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Races

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First you got your humans, nothing special hear However in this setting they are not
the rulers of the universe.
Dwarves evolved on a volcanic planet with a sulphuric atmosphere and have a reptilian
biology, Most races would call this hell, They call it home and are unable to live on
outher planets without life support or terraforming. Most of there magic focuses on
manipulating gravity. There society is a federation of feudal clans and maintains no
army or navy but each house has fleet and every dwarf is an able bodieyed warrior. In
times of great need the houses will band together to stop any threat. They usually
ware powered armor so most pepple have no idea what they actually look like.
Dwarves believe in a Purity of purpose and seek perfection within themselves and
strive for it in everything they do. Hearing this you might get the idea that they are
boring and suborn. You would be wrong, They are stubborn. But they sure know how
to party! They also have a predisposition for making things bigger. Dwarves do
everything BIG. Big starships, Big swords, Big guns, and Big mecha!
In battle dwarves fight as groups of independent warriors wearing powered armor and
wielding swords incanted with a gravitic effect rippling down the blade causing
devastating tidal forces than can liquidly stone and cleave through a starship hull.
There starships are cut from mighty asteroids decorated with the faces of great heroes
of the past. (like the anti spiral capital ships in the last few epasoeds of gurren lagann)
To recant, Dwarves are Samurai Vikings in space, wearing power armor and wielding
Dikalves.
They are expert craftsmen and the masters of gravitic magitech, producing gravity
drives, antigrav, tractor beams, and artificial gravity plating.
Elves evolved on a low gravity jungle planet and discovered Mendelian genetics before
fire. Thare magic focuses on manipulating life and they travel the stars in graceful
biomechanical starships. However they are not as skilled in other fields and are
generally considered primitives. Elves however find the idea of boxing yourself in a cold
mechanical construct repulsive.
Drow Are elves that no longer respect nature and instead use their magic to try to
create a prefect life form.
Gnome: "I can't describe Alegra's place. I can describe a lot of places like it; and I can
describe it before she moved in... But since the hallucinating projective telepath took it
over, who knows what it had become.... 'Come in,' she said, accompanied by
symphonic arrangement scored on twenty-four staves, with full chorus." (Samuel R.
Delany, "The Star Pit")
The gnomes (their name is a corruption of "genome") are a genetically-engineered
branch of humanity. Gnomes were designed for long-term interstellar space voyages.
Small in stature and long-lived, they were well-suited for decades-long confinements

aboard the first slower-than-light starships. On their voyages the long isolation
stimulated a quirk of their modified brains, and they developed psionic powers of
illusion. These illusions saved their sanity in the monotony of the interstellar dark.
Overjoyed at reaching their new worlds, the gnomes took care to blend their
communities into the natural setting, and kept much of their industry underground.
Skilled miners, they prize gemstones that remind them of the stars.
Halfling: "Bailey was a norbit, and norbits as a group didn't care much about
interstellar travel... few norbits had ventured away from the Solar System. Norbits
liked where they lived, preferring the comfort of the known to the wild adventures that
could be found elsewhere in the galaxy... The norbits extracted water, metals, and
minerals from the asteroids around them... As a group, they tended to be rather short
and stout, a body type well-suited to living in low gravity and confined spaces." (Pat
Murphy, There and Back Again)
The inhabitants of the asteroids around the human home star have their own names
for themselves, but most outsiders call them halflings. They are a quiet, industrious
bunch with little liking for excitement, and they are quite self-sufficient on their
greenhouse-studded rocks. They are generally bypassed by the other spacefaring
peoples who swoop past unnoticed in faster-than-light ships, on their way to or from
the inner system. Smaller even than gnomes, halflings are quick and alert spacefarers.
Every so often a norbit will heed the call of adventure and dash off on some wild quest
among the stars.
Another good inspiration might be Roger Zelazny's Island of the Dead, with its
terraformers that take on the aspects of alien gods.
Mindflayers evolved from a race of weak, intelligent humanoids (or cephalapods). They
developed psychic powers. They are now an evolved star empire, with several slave
races at their beck and call. Recently they lost one of these races in a vicious rebellion
(the Giths). In their inner planets they have Elder Brains the size of continents and
whole oceans devoted to their larvae.
Dragons in fantasy settings are often embodiments of natural forces. Maybe in a
cosmic setting you'd have gravity dragons, electromagnetism dragons, entropy
dragons, or time dragons. Maybe their appearance as big flying lizards is a concession
to human observers, and they'd look different to other species.
Well my origonal idea was having dragons being creatures of pure energy made of
living plasma native to the void.
Star Dragons - Huge dragons that live in deep space, that can manipulate Dimension
at will (a source of Dimension Vis).
Fire Dragons - Small dragons that roost in their millions on the bright side of mercury,
and harvest Sun fish thrown out by Solar flares (a Source of Energy Vis).
The Church of the Singularity. Long ago a civilization merged with its machines and
advanced at a tremendous rate, achieving godlike power. They somehow encoded their
essences into the black hole at the center of the galaxy. Worshipping and placating this
weird intelligence is the Singular Church, based in the stronghold called "Chalice" -- an

oblong asteroid with a city filling one pole -- orbiting the black hole. The Singularity
itself is drunk with power, or at any rate it looks that way from the outside. It likes to
devour suns. If sufficiently motivated it can open a wormhole, drag through a distant
star, and devour it at leisure. The Singular Church can plead for particular enemies to
be destroyed in this way, or for a solar system to be spared. There is evidence that
their pleas are sometimes heard. Branches of the Singular Church are scattered across
the galaxy. The message: love the devourer, or it will run amok. Only we can save you.
Donate generously.
Druids,
The psycich gestalt of all the lifeforms on a planet form a single life form called a Gaia.
The gaia gets more powerful as the biodiversity on a planet increases and if the planet
is significantly healthy it can empower to do its bidding. These people are called druids.
A druid has power over all life that originated on its home planet and by extension life
from planets that were seeded by its home planet.
Druids would want to sprea their planet's flora and fauna over any other planet's.
Druids from other planets would want to do the same. Leaders would fund expansions
if it would keep any brewing conflict off of their land.
Jack Vance's 1951 short novel Son of the Tree could give inspiration for the Druid
angle. It features a space opera setting with a planet dominated by a five-milediameter tree tended by priests. And he even calls them "Druids."

Space travel,
A starship is just a sealed airship designed to withstand the vacuum of space. Life
support is provided by create air, purify air, create water, and similar spells
permanently enchanted into the ship. Interstellar travel is provided by a long range
teleport spell. Powered by a single Mage supported by a bank of magitech computers.
(vat grown brains created to cast magic on an industrial scale)
Powered armor,
Powered armor is basically a hollow golem enchanted with mind magic to trace its
wearers movements. Dwarves make extensive use of this, (they can't live on other
planets without it, to cold) humans and Orcs also use it in battle to great effect. Elves
however find the idea of boxing yourself in a cold mechanical construct repulsive, So
wear a genetically engineered walking tree. Who needs a barkskin spell when you can
ride around inside an ent that mimics your movements?

hats still awesome but thats all?
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>> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:12 No. shipdocks. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:08 No.13269865 >>13269831 Oh. I mean. administration and defence given the "capital system" status.13269831 >>13269695 I agree with this. Beyond that I'd expect most solid ground in the system to be stuffed with everything they could fit onto Terra itself. I thought with some type of dark age of technology shit they moved earth and mars because the sun was fucking up >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:05 No.13269887 .13269799 The Grey Knights chapter monastery is sitting on Titan. you don't have to come on an even plane with the planets in the system. come on. military installations.I have been confused about those planets. Chapels. Are they just going to leave the front door open? >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:11 No. sure. You can come from 'above' or 'below'. more administration. it's Holy Tera for the Emperor's sake. mostly things concerning logistics.13269881 >>13269831 Didn't a Necron ship land on Mars? >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:13 No.13269819 I believe that Jupiter is a giant shipyard. Unfortunately. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:09 No. administration. monitoring stations etc.

>>13269865 That just means there are more guns with a clear line of sight to you. The astronomican is in the Himalayas.13269921 >>13269881 No it teleported just a few kilometer in Mars' orbit. with the Hive tendrils that are now in the galaxy. >> ¡Error! Objeto incrustado no válido. and Jovian shipyards. Sol is pretty much the biggest fortress in the galaxy. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:16 No. Titan being Grey Knight Inc. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:50 No. Likewise some of the planetoids at the perimeter of the system would make for a good first line of defence Pluto or Eris and its moon.13270144 Huh. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:50 No. Isn't there any fluff about this out there? >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:36 No.13270084 Lexicanum has dick and all. Somewhere in the asteroid belt makes sense.13269963 Mentor Legion was founded to work directly alongside Mars so their "secret base" (more likely bases plural) is probably somewhere nearby. I did not know that. they'd all be obliterated. if the Tyranids would attack Sol now.13270275 . it was almost immediately obliterated by the security systems. To realise the strength of Sol. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:20 No. Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:31 No. Like if they hollowed out Ceres or something. Otherwise it would have been dead.13270267 Ony thing I recall being mentioned is. They failed to reach the Void Dragon. like someone else said. Still. All that is just speculation based on what we have though.

All the fluff is this: Henceforth no man shall set foot upon the world. 2e rulebook >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:54 No. -From the Contagion of Ganymede. Uranus and Nuptune can be whatever you like. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:58 No. Saturn a shipyard. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:59 No.13270369 >>13270332 The Golden Throne is on top of GW headquarters. and Pluto is unimportant.Ganymede is quarantined. there has got to be some serious shit down there. >>13270144 It's hinted to be inside Everest. probably something involving weaponry or secret shit. Venus? That is undoubtedly where all the bodies are buried. and all around shall be set sentinels to ward away unwary spacecraft. and is now the eternal habitation of abomination.13270378 >>13270369 >>13270332 . bearded abhumans.13270340 Mercury is probably something else super secret or weaponized. Mostly just speculation.13270360 >>13270332 Pretty sure the palace covers half of the world. It's been fucked up due to experimentation with the warp core tech of certain short. maybe just a early warning system. likely involving its minerals and/or Sol. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)22:00 No. though Jupiter/Saturn are known.13270332 >>13270144 I believe the Imperial Palace covers all of England. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)21:55 No. We must accept that this place is lost to us forever. Jupiter's a forge world.

Saturn I think is also relatively gaseous. >laireyer arm sounds like a tech priest thing >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)22:02 No. and I know that if you put it in water it would float.13270381 >>13270360 No. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)22:00 No. It's the base of the Jovian shipyards.13270456 >>13270382 It's all orbital shipyard and space stations >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)22:12 No. . having a Forge World seems kind of impossible. Mount Everest >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)22:07 No.13270424 Actually the Imperial Palace is on the highest place in all of Terra. and also has some weapon platforms in there.>The Imperial Palace is a vast edifice sprawling across a large part of a continent on Terra. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)22:00 No.13270382 >>13270340 >Jupiter's a forge world I'm pretty sure Jupiter is still one huge gaseous planet in the 41st millennium. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)22:04 No. I dont think Britain is a continent. 40k wise though.13270405 >>13270382 Look it up on Lexicanum. So.13270540 I assume the Oort Cloud is used for resources. Saturn is where they are kept until they are sent where needed. just a large part of Europe. I have no idea about any planet besides Mars or Terra.

where they hand out and be badass. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)22:58 No.13271053 >>13271044 >Battlefleet Sol. Otherwise it would have been the Navy making the kills. and only one of them touches down. The area of Mars they touched down on.13271044 >>13271015 No. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:01 No. even >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:12 No. The Scythe class is the weakest of the Necron main ships.. It's four Scythe class ships. They did penetrate Sol's defenses directly. has been sealed with ferrocrete and entry is now forbidden to all. and they entered Mars' atmosphere where four were shot down by Martian . I just checked. Seven Scythe class Cruisers waltzed into the Sol system. everyone is wrong. There were five Shroud class cruisers. they go right through Battlefield Sol. Four were destroyed on approach to Mars. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:06 No. They teleported directly to Mars.13271015 >>13270971 They didn't waltz in..13271079 Actually. but the kills were all done by the AdMech AA. The only thing I was wrong about was the numbers. Three landed and were destroyed on the ground. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:09 No.13270971 >>13269921 That's bullshit. the Nocturne Labyrinth.13270948 The Grey Knights are situated in Saturn's Mon of Titan.Considering it has millions of times the mass of Earth in there. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:09 No.

lets make a project out of it and flesh out the Sol system. Could probably run some pretty sweet Dark Heresy games in such an environment. If it hasn't been fluffed out before. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:34 No. it's when an immovable object meets an unstoppable force. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:44 No. .13271110 >>13271086 Necrons aren't rivalled by the Eldar. full stop. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:27 No. rogue trader lady. And they were trying to reach the dragon. Their goal was either to reach the Dragon.jpg) C'mon /tg/ we can do better than this. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:15 No. or to provide the Deceiver.guns and one touched down on the Noctis Labyrinth. with an excuse to bomb and seal the site where the Dragon is contained.13271275 >There is no reason why they haven't reconquered the galaxy Tyranids. Tyranids everywhere. There is no reason why they haven't reconquered the galaxy already with ships that good. Necron ships are retardedly good. who was posing as a ranking Techpriest at the time. not destroy the Battlefield.jpg-(383 KB. Play BFG sometime.13271360 File1293165846. 679x1000.13271086 >>13271053 The Necrons have the fastest and nearly best ships.13271208 >>13271110 Because they are still sleeping. But yes. only rivaled by the Eldar. >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:13 No. Think of the elaborate histories and tithes each planet shares with their neighbour. They just have the best ships.

Rarely do they seem to stay awake for long. they do their thing then they go back to sleep. non-organic enemy with guns that deconstruct matter at a molecular level. you would find out that there are specific planets that tyranids avoid. and it if heavily hinted that those are Necron tomb worlds.13271657 My personal interpretation was that there was never many necrons in the first place. only to deal with someone bugging them. yell "Get off my lawn" then go back to doing what they were. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)00:10 No. So in my view the strongest units are awaking up. Like old people. Except the necrons just forcefully shoves them out. If it ever came to a stand-up fight the Necrons would wipe the floor. and are also immortal? Yeah no. fearless. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)00:18 No.13271591 >>13271275 Actually. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)00:19 No. they get up. >> Pope !czGPU9ORJI 12/24/10(Fri)00:23 No. If they were so many and so powerful why aren't the Eldar extinct? Or Orks? It stated the Enslavers came in. that's where the Portis Cthulhus appeared. Tyranids pose no threat to Necrons. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)00:00 No. infact. killed a bunch of sentients then the necrons took their nap. if you read the necron codex. A painless.>> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)23:57 No.13271696 .13271467 >>13270275 Yep.13271501 >>13271275 The only advantage 'nids have against 'crons is sheer numbers. 'Nids can't beat that.13271647 >>13271275 Necrons are the Tyranid's worst nightmare.

13271745 >>13271360 Sure. was also host to the Primarch creation facilities so there's probably a vast amount of weird warp tech there. >>13269963 There's probably a host of things in the asteroid belt actually. Additionally it's probably bristling with relics from the entire history of human space flight and abandoned makeshift bases unopened since the Horus Heresy. while bristling with defensive weaponry. The moon's catacombs would likely rival Mars' in sheer size and complexity. .. given its proximity to Mars the machine cult has probably infested the asteroids with all manner of research stations and factories. We've already been there. >>13271657 No.>>13271647 What if necrons weren't created for the widely thought reasons like revenge but maybe they were made to fight off the tyranids when they eventually show up. I'm doing this cause the idea sounds fun to play and assemble. The technology there is ooooold. but something along the way went wrong and they just kill everything now.13271698 Can I ask a non-fluff question? I'm going to spend some money on turning my ork list into a tin can list. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)00:27 No.13272162 >>13271745 did.. You first. How do you think it will go on the table top? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)00:25 No.13271723 >>13271696 No. and so on. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)01:13 No. We also know that the moon. Plus it's Luna. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)00:23 No.

planetary assaults and zero gravity combat. All of these chapters need their own respective places to practise drop pod landings. Really ancient bonds between planets where one corporation handles nearly all the trade between two planets. not-So-Rogue Trader dynasties with lineages stretching all the way back to the founding of the Imperium and so on. technocratic ships.jpg) >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)01:57 No. 1440x900.13272436 File1293173613. In some cases the first enterprises set up when the Emperor was still reclaiming the Sol system itself. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)01:53 No. So they probably have training facilities set up somewhere as well as Mentor Legion and Grey Knights.jpg-(85 KB. There would probably be a way higher consentration of hereditary trade warrants than in any other area of the segmentum.13272452 >>13272162 Does Terra have a PDF? . 819x1024.13272447 File1293173715.13272443 >>13269685 brb checking the holy lexicanum >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)01:55 No. I think I just found my next Rogue Trader setting actually.jpg) >> NCR Trooper 12/24/10(Fri)01:54 No.jpg-(199 KB. Rogue Trader Mechanicus Ship. would still be around: One factory that still holds a complete monopoly on the manufacturing of a vital item.Oh and the Imperial Fists' Phalanx is on patrol near Terra.

if not an entire fortress-monastery.covered in fucking lasers and missile launchers and shit? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:01 No...13272472 File1293174092.13272475 >>13272162 There's also the Exorcists.13272463 >>13272452 Yea. They have strong ties to the Ordo Malleus. and after searching all possible locations have come up empty handed.If so. They likely have some kind of base in the system. 842x1190. is the hottest new fragrence this season among the Aristocracy of Terra. Lots of space for different things.jpg) >aquires robile Yes captcha. its called the Legios Custodes >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:00 No. repainted. etc. >> NCR Trooper 12/24/10(Fri)01:58 No. this dashing rogue imports it at 12 thrones per lb and sells it for a hundred for a tiny vial! Robile. they must be fucking terrifying. And also the Deathwatch undoubtedly have some kind of area in which they are equipped.13272470 Isn't the entire Asteroid Belt supposed to be like.13272457 >>13272443 i have just searched the lexicanum. every thing is right with the imperium of man *slams book* >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)01:59 No.jpg-(853 KB. trained. Supplies are limited! Buy yours today! >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:01 No. rogue trader. . Essence of Roboute.

13272484 >>13272463 There is only..13272487 >>13272162 >The moon's catacombs would likely rival Mars' in sheer size and complexity. That strip was filled with shipyards and weapons. The Arbites are headquartered there. Sol is holy. What else is there besides that though? Terra probably imports a lot of things what with being a baren poluted hive world and all. so they'd have a huge presence. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:13 No.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:03 No. No.. I mean outside of it. this isn't the fucking Dark Age. The lasers and missile launchers are covered in fucking lasers and missile launchers and shit! That's a given at this point. Now a lot of that must come from out of system but there would have to be local agriculture. or under which someone . and that was before the Heresy. Luna had a massive strip torn out of it for use as building materials for the initial fleets. And probably weaponized anyways.13272526 >>13272504 Probably a massive amount of its energy. Another thing to remember is that there is no place on Terra in. but PDF? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:04 No. So does 40k have dyson spheres? How much of the sun's energy would humanity be be harnessing? I get the feeling that if we're talking "giant sun cannon" the Imperium could harness the whole sun's energy in a single blast if it wanted to but if we're talking green energy well maybe there's a book somewhere in a long forgotten library that mentions both words in the same chapter. remember. on. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:08 No.13272504 >>13272470 >Isn't the entire Asteroid Belt supposed to be like. what.covered in fucking lasers and missile launchers and shit? EVERYTHING is covered in fucking lasers and missile launchers and shit. a few thousand of 'em at most? And they stay in the Palace almost all the time.. there are no Dyson spheres..

1272137080753.jpg-(171 KB. None.13272576 >>13272526 So people live up in the clouds on plateforms and deep underground too? Or was the whole . if there are ships firing at ANYTHING in a large amount on Terra itself. though. I can't really tell. 1000x849.13272535 File1293174841. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:18 No.jpg) >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:16 No. I am not ashamed to admit I would kill for a Beakie Space Marine plushie. 1248908550562. but I think its a beakie too.jpg) >>13272548 >I've always liked the girl's little stuffed space marine.com/art/space-marine-plush-148984159 You were saying? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:20 No.13272558 File1293175123.jpg-(142 KB. shit is going down.does not live. Seriously.13272562 >>13272558 http://jetjetex. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:19 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:14 No.13272548 >>13272535 I've always liked the girl's little stuffed space marine. 494x699. Even if it was an Ultramarine one.deviantart.

13272582 File1293175292. among the wretched starving scum of Holy Terra.13272596 . 80508873.13272588 >>13272576 They live for MILES AND MILES undergrounds. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:21 No. on. The answer to that is "shit".13272593 File1293175427.jpg-(21 KB.jpg-(178 KB.13272583 File1293175299.jpg) >>13272558 >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:24 No. 1280x1024.jpg) >Another thing to remember is that there is no place on Terra in. in the depths of the underhive. the punchline to joke as old as society itself is heard again: >"The Aristocrats!" >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:21 No. Thousands of miles below. and MILES AND MILES in the air. 800x526. 1271744976294. or under which someone does not live.pfmw212.FFQNr5mf.jpg) >>13272562 WHOWHATWHEREWHENWHYHOW >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:23 No. templars terminator. 720x480. None.place dug up? I wonder what life would be like for regular civilians in the 40k universe.jpg-(203 KB. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:23 No.

. And is that a girl from the Schola Progenium? . >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:27 No.jpg-(1.jpg) >>13272593 >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:26 No.13272602 >>13272593 *crunch* >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:25 No.>>13272562 JUST TAKE ALL MY MONEY ALL OF IT >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:24 No.54 MB. .. 3307x1654.13272613 >>13272604 Mildly amazed no Space Wolves.13272604 File1293175511.Why do they not sell Terminator plushies.13272614 >>13272588 Why would it be shit? Aren't they protected by the marines at all times and stuff? You would think the humans on terra would be catered to by the military.13272617 >>13272593 I've always wondered just how damn good this guy is so that he doesn't pulp her hand. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:26 No. terminator plushies.

IIRC). . And a plush Genestealer for it to fight. doing all the usual shitty hive city life things. but holy fuck. I want that Salamander one. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:30 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:28 No. Somebody needs to make these.13272619 >>13272604 I am going to learn how to sew just ot make one of those. Most people are starving human dross whose greatest dream is that their children will become a lowest-ranking indentured scribe and copy text until he goes blind.13272630 >>13272614 Because it's still a fucking hive world.13272632 >>13272614 Like 99% of Terrans live in absolute squallor packed together like sardines and starving. Yes it houses the Emperor and his Palace (which covers basically all of what was once the landmass of Europe. except they are perhaps the most blessed of all hivers in that they live under the shadow of the Emperor himself! Its a shit life.13272621 File1293175690.jpg-(6 KB. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:29 No. Or ten. Not just a Hive City.13272631 >>13272614 Because Holy Terra is a Hive World. a HIVE. WORLD. but it has untold billiosn(trillions?) of hivers living in a planet-wide hive city. PRAISE THE EMPEROR (and pass more parts for assembling this lasgun). 147x251.jpg) >>13272604 Fuck. 1290876817253s.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:27 No. I live on TERRA. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:29 No.

13272635 >>13272613 Upper right.jpg) >>13271044 >Battlefield Sol YEEESSSSSSSSSSSS >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:33 No. ship size comparison. but that's more a product of them being the most wealthy people in the entire Imperium rather than being physically on Terra. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:30 No.jpg) .13272655 File1293175990.jpg-(18 KB. The richest of the rich who can afford to live there live like kings of course. 1280x755.jpg-(130 KB.13272646 File1293175927. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:32 No.jpg) >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:32 No. 327x388.A square foot of land on Terra costs more than palaces elsewhere according to Lexicanum.jpg-(469 KB. 810x1165. Battlefleet Gothic. 067.13272647 >>13272604 Those would not be easy to sew. Make your own. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:32 No.13272652 File1293175963.

give them each an acre of land and it will take up less area than Texas. >>13272632 Exactly.13272661 >>13272631 Over a trillion. alternately.13272683 File1293176226. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:35 No.49 MB. The difference between poor and nobles is just much larger on Terra than anywhere else. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:35 No.13272689 >>13272614 Most of them are actually filthy dirty pilgrims. I've always liked the idea of some IG regiment being raised from Terra and treated like gods by other Guardsmen.13272675 >>13272655 Non-canon. Daemon Hunters. you can break the current population of Earth into families of 4.13272677 >>13272670 see >>13272661 >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:37 No.jpg-(2. one of the BAZILLIONS AND . Either way.13272670 >>13272526 How many people are on Terra? If I remember correctly. >>13272652 I just realized how FUCKING AWESOME THAT WOULD BE. I just know Terra has a PDF. 5000x838.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:34 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:34 No.jpg) >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:37 No.

. No shit.13272707 >>13272683 That guy makes art for DH now. Terra is a crazy. . >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:41 No.13272709 What level of tehnology does the imperium still posess? Do they still know how to make their own ships. Physics not being my strong point..ZILLIONS of Administratum clerks. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:41 No.. Sol is probably one of the densest areas of space in the galaxy. It just doesn't seem /that/ big. Didn't I read something about Luna now being one giant. takes me about 10-15 mins depending on the wind. the Battleships wouldn't create any gravity (any noticeable. fuck-you orbital defense platform laser cannon? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:39 No. that is) would they? I'm pretty sure that there are moons that are 5km in diameter. what with Battlefleet Sol being the equivalent of most sector battlefleets crammed into pretty much just one solar system. guns etc? I cant seem to get a straight answer on this.13272700 >>13272689 The Sol Sector's fleet is larger than all the other sectors' fleets put together. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:41 No. tanks..13272708 >>13272655 Is 5km big? I bike 3km to the supermarket.. crazy place.

I don't know why people keep posting it.jpg) >Uranus >Slaanesh >Unfortunate implications >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:47 No.13272739 File1293176784. most of the really epic battleships are essentially cities in themselves. in a universe of trillions.13272747 What i've never understand about WH40k is how there are only 1000 marines per chapter. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:48 No.jpg-(18 KB.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:44 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:46 No. 700x990. Like.13272752 .13272743 >>13272732 Yes. you like krabby patties.jpg-(358 KB. Emperor-class battleships can get to something like 20 km long. with their own cultures and whatnot. 1249300058502.13272727 File1293176679.jpg) >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:45 No. 363x421.13272732 >>13272708 That is not canon. they cant find more recruits? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:48 No.

>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:50 No. different Forge Worlds have certain patterns that are unknown outside of the sectors they supply and even Mars doesn't have all . Though I personally stick with Rogue Trader's dimensions.jpg-(65 KB. Cruisers at 3-5ish and Ships of the Line at 7+km >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:49 No. 873x627. codexes and the like.13272762 >>13272747 Not enough geneseed >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:49 No.13272768 >>13272709 Thats because there is no straight definitive answer. which put Escorts at 1. asi from conflicting measurements given in Black Library novels. BFG.jpg) >>13272732 I doubt there are any official concrete sizes for Imperium ships.13272763 >>13272747 Horus Heresy.13272760 File1293176977.>>13272683 Some of those look kinda Tau. 1282618796624. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:50 No. with a fair bit of the simpler ones being reasonably well understood.13272767 >>13272709 They know how to follow the holy manuals to make most of them. Titans are one of the few war machines that are completely understood. why? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:49 No.5-2km.

Their highest ranking members play with Heretek like it was Legos and no one can say anything to them about it. . >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:50 No.... I imagine Terra itself has a shitload of flying cars and such things.Mars however has many many secrets. Mars can almost always make it. I can't find the damn picture that shows all this shit. When in doubt. it's a bit silly.13272769 >>13272709 Yes. like grav-plating and suspensors. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:50 No.13272770 >>13272747 The autonomous Codex chapters are kept artificially throttled at 1000 fighting marines to prevent too much power answering to any one man or superhuman. Yes.13272776 >>13272747 Keeps them small just in case they ever decide to go EXTRA-HERETICAL and curbstomp the rest of the Imperium..their records. Run with it. Anyone? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:50 No. Some chapters don't give a shit about that. It's just that technologies can bve completely lost in some sub-sectors and a dime a dozen in others.13272774 >>13272727 WTF am I looking at here? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:50 No.

especially on Mars. but techpriests can maintain it. .jpg-(46 KB. For the military. because there isn't one..13272787 >>13272752 Because it was made by some guy from DA. The admech keep technology steeped in religious practise so that they can maintain their monopoly on it. Power generators and common things in the Imperium are some examples of STCs that aren't for military use. There's a story in Battlefleet Gothic (or maybe its expansion Armada) that recounts how a Lunar-class cruiser was repaired by feral worlders being recruited by the ship's leaders (portraying themselves as heralds of a god) to gather resources from their planet. and the ferals got to watch a star move out of the sky as a reward. of course they do.. The best things invented were Standard Template Constructs. Add to that that most of the inner core and advanced members of the admech do understand their technology and. to "sacrifice" them to this god. that guy now draws official art. The Sol system is in some ways the exception to the rule though as only Mars and the Mentor Legion alongside them are really allowed to use brand new experimental technology.jpg) >>13272709 That's because the answer varies based on who's answering the question AND who's asking.13272780 File1293177079. A lot of their current-use technology is difficult to replace because not all forge worlds have the same knowledge. which are super-blueprints that let anyone with the proper math abilities and appropriate materials to make whatever is on the STC.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:51 No. Granted. if you read an instruction manual like it's the word of God you're going to know it pretty damn well even if you don't understand WHY it works.13272789 >>13272709 Um. Many are blind followers but not all. but those were just concepts he made one day. It's a mixed bag. Ships are difficult to reproduce. That's why you'll never get a straight answer. They produce horrendous amounts of everything. 1259644241265. Also it's quite possible for a civilian who knows how to jury rig their car to feign ignorance and devotion in the presence of a militant techpriest. but they can do it. ARE allowed to innovate. That said. pretty much every weapon and vehicle type is an STC that most places can copy and produce. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:52 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:52 No. After a full year. 337x604.yes. enough resources were gathered to repair the ship satisfactorily.

jpg) >>13272769 This? >> TRU HIPSTA 12/24/10(Fri)02:54 No.jpg-(135 KB.jpg) >>13272774 Are you a gitsucker? That's the Emperor on the Golden Throne.13272794 >>13272774 If you don't know. 799x747. admech tech tree.13272797 >>13272794 Probably cause it reminds you of yours >> Mars Archive Department 12/24/10(Fri)02:54 No. Looted_Golden_Throne_by_Jaekyu.13272800 File1293177268. centralized location.13272802 You know what's always been confusing? In space 4X games your capital world becomes increasingly irrelevant as the boundaries of your empire expands. yet 40k seems to have everything in the one. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:54 No.13272791 >>13272683 That eagle up there must have a strong neck >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:53 No. 1884x1425.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:52 No.13272796 File1293177245. GTFO. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:54 No. .jpg-(842 KB. That fucking arm has always bothered me.

13272808 >>13272802 The Emperor is unable to move.even though Rowboat Gullyman wrote the Codex: Astartes. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:55 No. therefore society stays centered on him.. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:56 No.13272812 >>13272770 With a hugely ironic exception. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:56 No. >>13272800 Thank you.13272805 >>13272774 your mother >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:56 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:57 No.13272807 >>13272797 I'm afraid I do not have two left arms.Wouldn't it make more sense to have the Grey Knights closer to the eye of terror? Why is mars such an important forgeworld? seems silly >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:55 No.13272814 >>13272802 .13272803 >>13272791 That's clearly an Emperordamn falcon.. While most 2nd and 3rd founding chapters are happy and honored to serve their progenitor chapters almost all the Ultra-descended chapters consider it a life debt to suck Marneus Calgars/ any other major leader of the Ultras cocks and their are a lot of 2nd and 3rd founding Ultra chapters. the Ultramarines are the loosest followers of it.

>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:58 No. but surely the emperor is secure enough? Why have the Gay Knights there? why have the titan forges there? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:01 No. the Astronomicon. 40kmap. For some reason.13272826 >>13272802 I hate explaining this. and Golden Throne. forget it. logistics. the Emperor. et cetera. It was going off the 4th edition Marine codex. the Age of Strife.13272838 >>13272824 I have yet to see the movie. not the 5th. >> TRU HIPSTA 12/24/10(Fri)03:01 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)02:59 No. how everything ended up on its own.Astronomicon. the DAoT. Because of religion.jpg) >>13272802 Because Holy Terra houses the only point-of-reference for warp navigation across the entire Galaxy. then again I hate the Smurfs with more fury than all the World Eaters and Space Wolves combined so therefore couldnt be bothered to have it sitting on my . Willis? If you're referencing the recent Ultramarines movie as a source.jpg-(2. It wasn't a fucking unified effort.13272824 >>13272812 What are you smoking.13272837 >>13272808 >>13272814 >>13272826 Yes. 4000x3401. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:01 No. et cetera.06 MB.13272836 File1293177690.

the planet is so heavily fortified that the Dragon's necrodermis would almost certainly be breached in the battle. but surely the emperor is secure enough? No. Besides.13272847 >>13272837 Necrons/Elfdar might just pop up one day and fuck shit up. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:05 No.13272859 >>13272847 Pretty sure that if the VD gets free. with everything else going to shit. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:02 No. the Void Dragon might break the seal and go on a Machine God rampage. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:05 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:02 No. On a more serious note.13272862 >>13272837 >Yes. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:05 No. we'll still have that connection with good ol' Earth is pretty awesome.13272866 . it's not like it's the only place where they build titans. I find it kind of touching that Sol is very much so the heart of the Imperium. the idea that even that far in the future. Alternately. his necrodermis is gonna get rocked.HD.13272841 >>13272802 Because fuck you the Solar System as an absurdly fortified GRIMDARK bastion of human might is awesome. while he would undoubtedly do incredible amounts of damage to Mars in the process. >why have the titan forges there? All the smart AdMech guys and their giant repository of knowledge sits on Mars.

>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:06 No. Luna is a giant docking ring and weapons platform. Mentor Legion. it has all the typical functions of a Hive. >>13272708 Idk about that. along with histories and records dating back to pre-Unification. Venus is both a powerplant (solar) and a playground for the super-rich. The Inquisition has little probe ships that can sneak into the Warp and do some super-spying.13272868 >>13272689 Terra has a population in the trillions. but the Necrons might come again. Billions of people (we are talking tens of billions) work in each Administratum building. considering they are some of the richest families on Terra. library and repository of lore. which is saying something). Intertialess drives plus the stealthiest warship in the universe can take you places. and its great libraries have copies of most of the important stuff.and escape. Mars is Mars. It has an underhive of untold size (a Space Wolf book mentions a place called Nuev Yoruk or something like that). Grey Knights) >Mars Titan Legions >Admech Skittarii >Luna Defence Cannon >Some kind of cannon powered by the sun >Custodes >Terra PDF >The Sol Battlefleet again because it's so goddamn big it should be mentioned twice. with the Astronomicon somewhere close. Australia is the Ghetto of the Navigaors (which is a bit of a misnomer. The Imperial Palace is nestled in the Himalayas. But beside this. What else? >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)03:05 No.13272872 >>13272847 Eldar won't pop up. Saturn is a shipbuilding powerhouse.So what are the fighting forces of the Sol system all told? We've got: >The Sol Battlefleet >Several space marine chapters (Imperial Fists. It has massive air conditioners and water recyclers. >note: warship. It is the central repository of the Administratum. . but one would assume grav-planking would throw all that shit into flux. handling nearly all large scale orders.

>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:10 No.13272891 Also the I O M has a million worlds right? >>13272836 are there just loads and loads of worlds in between the locations illustrated here? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:10 No. the Void Dragon would just pic related.13272882 >>13272836 If the Tau are so close to the ultra blues. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:12 No. I expect something about it with the next Tau codex.13272902 >>13272891 I'm personally inclined to believe that the "million worlds" is an abstraction for the sake of .jpg) >>13272847 One could worry that instead of wrecking shit. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. 400x400.13272896 >>13272882 More and more is cropping up with the new books.13272894 >>13272866 Sol has a few super powerful Psykers that could go toe-to-toe with warships >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:10 No. how there isn't more fluff on their conflict? >> TRU HIPSTA 12/24/10(Fri)03:10 No.jpg-(37 KB.13272897 File1293178257.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:09 No.

sounding pretty. The inquisitorial forces on Saturn. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:19 No. >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)03:18 No. and their huge private retinues of incredibly competent murderers. it could probably handle a ton of enemy ships all on its own.. Believe me. They made Terra a murderous hellhole for Horus.13272948 >>13272868 Nova Yourk and Atlantys are known to have been the greatest cities of Old Earth. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:21 No. To be fair though. and i would be hard pressed to imagine a scenario where every single Astartes chapter wouldnt love to defend sacred Terra itself. that muster call is going to be fucking huge. .. the Phalanx is a monster of a vessel. the Emperor made sure of it.. When an attacker hits an Imperial world. The scale of the attack and the worth of the world reflect how big the muster "sphere" is.13272939 >>13272847 >>13272859 Void Dragon ain't goin' nowhere. and such maintain.13272908 >>13272882 Because the Smurfs are still dealing with the fallout from the Hive fleet that decimated their realm. I would hate to see what they would do for their encore. and even without Battlefleet Solar for support.. The massive numbers of Sisters of Battle being evaluated and trained on Terra. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:13 No.13272932 >>13272866 The huge numbers of private armies maintained by all the nobles. If someone starts making a path towards Terra. along with their instructors. We are talking trillions of guardsmen. because they lose "thousands" of worlds on a fairly regular basis in the fluff and it ain't no thang. captain. The main issue for attacking Terra is Imperial defense strategy. all planets in a sphere muster units for defense. And while on the topic of the Imperial Fists. navigator houses. and the Imperium actually has far more than that. rogue trader cartels.

. Also. =][=.13272973 I find it elevating and exhilarating To discover that we live in a universe Which permits the evolution of molecular machines As intricate and subtle as we >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:25 No. probably the Deathwatch.13272986 >>13272949 Agreed. Also. Terra might. defense turrets on every planet.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:21 No. overrun and destroyed by a thousand external threats.19 MB. the White Scars. 1600x788. Besides the Ultrasmurfs (who have shown themselves both terrible at fighting tyranids and deliciously tasty). but the resources drawn to secure it would see entire swathes of the Imperium drained. and Imperial Fists would totally bro-fist over nostalgia.13272949 File1293178914.jpg-(1.13272975 >>13272866 Custodes. i don't think anything the tyranids have could get past all the 1st Founding Chapters. it's somewhere in there. Terra would never fall. Honestly I think The Imperium could hold terra against even the full theoretical Tyranid swarmfleets.jpg) >>13272932 Yup. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:25 No. But as a point of pride. 1282649017809. That doesn't mean the Imperium would survive. likely some form of PDF. orbiting defense turrets. >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)03:28 No. you name it. Arbites. Exorcists. The Imperium would probably never fully recover from such a conflict. sensors that pick up incoming ships IN THE FUCKING WARP. i think the rest of the 1st Foundings would have a pretty good showing. Blood Angels.

Orks win in the end. they can't make more power armor either.13273041 >>13273023 Less'n yer one a them psykers. wasn't the blood angels nearly wiped out? And how many total space marines are there anyway? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:35 No. because they lost their gene-seed. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:36 No.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:32 No.13273056 .13273044 >>13273040 Don't forget.13273040 The reason there are only 1k marines per chapter is because if they made more humanity would win. Holy Terra is by far the safest place in the fucking galaxy. Doesn't matter. and they want the fighting to be endless. >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)03:38 No. Also.13273023 >>13272986 No matter how shitty it is to live there. Then yer Emperor-meat. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:35 No.13273018 >>13272535 >>13272593 >>13272604 it's drimdaaawwwww(k) >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:32 No. (The devs) But the in-game reason is because they can't afford to.

give or take.jpg) >>13273040 In-game reason is because of the Horus Heresy. <---->>13273041 Or you're an astropath. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:41 No. or. >rowdldta penses Yes. they can. or a Ghey Knight.jpg-(81 KB. 515x768. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:41 No.13273072 >>13273056 >5000 marines Black Templars are not exactly the norm. >>13273044 Yes. It just is quite a tricky procedure. Not many forge worlds can make that shit anymore. MkVIII_Errant.13273069 >>13273044 They can make more power armor. or being sanctioned. ect). idiot.. Captcha. more than enough if we believe the fluff.>>13273040 Roughly 1000 chapters. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:40 No. or powering the Astronomican.. combat loses. with around 1000-5000 marines per chapter (depending on level of codex organization. . >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)03:41 No. So maybe a million.13273065 File1293180042.13273075 >>13273056 How convenient! That's one Space Marine per planet. they don't have penses.

multiplied by thirteen.13273139 >>13273129 Where is that number from? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:53 No. And Lexicanum did the math. or as low as three hundred.13273122 >>13273108 The Smurfs lost their entire First Company and had either the Third or Fourth Company reduced to scattered remnants (with hefty losses from other Companies on top of that) by the end of the Tyranid all-you-can-eat buffet. Numbers for the Chapter could be around three thousand. each of which is a fair bit more than the standard hundred of a Codex Chapter. the Smurfs. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:51 No. so they should be significantly below par compared to other Codex Chapters in the first place. say.13273149 >>13273129 Assuming the low point is three hundred and a high point is seven hundred. .13273108 >>13273083 IIRC.13273083 >>13273072 Space Wolves and other say "fuck you" to the codex.. leaves you with more than five thousand Astartes. a chapter actually has around 1700 marines at full strength.. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:47 No.>> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)03:43 No. Space Wolves have thirteen Great Companies (one of which is the Wulfen). >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:49 No. >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)03:50 No.13273129 >>13273108 Some Great Companies have as many as five to seven hundred.. then low-balling it to four hundred each. So they should have more available marines than.

>> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:00 No. in addition to 900 marines and around 100 scouts you're looking at about 1. Besides the tactical necessity of this.13273189 >>13273178 You could set entire campaigns spanning centuries all in the Solar System and never visit the same place twice.jpg-(1. dedicated thunderhawk and strike cruiser crew.14 MB. medical staff. chaplains. librarians. Marneus Augustus Calgar.jpg) I'm super tempted to compile a Liber Sol. and i dont wanna dig through my back issues. honour guard. a collection of all known information on the Solar System as it stands in the 41st millenium. chapter council positions.jpg-(144 KB. dedicated tank drivers. they need their own psykers.13273201 >>13273178 Aint it? .300 marines in a flawlessly adherant codex chapter at absolutely full strength.jpg) >>13273083 Counting all support staff (apothecaries.13273178 File1293181080. 2904x1687. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:59 No.13273193 File1293181175. You have to remember that each Great Company normally acts independently. So they need their own pilots.13273171 >>13273139 Old article put Grimnar's great company at around 4 to 5 hundred.200 to 1. scouts. And then a warleader as famous as the Old Wolf would have a Wolf Guard in the dozens. 600x795. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:58 No. armorers and the like. and armored commanders. 40k Galaxy Map by ikkaan. We are talking a white dwarf that is lost to time here. This is a great setting >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)03:59 No.>> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)03:57 No.

Any ways theres a huge fleet just for the sol system they probably patrol around every planet have picket lines in deep space in a sphere around sol. no the planets are armored to protect themselves.(. Inquisitor Tyrus . since they are the only things of value.Tinker.jpg) >>13273193 They have no sense of scale.13273216 File1293181349. A laser weapon on pluto would take 5 hours to reach just the sun.jpg-(19 KB..>>13273149 Gotta remember that the Canis Helix means that Space Wolves don't have second founding chapters. and have ships patrolling around the . >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:01 No.13273214 >>13273193 The 'Lex came up with 1700. so the Space Wolf geneseed in only found in the Chapter. 300x431. But i think we can safely assume that 1300+ is more likely the average for a pure codex chapter >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:02 No. but that is their math. if the target is attacking jewpiter when its on the opposite side of the solar system it'll take 8 hours to get get there.jpg) >>13273178 Agreed! Can we archive this thread so we can continue this later? It's about time /tg/ collaborated on its own dark heresy setting. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:01 No.jpg-(30 KB. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:03 No.13273207 File1293181280.). 300x455.. The_Black_Templar.13273226 I'd just like to point out that the reason each rock is an armored platform is because planets are the only thing anyone could attack in a solar system.

>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:05 No.jpg) The Justice of the Imperial Fists is swift but not cruel.jpg-(252 KB.13273271 ..13273233 >>13273201 They have at least one . >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:10 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:04 No. >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:09 No. That's a fuckload and a half.. the Calixis sector is pretty comprehensive as far as settings goes. As for old Legion numbers? Some legions were fuck huge.13273263 >>13273233 I thought that the Space Wolves swore off the idea of subsequent foundings after the Werewolves chapter. Lexicanum also speculates between 150 and 1000 marines per Great Company. since at full numbers (or higher) they'd have more than double the Black Templars. landspeeder storm. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:08 No. while the Thousand Sons had only around the "average" 10.13273256 File1293181693. reading must ensue. The Emperor's Law reigns Absolute. 600x3453. Ultramarines had a pre-heresy high of around a quarter million.13273239 >>13273216 I dunno. and would be the closest Chapter to the old Space Marine Legions in strength.the Wolf Brothers chapter. Hmm.. Although it would be nice to be playing in a campaign that didn't involve LORD HAX somehow.sun.000.

13273289 >>13273263 Ten thousand would..13273316 >>13273289 Also because Rowboat Gutsman was a resource micro-manager on par with a south korean starcraft player.13273349 ... Horus had many thousands. as did Rogal Dorn (who's veteran companies alone numbered around 3-5 thousand marines) and Ferrus Manus. Also.. Real world knowledge can influence its development much more readily. It's mentioned in one of the recent Horus Heresy novels. >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:16 No. But thats besides the point.>>13273239 It's also an intimately more familiar location. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:21 No.13273338 Space marines must be ungodly strong if there only needs to be 1k of them to bring them to "full strength" I always forget that in 40k 1 space marine could kill millions of soldiers in todays world. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:20 No. assuming a thousand per Great Company.. well. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:19 No. the greatest accountant. still put the post-Heresy Space Wolves ahead of the pre-Heresy Sons. the Smurfs only had that many because the two Lost Chapters were added to their numbers after whatever catastrophe it was that wiped them out. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:12 No. with his 7000 veterans. It might be the only thing he ever did well.13273344 >>13273316 When your fellow Primarchs (while discussing each Primarch's best quality) all agree that your skill is managing the planets your Legion has conquered. Rowboat Girlyman.

You have to remember that you shouldn't use them like ordinary soldiers.>>13273338 They're the rough equivalent of the SF.13273367 >>13273338 I depends how the Space Marines are used. Best used to take the head off the enemy your fighting. Amusingly enough. Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:21 No. They're surgical strike specialists..13273358 >>13273338 A squad of space marines with support could take down all of earth's combined military. They're meant for surgical strikes.000 per chapter? I don't want to sound like a fan boy. Rowboat went to all that trouble putting the Codex Astartes together. although in 40k "surgical strike" means kill half the enemy army with your shins. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:23 No. and then the tactics used by the Raven Guard became the norm. and then the IG or whatever steps in to finish off the body. simply because they're isn't alot you can do with just a thousand (who normally scattered all over the place in smaller groups as well). >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:22 No..13273378 >>13273358 . >> ¡Error! Objeto incrustado no válido.13273350 So des anyone remember when the cannon strength of marhoons was 10. but I always thought those numbers were more reasonable than just 1000..13273373 >>13273350 Space Marines tend to operate in small squads anyway. rather than butchering his useless citizenry. Though I suppose there's no need to make them any more powerful than they are already. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:23 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:22 No. the Green Berets. the very best at surgical strike tactics are the Raven Guard. They cut off the head of the snake. They are a surgical strike force.

13273390 >>13273373 I always thought of it as a hammer/anvil scenario.probably not.13273401 >>13273390 Thor's hammer Mjolnir was a penis metaphor. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:25 No. They could finish off the EARTH if it came to that. there's be no Hajjis left within 24 hours. Life must be so tragic and dystopian for the worthless scum of Terra. barely scraping by selling half their rations to pilgrims and doing one menial task day after day. with the IG as the massive anvil and the SM strike forces as a teensy but effective hammer. just because it wouldn't take too long for someone to realize it was time to bust out the atomics.13273399 >>13273378 WITH support.. It got bigger when he got excited. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:26 No. say. That's science. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:24 No.13273407 . >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:24 No.. Baghdad.13273384 I am going to play the hell out of this setting I tell you what. they could >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:26 No.13273405 >>13273399 That's because "support" implies a battleship or cruiser in orbit. but if they drop-podded into. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:26 No.

as their biggest selling faction.13273422 >>13273407 Dude.13273425 >>13273414 And yet the White Scars got the Asian primarch.13273414 >>13273344 True that. background materials and so on. Those fuckers dodge bullets like it ain't no thang. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:29 No.13273430 >>13273407 They released rules in White Dwarf once for "Movie Marines" that represented Space Marines as they were depicted in novels. Regular Space Marines should play more like Grey Knights. $38 for 10 guys when almost everybody else only has to pay $25 for 10 of their basic dudes? fucking Britjews make those guys bigger. 40k makes none. Put simply. Rowboat? His super power is doing math. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:28 No. where you could have 20 dudes in a 1500-2000 point game.>>13273367 >>13273373 This is why the way they play on the tabletop irritates me. Sense. but they could rapestomp almost anything. An entire army would be about ten. and Angron can eat a tank. and the models should be more truescaled. fluff Eldar would be just as invincible and also limited in number. GW is jacking the prices up anyway (seriously. Especially since. Rogal Dorn turns a little ditch into an impregnable fortress. they were fucking badasses. one marine was better . On average. then) >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:27 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:28 No. Conrad Curze makes whole worlds give up by being scary. maybe twelve to fifteen models.

before Matt Ward started fucking with everything) and the Khan was the ultimate at blitzkreigs/high-speed warfare.. . Still awesome. with his "anyone who isn't an ultramarine isn't really worthy of consideration and has dwindling numbers. >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:30 No.13273451 File1293183125. matt ward trollface..jpg-(31 KB.than some of the strongest SM special characters.13273454 >>13273425 White Scars also have the most stable gene-seed around (or at least they did. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:32 No.jpg) >>13273454 Fucking Ward.jpg) Phalanx is going to have its work cut out for it when the Tyranids show up. 459x499.13273471 File1293183218. Assault 4 stormbolters at S6 AP3 was fun times too.jpg-(68 KB.. carnifex brown carapace.13273443 >>13273430 WS9 S6 sergeants with 7 power attacks on the charge was hilariously fun. 750x555.13273450 >>13273430 Yeah. for closerto-fluff play. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:32 No. and is emo because they can never be an ultramarine" fanwank. though. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:33 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:32 No. but it's limited to a Tactical Squad and a Rhino. I know.

.13273523 >>13273513 .>> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:34 No. man. but Orks can kill marines. They don't even really need a significant tech base to achieve this. I think the Imperial Fists will be fine when the tyranids show up. blunt object. essentially. Orks make everything in a cave. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:38 No. with scraps. if the Orks solely focused on the Marines. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:37 No. Marines kill Orks like gangbusters. very big flyswatter. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:38 No. And they don't compare unfavorably with marines to a degree that they couldn't win if they all fought all the marines. Tyranids are bugs. and the IF have a very. Clever tactics or not.13273516 >>13273510 Fucking awesome fluff.. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:37 No.13273480 >>13273451 It could literally be classified as an entire battlefleet if firepower was what we were going off of. if you had Orks really focusing on the Marines. Sure. to a degree that would just grind the Marines. and rather handily.13273513 >>13273430 Movie marines? wat? >> Brewster 12/24/10(Fri)04:38 No. One cant help but love the khan. and Moar Munition.13273510 >>13273454 Mongols in spess. or even part of the orks did. they would die.13273522 >>13273069 And Orks can make Moar Ork. Some of them can aspire to killing Marines with a large.

All weapons are made of rape. where the hero.13273524 >>13273454 Yep. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:41 No. Mutant Blood Angels and puny can't-spit-acid Fists can suck it! >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:40 No. except with a squad and in power armor.jpg-(283 KB. guns down hundreds of bad guys in the space of ten minutes? Imagine that. and that's pretty much a fluff Space Marine. No flaws in the gene seed at all.jpg-(484 KB.13273532 >>13273523 Yep.13273548 File1293183696. there's some concern about the Red Highway Massacre but the admech considers the gene seed to have no imperfections. Basically everybody in the squad is 100 points.jpg) >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:41 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:38 No. That's what you get for being the Emperor's chosen defender. I'm pretty sure a combat knife counts as a power weapon. 1262990405803. movie marines 01. 500x720.13273552 File1293183712.You ever seen an action movie. dual wielding M249 machine guns. 1057x1210.jpg) How would you run a game set entirely on Mars featuring characters going through their studies to become techpriests and then rise through the order? .

13273623 >>13273524 Imperial Fists also cannot go into stasis.13273573 >>13273548 Ahaha.jpg) >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:44 No.jpg-(339 KB. 1052x812. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:49 No. gotta love how the Elite choice is 0-1 Space Marine Dudes.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:42 No.13273653 >>13273598 .well. the sergeant got headcapped fast. movie marines 02. either. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:50 No..13273615 >>13273598 Whoever made the Movie Marines rules forgot the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ONE: Anyone wearing his helmet is no better than an unarmed civilian. One of their heavy support guys exploded. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:53 No.13273558 File1293183768.. I guess Proteus was the Dude. Raven Guard can't spit acid.13273598 Now that there *is* a Space Marine movie. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:47 No. and I forgot what happened to the guy with the heavy bolter. Nor can they secrete mucus so as to go into vacuum.

. Each ship took repeated blows ( only cause they had to slow to near stopping speed to land) from the planetary defenses and still stayed up untill the whole of the Imperial fleet was able to converge fire. they were five of the smallest known ships on the necron armada. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:04 No. If anyone asks what army they should play when they're starting up 40k I'm going to suggest Movie Marines. or what? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:03 No. . Necron tech is serious bro.13273680 >>13273598 Protagonist was so the Dude! >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:01 No. They were so fast in the system the most sophisticated targeting equipment they had was worthless plus even as they slowed down.13273663 >>13269921 no. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:57 No. $-wise you can't go wrong. so the imperium is just left to wonder wtf they were doing there.13273679 >>13273663 oh and no wreckage was found (meaning the ships phased).. during approach. but because necron ships dont use the warp the imperium never saw them coming..13273710 So are we gonna painstakingly craft this DH Sol setting.Agh.13273737 . >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:57 No. They did not teleport they flew.13273734 >>13273548 >>13273558 Saving. I need to get a copy of that somewhere. it was near impossible for sensors to even track them until they were in mars' inner atmosphere.. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)04:54 No.

13273909 >>13273737 The Emperor has shown himself willing and able to tear shit up when he wants even while on the Golden Throne (Storm of the Emperor's Wrath. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:22 No. and all around shall be set sentinels to ward away unwary spacecraft. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:25 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:28 No.>>13273663 Yeah if crons wanted to they could just get a few tombships fly to terra and atomize the surface before the Imperium could react." Ganymede has been quarantined for millennia. stopping time as needed and so on). He even sheds a single tear every time a human warrior falls in battle.13273880 2e rulebook. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:07 No. Then fly off or phase out depending on what the navy does after seeing their world (and emperor) turned to ash. They just dont do so cause humanity is their pet project an as it prospers ( at least for now) the C'tan's work is done.13273928 >>13273909 Also Sensei Masters. All of these are carefully collected by the Custodes and stored in golden vials. the Contagion of Ganymede "Henceforth no man shall set foot upon the world. . and is now the eternal habitation of abomination. and neither the Mechanicus and Grey Knights are inclined or capable of going and purifying the area.13273763 >>13273710 I'm in. and Necrons attempting to destroy Terra would certainly inspire a response. We must accept that this place is lost to us forever.

13273937 >>13273928 He must be constantly crying then >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:29 No.13273981 . Horus left some vile daemonic engine there that was only recently rediscovered and it was quarantined because it fed off souls and the only way to kill it is to slowly starve it over thousands of years. Alternatively.13273962 >>13273939 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:34 No. so to will the Emperor.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:29 No. Twisted prophecies whisper that when the entity trapped on Ganymede finally dies.13273939 Quick question guys: Did 40k fluff ever make a part where humanity discover the "greys". or got offed off-screen. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:31 No. I've got it! Whatever lies there must be entirely human in origin.13273958 >>13273880 Hmm. Neither technological nor warp based. It's likely that they did not exist in 40k. You know the abducting aliens of Roswell? I'd love to see a the dark age of humanity kick their ass. Weird xenos artifacts? Nah the admech would be all over that. It's possible it's somthing out of both of their domains then. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:31 No. Either a relic from the dark age of technology (or even more ancient) or some biological experiment gone horribly wrong.

13274038 >>13273995 I just had the mental image of an Imperial Fist Marine kicking Daemon ass in a remake of th original Doom game.13274015 >Neptume >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:40 No. Thanks. Imperial Armour vol. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:47 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:39 No. Take of that what you will. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:36 No.13274034 >>13273958 Experimentation with Squattish warp-core tech caused it.1 >One of the worst cases of deviation from cult rules resulted in the infamous "Contagion of Ganymede" when unlawful experimentation with warp-coil technology resulted in the creation of a warp gate.>>13273962 Ah okay. and a possible Doom homage. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:43 No.13274021 Has this been archived yet? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:42 No.13273995 >>13273958 It's actually a failed ad-mech experiment in warp-cores.13274056 >>13274034 .

good in firepower and in close combat. attacks smart and planned. while AdMech attepts at creating their own stopped at the disaster of Ganymede. On topic. walks in to traps. Squats developed their own functioning warp-core tech separately.13274086 . In False Gods loads of Space Marine dies to alien with swords and reanimated guardsmen. HEAR THAT.No. kills every civilian resisting. are smart. Space Wolfs. don't like killing civlilans. Imperial fist. only best at defence. And since the Contagion is referenced to in Imperial Armour books. they are not "I AM GONNA KILL IT WITH AXE AND FIRE NOAW" so they don't need it. can take down every defence. It was a method of power generation utilizing the near-infinite power of the warp that was relatively stable. and actually within the capabilities of humans unlike Eldar wraithstuff. Iron Warriors. it did not get retconned like the Squats did. GW? THE SQUATS ARE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL! >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:53 No. what side? Loyalist. was because the loyalist got the mayority of the retarded legions. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:54 No. likes to cut themself. what side? Chaos. i don't think Space Marine are to weak. Thousand sons. Squats were killed by the Tyranids. fucks tactics. they have tactics already. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:53 No.13274080 Well the only reason Rowboat Girlyman had to write the codex. Derp fucking herp. aka TACTICS FOR DUMMIES. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:50 No. prefer tactic and uses psycic abilities to create perfect warmachine.13274071 >>13274056 Fuck that. what side? Chaos.13274082 The Squat warp core was considered one of the holy grails of DAoT tech by the AdMech back then. what side? Loyalist. So in the light of this it is quite obvious why Raven Guard don't uses the Codex. charge with axe.

.13274110 >>13274086 GW can try to erase them but they will never completely succeed.13274092 >>13274071 I'm pretty sure Jervis Johnson has gone on record as saying that they decided to have the Squats eaten because it gave them leeway to bring them back at some point ("carry the idea around in their back pockets") if they could work out a good way to re-insert them into the setting. Ganymede is quarantined because it is the last surviving Squat fortress? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:55 No.13274103 >>13274080 >Space Wolfs..13274121 >>13274080 >Implying GW actually gives axes with Spess Woofs instead of SWORDS SWORDS SWORDS I'd kill for some axes I didnt need to convert. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:58 No. what side? Loyalist. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:59 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:02 No. fucks tactics. You better back that up. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:02 No.Soo. because if there's one thing dwarves know how to manipulate in any universe it's canon.13274113 >>13274080 >Space Wolves >Kill all the civis Unless you're refurring to the Horus Hijinx and the lies about the Thousand Suns.. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)05:57 No. kills every civilian resisting. charge with axe.13274125 . >implying Space Wolves kill civilians and aren't fucking bro-tier Wat..

archive. it's stated somewhere that after a bunch of Wolves sacrificed their lives trying to save an entire planet from the Tyranids. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:04 No.com/wiki/Sol_System >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:02 No.13274133 >>13274127 That better not be Thousand Sons bitching. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:05 No.lexicanum. the 'Nids were so shocked that the Hive Mind became AFRAID of the Space Wolves.jpg) >>13274092 http://web. 1020x742. Russ practiced the Mongol style of warfare.13274126 >>13274113 >>13274103 Yeah.13274127 >>13274103 Heresy era Space Wolves didn't take prisoners and didn't offer terms of surrender or quarter once the battle was joined.specialistgames. all his space wolfs thinks the same thing.org/web/20060129002420/http://forums. Around page 200 attack on Phoenix Crag. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:04 No.13274135 >>13274103 "A Thousand Sons" book.asp? . It was extremely effective. kill everything as an example to every other enemy watching.http://wh40k. stronghold. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:03 No.jpg-(192 KB.com/epic/forum_b/topic. They did kill civilians if they got in the way.13274140 File1293188703. Wolf Lord himselfs says that all that chose to resisit deservs death.

>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:06 No. All that civi killing doesnt sound like Logan Grimnar would be happy about it though.13274152 >>13274127 This is highly unlikely to be true.13274151 >>13274133 >>13274135 Read Prospero Burns.ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=2532&whichpage=3 Sixth post is Jervis' view on the matter. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:07 No. the one about the Alpha Legion.13274156 >>13274135 >>13274127 Sounds like its more of a Wolf Lord to Wolf Lord kinda deal. Russ actually did offer Magnus terms of surrender. Great book. but Magnus didn't receive the message. there was a fucking huge backlash against it on all levels of the entire fleet.13274153 in one of the horus heresy books (I think it was "Legion".this sounds way over the top by comparison. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:10 No. out of love for his brother. Basically we are unlikely to see the space dwarf concept back in any other form than the Demiurg. could be "Fulgrim" as well though) there is mention of a giant forge city under a mountain in the Ural mountains.13274161 . When the Mournival trampled over civilians (killing many) to get Horus medical attention in the Heresy books. That makes more sense. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:07 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:07 No. And that was to save the Warmaster's life . and more like an author is playing favourites. willing to spare Prospero from the wrath of his Wolves and to allow a full civilian evacuation.

13274176 >>13274171 >Sol defence and setting Over here >>13273841 >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:16 No. Maybe get thread back on sol defence and setting? >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:15 No. no quarter is given. They won't stop them from running or evacuating before shit starts. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:12 No. I don't see how this is possible. And the Space Wolves were despised and feared by just about everyone during the Crusade because of this practice.13274177 . but if they're still there when the Wolves arrive.13274171 Damn. it was that the Loyalist got the retarded Legions and thus needed the Codex Astartes to not auto-lose. I play Wolves but the Hive Mind afraid of my idiot space vikings? That is straight up retarded. I hate GW. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:11 No. they don't spare enemy civilians once battle is joined.>>13274126 Somebody source this bullshit if its true.13274167 >>13274161 Seconded.13274163 >>13274152 Let me be clear. >>13274163 And they somewhat ended up on Loyalist side instead of Thousand sons. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:13 No. dereailing my derailing. unless their sheer MANGRIT took psychic form and cockslapped the hive mind into oblivion. My point was not Space Wolfes.

13274186 >>13274171 That's the entire point. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:17 No. The Space Wolves are made out in to be bloodthirsty barbarians while the Thousand Sons are given all the love. Magnus' superiority complex bought him a ticket to heresy long before Prospero.>>13274161 I think he might be (slightly incorrectly) remembering something in the Space Wolves codex: "A Tyranid splinter fleet falls upon the isolated. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:17 No.13274184 >>13274171 Please. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:18 No. Matt Ward Jr. Led by Skold Greypelt. Hence. and Shadrac is still claimed by the innumerable Tyranids." They all still died in the end.13274188 . Only a handful of warriors escape. bitterly cold world of Shadrac. with the former (and to an extent the latter) not falling into line with several events in other Heresy books. but could safely bargain with Tzeentch. He was arrogant to believe he not only knew better then the Emperor. but when a pack of Space Wolves appears out of nowhere. don't act like the Thousand Suns were innocent little angels. it appears that a miracle has arrived. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:18 No. the Space Wolves join the remaining Guardsmen in a last-ditch defense that consumes the entire swarm in a devastating explosion. but the Hive Mind learned to be wary of the Sons of Russ. They were willing to use humans as little magic guinea pigs to satisfy their curiosity and held themselves above the edicts of the fucking Emperor. it sounds more like an author playing favourites.13274185 >>13274171 Dont the Wolves kinda go against that point as they wont accept Rowboat Girlyman as their Spiritual liege though? They dont follow that shit as it isnt as Russ intended. The frostbitten Imperial Guard stationed there need a miracle to survive.

>>13274110
I see what you did there and it's brilliant.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:20 No.13274193

>>13274185
Space Wolves ignore it completely, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Raven Guard all ignore the
Codex when it suits them. Salamanders follow it to an extent, but if they have to choose
between it and saving civilians, they'll save the civilians every single time (which makes them
bro-tier).
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:21 No.13274198

>>13274184
Well i consider having a superiority complex and a will to do good to be less evil then
slaugtering civilians on a regulary basis.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:23 No.13274208

>>13274198
You didn't even read it, did you?
You're worse than fucking smurf fanboys.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:25 No.13274215

>>13274198
CHAOS.
TAINT.
BITCH.
Besides, they're just civilians. What good can they do for the holy Emperor? Zip.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:26 No.13274221

>>13274198
And Space Wolves only slaughter civilians in one book that doesn't even agree with previous or
subsequent books in the same fucking series.

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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:27 No.13274228

>>13274193
Salamanders are awesome. I almost want another MAHREEN army just because of them, but
between my Wolves, Crons, Nids and Orks I dont really want another army.
(Craigslist is the best site ever, by the way. Saves me SO much money)
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:29 No.13274238

>>13274228
And then you have to talk to all the pretentious Smurf fanboys who can't accept that they're not
the goddamn best at anything-everything.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:31 No.13274245

>>13274238
Why would I ever talk to them? Fuck Ultramarines.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:33 No.13274260

File1293190435.jpg-(68 KB, 647x982, Robert_Guillaume_(1980).jpg)

>your face when you see Rowboat Girlyman's inspiration

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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:38 No.13274282

So I know that Men of Iron were robots, but what about the Men of Stone? What where they?
Golems or something? Lexicanum sadly offers no information about them.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:40 No.13274294

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUkyAt6CJgU

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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:41 No.13274296

>>13274282
People. It's not fucking literal, moron. The Men of Iron weren't made of iron, either.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:43 No.13274310

>>13274296
>Men of Iron were legendary sentient humanoid machines
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:47 No.13274336

>>13274296
Im going to make men of Slaanesh, I wonder what they will be made out of since were being
figurative...
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:54 No.13274380

>>13274282
I always assumed the whole men of iron/stone/gold were an analogy for class conflict. The men
of gold were rich dudes who didn't need fo' nuthin', whilst the men of stone were downtrodden
working class men who had a glorious socialist uprising, and then got lazy (as many do when
they move up a class) and built robots to do all their shit for them.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)06:58 No.13274405

>>13274380
That could be, but the Lexicanum says the Men of Stone came before the Men of Iron, which
led me to believe that Men of Stone were some kind of predecessors to Men of Iron.
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Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)07:03 No.13274431

>>13273552
GRIMDARK Harry Potter, that's how

The necrons are beyond them in every single way. in order to test mankind which had become swelled with pride as in the time of Noah.13274545 File1293193501.. putting the words of their wise men to naught. Squats. in order that they may know that thou hast it also. See to it.. 1275x1651. and there will be none to fight back. of course. m'Lord..men of steel.jpg) iron stc was found and distroyed in one of the gaunts ghosts omnibus .jpg-(372 KB. and in secret. that thou fearest them as much as they shall now fear thee. but the Men of Stone were replaced by the more advanced Men of Iron. and to say to each prince: "Only because the enemies have such a thing have we devised this for thee.. and fear to strike. except possibly independent intelligence . and there followed the Flame Deluge. had commanded the wise men of that age. among them the Blessed Leibowitz.13274570 >>13274545 The men of steel were basically Terminators who were created by rogue AI's during the Dark Age of Technology. to devise great engines of war such as had never before been upon the Earth." But the princes. weapons of such might that they contained the very fires of Hell. is completely literal and the Earth was blown to shit via fire from heaven. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)07:25 No. and that God had suffered these magi to place the weapons in the hands of princes.necrons?? >> ¡Error! Objeto incrustado no válido. thought each to himself: If I but strike quickly enough.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)07:04 No. I shall destroy these others in their sleep. This. Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)07:28 No.13274444 >>13274405 And by predecessor I mean that they were both basically the same thing (servants built by humans). that none may unleash this dread thing which we have wrought. Such was the folly of princes.13274437 >>13274405 It was said that God. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)07:06 No. the earth shall be mine.

That's a nice Speeder.13275692 >>13271501 And they taste better to a C'tan when covered in tartar sauce..youtube. The poor people on Terra are just rich people.. using Elysians. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)11:32 No... Space Marines and Karskin. http://www. Terra is one giant hiveworld.gif) >>13273256 Say.. they'd be an entire PDF made out of gravchute wearing bolter toting Karskin.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)10:41 No.13276012 >>13272631 >>13272632 Yes.13276428 >>13269685 Best rendering of what the Sol System would look like I could find And yes Hive World. 250x226. :3 >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)11:25 No. One of those Eavy Metal painters made a squad of them..13276042 >>13272661 Merikans.gif-(35 KB. They're possibly the best equiped Imperial Guard/PDF regiment in the entire galaxy. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)11:27 No. >> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)12:39 No.13275997 File1293207912. A hiveworld where people pay a million thrones to rent a room the size of a dorm. Fluffwise.com/watch?v=SiM8drnIR0Y . Only rich people live on Terra. instead of rich-rich people. T-1000.

Infact it wasn't until recently they noticed any other life form other than themselves.13276566 >>13271360 >C'mon /tg/ we can do better than this. hotheaded blue giants.>> Anonymous 12/24/10(Fri)13:02 No. Stars are also alive. Now the stars create avatars in the form of beautiful humanoids with Glowing hair and burning eyes. Computers are arrays of vat grown brains and are capable of preforming magical spells read off preprogrammed "scrolls"** Some are capable of independent thought but most are emotionless automations. some sorcerers specialize in "hacking" this network of minds even entering into peoples subconsciouses. This changed when several billions of years aggo the ancients discovered a way to communicate with them. Each Star God could have a distinct personality -. No we can't. They live so long and are so large that they did not notice anything that the biological races did. These avatars only posses a tiny amount of their stars power but are still easily some of the most powerful beings in known space. Well other stellar bodies are also alive such as neutron stars. *save Orion. old stars reminiscing about the good old days when the galaxy was young. Interstellar communications travel through the astral plane which analogous to "the matrix" in cyberpunk fiction.calm steady red dwarfs. Star Gods. Astrology would be serious business. Quasars. and black holes. Communication. They are some of the most powerful beings in the universe but for the most part they keep to themselves. ** not actual paper "scroll" is a generic term for any spell designed to be preformed by a computer. Black holes are the most powerful but usually remain silent. Computers. I like the Star Gods idea a lot. . The flow of plasma in the core of a star can develop a consciousness and manifest great magical power.

This kind of reminds me of the Juraian race in the Tenchi Muyo series especially in the original OAV and Tenchi Universe. that transform their young early in development to fit into a social role (living computers for calculating dimensional travel can be obtained from this race . They are called mana blasters or just blasters. I myself am building up a monster manual. A single sorcerer called a TransNav casts the spell with the help of a bank of Magi-tech computers. They are basically like magic missile wands. A child could pull it but it . you have to capture one of these demons. kill the security. Space travel is a achieved by magically manipulating Dimension. power armor that appears innocuous and energy sabers They would not use something as crude as a jet of energy. there swords are made of living wood* harder than steel with a mono-molecular edge and oozing acid. however. which refers to the space-time continuum. Thats pretty much how Ray guns work in this setting. One of the forms I came up with was 'Dimension'. and these include: A race of intelligent cast aliens.As I sead before FTL travel is a powerful teleport spell. If you need a new ship. The Juraian race are more like a very big family (with lots of inbreeding) of druids with bioengineering plant-based technology that gives them living starships. but there are ray guns here. Each TransNav is rated on a scale from one two ten indicating the maximum range the TransNav can safely jump. Because of the opportunity for free travel Joining the navigators guild is a good opportunity for a young sorcerer to make a living. They are not that much more effective than our normal attacks. (No reputable captain would trust his ship to a non guild member) A TransNav is hired on a per trip basis however some prefer to stay with the same ship.but its ultimate loyalty is to its race NOT its keeper). and make your way to the "bridge" where you plug yourself into it's mind to dominate it. where clockwork demons live. Great care must be taken because accuracy decreases exponentially from even small errors in the Preliminary calculations. For ranged combat they use bows with strings of living tissue. Any violation of this limit will result in the immediate suspension of your license. Not only that. Between worlds. there is "The Black". TransNavs are all in the Navigators guild which has a monopoly on star travel. They are hired by jump with price negotiated by distance and weather or not the Nav wants to go to that particular planet. get aboard. This demons are basically spacecraft.

Travel between planets would be done with special ships. *Yes I have read 'speaker for the dead' **Yes I have watched 'Ghandahar' ***Yes I have played 'genforge' Beholders are an enigma. Are there pantheons for each planet. I would probably require 'Teleport Without Error' for interplanetary travel. One issue to ask with a space based game: deities. currents.** They also use smaller weapons called thorncasters witch are like small worms that attach to your forearm and spit Acid thorns art your enemies. or even more difficult. because then you have ports of call and waystations. And well we've all watched Aliens. but I'm sure that this is already covered. or are they interstellar in range? Are the gods of a planet subservient to or fragments of overgods? How many layers of divine feudalism are there? Teleporting IS dangerous. Unlike the other races that use tools to enhance there magic.. Deveations of more than 1AU are not unheard of and thats assuming you arrive in one place.. occasionaly islands.fires with the muzzle velocity of a Rifle. I want ships. I haven't read Spelljammer. and terrible predators. What they don't tell you is about the platoon of imperial legionaries that was sent to investigate. the beholders must draw all there power from inside. Space is like a black ocean. Everyone has heard the story of the free traders who picked up an unknown distress signal on an alien world and promptly disappeared. The matriarchs form a high council leading the entire race.*** Elven military organization centers around war-shapers who create large monsters to do their bidding. Teleporting from place to place removes the risk of the wild. Such an intelligent and powerful race with not manipulatory appendages. Next I will post more on Dwarfs. Trolls are an urban legend. Elven society is tribal and centered around extended family groups led by amatriarch. with vorticies. . The arrows grow into trees when they taste blood. Elven starships are space whales and there space stations are Dyson trees.

A Sorcerer of significant power can break free of the need for a physical body and become a god. The Elders claim to not support the actions of there younger brethren but nobody believes that for a minute. Whats that? You already have life? I'm sorry I can't here you over the sound of my armies crushing you into oblivion. Obviously Dwarves and Elves hate each other. Inelegant beings seek to get bigger and more powerful. Bolt sides want them. Is Terra less Aggressive than her peers? Does her cult have less influence in the imperial court? Perhaps but the real reason probably is that she has other concerns. Orcs being highly adaptable can assimilate into any ecosystem and thus make perfect mercenaries for this sort of thing. The Dwarven mining cooperations hire Orc mercenaries to claim the worlds for them. Humans try to stay neutral on this matter. Knowing a full out conflict between magical civilizations would be devastating bolth sides opt instead to wage a series of proxy wars. Politics. The planet gods of both Valkar and Lorien (the Dwarf and Elf homeworlds respectively) are highly expansionistic and the druid cults of both encourage this war. The Dwarves want to place artificial moons and core disruptors around the planets to increase volcanic activity. The elves send there radical youths on holy wars to spread the word of the planet mother to the heathen worlds. In this setting Anything that can change will inevitability evolve and become intelligent. Memes in the astral communication network can achieve sentience and become godlike. Get big enough and people will start worshiping you. These teraforming wars are pushed on by both races planet gods. The act of teraforming is basically how planets reproduce. The Empire of Mankind is at war with the Mindflayers. The elves want to plant lots of trees and make them nice and fertile. . This hatred boils down to a land dispute. In an effort to stop the slithering hordes they support Gith Partisans. The collective subconscious intelligence of a planets life forms a single godlike entity. There are several sectors in the eastern fringe of the galaxy that are largely unclaimed. As to what the planet getting teraformed? well if it had any complaints it should have evolved intelligent life earlier. Sure you can have Snobby Decadent Feudal pantheons but they got there by Æons of hard work and there is nothing stooping you from doing this too. By spreading its life to other planets it creates a "child" who may then spread its own genetic material. Stars are gods.Lots of stopping at waystations to recharge and make course corrections. I like transhumanism in my epic fantasy. And there are huge bustling Starports.

This problem is solved by "computers" simple Vat grown brains programed to read spells of of scrolls. Screaming. The elves would use creatures specially bred for the tasks. Not to mention the potential for psionically brainwashed sleeper agents and "Manchurian Candidate" style assassins. Magic can be used by almost any sentient being. These computers however lack any sort of will and must be given instructions to do anything. using their massive psychic powers to selectively manipulate the cultures and ideologies of their slave races. I could even imagine what the Dwarves and Elves of this setting might use. Simple enchantments like illumination spheres and runes of cooking are easy enough but more advanced ones like teleportation arrays and seeing orbs need to be maintained by some sort of intelligence. Fortunately anyone can use magical items which can be bought in any store. Because of this the elves hate Gliths and have a strained relationship with there human Allys. To actually do anything useful or even noticeable however will take years of study and practice. . Former slaves to the Mindflayers see destroying the Illithid empire as the highest purpose and would do anything to stop them. She is still down there trapped in there collective unconscious. the Mind Flayers for their larger devices just wipe the personalites from captured sentients and link them together as a neural net. The Illithid's own hive mind absorbed its planet god a long time ago. And speaking of computational brains. I myself could see the Dwarves using crystalline devices grown in vats of mineral rich fluids. Wizards are like engineers. This includes dealing with the Drow in exchange for bioweapons. Even if you don't know it you are manipulating it at the sub atomic level uncounciously. I could see the Mind Flayers as masters of memetic engineering. A planet god is a psychic gestalt of all the life on a planet tied together by genetic similarity.Giths. The Illithid have no planet god.

Jack Vance seems to do well with The Dying Earth. Large scale spelcasting is powered by banks of magical computers. ala Wells. nothing really prohibits the rest of the universe from being just as weird and magical as the local campaign. while Dragonstar was a good take on "fantasy turned in to space opera tech-magic". which relies on Victorianera assumptions in early sci-fi. and as such. or their fantasy worlds are built on the ruins of a fabulous future civilization that collapsed. Which leads me to think of mecha wearing paladins who can merge their holy avenger type weapons with their battle mecha and enchant the whole mess to fight giant space demons. but maybe the item could also confer its enchantments to whatever it is plugged in to. Plug a magical sword or whatever into a specially designed casing and viola.you have a computer for your ship. a GM can make such games very internally consistent. Magic is fundamentally contractory to the real-world laws of physics. With some work.. Course you could also do this with summoning spirits or something. and such.it's all essentially magic.. Of course a truly sapient artifact with a personality Is much more useful than an array of arcane number crunchers who can only serve to amplify the spells of a human mage..Is there anything unusual about the void of space itself? Computers are living minds and the internet is the astral plane. a lot of vintage fiction. And the Dying Earth is a world where tech and magic are probably the same. The Planet gods are a metaphor for religious conflict. and some books (didn't Card write a series about this) deal with worlds of apparent fantasy that have forgotten technology at their roots. In these games. Most things in here represent something else.) Also I admit. I also can also think of at least half a dozen guys I've known who run their campaigns on the assumption that all magic is really lost tech. Actually. then. wands of lightning are really ray guns.. Doyle. I am a sucker for analogy. Along the lines of games.. I still say that Spelljammer got it right. magic is really psionics or quantum manipulation. from Stasheff's Reluctant Warlock (or whaever he was) to De Camp's Harold Shea character deal with mixtures of real and fantasy. and Spelljammer did a nice job of extrapolating from that notion to creating a truly mythic universe with space travel done entirely through magic. and the many weird races are genetic trans-species beings or mutants. Well almost everything is intelligent in this. Intelligence magical items can become a stand in for AI. A good Victorian-Era example can also be found with Space: 1889. . "Hackers" travel through the dreamscapes of people's subconscious and battle the Daemons (Memes) that live there. but so many millions of years have passed that no one can tell where one starts and the other ends. Most of this started with me thinking that Shadowrun would be much better if it was actually a fantasy setting that had grown into the modern age (which is what I though when I first heard of it.

. and The Last Green Tree both by Jim Grimsley. you should look at Silence Leigh Trilogy by Melissa Scott. which do the same thing far more strangely.. if you move it forward a century or two in to space..php?340289-holy-fuck-EpicBestiary/page2&p=7462687&posted=1#post7462687 . which mixes space opera and magic quite well.rpg. I love this idea. For inspiration.net/showthread.EDIT: And while I don't know much about it (because I hate the anachronistic nature of it) but Shadowrun seems very close to what you are shooting for. https://forum. or the somewhat more unusual The Ordinary.