 5 years
of torture. It took him 10 years to arrive at the same conclusion. My ex lawyer friend got a job as a taxi
driver & a few years later,owned the company. Lawyers say good luck quite frequently. Since I still
believe there ARE a few good Judges left, there is no doubt in my mind that if anyone uses Alfreds
example, & you are lucky enough to get a judge with integrity, or even the citation/ticket presenter if
he/she has ANY integrity, you win. Good luck.
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dejure
January 20, 2014 at 5:54 PM

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We started having success when we abandoned the patriot arguments and started using their own
laws against them. Few agencies can comply with their own laws. That includes exhausting
administrative remedies before moving on to a limited jurisdiction court, for example. Supreme Court
rulings state due process begins at the administrative level.

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A local kid (hes about sixty) points out to the court it has no jurisdiction, until the administrative
remedies are exhausted, and that there were yet administrative issued to address. The court cannot
properly make any decision, until proof of the fact, if only by [challengeable] statement from the agency,
is received.
Were I doing it his way, I would form a document similar in appearance to what I would file in a court of
record. It would be a motion on whatever issue I though needed addressing. For example, I might ask
for an administrative hearing on the authority of the agency involved to assign me or to alter (e.g.,
truncate, transpose, capitalize or abbreviate) my Christian and/or family name. I might seek a decision
on implied consent (the presumption you waived an otherwise protected right as a condition of
exercising another right or privilege and so forth).
He didnt fully understand the fact, but he was challenging jurisdiction, which must clearly appear. If
there are administrative issues to be resolved, the inferior court cannot take jurisdiction. In WA (yep, the
one with a federal tax ID number), that could include responses to requests for records made under the
Public Disclosure Act (laws referenced in chapter 42.56 RCW).
We took this approach in a battle with Labor and Industries nearly a decade back. They failed to follow
their own procedures, set out in the Washington Administrative Code, killing their claim they could move
ahead. It took a year, but they lost their claim the individual owed over thirty thousand.
Another time, DOL informed me they were suspending my license. I sought records that allowed them
to waive fees and other statutory requirements associated with acquiring a license, since I didnt have
one. Of course, no documents existed. They sent a communication with the A.G., for help dealing with
me. I still have the youre on your own letter he sent back to the agency. Of course, that matter died on
their vine.
The simple of it is, keep it at the administrative level for as long as possible and resolve issues there.
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Joe L'Amarca
January 21, 2014 at 1:25 AM

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Administrative proceedings are found under three judicial proceedings words and phrases negative
titles and amended proceedings but Common Law is found only in the U S Constitution .
Not in amendment process or case law thats why a lot of donkeys dont understand the U S
CONSTITUTION .
When you claim fifth amendment there is no such a thing so what the criminals in the black robe did
, incootporated 4th and fifth article of the Bill Of Rights and then incorporated it into the fourteenth
amendment .
Now this is me ! I get pulled over and a public official would make certain unlawfull demand upon
me .

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I paid for my registration license and insurance that is my property and they cant take that from me
with a forth article probable cause , probable cause is for you to make the claim under the fifth article
because a castodial stop means you are under arrest , and the State cant make any unlawfull
demands on me . I pay for it all now read the fourth Article Probable Cause Dont squander on any
RIGHTS . after read the Fifth Article and Sixth and Seventh Article Of The Bill Of Rights ????
Now remember the pubic servants are located under the amendment code-fied amendment titles
statued and all the other bullshit .
All I am going to say learn the United States Constitution as good as I and united together we will
Save our LAND AND OUR PEOPLE .
Jesus only had a christian name but it got to hard for the Roman Empire had to many people to
controll so they gave him a second name from nazereth !!! then a second name midle name an
adress s s # cell phone with a chip a micro chip they are going to do the same thing with the terrorist
otherwise they will forget wich branch of the agency pulled the false flag .
PLEASE HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL CLASS EVERY FRIDAY/ANYTIME /ALL THE TIME PLEASE LEARN
THE U S CONSTITUTION ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY AND OUR PLANET . SEND ME AN
EMAIL FOR HELP . CONTACT ME .
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J.M.
January 24, 2014 at 4:21 AM

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@ > All I am going to say learn the United States Constitution as good as I
Thanks for the advice.

dejure
January 24, 2014 at 3:02 PM

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In and out today (I make sawdust Sometimes something, other than firewood comes of it do
a search for Imagination Unincorporated.)
Years ago, before the Internet was flying bit, I was a member of a site for attorneys and judges.
There was one judge and an attorney who were always seemed to be taking pot shots at me
because I promoted going after clients/litigants constitutional rights.
One day, I got fed up with their crap, so started egging them on more than usual about a family
law issue. The attorney made himself the easiest target when he stated he didnt his clients
didnt need him wasting time on that crap.
What the attorney didnt know was, a Supreme Court decision had just come down in which the
justices, plainly, stated attorneys had an obligation to pursue their clients constitutional rights
[when dealing with family matters].

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Interestingly, after I posted the case in response to his stated foolishness, he became one of my
strongest supporters. Oh, and, eventually, everyone pressured the jerk judge of the group off the
site.

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January 20, 2014 at 9:03 PM

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1. who is the injured party?
2. who is the man/woman making a claim against i; a man?
if there is no injured party, then there is no case
there must be a man/woman present to take the stand and point at you and make a claim that their
property was harmed in some way, or any judgement made is void
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dejure
January 21, 2014 at 3:58 AM

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This fits the administrative approach. Someone must be willing to put their neck on the chopping
block for their claim. For example, RCW 9A.72.080 states: Any claim not known to be true is false.
There has to be first hand knowledge and that isnt the prosecutor.
As I said before, put DOL no notice you do not waive your rights and wish to have this fact known on
the record available to officer.
As to a license, use your states disclosure act to determine the laws that prohibit you from taking a
driving test, obtaining a copy of all results and not accepting a license. After all, the process is for the
public safety and youve proven your competence, so
Trust me, this and what I talked of elsewhere will cause a storm
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Bill
January 23, 2014 at 8:17 PM

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To Dejure, Wa. DOL cancelled my Drivers License nearly 1 year ago without my knowledge until

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A police license scanner picked me out at an intersection. DOL claims I need to sumit a
residential address which I dont have. Yet I own and operate 2 business in Washington, pay
taxes, vote
etc., using a pony express mail box. I travel the west coast extensively and don,t have a fixed
residence to sleep other than friends, family and hotels and a estranged wife. DOL supervisor
Insisted they need to know where I sleep, Iam a vagabond.
Want to shut them down and get my license back so I can earn a living, pay taxes to the same
creeps who are without souls. Bill

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January 21, 2014 at 1:23 PM

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Troublemaker,
@ >or any judgement made is void
How do we make void the time we have been in jail? Do you mean that after the jail time is
completed, the judgment is then void because the judgment has been fulfilled? Also, can you tell
me why people make a lot of comments but do not respond to any questions regarding their
comments? Thanks.
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Dejure
January 21, 2014 at 1:35 PM

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First, any time you are under threat of incarceration and cannot afford [incompetent]
representation, you have the right to be appointed counsel. However, you have to make the
demand.
Many say they wouldnt want a public defender. I think theyre great. Their incompetence makes it
easy to stir the pot. For example, a quick search usually shows: 1) The won the bid to represent
all indigents and have a duty to defend them [however]: they have too many clients and cannot
EFFECTIVELY (its that effective assistance of counsel thing); the public record shows they fail
to perform on their contract, instead, pleaing out their clients; they usually meet their clients after
arraignment (at which the attorney is appointed), though the arraignment is considered a critical
stage of the proceedings and at which representation should have been had; reviewing the case
file usually shows they filed no motions (again, did nothing to earn their contact fees qui tam
(taking money for work not performed)); they can be put on notice to build a record for appeal
(e.g., entering objections, introducing and moving into evidence documents and things, and
taking testimony), making discovery (other than the usual crap the prostitutor just hands out),
producing their errors and omissions insurance and so forth.

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I witnessed one attorney refund an entire retainer, after twelve hours work, but during which no
motions, affidavits or discovery (i.e., Request for Admissions, Interrogatories and Requests for
Documents) and things were filed, after receiving such a notice and request for his insurance.

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P.S. I have spent over 500 days in jail & ALL this jail time was due to what you call any void
judgment. I have many void judgments that contributed to my jail time. None of this jail time was
a pretty picture or pictures, all due to void judgments.

dejure
January 24, 2014 at 4:50 PM

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There is a saying in law: Just because something can be undone does not mean it should be
done.
Of course, then there are those things that cannot be undone. As such, they should never be
done. That is why local and state agencies and the state or subdivision itself have insurance,
including risk pools and bonds. It is to compensate people when they cannot, otherwise, be
made whole again.
So it is with time lost. It cannot be given back. At best, the individual can be compensated for it.
Part of the problem getting to the compensation is, dealing with the rules and laws. For example
(again, in WA), to sue a county, you must file a complaint with Risk Management, then wait sixty
days. After that time, you can file the complaint with the court.
An exception to foregoing rule is, the Public Disclosure Act, for violations of the [records]
disclosure laws. An action only requires the usual five business days and is TREATED LIKE
summary judgment action, but is a show cause action. All administrative remedies are
presumed exhausted after five business days.
To be successful claiming the injury out of the court system there would have to be a record
you were injured. This would include challenges to the jurisdiction, objections, indicators you did
not waive a right (which requires overcoming a lot of presumptions, some times) for example.
They should plainly appear on the record.
If one is pro se or pro per, one cannot claim ineffective assistance of counsel. The action
would be against the one who injured you and all else against him would be disciplinary (e.g.,
the Bars work).

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This is another good reason for using a Public Pretender. You may have someone to hold
accountable, since he/she held himself out as knowledgeable in law.
All that said, if a judgement can be shown to be void, and not merely voidable, that would be all
you need to initiate a suit, just like a criminal conviction is enough to initiate a civil action.
If a person wanted to go down that road, it might be worth while to start pulling records that
would prove a pattern of corruption. The Cook District Court was found to be a RICO enterprise,
so, city hall can be fought. It may take some publicity too, though.
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Troublemaker, @ >or any judgement made is void How do we make void the time we have
been in jail? Do you mean that after the jail time is completed, the judgment is then void
because the judgment has been fulfilled? Also, can you tell me why people make a lot of
comments but do []
P.S. I have spent over 500 days in jail & ALL this jail time was due to what you call any void
judgment. I have many void judgments that contributed to my jail time. None of this jail time was
a pretty picture or pictures, all due to void judgments.

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January 22, 2014 at 9:56 PM

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@ 1. who is the injured party?
You are, I am.
@ 2. who is the man/woman making a claim against i; a man?
He/she is called the complaining witness.
@ if there is no injured party, then there is no case
There is an injured party, see above who.
@ there must be a man/woman present to take the stand and point at you and make a claim that
their property was harmed in some way,..
We are accused of injuring the peace & dignity of the people of the state of (whatever state you are
in)
Great news if we get a jury trial right? Dont tell me the difference in jury trial & trial by jury. Either way,
they have all been injured by you, or me, according to the complaining witness. Gods law requires 2
or 3 witnesses. But that would be no problem for them either. The word, straw man once upon a
time, & this is true would be in the courthouses with a stick of straw protruding from one of his
shoes,just enough 2 B noticed by the right ones & this was the sign that his witness services were

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available for cash. I kiddeth thou not.


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dejure
January 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM

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Regarding injured parties, we are back to affidavits and declarations. One has to have first hand
knowledge of the thing complained of, or it is no complaint at all.
A prosecutor cannot make a complaint or indictment and can only prosecute one handed him.
Again, he lacks first hand knowledge, so cannot testify to the facts of the complaint.
Just some food for thought. In the sixties, the public was duped into allowing most criminal traffic
issues to be converted to infractions.
Before traffic was decriminalize, traveling my means of a moped at a speed in excess of the
posted speed was a crime. Because it was a crime, we had the benefit of a presumption of
innocence and to have the matter heard by a jury of our peers. However, people focused on the
stigma of having a criminal record. The public didnt distinguish much between misdemeanors
and felonies, let alone the degrees tied to each.
After, all presumptions did a one eighty and are now in favor of representative government. This
means, anything an agent said is presumed true, so you are presumed guilty until proven
innocent. Of course, since it is no longer criminal, there were no juries anymore and you dont
get your matter heard in an open court of record.
That, if you can afford an attorney you dont need to go down that road aside, attorneys wont do
it, but you have the right to a real trial and representation anytime one of our rights is going to
disappear. In this instance, it would be your license, when you cant pay (back to that contempt
thing I talked of).
Anytime there is a potential threat of jail, you have the right to be appointed counsel. If you really
want to drive the justice facility business nuts, file a few things. For example:
1) A Motion for Hearing on the Right to Truncate, Transpose, Abbreviate or Convert to all Capitals
My Family and Christian Names;
2) Notice to your appointed attorney informing him/her it is your case, and you expect discovery,
motions, a record on which an appeal could be had (objections, testimony, documents like
affidavits introduced and MOVED into evidence and so forth)
Inform all you expect your attorney to call the prosecution to the stand to testify any time he signs
an affidavit.

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an affidavit.
When the judge violates law, such as acts in excess of jurisdiction, you demand he file an
appropriate complaint with the Judicial Conduct Commission. This includes times you inform
the judge his court denied you your common law right of access to case files, which includes a
one day turn around, but which attorneys do not have to suffer (timely denial of access to case
files is equated to a violation of due process, so a constitutional level violation).
Another example would be when the Yakima, Washington, Municipal-District Court let the jail
facility access bail money before a conviction. This violates law and constitution and required a
conspiracy between the court and the jail enterprise. Of course, this is all public record and the
courts must take judicial notice of government records, when certified, and all government
records can be certified.
3) You demand his insurance information if his incompetence, negligence or representation
otherwise injures you.
4) Noticing him. For example, you do not waive even one right, so, though he thinks himself only
there to address the issues before the court, if the matter before the court is about you building a
fence from cow pies and the other side introduces an issue claiming you improperly painted
your house blue with pink pokadots, his failure to address them, when you are not allowed to
talk because of his presence, will be construed to be a damage for which you will seek relief.
Noticing him, if you find he pleas out most of his clients, you will act to determine if he may be
made the subject of a qui tam for taking money on a contract without performing.
Just filing a well written notice similar to this makes the conspiracy gang squirmingly
uncomfortable. Its also a good way to get almost every attorney to, on his own volition, ask to be
allowed to withdraw (usually, they dig deep and find a conflict of interest, so the judge will have to
allow them to withdraw).
An attorney will not do this because he has to go in front of the judge again, and again. It would
destroy his business.

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Hi Al: this was likely destined for JP court, which consists of a JP judge who gets his law education from
reading inscriptions on the bathroom wall. In Texas statute, this is a stop under Section 543 of the
Texas Transportation Code. The officer, if he does not arrest and confine, may decide to release the
arrested person ( yes, your friend was arrested ) to appear on his own volition before a MAGISTRATE,
not a Judge. The citation says appear before a Judge, Different functions, different offices. The DPS
dude is guilty of forcing your friend to enter into a deceptive contract while displaying a deadly weapon.

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File criminal charges against the DPS dude.


Also, your friend had the option to present himself ( not appearhe cannot appear anymore than he
can disappear ) before the designated court on or before the appointed day and time, and demand to
see the MAGISTRATE. The MAGISTRATE hearing is required under Section 543 Texas Transportation
Code, and Texas Code of Criminal Procedures 14.06 and 15.01 to conduct an Examination Hearing in
order to determine Probable Cause. Your friend should demand that hearing and refuse to plea to the
charge as there had been no examination hearing by a MAGISTRATE of competent jurisdiction. See
Rothgery v Gillespe County, Supreme Court of the United States, I think it was June 2008 so its relevant.
This is only the beginning.
They would have to throw the alleged Citation out for so many reasons. I would guess there is no
Criminal Complaint in his file either.
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Judson
January 21, 2014 at 2:06 AM

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One of my classes long ago, the teacher rased the issue of getting a copy of the addmenistrations
rules, or going to them when your dealing with seach.
Case in point, OSAHA, this agency was reaking a open sand pit opperation and it owner over the coles.
Attorneys from another state who spechialized in OSAHA law were brought in and being paied. The
owner got a copy of the OASHA manual and reading it found the agency had no jurisdiction over open pit
sand operation. the owner his self then sued both his attorneys and OASHA in Federal Court.
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January 21, 2014 at 4:07 AM

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Remember, you can accept a public prostitutor and have fun, First, look into how many clients she/he
has. Too many, I bet, so cannot EFFECTIVELY represent you. That same attorney was appointed at
arraignment, so didnt show until the next hearing. However, arraignment is a critical stage of the
proceedings. In short, this guy or gal took public money and didnt perform on the contract. Sounds like
a key tom action, to me.
The there is the fact you serve your attorney with directives, and notice you want his omissions ans
errors insurance, in case he screws up. Your notice directs him to build a record on which an appeal
can be had, to include making objections, introducing then entering evidence, giving testical-mony and

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performing actual discovery, Of course, there is the matter of motions regarding things like the courts
failure to appoint the attorney before a critical hearing, and so forth.
This may get you up to seven or more attorneys before they start finding excuses to cut you loose.
You can file notice on the court that you have no money, so cannot pay, thus killing any contempt (they
can;t through you in jail for owing money).
Said another way, have some fun
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Greetings, dejure,
I LIKE your method. Thats right its all about the money. If you cost them, then they will cut you
loose and move on to easier victims.
Yartap.
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January 21, 2014 at 7:25 PM

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@ If you cost them, then they will cut you loose
Or, is it every which way but loose. Cut you? Oh yes, & cut you deep too. Cuts that leave both
mental & physical scars. I can tell by both comments you both have a lot of front line experience.

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dejure,
@ Remember, you can accept a public prostitutor and have fun,
If We the Subjects out here understood what you do, I can imagine what you say is true. Let me say
the same thing a different way. I believe your statement is true BECAUSE I can see you are well
versed in that legal field. If I was not aware of this. I would think Yeah Right. Fun Hell. I dont believe
that ANY of We the Subjects are going to have ANY FUN if we do not understand that which you do
understand. No response from you is expected. I am still trying to get in touch but itd to taxing to try &

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Adrian
January 21, 2014 at 2:22 PM

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If you identify yourself thru a STATE ID you are a person in general and in particular one who is
dba an artificial person or corporation.
You are who you say that you are.
All the Courts in America are contractual corporate Courts.
When that COP hands you a notice,that is an invitation to contract.
You can accept it or reject it within 72 hours.
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January 21, 2014 at 2:58 PM

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I doubt that all or even most of the courts are contractual in nature. A contract requires full
disclosure, consideration, meeting of the mindS, and TWO signatures. Virtually none of the
requirements seen in classical contracts are found in most of the documents that get us into
trouble with the gov-co. Most of the current documents carry a SINGLE signatureYOURS. That
single signature does not create a contractit creates a PLEDGE. That pledge probably exists in
EQUITY as a fiduciary obligation rather than at law as a contract.
Its been a long time since I had a drivers license, but my recollection of the drivers license process
is that it included a statement that I promise to be bound by the traffic laws of this state. I signed it.
No one else signed it. With only one signature, there cant be a meeting of the mindS since only
one person is signatory. So, what is a single signature document? I believe its a PLEDGE.
Bank signature cards another example of single-signature documents that cant be contracts, but
are probably PLEDGES. What do they say? I promise [or agree or some such] to be bound by the
laws the United States. Theres no contract there. Just one signature. I believe that makes the bank
signature card a pledge.
We are ensnared in courts by virtue of our pledges rather than our contracts.
Im not be true, but it strikes me as possible that the danger of the Pledge of Allegiance is that
while I may pledge my allegiance to the government, there is no counter-pledge, promise or contract
from the government to protect me or my rights. It may be that I am thereby bound to obey the
government, but the government has no correlative obligation to serve or protect me. If that were so,

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January 21, 2014 at 3:32 PM

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You are right,in a true sense they are agreements.However,since there are no Law Courts in
America anymore,where do you go to contest such a fraudulent agreement?
Remember,those agreements are enforced by abuse of power.
THEY never offer you a true contract.
The/a Constitution is a contract but you are no part of it.
Your rights are no contract,they are natural impulses for action.
What we have is a natural instinct for survival.
Survival of the fittest.

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January 21, 2014 at 4:56 PM

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Here in Georgia, the drivers license is signed by driver and the Governor. Yartap.

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January 22, 2014 at 10:07 PM

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Adrian,
@ When that COP hands you a notice,that is an invitation to contract.You can accept it or reject it
within 72 hours.
How?
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January 23, 2014 at 4:44 PM

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Write on it rejected,date and take it to the City Hall within 72 hours.They may send it back to you.
Repet the same.They can only make that offer twice.

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January 24, 2014 at 1:29 AM

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dejure, Shalom,
I really wanted to start this message out by saying, I love you, but I thought, no, I am in enough
trouble. Its the kind of love like I have for my parents. I try to love My friend Jesus too, but I guess
its more like lip service than the walking kind.I am trying to let my talk walk. I truly am
@ This was about being prepared.
Yes.I understand. Apparently I am still weak in this area even after years of study. I am a fan of
people like Justice James Wilson,(Chisholm v. Georgia) Justice Joseph Story etc. (Storys
commentaries) & now I am a fan of yours,dejure.
@ I had reviewed the rules. In no instance did the prosecutor give a cite supporting his claims,
but the judge presumed in his favor.
WHAT !!! NO WAY !!!THE JUDGE PRESUMED IN HIS FAVOR??!! OH NO !! Now you have gone to
far, dejure. The Judge presumed in his favor? Thats unrealistic. Please tell me you are just
joking. Oh thats ok, I know you were just kidding.
dejure,I sent you a message earlier about a physical address. PLEASE respond to that
message in some manner. I dont really like to send messages like that over the internet, but I
dont know how to do otherwise.under these conditions.

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January 24, 2014 at 1:43 AM

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@ Write on it rejected,date and take it to the City Hall within 72 hours.They may send it back to
you.Repet the same.They can only make that offer twice.
Didnt work for me & I never received a 2nd offer. But, I did receive a knock on the door & I was
arrested for failure to appear. This was on a Friday afternoon. Stayed in jail until Monday
afternoon. I did appear in torn jail cloths. I was advised I signed the the citation promising to
appear and rejecting was not an alternative, excepting that I could give all the reasons for
rejection at my appearance Its senseless to say anymore about what happened next.

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If you identify yourself thru a STATE ID you are a person in general.

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AND if you cannot identify yourself in this required way that only they recognize, then they KNOW
something is wrong & you are hiding something & you are arrested for concealing identity. TELL ME
ABOUT IT.
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January 21, 2014 at 3:47 PM

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The Constitution is not a contract. Its a trust.
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@ >Survival of the fittest
like in dog eat dog,right? Another way of saying genocide. You sure have a lot to look forward to,
because we both know you are going to be top dog in the end. And all by yourself until you die & then
there is nothing. The world will be empty. Aw shucks, I forgot. We still have those aliens from out there,
the greys,reptilians etc.Theyre just looking for more space anyway, & they will have plenty of space on
this earth after you,top dog, are gone.
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The Constitution was intended to be a trust but ended up as a contract.
The original colonists,of the 13th,won the battle on the ground but lost it on paper.
We the today Americans have nothing to do with that and this Constitution.
Our rights come from within and we have to fight for that.
If you are not fit to survive you end up your journey.
We did not inherited a thing,we go day by day.
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January 21, 2014 at 4:50 PM

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@..,we go day by day.


You have finally come up with something that makes sense. Yesterday is gone & tomorrow may
never come, at least for some of us..
@ The original colonists,of the 13th,won the battle on the ground but lost it on paper.
13th what? What are colonists of the 13th?
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January 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM

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The Constitution cant be a contract because it wasnt signed by the vast majority of Americans living
back around A.D. 1788. It couldnt possibly be a contract today because there are no living
signatories to that instrument. Its a trust. Thats all is could be.
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January 23, 2014 at 2:08 PM

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First I was talking about the 13 colonies.The constitution of 1789 was signed only by a hand full
of men.IT was a contract only for them.It died out with them.
Today we have only some form of fraudulent agreements that can be inforced only by usage.
They are commercial in nature.
You are taxed,fined only for what you use or do.
We already pay for the use with the sale tax.Fines are volunteer pay outs.
Incom tax is a corporate tax.The real man is not required to pay such a tax.
Stay away from the strawman.
Another thing,a citty-zen is also a freeman.
I for one prefer the status of freeman.
All corporate cityzens are tax payers.
The trust constitution never was.There is a contract=constitution of US Inc.
We the American people are not part of it.

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Adrian,
@ IT was a contract only for them.It died out with them.
unt uhh. It was a proposal & plan for ALL the christian people & the posterity of same in the U.S.,i.e
the several states. More than enough people in essence said yes, lets give it a shot, Lets try it this

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way. The fruits of this plan were working out wonderfully. But something else was going on to
change this. Something in the air.
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Yartrap. Its interesting that the Georgia DL carries the governors signature, but thats only a copy of his
signaturenot a true, intentional signature for each DL. I dont know what the legal effect of a copy of a
signature may be, but I doubt that theres any true meeting of the minds since the Governor never
actually saw or personally signed any DL other than his own. Which brings up an interesting question, if
the governors signature appears twice on the governors DL, is the document a contract, a pledge, or
some sort of legal nullity?
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Al,
Great points! Of course, no one sits down with the Governor and signs a driving contract. But, the
drivers signature is also a copy on the license. But, there are auto-signing and e-signing which
have been recognized by the courts. Example: an insurance policy has auto-signs placed upon
them. As far as the Governor signing for himself and the state, a trustee can be a representative of
more than one trust (fictional person and the corporate state). I think a drivers license is more like a
one signature/one sided bank adhesion contract as you say.
A license and a contract are two different birds, by definition. A license is a granted permission, by a
competent authority, to do something which is illegal. Whereas, a contract is a voluntary agreement
between different parties upon equal grounds of terms. An adhesion contract is inalterable contract;
where the offering party has more superior powers over the voluntary/agreeable customer party, and
the terms and conditions must be equal for all customers for legality.
We should know that: NO bilateral (two party) contract requires any signatures. But, for those that
do need/require signatures (the contract fits within statutes of fraud), it needs to be signed by the
parties to be charged. But these question arise.
1. Does a checking account or drivers license (if a contract) fit within the statutes of fraud?
The answer is NO they do not fit within the statutes of fraud, only such things as mortgages, loans,
insurance agreements and sale of property over a set statute amount.

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2. If a contract is NOT within the statutes of fraud and is biding without signatures; can a contract be
biding with just one signature, along with the meeting of the minds? I believe so.
A unilateral contract is a contract that can only be accepted by performance. One could consider it
as a one signature contract. But, it becomes bilateral once another fulfills the offered terms by the
performance of the contract. This is not like a drivers license.
Tho, I think a drivers license is more like a one signature/one sided bank adhesion contract as you
say. WHY?..
1. Because, you have the God-given un-infrangible, unalienable RIGHT to travel by any means.
2. The mere act of driving is not immoral, is not harmful to anyone, is not unjust to anyone, and is not
a tort; therefore nor is it UNLAWFUL! as the state says it is.
3. The simple original traffic laws for Georgia, enacted in 1933s Depression, came under the
Georgia Department of Revenue and was meant to raise/generate revenue for a struggling state.
Here are ALL of the Georgia traffic laws of that time. A. Every motor auto shall have a yearly state
issued license at fee (as we know it as a tag; basically an annual set tax). B. No one will drive
intoxicated (no punishment was stated). C. Those who transport (commercial term) other people
and goods for fee shall have a yearly Chaffers License at fee. D. Those who fail to license shall pay
double fee. E. The Department of Revenue shall establish and set all fees. And that was it!
4. You can waive your rights at any time, contractually, or merely by not demanding them.
5. To prove it is a contract, in order for your drivers license to be enforced in ANOTHER state; there
must be a reciprocating agreement between states that allows/requires other states traffic laws to
be enforceable upon foreign or out of state drivers.
If one obtains a Drivers license (contract with the state), you are voluntarily replacing/rescinding your
RIGHT to Travel for the states PRIVILEGE to Drive/Transport (commercial terms) by contract.
Yartap.
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I suspect that a unilateral contract is no more a contract than the Federal Reserve is an
element of the Federal government. I suspect that the term unilateral contract is intended to
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pledge. If my suspicions are roughly correct, then trying to attack a unilateral contract under
the presumption that it is a true contract will fail, while trying to attack a unilateral contract
under the presumption that its actually a pledge may succeed.
I suspect that you may be free to drive and travel within a State of the Union (The State of
Texas), but you may not be free to drive/travel within a territory like Texas, TX, or STATE OF
TEXAS. Conduct that may be free and unregulated within the borders of a State of the Union
may require a license within a territory.
the mos significant document associated with a drivers license may be the application rather
than the license thats issued by this state.
When the cop asks for identification, Im not convinced that hes asking for evidence of who
YOU are as an individual man or woman. I cant prove it, but I strongly suspect that hes actually
asking Which plane or venue to you IDENTIFY with: That of The State of the Union or that of
this state (a territory and/or administrative district of the United States.) If you produce a
Drivers License issued by this state he knows youre a subject and he can do just about
anything he has a mind to do to you. If you produce some other document that offers evidence
that you identify with a State of the Union, he may not have any legal authority over you. He may
still split your head open, but within The State, that violence may be illegal while in this state,
that same violence may be acceptable. . . . This is an easy theory to advance, and a very difficult
strategy to implement in fact.

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January 22, 2014 at 1:48 AM

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@ A license is a granted permission, by a competent authority, to do something which is illegal.
Wow !! I hate to know what incompetent authorities grant. If we accept the granted permission by
a so called competent authority to do something which is illegal, shame on us. What is the new
definition of ill? Once upon a time ill meant sick.

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January 22, 2014 at 3:08 AM

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WARNING LATE NIGHT RAMBLING FOLLOWS:
Re A license is a granted permission, by a competent authority, to do something which is
illegal. The way Ive always stated it is, a license is a permission to do what is otherwise illegal.
Consider marriage licenses. When you look it up in a Blacks Law Dictionary, you are directed to

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miscegenation (Blacks Fourth). I was not familiar with the term when I read it, but it pertained to
marrying between races. The original marriage license allowed an otherwise illegal act a
white guy marrying a black woman.
In contract law, printed matter is superseded by typed matter and that is superseded by hand
written matter. Writing on a license can alter the agreement. If someone tries to stop you, use
your state public disclosure laws to request the law which prohibits that (none exists, so it would
be an agent abusing authority by usurping legislative powers.)
Based on the foregoing you can note you do not waive a right conditional of accepting a license.
An attorney tried to argue the mere fact I took a license subjected me, but I pointed out to him I
altered the agreement, then handed it back to DOL and they ratified the agreement by laminating
it. He admitted he had never thought of that and actually became helpful after the fact.
Delving into all this can be interesting and even useful. Many like to pretend certain levels and
locals of government recognize only marriages licensed by the state. If so, the aofrementioned
definition can be brought into play, along with that the federal government recognizes common
law marriages. If it does, the local government may find itself behind the rock, next to that hard
spot, trying to deny other than a state sanctioned marriage.
The Constitution is a protection of the liberty right to establish and exercise religion. For many,
God ordained marriage. As such, government cannot make it illegal, even if it can regulate it
(e.g., make marrying mom illegal)).
Jump then to the drivers license. As Ive harped on, over and again, we cannot be compelled to
waive a single right as a condition of exercising another. Lots of case law on that. However, most
licenses have [vague] implied consent attached. From that, it is presumed you waive your right to
be compelled to given evidence against yourself. Accordingly, it is up to us to notice the DOL we
do not waive a right.
I even went so far as to demand: 1) the documents that would prohibit the following (again, its
often what they cannot give that is critical, and may be certified, as a government record, for use
in court (if they dont have the prohibition, the request for records is a public record and certifiable
for evidentuary purposes too); 2) to take the tests, so I could determine my competency to drive;
and, 3) a copy of the results, since I could not accept a license because they could not guarantee
their agents in the field would not presume I had waived my rights having it. They tried to bring in
the AG, but he declined DOLs request.
Remember, it may all be summed up this way: We The People may do any act not proscribed, in
clear contrast with our representative government, which may only do those things prescribed.
Too tired, probably am rambling

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January 25, 2014 at 1:45 PM

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On contracts
In contracts, printed matter is superseded by typed and typed is superseded by hand written.
Next, consider the fact insurance companies will send a letter stating they think your car was
only worth half what it was insured for and accompany the letter with a check. If you cash the
check, youve acted on the offer and agreed to the terms.
Whether or not the license is a contract aside, using these concepts can change how you are
treated traveling with state ID.
Washington laws make clear having ID can keep you out of an arrest, when stopped driving
without a license, except when suspended (which is only good for a year, regardless what is
said).
You can send DOL records requests to determine why they print your name in all caps (if nothing
else, you get comical answers). You can also seek public records they believe allows them, the
programers who set the program for their printers up, the program licensing company or others
have authority to alter your names (truncation, abbreviation, capitalization.)
You can send DOL notice they spelled your name wrong, that you do not live in a federal region,
that you do not waive a protected right and so forth (back to the insurance company method). If
they write back and say they cannot accommodate you or notice those relying on their
information you have not waived your right, you have the proof you can use in court you could not
exercise a right without waiving another, but which the law says you cannot be compelled to do.
One of the best places I think those starting out in law can begin is, pick up a Basic Business
Law book at a Goodwill, yard sale or other source where you can get it for fifty cents to a couple
bucks.
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If one obtains a Drivers license (contract with the state), you are voluntarily replacing/rescinding
your RIGHT to Travel for the states PRIVILEGE to Drive/Transport (commercial terms) by
contract.

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A couple of years ago, I was kicked out of a local university. This was because, after over a month of
hassle trying to get an online class to work and going through every avenue available including going up
to one department head, two vice presidents, and the president of said university, I finally fell off the
wagon, got drunk and called them up and cussed them out.
I was sent a Notice of Hearing which included lies about me going all over campus and making threats
in my physical person as well as making threats on the phone, none of which i did. Granted, I did use
some profanity on the telephone but none of this involved any threats of any kind.
I responded in writing via certified mail, three separately addressed envelopes to the appropriate
college personnel, in which I questioned the allegations of me making threats and I requested
clarification of these and other false charges against me. As the college did NOT respond to any of
these, I did NOT attend my hearing.
To make a long story short, I later obtained an audio recording of my hearing. When it came time for
them to read my letter responding to my Notification of Hearing, there was four minutes and fifty-seven
seconds of silence (presumably five minutes) as they read my written response to themselves.
For various reasons, I chose NOT to pursue this in court, one of these reasons being that the president
of that university took that position directly from working in the governors office and by his
recommendation.
As I see it, since this is all still on my record, I can act against them at any time.
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January 22, 2014 at 1:16 AM

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Rule number one, in my experience, is paper response. However, mere letters mean nothing. An
affidavit or declaration can often turn a case around. The reason is simple, it puts your head on a
chopping block, so to speak. For example, all criminal complaints MUST be accompanied by a
declaration or affidavit so the person making the complaint can be held to task for false complaints.
Take the laws referenced in RCW 9A.72.080 (for WA), which usually is usually mentioned in criminal
complaints. It says: Any statement not known to be true is false.
I have seen more than one contempt case die based on nothing more than an affidavit. In The State
of Washington, the constitution prohibits debtors prison, except in the case of absconding debtors.
Courts get around this by finding individuals in contempt for not complying with a court order [to pay
money]. However, such contempt actions must be purgable. As such, an individual can file a
declaration stating their inability to pay the money demanded, which the prosecution must over
come, and, unless rebutted, the contempt dies. You have the right to stand on the
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Keep in mind, while judges claim to have judicial immunity, that does not apply where they lack
jurisidiciton.
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January 22, 2014 at 2:54 AM

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@ >Keep in mind, while judges claim to have judicial immunity, that does not apply where they
lack jurisidiciton.
Once again,what you say sounds good IF we were communicating overall with powers that had
integrity. I force myself to think a few individually do. Every time I lost, I blamed myself by thinking I
am still missing, not understanding something. So back to the drawing board I go over & over &
over. & with the belief that if I can just get it right Ill be successful & I thought of how much I could
be of help to others so they will not be literally beaten to a pulp. But, then when I discovered
these people are agents of Satan. How can Satan cast out Satan? Please post a beginning
document, e.g a complaint, & the ending document,dismissed,etc.Other than failure to appear
on the part of the complaining witness as he/she is called. OR tell me of a website you know of
that I can dig deeper in to your statement >trust me this and what I talked of elsewhere will
cause a storm. Thank you very much.

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January 22, 2014 at 3:28 AM

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After twenty years in law, I was tired of the corruption of which you speak. I was tired of carrying
client files and one day burned several boxes of them. I watched my own stress go away in their
smoke. As such, the best I could do is dig around and give you some names and courts, where
you could pull records.
Government hates loosing face. So when it does lose, it likes it to be due to a procedural error,
usually blamed on some clerical mistake. There are other times, though, that are fun. Look up
Scott Wood vs Thurston County, Washington. The county played every dirty game in the book to
obstruct his land development. In then end, they kept breaking the rules, they just started
breaking them in his favor. They gave him permits for his five seven acre lots, but only charged
him for one. They gave him two automatic 180 day extensions and allowed him to alter his site
plans, if it was enough to get us off their backs (the hunter became the hunted via the Public
Disclosure Act.
A painter I helped was evicted from his property based on his illegal septic. When we were done,
they sent him a letter telling him to move back on his property and leave them alone (Lewis
County, Wash).

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In Thurston County, they targeted me, so I targeted them. For example, I found none of the GALs
being paid by the court had licenses. A public defender was using court letterheads and mailing
services for her contract work. CASA was violation disclosure laws and on and on. Attorneys
started running out and getting licenses, defenders quit stealing from the people
You can fight city hall. For me, that meant being a good BSr, on paper. Said another way, when
you write a motion or pleading, make it look like an attorney did it. Proof read it. Cite law, etc.

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You are right. We dont always win when we should, because of corruption, smoke and mirrors.
However, we win a lot too.
Whenever possible, keep it in the administrative realm. Mans law states due process begins at
the administrative level.
Looking back at my own losses and later wins, I note a huge difference. Initially, you could pull
an agency file on me and would find the agencys side laden with documents. Law presumes
agents saints, so everything in the file, on the agencys side, had to be rebutted. When I started
loading my side with public records requests, their responses (especially those where they
could not provide documents supporting their actions), declarations that cited to their own
procedures and failure to apply them, or lack of responsive public records and so forth, things
started changing.
My last go around was some years back. I had custody of my daughter, up until just before she
turned eighteen, when she and her mother wanted her to live with her mother (where she was
free to stay out, smoke, have her boyfriend over, etc). While she played the runaway game, they
tried for support, even going so far as to disclose all my personal information to businesses
they thought I was contracting with (I worked for myself).
Support Enforcement put their most veteran attorney on the case and it became a back and forth
poking match. Finally, I demanded an administrative hearing. That became another banter fest
too, until I stood and informed him I was terminating the hearing and got up to leave. He stopped
me at the door, pulled open a drawer and withdrew an order in my favor. He just had to play it to
the end, but didnt want to take it the court level.
Remember, forcing you into a court for resolution can be a frivolous action (CR 11 of the Court
Rules). Not on your part for bringing it, but for the agencys part for bad faith.

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January 22, 2014 at 3:42 AM

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Im inclined to view most trials as administrative procedures rather than true judicial processes.
Can a judge who sits in an administrative capacity still claim judicial immunity?

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[As usual, I use laws and things from WA]
You are right that most supposed trials are shams. For example, from reading our constitution,
we have the right to have are matters decided in open court. Only a judge can convene court.
Step over to so called family law court and you find court commissioners handling much of the
business of the facilities. Clearly, these are not court matters, since commissioners cannot
convene court. At best, theirs are the works of judges at chambers.
If we dont like the warped works of the comm, they give you a chance though. If you act within ten
days of the order by the commissioner (the time does not start running until the order is filed).
Then a judge hears it, a a Motion for Review (RCW 2.24.050).
I dont always know what Im doing, or how I won, even now, thirty years later. But I believe much
of the information given here was instrumental.
I had been dealing with the most prejudiced court comm, Peter Young, I ever met (may he rest
fitfully). You cant prejudice a comm, since they arent judges. Instead, you have to seek a Writ of
Prohibition.
I didnt seek a writ, but the comm went away anyway. I formed a document (this was yet in the
day of the Brother type writer, so I dont have it on my drive) and filed it. Afterward, they started
moving me in front of a judge. That would work for a while, until he got fed up with my patriot crap
and put me back in front of the comm, again. However, when I would show in front of him, theyd
stop everything and move me back over to the judge.
All the document did was cite the constitutional protection of the right to have our matters heard
in open court, inform them every order given would be submitted for review (a review of a court
commissioners decision, as set out in RCW 2.24.050, is an appeal to the Superior Court),
and a few other things.
I also sought the appointment of the comm:

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RCW 2.24.010 Appointment of court commissionersQualificationsTerm of office.


There may be appointed in each county or judicial district, by the judges of the superior court
having jurisdiction therein, one or more court commissioners for said county or judicial district.
Each such commissioner shall be a citizen of the United States and an elector of the county or
judicial district in which he may be appointed, and shall hold his office during the pleasure of the
judges appointing him. [1979 ex.s. c 54 1; 1967 ex.s. c 87 1; 1961 c 42 1; 1909 c 124 1;
RRS 83. Prior: 1895 c 83 1.]
Of course, the comm had not be reappointed with the election and re-election of each judge, so
all related decisions were in question.
Since every public official must take an oath (actually, two, one for state and one for federal), I
sought that. Those, of course, were, for the most part, missing too.
NOTES:
On court commissioner powers: EXPRESSIO UNIUS EST EXCLUSIO ALTERIUS. This is a well
established rule of constitutional construction, which is, the express mention of one thing
implies the exclusion of the other. State ex rel. Banker v. Clausen, 142 Wash. 450, 253 Pac. 805
(1927). YELLE v. BISHOP, 55 Wn. (2d) 286, 295, 306 (Dec. 17, 1959).

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Al,
Thats a great question. Why is it that many judges are required to have bonds? I have
experienced that just the mere mention that you know they have a bond makes them sure
straighten up.
Yartap.

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And regarding judges bonds, you can sue the bond up to seven years after the act in question.
The WA Bar Association will insure attorneys acts, and sometimes pays out on claims, but will
go after the attorney to recoup the loss, just as the bond companies go after the bonded county,
city or other deep pockets.
In WA, Inc. we have the Public Disclosure Commission. They actually try hard at being helpful

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and provide many insightful public records, such as records on elected officials campaign
finances, or judges [and immediate familys] business dealings, after they are elected.

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dejure,
Did you see what Alfred Adask said about you? If not, > dejure makes almost astonishing
contributions. Im hoping to talk to him one of these days.
I tried to send you an E-mail, using the link you provided and something came up for me to fill in
information,etc., that I did not understand. Never had anything like that to take place. Ill try again
a different way. Do not respond to this message. You have a full plate +++.

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citizenquasar
I wish I could be of help but I cannot. Hopefully someone on this blog can. But this is to let you know
I care.
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@ Can a judge who sits in an administrative capacity still claim judicial immunity?
Immunity fosters neglect & breeds irresponsibility while liability promotes caution and care. This caution
and care is owed to the people. < words I memorized from another case. There are so many
immunities now, IT'S INSANE !!! even quasi judicial immunity. BUT ANY kind of immunity is answered by
the words I memorized. The Clinton Administration, Bush Administration Obama Administration,
Everything is administrative. I believe the "Good Lord" was present in your MOOA case, through one
angel of his many legions of angels.
What do i need to have to be able to listen to your new radio program? I don't know anything about
computers. I know how to turn it on & off & that's about the extent of it.
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January 22, 2014 at 12:16 PM

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Actually, the administrative realm is the most legally dangerous to a judge. Acts in that capacity are,
of course, administrative and not judicial. When a judge files his ruling, he steps out of his judicial
capacity.
Everything a judge does outside of a convened court is in chambers, even at the downtown bar.
But, again, if he lacks jurisdiction, he cannot claim immunity.
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Thank you for your information. If I am not asking too much, Please define for me, Judge,
Magistrate, Court & Tribunal. I have been in Magistrate Courts, & a sign says, Judge
Blackheart, in front of where he/she is sitting. I have been in Municipal Courts, & the sign in front
of where he/she is sitting says, Judge Hardheart. I have never been in any court where the sign
in front of him/her says, Magistrate, ALL say, Judge so & so. Its Judge, Magistrate, Court &
Tribunal.I want to know more about & why Municipal & Magistrate courts have nameplates, etc.,
that say JUDGE. Thank you thank you thank you.

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dejure,
Maybe you are the one I owe an apology too. For some unknown reason I cannot find the man
who said: Playing in the legal system is fun. My experience(s) have been MAYHEM. Small town
justice. It was better in larger towns. But the jails are all the same. After reading more of your
messages,dejure, it seems that you are or have been a lawyer. I dont mean to nitpick but I
believe there is a difference in a lawyer & an attorney. Some of the best lawyers our Country ever
had NEVER went to law School. I KNOW THIS. So, if you are the one I sent my message to
saying in essence you aint gonna B.S. me, I am sorry I said this. I know of J.Ps working in cohoots with State police that split the fines between themselves. They hold court in their own
homes out on the back porch. Troublefield Texas for 1 example of 4 other places, in other States.
I do know this. Once upon a time there used to be 3 elements that comprised jurisdiction. Today
there are only 2. & brother the things they can get away with by eliminating that 3rd element.
Anyway, if you are not the one I owe an apology to, just keep this one for the future, when I will. I
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if someone says he is having fun playing in the legal system I conclude 1 of 2 things, He a B.S.
er OR a corrupt agent of gov-co. We are the sum total of our experiences. You strike me as being
honest. & I can sure learn a lot from you.

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You owe me no apology J.M. , but, Ha! Ill save that apology for when I have to give it back.
Ill try to get back to you with something solid on your question, but I may be slow. Im a little
more than a bit over the hill and today was a busy and tiring day.
Yes, I was a lawyer. I started into law a few decades ago, when I figured out justice was
purchased thing, and I could not afford to purchase it. My first case was my attorney, who
charged me 25k for his expertise. When we were done with each other, he dropped the bill and
I never heard from him again. Id feel guilty, but, like most attorneys, he was a learned idiot. My
ramblings on the matter of purging contempts would make my case. Id challenge anybody to
find a single attorney who ever used it. Instead, they resorted to smoke and mirrors, such as
motions to reduce payments and such.
Hmm. As I typed, I remembered an individual I helped several times. I sent him to court with a
Notice of Appeal. I told him theyd walk all over him, but that should monkey wrench their game
that day (there is so much more to this comedy, but my fingers tire after a while). Of course, they
found against him, ordered him to pay a gazillion dollars a month in support, then sent him to
the jury box to await the baliff, who would, kindly, cart him off to jail.
His new attorney (my papers got the other egomaniac to ask to be allowed to withdraw) asked
what he was doing. He told him he was signing the Notice of Appeal. Needless to say, jail time
cannot be given back. Other means has to be found to compensate someone tossed in jail and
later found to not have deserved it.
His new attorney (as of minutes earlier) volunteered to take the notice back to the judge, where
he and his ex parte partner, the prosecutor, were visiting. When the attorney came back, support
had been dropped to fifty and he was told to go home. Of course, he signed papers without
noting the threat and duressbut those were other, later battles.

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DEAR dejure,
Freely I have received from you and I want to freely give too. Will you provide a physical address

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so I may do this. Its the only way I am aware of I can do this. Hopefully, you have access to a
P.O. Box address. Please do not respond by saying its not necessary. I believe in the ol time
meaning of the golden rule. I also believe that what is good for the goose is good for the gooseE. One thing I become exasperated with is, the messages get out of chronological order
because some comments have a Reply button (<?) & some don't. I wish every comment had
this reply button. It would make it so much easier to understand what comment is applicable to
another comment. Otherwise, it gets & is confusing. I went to another message from you that
has a reply button to send you this comment from me.

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First, there is not the least bit of doubt in my mind that the Good LORDs hand was in that case. Thats
not a conclusion I came to after the fact. I knew it when the Good LORD let me see and understand the
meaning of the man or other animals language in the relevant laws. My co-defendant brought a small
bottle of virgin olive oil that had been prayed over by the people in his Bible study class; he used that oil
to anoint all four corners of the court house every time we came for a hearing. On one occasion he was
able to secretly anoint the judges chair. The Assistant Attorney General handling the case at one point
complained that hed been there for 22 years and he had never before had one of his motion hearings
denied or stopped. In our case, hed had eight such hearings that were somehow stopped and
thereby prevented him from proceeding. We just laughed. We knew it was NOT us. We werent smart
enough to stop those hearings. But something always happened. One day when we were scheduled
to have a hearing three different judges had emergency medial or dental procedures and they had to
send us home. The Assistant Attorney General couldnt understand it. But we did. We knew that the
Good LORD was buying us time; giving us enough time to educate ourselves and slowly get up to
speed where we could give the Asst AG and the Judges a real run for their money. If they couldve
proceeded against us quickly at the beginning, they wouldve crushed us like a tin can. But, because our
Father YHWH ha Elohiym bought us enough time to learn, we were able to stop the Attorney General.
Plus, the man or other animals laws went on the books with the A.D. 1906 Pure Food and Drug Act. I
read those laws in A.D. 2006 and realized what they meant. So far as I know, I am the first layman to
read those laws and understand their spiritual implications in 100 years. One century. Lawyers didnt
even understand that law. Other than the elite, I may have been the first man in one century to
understand the meaning of those laws. Thats not me. Thats the Good LORD letting me see.
So, you are right. The hand of the Good LORD was in that case all along.
As for hearing the radio program live, you must simply go to americanvoiceradio.com at the proper time
and you can hear the program from that website.
Barring the unforseen, Ill do another program next Tuesday.

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Ill post a copy of last nights program on my blog in the next day or so.
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I honestly believe I laughed after reading every sentence in the first paragraph. What away to wake up !!!
It was/is a praise you heavenly Father laugh. He does love his children. I wish Pastor Eric would
consider giving a sermon sometime in the future on the scripture, > Beloved, I wish above all things that
you prosper and be healthy. There are other sermons within that sentence too. Beloved, is another. Who
comprises the Beloved. Who are considered the ones who are beloved? But you know what? If I said, I
wish Pastor Eric would give a sermon on the words of Jesus saying, If you love me keep my
commandments, that would not have set to well with some people. On the other hand, they might say,
yeah, I wish he would too & show how Jesus meant by that statement it was only necessary to keep his
commandments until he was nailed to the cross. & then make sure its understood that keeping his
commandments became abolished & nailed to the cross. Its really this simple, If God says
something is important, & remember this, & do this etc.You better believe Satan is going to influence
people to believe it is no longer important, it no longer needs to be remembered, & you dont have to do
that anymore. There is only one thing I am aware of that has been fulfilled & is no longer required & that
is, the animal sacrifices. In fact, if that was still done it would be another slap in the face of the Messiah,
because he WAS the Supreme sacrifice. So, the animal sacrifices are no longer required. Anyway, I
better stop preaching but if Im not being out of line, could you tell Pastor Eric, that one of your readers
suggested the sermon as I mentioned, above?
Oh, I did click on the links you provided on that New Radio thread, I forget now what happened, what
came up, but It did not take me to the program. By the way, Your radio program is not a show, its an
educational program. We have enough shows. Now I will attempt to post this & if it goes through then I
will see all my errors.
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Greetings, Jim,
And Amen! to your words.
Jim, I had trouble in figuring out how to get Als educational program to run. Once you go to the site,
you will see all these radio looking things. Each one has different internet speeds assigned to each.
The trick is to find the internet speed that fits your computer. You may have to click on many. Every
time I clicked on the wrong speed for my computer, some kind of DVD thing came up and I had to re-

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start my computer and go back to the site and click on another radio speed. Once you click on the
right speed for your computer, your Media Player will come on (if you have a Media Player on your
computer), then the program will come on the air. I hope this has helped. It was confusing to me too.
Blessings, Yartap.
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January 22, 2014 at 2:57 PM

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Yartap,
@January 22, 2014 at 11:59 AM
Thank you,dear Yartap, thank you. Maybe all of this message will post. There have been times I
have posted messages to you & some others or thought the message was being posted
because i SAW the words > posting comment. AND something DOES go through, but only part
of the message. Part1 goes through, partially, with part 2 not going through whatsoever, so part
part 1 partially shows up with part 3 next & part of part 4. That is the only way I know how to
explain it. In addition part of the message is slanted e.g.>/< or something like that. So I try again
& it's about the same thing in reverse, so part of that post is different than the first incomplete
message.
I don't know how to explain confusion. I only know it makes it confusing for whoever may read the
partially posted out of order,incomplete message. Anyway, what can we do. Sometimes I thought
Satan is on the Job. Then I thought, no, the "Good Lord" & when I say "Good Lord" I mean the
Creator & Sustainer of the UNIVERSE doesn't want this to be known at this time. I don't know. It's
bad enough when I make a superduper error & forget to put a 3 letter word where it should
be,e.g. "not" for it is a BIG difference in saying NOT abolished V. abolished. My comment showed
up as saying everything good, holy, & right has been abolished. I KNOW when I read it back
before I posted it I SAW the word NOT. But it didn't post with the "not" in the message. KNOTTY
ain't it?
Then again, I probably THOUGHT I saw something that was not really there. Anyway, WHEN The
Messiah returns in POWER & GLORY & his "spiritual feet" touch that Mountain of Olives it's going
to split apart wide open like all hell has broke loose. Where is that GREAT VALLEY existing today
from the split? Being that some say, oh that must have already happened. They have no choice
but to say that because they know IF it has not "already happened" their whole entire "theory"
falls flat on its face.How can anyone go up to WORSHIP the KING whose feet has split the
mountain apart IF he is not HERE? What is he coming back that close for if he's just coming
back to take some more people back to where he just came from? He doesn't have to come
here to do that. Well I see I'm getting upset but I am weary of all these brilliant minds & calloused
hearted people trying to B.S. me. I will NEVER be so stiffnecked to refuse to admit I am wrong. I
do it everyday. By the way, Yartap, remember now, if you decide to fry a rat for supper, do it,& do
not let anyone judge you for doing so. See, Jesus died on the cross for you to be able to do that
AND if anyone wants to drink their own urine, DO SO so you now can do that too and don't let

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anyone judge you for doing so. My neighbor next door has a good looking wife mmmmm Yes it's
true Now we can do as we damn well please. Colossians, 2 I believe it is, plainly says this,
RIGHT? I believe you will say I'm wrong & you know what? YOU ARE RIGHT AGAIN. The best to
you & yours.

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Yartap, my friend,
Has your sharing with the scholar(s) stopped? Now dont forget to go to, I think its the Phil
Robertson thread (< is that the right word to use, thread ?) anyway, it's the last message from
me to you & let's share. There is something else I want to share with you too. Will get into that
later.

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Yartap,
Its my last message to you on the WJJD thread & it is the last message on that thread. Just
scroll all the way down.

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Here is a method I used for a friends ticket. The judge and prosecutor went in the back room
and, when they came out, dismissed her case. As I pointed out to her, it would be a simple task
to make like difficult for the prosecutor and judge for their pattern of ex parte decisions, but why
mess with a win.
IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT OF RAINIER
IN AND FOR THE TOWN OF RAINIER, WASHINGTON
TOWN OF RAINIER
A MUNICIPAL CORPORATION,
Plaintiff,
vs.
XXXXX XXXXXX,

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Defendant.
WA123456J (MUN)
Ref.: 02312 [citation #];
WA654321
JURISDICTIONAL CHALLENGE AND MOTION AND DECLARATION [AS AN OFFER OF PROOF
FOR THE RECORD ON APPEAL] FOR ORDER OF DISMISSAL
I. MOTION
COMES NOW the defendant, appearing specially and not generally, and moves this Court for an
Order dismissing the Town of Rainiers Complaint.
This motion is based on the files and records of this case and upon the Respondents
subjoined declaration below.
Respectfully submitted this _______ day of July, 2001.
_________________________
XXXXX XXXXXX, defendant
[12345 123 Ave SE]
Post Office Box _____
_______________, Washington
(360) ____-_________
II. DECLARATION
I, XXXXX XXXXXX, declare:
2.0 I am XXXXX XXXXXX, the Defendant in the above styled cause.
2.1 I am over the age of eighteen years and I am otherwise competent to testify as to matters set
out herein.
2.2 The information and statements provided herein are based on my own knowledge and
experience.
3.0 For purposes relative hereto I am appearing specially (RCW 4.28.210), and not generally, to
challenge jurisdiction of this Court based on the facts set out herein:
A justice court does not acquire jurisdiction of a case by defendants appearing specially and
objecting to the jurisdiction of the court, which objection was overruled.
A mere corporal presence of the defendant or his agent at the place of trial is no appearance.

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Some act must be performed, such as answer, demur, or give plaintiff written notice.
Mid-City Materials Inc. v. Heater Beaters Custom Fireplaces, 36 Wash. App. 480, 674 P.2d 1271
(Wa.App. 01/16/1984) citing McCoy v. Bell, 1 Wash. 504; 20 Pac. 595 (1889):
3.1 Any information or statement given herein that might or would be construed as granting or
stipulating to jurisdiction should be disregarded by this Court, as mistake.
3.2 This special appearance is made without representation, of any kind whatsoever, and I
request this Court take notice of the following laws and afford me, at minimum, the level of rights
determined appropriate for pro ses, to wit:
Pro se pleadings are held to less stringent standards than pleadings that are drafted by lawyers.
Evans v. City of Atlanta, 189 Ga. App. 566, 567 (377 S.E.2d 31) (1988); see Haines v. Kerner, 404
U.S. 519 (92 S. Ct. 594, 30 L. Ed. 2d 652) (1972), Dillingham v. Doctors Clinic, 236 Ga. 302 (223
S.E.2d 625) (1976);
Moreover, pro se pleadings are not held to the same standard as those of legal counsel, but are
sufficient if they give at least fair notice of the claim for relief. Beecham v. Commonwealth, Ky.,
657 S.W.2d 234, 236 (1983);
Moreover, liberal construction should be given to pro se pleadings. Tillman v. State, 287 So. 2d
693, 694 (Fla. 2d DCA 1974); Thomas v. State, 164 So. 2d 857, 857 n.1 (Fla. 2d DCA 1964);
Pro se pleadings should be liberally construed. White v. Cole, 880 S.W.2d 292, 294; and,
Pro se pleadings are held to less stringent standards than pleadings that are drafted by lawyers.
Thompson v. Long, 201 Ga. App. 480, 481 (1) (411 S.E.2d 322).
4.0 On June 17, A.D. 2001, at approximately 1:00 P.M. and while attending private matters, I was
stopped/arrested by a female who, to the best of my knowledge, was a Town of Rainier police
officer. Inasmuch as she otherwise failed to identify herself, I will, for purposes herein, refer to
her as 7P2.
4.1 In the course of her stop/arrest, 7P2 demanded information from me, but did so without
informing me the information could be used against me in a civil or criminal proceeding.
4.2 As a condition of my release, 7P2 presented to me and demanded my signature on a form,
the face of which indicated it to be a UNIFORM COURT DOCKET [UCD].
4.4 Whereas 7P2 obtained my signature on the UCD through threat of incarceration, I, therefore,
offer the following objections:
(1) I object to any presumption or conclusion that my signature was voluntarily placed on the
UCD;

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(2) I object to any presumption or conclusion I voluntarily waived any right out of my having been
compelled to sign the UCD;
(3) I object to any presumption I, in any way, ratified the use of the UCD, or any term thereof;
(4) I object to the substance of the UCD and to the form of the UCD, for purposes of compliance
with the requirements established by the Administrator of the Courts [AOC] for traffic infractions;
and,
(5) I object to this Court acquiring jurisdiction out of my having been compelled to sign the UCD.
4.5 The section of the UCD whereat 7P2 indicated I was required to sign contained the
language, I PROMISE TO RESPOND AS DIRECTED ON THIS NOTICE, beneath which was the
following wording, or information:
YOU MUST RESPOND TO THE COURT BELOW ACCORDING TO THE
INSTRUCTIONS ON THE REVERSE SIDE OF THIS NOTICE.
________________ MUNICIPAL COURT
(360) 446-2744
P.O. BOX 123
1234 Somewhere ________________, WA
98576
THURSTON CO. DISTRICT COURT
(360) 786-5450
2000 LAKERIDGE DR. SW OLYMPIA, WA
98502
4.6 Except as noted in paragraph 4.5, above and paragraph 4.7, below, no other directions for
response were provided me.
4.7 P72 failed to mark either of the boxes shown in the excerpt of UCD in paragraph 4.5, above.
As such, 7P2 failed to make clear where I was to send my response, if any; therefore, I object to
any expectation that I file a response and do so based on 7P2s failure to complete the form and
her failure to reasonably inform me of the venue wherein this matter was to be adjudicated.
5.0 The back side of the UCD offered only three choices for responding. Inasmuch as I have not
and do not intend to stipulate to the officers claims, the first two check-off box sections are,
clearly, inapplicable. The third choice contains the following language:
Here are the three ways you can respond.
Pick only one by putting an X in the box.

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Sign your name at the bottom.


I want to contest (challenge) this infraction. I did not commit the infraction. Please send me a
court date, and I promise to appear on that date. The state must prove by a preponderance of the
evidence that I committed the infraction. I know I can require (subpoena) witnesses, including
the officer who wrote the ticket, to attend the hearing. The court will tell me how to request a
witness appearance. I understand this will go on my driving record if I lose and traffic is
checked on the front.
5.1 The back side of the UCD gave me no option other than those indicated above, and the
language in the last option required me to appear. Inasmuch as a general appearance waives
jurisdictional challenges and I have determined to not volunteer to waive my right to appear
specially and challenge jurisdiction, I object to limited options offered in the UCD.
6.0 As indicated in paragraph 5.0, above, the UCD states I may subpoena witnesses. However,
whereas 7P2 did not reasonably identify herself, did not provide a physical location whereat she
could be found for personal service, and did not provide a mailing address or phone number, I
object to the sufficiency of 7P2s.
7.0 The UCD, except for reference to a right to subpoena witnesses, does not otherwise inform
of any right to initiate discovery; therefore, I object to the adequacy of this form by its apparent
limitation of discovery right.
7.1 The appellate courts have determined an unrepresented litigant should be advised of his
right to file counter-affidavits or other responsive material and alerted to the fact that his failure to
so respond might result in the entry of summary judgment against him. The appropriate rule
was set forth in Hudson v. Hardy, 134 U.S. App. D.C. 44, 412 F.2d 1091, 1094 (1968).
8.0 In the UCD, 7P2 alleged as follows: VEHICLE SPEED IN A 50 MPH 30 MPH ZONE, but also
indicated she changed speed 57 MPH.
8.1 I submit 7P2, by admitting she changed the allegation, may have invalidated the veracity of
her complaint and may have violated the laws set out in RCW 9.72.080, the perjury clause.
9.0 Except for the UCD, I have not been served any other documents and I object to sufficiency of
P72s UCD for purposes filling the requirement a case be started with a summons and
complaint or a Notice of Infraction.
10.0 CR 10(a) requires that [e]very pleading shall contain a caption setting forth the name of the
court, the title of the action, the file number if known to the person signing it, and an identification
as to the nature of the pleading or other paper. (emphasis added).
10.1 The UCD does not clearly show a title of the action. Nor does the nature of the action clearly
appear on its face. In Valley View Industrial Park v. City of Redmond, No. 50990-5,

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1987.WA.41940, *64, 65 (Wash. Feb. 12, 1987) (VersusLaw), in which a state agency argued
that certain letters denying benefits were final orders in a workers compensation dispute, the
court stated:
That is nonsense. IF EVERY LETTER FROM EVERY AGENCY OF STATE GOVERNMENT WHICH
ARRIVES ON A LAWYERS DESK MUST BE SCRUTINIZED TO DETERMINE IF IT CONTAINS AN
APPEALABLE ORDER, INDEED A BURDEN OF CONSIDERABLE MAGNITUDE WILL HAVE
BEEN CREATED BY FICTION. (emphasis added)
As such, I object to the UCDs sufficiency, as a pleading for purposes of establishing jurisdiction
with this Court.
10.2 I am uncertain of the nature and cause of this action: The infraction makes reference to a
Plaintiff and to a Defendant, thereby indicating this matter to be criminal in nature. As such, I
object to the sufficiency of 7p2s UCD, as a pleading for purposes of establishing jurisdiction
with this Court.
10.3 In her UDC, 7P2 cited a violation of RCW 46.61.400.16U; however, no such code appears
to exist; therefore, I object to the UCDs sufficiency, for purposes of establishing jurisdiction with
this Court.
11.0 In her UCD, 7P2 set the penalty at $138.00; however, IRLJ 6.2(d)(1) sets the monetary
damages for the alleged violation, if speed limit is 40 m.p.h. or less, and the speed over the limit
is determined to have been 16-20 m.p.h. over limit, at $70. If 7P2 intended to indicate the speed
she alleged I was actually moving at was 57 MPH, the established penalty would have been no
more than $120.
11.1 Though it is widely known both inferior and superior courts may establish local rules, it is
fact that a local rule which conflicts with a state rule must be amended or removed, or the court
having adopted the offending rule is in contempt of the Supreme Court. [Reference, for example,
ARLJ 7 (1998)].
11.2 The following show in the public record:
(1) Town of Rainier has a custom and policy of attempting to collect traffic penalties under the
circumstances set out herein;
(2) Penalties Town of Rainier attempts to collect often exceed the amounts allowed by the
Supreme Court;
(3) Town of Rainier, in attempt to collect excessive penalties, often uses threats of force and
imprisonment;
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demands for excessive penalties;


(5) Town of Rainier has made demands for money not owed hundreds of times in a ten year
period.
11.3 Based on the foregoing, Town of Rainier, and its agents, may have violated both state and
federal racketeering laws (Ref. chapter 9A.82 RCW and 18 USC sec 1961 through 1963 [RICO
Act]).
11.4 By using its authority to demand money not owed and using the U.S. Mails to do so, Town
of Rainier, and its agents, may have violated state and federal extortion laws. (Ref. 18 USC
876).
11.5 From the foregoing, it would appear either Town of Rainiers Municipal Court is in contempt
of the Supreme Court, for failing to remove or amend conflicting local court rules regarding
penalty amounts (ref. IRLJ 6.2), or 7P2 was acting well beyond her scope of authority and in an
arbitrary and capricious manner, when she made her money demands.
11.6 Based on the foregoing facts, this Court should dismiss Town of Rainiers claim.
12.0 Pursuant to IRLJ 2.1, complaints of traffic infractions must be filed on a form entitled Notice
of Traffic Infraction, as prescribed by the Administrator for the Courts. 7P2s UCD does not reflect
compliance with this rule.
12.1 If 7P2s UCD was purposed to be treated as a Notice of Infraction, I would be unreasonably
forced to guess at whether it is or is not the same as the mandatory Notice of Infraction
referenced in IRLJ 2.1.
12.2 Based on these facts, I object to the UCDs sufficiency, for purposes of establishing
jurisdiction with this Court.
13.0 CR 10 (a)(1) requires that, [i]n the complaint the title of the action shall include the names
of all parties. . . . The UCD does not clearly show the names of all the parties. For this reason I
also I object to its sufficiency, as a pleading, for purposes of establishing jurisdiction with this
Court.
13.1 For purposes of identifying herself, 7P2s provided only her initials, which are illegible, and
what appears to be an alpha-numeric identifier on the UCD. As such, I object to the sufficiency of
7P2s UCD, as a pleading for purposes of establishing jurisdiction with this Court.
14.0 CR 11 requires that each pleading, motion and legal memorandum set for the name of the
attorney of record signing the document as well as the attorneys address and Washington State
Bar Association membership number. . . . A document submitted by a party appearing pro se
must be signed and dated by the party and state the partys address.

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14.1 The person known as 7P2 failed to show an address whereat she or her principal could be
served. As such, I object to the sufficiency of 7P2s UCD, as a pleading for purposes of
establishing jurisdiction with this Court.
15.1 7P2s, in her UCD, does not give indication she is competent to testify as to matters related
therein, nor does she anywhere indicate the information it contained was based on her own
knowledge and experience. As such, I reserve, for appeal, my objection to the sufficiency of
7P2s UCD, as it may, otherwise, be used for purposes of establishing jurisdiction with this
Court.
16.0 Even if 7P2s UCD were, somehow, construed to be Notice of Infraction, she failed to
comply with the mandatory terms of IRLJ 2.2 (d), which requires such notices to be filed within
forty eight (48) hours. [See, also, CRLJ 2, CrRLJ 2.1 (d)(2), CrRLJ 4.1 (a)(1), CrRLJ
3.3(a)(c)(1)(4)(I) and case law rulings in Seattle v. Bonifacio, 127 Wn.2d 482, 900 P.2d 1105
(1995); Orting v. Ruschner, 66 Wn.(2d) 732-737 (1965); State v. Doolittle, 69 Wn.2d 744-751
(1966); and, State v. Dolman, 22 Wn. App. 917, 594 P.2d 450 (1979)), the specific context of
which would demand a dismissal with prejudice (CrRLJ 1.1)]
16.1 On July 2, A.D. 2001, I arranged for disinterested individual to go to Town of Rainiers city
hall to review the file on this matter, and to purchase certified copies its contents, along with a
certified copy of the case docket, or file index. Upon making his request, he was told no
documents had been filed.
16.2 Upon discovering the absence of any filings in the matter, the individual I sent to review the
file noted, in writing, the fact that no documents had been filed, then filed it with the Clerk under
that case/UCD number. A copy of that item is marked Defendants Exhibit No. 1, is attached
hereto and is incorporated in full herein by reference.
16.3 In addition to the foregoing, the individual I sent to the Clerks Office obtained a certified
copy of the docket for that case file, showing no items had been filed as of that date. A copy of the
Docket is marked Defendants Exhibit No. 2, is attached hereto and is incorporated in full
herein by reference.
16.4 Whereas the date of issue of UCD was 06 17 01, and no documents had been filed, as of
July 2, A.D. 2001, 7P2 and Town of Rainier had clearly failed to comply with the Forty-eight Rule
(IRLJ 2.2 (d)).
16.5 For the foregoing reasons, I object to the sufficiency of 7P2s UCD, as a pleading or for
otherwise establishing jurisdiction with this Court.
17.0 If 7P2s UCD could, somehow, be construed to be Notice of Infraction, to the extent that it
could be considered in the realm of a criminal matter, 7P2 failed to comply with the mandatory
terms of CrRLJ 2, which required the complaint to be signed by the prosecuting authority.

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17.1 State of Washington, its subdivisions and municipal corporations regularly argue that
corporations must be represented by an attorney. If this matter is being pursued on the behalf of
a municipal corporation (e.g., Rainier). Accordingly, 7P2 cannot prosecute this matter, unless
she is admitted to practice law.
17.2 7P2 appears to claim to be part of the executive, a Rainier police officer. If 7P2 is admitted
to practice law, such that she can prosecute this case, she also then claims to be an officer of
the court and part of the judiciary and has, single handedly, combined two branches of
government.
18.0 In the case of City of Seattle v. Bonifacio 127 Wn 2d 482, 902 P2d 1236 (1995), the court
well established the principals for treatment of infractions and such:
The issuance and receipt of a citation is not an insignificant intrusion on ones liberty. It is,
therefore, important that the rule requiring the filing of citations, CrRLJ 2.1(d), be observed. If
consequences do not flow from an officers failure to file a citation within the time allotted, many
persons who have been issued citations will be left in legal limbo, not knowing whether or not
the citation they have received will lead to proceedings in court. Under the trial courts decision,
greater fairness and efficiency is assured because persons who have been issued citations will
generally know within forty-eight hours of the issuance of a citation whether it will lead to court
proceedings. We do not mean to suggest that a prosecuting attorney or city attorney cannot, by
filing a complaint, amend a charge that was initially commenced by issuance of a citation.
Neither are we suggesting that a citation may not be filed more than forty-eight hours after it is
issued. The significant aspect of our holding is that the time for trial computation relates to the
date the citation is filed or forty-eight hours after its issuance, if it is not filed.
18.1 Also, State v Dolma (cite omitted) states, in part: JcrR 2.01(d) provides that the original of
a citation shall be filed with the clerk of the court. JcrR 2.01 (b)(4) provides in part that: Such
citation and notice when signed by the citing officer and filed with a court of competent
jurisdiction shall be deemed a lawful complaint for the purpose of initiating prosecuting of the
offense charged therein.
18.2 And Orting v. Rucshner (cites omitted) states, in part: These rules clearly require that the
ticket be filed as a complaint. In the absence of such a ticket or other appropriate complaint, a
court has no jurisdiction to proceed, and no authority is needed to pinpoint, demonstrate or
support such a basic requirement of due process. The fact that the traffic ticket was belatedly
admitted as an exhibit in the case certainly did not confer jurisdiction on the court. Furthermore,
jurisdiction over the subject matter was not waived by entering a plea, assuming that a plea was
entered in this case. The conclusion is inescapable that without a complaint on file there was no
jurisdiction for either the municipal court or the superior court to proceed in this matter. The
conviction is therefore void.
18.3 A speedy trial in criminal cases is not only a personal right protected by the federal and

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state constitutions (Const, art., 1, Section 22), it is also an objective in which the public has an
important interest, The United States Supreme Court has said that the right to a speedy trial
guaranteed under the sixth amendment to the United States Constitution, which was made
applicable to the states in Klopfer v. North Carolina, 386 U.S. 213, 18 L.Ed.2d 1, 87 S.Ct. 988
(1967), attaches when an indictment or information is filed or when the defendant is arrested
and held to answer, whichever occurs earlier. United States v. Marion, 404 U.S. 307, 30 L.Ed. 2d
468, 92 S.Ct. 455 (1971). This concept has been embodied in the ABA Standards Relating to
Speedy Trial 2.2. State v. Striker, 87 Wn.2d 870, 557 P.2d. 847 (Dec. 1976).
19.0 7P2, at the place for her signature on the UCD, referenced a REPORT WRITTEN ON THE
BACK OF THIS DOCUMENT and indicated it to be TRUE AND CORRECT; however, if the
referenced report does exist, 7P2 failed to provide it to me or file it with this Court, as of July 2,
2001.
19.1 Inasmuch as the report referred to on the back of the UCD contains no entries, I stipulate to
the contents thereof, or more accurately, the lack of contents thereof, as accurate, therefore
justifying dismissal of this matter.
19.2 Whereas no report appears to exist and it was not incorporated into 7P2s complaint, I
object to the fact that her UCD was not supported by either an affidavit or a valid declaration.
20.0 This honorable Court shall also take mandatory judicial notice [ER201 (d),(e) and (f) and
RCW 5.24.010], of RCW 46.64.010, which states in part:
Every traffic enforcement officer upon issuing a traffic citation to an alleged violator of any
provision of the motor vehicle laws of this state or of any traffic ordinance of any city or town shall
deposit the original or a copy of such traffic citation with a court having competent jurisdiction
over the alleged offense. (emphasis added)
and of RCW 46.64.010, which states:
[I]t shall be unlawful and official misconduct for any traffic enforcement officer or other officer or
public employee to dispose of a traffic citation or copies thereof or of the record of the issuance
of the same in a manner other than as required herein.
20.1 RCW 5.24.010, regarding judicial notice of the constitution and laws, requires that [a] court
shall take mandatory judicial notice pursuant to ER201 (d)(e) and (f) if requested by a party and
supplied with the necessary adjudicative facts and information. Every court of this state shall
take judicial notice of the constitution, common law, civil law, and statutes of every state, territory
and other jurisdiction of the United States. [1941 c 82 1; Rem. Supp. 1941 1278. ]
21.0 In Shea v. Okl, 537 P2d 417,418, the court stated: Regardless of the instrument, however,
whether constitution, statute, deed, contract, or whatever, courts not infrequently construe may
as shall or must to the end that justice may not be the slave of grammar.

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21.1 Also, CrRLJ 2.1 (d), (2) states [a] notice of infraction not filed within the time limits of this
section may be dismissed without prejudice but inversely the Citation must be dismissed with
prejudice if the 48 hour rule is violated by the officer. (emphasis added)
22.0 Municipal and district court judges frequently determine the term may as giving them
discretion to dismiss. Such interpretations are flawed in that they ignore decisional case law of
our state and do so outside of the scope of authority set out under CRLJ 1, which governs civil
procedure in courts of limited jurisdiction and which supersede all procedural statutes and rules
that otherwise conflict. Furthermore, those rules must be interpreted and supplemented in light
of the common law and the decisional law of this state, which shall not be construed to affect or
derogate from the constitutional rights of any defendant.
22.1 The intent of applicable rules provide an option for judges to dismiss with without prejudice.
They do not, however, exempt the Court from not dismissing and a dismissal is mandatory.
23.0 Pursuant to IRLJ 2.6 (a) and IRLJ 2.6 (e), this Court must dismiss, with prejudice, any
infraction not prosecuted within 120 days of issuance of a Notice of Infraction.
23.1 The cases of Seattle v. Bonifacio, 127 Wn.2d 482, 900 P.2d 1105 (1995); Orting v.
Ruschner, 66 Wn.(2d) 732-737 (1965); State v. Doolittle, 69 Wn.2d 744-751 (1966); and, State v.
Dolman, 22 Wn. App. 917, 594 P.2d 450 (1979)) address the speedy trial rule in infraction
cases. They established the time for computing speedy trial as running from the date the UCD
was issued and clearly impose upon courts a duty to dismiss, with prejudice (CrRLJ 1.1), any
infraction matter not timely brought to trial.
23.2 Excluding the day of issuance of the infraction, one hundred thirty-five days have passed
since the date of issuance of the UCD on October 30, 2001.
23.3 I have not, at any time, waived my speedy trial right. As such, except for a dismissal, I object
to any further proceedings in this matter and this Court should, on Defendants motion or of its
own volition (sue sponte) dismiss this action.
24.0 For the reasons set out above, this Court should dismiss Town of Rainiers and 7P2s
action, with prejudice. Criterion Ins. Co. v. State, 458 So. 2d. 22 (Fla 1st DCA 1984).
25.0 I reserve all rights and liberties, including the right to amend and supplement this
challenge to jurisdiction and motion to dismiss.
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of Washington that the foregoing is
true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief.
Signed at ___________, on the _____ day of July, 2001. _____________________
XXXXX XXXXXX, Defendant

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I certainly hope you consider a shortwave station for your new program . With shortwave there are costs
exceding cash available, I used to listen to American Indepedence Hour some time ago and found it to
be most excellant. If financial support is necessary it would be willing to support it in a 20 dollar a month
type contribution.Computer access is difficult for me.
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Peter,
@ Computer access is difficult for me.
Please post a shipping address, even a friends & you will have a computer on the way. courtesy of
another friend. He does not want his e-mail address known tho.
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Greetings, Jim,
Im sorry I missed your question. It took me awhile to find it.
You asked, Ok DEAR Brother, what about this? > And after three days and an half the Spirit of
life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them
which saw them..Where are these feet located, IF the THEM & THEY are the Old & New
Testaments? Where are these feet? AND if they have feet, they, I would think have legs too,&,
well, you get my drift. I know you do. (Revelations 11)
It certainly sounds like the Two Witnesses are humans. Plus, the people showed great
disrespect by allowing their dead bodies to lay out upon the Citys (Roman by Geneva Bible)
street for 3 and a half days. More evidence that the Witnesses are human.
For my theory and belief, that the Two Witnesses are the old and new Testaments, to be true;
then the scriptures must be using an analogy to describe the old and new Testaments as
being the Two Witnesses.

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We must remember that John is describing things in the future, and that God uses parables for
our seeking Him out for our approval. Plus, John tells us (future generations) that once the Two
had finished their testimony, their were killed. Remember, the new and old Testaments were
not yet created, because Johns Revelations is part of the new Testament and was not yet
included with all other Books of the new Testament. So, how could it be present for its death in a
future time.
Later we read in Revelations 13 about the beast giving out the mark of the beast, which I
believe to be the monetary system that we live under today. This is also another analogy. You
and I know the danger of usury, which is forbidden by commandment, so how is it that most of
the churches have accepted it? You see, disregard (or death) of the scriptures grow daily and
continue. Even the church destroys the Law.
I hope this has helped.
Blessings, Yartap.

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Regarding the right of inquiry, there is a mountain of case law that establishes an unrepresented
litigants pleadings, motions and things are to be liberally construed. As such, the lower court would be
compelled to treat your inquiry as a Request for Production of Documents, a Request for Admissions
and Denials or as Interrogatories.
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@ >..compelled.
Compelled ??? In essence, my experiences have been, they are not compelled to do anything
except whatever turns their crank. They do what ever they want to. A single bottom rung judge
overrules every higher & up to & including the Final courts Judgment by simply saying, Well, I
disagree,30 days, etc.. Then the next trial de novo judge agrees with that lower court. Next step
up,the 3 appeals court judges agree that the trial de novo Judge acted without authority & his order
is invalid but because of the trial de novo judges CONTEMPT POWER the defendant rightly was
punished for not obeying the made without authority invalid order. They have all the bases covered
now, it seems. They are like a family,literally. Bottom rung is the son, next up is the daddy, next up,
grandaddy, then the great granddaddys to finally the GREAT GREAT Grand pops & moms who add
insult to the injury by saying: Our judgement is not final because its right or wrong, but it is right

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because its final


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January 23, 2014 at 3:14 PM

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When I started leaving out the patriot mumbo jumbo, I started winning. For example, if Im going
to challenge jurisdiction, I dont need to raise flag by challenging the gold fringed flag.
When I helped a land owner, I told him, up front, they would continue to break the rules, but when
we got done, theyd be breaking them in his favor. In the end, the gave him permits to build on
his five, seven acre lots, but only charged him for one.
Over time, Ive improved my writings. I look at my early stuff and see all sorts of patriot theory.
Later, such as when I won custody of my daughter, all that was absent from my motions and
things.
We all know we can take on only so many battles. If youre going to lose, why rush in? Biblical
characters knew to not volunteer needlessly (e.g., [t]ell them youre my sister.). Sometimes, it
really is more important to win than to be right.
Add to the foregoing, many things espoused by the patriot community are nothing more than
theory. Take the liens processes. I remember when Hartford introduced them (and when laws
were changed to combat them). Since then, I see others introduce the same, after they rebrand it
and explain how the others did it wrong. Or take the strawman. Its built on shreds of truth and it
keeps resurfacing. Always, the guys before were just doing it wrong.
When friends abandoned all that and used the systems rules, they won.
The point of this is, compare your work to others. Is the grammar and spelling good? Does it
have a professional ring, or what the system wants to portray as quackery? Law is all smoke
and mirrors and when I learned to build smoldering fires, and had enough mirrors of my own,
things started changing. My early writings got my butt kicked. My later ones often killed actions
before they ever made it to court.
One of the hardest thing to learn is, being able to step back from your own case and look at it
dispassionately. Like a cut throat attorney, treat it as just business, with only one rule: win
When they dont know, with certainty, how things are going to go for them, they change their
course. For example, read many cases and youll say they won. When it gets to the higher
court, that court says there were no facts in evidence supporting the appellants case. What that
means is, no record for appeal was made. Things were tossed in the file, but not introduced at

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trial and moved into evidence.


Little things can make a difference. For example, a district issued a Failure to Appear warrant
against me about a decade back. First, I bought a certified copy of the docket, or index of the
case, if you prefer. There was no reference to an affidavit of service. Next, I demanded proof of
service of the demand I appear [several years down the road]. The clerk admitted there was
none and even went so far as to say they didnt need to give notice, because they gave it YEARS
before. She was kind enough to actually write this on the docket, then sell me a certified copy of
that docket too. How do you suppose that went for them? (hint- not well, the court failed to obtain
jurisdiction, so there went the immunity
SIDE NOTE ON HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS: I was walking across the courtyard one day when I
met the prosecutor. I told him I understood he was working on prosecution of a friend for the
unlawful practice of law. Then I reminded him we had court on Friday and Id probably prevail on
that one, but if he dropped the one on my friend Id strike mine. All he said was okay and
walked away. I went over and struck my case and that was the end of it.

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@ patriot mumbo jumbo, ..
I do not call,still with standing, never overturned/overruled State Supreme & Final Supreme Court
judgments patriot mumbo jumbo.
Consider this for the sake of trying to make myself clear. Lets say I am a Magistrate. You present
State & Final Supreme Court Judgments proving you are right. I simply say, I disagree. 30 days. Also
consider this. You are alone. You do not have one single solitary soul to help in any way in anything
and I, the magistrate know this. So does ALL the rest of your oppressors. Do you think this makes a
difference? I DO .Also, Your trial de novo Judge next up the ladder is my boyfriend. Hes the
sweetest thing on earth, to me Baliff, please remove dejure from my courtroom. NEXT !!
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dejure,
my comment re: .Also, Your trial de novo Judge next up the ladder is my boyfriend. Hes the
sweetest thing on earth..
Of course very few people know this because were still closet lovers. We havent come out of

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the closet yet. We will someday, when the time is right. We have friends that are coast to coast
newscasters that have come out of the closet, but their position is not as sensitive as ours Most
people are not calloused enough YET to welcome us into their hearts, just yet, but we will be
welcome there, in their hearts, sooner or later.
dejure do you know that some people are actually going to say now they have proof that I am a
homo. they are the deep thinkers, at least they think they are.

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January 23, 2014 at 9:35 PM

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As I read your closet lover lines and such, I found myself on the border of laughing. Your deep
thinker comment pushed me over the edge. I understood the point you were trying to make, but
found humor in your means.
Sadly, what you are point to is often true. I have seen it first hand. However, it does no happen on
each occasion we are hauled before the priest in black associated with, in WA, the Temple of
Justice.
I consider patriot mubo jumbo to be all that cannot be supported in the laws of men. If it is
supported in case law, its not mumbo jumbo. When you find yourself in their courts, you have to
play by their rules. Ive seen several patriot schemes over the years and Ive seen some of them
come around couple times. Sometimes they try to put new dressing on it.
Though much of the mumbo jumbo is routed in fact, there is, more often than not, a lot of
nonsense attached. For example, I went to one of Hartford Vandykes seminars a couple
decades back. The stuff he promoted offered those he promoted it to hope. However, he failed to
give any cites supporting any of it. In the end, he and people using his work went to jail for
cashing in on the liens.
Ive seen people who say you cannot go into the system, behind the bar and so forth. Often, they
point to religious reasons. However, Jesus dealt with the same system in his time.
The point I am trying to make can best be understood by going back in time and to the story of
the Scarlet Pimpernel, or Percy Blakeney, if you prefer. I have a deep respect for the character,
because he understood he could stand and die in one battle on a principal, or win a thousand,
and, wisely chose the latter. The Bible holds examples of not volunteering information the enemy
could use against you. This could mean not disclosing your disdain for Satans system or other
things that could cause you to become a target for being made into an example.
Im not picking on anyone. Im just saying, if you are doing something and it isnt working, it may
be time to try something different. I got trashed by court commissioners and judges like you
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accountable for even one, even though the fact clearly showed it should have. I didnt like it
either, so I kept learning. I became more fussy about using spell check and making sure
punctuation was correct. As I moved ahead in my ability to form documents, court results started
changing. Insulting though it might be, I could not count the time an attorney representing the
other side accused me of being a Bar member and not disclosing it.
On prejudice:
In was in court one day on a suit I started against the county I lived in. The prosecutor in charge
of civil matters represented the county, of course. The judge ruled in his favor, but I objected and
cited an applicable court rule. The judge left the bench and was gone nearly ten minutes. He
came back with the rules in hand and admitted I was correct, then withdrew his ruling and ruled
in my favor. Minutes passed and he ruled in the prosecutors favor again. Again, I cited a court
rule countering a ruling in favor of the prosecution. The judge looked through his book for a
moment, paused, then said he had to withdraw his ruling again and rule in my favor, again.
Several minutes more passed and, surprise, the judge ruled against me a third time. For a third
time, I cited a court rule and he went to his book again. He then sat back in his chair, gave an
exasperated look and rambled about his having wasted a lot of the courts time, before
withdrawing that ruling to and ruling in my favor.
This was about being prepared. I had reviewed the rules. In no instance did the prosecutor give
a cite supporting his claims, but the judge presumed in his favor. This, of course, was highly
improper, since this was a suit an nothing allowed the judge to presume in the countys favor. My
HUGE mistake was not setting the record with the fact of his obvious prejudice, since, for
purposes of law, he and I were equals and ruling in the prosecutors favor, then having to
withdraw each ruling showed a clear prejudice.
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On prejudice, we are often told we only get to file one Affidavit of Prejudice. This is untrue. Were it
otherwise, that boyfriend still hiding in the closet could not be prejudiced from the case. For that
reason, they have an obligation to tell us, well in advance, who the trying judge it (I lost the
blasted cite for that).

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January 23, 2014 at 7:53 PM

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@ Regarding the right of inquiry, there is a mountain of case law that establishes an
unrepresented litigants pleadings, motions and things are to be liberally construed
TRUE, but try convincing someone with an IQ of 60 what this means while hes spittin his chawn
baccer in his spittoon.

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dejure,
I clicked on the link you provided showing up in red letters & what you see below is what came up
with a place for writing you a message. Now, if I go to my e-mail page to send you a message, will
the e-mail address showing below work? I dont understand why the second half of your e-mail
address is as showing. Just tell me if what is showing below will get my message through to you
imaginationuninc@gmail.com
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dejure,
This is strange. My message showed up somewhat different than it did before I sent it.There
were 2 e mail addresses & all in black letters. Now after it posts, there is ONE e mail address &
in red letters. Maybe if you click on it, it might come up the way it did for me & then you will see
what I am trying to say. Anyway, I will try to send you a message,via E mail

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Your signature on any corporate agreement is only as proof of liability for the stawman.He is the party to
the real contract.He already signed it with his feet at the time of birth.
STOP using that strawman ID and do not sign anything with that strawman on it.
You as a new born baby=strawman.
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Yartap,
First,dear brother, you answered this on the wrong thread. 2nd, you still understand some of my
questions to be questions asking you to explain the meaning to me as tho I do not understand, WHEN
in reality, my question(s) are for the purpose of food for thought for YOU to consider. God created

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MAN, not a HUMAN I cannot accept your theory Its close to contradicting yourself. If we proceed, or
SHARE,as you call it re:this particular, lets do it on the WJJD thread, ok ?
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Greetings, Jim.
I understand, Ill meet you there (WWJD).
Blessings, Yartap.
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Yartap, see ya lator gator. over there. THANKS !!!

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dejure, Shalom,
I really wanted to start this message out by saying, I love you, but I thought, no, I am in enough trouble.
Its the kind of love like I have for my parents. I try to love My friend Jesus too, but I guess its more like lip
service than the walking kind.I am trying to let my talk walk. I truly am
@ This was about being prepared.
Yes.I understand. Apparently I am still weak in this area even after years of study. I am a fan of people
like Justice James Wilson,(Chisholm v. Georgia) Justice Joseph Story etc. (Storys commentaries) &
now I am a fan of yours,dejure.
@ I had reviewed the rules. In no instance did the prosecutor give a cite supporting his claims, but the
judge presumed in his favor.
WHAT !!! NO WAY !!!THE JUDGE PRESUMED IN HIS FAVOR??!! OH NO !! Now you have gone to far,
dejure. The Judge presumed in his favor? Thats unrealistic. Please tell me you are just joking. Oh
thats ok, I know you were just kidding.

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dejure,I sent you a message earlier about a physical address. PLEASE respond to that message in
some manner. I dont really like to send messages like that over the internet, but I dont know how to do
otherwise.under these conditions.
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First, Id use the Washington Public Records Act, directed at DOL, for:
1) each notice given you regarding the suspension.
2) Each hearing had on the suspension
3) A documents on which the suspension was based.
4) Your last known address on their records
5) Documents the agency looks to for procedures when individuals do not have a place of
housekeeping, such as individuals who live out of their cars, on various park benches and so forth.
For reference, chapter 42.56 RCW (the laws which were previously found under chapter 42.17 RCW) is
the codification of Washingtons Public Records Act [PRA], also known as the Public Disclosure Act
[PDA]. If you are not familiar with it, become familiar. It is one of the most powerful tools citizens have.
With it, you not only can review records, you can build an administrative record (and so on), which is
what the higher courts will rely on when a matter is moved before them.
The PRA, at RCW 42.56.070(6), states, [b]efore any public records can be used to adversely affect
someone, it must be indexed, or you must have received notice of it. From that, the fun can begin. DOL
often suspends licenses based on nothing more than the word of some clerk. However, pursuant to the
PRA, you have the right to see records, unless exempted from disclosure by law. Even then, they must
cite the exemption, in writing, and tell you how it applies. Going down that road, you have the right to see:
6) The document relied on, from a court of law, to suspend your license.
Years ago, DOL said they were suspending my license. Problem was, I hadnt had one for over a
decade. As such, I reviewed the codified statutes to see what was required to obtain a license. What
showed was: 1) Pay a fee, take a written test, take a driving test, take a photo, sign the license (hmmm,
didnt we just have a bunch of posts on contracts?) )
I was excited and told them so in my writing (I also incorporate a PDA records request into each
correspondence with an agency to build a record agencies are required to reply within five days, or you
can start a simple show cause action to receive a penalty of up to $100/day for each document
erroneously withheld) . Specifically, I stated I loved the idea of a free license, and without taking tests
and things. HOWEVER, I needed to see the documents wherein could be found the authority of DOL to
waive the mandatory requirements established by the legislature. I also sought the record they were

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relying on to suspend the license they were going to issue me.


As I noted before, they tried to drag the Attorney General in on this one, but he wrote us both back,
informing DOL hed have nothing to do with it. Can you imagine what would happen if YOU were to seek
records:
7) that would allow you to determine how many times, in the last five years, DOL has taken it upon
itself to rewrite law and suspend licensing requirements, such as testing and so forth, to issue
licenses, just so they could suspend it?
Heres a hint: Sometime you have to take the back door in. Maybe they didnt try to issue you a license
so they could suspend it. But do you think they want it disclosed they are making their own laws up as
they go along? Specifically, issuing free licenses just to be able to suspend them?
NOW, if the suspension is for non-payment of a fine, you need to put together an Affidavit of Indigence
stating you cannot pay the money.
As to addresses, it would take too much time for me to dig up the cites, but case law makes clear you
can, literally, use a park bench as your address.
One thing that has to be overcome is the matter of keeping your address up do date, but that could be
fun. After all, youre a rover and that would require a change nightly. This sets up a potential
discrimination suit.
Meanwhile, it would be a good idea to come up with something. I know many who use General Delivery.
Just as many Postal employees ignorantly claim a ZIP is mandatory, many will claim you cant use
General Delivery long term. However, that is not true and you can drag them before the Postmaster
General for denying you mail delivery when you are without a home (similarly, the Domestic Mail
Manuals [DMM] state ZIP Codes are voluntary but thats another issue for another day). Just for
reference, I know several people who have used General Delivery for nearly three decades, and they
own their own property. Of course, they do, from time to time, have to educate a new Postmaster.
If DOL cannot produce documents, you can DEMAND and administrative hearing. When doing so, I
would incorporate a Motion to Reinstate License for Failure to Produce Authority to Suspend.
Act just like you are going to court. Copy the pattern of someone elses motion. It doesnt have to be
perfect, but do as good a job as you can.
________________________________
To Dejure, Wa. DOL cancelled my Drivers License nearly 1 year ago without my knowledge until A police
license scanner picked me out at an intersection. DOL claims I need to sumit a residential address
which I dont have. Yet I own and operate 2 business in Washington, pay taxes, vote etc., using a pony
express mail box. I travel the west coast extensively and don,t have a fixed residence to sleep other than
friends, family and hotels and a estranged wife. DOL supervisor Insisted they need to know where I

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sleep, Iam a vagabond. Want to shut them down and get my license back so I can earn a living, pay
taxes to the same creeps who are without souls. Bill
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While it is true all the governments of men are no more solid than any concept, those who animate the
system remain quite real and command power.
Since early times, the likes of them have banded together to demand earthly government, then to
overthrow it and set in place one favorable to them. As the Bible points out, that system lies under the
power of the great deceiver.
On creators and the created, the Public Fool System (perhaps I spelled that wrong, or not) does a great
job of convincing us all is backward (hmm, the Bible talks of that too (right will be wrong.)). It does this
even as it states the obvious truth. Specifically, the impression is given we have a central government.
In truth, Dejure, JM and others from the past got together and said, each of us is good at throwing dirt
clods, but if we banded together, wed be better and could hold off more bad guys. So we decided to,
each, reach into our basket of individual rights, pull out a SMALL piece, and drop that into another
basket. Even though the whole of new basket might be better than the sum of the parts, it remained less
than that which each individual yet had. We called this new basket The State of Washington, or The
State of California and it was, in and of itself, a country.
Next, we came to the realization we could, again, combine with others to defend ourselves. However,
this time, it was from that smaller basket of rights we donated, not from those rights we retained. As
such, we remained the ultimate power and the new power, which we placed in a ten mile square area,
was bound and left inferior to its creators. To this day, it exists at the pleasure of those who created it.
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Great read Mr. Adask, I like the way your mind works. Its fun to play in the legal system but we all know it
is just a fiction created by man right? There is no reality to it other than what we consent to give it. It is a
challenge to survive with in the []
@ How can an entity created by man be superior to man?
Easy. But hard to figure out. If we could have a life span of 200 years instead of 70 we would know the
who,what,when,why,where of it. Give me a job, I hire two more, theres 3 of us v. 1 You are really at our
mercy if we 3 handle it right,e.g. how to make the river rise above its source like in an illusion.
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dejure,
@ >In truth, Dejure, JM and others from the past got together and said, each of us is good at
throwing dirt clods,.
IF IF, I, am the JM, well I cannot be the above mentioned JM because I have been on my own. I have
not gotten together with anyone OR any group. I have tried, but I was a misfit. However I made that
determination. Being on this blog is the ONLY & closest thing Im involved in as far as getting
together with anyone or group. And you know what, I am still alone but I am not lonely. Did you,
dejure, get my message to you re: a physical address & my reason for requesting same?? Once
again, will you respond in some way? Maybe you have responded. I cannot see the forest for the
trees in some things either.
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P.S. I hope my wanting to freely give back to you is not throwing another dirt clod. I was looking at
this from the understanding of, freely I received & it is my duty to freely give. I was & still am trying to
show my gratitude to you, dejure, for that which you have shared freely. Just saying thank you, is lip
service But I will say thank you, from my heart, heart service is a little better than lip service, I guess.
Heck I dont know. Sometimes our best is not quite good enough. All I can do is try & trust & hope.
But, I do know this, I can hope in one hand & do-do in the other & I know which one will get full first
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J.M., your offer to give back, whatever form that might take, is appreciated.
For years I helped others and lived like a pauper for it. I watched people drive up to my house in
nice cars and knew they would be returning to nice homes they owned (all or in part). Many of
them spent thousands on the services of a Bar member, but would balk at paying even a few
hundred for help that actually won their cases.
I wonder that many of the successful people I helped back then were not bright enough to figure
out I could not be there for them in the future if I couldnt earn enough to pay the electric (Often, it
was only through my knowledge of administrative law I was able to keep it on).
Interestingly, it was usually those with the least who tried to give the most.

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Repeatedly, Ive been told I was a bit different. One of my quirks was notes, I used to joke that I
had notes about my notes (okay, it wasnt a joke). Too, though I had enough going on it was not
always evident, I was fanatical about organization. Those characteristics carried over to my
computer habits (I started working for the feds in computer repair back around 70).
Subsequently, I am a fanatic about organizing folders and subfolders.
Ive written thousands of pages and stolen several times as many from other sources. They are
on my drive(s) in PDF, doc files, text files, WordPerfect files, a few Lotus files (back to text again)
and even some WordStar files. They are stored on a folder called Law, Cites, Forms & FYIs.
Under that folder are subfolders like Case Law, Books and Manuals, and Topcial.
If you go into the Topical folder, for example, you will find the alphabet. The reason is simple, the
files and folders were growing to into a list to long to deal with, so anything that started with a
went under A.
So, if you wanted to look up attorney, affidavit, alounge or some other word starting with that
letter, you, naturally clicked on the A folder and scrolled down until you found what you wanted.
I also tried to put See Attorney in other locations, where appropriate, to remind someone
researching they could find more relative information there.
My mentor, a fellow who won two grand jury cases against the flower people said he thought he
could run a case just off the contents of the files.
When I last printed the index, over ten years ago, that, alone, was 366 pages.
Because of my location, a large percentage of the files relate to Washington law, but there is
also much of the original patriot info, a bit about Story, federalist, federalist and antifederalist
papers, axioms of law and on and on. It used to take a few DVDs to get it all on, but now, a
simple flash drive will handle it.
The books and manuals section ranges from county stuff to federal stuff and would cost around
10k to replace. It even contains my back up copy of things like Making and Meeting
Objections, judges manuals (civil and criminal for superior and inferior courts).
Of course, many of my documents are on the drive, some of which are in use by agencies of WA.
I rarely update it anymore because I decided to pursue my own interests. Sadly, I know of no one
who has or will step in to take my place, unless you count [even more comprehensive and more
searchable web sites like] VersusLaw, Westlaw or Lexis Law. Sadly, most were too ignorant to
know what they were being given (an entire law library), or they let their greed take priority.
The point of all this is, if you are interested in a flash drive containing all this information, all I ask
is you send at least a 4 gig drive and a few bucks for postage (I just sent one out in an envelope,

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but the fellow had to track it down because the Post Office trashed the envelope, so a tiny pouch
might be a better bet) to the address Ill provide via direct email: imaginationuninc@gmail.com
Just for reference, I live in a small community in Eastern Washington, about an hour, regardless
which direction you go, from civilization. So Post Office runs for picking up shipping goods out is
a hit and miss situation.

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dejure,
@ Interestingly, it was usually those with the least who tried to give the most.
I, myself, the way its figured today, am 6,000 below the poverty level.
@ I wonder that many of the successful people I helped back then were not bright enough . Greedy
people only see what they can GET. I dont think they even know there is a good 4 letter word call GIVE.
@ but now, a simple flash drive will handle it.
Its obvious you know a lot about computers. I only know how to turn it on & off. My files,etc were pasted
all over the walls. Years later after I purchased my 1st computer, I had everything from A 2 Z (that I was
aware of) on floppy disks, about 50 of them. Some things I memorized, but darn it I did not remember
the source but thats because I never tried to memorize the source. I am trying to find & have been for
several days, the case where the Court said, Federal reserve notes are not dollars and are not money.
Somebody asked me if those words were dicta or dictum. I said, I dont know, but I believe those words
are true. Senseless to say anymore on how the rest of the conversation went. BUT, aint no way a note
is a dollar. It may be a promise to pay a dollar or owe a dollar. Anyway Hmmmm. Sorry for the ramblin I
admit I ramble a lot, but thats because Im a ramblin man. When they persecute you in one place move
it on over to another,& on & on.
I clicked on your earlier link from another one of you messages & a web page did come up that had
many selections on woodworking, etc. I also saw where you commented about a video you watched. Do
you have a link for that video you can provide? If so.will you?
As far as your offer re: a few bucks, I want to send you a few bucks monthly but I cannot accept your flash
drive material.I dont even know what a flash drive is, much less how to use one. Also, I hope you will
not throw me away when I tell you I only have a 6th grade education. But, I think I have a pretty good
Christian education. I want to share with you for what you have already shared on this blog. It is really
difficult to exchange thoughts,etc.via the internet,like this,at least for me.I really dont like to discuss
these kind of things publicly. But let me say, IF there is still no statute of limitations re:fraud, & with your
help we both can be millionaires again. I honestly dont care if I am a millionaire anymore. It will be
worth zillions for me to live to see the oppressors & thieves just get their come up pance.
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January 24, 2014 at 9:15 PM

I dont know what the case is, off the top of my head, but focus on the federal reserve NOTE part. A
note, is a note. Might be something in here: What Is Money? 1. A promissory note is a written
promise by one person to pay to another or to bearer a fixed sum of money. See: Davis v. Spencer,
267 Ill 57; 107 NE 826; Jencks v. Rice, 119 Iowa 451; Cherry v. Sprague, 187 Mass 113. 2. As a
decree by a court of the U.S. for the payment of money can be made only for the payment of so many
dollars of some specie of money that is made lawful money by a statute of the U.S., it follows that a
recovery upon such a promissory note or contract must be for some dollars in gold and silver coins.
See: The Edith, D.C. N.Y. (1875), 5 Ben. 144, 8 Fed. Cases 4,281; Forbes v. Murray, D.C. N.Y. (1869),
3 Ben. 497, 9 Fed. Cases 4,928. 3. The general rule is that a final judgment for money must specify
the amount awarded. See: U.S. v. F. & M. Shaefer Brewing, 356 US 227; 45 Am Jur 2d 81. 4. An act
by the legislature of Alabama, September 30, 1920, page 36, providing when a check is presented
or forwarded to the payee bank for payment, it may at its option pay or remit the same in money or in
exchange drawn on its reserves. However, it is unconstitutional and void as an attempt by the state
to make a class of debts payable at the option of the debtor in something other than gold and silver
coin. See: Capitol Grain and Feed Co v. Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, D.C. Ga. (1925), 3 F.2d
614, 269 US 589, 70 L Ed 427. What your government thinks about using gold and silver as money.
_______________ Federal statutes indicate that taxes assessed or levied in anything other than
legal tender are unlawful, to wit: Title 31, United States Code, Section 3124 states in part: Section
3124. Exemption from taxation (a) Stocks and obligations of the United States Government are
exempt from taxation by a State or political subdivision of a State. The exemption applies to each
form of taxation that would require the obligation, the interest on the obligation, or both, to be
considered in computing a tax. Title 18, United States Code, Section 8 states: Section 8.
Obligation or other security of the United States defined The term obligation or other security of the
United States includes all bonds certificates of indebtedness, national bank currency, Federal
Reserve notes, Federal Reserve bank notes, coupons, United States notes, Treasury notes, gold
certificates, silver certificates, fractional notes, certificates of deposit, bills, checks, or drafts for
money, drawn by or upon authorized officers of the United States, stamps and other representatives
of value, of whatever denomination, issued. (Emphasis Added) 1792 Mint and Coinage Act which
has NEVER been repealed. ____________________ Lawful money of the United States is Gold or
Silver Coin. 12 USC 152 says the LAWFUL money of the United States is gold and silver coin. 31
USC 371 says the money of account of the United States shall be expressed in dollars. According to
the Bland-Allison Act of 1878, the Coinage Act of 1837, the Coinage Act of 1834, and the Coinage Act
of 1792, a dollar is at least 371.25 grains or point seven seven eight (.778) ounces of silver, and it
STILL is. __________________________________ DEBTS ARE NOT A LEGAL TENDER AS
STATED BY NO NOTHING ROB NOBODY. See Dennis v. Moses, supra.
______________________________________ In the case of Stanek v. White, 172 Minn. 390, 215
H.W. 784, the court explained the legal distinction between the words payment and discharge:
There is a distinction between a `debt discharged and a `debt paid. When discharged the debt still
exists though divested of its character as a legal obligation during the operation of the discharge.
Something of the original vitality of the debt continues to exist, which may be transferred, even
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something which may be a consideration for a new promise to pay, so as to make an otherwise
worthless promise a legal obligation, makes it the subject of transfer by assignment.
__________________________________ INDEX OF AUTHORITIES for SUPPORTING
MEMORANDUM ON MONEY United States Constitution, Article 6.1 Cook v.
Moffat & Curtis, 5 HOW (46US) 295, 12 L Ed 159..1 People ex rel Happell v. Sischo, 23
Cal 2d 478, 144 Pac 2d 7851 In re Lindquists Estate, 25 Cal 2d 697, 154 Pac 2d 879, revg
(Call App), 144 Pac 2d 438.1 Ritchie v. Johnson, 158 Kan 103,
l44 Pac 2d 9251 People ex rel Woll v. Graber, 394 Ill 362, 68 NE 2d
750.1 Walz v. Lavelle, (Ohio St.), 70 NE 2d 7501 Norris v.
Baltimore, 192 A 531..1 State v. Sutton, 63 Minn 147, 65 NW 262, 30
LRS 630, 56 Am St 4591 Lindberg v. Johnson, 93 Minn 267, 101 NW 74.1
Hepburn v. Griswald, 8 Wall 611,613, 615, 616, 634..1,5,9,15,27,30,32,33,38 Thayer v. Hedges, 22
Ind 296, 3001,2,9 Hamilton, #78, Federalist, p.
467..2 Justice Green, In re Dorsey, 7 Porter (Ala) 293, 377, 378 (1838)
.2 16 Am Jur 2d Section 226..2 16 Am Jur 2d Section
2562,3 Marbury v. Madison, 1 Cr 137, L Ed 60 (1803)
3 Ex Parte Siebold, 100 US 371, L Ed 7173
Northern Securities Co. v. U.S., 193 US 197, 48 L Ed 679, 24 SCR 4363 In re Opinions of the
Justices, 226 Ala 565, 148 So 107.3 16 Am Jur 2d Section
2573,4 Summer v. Beeler, 50 Ind
341.4 Kelly v. Bemis, 70 Mass
834 Titus v. Poland Coal Co., 275 Pa 431, 119 A
5404 Nass v. Maxwell (Tex Civ App) 32 SW 561.4 Flemming
v. South Carolina Electric & Gas Co., (CA 4 SC), 239 F 2d 277.4 Board of Highway Cornrs v.
Bloomington, 253 Ill 164, 97 NE 280..4 Fisher v. McGirr, 67 Mass
1.4 Saratoga State Waters Corp. v. Pratt, 227 NY 429, 125 NE
834..4 16 Am Jur 2d Section 178..4 State ex rel Nuveen
v. Greer, 88 Fla 249, 102 So 739, 37 ALR 12984 United States Constitution, Article
5.4 United States Constitution, Article 1, Sections 8 & 10..4
United States Constitution, 9th & 10th Amendments.5 2 Story on the Constitution,
142, Sec. 12535 McCullough v. Maryland, 4 Wheat
4215 Kansas v. Colorado, 206 US 46, (1907)
..5,6 Ogden v. Sanders, 12 Wheat 212, 288, 3346,11b
Pollock v. Farmers Loan & Trust Co., 157 US 429, 558.6,7 Knowlton v. Moore, 178 US
41, 95.6,7 Sturges v. Crowninshield, 4 Wheat 122,
206..7 Bancrofts History of the Formation of the Constitution, 2 Vol 134, 137
7 Stewart v. Kahn, 11 Wall (78US) 493, 504.7 4 Websters Works,
271.8 Juilliard v. Greenman, 110 US 421, 463-465, 4 S Ct 122,
28 L Ed 204 8,9,17,18,23,24,28,29,33,34,36,38 Mr. Webster,
18309,10 Craig v. Missouri, 4 Peters 408,
433,43410,11,44,45,46 Lane County v. Oregon, 7 Wall 71 (1868)
..11,11a City of Camden v. Allen, 2 Dutcher 398 (1857).11
Perry v. Washburn, 20 California 350.11 1 Parsons on Contracts,

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7..11a Hagar v. Reclamation District No. 108, 111 US 701, 706,


707.11a Title 31 USC Section 392.12,45 Title 31 USC
Section 311.12,13 Title 31 USC Section
371.13 People v. Penn (1930), 340 Ill 535, 173 NE
86.13 Webber v. American Union Bank (1926), 128 Misc 123, 217 NYS 833, revd
on other grounds, 221 App Div 94, 222 NYS 359.13 Legal Tender Cases (1871), 79 US
457, 20 L Ed 28713 ii Title 31 USC Section
31413 Title 31 USC Section
82113,14,37 Title 31 CFR Part 55, 1981 Code of Federal
Regulations14,37 United States Coinage Acts, 1792 190014
Bland Allison Act of February 28, 1878, 20 Statutes 2514 Bank Holding Company Act,
PL 91-607, United States Code, Congressional and Administrative News, Vol 3, P. 5536,
5545.14 54 Am Jur 2d Money Sections 1,4,6,11,12,14,15,17,18
15,16,17,18,36 Paul v. Ball, 31Tex 10..15,36 Kennedy v. Briere,
45 Tex 30515,36 Nortz v. United States, 294 US 317, 79 L Ed 907, 55
S Ct 428,95 ALR 1346.15 United States v. Van Auken, 96 US 366, 24 L Ed 852.15,16
Devenney v. Devenney, 74 Ohio St 96, 77 NE 688..16 36 ALR
1358.16 Woodruff v. Mississippi, 162 US 291, 40 L Ed
973, 16 S Ct 820..16 Klauber v. Biggerstaff, 47 Wis 551, 3 NW 357..16,35
Howe v. Hartness, 11 Ohio St 449..16 Westfall v. Braley, 10 Ohio St
188..16 United States Constitution, Fourteenth
Amendment17 Norman v. Baltimore & O.R. Co., 265 NY 37, 191 NE 726, 92 ALR
1523, affd 294 US 240, 79 L Ed 885, 55 S Ct 407, 95 ALR 135217 Title 31 USC Section
73117 PL 95-147, Section 4(c), 91 Stat.
1229.17 United States v. Ballard, 14 Wall (US) 457, 20 L Ed
845..18 Veazie Bank v. Fenno, 8 Wall 533, 19 L Ed 482.18 Title 31
USC Section 73118 Title 31 USC Section
15219,36 Pl Exh A, p.
1619 Blacks Law Dictionary: Definition of a
Note..19 Title 12 USC Section 41119,20 HJR
192, June 5, 193320 Title 31 USC Sections 443, 463, &
408a.21 Title 31 USC Section
315b..22 PL 93-374, August 14,
1974.22 Milam v. United States, 524 F 2d 629 (1974)
23 Fulton Bank v. Phoenix Bank, 1 Hall (NY) 577.24
Lowvy v. McGhee, 16 Tenn 242 (1835).24 Ward v. Smith, 7 Wall 447, 19
L Ed 207.24 Ontario Bank v. Lighbody, 3 Wend
10124,25,35 Johnson v. State, 167 Ala
82..25 Perry v. United States, 204 US 330, 79 L Ed
917.25,26,37 Sinking Fund Cases, 99 US 700, 25 L Ed 496.26
United States v. Bank of the Metropolis, 51 Pet 377, 10 LEd 77426 3 Hamiltons Works
518..26 United States Constitution, 4th & 5th
Amendments27 Knox v. Lee, 12 Wall 552, 353, 361,

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562..27,28,38 Bank of New York v. New York County, 7 Wall


26..28,37 Don E. Williams Co. v. CIR, 97 S Ct 850, 51 L Ed 2d (1977)
..28,29 Hart v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue, 54 F 2d 846, 332 (1932).29 Estate
of Spiegel v. Commissioner, 12 TC 524 (1949); Rev Rul 54-465, 1954-2 Cum Bull
93.29 Eckert v. Burnet, 283 US 140, 51 S Ct 373, 75 L Ed 911
(1931)..29 Helvering v. Price, 309 US 409, 60 S Ct 673, 84 L Ed 836 (194O)29
Petty v. Commissioner, 40 TC 521, 524 (1963).29 Guren v. Commissioner, 66
TC 118 (1976)29 Baltimore Dairy Lunch, Inc. v. United States, 231 F 2d
870, 875 (CA8 1956).29 Vaughn & Telegraph, 14 Wall 258, 267, 26830,31
William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England by Blackstone, 1 Blackstone, Sec. 387,
389, 391..31,32 14 Geo. III c 42..31
3 Story 16, 18.32 Pol.Economy p.
222..32 iii 2 Mills Pol. Economy p.
1932 18 Ind
471..32 3 Websters Works,
4134 United States Bank v. Bank of Georgia, 10 Wheat
333..34 Miller v. Race, 1 Burrow 452..34 Young v. Scott, 5 Ala
475..35 Carlisle v. Davis, 7 Ala
4235 Flemming v. Nall,, 1 Tex
246..35 Pierson v. Wallace, 7 Ark 282
35,36 Irvine v. Laury, 14 Pet 29335 Miller v. Austin, 13 How
218,228.35 Lieber v. Goodrich, 5 Cw
187..35,36 General Service Administration, Form T-588-R (12-72)
..35 15 Am & Eng Enc of Law 701.36 Cook v.
State, 130 Ark 95..36 103 US
792..36 25 Ark
215..36 83 Ala
5136 23 Ind
2136 35 Ill
5836 8 Minn
324..36 27 Mich
191.36 Serbian & Brazilian Bond Cases, P.C.I.J.
Series A, Nos. 20-21, pp 32-34, 109,110.37 Gregory v.
Morris, 96 US 619 , 24 L Ed 74037 Fletcher v. Peck, 6 Cranch 87, 2 L Ed
162.37 60 Am Jur 2d Payment Sections 28, 52, 62,
64.41,42 The Emily Souder, 17 Wall 666, 21 LEd 68341
Duncan v. Kimball, 3 Wall 37, 18 L Ed 50..41 Keller v. North American L. Ins.
Co., 301 Ill 198, 133 NE 726..41 Emerson v. Providence Hat Mfg. Co., 12 Mass
23741 Wright v. First Crockery Ware Co., 1 NH 281.41 Parker v.
Cousins, 2 Gratt (Va) 37241 11 Am Jur 2d Bills & Notes Sections 216 &
21742,43 Harrshbarger v. Eby, 28 Idaho 753, 156 P 61943,46
Hannon v. Fink, 66 Okla 115, 167 P 1152..43,46 Ballard v. Burton, 64 Vt 387, 24 A
769.43 Good v. Dyer, 137 Va 114, 119 SE

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8543 Anheuser Bush Brewing Assn v. Mason, 44 Minn 318, 46 NW
55843 17 Am Jur 2d Contracts Section 8643 Bailey v.
Gentry, 1 Mo 164 (1822)..46 Lorber v. Tooley, 47 Cal App 2d 47, 117 P 2d
42146 Wolford V. Powers, 85 Ind 294..46
Rauschenbach v. McDaniels Estate, 122 W Va 632, 11 SE 2d 852..46 1 Am Jur 2d Actions
Section 5147 United States Constitution, 6th & 7th
Amendments..48 An Essay on the Trial by Jury, By Lysander
Spooner.48 Chief Justice John Jay, State of Georgia v. Brailsford, 3 Dall
1..48,49 Twelve for the People, by Claire Kelly & W. Vaughn Ellsworth, includes Excerpts from
the Trial of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase49 Springfield Bank v. Merrick et al., 14
Mass 322.45 Hunt v. Knickerbocker, 5 Johns 327
.45 ______________________ Paper Money Paying Taxes US v
Chamberlin, 219 US 250 (1911) Neither Lane County v. Oregon, 7 Wall. 71, 19 L. ed. 101, nor
Meriwether v. Garrett, 102 U.S. 472 , 26 L. ed. 197, relied upon by the defendants, involved the
question. In the former case it was held that the acts of Congress of 1862 and 1863 [12 Stat. at L.
345, 532, 709, chaps. 33, 142, 73], making United States notes a legal tender for debts, had no
reference to taxes imposed by state authority. The legal tender acts expressly provided that the
notes should be receivable for national taxes, and the context forbade the conclusion that Congress
intended to include state taxes under the term debts, and there was hence no conflict with the
statute of Oregon which required the taxes due the state to be collected in coin. In Meriwether v.
Garrett, supra, it was held that taxes levied before the repeal of the charter of a municipality, other
than such as were levied in obedience to the special requiremant of contracts entered into under the
authority of law, and such as were levied under judicial direction for the payments of juegments
recovered against the city, could not be collected through the instrumentality of a court of chancery at
the instance of the citys creditors. Such taxes could be collected only under authority from the
legislature. A tax may or may not be a debt under a particular statute, according to the sense in
which the word is found to be used. But whether the government may recover a personal judgment
for a tax depends upon the existence of the duty to pay, for the enforcement of which another remedy
has not been made exclusive. Whether an action of debt is maintainable depends not upon the
question who is the plaintiff or in what manner the obligation was [219 U.S. 250, 263] incurred, but it
lies whenever there is due a sum either certain or readily reduced to certainty. Stockwell v. United
States, 13 Wall. p. 542, 20 L. ed. 493. Carter and Carter v. Penn, 4 Ala. 140 (1842): The note does
not stipulate for the payment of a debt in Bank bills, but is an undertaking to pay current money of
the State of Alabama. It is true that an infinite variety of commodities have been used as money in
different periods and countries. . . and in common parlance all these different representations of the
common standard of value have been designated as money. But the notes of the Bank which are
not redeemable in coin, on demand, cannot, with any propriety be regarded as such; in fact, the best
Bank paper passes as money by consent only, and it cannot be otherwise so long as the inhibition
of the Federal Constitution ____________________________________ B. ARKANSAS Dillard v.
Evans, 4 Ark. 175 (1842): Bank issues are not, in the constitutional sense of the term, lawful money
of legal coin. Gold and silver alone are a legal tender of debts, and the only true constitutional
currency know to the laws. Foquet v. Hoadley, 3 Conn. 534 (1821): A promissory note, payable in

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money, cannot be discharged, by the act of the debtor, without the co-operation of the creditor,
unless in gold and silver coin. Const. U.S. art. 1. sec. 10. Bank notes are not a legal tender, if the
creditor objects to receive them. McChord v. Ford, 19 Ky 167 (1826): but as bank notes are not
money, it also follows that this note can not intend bank notes, but gold or silver. Sinclair v. Piercy,
28 Ky 63 (1830): The result from an examination of all the cases is that money in its strict legal
sense, means gold or silver coin, and that an obligation for money alone can not be satisfied with
any thing else. Pryor v. Commonwealth, 32 Ky 298 (1834): Yet, that its true technical import is
lawful money of the United States, in other words, gold or silver coin, and when used in judicial
proceedings it is always to be taken in this technical sense. Gray v. Donahoe, 4 Watts (Pa.) 400
(1835): No principle is better established or more necessary to be maintained than that bank notes
are not `money in the legal sense of the word . . . Coins struck at the Mint or authorized by act of
Congress are alone lawful money. They possess a fixed and permanent value or, at least, as nearly
so as human affairs admit of. Bank notes are merely promissory notes for the payment of money
ordinarily, it is true, convertible into coin on demand at the bank where they are issued. What is
Money Court Definitions Downloads of What is Money are at the bottom of the page A
promissory note is a written promise by one person to pay to another or to bearer a fixed sum of
money. See: Davis v. Spencer, 267 Ill 57; 107 NE 826; Jencks v. Rice, 119 Iowa 451; Cherry v.
Sprague, 187 Mass 113. As a decree by a court of the U.S. for the payment of money can be made
only for the payment of so many dollars of some specie of money that is made lawful money by a
statute of the U.S., it follows that a recovery upon such a promissory note or contract must be for
some dollars in gold and silver coins. See: The Edith, D.C. N.Y. (1875), 5 Ben. 144, 8 Fed. Cases
4,281; Forbes v. Murray, D.C. N.Y. (1869), 3 Ben. 497, 9 Fed. Cases 4,928. The general rule is that a
final judgment for money must specify the amount awarded. See: U.S. v. F. & M. Shaefer Brewing,
356 US 227; 45 Am Jur 2d 81. An act by the legislature of Alabama, September 30, 1920, page 36,
providing when a check is presented or forwarded to the payee bank for payment, it may at its option
pay or remit the same in money or in exchange drawn on its reserves. However, it is unconstitutional
and void as an attempt by the state to make a class of debts payable at the option of the debtor in
something other than gold and silver coin. See: Capitol Grain and Feed Co v. Federal Reserve Bank
of Atlanta, D.C. Ga. (1925), 3 F.2d 614, 269 US 589, 70 L Ed 427. As bills of credit were entirely
abolished, the paper money of the state banks was the only currency or circulating medium to which
the prohibition (Art. 1, Sec. 10) could have had any application. See: Veazie Bank v. Fenno, 75 US
533. (What is checkbook credit, lines of credit, etc.?) Congress was vested with the power to borrow
money and that the promise of payment having been given, no authority remained to alter or destroy
the original promise. See: Perry v. U.S., 294 US 330. The states are not forbidden to issue coupons
receivable for taxes, nor execute instruments binding themselves to pay money at a future day for
services rendered or money borrowed. See: Poindexter v. Greenbow, 114 US 70; Chaffin v. Taylor,
116 US 567; Houston & Texas Central R.R. v. Texas, 177 US 66. (If this is true, then why do states
borrow from banks? States issue bonds and the banks buy the bonds by creating a new demand
deposit and nothing is deposited. When it comes time to pay the bonds, the state acts as a
collection agent for the bank.) Neither the president nor the cashier of a bank has a right to accept
anything but money in payment of an obligation due the bank. See: Aliquippa National Bank v.
Harvey, 12 A.2d 409, 340 Pa 223; First National Bank of Mt. Holley Springs v. Cumbler, 21 A.2d 120;
Re Bowen 46 F. Supp 631, 16 A.2d 409. Some years ago a new type of installment credit appeared

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in banks throughout the country. It became known as check credit or revolving check credit.
Basically, it provided that those eligible for such credit be granted a line of credit in the agreed
amount. In order to use that line, the borrower needed merely to write checks. The checks were
special checks, and were NOT actually checking accounts. The check was merely the instrument by
which the loan account was activated. Usually it did not go through all the processes that an
ORDINARY check does once it reaches the bank. However, it had the APPEARANCE of an
ORDINARY check, and was so used by the customer and the person to whom he gave the check.
Source: The Bankers Handbook (?edition), page 530. (Does the bank disclose this information to
you? It should be quite important for you to know that the bank just created a bookkeeping entry to
create the loan, and that the checks were not actually checks, but had the appearance of checks.
This is what is known as a common law cheat and should be in violation of Fair Trade Practices
because it gives banks a much greater advantage in business than you or I, or other businesses.)
See: Title 15, Sec. 1635 of Chap. 41. Unless there is what the law considers a valuable
consideration, it will not be sufficient to maintain an action. And there is a distinction between a
valuable consideration, other than money, and a money consideration. While in the former case
the slightest consideration will support a promise (consideration other than money) to pay the
largest amount to the full extent of the promise, in the latter the consideration will support a promise
only to the extent of the money forming the consideration. The law leaves the measure of a valuable
consideration other than money, for a promise to pay, to the parties to the contract; but money being
the standard of value, is not the subject to be changed by contract, and will support a promise to pay
money only to the extent of the amount of the consideration. See: Sawyer v. McLouth, 46 Barb 350.
The term tender as used in the books, denotes a legal OFFER, one which one party is under
obligation to make and the other bound to accept. See: Duluth v. Knowlton, 42 Minn. 229; Patnote v.
Sanders, 41 Vt. 66. The promissory note, even when payable on demand and fully secured, is still,
as its name implies, only a PROMISE to pay, and does not represent the paying out or reduction of
assets. See: Don E. Williams Co. v. Commissioner of IRS, 51 L.Ed. 2d 48 (Feb. 22, 1977). Money
does not embrace notes (promises to pay money). See: Lane v. Railey; U.S. v. Wells; Devenny v.
Devenny; State v. Hoke; Hamilton v. State; etc.. (Since a Federal Reserve Note is not even a note [a
promise to pay], money cannot embrace a Federal Reserve note.) An agent (clerk) has no implied
authority to receive anything else than MONEY in satisfaction of a debt due his principal. He cannot,
therefore, take payment in a check. See: Hall v. Storrs, 7 Wis. 217; Buckwalter v. Craig, 55 Mo. 71.
Payment of debts is imperative/axiomatic/essential for the right of contract/property to exist, for
without payment (delivery of money), the debt still exists. See: Stanek v. White, 215 NW 784. It is the
general rule that a pledger, whose tender (offer) has been refused, will not be granted affirmative
relief of an equitable nature, unless he has kept the tender good or at least comes before the court
in an attitude of willingness to pay what is due him. See: Norton v. Baxter, 41 Minn. d 146; Tuthill v.
Morris, 81 NY 94. Negotiable note must be promise to pay money. See: Roads v. Webb, 91 Me 410.
(Federal Reserve Notes are not money.) Federal Reserve notes may be refused. See: MacLeod v.
Hoover, 105 So 205, 159 La 244. The only substances ever declared as money within the U.S. were
gold and silver, in coin form, with copper/nickel serving in token capacity only. See: 12 USCA 152 re.
lawful money and Coinage Act of April 2, 1792, at Sections 11, 16, & 20; re. copper/nickel tokens,
see Sec. 9, and 31 USCA 460. A legal tender, when made, must be kept good according to the rules
of the common law. See: William Wolf Co. v. Canadian R.R. Co., 56 Pac. Rep 453. It has been held

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that if the instrument recites on its face its consideration, the consideration must be proved. See:
Smith v. Doherty, 60 SW 380, 109 Ky 616. Where the instrument sued upon is nonnegotiable,
plaintiff must prove its consideration. See: Shubert Theatrical Co. v. Dalton, 167 NY S 332. A
promissory note is defined as an unconditional promise to pay a sum certain in dollars. See:
Regulation A, Sec. 4 (1005) (a) Federal Reserve Act. (Dollars = money, not Federal Reserve notes.)
Money imports value. See: Neufield v. U.S., 118 F.2d 375. (What value has a piece of paper with
green ink on it, especially when it is redeemable in no-thing?) Money has value only by law and not
by nature so that a conviction of those who use it is sufficient to deprive it of its value and of its
purchasing power. See: Incitti v. Ferrante, 175 A 908. When a contract is agreed to be paid in dollars,
a payment in money is meant and not the transfer of notes. See: Simon v. Douglas, 225 SW 721;
189 Ky 644. Income must be money or that which is convertible into money. See: Snyders Estate, 31
A.2d 132, 136; 346 Pa 615. (Is any Federal Reserve note convertible at par or otherwise, through a
bank, for money?) Monetary value means value calculated on the basis of $1 for an amount of silver
or gold equal to the amount at the time contained in the standard silver dollar or gold dollar. See:
USCA Title 31, Chap. 8, Sec. 448(b) (Gold and silver have a value lies in and of themselves notes
do not.) Money is a commodity, having a value of its own. It is a common measure of value. It has
change ability. See: U.S. v. Gellman, D.C. Minn. 44 F. Supp. 360. (Gold and silver are commodities
and have a value in and of themselves notes are not commodities and have no value in and of
themselves. Granted they are speculated upon in the money markets but that does not mean they
have a value in and of themselves. Their value lies in the confidence of the people, not in the thing
itself.) Money is defined as meaning a representative standard or measure of value. See: Jones v.
Overstreet, 4 T.B. Mon. 547. The courts have found occasion to decide that the pleading did not raise
certain issues such as: want of consideration See: Sopp v. Linfrand, 36 P.2d 794; negotiability
Banca Commission Italiana Dr. Genova v. P. Schlegal Co., 80 P 414; ownership Sheffield v. Hatch,
135 So 165); payment Minor v. Carpenter, 152 P 737. Checkbook money is not legal tender. See:
Story of Checks, Federal Reserve Bank of NY, p 20. Commercial banks are important financial
institutions because they can create money checkbook money. See: Moneys Economic Balance,
Federal Reserve Bank of NY, P 17 (8th ed., 1979). A check is defined as a draft or order upon a
bank, purporting to be drawn upon a deposit of funds for the payment of a certain sum of money.
See: Federal Reserve Act, Reg. J, Sec. 3 (12). (Money is not notes.) Nothing contained in this
chapter shall impair the redeemability of any currency of the United States. See: 31 USC 9?6. (If
currency has any redeemability where?) Bank notes are promissory notes of a bank, payable to
bearer. They are a good tender unless objected to at the time because not money. See: Parsons
Laws of Business, Page 172. (Anything is acceptable as a tender unless objected to.) It cannot be
doubted that under the Constitution the power to provide a circulating of coins is given to Congress.
And it is settled by the uniform practice of the government and repeated decisions, that Congress
may constitutionally authorize the omission of bills of credit. Having this in the exercise of
undisputed constitutional power undertaken to provide a currency for the whole country, it cannot be
questioned that Congress may constitutionally secure the benefit of it to the people by appropriate
legislation. To this end, Congress has denied the quality of legal tender to foreign coins, and has
provided by law against the imposition of counterfeit and base coin on the community. See: Veazie
Bank v. Fenno, 8 Wall 533, 19 L Ed 48. Federal Reserve notes are valueless. See: Internal
Revenue Code at section 1.1001-1 (4657) C.C.H. Taxes lawfully assessed are collectible by agents

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in money, and notes cannot be accepted in payment. See: Town of Frankfort v. Waldo, 128 Me 1. (If
notes cannot be accepted, what about checks?) Securities are defined as notes or evidences of
debt. See: Rev. Rule 66-321, CB 1966-2, p 59. Negotiable note must be promise to pay money. See:
Roads v. Webb, 91 Me 410. Only the note which represents money is negotiable. See: Omohumbro
v. Crumm, 18 Gratt 703. (What note represents money? If there is none, nothing is negotiable.) A
check, to negotiable, must be payable in cash. See: Little v. Bank, 2 Hill 425. (Checks and notes are
not cash.) One of the factors showing that notes are worth their full face value is the willingness of
the payee to guarantee payment. See: Volume 10, Law of Fed. Income Tax, Se. 59.51. (Who will
guarantee the face value payment of a federal Reserve note? You can change notes for notes but
that is not a payment of the note.) Congress may issue treasury notes, their issue being an
exchange of credit for money or property. See: Metropolitan Bank v. Dyke, 27 NY 400. A state cannot,
by indirect means, or any device, emit bills of credit. See: Briscoe v. Bank of Kentucky, 11 Pet 431. A
bill of credit is not a good consideration for a contract. See: Craig v. Missouri, 4 Pet 431; Bank v.
Clark, 4 Mo 59; Linn v. Bank, 5 Ill 87. A state cannot incorporate individuals and authorize them to
coin money. See: Briscoe v. Bank, 11 Pet 257. (But can the Federal government?) Tender is an
unconditional offer to perform couples with a manifested ability to carry out the offer and production
of the subject matter of the tender. See: 243 F. Supp 741, 744. An offer of performance which, if
unjustifiably refused, places the refusing party in default and permits the party making tender to
exercise his remedy for breach of contract. See: 17 P.2d 952, 953. A check is a written order or
request addressed to a bank, by a party having money in their hands, desiring them to pay, on
presentment, to a person therein named, or bearer, or to such person, or order, a named sum of
money. See: Bouviers Law Dictionary. (No one has money in the bank to pay any person. Money is
not notes or checks.) A check is an order on a bank, drawn on a deposit of funds, for the payment of
a certain sum of money. See: Norton on Bills and Notes. 53. A check, to be negotiable, must be
payable in money. See: Little v. Bank, 2 Hill (NY) 425. (Notes are not money.) A check given in
exchange for a negotiable instrument is a conditional payment only unless there is an express
agreement to the contrary. See: Steele v. Vanderslice, 367 p 2d 636. Promissory note within
meaning of V.A.M.S. Sec. 401.001 is a promise to pay sum certain in money. See: Dillard v. Dillard,
269 SW 2d 481. A note is an acknowledgment of debt. See: Smith v. Mills, 296 P 2d 481, 49 SE 2d
431; Gales v. Frank, 121 NY S 2d 435. (Do those who possess notes, possess debt?) Where note
is void ab initio it is nonnegotiable. See: Modern Ind. Bank v. Taub, 47 A.2d 348. 58. Parties to a
negotiable instrument are generally held to be liable in capacity in which they signed the instrument
and sueable accordingly. See: Reed v. Buck, 370 SW 2d 867. (Who signs Federal Reserve notes?)
Petition seeking to enforce the terms of a promissory note must allege a promise to pay made by
defendant. See: McGee v. Taylor, 242 SW 2d 621. (Court cases have often been dismissed because
all parties to the action were not named. Anyone suing a bank should include the Secretary of
Treasury and whoever signed the note. However, Federal Reserve notes are not really promissory
notes and there is no promise to pay thereon.) The essence of a check is that the instrument is an
unconditional order in writing to pay a sum certain in money. See: State v. DeNicola, 126 NE 2d 62;
Aetna Oil Co. v. Glenn, 53 F. Supp. 961. A check is not money. See: School Dist. v. U.S. National
Bank, 211 P 2d 723. (Notes are not money.) A bank note is a promissory note of a bank, payable on
demand, and intended to circulate as money. See: Commissioner v. Gallagher, 126 Mass 54.
(Payable in what?) Nothing is consideration for a note that is not regarded as such by both parties.

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See: Standly v. Western Mutual Life Ins., 95 Ind 254; Sterns v. Franks, 96 P.2d 802; 35 Cal App. 2d
676. Instruments not bearing terms of negotiability such as words or order or or bearer were not
negotiable. See: Inst. Penn. v. Utne, D.C. Minn (1962), 360 SW 2d 823. (Todays Federal Reserve
notes contain no such words and are not negotiable except for more notes.) A note is an instrument
which, by its terms, purports to evidence unconditional promise to pay. See: McCullough Tool v.
C.I.R., (1963), 318 F.2d 790. Note which was not payable to order or bearer was not negotiable. See:
Strom v. Dickson, (1962), 361 SW 2d 823. A holder of a note is deemed prima facie to be a holder in
due course and is entitled to sue on the note. See: Waterman v. Sullivan, 81964, 397 P 2d 739. (But
we do not have valid notes.) In order for a note to be negotiable it must contain both an unconditional
promise to pay and a fixed or determined date of payment. See: Bank of Kimbol v. Rostek, (1967),
423 P 2d 579. A promissory cannot be received as cash. Nothing shall be deemed capital paid in
except money bona fide. Under no circumstances shall a promissory note, check, or other obligation
be treated as actual paid in capital. See: Pac. Trust v. Dorsey, 72 Cal 55. It will not do to say that their
interest in the welfare of the state and their responsibility to their constituents will be sufficient
safeguards against corrupt legislation of this or any other character. Suppose the powerful mining
and other corporations doing business in this territory were to concentrate a heavy and combined
moneyed influence upon a corrupt and venal legislature an institution not entirely unknown to the
history of our republic and should procure the passage of an act making their certificates of stock
lawful money in the payment of taxes, I think it would be difficult to find a lawyer who valued his legal
opinion as worth anything, who would be willing to defend such an act as valid. See: Haas v. Misner,
1 Idaho 170, 178. Act of Dec. 23, 1923, Sec. 317: Upon the deposit with the treasurer of the U.S. of
bonds so purchased, and Federal Reserve bank making such deposit, shall be entitled to receive
from the comptroller of the currency circulating notes in blank. Such notes shall be the obligations of
the Federal Reserve Bank. They shall be issued and redeemed under the same terms as national
bank notes. (In the beginning the Federal Reserve banks bought the bonds with money; they issued
notes in the amount of bonds purchased. The Federal Reserve banks bought bonds and deposited
them with the treasurer. The U.S. Treasurer had possession of both the bond and the money. The
Federal Reserve banks issued the notes. The notes were to be obligations of the Federal Reserve
banks. The Federal Reserve banks loaned the notes to the government, and in this way the Federal
Reserve banks got back all the money they paid for the bonds; but also, in the beginning, the notes
were to be used only for settling accounts between the 12 Federal Reserve banks, and for no other
purpose were they authorized.) See: 12 USC 411. The case of a State which pays off its own debts
with paper money, no more resembles this than do those to which we have already adverted. The
courts have no jurisdiction over the contract. They cannot enforce it, nor judge of its violation. Let it be
that the act discharging the debt is a mere nullity, and that it is still due. Yet the federal courts have
no cognizance of the case. But suppose a State to institute proceedings against an individual, which
depended on the validity of an act emitting bills of credit; suppose a State to prosecute one of its
citizens for refusing paper money, who should plead the constitution in bar of such prosecution. If
his plea should be overruled, and judgment rendered against him, his case would resemble this;
and, unless the jurisdiction of this court might be exercised over it, the constitution would be
violated, and the injured party be unable to bring his case before that tribunal to which the people of
the United States have assigned all such cases. See: Cohens v. Virginia, 6 Wall 100. According to
State v. Thomas money was property but Federal Reserve notes are only a claim on property and,

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Federal Reserve notes shall be redeemed in lawful moneynot legal tender. See: State v. Thomas,
12 USC 411. Make the bank identify the thing loaned. Certainly if the bank claims to have loaned
something they can identify it, and according to the law of tender, the tender must be kept good. If a
judgement could be settled with a tender, then the litigation would never end. A Federal Reserve
note being a chose in action, something to be sued upon (UCC), but then, under state law, there
can be no holder in due course on an incomplete instrument, and a fed note is an incomplete
instrument as it will not pay to bearer. This amounts to a common law cheat, which is the obtaining
of money or property by means of false tokens, symbols, or device; this being the definition of a
cheat or cheating at common law. See: State v. Renick, 33 Or 584, 56 p 275, 44 L R A 266, 72 Am.
St. Rep. 758. What a triumph for the advocates of despotism to find that we are incapable of
governing ourselves, and that systems founded on the basis of equal liberty are merely ideal and
fallacious. In a word, they are determined to annihilate all debts, public and private, and have
agrarian laws, which are easily effected by means of unfunded paper money which shall be a tender
in all cases. See: Gen. Knox. In order to constitute a loan, there must be a contract whereby one
party transfers to the other a sum of money. See: U.S. v. Neifert White, 247 F.Supp. 878. A loan may
be defined as the delivery by one party to, and the receipt by another of a sum of money. See:
Kirkland v. Bailes, 155 S.E. 2d 701. (Yet the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago says in Modern Money
Mechanics that banks make loans by promising to lend.) (However a promise to lend cannot be
enforced. In order to constitute a loan, money must be loaned, but banks make loans by promising
to lend, and promises to lend cannot be enforced.) 5 MRSA. The thing given or taken in exchange
must be specific and so distinguishable from things of like kind as to be clearly known and
identifiable. See: Preston v. Keene, 14 Pet 133. The extension of credit is not the giving of value. See:
UCC 3-303:0; Atkinson v. Englewood State Bank, 141 Colo 436. A loan is the creation of debt by the
lenders agreement to pay MONEY TO THE DEBTOR. See: Maine Consumer Credit Code 9-A, Sec.
1.301 (23)(a)(1). Banks extend credit, not money. See: National Bank v. Atkinson, 55 Fed. Rep. 571.
Fair and reasonable value means the best price to be at once in money cash being the antonym
of credit cash value importing value in money. See: State v. Woodward, 93 SO 826, 208 Ala 31. A
note given to town treasurer in payment of a tax, being illegal as against public policy, does not
discharge the tax. See: Embden v. Bunker, 86 Me 313. There is a distinction between a debt
discharged and one paid. When discharged the debt still exists though divested of its character as a
legal obligation during the operation of the discharge. Something of the original vitality of the debt
continues to exist, which may be transferred even though the transferee takes it subject to the
disability incident to the discharge. The fact that it carries something which may be a consideration
for a new promise to pay so as to make an otherwise worthless promise a legal obligation makes it
the subject of transfer by assignment. See: Badger v. Gilmore, 33 N.H. 361, 66 Am. D. 729; William
R. Stank v. M.W. White, 172 Minn. Reports 390. Although it apparently was still necessary in the
1790s to allege fictionally that such bills were drawn according to the custom of merchants, Butter
v. Ouchterloney, S SC, 3-68) all agreed that an instrument executed by a non merchant was
negotiable if it contained words of negotiability customarily used by merchants, such as or order in
an appropriate place. See: Whitney v. Whitney, Quincy 117 (1765); Laws and Usages Respecting
Bills of Exchange and Promissory Notes, by John Tisdall. According to the Uniform Commercial
Code (UCC), a debt can only be paid with money or goods. The UCC, of course, is state law which
supersedes federal law. The Federal Government has no power to impose on any state officer any

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duty whatsoever, and compel him to perform it. See: Commonwealth v. Dennison, 24 How. 66. A
judgement for money must specify the amount in words or figures with some mark or character to
indicate what they represent. Re See: Boyd (D.C. Or) Fed. Case No. l1746 (see also United Glover
Co. v. Harvey Steel, 3 F.2d 634.) (Figures in the absence of dollar marks should be void as there
would be no figure or mark to indicate what the numbers represent.) In the absence of any provision
of law precluding payment in a particular kind of coin specifically designated in a contract, the
general rule is that such contract may be enforced by the rendition of a judgement for the particular
kind of coin designated. See: The Emily Sounder, 17 Wall 666; Trebilcock v. Wilson, 12 Wall 687;
Land v. Gluckauf, 28 Cal 288; Gilman v. Douglas County, 6 Nev. 27. The support of the general rule
by the courts has been based not on the difference in the kinds of money, but on the ground that the
party specifically contracted for payment in a specific thing. See: Thompson v. Butler, 95 US 694. The
issuance of Federal Reserve notes is not an attempt by the government to coin money, it is a pledge
of the government to pay dollars. See: U.S. v. Ballard, 14 Wall 457. No payment is effectuated by the
delivery of a bill or note which is unenforceable. See: Lee v. Fontaine, 10 Ala 755. (A note is
unenforceable unless it is negotiable.) Giving of a note does not constitute payment. See: Echart v.
Commissioners C.C.A., 42 F.2d 158, 283 US 140; Noland v. Maryland Casualty Co., D.C. Md. 38
F.Supp. 497. (See #70) When a decree provides for the payment of money, that term imports
constitutional currency. See: Shackleford v. Cunningham, 41 Ala 203; West Oliver Co. v. Bail &
Crommelin, 12 Ala 340. (Constitutional money is not notes or checks.) For judgements payable in
US funds. See: Shaw Savill Albion & Co. v. The Frederickburg, C.A. N.Y. 189 F.2d 952. Definition of
funds: Money in hand; assets; cash; money available. See: Galena Ins. Co. v. Kupfer, 28 Ill 335; U.S.
v. Jenks, D.C. Pa. 264 F 697; Johnson v. State, 37 Ga. App 129. Money is property. Federal Reserve
notes are liabilities, not assets. Cash, according to the book. See: The Federal Reserve Bank; Its
Purposes and Functions, is coin. Current money: Whatever is receivable and current by law as
money. See: Henderson v. Farmers Savings Bank, 199 Iowa 496. The precious metals alone are
money, and whatever else is to perform the functions of money must be their representative and
capable of being turned into them at will. So long as bank paper retains this quality it is a substitute
for money; divested of this, nothing can give it that character. See: 3 Websters Works 41; Woodruff v.
Miss, 162 US Reports 307. A Note is only promise to pay. See: Fidelity Savings v. Grimes, 131 P 2d
894. Legal tender notes are not good as lawful money of the U.S.. See: Rains v. State, 226 S.W. 189.
Checks, drafts, money orders, and bank notes are not lawful money of the U.S.. See: State v.
Nealan, 43 Ore 158. Where the Fed. Gov. is a party to commercial paper, it is bound by same rules
which govern private persons. See: Continental American Bank v. U.S., C.C.A. La. (1947) 161 F.2d
93. The government assumes all responsibilities of private persons when it issues commercial
paper. See: U.S. v. First National Bank, 138 F.2d 681. The term dollar means money since it is the
unit of money in this country, and in the absence of qualifying words, it cannot mean promissory
notes or bonds or other evidences of debt. See: Devenny v. Devenny, 74 Ohio St. 96, 76 NE 688.
Federal Reserve Notes are a first and paramount lien on all the assets of the issuing Federal
Reserve bank. See: Moodys Bank & Financial Manual, page 2105. (If Federal Reserve notes are a
lien on the banks, no wonder they want to eliminate the use of Federal Reserve notes and deal only
with computer entries.) Negotiable Instruments Law was designed to cover commercial paper and
U.S. currency. See: LSA-R.S. 17; 1 et seq LSA-C.C. art 2139. The publics use of demand deposits
as money is not based on authorization by the Federal Government. Even today, legal tender, the

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kind of money in which debts are payable, does not include demand deposits. See: An Introduction
to Money and Banking, by Colin and Rosemary Campbell, Professors of Economics. U.S. Currency
does not contain all of essence of negotiable instrument under Louisiana law. U.S. currency is the
object for which negotiable instruments issue. The very first requirement of our negotiable
instrument law is that the instrument be signed by the maker. The signatures on paper money are
made by facsimile stamp put there by machine. See: Civil Code Art. 2139 La; 120 So. 2d 845. We
are involved in a confidence game; there is nothing to our currency except the confidence the people
have in it. See: Congressman Ron Paul. Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is
absolute master of all commerce and industry. See: President James Garfield. The money power
preys upon the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more
despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces
as public enemies all who would question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. See: Abraham
Lincoln. Funny money supply: The Feds cant count it let alone control it. See: Barrons Financial
Report, Feb. 3, 1975. This sound state of the currency will have another most happy effect upon the
laboring man. He will receive his wages in gold and silver; and this will induce him to lay up, for
future use, such portion of them as he can spare. This he will not do at present, because he knows
not whether the trash which he is now compelled to receive as money will continue to be of any
value a week or a month hereafter. See: James Buchanan, Jan. 22, 1840. A holder who does not
give value cannot qualify as a holder in due course. See: UCC 3-303;1(1). (The bank holds a note
but what did the bank give for the note; what thing of value did they part with?) With respect to a
consumer credit sale, the creditor may not take a negotiable instrument other than a currently dated
check or a draft payable within seven days. See: Maine Consumer Credit Code, Title 9, Sec. 3.307. A
promise to pay is not the equivalent of actual payment. See: Christianson v. Beebe, 91 P 129, 32
Utah 406. Notes do not operate as payment in the absence of an agreement that they shall
constitute payment. See: Blackshear Manufacturing Co. v. Harrell, 12 S.E. 2d 766. A court will take
judicial notice of the worth of a dollar. See: Read v. State, 92 NY 321. Federal Reserve Notes and
national bank notes may be used to pay an obligation evidenced by usual form of promissory note.
See: Beery v. Los Angeles County, (1953), 253 P 2d 1005. (This case was over Wallace Berry, the
movie actor. The notes in question were redeemable in lawful money and would pay to the bearer
on demand.) Par: When used in connection with currency, treasury notes or bank bills, par means
equal to gold. See: Crim v. Sellars, 37 Ga 324. Equal to gold and silver. See: Galloway v. Jenkin, 63
NC 147; Harrisburg Bank v. Commonwealth, 26 Pa 451. Thus it is laid down by books of authority
that if a man draw a bill of exchange, he is, for the purposes of that bill, a merchant. See: Comyns
Digest; Merchant, A,1. (are we all, than merchants?) One who is the cause or occasion of a
condition by which a loss has been caused ought to bear it. See: Marion Mortgage Co. v. Grennan,
87 A LR 1492; 106 Fla 913. One who is not the cause of an occasion should not be made to suffer
for it. See: Marion Mortgage Co v. Brennal, 87 A LR 1492; Buxbaum v. Assicurazioni v. Winston, Tx
Civ. App 137 SW 2d 93. The simple meaning of money is current coin. See: Salt Lake County v. Utah
Copper Co., CCA Utah, 93 F.2d 127. Payment is the discharge of an obligation by the actual delivery
of money or its equivalent. See: Chrysler Corp. v. Hanover Ins. Co., C.A. 7, Ind. 350 F.2d 652; 383 US
906. Money is what is coined or stamped by public authority and has its value fixed by public
authority. See: Paul v. Ball, 31 Tex 10 Kennedy v. Briere, 45 Tex 305; Richard v. American Union
Bank, 253 NY 166. The USA has no inland jurisdiction Arndt v. Griggs, 134 US 316 and thus cannot

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compel one, upon ones proper objection, to obtain, use, tender, nor alienate any private negotiable
instruments not excluding FRAUDS (Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Devices), and this was held
so by the state supreme courts, even when federal gold and silver coins were in existence (see
ALZR administrative agency related fines, taxes, bails, etc. See: Perry v. Washburn, 20 Cal 318;
Lane County v. Oregon, 7 Wall 71. Thus, where the judge (sic) chancellor adjudges imprisonment
where he cannot fine, the same operation of law/equity destroys his necessary discretion and
without discretion, he ceases to be a judge/chancellor, and the court CORAM NON JUDICE (no
judge in attendance) as in Windsor v. McVeigh, 93 US 274, where the court is without power or
refuses to grant a hearing; Windsor, Supra. Thus no fine nor imprisonment can be enforced at all.
Thou shalt not have in thy bag divers weights, a great and a small. Thou shalt not have in thine
house divers measures, a great and a small. But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect
and just measure shalt thou have: that they days may be lengthened in the land which the Lord thy
God giveth thee. See: Deuteronomy 25: 13-15. From the Constitutional debates on bills of credit
contained in Article 1, Section 8 which stated: The legislature of the United States shall have the
power to . . . coin money . . . and emit bills of credit of the United States. Notes of Debates in the
Federal Convention of 1787, by James Madison, Ohio University Press, Athens, Ohio, 1966. Mr. G.
Morris moved to strike out and and emit bills of credit. If the United States had credit such bills
would be unnecessary; if they had not, unjust and useless.MADISON: Will it not be sufficient to
prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views.
And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.MORRIS: Striking out the
words will leave room still for notes of a responsible minister which will do all the good without the
mischief. The moneyed interest will oppose the plan of Government, if paper emissions be not
prohibited. COL. MASON: Through he had a mortal hatred to paper money, yet as he could not
foresee all emergencies, he was willing to tie the hands of the legislature. (legislature = Congress)
MERCER: (A friend of paper money) It was impolitic . . . to excite the oppression of all those who
were friends to paper money. Mr. ELSEWORTH: thought this was a favorable movement to shut and
bar the door against paper money. This mischiefs of the various experiments which had been
made, were now fresh in the public mind and had excited the disgust of all the respectable part of
America. By withholding the power from the new Government more friends of influence would be
gained to it than by almost anything else . . .. Give the Government credit, and other resources will
offer. The power may do harm, never good. Mr. WILSON: It will have a most salutary influence on the
credit of the United States to remove the possibility of paper money. This expedient can never
succeed whilst its mischiefs are remembered, and as long as it can be resorted to, it will be a bar to
other resources. Mr. READ, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of
the Beast in Revelation. Mr. LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words
and emit bills. The motion for striking out carried. On August 28, Article 1 Section 10 was
debated. The standing version was worded this way: No state shall coin money; nor grant letters of
marquee and reprisal; nor enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; nor grant any title of
nobility. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved,
an important part of the wealth of their
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dejure,
J@ >January 24, 2014 at 9:15 PM
@ >I dont know what the case is, off the top of my head, but focus on the federal reserve NOTE
part. A note, is a note. Might be something in here:
WOW !!!
This will keep us, or at least some of us busy for a while. I hope Pat Fields sees this. Did you
dejure, see what the Commander and Chief of this blog said about you,he said, > dejure
makes almost astonishing contributions. Im hoping to talk to him one of these days.
No response to this message is necessary. I have a full plate with your post of,anuary 24, 2014
at 9:15 PM.

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I dont know what link showed, regarding my YouTube comment. I ramble a lot. Havent seen any
emails come in via the gmail.
On education no big deal. I never graduated from high school, but believe I write better than many
college grads, Ive managed to win many a legal battle, have held federal jobs they waived the
college requirements for to get the job done, have a wood shop and have produced things that have
gotten me invited to prestigious art shows, though Ive never worked for another in the trade or had
schooling on it, and so on. My story is like a million others stories.
More critical than a pieces of paper touting education is, our drive to improve ourselves. Many leave
school and never learn another thing of any significance.
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Some of you are polluting this site with your crap.
There is a good essay for you all to study.Was written in 19th century.Is as fresh as was written
yesterday.
Its name is: The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner.
This study is your foundation for your salvation.
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January 25, 2014 at 3:28 PM

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ADRIAN,TOP DOG, #1 HONCHO,
@ Some of you are polluting this site with your crap.
You can always remove yourself. Its not hard to do.
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Adrian, my apologies for the long post. My bad, as they say. Since this must be your site, hopefully,
you can delete it.
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January 25, 2014 at 11:18 PM

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@-Some of you are polluting this site with your crap
I agree with you.
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January 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM

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dejure, Beloved,
@ hopefully, you can delete it.
dejure quit stealing my thunder. Only I am allowed to say things like that. Now back to the drawing
board. Oh, I did try to send you an e-mail but, & I have never had anything like this to happen before. A
page came up with blanks for me to fill in and I have no idea what it meant so I could not fill in what was
necessary. However, I know somehow I will get through eventually. I cannot thank you enough for your
well I am at a loss for words to explain it. I am overwhelmed. What a Godsend you are.
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January 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM

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J.M., You asked if it is improper to ask for the before and after, regarding the tickets. There is ONLY a
before. I have yet to have any traffic commissioner respond to my questionnaires, or inquiry. In my
experience so far, they just dont do it.
I send them a denial of jurisdiction ( I do not have a license, and have not agreed to follow their rules for
that license (Motor Vehicle Code), and I am not a person, so I do not follow through or get into debates
with the court. I certainly would NEVER show up in their court, as that would be an admission they have
jurisdiction in the first place.
The only proof I have is that I never hear from them again. I returned the license and plates 2 years
ago, and the last encounter was in September. The only way to post before and after is if you go play
THEIR game in THEIR court. I wont be doing that voluntarily.
I havent figures out how to sue them for the towing storage fees yet, without submitting to their
jurisdiction, and again, taking such action might prove I am subject to their jurisdiction.
I live in the venue California Republic, as established by the 1849 California Constitution, not the federal
territory STATE OF CALIFORNIA (CA), the corporate subsidiary of the UNITED STATES, established in
the District of Columbia in 1879 by the CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION of 1879.
Simplest way to put it is: if you dont want to get beat up, dont go into the gang neighborhoods (venues),
as Alfred discusses quite often. I dont venture into their venues voluntarily. I do not find it fun to keep
messing in their venues or debating their laws, offering more inquiries,etc. It just sucks you deeper
and deeper into their system. I want just the opposite: quiet and peaceful, no stress, no games. Such
games are for armchair quarterbacks, and as has pointed out many times, it is almost impossible to
win their game, if you choose to play. They set it up that way from the beginning.
It is very interesting to see the breadth of knowledge on this site. Alfred seems to bring out the
intellectuals. Biggest problem is, no matter how many times you quote the Constitution For The United
States of America, it wont help, because GovCo is not using that constitution, they are using the US
CONstitution, as most people in this country have sworn under penalty of perjury (SSN) that they are US
citizens (citizens of corporate District of Columbia : CA, TX, zip codes, etc.), so they HAVE subjected
themselves to that venue and its statutes. I returned the SSN, procured for me by my parents when I
was a child, 7 or 8 years ago. I have returned/cancelled ALL licenses/permissions from GovCo, either
STATE or federal. I do not have any GovCo identifications at all, I do not collect any of my GovCo
pensions or SSN. I do not take their handouts, as again, that would subject me to their rules, and there
is NO way I am going to do that.
I cashed out all my investments 6 years ago, bought physical gold and silver (as Alfred suggests all the
time), and as soon as I have extra money in my hands, I go buy more gold or silver. The system seems
headed for an inevitable crash, as Alfred points out often. I do not want to be on that train or in their
system when that happens.

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January 27, 2014 at 1:35 PM

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Applessence,
Thank you so much for your response. My understanding of what you posted earlier was your way to
show that what you did,got them off your back. This WAS my understanding. As of today, lets say, &
presuming you sometimes use your automobile, do you ever get pulled over & asked for those
required Stamp of approval documents? Driver license & so on ? If so, how does this end up?
You mentioned towing yes, I understand that, OH YES, but this leaves me to think you are still
confronted,sometimes, maybe, with being harassed, etc. e.g., I may very well go to the flea market
today & get back from there & not be harassed by being pulled over because of unauthorized
license plate, as they call it, that the peace officer noticed. BUT, I may bepulled over & harassed.
Are you ever harassed, now, after sending in the document you posted earlier?
I will close by saying in their eyes, We the people of the U.S. (several states) are now, We the
SUBJECTS of another U.S. AND Subject to ITS jurisdiction. And as long as we are obedient
SUBJECTS & get their SUPERIOR authority grants, we will at least have SOME relief. You say, I want
quiet and peace, no stress, no games.Same here.
Oh, Would you consider posting a BEFORE document? Maybe dejure, A Godsend to this blog will
see it & see if anything additional will help. I have affidavits filed & made a matter of PUBLIC Record
of who I am, my parents, their parents,& on back, i.e. Great Grandparents, for 1 example These ARE
my ID papers. BUT these are seized too when I am harassed. I have racked my brain trying to know
WHO I have not sent same documents to in gov-co. Even went to the Secretary of State & had same
filed there. Its still the same ol same ol thing.
So far, however, lately at least, the harassing officer NEVER shows up for court. In this sense, it has
been a 180 turn. Dont go to the trouble of trying to explain about what appearing in court does
because my prior experiences have been they force me to appear. In jail attire. Why? because I did
not volunteer on my own to appear. They got me there anyway. Today, I am to weary & my health is
not that well & I dont want to be physically tortured & beat up anymore. There is always for everybody
a cant take it anymore point. It would be a relief for me to be a martyr if they would get it over with at
least fairly fast. Thats the best I can do because that is all I have left in me FOR THEM.
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February 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM

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Applessence, concerning towing expenses, would a commercial lien work citing harm of aggravated

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auto theftif you stop on private property, not the side of the road? It may not actually get a return of
your expenses, but after a few times, you probably wouldnt be towed as often. Im writing as much
for gathering information as for trying to help you.
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January 27, 2014 at 11:31 AM

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J.M. you requested if I would like a computer to post an address , Peter Q @. 5201 ATLANTIC BLVD.
UNIT 217 Jacksonville, Florida P/C 32207 ,Thank you and please indicate what I can barter for the unit .
Maybe an ounce or two of silver $
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Thanks Peter,
I have freely received & I want to freely give. But thank you for your precious offer. Tomorrow I will start
making arrangements for your computer. You are going to have to handle your internet connection
costs etc. I would do that for you too, if I could, but I cant, I regret to say. I will stay,or TRY to stay in
touch with you on this thread about the computer. Oh, PERSONally, I like Windows XP but it seems
most people like Windows 7. Tell me, what kind of computer you like & I will do the best I can to get
that type. If I an unable to get exactly what you want, Ill tell you what I can do, & you can tell me if
what I can do is good enough. I hope I am able to get EXACTLY what you would like to have. This will
make me happy.
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Peter, I need to hear from you before I help make arrangements to get you a computer. I said
tomorrow but, it wont be tomorrow unless I hear from you re: my message to you on January 27,
2014 at 12:30 PM
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We also need to at least try & have the computer shipped & requiring your signature for delivery. I
have had quite a few things stolen including my very last order from Amazon. I found the empty box
last Tuesday, 6 days after I was notified it was delivered while walking my dogs. I just dont want
your computer stolen after it is delivered.
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January 28, 2014 at 3:52 PM

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J.M. I will leave that to you, I am a novice when it comes to computers. Anything I receive will be new to
me so whatever you think is best. Generally the librairy is where I use the computer and a laptop is
accessable some of the time. The address given is a trusted friend that will be glad to sign for it. Once
again thank-you and thank-you for reminding me, I freely receive and freely give also, it works out .
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January 28, 2014 at 7:38 PM

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Ok, Now when I say tomorrow, it will be tomorrow. In fact, I am going to shop around starting in a
few minutes. Oh, you can have your trusted friend sign for it. I just hope he/she is trustworthy. I do not
know your friend. Im trusting that you do. I will have the computer shipped to the address you gave.
Re: Novice. I only KNOW how to turn one on & off & thats about it.
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January 29, 2014 at 7:12 PM

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Peter,
Here is the latest,
It is a Dell OptiPlex 745 Small Form Factor desktop computer & comes with an Intel Dual Core
1.8GHz Processor, 2GB of DDR2 Memory, 80GB Hard Drive, CD-ROM Optical Drive, and the
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium(32-bit) Operating System, & Keyboard & mouse.Expected
delivery date is Feb.4th but not guaranteed which is understandable. There may be a problem with a
signature required as the seller said that was the shippers choice. I will keep you up to date, or try
to with the information I receive Dont know what else to say at this time.
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January 31, 2014 at 4:31 AM

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Peter,
Does your friend have an e-mail address I could send him/her the tracking number re: your
computer? I understand, but to late, that some people may monitor this blog that have ulterior
motives. They never comment, but anyone can gain access to this or any other blog I would think.
Somebody may live on the other side of the world & have one of their friends who may live close to
where your computer is being shipped to. All that is necessary is for a phone call to be made to that
friend. Anyway, the date of arrival has not changed, as of yet anyway. Sometimes the weather plays
a big part in arrival times. I have proven that I have no wisdom by handling this as I have. My heart
has a mind of its own. I should have handled this strictly via e mail. Its something I did not think of. I
sure hope YOU get the computer.
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February 3, 2014 at 12:10 PM

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Scheduled Delivery:
02/05/2014
Last Location:
BOUND BROOK, NJ, US
Hope youre ok. Im concerned because of no response from you.Latest info is showing above. I
do not want to give out the tracking number on this blog & I have tried to explain why. As you see,
the delivery date has moved up a day. U.P.S is deliverer per latest info. Will you, Pete, tell me if
you get the computer?

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February 6, 2014 at 1:46 PM

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Peter,
The Computer was Delivered On:
Wednesday, 02/05/2014 at 5:33 P.M.
Tracking number U.P.S. 1Z3A91F70397815007
Since this is the latest info., NOW it makes no difference who has the tracking number. If you did
not PERSONALLY get the computer. Maybe you can contact U.P.S. & go from there. There is not
anything else I can do.

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January 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

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Great work. I am working on my own version now so I will not be in a rush when I need it (if ever). I see
that you reference express charitable trust entitled The Constitution of The State of Texas established
in A.D. 1876. Some States have had more than one constitution: Florida (1838, 1865, 1868, 1885,
1968), Pennsylvania (1776, 1790, 1838, 1874, 1968), Illinois (1818, 1848, 1870, 1970). In these States,
does the latest constitution replace the earlier constitutions? If so, should one describe it with the year it
was adopted? Should the older constitutions be mentioned?
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If you want to rely on any authority, you need to specify that authority as clearly as possible. If you
were to refer to only The Constitution of Pennsylvania when there have been five different documents
bearing the same title, you allow some ambiguity to enter into your claim. In theory the judge could
presume that you meant the The Constitution of Pennsylvania from A.D. 1790 rather than A.D. 1968.
Under that kind of pretext, the judge might dismiss your case. Thats an extreme possibility and
perhaps unlikely, but its still a possibility.
Insofar as I cited the authority of an earlier Constitution of The State of Texas, I was probably
referencing Article I of that Constitution which is the Texas Bill of Rights and is declared to be in
force in perpetuity. Therefore, I can reach back to older versions of the Constitution of The State of
Texas because their Article I still carries some authority.
But thats just for The State of Texas. It makes no sense for you to make claims on older and
presumably outdated versions of your States constitution unless they still have some authority that
you can prove. If those older versions no longer carry any authority, theres no apparent reason to
rely on them.
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Alfred, I am not sure there is any such thing as an outdated constitution. California has an 1849
AD Constitution, the one that came into existence with the California Republic as one of the
several states of the perpetual Union. There is a second constitution, which almost every STATE
has, around 1878, 1879, that, like the US Constitution, was essentially copied from the several

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states constitutions, but applied to the federal territories with such names as STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, (this state) located in the District of Columbia, which is a subdivision of the private
corporation UNITED STATES, and such constitutions have essentially been substituted for the
real constitutions of the several states of the union.
As you have pointed out many, many times, it appears to be a matter of venue: where do you
exist?

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Adask, why do you doubt the legality of sending your letter of inquiry to the judge?
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February 4, 2014 at 12:03 AM

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I understand my right of inquiry to be created by the governmental entity and/or the individual officer
who sent the original notice to me. Thus, I am only entitled to ask questions of that particular
governmental entity and/or the officer that sent the original notice. If the judge is not part of the
governmental agency that sent the original notice and/or the judge himself did not sign the original
notice, then the judge has not sent me a notice, the judge has not created my right of inquiry; I have
no right to pose questions to the judge.
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That explanation works for me. The officer has already been sent questions by registered mail
with the judge, court clerk, and sheriff being put on notice with copies of the questions. The
officers letter came back unaccepted, the others received theirs, so the judge, court clerk, and
sheriff are aware of the questions. Its Alabama where traffic tickets are deemed to be signed
and no signature required, according to the ticket. The original ticket/notice only has the
officers name (a state trooper), but no apparent indication that STATE OF ALABAMA or the State
of Alabama is a party to the notice such as plaintiff or complainant. It appears the trooper
initiated a judicial action on his own using a state approved form.. So, the trooper must be the
only one to properly send a notice of inquiry to. Would you agree?

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February 4, 2014 at 2:59 PM

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That would be my argument. However, if the ticket starts with a heading like DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION or CITY OF MOBILE MUNICIPAL COURT OF MOBILE, I believe that
whatever agency is specified at the top of the ticket is also subject to receiving your questions.
Thus, Id send questions to both the officer who issued the ticket and whatever agency he
worked for.
Insofar as the officer refused to answer your questions, the obligation to do so should fall on his
employer (governmental agency) named at the top of the ticket/notice. If that agency also
refuses, I would argue that Ive been deprived of the first element of procedural due process
(sufficient notice) and therefore the agency issuing the ticket would lose its legal capacity to take
me to the opportunity to be heard in some administrative court.
I would not enter the court believing that this argument would work at the trial court level. It might
work, but I wouldnt count on it. I would enter the court with the intent of creating evidence of my
deprivation of procedural due process that would stand up on my first level of appeal (the county
courts) or more likely to my second level of appeal (to a true, state appellate court).

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moon,
I am having the same problem in trying to send you an email as I am having with dejure. I cut &
pasted this email, > gr8ride4clyddatgmail. I get a notice that says, this appears to be invalid email
address, try sending anyway? Then I click yes, & a notice pops up that says, message not sent,
invalid email address.
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Yes, your point is well made.
The heading reads ALABAMA UNIFORM TRAFFIC TICKET AND COMPLAINT, which, it seems, opens a
door for discovering the meaning of ALABAMA. Just under the heading it reads: ALABAMA, COUNTY
OF(the county is in ALL CAPS). So, would you think the sheriff of the county.is a possible proper one to
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questions, although they werent sent to him. He was only put on notice of them.
Lets put a bit of flavor into the mix before I ask another question about the letter of inquiry.
Lets say that the alleged offender (listed as JOHN DOE on the TICKET AND COMPLAINT) did not
make an appearance in court at the stated date, time, and place,.concerning an alleged offense of
NO SEAT BELT. By way of a possible related offense, a copy of court clerk records was sent to an
ALL CAPS name and address. Apparently not a notice to appear, but a copy of court clerk records,
signed ( /s/ ) by the judge, listing a hearing date (as opposed to a plea docket date as mentioned
on the TICKET AND COMPLAINT).
Heres the question:
Does this arrangement, in your opinion, qualify the judge to receive the letter of inquiry?
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@ Does this arrangement, in your opinion, qualify the judge to receive the letter of inquiry?
Moon, Call whatever so called court this will be/is held in & ask if it a court of record. My
experiences have been that no matter what we do, they proceed like a bulldozer anyway in a court of
no record.. We dont get an appeal from a court not of record. The next step up is called a trial de
novo. It starts out as nothing has transpired.This is where your position stand really begins Do us
both a favor, if you will, & find out if you will be in any manner, communicating with a court of no
record.
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J.M., Thanks for your interest. According to Code of Alabama, Section 12-12-2, District Court,
where traffic infractions are of concern, is a court of record, or, at least, it shall be. If one actually
reads that code citation though, there is certainly room for wobble. Who keeps the record? When
are records actually required?
However, it appears I can arrange for my own reporter. My reporter uses video. That will probably
be a sticky spot with the court, but it appears I have a basis to insist on video reporting. Thats
WHENEVER I get to court, though.

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Check the statute and let me know what you get from it:
Universal Citation: AL Code 12-12-2 (2012)
Section 12-12-2
District court a court of record; preparation, maintenance, etc., of records of proceedings
generally; employment of reporters or provision for transcripts of proceedings by parties.
(a) The district court shall be a court of record.
(b) Records of proceedings shall be made, maintained and preserved according to rules
promulgated by the supreme court, but neither reports nor transcripts of proceedings shall be
required, except as provided by law or rule.
(c) Any party may employ a reporter or provide for a transcript of the proceedings on his own
account.
(Acts 1975, No. 1205, p. 2384, 4-110.)

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moon, good morning,well I now see its afternoon where you are
From what I can understand & at the point you are at now, I think Alfred has the best answer for
you. Alfred said in pertinent part, > I would enter the court with the intent of creating evidence of my
deprivation of procedural due process that would stand up on my first level of appeal (the county
courts) or more likely to my second level of appeal (to a true, state appellate court).< His full
message is dated on February 4, 2014 at 2:59 PM.
I will still email you, or try to.
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Hi Moon,
Oakie doak > (a) The district court shall be a court of record.< IF you, moon, "start out" in this "district
court" then, it's a court of record, although it is really a "statutory" court of record. Ok, from what I
understand re: where you "are" in this particular, by what "has transpired" & you mentioning who the
letter of inquiry should go to,etc. the "prostitutor" I think, whoever will be prosecuting the case should
have, be sent, a copy. Whoever your adversary will be, in court, speaking to the judge should be made
aware of your position via the letter of inquiry BEFORE this "case" gets into court. I said, above, whoever
will be, it may turn out there "won't be." Moon, I care for my fellowman. I am only trying to be of help. I
hope it is understood that what I say is not what I am telling anyone to do, it's what I, myself would do.
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pass on to you what I have done via affidavits as my stand BEFORE anything happens & when or IF
something does happen,I already have my army ready to start shootin. Oh, not knowing your time
element in this matter, dejure,< another poster has GREAT info on other threads. It's hard for me to
recall a lot of things but I will go back & see what thread dejure makes a comment on that may be of
help in your situation.
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Email is fineI dont know how to get to you without posting an address on here, though. Please
advise.
As for dejure writings, I looked into the 120 day idea, but it isnt applicable on this one. Is there
another dejure idea youre referring to?
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moon,
If you will, post an email address where I can reach you. What is that ol saying or whatever that
says, You say tah-mah toe, I say 2 may toe, you, moon, say prosecutor. I say, prostitutor.< Stole it
from, dejure. Yes, I admit, I am thief. But I am very choosy. I only steal from the very best. I am a
thief that has CLASS !!Then again, I could say I borrowed it from dejure, RIGHT ?? Oh, re: "the
living man" This seems to be the Name is the same game, program, remember that? Consider
this, & only for the sake of a point. 3 people are in front of a judge. Judge asks, who are you? #1
says, I am the living man. Judge says to the next man,Who are you? #2 says, I am the living
man, & so on. Moon, please leave an email address that you feel is safe if it can be done.

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The prosecutor was sent the original set of questions just as the complainant/officer was sent.
After considering complaint structures, signatures (or lack thereof), and inconsistencies, my feeling
is that if I do nothing further, this situation will settle into the dust of its own weight. The judge
probably does not want me in her court. She found me not guilty in another no seat belt situation
by introducing reasonable doubt and she said, at the end, we dont want to see you back here

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again. The sheriff probably doesnt want me in his jail because he fears I might help other bright
orange suits become aware and educated. He and the judge may be up for election this year
hmmmmm.
This, however, could be a test of the ALL CAPS name v. the lower case name. I want some official,
definitive language that, at least, sheds more light in that direction.
Thanks for your offer of help J.M. .
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@ This, however, could be a test of the ALL CAPS name v. the lower case name. I want some
official, definitive language that, at least, sheds more light in that direction.
All I need is the fact that they use it. But, there are excellent sources of on what is & is not a
proper name,etc. All caps is proper on a tombstone.One time the prostituting attorney said to
the Judge, Your honor will you please instruct the individual that just spoke to identify himself.
Judge said, please state your name for the record. At that time,I thought the word, individual
meant me & so I stated my name for the record, BAD BAD move on my part. Individual is one of
their terms Individual, in division of, divided & so forth. I unknowingly VOIDED everything I had
presented in my paperwork,< let's call it for now, AND by "identifying mysel"f as "requested" by
the prostituting attorney. I have learned that at least many terms they use, I should know the
meaning of & not touch them with a 20 foot pole.
@ my feeling is that if I do nothing further, this situation will settle into the dust of its own weight
Maybe so, but they also have what is called a warrant for arrest for failure to appear. I'm not trying
to discourage you by saying this. Have you considered A petition for writ of Mandamus to the next
level court? Now this is where I am weak in that I apparently do not know HOW to ask for
something in a or the "way" that would be honored even tho they know exactly what I am asking
for
This is another way dejure can come to the rescue. What a blessing he is to this blog. I am
having a BIG problem in trying to contact him via email but ask him on this blog what he thinks of
You, moon, "presenting" a Petition for writ of mandamus.

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I dont want to insult a respectable, hard working prostitute.by confusing one with a prosecutor. It
wasnt meant as a correction or any such thing to youcall them what you feel in your heart.
Like to hear more about the name game.
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@ I dont want to insult a respectable, hard working prostitute
Quit stealing my thunder !! Only I am allowed to make funny & hilarious comments. moon, I am
tired & when I get this way, I am too stupid to know when to stop, & I very often misunderstand
what is really said, or meant by the commen tay tor. I will at least try to make the effort to contact
you as soon as possible. Did you see my mandamus suggestion ? I think the prosecutor is
prostituting, himself. I call his pay, filthy lucre. Now lets stay friends. Just give me the chance to
correct myself when I am wrong. Anyone who does, is helping me. .Also, sometimes these
comments arrive out of chronological order, time wise. You may have already responded to
something when I ask about it but I might not get your response for a while.

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moon,
Once again, your email address of gr8ride4clyddatgmail is invalid according to what I am
notified of. Its one extreme to the other in that I hit the send button & I instantly get a notice that
says message sent. < This in reference to somebody else, NOT you, moon.Then I am notified
via this blog that the messages were NEVER received by the man I sent them to. With you, moon
I get a notice that says, message not sent, invalid email address.

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Applessence,
@ As you have pointed out many, many times, it appears to be a matter of venue:

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VENUE!!! You BETCHA !!! But, a few things must be done to make these servants of the law KNOW
what venue we claim to be in BEFORE we are charged, etc with any kind of violation in THEIR venue.
My comment is only for those who may be interested in this mass cycle of confusion we are trying to
untangle. Im not trying to educate anyone. Just adding to Applessences message
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Adask, J.M., and any others who might be interested (the cumulative experience, study, and
knowledge displayed on this site is amazing to me, and welcomed by me, the living man):
Concerning this mass cycle of confusion we are trying to untangle (thanks J.M. for supplying the
confusing phrase I was searching for), my focus is on immediate matters. Im looking at the
BEFORE that J.M. mentioned. I havent been to court on this particular situation and nothing is
scheduled before the last of Feb, so, I have a few days to do the BEFORE.
One reason Im seeking a basis for sending the letter of inquiry to the judge is that I have a perfect
opportunity to explore the possibility of a difference between the ALL CAPS name and the lower case
name. The JOHN DOE listed on the no seat belt complaint is not that opportunity, but is a matter
Ill want to explore later.
Associated with the same incident is a complaint of obstructing government operations. The
obstructing paperwork uses both an ALL CAPS name and a lower case name. My focus right now
is having a feasible way to ask the judge directly, but BEFORE: exactly whom do you want to
appear .
Heres some head knowledge concerning this particular situation:
This is a small town/county and Im known here in a certain way. Though my family has a long
history here, its not generally considered that Im from here. If one doesnt go to high school here,
one is not from here. Its not likely anyone will say about me: ye nois momma nis diddy nem.
(Adask, is there an interpreter for this site that speaks fluent Alabama? While you locate one, Ill take
a break and let my spell check recover.)
However, I regularly see and speak with these folks who run the courts and are in law
enforcement. Its not like the big cities where one is trying to communicate with a faceless name.
There is still, though, a wariness toward me that may be my ticket (enjoy the pun) to exploring a
possible difference between the ALL CAPS name and the lower case name.
Add this to the head knowledge as well: we are filmmakers and are considering some kind of video
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more impressive show might have me appear in court dressed in a bright orange jump suit.
Just a bit more head knowledge: the judge is a fervent University of Alabama fan. Further research
on your part may be necessary to appreciate the fact (oh, finally a facthmmmm) that bright orange
is particularly offensive to her.
Comments, thoughts, and ideas are welcome and will be appreciated
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I did not mean this statement, confusion we are trying to untangle, in any way as applying to
you, moon, & your current legal problem. Applessence made a comment to Alfred Adask. Read
the last line in her comment. That is what I was commenting on & about. It is so hard for me to
do anything right, communicating back & forth this way. I do not understand anything about
computers & most of the computer terms. My mass cycle of confusion comment had absolutely
nothing to do with your & my comments. I guess I should have put,> in reference
to,Applessences comment on February 6, 2014 at 11:47 AM. Dont be upset with me,moon,
please..

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moon,
IF IF I am understanding you, then you might be interested in the following
forum.dancehallreggae.com *Grown Folks Lounge*
Jun 30, 2008 5 posts 3 authors
This is the reason behind the use of all caps when writing a proper name. The US and State
Governments are deliberately using a legal fiction
I recall vaguely, Hobbs Harbrace College handbook had a thorough explanation of proper &
improper names. I dont know for sure if I am spelling the name of this book correctly, but it was
Hobbs College or Hobbs Harbrace something or another.. I typed in All caps names in the
Google search bar & a web page appeared & I cut & pasted the above information

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No worries, J.M. I thought the statement fit where I put it, so, thanks to you AND Applessence.
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Not following your thought, J.M., concerning the above mentioned dancehallreggae.
Its not my desire to make this a j-o-b, so Im looking for the most efficient way to avoid the expense
of energy, etc, as others on this site are doing. Some of my research has been on various websites
and you tube videos. Some ideas appeal to me, some dont make sense. Regardless of where I
search, most information comes from people of these several states: California, Colorado,
Washington, Oregon, Arizona, Texas, sometimes Georgia, and a bit from the Carolinas. Very little
from Alabama. Though things tend to be generally the same in every location, there are differences.
For example: simulating legal process, apparently, is a felony for those of Oregon.while it seems to
be a statutory misdemeanor according to Code of Alabama.
Alabama is a bit behind with people who insist on being something other than slaves. Those who
enjoy history will see the irony in that statement.
Someone had to do the research in other places in order to avoid being a slave. As it is now, many
someones have applied themselves toward non slavery in other locations. Maybe Im the one who
needs to encourage the swell here. Maybe Im the one who can wear the orange jumpsuit, if
necessary, to promote awareness here. Thats why Im seeking ideas and knowledge from others
of you who are further along the journey than me.
Oh, Ive been called a sovereign citizen and corrected the caller, the chief deputy sheriff. How am I
doing, so far?
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@ >Oh, Ive been called a sovereign citizen and corrected the caller, the chief deputy sheriff. How
am I doing, so far?

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I think you are doing great !! I too have been called a sovereign citizen and also asked by those
calling me that, how do you spell it? is it S-O-V-R-U-N is that how its spelled, then theres the
sarcastic chuckle & look along with their spelling sovrun. Ive been called the, Hey look who just
walked in, Y its the notice & demand man himself or who is it this time the notice & demand
man or the constructive notice & demand man Who do we have here today? moon, I could go on
& on. I have had to learn everything the hard way. When I was recognized as these above
mentioned known as is ziz, I thought I knew something, but I did not. STILL it was my way of
telling them to STOP OPPRESSING PEOPLE. Ok now, once again, go to Google search, , all
caps names < then click the magnifying glass or whatever you need to do for Google search to
search for those 3 words. A web page should appear that will give you MANY things to select
from re "All Caps Names", Names with all capitalization,< what it means,etc. Once again, I do not
know much ab out computers. Mayb e there are other ways to b ring up information ab out all caps
identities, names, etc. But, in my opinion it is a waste of time b ecause your adversary doesn't
care 1 whit ab out how much you know ab out all caps names. Whatever you make them (
adversaries) aware of re: the all caps name will b e declared to b e frivolous, specious, spurious,
immaterial, irrelevant, & without foundation & merit & a few more goodies. At least that WAS my
experience. BUT, mayb e I just did not present it in a way they would honor. I have had State
supreme & Final (top court) rulings that said what I was trying to say, & the b ottom rung
magistrates, judges just simply said, well I disagree. YEAH RIGHT, the lowest ranking
magistrate/judge over rules the highest courts, b y simply saying, I disagree 30 days, 45 days, 90
days, 364 days AND 500, 1,000, 2500,5000 dollars next please. HOWEVER,moon, there is
something called an affidavit, a POWERHOUSE document IF the right info is put in it & made a
matter of pub lic record & a few more things need to b e done re: the affidavit(s) & this is what I will
discuss via email. Also, rememb er, I am not aware of what you do know so don't b e upset with
me for writing to you ab out things that may b e old hat to you. BE GLAD that you have at least one
other man/woman to b e with you b ecause from what I have b ecome aware of you will need one
other "helper" b ut you will need someone who knows what to do under any circumstances. I had
nob ody & still don't. But, things have turned into a 180 for me, at least for the last 5 or so years.
Goodnight, I'm going to b ed. IF i wake up, I will email you, we'll go from there.

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moon,
@ J.M. I thought the statement fit where I put it,
Youre right. My BAD. Sometimes I think I try too hard to be clear in my comments & I only make it
cloudier. Some things can be understood differently. We can say something to 3 different people & it
could be understood in 3 different ways.
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Hey moon are you still out there? It looks like you & Peter, another Poster have left me.
If a court calls out a name (which is fictitious), and the accused answers to that name, even if he
says his name isnt spelled that way, he is still admitting that it is his name! The body of the
accused is present, what does it matter how its spelled now? Remember, either it is your name or
it is not your name. If its not your name, you dont answer to it. Period.( <Richard Anthony, www.
ecclesia.org) Since I am still notified that the email address you provided is invalid, I guess we will
just have to say fare-the-well. I don't know what else to do or say, except, shalom.
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P.S. I dont know why some of my messages appear/post as they do. I did not type anything slanted to
the right as it appears. italics, is that what its called? What once it was aint that way no more. Maybe
there is a different definition for written words that are slanted to the right. Usually when this happens,
only a part of my comment goes through. Im going to bed regardless of how this comment posts if it
does at all.
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moon, et.al.
Some of the below comments are really HARD to accept & follow, at least for me. Still, I certainly cannot
fault them ENTIRELY.I do not believe that God excepts us to just roll over & play dead
WHEN we are attacked.
Russell v. US (WD Mich 1997) 969 F.Supp 24. Petitionerclaims because his name is in all capital
letters on the summons, he is not subject to the summonscompletely without merit, patently frivolous,
and will be rejected without expending any more of this courts resources.
[To argue that your name is spelled in all caps is wrong, because then you are admitting it is your
name. A name spelled in all caps is not your name, and to say it is your name gives jurisdiction to the
court. Instead of saying, My name is spelled in all caps on your papers, one should say, My godly
name does not appear on your papers].

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Wyatt v. Kelly, Chief Bankruptcy Judge (WD Texas unpub 3/23/98) 44 USPQ2d 1578, 81 AFTR2d 1463,
98 USTC para 50326. Tried to sue judge for violating his civil rights by having his name printed in court
documents in a way other than the appellation this crank prefers. Crank reacted by refusing to respond
to prosecutions complaint whereupon the judge entered a Not Guilty plea on his behalf. Suit against
judge dismissed.
[#1: Civil Rights, which have men for their author, are an abomination to God because they create State
Worship. If you partake of mans created rights, you are under the power of the creator of those rights
(man). The creator determines what the created violated, not the other way around. #2: By him admitting
his name was spelled incorrectly, he admitted it was his name, and he, again, gave jurisdiction to the
court. #3: Scripture forbids us to go to courts of law, and commands us not to sue others, but to forgive
others. Therefore, he gave jurisdiction to the court simply by being lawless in Gods eyes.]
Gdowik v. US (Bankr. SD Fla unpub 7/23/96) 78 AFTR2d 6243 affd (SD Fla unpub 11/6/97) 228
Bankr.Rptr 481, 482 80 AFTR2d 8254. Claims that the use of his name JOHN E GDOWIK is an illegal
misnomer and use of said name violates the right to his lawful status was rejected.
[Basically, John confessed to, and answered to, his name in all caps. Since by doing so, he gives
jurisdiction to the court, it is no longer an illegal misnomer.]
US v. Frech (10th Cir unpub 6/16/98) 149 F3d 1192(t). Defendants assertion that the capitalization of
their names in court documents constitutes constructive fraud, thereby depriving the district court of
jurisdiction and venue, is without any basis in law or fact.
[The defendants already admitted it was their name, and answered to that name, so how can it be
fraud? The court is correct].
Giving Wrong Reasons
US v. Washington (SDNY 1996) 947 F.Supp 87. Finally, the defendant contends that the indictment
must be dismissed because Kurt Washington, spelled out in capital letters, is a fictitious name used
by the Government to tax him improperly as a business, and that the correct spelling and presentation
of his name is Kurt Washington. This contention is baseless.
[The accused made the wrong argument. True, it is a fictitious name. However, to say it is used
because the government wants to tax him improperly as a business is hypothetical and speculative.
Opinions are not law and have no standing in law. There are other reasons why the government uses
fictitious names, and to claim this one, without proof, is not a reason to dismiss the case].
Jaeger v. Dubuque County (ND Iowa 1995) 880 F.Supp 640 at 643. The court finds Jaegers arguments
concerning capitalization otherwise specious. The court routinely capitalizes the names of all parties
before this court in all matters, civil and criminal, without any regard to their corporate or individual
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[Notice the court qualified the term status. The court did not say without regard to their status, but only
to their corporate or individual status. Under the law, corporate and individual status is identical. Maxim
of Law: The law which governs corporations is the same as that which governs individuals. Jaegers
error was as follows; either he admitted he was an individual, or he did not rebut the presumption by
his accusers that he was an individual.]
Davis v. Deddens (SD Ohio unpub 4/18/98). I believe that not only is this case subject to dismissal
but it is also subject to sanctions under Rule 11. Making a distinction between all-capital letters and
capital and small letters is frivolous. Litigant tried to deny validity of traffic ticket because it printed the
courts name in all-caps.
[It does not matter how the courts name is spelled (it was spelled correctly since it is a fiction). It has no
bearing on the validity on a traffic ticket.] Similar court ruling in drug prosecution case US v. Wacker (10th
Cir unpup 3/31/99).
Rippy v. IRS (ND Calif unpub 1/26/99). Plaintiffs responseconsists of nothing more than a protest
against the capitalization of his name in the caption. Accordingly, summary judgment is granted in favor
of defendants and against plaintiff. The same ruling is in Hancock v. State of Utah (10th Cir unpub
5/10/99) 176 F3d 488(t).
US v. M.L. Lindsay (10th Cir 7/1/99) F3d, 99 USTC para 50648, 84 AFTR2d 5102. Tax evasion
defendants refusal to read court papers that capitalized his name and his other misbehavior justified
the court refusing to reduce his sentence.
Stoecklin v. US (MD Fla unpub 12/8/97). Tax evader complained of his name being in a prior order
issued by this court and thenmakes and incorrect reference to this form of using all capital letters as
being proper only in reference to corporate entities. This is an incorrect statement of the lawis
illustrative of [his] continued harassing and frivolous behavior.
Boyce v. CIR (9/25/96) TC Memo 1996-439 affd (9th Cir 1997) 122 F3d 1069. An objection to the
spelling of petitioners names in capital letters because they are not fictitious entities' was rejected.
US v. Lindbloom (WD Wash unpub 4/16/97) 79 AFTR 2d 2578, 97 USTC para 50650. In this
submission, Mr. Lindbloom states that he and his wife are not proper defendants to this action because
their names are not spelled with all capital letters as indicated in the civil caption. The CAPS argument
and the refused for fraud contention were rejected.
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Sadlier v. Payne (D Utah 1997)974 F.Supp 1411. Crank called it killed on paper.
Braun v. Stotts (D Kan unpub 6/19/97) affd (10th Cir unpub 2/4/98).
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Liebig v. Kelly-Alle (EDNC 1996) 923 F.Supp 778).
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Napier v. Jones (WD Mich unpub 2/10/95).


Wacker v. Crow (10th Cir unpub 7/1/99).
Brown v. Mueller (ED Mich unpub 6/24/97).
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State v. Martz (Ohio App unpub 6/9/97).
Cole v. Higgins (D. Ida unpub 1/23/95) 75 AFTR2d 1102 rept adopted (D. Ida unpub 2/27/95) 75 AFTR2d
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Capaldi v. Pontesso (6th Cir 1998) 135 F3d 1122.
Russell v. US (WD Mich 1997) 969 F.Supp 24.
In re Shugrue (Bankr. ND Tex 1998) 221 Bankr. Rptr 394.
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Peter
February 10, 2014 at 11:05 AM

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DEAR J.M. I have received the computer in the mail, Thank-you. It was a good thing that it was shipped
to a friend that is home all the time as the package was left at the door. I see how parcels can
disappear, as with me Im not home much due to my work schedule and there would be a risk of it
being on the doorstep for an extended time period.
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J.M.
February 10, 2014 at 2:43 PM

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Peter,
WOW!!!
I thought something, lost for words, bad etc, happened to you since I did not hear from you.
@Thank-you.<You are most welcome my friend. A keyboard & mouse was supposed to be included,
were they? IF you have a telephone, you can gain access to the internet fairly cheap,around 10 "bills"
a month Also, there are many providers that give up to the 1st 6 months, free.
I want to know if you also received a mouse & keyboard because those items were "paid" for also.
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Peter
February 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM

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Yes, Thanks again!!

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February 12, 2014 at 10:03 PM

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Peter,
I forgot about a Monitor. Today, I was in a thrift Store & I saw some beautiful Monitors for 15 & 20
bucks. So, if you are near a thrift store check it out, or better still, call first & ask IF they have any
Monitors. Peter, you have a 1 year guarantee for your computer. Dis you get any paperwork to that
effect? If not, & IF we can communicate by email I will tell you the name of the company the computer
was purchased from, etc. I would rather not give out anymore info to you on this blog, & I would
rather not say why.
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cie Demenagement Martin


May 29, 2014 at 7:29 PM

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Hey there! Would you mind if I share your blog with my facebook group?
Theres a lot of folks that I think would really appreciate your content.
Please let me know. Thank you
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May 29, 2014 at 10:17 PM

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Please do. Im always looking for more readers. Thanks.
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