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The Pinay Circle is a secretive group that few people realize. According to some, the Pinay Circle is more secret than the Bilderberg Group. It's an Atlanticist organization of dealing with retired intelligence operatives, military officers, and politicians that try to make changes in government. Some believe that they are credited with engineering the election of Margaret Thatcher in the UK and the possible ousting of Australia's Gough Whitlam. David Guyatt wrote about this issue, but I don't believe in his Left/Right paradigm information. See, Guyatt demonizes collectively any conservative. I don't subscribe to that tenet at all. In the 1970's, there were coup d'etats among many governments seen as "communists." By the 1980's, those in the Right side of the paradigm rose up with leaders like Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and others. The Secret societies and other groups exploited many legitimate concerns of the
conservatives to prop up puppet leaders in order to control society more effectively. One example is how inflation was very high in the late 1970’s and in 1980. So, the elite allow populist fervor to elected Bohemian Grover Ronald Reagan to be elected President in 1980. Soon, folks in a high number realized that Reagan enacted bad austerity measures, the debt increased in his watch, and he became a honorary 33rd Degree Freemason. Austerity measures deal with the immoral cutting of services that can harm citizens. During the Great Depression, people were starving to death. That is why FDR (though he wasn’t perfect and did errors) expanded Social Services like Social Security and the good Food Stamp Act to prevent mass poverty in America. Reagan tried to break down the Glass Steagal Act (that ended in 1999. Reagan‘s actions in the economic world was called
“Reagonomics,” but this doctrine came from Frederick Hayek and others. Hayek believed via his 1944 book called “The Road to Serfdom” that socialist and communist theories inspired the rise of fascism). This is a lie since the Nazis executed SocialDemocrats, Communists, and anti-fascists. Hitler & the Nazis suppressed labor unions. The Nazis were a bunch of extremists that didn‘t represent conservatives or liberals. I don‘t agree with communism though. The Jesuit Communist Reductions of the Guarani Native Americans of Paraguay was exploitative against the Native Americans back in the 1600’s. Hayek advanced the views of the Mont Pelerin Society, which spread his views
on economics. Recently, John Stossel talked with Bill O‘Reilly about Hayek. Stossel doesn’t want any interference of the government in the market even if that intervention could benefit the general welfare of the people. Stossel purposely omitted that Hayek hated nationalism. Stossel was slick. In life, you have every right to use your voice in a forthright manner in order to change the injustice in the world. In our time and generation, we aren’t going to be mental slaves. We are going to freely think for our ourselves and fight against any form of evil.
President Ronald Reagan permitted the warfare in Nicaragua, and he worked in the end of the Cold War. Ronald Reagan promoted extreme free trade and nearly no regulation against
speculation. So, he promoted the Austrian Economic School, and the London School. The deal is that Reagan believed in the doctrines of Thatcher. Some provisions such as Regulation Q, which allowed the Federal Reserve to regulate interest rates in savings accounts, were repealed by the Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980. Furthermore, Larry Summers, Rubin and Greenspan deregulated further the economy with their support of the repeal of the Glass Steagell Act in 1999. Really, Austrian economists are always harsh to Keynes as they view his proponents as socialist spenders. Yet, both doctrines (of Austrian & Keynesian economics) are created and funded by the same families. These families include the Morgans and the Rockefellers. So it's basically just a dialectic. One ideology is a false opposition to the other ideology. Then, you have Austrians like Thomas J. DiLorenzo trying to support the robber barons. This is typical of him since he‘s a professor of economics at the Jesuit Loyola College. What's Capitalism if you're running cartels or near monopolies. These internationalists exploit the US, the military, and monetary wealth to use it for their agenda. While, people get mad on the US and the Americans (this only tells some of the story because it's about a cabal that sits on America and abuses it as a puppet). Now, austerity measures are common place even in America (not just in Greece) with thousands of teachers laid off nationwide in the USA. US Secretary of Education Arne Duncan indicated that between 100,000 and 300,000 public education positions in the US are in danger of being terminated. As A Mohit has written:
“…More than one quarter of Obama’s first term has elapsed, and his administration is still blaming it on the mess they inherited. Perhaps it is time to talk about their own mess: the escalation of war in Afghanistan and Pakistan; the lining of pockets of Wall Street executives under the pretext of “too big to fail;” giving a bonanza to the pharmaceutical companies in the name of health care reforms; and now this farcical Wall Street reform and shedding of crocodile tears for the main street. There appears no end in sight of deception. Obama condoned firing of the entire faculty and staff at Central Falls High School in Rhode Island on March 1. He lauded the action as an example of what should be done at schools around the country in the name of bringing accountability. Meanwhile,
Wall Street is reporting record earnings, but there is nothing to gloat about. A country’s true wealth depends on the earning of its production sector, namely revenue from its nuts-and-bolts companies and value added by its intellectual community. The administration knows very well that their slogan of jobless recovery is a mere pretense…”
Hayek inspired the Pilgrim Sir Anthony Fisher to want to spread free market think tanks all over the Earth.. Also, Hayek promoted an anti-law philosophy and a supranational authority to control our countries. This is pro-new world order ideology that some Libertarians like Stossel don’t want you to know. Hayek wrote that: “…[If] economic transactions between national bodies who are at
the same time the SUPREME JUDGES OF THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR, who BOW TO NO SUPERIOR LAW and whose (elected) representatives cannot be bound by any considerations but the immediate interest of their respective nation, [the result] must end in clashes of power…A true system of law which guarantees both that the certain rules are invariably enforced and that the authority to enforce these cannot use it for any other purpose, for its task of enforcing the common law the SUPERNATIONAL AUTHORITY MUST BE VERY POWERFUL…” Therefore, The Road to Serfdom is a propaganda piece for a New World Order. This is why I woke up fully to economic populism in early 2010. My eyes are all wide open now. Monetarism doesn‘t work long term since it puts a cap on economic expansion (hence living standards and population levels can decline). You have to allow a nation to produce, transport, and sell goods to be a economic blessing. The economic populist policy of having Government services mixed with private services in one nation has been the profound policy of Presidents George Washington, John Quincy Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and even John F. Kennedy (including Henry Clay, Henry Carey, Benjamin Franklin, and others). This is contrary to the free trade radicalism that was advocated by Lord Shellburne, Jeremy Bentham, John Locke, and Adam Smith [with his Invisible Hand Theory]. Smith advocated the evil, imperialist British East India Company. Shelburne criticized the legitimate parts of the July 4, 1776 Declaration of Independence. I‘m not committed to von Mises‘ economic philosophies or fascism in anyway. It is morally right to provide food, medicine, health, education, and other real services to any human being. The Pinay Cercle was
created by its founder Antoine Pinay, who was the Premier of France, in 1951. Jean Violet was an organizer of the group as well. He was a member of the secretive fascist group called the CSAR or the Comite Secret pour l'Action Revolutionnaire. It has its own initiation rites like Freemasonry. Violet was arrested for aiding the enemy after WWII, he was release, and became a member of Opus Dei. Pinay was a Catholic too. Also, Violet soon managed to hook up with Opus Dei luminaries as Alfredo Sanchez Bella and Otto von Habsburg, who had founded the European Centre of Documentation and Information (CEDI) in 1949. Jean Violet was a Le Cercle member show was trained as an intelligent agent by former Nazi spy chief General Reinhard Gehlen. Some called the Pinay Cercle “Le Cerle.” It has been more clandestine than the Bilderberg Group. Both the Bilderberg Group and the Pinay Cerle have members including Henry Kissinger, the Roman Catholic Zbigniew Brzezinski and David Rockefeller. Each three of these people have links or are members to the influential political groups of the Trilateral Commission, the CFR, and even
the Royal Institute of International Studies (which is the twin of America's CFR). Now, Zbigniew
Brzezinski wrote a book titled 'Between to Ages', which was published in 1970. That book believed in political and economic communication among the regions of the Earth like North America, Western Europe, and Japan. David Rockefeller loved the book and invited him to organize a private discussion forum to implement these ideas. This allowed the Trilateral Commission to exist by 1973. Zbigniew Brzezinski would promote a technocratic state and aid the Muhajadeen in the late 1970’s. In his book Brzezinski gave a good description of the new, emerging globalist elite: "Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites, but now they are composed of international businessmen, scholars, professional men, and public officials. The ties of these new elites cut across national boundaries, their perspectives are not confined by national traditions, and their interests are more functional than national. These global communities are gaining in strength and as was true in the Middle Ages, it is likely that before long the social elites of most of the more advanced countries will be highly internationalist or globalist in spirit and outlook. The creation of the global information grid, facilitating almost continuous intellectual interaction and the pooling of knowledge, will further enhance the present trend toward international professional elites and toward the emergence of a common scientific language (in effect, the functional equivalent of Latin). This, however, could create a dangerous gap between them and the politically activated masses, whose "nativism"— exploited by more nationalist political leaders—could work against the "cosmopolitan" elites." (1970, Zbigniew Brzezinski, 'Between Two Ages - America's Role in the Technetronic Era', p. 29) Zbigniew Brzezinski was an militant anti-Communist and according to Webster Tarpley has a covert hatred of Russia to this day. He is more of a hardliner than what is shown by the media. For, example, he supported the Shah in Iran and lured the Soviet Union into Afghanistan to crush more of the Soviet‘s military. Pilgrim Cyrus Vance, who was the Secretary of State under Carter, worked in these times as well. . Antoine Pinay was powerful in
Europe and America. He have created links with President Richard Nixon. By May of 1952, Antoine Pinary attended the Bilderberg inaugural meeting in Oosterbeek, Holland. In 1969, Pinay worked with the lawyer working for the French intelligence Service SDECE named Jean Violet and Archduke Otto von Habsburg to create Le Cerle (They began secretly recruiting men of influence as members). They wanted to shift the balance of political climate in Europe for more of right paradigm via a campaign of propaganda (with the aid of private intelligence services). Stephen Dorrill is an author who believes that there are inter-connections between Le Carcle and the Gladio netowrk to get "communists" when Communism was funded by the International bankers for decades. Even NATO's SHAPE program in the 1950's was largely made up of ex-Nazis. Le Circle was more hands on and more involved in direct action than the Bilderberg Group. Le Cerle is heavily made up of intelligence leaders, senior military officers, politicians, banks, and VIPs. Time Out Magazine revealed its existence by 1975 when it released 1500 internal documents. The documents have been missing. Le Cercle Chairman in that time Brian Crozier was involved in the covert action group called "The 61." Han von Machtenburg (which is a pseudonym) is a senior official of
Germany's Intelligence serve called the BND is a member of Crozier's 61. He had been exchanging full reports on Crozier's secret get together with Hans
Langemann, who was formerly a senior ranking officer of Germany's intelligence service of the BND (and latterly Head of Bavarian State Security). Langemann in
a fit of depression blew the whistle on a number of sinister conspiracies to the left wing German glossy magazine Kronket. Langemann said that Crozier worked with the CIA for years. and that: "...It must therefore be concluded that MI6 is fully aware of, if not indeed one of the main sponsors of", Crozier’s "diverse circle of friends in international politics..." Additional subjects covered in the Langemann papers include the "involvement of the main intelligence and security agencies both as information sources and as recipients for information in these institutions." The papers show that as "undercover financial transactions for political aims" that would be utilised by conducting "international campaigns aiming to discredit hostile personalities or events," the "creation of a (private) intelligence service specialising according to a selective point of view" and the "establishment of offices under suitable cover each run by a corordinator from the central office." It's easy to prove that Le Cerle have ties to the CIA, the Bilderbergers, Propaganda Due or P2, the Opus Dei, the Jonathan Institute, etc. (being funded by the CIA). Members have include CIA Director William Colby, British SIS/MI6 Department Intelligence Nicholas Elliot, Franz Josef Strauss (German Defense Minister, Head of CSU party and Bavarian Premier), Alfredo Sanchez Bella (head of European operations for Spain’s Secret Service and closely connected to Opus Dei), Giulio Andreotti (former Italian Prime Minister, P2 member and Mafia confidant), General Antonio de Spinola (head of the Portuguese putschists), etc. Some Le Cerle members want the French people to unite with Germany. So, Le Cerle is a secretive, privately funded and transnational discussion group. It meets in parts of the world to promote European integration (as apart of Vatican Paneuropa groups. An unified Europe as we know is a Vatican brainchild for centuries. You can look at the history of the Holy Roman Empire to witness that truth). Some British elite are in the leadership of Le Cerle as well. Today, Lord Norman Lamont is the Chairman and President of Le Cerle. He was a very influential politician and he worked with the Rothschilds from 1968 to 1969. He is a member of the Privy Council. He sought the release of the criminal Pinochet, is a Bilderbergers, and is apart of the Eurosceptic movement in Britain. The Anglo American Elite are heavily influenced by the Pilgrim Society (with interests in it ruled by the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Astors, the Whitneys, Lazards, Morgans, etc.). Some were founders or leaders of the Royal Institute for International Affairs, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Atlantic Councils, the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, the British Invisibles, and others. Other leading Pilgrims include these men: Lord
Roll, Lord Carrington, Arthur Dean, Gabriel Hauge, Henry Heinz, Richard Holbrooke, Henry Kissinger, John J. McCloy, Lord Kerr, David Rockefeller, Robert V. Roosa, Cyrus Vance, Paul Volcker, and John Whitehead. Charles Savoie additionally listed Sir Peter Sutherland and George Ball as Pilgrims, both also important globalists. Even H.G. Wells met with Pilgrims in Great Britain during November of 1913. He was apart of the Coefficients. This was a 14 member pro-Empire dining club that influenced the direction of the British Empire. Some of their members include Fabian Socialists like Sidney and Beatrice Webb even. The Fabian Socialists influenced the agenda of the British Labour Party even New Labour. Fabian Socialists acted more of the left side of the Left/Right paradigm. Other famous Pilgrims today are James Baker and Edmund Rothschild.
One famous member of Le Cerle person was CIA direct William Colby. Colby worked with Pilgrim Lord William-Rees Mogg. Rees-Mogg's articles years ago advocated giant cuts in public expenditure and radical moves to roll back the state--and he praised Newt Gingrich for pushing these same policies in the United States. Under the title ``It's the elite who matter,'' Rees-Mogg argues that ``in future Britain must concentrate on educating the top 5%, on whose success we shall all depend.'' Mogg wanted the elite 5% of the world to control 95% of the people as virtual slaves. He was a Malthusian. Mogg has links with the high level aristocratic families of Britain like Duke of Devonshire (or Cavendish. He’s one of the most powerful British persons in the world), Pilgrim President Lord Carrington (another one of the most powerful British persons in the world), Lord Rothschild, and Prince Charles. With Colby, Le Cercle have key connections with the CIA. The late Alexander M. Haig Jr. was a Knight of Malta and a Pilgrim. The Cecil Family has been in the Jesuit camp since the crypto-Catholic Lord Burghley (William Cecil). Well known Le
Cercle participants include William Colby, William Casey, Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Edwin Feuler. I want to mention this though. I known tons of British Patriots that loved Britain, but fought against evil. Unlike Lyndon LaRouche, I don’t have an anti-British fetish. The reason is that tons of British people legitimately want freedom and justice in the world. I don’t have some bigoted hatred against the UK or the British people at all. Notice that LaRouche legitimately talks about the Knights of St. John and the evil history of the British Crown, but refuse to expose the Knights of Malta, the Vatican links to evils, and even the Ustashi Holocaust back in World War Two. This Papal network is a persistent enemy, but with God‘s help, we will be victorious.
The late King Hussein from Jordan used to receive millions from the CIA. The 1001 Club group have ties to Le Cercle. The 1001 Club head up many of the establishment’s environmental movement to control lands & wealth (while ignoring some of the real
environmental problems in the world today). British Le Cercle even desired to steal the resources like oil, in the Persian Gulf, the rubber and tin of Malaya, and the gold (including cooper and precious metals) of South and Central Africa. Armey opposed Colonel Nasser‘s government of Egypt. British Imperialism didn’t end in 1945. They just went covert with groups like the 1001 Club, the Knights of St. John, etc. The 1001 Club is headed by royals, European bloodlines, and the rest of the corporate elite. One big Royal in the 1001 Club was Prince Hans Adam II of Liechtenstein. He was the absolute ruler of his nation. Others are of course SMOM King Juan Carlos, and Prince Philip has ties to the group. The 1001 Club do represent Big Oil & internationalist corporations from BP to De Beers. Le Cercle is a key part of the Vatican network and other groups that wanted globalized world system along with ties to the agenda of forming a more unified Europe. *The goal of feudalism, the Holy Roman Empire, etc. didn’t die with the end of the Middle Ages. This agenda still commences in the 21st century.
Appendix A: Discussions on Various Issues
My Words are in bold. Another Dialogue with a Christian t: Tim are there
holy week in the US? do u celebrate good Friday? Me: no We're not required to celebrate that. There is nothing wrong with spiritual contemplation on the resurrection of Jesus Christ though. I'm a non-conformist personally. I don't believe in doing things for the sake of doing it. t: I think your stance are slowly becoming politically correct? Me: I believe in independent thinking to achieve succinct thinking. How so? t: you love Arabs ? i think we should love the Jewish people Me: You love all human beings regardless of background. We should love Jewish people and Arabic people equally. t: i don’t feel I’m going to love a terrorist Me: I guess you do realize that many Arabic people are Christians. t: Muslims Me: Most Arabic people aren't terrorists and you know this. t: dominant faith Me: Most Muslims aren't even of Arabic descent. So, this is not being politically correct. t: Saudi all Muslims
98 percent Me: It's about being politically tolerant and respectful. Indonesia have more Muslims than Saudi Arabia. Most Muslims aren't of Arabic descent. Also, most Muslims don't believe in Wahabbi ideology. t: is terrorism in Islam Me: The British elite funded the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood. t: literal? or originally intended Me: Terrorism made by some Muslims aren't justified. Yet, these people are a minority. t: Muhammad do chopped heads Me: I think you conflate Muslim with Arabic, which is baiting. You know that many Arabic people are Christians. t: why they are encourage to study Islam Arabic Me: Also, Muhammad is one man. t: if its universal Me: I don't believe in Muhammad. You can study Islam to see where many Muslims come from and offer legitimate rebuttals to their faith in a authentic fashion. t: you believe in Muhammad?
this is madness! Me: No I believe in God. Muhammad was a false prophet. t: ahahaha Me: Yet, you seem to scapegoat. I don't follow the neo con's ideology of scapegoating people of a different faith than me. t: why people enjoyed working in America even more than in Europe? Me: It's culturally different in the USA. t: Filipinos felt at home in the US Me: We typically are very competitive and in America, there is less vacation time than in Europe. t: going to US is more than tourism they go there to find a greener pasture Me: Europeans have more free time and more opportunities for benefits. Greener pasture? Not everything in America are peaches and cream. America has more freedom than some countries in Europe. That's true. Yet, Americans are a whole lot more materialistic than Europeans. t: are we in the end times? I felt so
many earthquakes Me: I think so.
Me: I don't think Iran has an active nuclear weapons program for a military usage. Iran is ruled by a cruel dictator and the citizens of Iran deserve their own freedom and tranquility. That is true. t: is Ramses a tyrant? Me: Technically yes He was an authoritarian ruler in ancient Egypt. t: how bout king David? Me: He was a monarch in a theocracy. You can make the case that David wasn't a tyrant in the league of other tyrants. I don't believe in theocracies. t: Ramses is a god king Me: He called himself that. Indeed. t: why do people believe he is a god clearly he is human like us Me: That's blasphemy of course. He ruled in the peak of ancient Egyptian military power. Some people followed the false concept of hero worship and the inaccurate belief of man being a god (which relates to pagan principles). t: do u think the notion of prove your worth is misleading? Me: What do you mean?
t: people say they will respect you when you proved your worth Me: A human being doesn't need anyone's respect. Except for God's approval. Now, you being born proves your worth equally to every human. t: do u think we humans should prove our worth? Me: no t: then no development Me: We prove our worth to God alone. We have development in our lives and morality, but we shouldn't suck up toward anyone. t: Caligula made his horse a senator Me: right He was apart of the Julio-Claudian bloodline I think. t: so Americans despite tyranny? despise Me: Most Americans do. We like individual liberty and personal freedom. t: what’s your comment on the dalai lama? Me: That is why the Bill of Rights was created in the first place even though sometimes America doesn't practice what they preach. The Dalai Lama is a Buddhist leader. t: is he genuinely compassionate and kind? Me: Tibet should have independence, but the Dalai Lama isn't perfect. I have to look into this man to see the total picture of him.
IN the USA, the media shows one side of him being compassionate and loving. t: ok? then? what’s the point men\ Me: Webster Tarpley criticizes him. t: he says kindness and love is his religion criticize of what? Me: He feels that he has ties to the CIA and the intelligence community, etc. He thinks that he possessed feign piety, etc. t: dalai lama is more of a PC leader Me: I see.
t: is pope john Paul perfect ? are popes connected to the Julio claudian concept? is a pope king or a priest? Me: The Pope acts like a King. The Pope has no relation to the Bible. Its origin is from the ancient Mystery schools of Babylon and Egypt. Even his mitre relates to Dagon or the Semitic fish god. t: thats chick;s fantasy I’m not sure of that all I know he is a false teacher that’s all but being meticulous I’m not that concerned I ask is the pope role similar to a Caesar?
Me: He is similar to the concept of a Caesar. He calls himself Holy Father, which is blasphemy. He think he's some representative of God on Earth when there is no evidence for that at all. t: absolutely none Me: Chick in my mind is right on that. t: I find the semiramis Me: That isn't a fantasy to outline the Dagon link. t: a bit unbelievable Me: Semiramis is different than the mitre though. t: is the semiramis tale true? accd to chick version? Me: It's most probably based on a Mesopotamian person after Nimrod's time. t: have you seen the movie holy family? Me: No What is that movie about? t: the movie about the young Jesus
My discussion with a person A Discussion with a Christian Again (My words are in bold) I have communication with the Christian today in April 12, 2010.
t is Offline t will receive your Chat message after signing in. t: is illuminati not existent? should I do=about they don’t exist? Me: The Bavarian Illuminati don't exist. The modern Illuminati as a network exists. t: what illuminati is referred on apologetics the one
in Obama deception and fall of republic? Me: The Illuminati is found in Fritz Springmeier's research. t: are knights of malta real? Me: Yes They are a very real organization who head many corporations, etc. t: Obama is worse than bush? too leftist Me: Obama is a corporatist like Bush. Obama is slightly more "liberal" than George W. Bush is on some issues. Yet, they are very similar in terms of their foreign policy ideas. Each believe in the war on terror. t: I thought obama will have the US soldiers retreat Me: Obama wants the troops in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Obama desires permanent military bases in Iraq. You know this. t: did he promised he will make the GIs come back from Iraq Me: Retreat? t: I mean go home Me: I rather we retreat and have diplomacy than warfare for the sake of executing a war mongering, nefarious strategy in the world. There is nothing wrong with the troops going home in a legitimate fashion. t: is obama a candidate for tyranny
what’s your stance on military bases in central Asia?> Me: The bases in Central Asia is apart of the geopolitical battles among the West and China/Russia for the resources in Eurasia. Eurasia is one of the new battlegrounds for economic world hegemony in the 21st and 22nd centuries. They are the new front in economic resource extraction among the elite. t: 22nd centuries we are not living that time Me: Yes, the 22nd century is a new century, but many of our same problems will exist in the 22nd century. I like to think ahead of time. t: hope 21st century is the last century evahhhh Me: That is your right. t: I think mid east and Israel war can explode anytime Me: That is your opinion. I think evil people want tensions in the Middle East unnecessarily. When a balanced approach is a purely overt remedy to advance true tranquility in that region. t: is it bad to want biblical prophecy Me: No. t: happen right straight in my eyes Me: It is bad to desire nihilism and evil to exist among innocent human beings though. Bible prophecy is being fulfilled all of the time indeed. t: is that true earthquakes
are caused by elites? Me: Technology does exist for that to occur. t: what tech is that? Me: The technology is HAARP related or various scalar waves utilized in the Earth. t: that’s a some sort of tremor generator? Me: In a way, that's correct precisely. t: or some thing that can cause abnormalities in tectonics> Me: Earthquakes naturally occurring is caused by shifting fault lines in the Earth. t: by the way is tectonic plates a prove and cause in earthquakes? which made tectonics move oceans? winds? Me: Tectonics move by many factors. One major way is the lava flowing in the crust of the Earth and graduation pressure in the Earth. These natural forces move the crust and fault lines. When the fault lines collide, it can create Earthquakes and volcanoes to erupt. Sometimes mountains can develop when Teutonic plates merge as well. t: is this cause an accurate description of earthquake "the earth rest on water and water rest on wind and wind rests on space when wind blows it causes the quakes"? Me: No. t: winds blows water and the water made earth shakes? Me: The Earth is on the crust moving around lava.
t: I just found it in an Indian science book Me: Winds blowing water is related to pressure system and other things. Not an earthquake. necessarily. t: so not sufficient to quake? Me: These pressures flow worldwide. No t: ahhhh again to make it clear when winds blow the waters oceans I mean that does not cause quakes sorry I’m recording this for references Me: No, the Earthquake can cause water to flow into various locations causing a tsunami. Earthquakes don't originate the water flow. It can cause it. t: so its more the post quakes made water violent Me: Yes t: than other way around? Me: Yes t: good
I’m just curious of your illuminati article I may find those Me: Why so? t: almost non existent are they humans? Me: The real Illuminati exist as a network today. They are humans. t: how bout reptilians? conspiracy? Me: That is disinformation. I don't believe in the existence of Reptilians. t: will a Christian go to hell if he does not attend church? Me: Not necessarily. A church is important though. I want to make this clear. A church isn't just some big cathedral. A church can be a smaller location that can assist people's spiritual needs. t: being a lone Christian is a weak one? easily fooled? Me: Being a lone Christian isn't someone who's weak. With God, you're not alone anyway. It is better though to link up with like minded Christians. t: my friend told me since I’m not church active
he says a loner might be easily influenced by aberrants Me: That isn't true per se. Not all people alone are manipulated by the wiles of the world. t: so still possible be a discerned Christian despite loner? Me: Yes t: how bout you? Me: About what? t: no Nothing are ancient Egyptians blacks? Me: Many are as proven by the Nubian rule over there in the 7th century B.C. t: the seti ramesses? Me: Totally, ancient Egyptians are a mixture of different people. Some Egyptians are black and some aren't. t: is Cleopatra portrayed by Elizabeth Taylor accurate? Me: It depends on the time and region of the history in that ancient part of the world. Cleopatra? ha ha. No. t: why not accurate? Me: The reason is that the time of Cleopatra and the Roman generals were more
bloody and contentious than what the movie presented. Her bloodline mixed with the Romans indeed as time carried forth beyond that era. t: how about the Cleopatra by leonor varela and billy zane? Me: I don't know about that story. t: is Mary Anthony a tyrant Me: Yes. He wanted to rule all of the Roman Empire as its solitary ruler. t: i thought Octavian the villain Me: I don't believe in having a love affair with the concept of tyranny. Tyrants are wrong regardless of where they reside in the 4 corners of the Earth. Augustus took his spot .
t: Was Augustus really evil? or just moderate? Me: He was evil. He was a pagan, he used imperialism against his fellow human beings, and he was a strong pagan. t: made order in Rome what a credit Me: Order? Imperialism isn't order. That's a benevolent dictatorship.
Israel being ruled by Roman imperialists is just wrong period. I reject that fake form of social/political order.
*These are interesting discussions since they can develop my mind more and make quick responses to questions readily accessible. This person I had a discussion with is a nice person. In our discussion, I agree with this individual on some issues and not on others. My core views on issues never have wavered or changed after all of these years. I still am Pro-Life, I believe in Nationalism, I believe in respect for all people, I believe in the Second Amendment, and I accept respecting civil liberties (that is why I don‘t agree with the Arizona immigration law at all). I reject fluoride and other poisons in our food & water supplies, I don’t support occult Secret Societies, and I love religious liberty without a theocracy. Economic reform is fine with me, but I agree with a rational foreign policy too. Now, there is the arrest of the accused terrorist named Faisal Shahzad for placing a vehicle filled with faulty equipment in Times Square inside of New York City. This event has been exploited by forces in the local, state, and federal government in other to promote the electronic panopticon or Big Brother police state more in New York City. Now, Lieberman and McCain want to deny an American citizen Faisal Shahzad of his constitutional right to a fair trial. This is really evil on the part of them. Lieberman said that he wants citizens to lose their rights if they are accused of crime that’s terror related. This is against legitimate charges and a trial put up toward an accused citizen. Shahzad is accused of creating his device in his Connecticut garage and having explosives training in Pakistan. John McCain (and the neo-con extreme Republican Rep. Pete King) didn’t even want Shahzad to experience Miranda rights when that’s legal (as validated from the Supreme Court) and he is
an American citizen. Now, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has been an enemy of civil liberties (by support militarized police & random searches of innocent people in subways for years) and the Second Amendment. Now, Michael wants to ban people from owning guns who are in the no fly list, even though many people on the list are innocent of any crime. In 2004, the late senator Edward Kennedy ended up on the list. Muslim peace activist and singer Cat Stevens appeared on the no fly list as well. This anti-gun policy would deny more than a million Americans the right of due process as stipulated in the 5th Amendment. So, the threats against our liberties are ever real, but the truth will rise above & beyond nepotism. We shouldn’t be tricked by left or right cover. We know that this war on terror is wicked and evil.
There is this immoral Arizona immigration law that I want to elaborate on. This law is purely a means where some want to promote the oppressive Real ID Act. So, the law wasn’t just about scapegoating people, but harming our civil liberties as well. This law wants people to show their papers to present proof of their right to be in the USA or their citizenship. The problem with this law is that you can be arrested if the police suspects you to be an “undocumented person” and you refuse to show your papers to the police (even if you’re a legal resident of America). It also sets the precedent for all Americans to have to show papers or some other form of digital documentation for whatever reasons the government might cook up next. There have been violent uprisings over this law and I don’t agree with that. On the other hand, if I were a Hispanic person I would be disappointed too. This law doesn’t deal with border
security, criminal smugglers of people, or corporations that exploit undocumented workers at all. It deals with a borderline pre-crime, anti-liberty agenda. This is why lawsuits are coming about on this issue. People from across the political spectrum oppose the Arizona law, so it isn’t a Left/Right paradigm deal. I agree with secured borders. Although, innocent people don’t have to be targeted, stopped, or harassed if they don’t have documentation on every place they go to. This profiling have already occurred when a Valley man, who was innocent citizen, but was arrested since he didn’t have enough paperwork with him. He had to get his birth certificate to just finish his job. This isn’t about fighting illegal immigration. It’s about Big Brother control over society in slick ways. Even Chris Matthews criticize people like me since I don’t agree with some forced ID card that’s biometric among every citizen in America. Not to mention that the data on these card are controlled and recorded by the federal government. I for one don’t want my medical records, etc. stored in a biometric database ruled by Uncle Sam at all. That’s fascism to me. This neo-feudal nonsense is what I reject. I don’t care what society thinks about me. I just keep living my life and have compassion, strength, and resilience to do the right thing. I have a strong mind, keen insight into common sense, and an able will to go over challenges in own life. I will always stand up for myself and never give up like a man suppose to do. I will never stop. I will never stop loving all humans as I love myself & my God.
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