IRC Seminar from Mon Dec 15, 1997 Mini Speed-Seduction Seminar Transcript Conducted December 15, 1997, 7:00 PM PST

, hosted by Ross Jeffries. All comments here are copyright 1997 Ross Jeffries and may not be reproduced, posted or quoted in any manner whatsoever without the express written consent of Ross Jeffries. This version has been edited to remove personal comments, and references to persons not in attendance in the seminar. Topics: Dark Sun use on Voice Mail Services Psychic Seduction Dr. Latourette's Silva Mind Control seminar ************************************************** *** Topic for #sargy: Don't break the knobs on your Eq . . . and don't play with mine. *** Topic for #sargy set by `Odin` on Monday, December 15, 1997 8:49:45 AM *** Sandworm (Sandworm@la-ip22.via.net) has joined channel #Sargy [Sandworm] HELLO! ESR: IS that the Cat man PlayR: Hey Sandworm! PlayR: Just got your post.. [Sandworm] Ignore the email going out to the list..too late..for tonight's IRC session..vianet's mail server fucked it up! ESR says hi to Ross [Sandworm] EDDIE! GREAT FUCKIn' POST! You are the Sargiest! ESR: Did you read my Email Ross [Sandworm] FUCKING AMAZING! Riker1: Hi Ross. [Sandworm] EDDIE IS THE BOMB! Riker1: ESR is so money. [Sandworm] Riker! ESR: naw man, your' swinging platinum Ross. PlayR: Ill have to go back and read that one... [Sandworm] I'm WEARING platinum! I'm SWINGIN' PLUTONIUM! [Sandworm] I have been using pieces of the Dark Sun on a voice mail dating service..just playing..and the chycks are going APESHIT! ESR: careful, if that plutonium gets close to Kryptonium, you'll fusse into a problem [Sandworm] Oh my god! You wouldn't believe the responses! Especially on the intimate encounters section... [Sandworm] you all want to hear some of the patter? PlayR: Yup. `Odin`: Yea.. why do you ask? ;-) ESR says lay it on my man [Sandworm] First I've got a 60 second ad running...took a CD of t.v. tunes and played the Mission Impossible theme in the backround... [Sandworm] It says, "Good evening ladies...the man you are listening to goes by the name of Ross..while to all appearances he is just another devilishly handsome, debonair,

man about town..he is in reality..the most dangerous agent of love and romance the world has ever seen [Sandworm] Your mission..should you decide to accept it..is to make connect with him in box 3588...draw close to him..learn his secrets..and discover how wonderful the two of you can be together... [Sandworm] As always if you or any of your IMF team are caught or killed, the secretary will disavow all knowledge of your actions....this message will self-destruct in 5 seconds! [Sandworm] Now..that gets attention..and lots of curiosity..cuz I ain't told them NUTHIN' about myself! `Odin`: Except that you're different! [Sandworm] When they leave messages for me..they've raised their hands...thats when I leave a response with the DS language... ESR: DS? [Sandworm] I say something like, "I'm interested in living life from that special place..that place where anything can be tried out..where anything can be tried out..where anything can be explored..that place where ANYTHING can be possible... ESR: ohh ss `Antonio`: dark sun [Sandworm] It's that place right next to the essence of who you are as a woman...where you keep your most exciting memories..where you ponder fantasies...daydreams..amazing possibilities...... glen_ster: hi bros `Odin`: hey glen PlayR: Dude... [Sandworm] And the question I ask myself is, "What is it..about the way certain people effect us..that causes us to think of them in that special place....to hear this voice...and feel this presence from that spot...in such a way...that no matter how we try to deny our desire to ACT...it takes on a life of it's own..compelling..powerful real..because we're being touched in all those special places...in all those special ways we LONG to be touched...it's the kind of c [Sandworm] Yes..I want to step into this special place with this special person and explore ANYTHING we can make real together... [Sandworm] Pause for applause! *** Sandworm has set the topic on channel #sargy to Getting Chycks Hot On The Phone With Dark Sun! [Sandworm] They just go freakin' ballistic, brothers! Riker1: clap clap clap... PlayR: Why is that pattern called 'Dark Sun'? [Sandworm] back in 2 minutes `Antonio`: name of a book Player PlayR: Should I read it? ESR: hey maw, are you awake Riker1: I though it was something to do with a ThermoNuclear metaphor. `Odin`: It's about building of the atomic bomb `Antonio`: the book is about the bomb Riker1: mmmkay

PlayR: Oh.. I get it.. PlayR: mmmmkay `Antonio`: so yes player, your success in SS depends upon reading it ESR: and all the emails on the list maw: no ..I'm sleeping [Sandworm] Ok..back.......the book is about the building of the H-bomb! PlayR: In that case... `Antonio`: and it's a RPG [Sandworm] And about how they solved the theoretical problem of compressing deuterium with x-rays.....to get thermonuclear burning to take place... [Sandworm] They were stuck for 5 years til they made the breakthrough... [Sandworm] Which is about how long I've been working on SS..with help from the Bros the last 2-3 years, of course! J-Altfeld asks... ***Ross***, remind me & the bros why its called Dark Sun? Riker1: ..becuase of it's power...simliar to that of an H Bomb? [Sandworm] Dark sun sort of compresses a woman's mind...gets it ready for BURNING! J-Altfeld: ;) ESR: where's the A Bomb. [Sandworm] Once you compress the deuterium you can keep it burning..there is NO theoretical upper limit to the yield of a thermonuclear device...b]Because what compression allows you to do is get critical mass with MUCH smaller amounts of material... J-Altfeld: brb OriGami: the purer the Pu239 the less mass needed to get critical mass ESR: Psychic Seduction Riker1: Hopefully that does not mean seducing psycho chicks. Riker1: :) ESR: you never know. I gosta becareful [Sandworm] The a-bomb is the primary, ESR..it's what compresses the secondary, which is the deuterium! J-Altfeld: back `Antonio`: A bomb is a necessary part of the H bomb [Sandworm] Actually, it's no longer a function of the Pu239 as much as it is the deuterium which when it burns will compress lots of smaller fissionable material seeded around it... [Sandworm] what you get is fission-fusion-fission... maw is back, with a personalised version of Dork Sun. [Sandworm] DORK SUN? [Sandworm] HAHAHAHAHA! maw: :-) J-Altfeld: Antonio: "A bomb is a necessary part of the H bomb" J-Altfeld: Thats right... *** Sandworm has set the topic on channel #sargy to Physics Corner..With Dr. Ross Strangelove! J-Altfeld: Without A bomb, the H bomb is just "H"

[Sandworm] So..anyway..the Dark Sun language is like the A-bomb that compresses the deuterium...preparing it for unlimited burning! OriGami asks what H-bomb PlayR: Is that the spacial anchoring part? ESR: Got it.. maw: I had a friend, and when she is with a guy that she really likes, all she wants to do is be with them, and give, head over heels, absolutely blowing them away with her energy, to the point that made her come to realise its a matter of going down into the unconscious, where you get that feeling that this is what you really want. Now, me, I think, that often a blink with the eyes can put you right into that state, didn't it. [Sandworm] Now...the second part of the pattern is...I talk about how sometimes because of things going on..stresses in our life..relationships we're in that constrict us...we shut away..lock away parts of who we are..but they are still there in that special place..and what would it be like for a person to just right now..feel all those parts wake up...look through our eyes...hear with our ears..feel with our bodies and say, "Yes..I want this right now is the time to [Sandworm] MAW! THAT WAS TOO MONEY! maw: Sorry for the interruption Ross, I had been toying with that for a while, I just HAD to get it out of my system. PlayR: That is the compression part... ESR: no that's the H-bomb [Sandworm] Hey guys..I wanna talk about Dr. Latourette's Silva Mind Control seminar I went to.. Stygian: What was that all about? PlayR: Didnt know he was a dork. [Sandworm] SILVA IS THE SHIT! IT WORKS! Stygian has a face of confusion [Sandworm] Latourette taught me something...SOMETHING IMPORTANT! [Sandworm] Ok..Silva teaches you: [Sandworm] 1. A systematic method to enter altered states for creative problem solving....dream work..psychic healing..telepathy... [Sandworm] 2. Detailed step by step instructions for all the stuff I just mentioned... maw: ...leading to psychic seduction, I gather? PlayR: Is there a book you'd recommend? [Sandworm] A bit boring at times, but workable..not very flashy..not too sophisticated..but it WORKS! It's sort of the reliable baseball player who ALWAYS gets a base hit and occasionally some home runs....GOOD STUFF! [Sandworm] Anyway...I learned an interesting thang from Dr. L.who by the way I think is THE MONEY! Eddie..whattya think of Dr. L! [Sandworm] What I learned is about USING and MOVING your physical body when you do psychic stuff! ESR: he was a very impressive guy.. he was very bright, and listen alot, Bronko taught me some of the stuff he learned, and I think it's top notch [Sandworm] In Silva, they actually have you reach out with your hands and scan the person you are remotely scanning and healing! maw: can I reach out a scan tits this way?

[Sandworm] And when you want to read someone's thoughts...once you go into trance and visualize them..you actually REACH OUT WITH YOUR ARMS and imagine taking off their head and putting it on YOUR HEAD! [Sandworm] YOU HAVE TO DO THE ACTUAL MOVEMENTS..don't just imagine it! Actually reach out with your arms..feel the head in your hands! maw: wow. [Sandworm] Yes..maw you can! maw: I used to imagine that.. but now so much her whole head on my head, just her mouth on my head. (ok I'll shut up now) [Sandworm] It's akin to the Equalizer..you have to actually reach up with your hands and push the levers..not just imagine it...reaching up and using your hands wires it in somehow! [Sandworm] >>>>slaps maw with a large trou! [Sandworm] trout! maw lols at the idea of doing this head swapping thing in public. maw: I don't know.. are you really supposed to do this, physically? [Sandworm] eeerie! There's a fox in the field right outside my window..they make the WEIRDEST half bark/half crow's caw! ESR: get SarGy to EAT IT!! [Sandworm] Maw..you can do it WITHOUT the person actually being present..jus timagine they are there and do it! ESR: JUST DO IT!! ESR: read my post MAW [Sandworm] Now...the key is..you need to have SOME kind of body movement involved in the operation..whatever you are doing... [Sandworm] Like..I'm experimenting with another psychic thing... [Sandworm] wanna hear it maw? [Sandworm] I go into trance...then I imagine this chcyk I want to seduce..that is am GOING to seduce...laying in her bed with her back to me..she's laying on her side...I imagine the bed is about 10 feet from me..actually on the other side of the wall of my living room! OriGami: think of the rabies threat, silly SarGy jumps out the window after the fox maw: please continue Ross [Sandworm] From that distance I sort of hear the thoughts INSIDE her head! OriGami: ping maw: yes, please, sandworm! [Sandworm] (Jeez..no shit..the think is vocal tonite!) And I don't think a tiny fox could take Sargy..he's a BIG cat.. maw: esr: which post? the one of the non-calibrating brother B? PlayR: How would you use this for getting laid? J-Altfeld: back sorry I've been on the phone with a lot of people... J-Altfeld: ;) J-Altfeld: Awesome material up above... J-Altfeld: gonna have to take time to review it later! ESR: yeah. the Hulk one. read the end

ESR: what a Lammer.. maw: sand: ok... question: does it work? do you get "insights" about how she thinks this way? ESR: hey I don't remember trying what Ross said, but Sunday night I felt that I could read her thoughts, and I instantly knew how to get her in bed. ESR: it may be similar to what Ross is doing though [Sandworm] Then what I do is I suddenly get a sense of very rapidly moving forward..the picture of her gets huge like it's both being pulled into me AND I am moving toward it..and then it's like I am IN her head...and then I hear her voice in MY head..and I begin to have a dream FOR her..where she is watching me eat her...getting all hot...and I feel her body in the bed..her nipples getting hard..her pussy lubricating..I feel her pussy gripping and pulsing..bearing d [Sandworm] Eddie..tell us about your experience! [Sandworm] You mean the chyck with the PHD? maw: brb ESR: K, based on what ****** said.. He have told me that DR. L said to meditate, by counting backwards form 3,3,3, to 2,2,2 to 1,1,1, and he says that this was done like 20 times in class.. [Sandworm] What it has in common with the other technique is : 1. Identification with the subject rather than "sending" a message and 2. A sense of movement..I actually move my body forward a bit like I'm being tugged forward... ESR: I did this for the past several days, any time I could, and that night. somthing just clicked, like I knew how to do it, easily.. [Sandworm] Yah..lots of going in and out of trance..it's called "fractionation" [Sandworm] You mean with the chyck? You read her..were in her mind? At the party? [Sandworm] You saw with different eyes? You saw INTO her..not just her surface..and THAT act alone was what she sense is MY guess and she DUG it..it surprised her..hit her where she lives as a WOMAN! [Sandworm] You were a MAN who could touch her..not a boy who was trying! ESR: Yeah!! But I read her once at the begining, and I had a flash of what I needed to do, not like pictures, or anything. I just got a feeling that If I go for it, It will come out exactly the way I want it to. [Sandworm] EDDIE IS THE MONEY! HE IS SWINGIN a HUGE NLPENIS! [Sandworm] I gotta go in 5 mnintues! Gotta do a phone consult with a Bro who just bought a home study course! ESR: I am just a humble man ross, thanks.. I be just learning, and getting out there and doing it. Saint11: Damn! Just got here. PlayR: That's kewl... maw: ok. now someone please point out to me the major difference between what you describe here and the stepping-in type of 'standard' calibration? [Sandworm] Calibration can mean a LOT of things..it means to compare against..to get a baseline with which to measure... [Sandworm] You can calibrate distances... [Sandworm] This is more IDENTIFICATION! [Sandworm] Here's another way to view it...

[Sandworm] Are you ready? [Sandworm] God..I really AM a great teacher... maw: well, ok, stepping in means for me to view the world from her view, with her feelings. maw: I'm ready [Sandworm] It is the difference between assessing and ACCESSING! One implies a disassociation..the other an IDENTIFICATION! J-Altfeld: Humble too ;) J-Altfeld: LOL RJ J-Altfeld: GREAT ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!! maw: ok. so what you do with the silva thing is dissocation? maw: or the other way round? [Sandworm] Nope...other way round! maw: now thats strange. because for me the stepping in would be pointless if it wasn't to take on their identity to access whats going on. [Sandworm] Maw...what you do is DIRECT once you've identified.... [Sandworm] Go rent a movie "The Eyes of Laura Mars". maw: yeah, but for me calibration goes first, then comes leading. since I might have to go through "intermediate" states first. [Sandworm] Modeling does NOT require Deep Trance Identification... [Sandworm] But whatever works for ya, Maw! maw: I saw the movie. some times ago.. scary, but good. faye, wasn't it. [Sandworm] That's what counts! J-Altfeld: THANK YOU ROSS guys listen up -- modeling DOES NOT REQUIRE deep trance identification. maw: thats right, and I never thought of it as being deep trance identificaion. J-Altfeld: modeling can be done consciuously!!! [Sandworm] Correct, JA! ESR: I think what Ross is saying is that when you get into a state, and allow yourself to see though her eyes, you are calibrating from the inside, not the outside, and that's what we both did.. maw: well I am sure since I don't think that I do much unconsciously anyway :-) [Sandworm] Well put Eddie! J-Altfeld: Maw -- MOST of what you do you do unconsciously, sorry, my friend... maw: ESR: I'm sorry, but for me this IS the same thing. [Sandworm] Oh..has everyone met my new pussy? Tabbatha Kitty? Sargy's sister? Will you all take a sec and say hello! J-Altfeld: its just that its mostly automatic behavior! J-Altfeld: You may consciously decide to brush your teeth but the motions you go through are programmed in. Riker1: This is similar to "saying" stuff "at" her vs. experiencing states "with" her, you both become part of the process. maw: jon: you didn't pick up on that, did ya :) "I don't think I do much unconsciously bla bla: :-) ESR: why would you need to Calibrate anything, if you can get inside of it, and see how it works form the inside.. That's what Mozart, Di Vinci, and Tesla did

J-Altfeld: sorry --- you're RIGHT you don't know consciously what you do unconsciously J-Altfeld: perils of reading email... studgirl: good point J-Altfeld: or chats... J-Altfeld: you can't get the inflection intended... maw: anyways. what I do and use appears to me as if I aquired it wqith quite some conscious effort. I might get better at it, and naturally that makes it become more unconsicous. does that make sense? [Sandworm] Actually, if you want to know more about Mozart's creative strategy..Robert Dilts wrote a book about him and Disney and Einstein and Sherlock Holmes! Called Strategy of Genius..a bit stuff but BRILLIANT! *ESR* no that was the other girl, that ****** was reading the seminar notes to. she was freaky, and I was ready to throw her out the window.. Pam is cool.. maw: my impression is that we all seem to do the same thing, but differ in our interpretation of the word "calibration". which is ok, right ESR: I know it's brilliant, I bought the book, and it kicks ass.. [Sandworm] I think Robert Dilts would be APPALLED by SS! [Sandworm] I admire his intelligence but I think he'd HATE ME! SEMINAR Modular Aspects of Installing Compulsions Seminar from Mon Dec 15, 1997 Mini Speed„Seduction Seminar Transcript Conducted December 15, 1997, 7:00 PM PST, hosted by Ross Jeffries. All comments here are copyright 1997 Ross Jeffries and may not be reproduced, posted orÏquoted in any manner whatsoever without the express written consent of Ross Jeffries. This version has been edited to remove personal comments, and references to persons not in attendance in the seminar. Topics: Dark Sun use on Voice Mail Services Psychic Seduction Dr. Latourette's Silva Mind Control seminar ************************************************** Ìñ *** Topic for #sargy: Don't break the knobs on your Eq . . . and don't play with mine. *** Topic for #sargy set by `Odin` on Monday, December 15, 1997 8:49:45 AM *** Sandworm (Sandworm@la„ip22.via.net) has joined channel #Sargy [Sandworm]ó HELLO! ESR: IS that the Cat man PlayR: Hey Sandworm! PlayR: Just got your post..

[Sandworm]ó Ignore the email going out to the list..too late..for tonight's IRC session..vianet's mail server fucked it up! ESR says hi to Ross [Sandworm] EDDIE! GREAT FUCKIn' POST! You are the Sargiest! ESR: Did you read my Email Ross [Sandworm] FUCKING AMAZING! Riker1: Hi Ross. [Sandworm] EDDIE IS THE BOMB! Riker1: ESR is so money. [Sandworm] Riker! ESR: naw man, your' swinging platinum Ross. PlayR: Ill have to go back and read that one... [Sandworm] I'm WEARING platinum! I'm SWINGIN' PLUTONIUM! [Sandworm] I have been using pieces of the Dark Sun on a voice mail dating service..justÏplaying..and the chycks are going APESHIT! ESR: careful, if that plutonium gets close to Kryptonium, you'll fusse into a problem [Sandworm] Oh my god! You wouldn't believe the responses! Especially on the intimate encounters section... [Sandworm] you all want to hear some of the patter? PlayR: Yup. `Odin`: Yea.. why do you ask? ;„) ESR says lay it on my man [Sandworm] First I've got a 60 second ad running...took a CD of t.v. tunes and played the Mission Impossible theme in the backround... [Sandworm] It says, "Good evening ladies...the man you are listening to goes by the nameÏof Ross..while to all appearances he is just another devilishly handsome, debonair, manÏabout town..he is in reality..the most dangerous agent of love and romance the world hasÏever seen [Sandworm] Your mission..should you decide to accept it..is to make connect with him inÏbox 3588...draw close to him..learn his secrets..and discover how wonderful the two of youÏcan be together...

[Sandworm] As always if you or any of your IMF team are caught or killed, the secretaryÏwill disavow all knowledge of your actions....this message will self„destruct in 5 seconds! [Sandworm] Now..that gets attention..and lots of curiosity..cuz I ain't told them NUTHIN'Ïabout myself! `Odin`: Except that you're different! [Sandworm] When they leave messages for me..they've raised their hands...thats when I leave a response with the DS language... ESR: DS? [Sandworm] I say something like, "I'm interested in living life from that special place..that place where anything can be tried out..where anything can be tried out..where anythingÏcanýÿÿÿ be explored..that place where ANYTHING can be possible... ESR: ohh ss `Antonio`: dark sun [Sandworm] It's that place right next to the essence of who you are as a woman...where you keep your most exciting memories..where you ponder fantasies...daydreams..amazingÏpossibilities...... glen_ster: hi bros `Odin`: hey glen PlayR: Dude... [Sandworm] And the question I ask myself is, "What is it..about the way certain people effect us..that causes us to think of them in that special place....to hear this voice...and feelÏthis presence from that spot...in such a way...that no matter how we try to deny our desireÏto ACT...it takes on a life of it's own..compelling..powerful real..because we're beingÏtouched in all those special places...in all those special ways we LONG to be touched...it'sÏthe kind of c [Sandworm] Yes..I want to step into this special place with this special person and exploreÏANYTHING we can make real together... [Sandworm] Pause for applause! *** Sandworm has set the topic on channel #sargy to Getting Chycks Hot On The Phone WithÏDark Sun! [Sandworm] They just go freakin' ballistic, brothers! Riker1: clap clap clap... PlayR: Why is that pattern called 'Dark Sun'? [Sandworm] back in 2 minutes

`Antonio`: name of a book Player PlayR: Should I read it? ESR: hey maw, are you awake Riker1: I though it was something to do with a ThermoNuclear metaphor. `Odin`: It's about building of the atomic bomb `Antonio`: the book is about the bomb Riker1: mmmkay PlayR: Oh.. I get it.. PlayR: mmmmkay `Antonio`: so yes player, your success in SS depends upon reading it ESR: and all the emails on the list maw: no ..I'm sleeping [Sandworm] Ok..back.......the book is about the building of the H„bomb! PlayR: In that case... `Antonio`: and it's a RPG [Sandworm] And about how they solved the theoretical problem of compressing deuterium with x„rays.....to get thermonuclear burning to take place... [Sandworm] They were stuck for 5 years til they made the breakthrough... [Sandworm] Which is about how long I've been working on SS..with help from the Bros theÏlast 2„3 years, of course! J„Altfeld asks... ***Ross***, remind me & the bros why its called Dark Sun? Riker1: ..becuase of it's power...simliar to that of an H Bomb? [Sandworm] Dark sun sort of compresses a woman's mind...gets it ready for BURNING! J„Altfeld: ;) ESR: where's the A Bomb. [Sandworm] Once you compress the deuterium you can keep it burning..there is NO theoretical upper limit to the yield of a thermonuclear device...b]Because what compressionÏallows you to do is get critical mass with MUCH smaller amounts of material... J„Altfeld: brb OriGami: the purer the Pu239 the less mass needed to get critical mass ESR: Psychic Seduction Riker1: Hopefully that does not mean seducing psycho chicks. Riker1: :) ESR: you never know. I gosta becareful [Sandworm] The a„bomb

is the primary, ESR..it's what compresses the secondary, which is the deuterium! J„Altfeld: back `Antonio`: A bomb is a necessary part of the H bomb [Sandworm] Actually, it's no longer a function of the Pu239 as much as it is the deuterium which when it burns will compress lots of smaller fissionable material seeded around it... [Sandworm] what you get is fission„fusion„fission... maw is back, with a personalised version of Dork Sun. [Sandworm] DORK SUN? [Sandworm] HAHAHAHAHA! J„Altfeld: Antonio: "A bomb is a necessary part of the H bomb" J„Altfeld: Thats right... *** Sandworm has set the topic on channel #sargy to Physics Corner..With Dr. Ross Strangelove! J„Altfeld: Without A bomb, the H bomb is just "H" [Sandworm] So..anyway..the Dark Sun language is like the A„bomb that compresses the deuterium...preparing it for unlimited burning! OriGami asks what H„bomb PlayR: Is that the spacial anchoring part? ESR: Got it.. maw: I had a friend, and when she is with a guy that she really likes, all she wants to do is be with them, and give, head over heels, absolutely blowing them away with her energy, to the point that made her come to realise its a matter of going down into the unconscious, where you get that feeling that this is what you really want. Now, me, I think, that often a blink with the eyes can put you right into that state, didn't it. [Sandworm] Now...the second part of the pattern is...I talk about how sometimes because of things going on..stresses in our life..relationships we're in that constrict us...we shut away..lock away parts of who we are..but they are still there in that special place..and what would it be like for a person to just right now..feel all those parts wake up...look through our eyes...hear with our ears..feel with our bodies and say, "Yes..I want this right now is the time to [Sandworm] MAW! THAT WAS TOO MONEY! maw: Sorry for the interruption Ross, I had been toying with that for a while, I just HAD to get it out of my system. PlayR: That is the compression part... ESR: no that's the H„bomb [Sandworm] Hey guys..I wanna talk about Dr. Latourette's Silva Mind Control seminar I

went to.. Stygian: What was that all about? PlayR: Didnt know he was a dork. [Sandworm] A IS THE SHIT! IT WORKS! Stygian has a face of confusion [Sandworm] Latourette taught me something...SOMETHING IMPORTANT! [Sandworm] Ok..Silva teaches you: [Sandworm] 1. A systematic method to enter altered states for creative problem solving....dream work..psychic healing..telepathy... [Sandworm] 2. Detailed step by step instructions for all the stuff I just mentioned... maw: ...leading to psychic seduction, I gather? PlayR: Is there a book you'd recommend? [Sandworm] A bit boring at times, but workable..not very flashy..not too sophisticated..but it WORKS! It's sort of the reliable baseball player who ALWAYS gets a base hit and occasionally some home runs....GOOD STUFF! [Sandworm] Anyway...I learned an interesting thang from Dr. L.who by the way I think is _ THE MONEY! Eddie..whattya think of Dr. L! [Sandworm] What I learned is about USING and MOVING your physical body when you do psychic stuff! ESR: he was a very impressive guy.. he was very bright, and listen alot, Bronko taught me some of the stuff he learned, and I think it's top notch [Sandworm] In Silva, they actually have you reach out with your hands and scan the person you are remotely scanning and healing! maw: can I reach out a scan tits this way? [Sandworm] And when you want to read someone's thoughts...once you go into trance and visualize them..you actually REACH OUT WITH YOUR ARMS and imagine taking off their head and putting it on YOUR HEAD! [Sandworm] YOU HAVE TO DO THE ACTUAL MOVEMENTS..don't just imagine it! Actually reach out with your arms..feel the head in your hands! maw: wow. [Sandworm] Yes..maw you can! maw: I used to imagine that.. but now so much her whole head on my head, just her mouth on my head. (ok I'll shut up now) [Sandworm] It's akin to the Equalizer..you have to actually reach up with your hands and push the levers..not just imagine it...reaching up and using your hands wires it in somehow! [Sandworm] >>>>slaps maw with a large trou!

[Sandworm] trout! maw lols at the idea of doing this head swapping thing in public. maw: I don't know.. are you really supposed to do this, physically? [Sandworm] eeerie! There's a fox in the field right outside my window..they make the WEIRDEST half bark/half crow's caw! ESR: get SarGy to EAT IT!! [Sandworm] Maw..you can do it WITHOUT the person actually being present..jus timagine they are there and do it! ESR: JUST DO IT!! ESR: read my post MAW [Sandworm] Now...the key is..you need to have SOME kind of body movement involved in the operation..whatever you are doing... [Sandworm] Like..I'm experimenting with another psychic thing... [Sandworm] wanna hear it maw? [Sandworm] I go into trance...then I imagine this chcyk I want to seduce..that is am GOING to seduce...laying in her bed with her back to me..she's laying on her side...I imagine the bed is about 10 feet from me..actually on the other side of the wall of my living room! OriGami: think of the rabies threat, silly SarGy jumps out the window after the fox maw: please continue Ross [Sandworm] From that distance I sort of hear the thoughts INSIDE her head! OriGami: ping maw: yes, please, sandworm! [Sandworm] (Jeez..no shit..the think is vocal tonite!) And I don't think a tiny fox could take Sargy..he's a BIG cat.. maw: esr: which post? the one of the non„calibrating brother B? PlayR: How would you use this for getting laid? J„Altfeld: back sorry I've been on the phone with a lot of people... J„Altfeld: ;) J„Altfeld: Awesome material up above... J„Altfeld: gonna have to take time to review it later! ESR: yeah. the Hulk one. read the end ESR: what a Lammer.. maw: sand: ok... question: does it work? do you get "insights" about how she thinks this way? ESR: hey I

don't remember trying what Ross said, but Sunday night I felt that I could read her thoughts, and I instantly knew how to get her in bed. ESR: it may be similar to what Ross is doing though [Sandworm] Then what I do is I suddenly get a sense of very rapidly moving forward..the picture of her gets huge like it's both being pulled into me AND I am moving toward it..and then it's like I am IN her head...and then I hear her voice in MY head..and I begin to have a dream FOR her..where she is watching me eat her...getting all hot...and I feel her body in the bed..her nipples getting hard..her pussy lubricating..I feel her pussy gripping and pulsing..bearing d [Sandworm] Eddie..tell us about your experience! [Sandworm] You mean the chyck with the PHD? maw: brb ESR: K, based on what ****** said.. He have told me that DR. L said to meditate, by counting backwards form 3,3,3, to 2,2,2 to 1,1,1, and he says that this was done like 20 times in class.. [Sandworm] What it has in common with the other technique is : 1. Identification with the subject rather than "sending" a message and 2. A sense of movement..I actually move my body forward a bit like I'm being tugged forward... ESR: I did this for the past several days, any time I could, and that night. somthing just clicked, like I knew how to do it, easily.. [Sandworm] Yah..lots of going in and out of trance..it's called "fractionation" [Sandworm] You mean with the chyck? You read her..were in her mind? At the party? [Sandworm] You saw with different eyes? You saw INTO her..not just her surface..and THAT act alone was what she sense is MY guess and she DUG it..it surprised her..hit her where she lives as a WOMAN! [Sandworm] You were a MAN who could touch her..not a boy who was trying! ESR: Yeah!! But I read her once at the begining, and I had a flash of what I needed to do, not like pictures, or anything. I just got a feeling that If I go for it, It will come out exactly the way I want it to. [Sandworm] EDDIE IS THE MONEY! HE IS SWINGIN a HUGE NLPENIS! [Sandworm] I gotta go in 5 mnintues! Gotta do a phone consult with a Bro who just bought a home study course! ESR: I am just a humble man ross, thanks.. I be just learning, and getting out there and doing it. Saint11: Damn! Just got here. PlayR: That's kewl... maw: ok. now someone please point out to me the major difference between what you describe here and the stepping„in type of 'standard' calibration? [Sandworm] Calibration can mean a LOT of things..it means to compare against..to get a baseline with which to measure...

[Sandworm] You can calibrate distances... [Sandworm] This is more IDENTIFICATION! [Sandworm] Here's another way to view it... [Sandworm] Are you ready? [Sandworm] God..I really AM a great teacher... maw: well, ok, stepping in means for me to view the world from her view, with her feelings. maw: I'm ready [Sandworm] It is the difference between assessing and ACCESSING! One implies a disassociation..the other an IDENTIFICATION! J„Altfeld: Humble too ;) J„Altfeld: LOL RJ J„Altfeld: GREAT ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!! maw: ok. so what you do with the silva thing is dissocation? maw: or the other way round? [Sandworm] Nope...other way round! maw: now thats strange. because for me the stepping in would be pointless if it wasn't to take on their identity to access whats going on. [Sandworm] Maw...what you do is DIRECT once you've identified.... [Sandworm] Go rent a movie "The Eyes of Laura Mars". maw: yeah, but for me calibration goes first, then comes leading. since I might have to go through "intermediate" states first. [Sandworm] Modeling does NOT require Deep Trance Identification... [Sandworm] But whatever works for ya, Maw! maw: I saw the movie. some times ago.. scary, but good. faye, wasn't it. [Sandworm] That's what counts! J„Altfeld: THANK YOU ROSS guys listen up „„ modeling DOES NOT REQUIRE deep trance identification. maw: thats right, and I never thought of it as being deep trance identificaion. J„Altfeld: modeling can be done consciuously!!! [Sandworm] Correct, JA! ESR: I think what Ross is saying is that when you get into a state, and allow yourself to see though

her eyes, you are calibrating from the inside, not the outside, and that's what we both did.. maw: well I am sure since I don't think that I do much unconsciously anyway :„) [Sandworm] Well put Eddie! J„Altfeld: Maw „„ MOST of what you do you do unconsciously, sorry, my friend... maw: ESR: I'm sorry, but for me this IS the same thing. [Sandworm] Oh..has everyone met my new pussy? Tabbatha Kitty? Sargy's sister? Will you all take a sec and say hello! J„Altfeld: its just that its mostly automatic behavior! J„Altfeld: You may consciously decide to brush your teeth but the motions you go through are programmed in. Riker1: This is similar to "saying" stuff "at" her vs. experiencing states "with" her, you both become part of the process. maw: jon: you didn't pick up on that, did ya :) "I don't think I do much unconsciously bla bla: :„) ESR: why would you need to Calibrate anything, if you can get inside of it, and see how it works form the inside.. That's what Mozart, Di Vinci, and Tesla did J„Altfeld: sorry „„„ you're RIGHT you don't know consciously what you do unconsciously J„Altfeld: perils of reading email... studgirl: good point J„Altfeld: or chats... J„Altfeld: you can't get the inflection intended... maw: anyways. what I do and use appears to me as if I aquired it wqith quite some conscious effort. I might get better at it, and naturally that makes it become more unconsicous. does that make sense? [Sandworm] Actually, if you want to know more about Mozart's creative strategy..Robert Dilts wrote a book about him and Disney and Einstein and Sherlock Holmes! Called Strategy of Genius..a bit stuff but BRILLIANT! *ESR* no that was the other girl, that ****** was reading the seminar notes to. she was freaky, and I was ready to throw her out the window.. Pam is cool.. maw: my impression is that we all seem to do the same thing, but differ in our interpretation of the word "calibration". which is ok, right ESR: I know it's brilliant, I bought the book, and it kicks _ Sandworm _ ] I think Robert Dilts would be APPALLED by SS! [Sandworm] I admire his intelligence but I think he'd HATE ME!

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