I have no way of knowing that you do not offer anything free of charge. I believe that you do.

I am not your judge and have no right or basis to comment on your level of generosity. That is not my concern. I am certain of one thing: That I am not misinterpreting the scripture nor am I misrepresenting what the bible has to say on this subject. Scripture does not need me to interpret it. It speaks for itself. (Genesis 40:8)I do understand your reasoning; but it is the same reasoning that the peddlers of Gods word use. You know, the ones we see on TV. My concern is that anytime one sells God's word - which is lifesaving - puts a price tag on it. Who are we do do such a thing? God's word is NOT ours to place a value on. It is God who places a value on it; they are His words. Jesus' words were not cryptic, they were very clear and cannot be taken out of context. That he threw the money-changers out of the temple is a prime example of how we should think in this regard. (Matthew 21:12-14) In ancient Israel there was a priestly-class - the Levites - whose sole purpose was to tend the things within the temple and minister to the people. They did not work. The other tribes supported them. At Jesus' coming, he chose twelve men who all had a trade which allowed them to support themselves. We should not blend what happened in past times to what is to be now. Jesus showed this at Matthew 5:21-30."God's work" has come today to mean putting money in their pocket. But you have to admit that the TV Evangelizers rake in massive profits at the expense of doing what they call "God's Work." How convenient. They are like the money-changers Jesus spoke of. Most people see the wrong and hypocrisy in this. (Only in America) A rich man asked Jesus what he must do to get eternal life. Jesus told him to SELL everything he had and GIVE to the poor. The man could not do it. But the lesson here is GIVING . Also, the treasure is NOT on earth, but in heaven. (Matthew 19:16-24) This is not taking anything out of context. This is in context. It is clear. I am sorry to say that Malachi 3:6-9 is speaking of the Mosiac Law upon which the Jews were obligated to follow. Christianity did not exist at the time that it was given and no Christian was given this Law. (Think about what Jesus said concerning what his followers were to believe at Matthew 5:21-31) Why is it assumed that "tithing" has to do with money. (Not to mention that it was a practice in the Mosaic Law). Tithing back then was giving a tenth of the produce of the land and fruit trees and of the herds and flocks , was brought to the sanctuary and given to the Levites. No follower of Christ tithed. They understood that they were (as Jews converting) no longer bound to that old Law. We never read of tithing in the NT nor do we see Jesus or his disciples ever mentioning it. But tithing - one of over 600 Laws - is what many people use today to justify commercialization of what they call "God's Work." If they believe that they are to uphold that old Law, why just pick tithing? Why are they not practicing the other 600 Laws given along with it? You set a parameter that the "Lord does not change" and apply it to tithing. Why do that? It is wrong use of Gods word. That is not for what it was intended. That Scripture- when read in context - is speaking of God's purpose not changing. If God said let there be light, there will be light. When God speaks it and purposes it, it will happen. It will not change because He does not second guess Himself or change his mind. If Jesus fulfilled that Law, his followers are not bound by it. (Romans 7:6,7; Romans 10:4) Additionally, one just can't extract from Scripture the parts they like or benefits them and ignore the rest of it. If one thinks that they should Tithe - which is a part of the Mosaic Law - then practice the rest of the Law - the whole thing. That Judas had charge of money does not mean that commercialization was involved. Jesus dispatched his disciples out to different locations and told them to seek lodging at different houses. They had to eat and probably paid the householder they lodged with. Notice that Jesus told Judas to buy money for a feast and to GIVE to the poor. He did not tell him to

commercialize or SELL. But to GIVE. Anyone who sells what they were given freely by God is NOT giving. Matthew 13:44-46 is not talking about doing "God's Work" or using money for that purpose. Jesus is giving a parable illustrating the value of the Kingdom of Heaven. That it is something to be sought after like one searching for hidden treasure. Once finding the Kingdom of Heaven one owns it for themselves (they buy it). This is not talking about monetary exchange or commercialization. You pick out keywords such as bought and justify that God needs money to see that his will is accomplished? This is a parable. I will never agree with this line of reasoning (rationalization) of God's word to justify taking something God gave to the human race for free and turn it into a commercial venture. It contradicts the Lord and Masters own words: "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give."There is nothing about tithing or selling in that Scripture. Why be counted in among those who also rationalize commercialization and peddling Gods word for gain? I have no way of knowing that you do not offer anything free of charge. I believe that you do. I am not your judge and have no right or basis to comment on your level of generosity. That is not my concern. I am certain of one thing: That I am not misinterpreting the scripture nor am I misrepresenting what the bible has to say on this subject. Scripture does not need me to interpret it. It speaks for itself. (Genesis 40:8) I do understand your reasoning; but it is the same reasoning that the peddlers of Gods word use. You know, the ones we see on TV. My concern is that anytime one sells God's word - which is lifesaving - puts a price tag on it. Who are we do do such a thing? God's word is NOT ours to place a value on. It is God who places a value on it; they are His words. Jesus' words were not cryptic, they were very clear and cannot be taken out of context. That he threw the money-changers out of the temple is a prime example of how we should think in this regard. (Matthew 21:12-14) In ancient Israel there was a priestly-class - the Levites - whose sole purpose was to tend the things within the temple and minister to the people. They did not work. The other tribes supported them. At Jesus' coming, he chose twelve men who all had a trade which allowed them to support themselves. We should not blend what happened in past times to what is to be now. Jesus showed this at Matthew 5:21-30. "God's work" has come today to mean putting money in their pocket. But you have to admit that the TV Evangelizers rake in massive profits at the expense of doing what they call "God's Work." How convenient. They are like the money-changers Jesus spoke of. Most people see the wrong and hypocrisy in this. (Only in America) A rich man asked Jesus what he must do to get eternal life. Jesus told him to SELL everything he had and GIVE to the poor. The man could not do it. But the lesson here is GIVING . Also, the treasure is NOT on earth, but in heaven. (Matthew 19:16-24) This is not taking anything out of context. This is in context. It is clear. I am sorry to say that Malachi 3:6-9 is speaking of the Mosiac Law upon which the Jews were obligated to follow. Christianity did not exist at the time that it was given and no Christian was given this Law. (Think about what Jesus said concerning what his followers were to believe at Matthew 5:21-31) Why is it assumed that "tithing" has to do with money. (Not to mention that it was a practice in the Mosaic Law). Tithing back then was giving a tenth of the produce of the land and fruit trees and of the herds and flocks , was brought to the sanctuary and given to the Levites. No follower of Christ tithed. They understood that they were (as Jews converting) no longer bound to that old Law. We never read of tithing in the NT nor do we see Jesus or his disciples ever mentioning it. But tithing - one of over 600 Laws - is what many people use today to justify commercialization of what they call "God's Work." If they believe that they are to uphold that old Law, why just pick tithing? Why are they not practicing the other 600 Laws given along with it? You set a parameter that the "Lord does not change" and apply it to tithing. Why do that? It is wrong use of Gods word. That is not for what it was intended. That Scripture- when read in context - is speaking of God's purpose not changing.

If God said let there be light, there will be light. When God speaks it and purposes it, it will happen. It will not change because He does not second guess Himself or change his mind. If Jesus fulfilled that Law, his followers are not bound by it. (Romans 7:6,7; Romans 10:4) Additionally, one just can't extract from Scripture the parts they like or benefits them and ignore the rest of it. If one thinks that they should Tithe - which is a part of the Mosaic Law - then practice the rest of the Law - the whole thing. That Judas had charge of money does not mean that commercialization was involved. Jesus dispatched his disciples out to different locations and told them to seek lodging at different houses. They had to eat and probably paid the householder they lodged with. Notice that Jesus told Judas to buy money for a feast and to GIVE to the poor. He did not tell him to commercialize or SELL. But to GIVE. Anyone who sells what they were given freely by God is NOT giving. Matthew 13:44-46 is not talking about doing "God's Work" or using money for that purpose. Jesus is giving a parable illustrating the value of the Kingdom of Heaven. That it is something to be sought after like one searching for hidden treasure. Once finding the Kingdom of Heaven one owns it for themselves (they buy it). This is not talking about monetary exchange or commercialization. You pick out keywords such as bought and justify that God needs money to see that his will is accomplished? This is a parable. I will never agree with this line of reasoning (rationalization) of God's word to justify taking something God gave to the human race for free and turn it into a commercial venture. It contradicts the Lord and Masters own words: "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give." There is nothing about tithing or selling in that Scripture. Why be counted in among those who also rationalize commercialization and peddling Gods word for gain? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------My good friend, and I say good friend because; the more we communicate, I see that you are a man of sincere passion about the scriptures. The fact that you have taken the time to actually do some research to make your point is impressive, and it shows to me that you are someone who actually reads the bible. I'm becoming more and more grateful each day that the Creator has allowed for us to meet in this way. Also, I see that we agree on many of the same things we see happening with the word of truth today. I, too, disagree with the way the teachings of the bible are being used today. Yes, many today on Television and radio are doing exactly what you say they are doing, but your approach seems to be to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We can agree, at least I hope we can, that there has to be a work taking place on earth that is preaching the true end time message, because the scriptures say that;
Mtt. 24:14; And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

So, in spite of the fact that we live in a world today where the information in the bible is being commercialized; does not change the fact that the Savior said there will be a work on the earth that will be sending out the true warning to this corrupt society. Now, it is up to each individual to take the time to thoroughly examine what is being said and done by everyone who claim to be representing the teachings of the bible. For you, it seems, you have made a blanket decision that anyone who collects money to help them get their message out into the world; will all be group into the same category. So, because I sense something in you that I feel is genuine and very powerful; I will attempt, once more and only once more, to help you understand that you are contradicting yourself and taking scriptures out of contexts in spite of the fact that you insist that you are not. I wont even attempt to try to cover all the misrepresentation you have presented in your reply, because I feel that this is more about the fact

that you are intelligent enough to see the gross violations that's being done in the name of the creator today by so many; then any lack of being unable to understand the scriptures. Unless I'm able to convince you that the bible does allow for the true work to collect tithe and money to support the effort of getting the message out to the world; no debate we will have about the scriptures will matter, because your mind is already made up. So, this is the challenge you have presented me with! “We never read of tithing in the NT nor do we see Jesus or his disciples ever mentioning it.” Once again, in your efforts to convince yourself that the baby should be thrown out with the bathwater, you have made a statement that is just not true. Twice in what's called the New Testament; the Savior mentions tithing, and he not only mentions it, but he says that it is the right to do it. Mtt. 23:23, NKJV; “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. Mtt. 23:23-24, NIV: “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices – mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law – justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. Here I'm giving you this scripture as it is read in two different version of the bible, because I want it to be clear that the subject that is being discussed is “Tithing!” You can also find this same discussion in Luke 11:42. So, we see that the Savior did in fact discussed the subject of tithing. He not only discussed it, but he said that it is a law that should be kept. Another thing I noticed in your reply is that you seem to think that the priesthood of the bible was only for the mosaic priesthood. Again, as I did the first time, who every it can be proven are the true people of the bible today; then these people should still be observing the covenant that was made between them and their Creator. But only with a new and better High Priest ruling over it.
Heb. 7:1-5; This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him, and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, his name means “king of righteousness;” then also, “King of Salem' means “king of peace.” Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever. Just think how great he was. Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder? Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who became priest to collect a tenth from the people- that is, their brothers – even though their brothers are descended from Abraham.

Here we see, once again, in what's called the New Testament, a follower of the Savior is speaking to “Christians,” and is explaining that we of today are being offered a priesthood that is not only better, but older then the mosaic priesthood. This Melchizedek accepted tithe from Abraham. The author of this book goes on to state that the law requires all those are the true descendants of the people of the bible to tithe. My friend, that is just the fact, and it has nothing to do with commercialization of the Creators word. Now, if you say you are a follower of the Savior: Then what law, what order is the Savior's priesthood established on?

Heb. 7:13-17; He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar. For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priest. And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears, one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. For it is declared: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.”

Now are you beginning to understand the true interpretation of Mal. 3:6-9: When the Creator states, emphatically, that he does not change; he is talking about this law of tithing. Because, by keeping the law of tithing; a great mystery about the kingdom is being revealed! How you were able to so casually dismiss this as having to do with light or unchanging word; is something you will have to come to terms with. But, the truth is that the very Savior that came to this earth; came to establish a priesthood based on the priesthood of Melchizedek, and if you really knew who this Melchizedek was; you would know without a doubt that tithing was not something that was established only for the Mosaic priesthood, or for the tribes in what's called the Old Testament. Tithing reveals the universal law that all creation operates on, which means that all the laws of creations can be summed up in the law of tithing! But, again, you can't understand this great mystery because you haven't taken the first step of faith, and do you part to help this message get out to the world by ordering your letters! Now, finally, we today have a High Priest who is without spot or blemish, so we no longer need to follow the sacrificial law of the mosaic priesthood.
Heb. 7:26-28; Such a high priest meets our need – one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. For the law appoints as high priest men who are weak; but the oath, (baaed on Melchizedek's priesthood), which came after the law appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.

You can continue to read chapter eight for even more understanding on this subject. My friend, I can only hope that you are mature enough spiritually to at least give this information some serious consideration, because what's really at stake here is your salvation. This should not be about, and I hope its not about, winning an argument. My intentions in having this discussion with you is to help you come to see the importance of the decision that is being placed before you. I don't know what you were doing before you decided to reply to my post, but I do know that now you have found what you have been searching for your entire life. Please, don't let pride or vanity keep you from finding all the answers you have been searching for your whole life. It is my firm belief that it was the Creator that caused you to reply to my post, and my prayers are that you will take advantage of the treasure that is being offered to you. You have only just begun to see the wonders of the truth contained within the pages of your bible. I do pray that you will continue to seek the truth in your life; whether we speak again or not. I, personally, will not discuss this particular subject with you anymore, because, like I said, if this information I have just given you doesn't show you that you need to reconsider your position on this subject, then nothing else I can say will. I do hope, however, that you would like to continue discussing the bible, because I'm here to answer any legitimate questions you may have. Because, I think you are a highly intelligent person, and the spirit is very strong in you; I sincerely recommend that you find away to read the letters I'm offering on the Internet in the scribd.com store by clicking on this link, . http://www.scribd.com/share/upload/26333512/relteojf84iel286gp8

These letters are so affordable that no great sacrifice is required to read them, and you will be helping to get this message of truth out to the world. You can, depending on your situation, read one a day, one a week, or one a month. I also hope you take advantage of my offer to subscribe to my email list, because many of the questions you may have will be covered in the emails I send out each month. Well my friend, I don't know if we will speak again, but I hope you success in whatever choice you make in life.

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