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HOW THE JEWISH LOBBY WORKS By Brother Nathanael Kapner - Copyright © 2008 All Articles May Be Reproduced Only With Authorship of Br Nathanael Kapner & Link To Real Jew News Please Help Support This Site! (Many Expenses) Or Send Your Contribution To: Brother Nathanael Kapner; PO Box 170; Dillon CO 80435; Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Sources: Jewish Power: Inside the Jewish Establishment, J.J. Goldberg; The Modern Jewish Experience, Dr. Jack Wertheimer; Imperial Designs, Gary Dorrien; The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, Mearscheimer & Walt Here. —— NO LOBBY IS FEARED MORE or catered to by politicians than the Jewish Lobby. If a politician does not play ball with the Jewish Lobby, he will not get elected, or re-elected, and he will either be smeared or ignored by the Jewish-owned major media. All Jewish lobbies and organizations are interconnected and there are hundreds upon hundreds of them. The leaders of the numerous Jewish Lobby Groups go to the same synagogues, country clubs, and share the same Jewish investment bankers. And this inter-connectedness extends to the Jews who run the Federal Reserve Bank, US Homeland Security, and the US State Department.
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US Homeland Security, and the US State Department. In other words, “Jews stick together.” Americans must know how extremely powerful the Jewish Lobby is and how it operates to undermine America’s interests both at home and abroad. At home - by corrupting America’s political system, and abroad - by dictating American Foreign Policy against America’s best interests. Here is a list of the major Jewish Lobby Groups & how they work: American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC): AIPAC has a staff of over 150 employees and an annual budget of over $60 million Here derived from private contributions from wealthy Jews and Jewish-owned businesses. In other words, “money corrupts & Jewish money corrupts the American political system absolutely.” ~ AIPAC has many “PACS” attached to their Lobby. PACS are “Public Action Committees,” sanctioned by Federal Law, that give huge donations to political candidates. PACS are the means by which AIPAC and all Jewish lobbies utilize the immense wealth of Jewry to bribe US politicians. AIPAC is currently lobbying for the US to attack Iran Here & Here. AIPAC’s Executive Director is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Howard Kohr. American Jewish Congress (AJC): Its antecedents began in 1918 when Woodrow Wilson’s “influential friends,” Rabbi Stephen Wise, (founder of AJC in 1930), and Judge Louis Brandeis, (co-founder), participated Here in the drafting of the infamous Versailles Treaty of 1919 which made unreasonable demands on Germany. ~ In the 1930’s, the AJC led a major boycott of German goods in America, which, among other provocations of the Jews, prompted a backlash against the Jews in Germany Here. ~ Currently, the AJC works with pandering Congressman and “bought” Senators like Senator Jeff Bingaman to push through Bills with Zionist agendas Here. The AJC also has many “PACS.” AJC’s Executive Director is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Neil B. Goldstein. Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations: 51 of the largest Jewish organizations come together regularly Here under the umbrella group of the Conference. Their Mission Statement reads, “Forging diverse groups [there is no such as “diverse” in Jewry] into a unified force to foster the special USIsrael relationship” Here. The Conference also has many “PACS.” The Conferences’ Executive Chairman is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Malcolm I. Hoenlein. Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA): Founded in 1976 by Jewish neocons Richard Perle & Eliot Abrams. Its mission is to promote US aid to Israel with military hardware Here & Here. JINSA has its Jewish tentacles everywhere including the US Department of Defense Here. ~ JINSA has a formidable array of Washington power players on its rolls. Prior to Bush’s Presidency, JINSA’s Board of Advisers included Dick Cheney, Elliot Abrams (now the Deputy National Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy), John Bolton (now Under Secretary of State for Arms Control) and Douglas Feith, who was Bush’s third-highest-ranking executive in the Pentagon. Cheney, Abrams, and Bolton are still in power having as their well-connected supporters, the Jews of JINSA. ~ Part of JINSA’s annual budget is spent on providing lavish “educational” trips to Israel for key politicians & high ranking US military personnel. Northrop Grumman, (Feith’s Law Firm represents Northrop Grumnan Here), which has sold ships, Hawkeye planes, and radar systems to Israel, are also represented in the JINSA membership. [Good networking for those Jewish-influenced contracts! Here ] ~ JINSA’s President is the powerful Anti-Christ Jew, Norman Hascoe. JINSA’s National Chairman is the powerful Anti-Christ Jew, (he is also McCain’s Fund Raiser Here), Mark Broxmeyer, a NY Real Estate Tycoon. Middle East Forum (MEF): It’s Mission Statement Here reads, “The Middle East Forum seeks to promote American interests in the Middle East. We define U.S. interests to include fighting radical Islam whether terroristic or lawful [dropping US cluster bombs on Arab children in Gaza Strip & shutting off fuel and water supplies to the Gazans]; working for Palestinian acceptance of Israel; [ethnic cleansing of Palestinians until only 1 Palestinian is left to “accept” Israel]; and countering the Iranian threat [bribing US politicians to declare war on Iran].” ~ MEF’s Director is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Daniel Pipes. Zionist Organization Of America (ZOA): Founded in 1897 to promote political Zionism. Currently the ZOA has over 30,000 members in every major US city Here. The ZOA boasts on its Web Site: — “The ZOA has played a key role in Congress [bribes] regarding victims of terrorism [Jews only/Jews are rarely “innocent victims”]; keeping Jerusalem unified under Israeli sovereignty [illegal settlements in the West Bank]; fighting Hamas and Fatah [US-made cluster bombs dropped on Arab children in Gaza Strip]; and working on the imposition of sanctions on Syria and Saudi Arabia [and the illegal invasion of Iraq where not a single Jewish soldier from America has died!].” — ZOA’s National President is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Morton A. Klein.
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Or Please Send Your Contribution To: Brother Nathanael Kapner PO Box 170 Dillon CO 80435 Email: email@example.com admin @ April 14, 2008 « Iraq: A War For The Jews? Interviews! Why Am I Called An Anti Semite? » 49 Comments 1. Brenda April 14, 2008 @ 7:38 am American Christians have a duty and responsibilty before God. They must live their lives fully as Christians. On Judgement Day they will not be able to provide the excuse: Lord, I did not know. American Christians have ample opportunity to KNOW what it is that God expects from them: through
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Scripture, and through those who preach the Word of God. It is also the responsibility of every Christian to research, find and explore the Truth of their Faith. Those who sit complacently by expecting “others” to do their job, will be judged harshly. Christ said that many will call out to him, “Lord, Lord, did we not work miracles in your name?” He will say, “Depart from Me, I knew you not.” When Brother Nathanael posts his exposure of such things as the Jewish Lobbys that are having a devastating effect upon our American Christian culture and we, as Christians effectively do nothing, we are choosing then to NOT be Christians. . . and that will have an everlasting effect on others and our own souls. Evil could not flourish in this society if Christians lived their Faith. If Christians abided by the precepts laid before us by Christ and the Apostles, for example, bribery would have little effect. If Christians did not live a shallow and materialistic existence, corruption would be less prevalent. If a man’s word were his bond, corruption could not abide to the degree that it does. There will always be those who choose to do evil — but will there always be Christians to live holy lives in opposition to Evil. We shall see. 2. Loren April 14, 2008 @ 11:37 am Definitely. But in the many churches that I have been in over the years, some have taught and stressed “touch not God’s anointed”, often times referring to the pastor and his elders/leaders/etc, the effect being, that even in bringing something “into question” is a gross violation against those God has set into authority. Consequently, the tough questions never get asked, or if asked, not answered, or if answered, in the favor of those “on top”. So, in the context of this environment, it is next to impossible to bring up the topics that are discussed on this website, especially any that would criticise “the Jews”, because they are, after all, “God’s chosen people”, and so, can do whatever they want to whomever they want, without consequence. Which is obviously, to anyone with a sound mind and a clear conscience, blatantly false. Any honest reading through the Old Testament would give ample evidence that God Himself has had more than one occasion when He has taken serious issue against “His chosen people”, even to the point of blasting them verbally through the prophets, even to the point of bringing forth judgments and wrath upon them. Would He be any different today towards “the Jews”, or even towards “the Christians”? And should “the Christians” drop the ball (as “the Jews” had done previously), will God choose another who will be responsive to Him? Yes. “Once saved, always saved” IS a false doctrine at the least, and a lie from hell at the most (ie, the serpent’s lie “surely you will not die”). Lucifer was God’s “chosen” at the remote past, but “fell” from his “salvation”. If he, who was before the very Throne of God, in God’s Holy Presence, day after week after month after year .. AND YET, turned away and left and REBELLED and WAGED WAR … then so too can “God’s chosen people”. “The Jews” turned away from their salvation when He (Jesus) was here in the flesh. They still await their messiah. A false one they will accept (the yet-to-be anti-christ), but the true One they rejected - and when the true One returns, He won’t be coming in peace, but in war against ALL who oppose Him! including those of “the Jews” who oppose Him! including those of “the Christians” who have “fallen away” from their faith. The problem that John the Baptist had with King Herod was that he never brought gifts unto the King, but only the unadultered Word of God! As much as John grated against the King, the King admired John, for he knew that John would always tell him the truth, while his loyal counselors would tell him only what he wanted to hear. In the end, however, John’s “speaking truth to power” cost him his head - but not his Eternity! Christianity in this nation, for the most part, has not, and is not, willing to speak truth to power because Christians are not willing to lose their heads as John did, nor willing to sacrifice themselves unto the Truth, nor willing to take up their crosses, and follow the One who has called them unto purity. For this, Jesus will spit them out of His mouth! It is time to be as John the Baptist, to speak truth to power, to declare, and to live, the unadultered Word of God unto and before ALL (yet, with the mercy and graciousness of God, for where would any of us be without His mercy and graciousness?). For example : The Federal Reserve was from its inception of Satan. Christians should have nothing to do with this occult dark power and means of carnal lust-driven sustenance. But do we declare such? Or do we willingly accept Federal Reserve Notes, and ask God to bountifully bless that which is inherently EVIL? Can God bless Satan? Can Light bless darkness? Can Love bless hatred? Can Life bless death? On Day One of the Creation Account, God SEPARATED His Light from Lucifer/Satan’s darkness. SEPARATION! Be ye separate! Be we, as Christians, have not separated ourselved from this evil institution of darkness called the Federal
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Be we, as Christians, have not separated ourselved from this evil institution of darkness called the Federal Reserve, but have EMBRACED IT! Who is willing to go up against the Federal Reserve and to declare unto them the unadultered Word and Truth of God? Doing so will cost one’s life, even as John the Baptist, even as JFK … But rather to have one’s head cut off and gain Eternity, than to have Jesus spit one out of His mouth and lose Eternity. After about a year or so after 9-11, I quit going to church, because I could no longer tolerate the blindness of so many claiming to see. When the President encouraged everyone to “return to business as usual”, he was cursing this Nation in returning to “sin as usual”, and sin has grown abundantly since! to the point that we have lost all of our Rights, all of our Freedoms, all of our Liberties, all of our Dignities as Americans, and now are at the point of God bringing forth Judgment against ALL of U.S. “For I will remove both the righteous and the wicked from the land”. Things had gotten so bad in Old Testament Israel, that God declared that He would remove EVEN the righteous from the land, and remove them FIRST! Christian, WAKE UP! THAT’S YOU God is talking to! He WILL REMOVE YOU FIRST from the land, when He finally comes against this nation in judgment. In great fear and trembling, let us humble ourselves before the Almighty God, and confess our sins unto Him and unto one another. Let us pray for the wicked, pray for the hungry, the homeless, the fatherless, the motherless, the righteous, the wicked. PRAY! Build up in Scriptures. Let the Spirit minister to our souls, and may the Peace of Christ rule in our hearts, as our Faith becomes more and more anchored in Him, and then, unwavering, humbled before God, and honest before Man, with mercy and graciousness and steadfastness, declare the unadultered Word of God unto power, as John the Baptist did, and the many Prophets of God before him. Before we can take this Nation back for Christ, we need to take back for Christ our own individual lives in obedience unto Him and in what He has called us forth to do. Before we can speak Truth unto power, we need to live the Truth first. 3. Lynda April 14, 2008 @ 12:09 pm “Evil could not flourish in this society if Christians lived their Faith.” Thank you for this comment Brenda. I understand exactly where you are coming from on this one. I think Christianity in America (which is very diverse) should come more sharply into focus when it comes to the Church Militant and the responsibilities of the Church Militant. In E Supremi Apostolatus, (1903), Pope St Pius X begins “Society at the present time, more than in any past age, is suffering from a terrible and a deep rooted malady…apostacy from God.” And further to this he adds: “All the strength of Satan’s reign is due to What? Or to Whom? The Jews and their money No The Synagoge and its political extensions No Corrupt politicians No Banks who own nations and engineer wars and famines and generally boss people around No Idolatrous religions No Islam or Islamo-fascists No The general Christian who has a ‘Jesus and Me’ approach to faith, who thinks the church should not meddle in politics, who thinks the Kingship of Christ is only a spiritual concept and that Apostolic Law has nothing to do with the laws of nations and the temporal order because ‘you can’t legislate morality’ None of the above “All the strength of Satan’s reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics” according to Pope St Pius X. And what is on the Catholic itinerary for April? Why Benedict’s visit, of course. On (Jewish) Passover Eve, Benedict will be gathering with ‘our Elder Brothers in the faith’ and the Rabbis to pray at the Park East Manhattan Synagogue. “Carl MacGowan, “Rabbis Applaud Pope’s Visit to Manhattan Synagogue” Newsday, April 3, 2008)
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Synagogue” Newsday, April 3, 2008) Every body else feels free to Take Offense - the Muslims if you draw a funny picture of Mahmoud, the Jews if you put a Nativity Scene in the school atrium, or some anointed victim if you say ’surgically altered’ instead of ‘transgendered’ or ‘homosexual’ instead of ‘gay’. So why aren’t Catholics taking offense at this? Not that I think Benedict is the pope, but even the idea of the anti-pope praying with people who exult in the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ and curse his name - as the Talmud does - shouldn’t even the most tepid forms of Christianity find this to be repugnant? Or what about the premier of The Sword of Constantine based on James Carroll’s “Constantine: the Church and the Jews” also opens on Passover Eve, April 18, 08. Naturally, the media (for Goys) will go all ape on all channels. There will be a huge schtick on all ‘the sins of the Church’. Constantine was a Tetrarch of Rome. When the reign of Diocletian collapsed (probably under the sheer weight of Christians martyred for the faith), the Money Power (guess who) decided to make a cool Matzoh by having the 4 generals of the Roman Tetrarchy fight it out for power. This was an exciting time, they had the barbarians invading from the North, they had Christians being routinely carted off to the arenas to die as public entertainments, they had a huge international slave market. In a scene very reminiscent of today, all they needed was a good long war. But it all backfired under the sign of the cross when the armies of Constantine were victorious. All he did was issue the Edict of Milan saying the Empire will now tolerate the Christian Faith. Well. The Chosen are still caterwauling about it. So this meritless film premiers on Passover Eve. How many Christians are going to register their opposition to this farce? How many will say, well - let’s have a week of feria: boycott all 100 Goy channels, make only the most basic purchases… Whatever it takes. 4. Michael Cecil April 14, 2008 @ 12:10 pm Of the four options suggested above for ’stopping the Jewish lobby’, my guess is that this civilization will, most likely, choose option 1: Commit suicide. Senators do not believe in sin. Voting or not voting makes no difference. Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and atheists will never ‘pray to Jesus’. And any ‘power’ Jesus had was not in his “cross”, but in his Teaching… Which the media has made CERTAIN that, some 1970 years later, not even so much as ONE WORD remains; the Christians being followers of Paul rather than Jesus. Michael Cecil http://after-the-false-peace.blogspot.com/ http://science-of-consciousness.blogspot.com/ 5. ShadowDancer April 14, 2008 @ 12:11 pm If your Nation turns out to be a Beast Kingdom/Nation, Mystery Babylon, or the Beast of Revelation then God has already decreed his Judgment upon any who worship the Beast, the Image of the Beast, or Mystery Babylon. My consideration of Mystery Babylon is there is a high percentage Mystery Babylon builds the Globalist system of the Beast. Some think this is the New World Order. Enter the False Prophets of various Religions who love & adore their Beast Kingdom/Nation, thus the Beast who think this Beast is doing God’s work when the Beast was doing the Devil’s work all along. Perhaps they are the False Apostacy that merely use Religion & the name of God in vain to perpetrate their own evil worldly agenda’s upon the earth as man was doing long before Jesus was even born of human flesh. The primary Beasts would have been the Govt.’s of Herod & Rome in Jesus’s time. The founders of the USA patterned their Nation after Rome according to my readings. When the Israelites asked God for a King so they could be like the other Nations (envy) God told them a King would enslave them. God knew in their hearts they didn’t want what he wanted for them so he gave them a King. Eventually they ended up with the Herod’s & Caesar’s of Rome. Perhaps God’s idea of freedom and the world of man’s idea of freedom are two different things. Jesus taught his Father’s Spiritual Kingdom that is not of the world of man, nor worldly things that can include worldly political philosophies, religious philosophies, business philosophies, educational philosophies, and philosophies in general. All man did was take Jesus and turn him back into Religion then started murdering and thieving in his name. & So this world is now as it is & is as prophecy has stated & will get worse as time goes along. 6. Lynda April 14, 2008 @ 1:29 pm “And any ‘power’ Jesus had was not in His ‘cross’ but in his Teaching.”
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“And any ‘power’ Jesus had was not in His ‘cross’ but in his Teaching.”
You are a Heretic, Michael Cecil. On what possible basis could you make such a wicked statement. The Testament to Jesus is written within the community of faith, namely the Church. The Gospels are the written Testament of the Apostles and sealed in the blood of their marytrdom (except for John the Evangelist) and those of their bishops. And you are telling the readers of Real Jew News that not one word of the Gospels remains? Really! Then where, then do you get one word of testament to the Teaching of Jesus if not from the Gospels? Your statement is a nonsense in and of itself. Here is what Jesus himself, according to the Testament of John, TEACHES about his cross. “Now is the judgment of the world: now shall the prince of this world be cast down. “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all things to myself. “Now this he said to signify what death he should die.” The Gospel According to St John 12:31-33.DRV “Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast down” is fundamentally a statment about power, Michael Cecil, or it is statement about nothing. Therefore does St Paul, our Lord’s Apostle to the Gentiles say: “The cross is the power of God unto salvation.” Basically, Michael, you have no concept of Jesus or his Teaching. 7. r April 14, 2008 @ 3:43 pm Now i get it when THEY say WE are all connected. 8. krylon April 14, 2008 @ 4:44 pm “And any ‘power’ Jesus had was not in His ‘cross’ but in his Teaching.” You are a Heretic, Michael Cecil. On what possible basis could you make such a wicked statement. lol, a ‘heretic’ ? The basis is: he spent 20 years doing what exactly? (teaching) and ONE DAY on the cross. I think your missing the point entirely. how is the statement ‘wicked’? and where do you get off calling people ‘wicked heretics’? A little judgemental for a so-called christian isnt it? I mean, you dont even know the man, and on the basis of one neutral comment your calling him an evil person? please explain yourself…pleeeaasse… 9. admin April 14, 2008 @ 4:56 pm Get your “accusations” right dear krylon. Lynda did not say that M Cecil was a “wicked” heretic. But she did say he was a “heretic.” And that is a Christian thing to do when someone contradicts the Gospel of Christ. St Paul said in the opening chapter of Galatians, “If any man bring to you another Gospel that you have not received, let him be anathema (accursed.)” So Lynda was easy on M Cecil. And I agree with her completely. +bn 10. Brenda April 14, 2008 @ 4:56 pm Loren, some very thoughtful comments. I did find a deeper understanding about God’s chosen people when I read and prayed over Romans 9, 10, and 11. The Israel of the Bible is not the state of Israel today. Jesus Christ was the Fulfillment of the Old Law, He is the New Covenant. Those who keep the Old Law and refuse to accept Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, have lost their standing as God’s chosen people. Here is just a partial excerpt of Romans 9: An excerpt from the Jerusalem Bible, 1966 edition. . . “C. THE PLACE OF ISRAEL The privileges of Israel 9. What I want to say now is no pretence; I say it in union with Christ – it is the truth – my conscience in union with the Holy Spirit assures me of it too. What I want to say is this: my sorrow is so great, my mental anguish so endless, I would willingly be condemned and be cut off from Christ if it could help my brothers of Israel, my own flesh and blood. They were adopted as sons, they were given the glory and the covenants; the Law and the ritual were drawn up for them, and the promises were made to them. They are descended from the patriarchs and from their flesh and blood came Christ who is above all, God for ever blessed! Amen. God has kept his promise Does this mean that God has failed to keep his promise? Of course not. Not all those who descend from Israel are Israel; not all the descendents of Abraham are his true children. Remember: It is through Isaac that your name will be carried on, which means that it is not physical descent that decides who are the children of
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your name will be carried on, which means that it is not physical descent that decides who are the children of God; it is only the children of the promise who will count as the true descendents. The actual words in which the promise was made were: I shall visit you at such and such a time, and Sarah will have a son. Even more to the point is what was said to Rebecca when she was pregnant by our ancestor Isaac, but before her twin children were born and before either had done good or evil. In order to stress that God’s choice is free, since it depends on the one who calls, not on human merit, Rebecca was told: the elder shall serve the younger, or as Scripture says elsewhere: I showed my love for Jacob and my hatred for Esau.” If you read all of St Paul’s letter to the Romans in chapters 9, 10 and 11, a clearer picture begins to emerge. He couldn’t be any clearer. Yet still, some protestant fundamentalists still seem to miss the obvious point. THAT is why it is so necessary for Christians to read, study about and understand the Early Church fathers. It is there that we begin to grasp who we are in God’s overall plan. Lynda, as kind as you are, you know full well that I disagree with you about Pope Benedict. He is not an antipope, as your schismatic sect believes. I hope and pray one day that you will come to a deeper understanding — but more importantly Trust the Holy Spirit and His guidance of the One Church under the Bishop of Rome; he was handed the Keys by Christ and it was he was given the Promise of succession. Afterall, OUR LORD told him that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against the Church. (although we have witnessed many attempts, as you well know) And please everyone, stop panicking about the Pope meeting with the Jewish leaders. He is not going to convert them and they are not going to convert him. This Pope is about peaceful co-existance; something that is much needed among the world religions BEFORE they can ever Hope to have a realistic dialogue. We cannot call ourselves Christians and run around refusing to talk to people who have different religious beliefs than our own! For heavens sake, how could we even attempt to Spread the Gospel. In my opinion, Pope Benedict is doing what Jesus would do — as he did with the woman at the well. He first befriended her, told her all about her life, then offered her Living Water. He did not “take into account” the fact that she was a Samaritan, or worse yet — a woman . . .even a woman of “ill repute” with her five husbands, etc… No Jesus decided he would validate her as a human being first, TALK to her, and then . . . Lo and Behold . . . OFFER her Eternal Life. Shouldn’t the Leader of the Christian World (Pope Benedict) be at least as kind as Christ was to the Samaritan woman? 11. Jack Harris April 14, 2008 @ 5:28 pm The probelm is Jews have made Americans feel guilty about the Holocuast. Even though we rescued and liberated them. We are the ones who bear most of guilt. Adolf Hitler was an Atheist. But the Jewish Lobby has somehow turned around and made it look like he was a Christian. Oddly enough now they are making Hitler out to be a Muslim. The reason Jews deny Hitler’s Atheism is because most Jews happen to be Atheists. Another prblem is the fact we allow the Christianization of Hitler without protesting one iota. When Jews try to abuse Muslims with the same rehtoric, we immediately join the Jewish side in condeming Muslims. Then when it happens to us, we sit around with our mouths open catching flies, cause by then we’ve already made a fool of ourselves and have to backpeddle. Our errors is what Jews capitalize on. Get us to agree with them, so we can’t disagree with them lest we look like hypocrites… 12. Ian Wilson April 14, 2008 @ 9:08 pm Loren, you say that “Christianity in this nation, for the most part, has not, and is not, willing to speak truth to power because Christians are not willing to lose their heads as John did, nor willing to sacrifice themselves unto the Truth, nor willing to take up their crosses, and follow the One who has called them unto purity,” and for this the Lord will spit them out of his mouth. Well, let’s all start going in that direction by using our full names. Lookit, it isn’t Christianity alone that is being spitefully treated (a horrid blasphemy); it is our culture, out traditions, our lovely land (God’s footstool), our ceremonies and our beings! In some sense we are doing this to ourselves by not standing up! (Christ was no sissy, I’ll assure you of that.) Start with using your FULL NAME everybody. All these lobbyists don’t add up to the number of people who have read this site today. It is the wizard of Oz. Yes, and you gonna die. 13. Lynda April 14, 2008 @ 10:01 pm Messages for Bloggers on Real Jew News: Krylon, when as a Catholic I say Michael Cecil is a heretic, please understand I am not going to denounce him to Homeland Security or arrange for the Masons to fit him out for an IRS audit or a ’series of unfortunate events.’
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As a Grandmother, I always assume that people know what words actually mean. And I am constantly reminded that I should never make this assumption. So at the risk of being tiresome, I will spell this out for Br Nathanael’s readers. Heretic is a civilized term for civilized discourse created by the Church and employed in discussions of Truth. To be a heretic means someone who has chosen to have a personal opinion against a doctrine of the Church. The Christian does not use anal or sexual scatology to degrade the person expressing an heretical statement and then insult his or her mother. The Christian says to the person - ‘you are a heretic’ and recognizes they are outside the Church. I mean, excuse me if Michael frequents the sacraments in a state of grace, but I think I am right in assuming that he is outside the Church. This is not good. But this is also his choice and I point this out. Br Nathanael also rightly points out that heretics who place themselves outside the Church stand under the anathemas of the Apostles. But for those who don’t know what the Church teaches and don’t care, I am sure they are not going to lose any sleep over it. This is a Christian website, the bloggers feel free to state heresies all the time. When nations that were Christian nations were ruled on the basis of faith and morals, there were penalties for being ‘out there’ with heretical statements. The heretic being ostracised from the Church was also ostracised in civil society. It would not be o.k. for example to make public statements denigrating of power of our Lord’s cross and hold public office; just as today it is not o.k. to make a public statement upholding the power of our Lord’s cross and hold public office. Heresy as a concept has passed right into the civil life of post modern societies. Just as today if you deny the scientific dogma of global warming and advance another theory of climate change - you are a heretic and find yourself ostracised from the scientific community and your research funding will be cut; if you deny the dogma of the Shoah, you are a heretic under international jurisdiction and the ICC will deal with you; if you use words like ‘natural family’ at work in the 9th Circuit, then you are denying the dogma of sodomy and its rights, thereby invoking Federal jurisdiction. You could go to jail for ‘hate crimes.’ I hope this puts my statement in perspective. 14. Lynda April 14, 2008 @ 10:28 pm Ian Wilson, R’s comment is rather creepy, isn’t it. Did it spook you? I think anyone who is offering serious comment here and reads other sites that are critical of The Chosen: their religion and agenda have also read the accounts of the Bolshevik Revolution. When the hammer fell, the Jewish Commissars of the Secret Government used the Bolshevik Revolutionaries of the Grand Orient and their recruits to round up everyone on their death list. We live under Masonic law and our society is even more thoroughly penetrated and under stricter surveillance than the Russian society. When the Revolution was unleashed, the Bolsheviks divided individuals by class - the middle and professional classes were murdered wholesale; if you had copies of the Protocols of Zion; if you had ever spoken publicly against the Jewish power and its agenda; if your Jewish neighbour didn’t like you and had reported you to their secret government, if you were in the clergy or prominent in the Church. These people were simply rounded up and shot. This is what a Communist Revolution is about. Everyone who writes here is on an Echelon data base. A young Sayanim has already been round to my place. We had a most enjoyable conversation and tea and scones on my back porch. But when the time comes, they know where to find me. While I frankly discussed these matters with him I also gave him my mobile no. Is that going to stop me blogging on the net and talking about subjects I believe need to be discussed. Of course not. God has not given to us a spirit of fear, but of love and power and sobriety. But I think anonymity is important because otherwise - in the meantime, you could get a lot of harassment from people other than the knock on the door from the death squad. 15. Harrie April 14, 2008 @ 11:15 pm Lynda, you are very well educated. What’s a Sayanim? 16. Loren April 15, 2008 @ 1:02 am Whether on the Cross, or 33 1/2 years of life prior to the Cross (with 3 1/2 of those years being of public ministry), every moment of Jesus’ life, every moment while His body drained of life while upon the Cross, and every moment He hung on the Cross after death had finally consumed Him, had and has ETERNAL significance! here in the temporal, as well as in the heavens, as well as below.
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Jesus was and is the ALL in ALL. Because so much has been focused on Jesus as the “Son of God”, few have taken into fuller consideration of Jesus as the “Son of Man”. Few have a deeper understanding of just what Jesus gave up and sacrificed … for ALL! Few realize that God had put ALL His cards on the table when He sent His Only Begotten Son into the Lion’s Den of Human Depravity. God placed ALL of Creation, ALL of His Word, and ALL of His entire Being - even His very own Son - as collateral before the arch-enemy of ALL that had been created by God, ALL that was/is of God, and ALL that is of the great “I AM”. Lucifer/Satan couldn’t wait to collect on what he believed to be his due. Eternity hung in the balance, all upon the life and decisions of Jesus. Most believe that Jesus had a prewritten script chiseled in stone, that He was impervious to failure in His mission on Earth, that He absolutely could not have failed if He had tried, that His life, death, and resurrection was a “done deal”, that He could not have sinned, for He was after all the “Son of God”. WRONG! As the “Son of Man”, Jesus was just as vulnerable, and even more so, to sin than any within the entirety of Mankind’s history - and He had EVERYTHING to lose if He had failed. Satan attacked Jesus throughout His life, and more so during critical moments, when temptation’s snare would have tripped up others - and could have with Jesus, as well. The temptations that Jesus had to endure were no different than those that all of Mankind has had to endure - satisfactions of the flesh, ego, and power (ie, the three Wilderness temptations, Matthew 4:1-11) - YET, there were those temptations that were unique unto Jesus, such as when Satan tempted Jesus to establish His Kingship on the Earth without having to go through the Cross first (the third temptation). For it was not only Jesus’ destiny to be King as the “Son of God”, but also as the “Son of Man”, as He was by earthly lineage the true legitimate heir to the throne of Israel - and not Herod! Jesus knew this, and so too most everyone else (even Herod - which is why Herod tried to kill Jesus), which is why the masses laid down palm branches before Jesus as He rode into Jerusalem - they were welcoming their true King, fully expecting Him to take the throne, and by force if necessary. Had Jesus given the word, paramilitary groups throughout Judea were at the ready to put Jesus on the throne of Israel and to kick the Romans out of the Promised Land. Had Jesus given the word - even without prayer, without consulting His Heavenly Father - by an act of His own “free will” - Jesus could have also called forth legions of angels to set Him up as King over the prophesied Heavenly Kingdom on Earth .. right then and there! But … “Not my will, but thine be done.” (Luke 22:42) At His most perilous time of temptation to forgo the Cross (at the Garden on the night that He was betrayed), Jesus humbled Himself before His Father and unto His Father’s will. Jesus knew full well what He would be giving up in the “natural” for that of the greater good - by Faith - of what His Father had called Him to do. By an act of His own free will, in Faith, and in obedience unto His Heavenly Father, Jesus purposely submitted His life, dreams, and destiny unto the will of evil men and their governments - even unto the will of His archenemy - Satan! The First Born submitted Himself unto the will of His Father, then unto the will of sinful Man, and then unto the will of the fallen First Created. Since Jesus would not “bow down” before Lucifer/Satan (third temptation), nor thereby to forsake God, nor thereby to acknowledge Lucifer/Satan as “god”, Lucifer/Satan had no other desirous choice but to slay Jesus through the words and actions of corrupted puppet men and their Satanic-controlled governments. And by mid-week, the crowds who had cheered Jesus just days before, had turned against Him and demanded His crucifixion. After having been beaten, tortured, humiliated, and sodomized, He was nailed upon the Cross to be put to death. As the “Son of Man”, by Faith did He lay down His life for ALL, that through His death, ALL who would receive Him by Faith might live. Jesus was Mankind’s ransom, and as such, the heavy weight of ALL the sins, darkness, and sheer evil of ALL Mankind (past, present, future) - even those who had tortured and crucified Him! - was placed upon Jesus. Jesus had become SIN on Mankind’s behalf. For the first time throughout Eternity, the Father had to turn away from His Son, because His Son was now SIN, and the Father could not / can not look upon sin. “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Jesus cried out from upon the Cross. For sin brings death, and death brings separation. And for the first time throughout Eternity, Jesus was separated from His Father. Lucifer/Satan and all those within his fallen realm rejoiced at the downfall of the “Son of God”. Bearing the
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sins of the world, there was no way out for the “Son of God” from His eternal imprisonment within the bowels of the Earth. In spite of His keeping of the Law, in spite of all His good works, in spite of His love for His Father, in spite of His sinless life while as the “Son of Man” on Earth, Jesus was forever doomed unto the same fate as those now mocking Him - because He was now SIN. But .. there was yet one thing that Jesus had, that He clung onto with all His might, that Satan and all who had rebelled with him eons ago had not as they had trodden it under foot as garbage - a force more powerful than all of Hell itself, more powerful than Satan and all his legions … a power that was primal and intrinsic to the very character and internal makeup of the Father Himself from time Eternal … FAITH!!! “Now faith is a well-grounded assurance of that for which we hope, and a conviction of the reality of things which we do not see. For by it the saints of old won God’s approval.” (Hebrews 11:1) “But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” (Hebrews 11:6) “having been justified by faith, we have peace with God” (Romans 5:1) “Who shall bring an accusation against God’s elect? It is God who justifies: who is he that then condemns?” (Romans 8:33-34) “And through Him, everyone who has faith is made free from all those things, from which the law of Moses was not able to make you free.” (Acts 13:39) It was Jesus’ Faith in His Father, and in His Father’s Light, Love, and Law, Mercy, Graciousness, and Forgiveness, that justified the “Son of God” before the Father God. Because of Jesus’ Faith and expression thereof, SIN no longer could maintain its hold on Jesus, nor could Hell, nor could Satan and all those fallen with him. Reflective of the Lazarus story (John 11:1-46), when Jesus “cried out with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth.”” (John 11:43), God called out, “Son, come forth”! After having been three days in the belly of the Earth, the “Son of God” was raised from the dead - having been justified by the Father through His Son’s Faith and expression thereof. “It is Christ who has died, but rather has been also raised up; who is also at the right hand of God; who also intercedes for us.” (Romans 8:34) The Cross of Christ .. Without it, there would have been no death unto self, no sacrifice, no justification by Faith, no resurrection, no life eternal. Mankind would have remained lost, without hope of redemption, condemned unto the same fate as Satan and his angels. Before the Cross lies the “old man”, beyond the Cross lies the “new creation”. Before the Cross lies condemnation; beyond the Cross lies justification. Before the Cross lies death; beyond the Cross lies Life Eternal. Before the Cross lies Egypt, beyond the Cross lies the Promised Land. The life and teachings of Jesus, without the Cross, would have been nothing more than just another religion, just another “feel good” theology of making friends and influencing people. The Cross of Christ reveals the sin and depravity of Mankind for what it is. But the Cross also reveals the justification by Faith unto Life Eternal. The Cross of Christ is the dividing line, the separation of the Light from the darkness, the Sheep from the goats. What will you do with the Cross of Christ? Won’t you take up the Cross, and follow Him who is “the Way, the Truth, and the Life” (John 14:6)? 17. Michael Cecil April 15, 2008 @ 2:47 am First of all, my sincere appreciation to the moderator of this website, that he allows the fundamental issue to be presented and even discussed here. To that extent, he is more honorable than ANY of the thousands of religious ‘authorities’ and hundreds of media officials (and who controls the media if not the secularists, the Jews and the Christians?) who I have contacted over the last 30 some years. Now to the issue that Lynda raises: The statement I have made is not “wicked”. What rankled both the Pharisees and the Sadducees about Jesus was his Teaching. (For example, “He spoke with AUTHORITY, UNLIKE the scribes and the Pharisees.”) By teaching that the “resurrection” is a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’, Jesus contradicted both the Sadducees, who denied the “resurrection” altogether, as well as the Pharisees, who interpreted it as a physical raising of a dead body from the grave. [I am talking about the DOCTRINE here, as taught by Isaiah, Daniel and Ezekiel, NOT the Resurrection of Jesus after the crucifixion.]
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Now, Paul was a Pharisee; thus, he INTERPRETED the Resurrection of Jesus as validation of the DOCTRINE of the physical raising of a dead body from the grave in direct and SPECIFIC contradiction of the Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’ that Jesus taught. Thus, it was Paul who was the original “heretic”, and who turned on the followers of Jesus, MURDERING them for teaching a different understanding of the Doctrine of “resurrection”. The “Gnostics” were then banished from among the followers of Paul (the Christians); and, some 1000 years later, tens of thousands of Albigensians were exterminated by the Roman church for teaching a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’ similar to what Jesus taught. So, back to my first statement: this civilization will more than likely COMMIT SUICIDE… Rather than acknowledge the Truth about the Doctrine of “resurrection” taught by Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Mohammed. 18. Lynda April 15, 2008 @ 5:26 am Brenda, I too believe in our Lord’s promise to Peter, Cepha - the Rock, the power of the Keys, and the Gates of hell can not prevail against the Rock. Rather, it is because I believe this, because I know the constant and ordinary Magisterium, what has always and everywhere been taught by the Church that I know with certainty that Benedict is not now, nor has he ever been, the pope. Joseph Ratzinger when he was ordained a priest would have taken the Oath Against Modernism, Sacrorum Antistitum. Fr. Ratzinger, the disciple of Arch Modernist Karl Rahner SJ and peritus of the Vatican Council II was publicly and manifestly foresworn of his Oath at that time: lauding Guadium et Spes as a ‘Counter Syllabus of Errors’- which is infallibly defined, etc. Benedict’s tragedy is that forsworn of Sacrorum Antistitum, he stands under the anathema of Pope St Pius X reserved in perpetuity to the Holy See. Use of the term ’schismatic’ means very little between the Catholics participating on this website. It might be instructive for you to learn what The Orthodox (who also have communicatio in sacris) think about ecumenism - one of the errors of Vatican II - for example. Our time is comparable to the time of the Arian Crisis in the 4th century when most of the episcopal sees were Arian and therefore alienated from the faith of the Church. The majority. The Church, very small in number, underground and persecuted worshipped outside the jurisdiction of those diosceses and did not recognize the Arian clergy - no matter how highly placed. The Arians may have had the numbers and the possession of the buildings, but the Church had the faith. So during the Arian Crisis, who were the sectarians and schismatics and who was the Church? In the long history of the Church, there have been anti-popes, there have been anti-popes seated in Rome, there have been rival claimants, there have been legitimate popes who by God’s grace have not presumed to teach the Church - being otherwise engaged in sinful and scandolous lives and there have vacancies of the Holy See. None of these historical realities have ever been regarded by the Church as invalidating the unshakable promises of our Lord made to St. Peter. The offense I take at Benedict is not socializing and talking with others of different views or faiths, but engaging in acts of worship with the Synagogue. It is not an act of charity for the anti-pope to confirm the Judaists in their errors. Please get acquainted with The Talmud, Brenda. Observance of the Talmud is not the same as the Covenants of the Books of the Law and the Prophets - what we call the Old Testament. “Judaism, the Jewish Religion as it is today traces its descent without a break through all the centuries from the Pharisees” - Universal Jewish Encyclopedia “The Talmud is, then, the written form of that which in the time of Jesus was called the Traditions of the Elders” Rabbi Michael L. Rodkinson www.come-and-hear.com/navigate.htm. Neither our Lord, nor the Blessed Virgin were ever of the Pharisaic Tradition of the Elders. 19. Loren April 15, 2008 @ 9:16 am In regards to not giving my full name on this site (regarding Ian Wilson’s post above), when I first came across this site, and read several of the articles and replies, I observed that most who replied listed only their first names. I thought of coming up with some unique name that would not identify my real name, but that would not have been consistent with the others who had revealed their true names, even that being in faith on their parts. So I did likewise, by listing my first name. I yet maintain that it is not anyone else’s business as to my full name - unless I should make it their business for whatever reason.
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No doubt, the dark powers know my full name already, as they have already initiated their designs against me, in their efforts to force me to bow unto their “beast system”, in effect, attempting to force me to renounce my Faith in the One who died in my place, thereby forfeiting my Salvation. But I will not, even unto death. And I humbly state so in Faith - as Faith in the only One who can maintain my Faith. Jesus the Christ will I only bow unto, and Him alone! Furthermore, when I present a post, I do so with humility and prayer, knowing that someone will read it and form an opinion at the least, and hopefully, a change in their life unto the fullness of Christ at the most. My desire is not to focus anyone’s attention upon my name nor upon myself, but upon the Name and the Person of the One who can save from death unto Life Eternal. If I have misquoted and/or misapplied Scripture, if I have not been as clear as what has been needed, if I need to be corrected about something, then don’t hesitate to bring such to the fore. I am still learning, too. I will take any correction, any suggestion, into prayerful consideration. This website is unique in the writings that Brother Nathanael puts forth. And also, that he has so graciously opened his writings up for review and discussion by others. But in doing so, a wide range of views are often presented by readers. Without an open discussion, however, learning cannot occur. And learning, especially of the “things of God”, does not happen in a split moment, but involves “process”, for God is a God of “process” - not knee-jerk reactions, not by shooting from the hip, not by-gosh by-golly, not let’s see if this works - but with well-planned purpose and intent and outcome. May the fullness of God’s blessings, and the revelations of Christ Jesus, be upon Brother Nathanael, as well as upon all who visit and frequent this site, and upon those who extend themselves to post their views and beliefs. Faithfully, in His service, Loren Earl Pedersen Warning to the darkness: He who contends against me, contends against God, my Father, who will then contend against you. Quit while you’re ahead, take your marbles and go home. But you won’t, for you are of your father the devil - so shall you now meet your destiny unto the Lake of Fire of eternal torment and damnation! All is now and forevermore lost unto you. Victory in Christ Jesus and in Him alone! 20. Ed April 15, 2008 @ 9:58 am Brother Nathanael and Lynda: In your view, is someone who has read, understands, internalized and believes in the philosophy of Christ while rejecting organized Christianity and baptism also a Christian? In your view, does one need to profess to believe that Jesus was literally the son of God to be a Christian? If one views Jesus as a wise philosopher–perhaps even the wisest in history–but doesn’t take as gospel everything he said, isn’t that person also a Christian, in the same way that, say, someone who has studied Hegel and believes in his formulations is a Hegelian? From your religious Christian perspective, I’m curious what you think of the idea of Jesus-as-philosopher? These aren’t rhetorical questions; I get the sense, based on your remarks to MC and krylon, that you would consider it heretical according to religious Christian doctrine. 21. admin April 15, 2008 @ 10:50 am Dear Ed, The Holy Scriptures teach that Jesus Christ is the Eternal Son of God Who became man for our salvation. Through Christ’s incarnation, His teachings, His example, His death, His Resurrection, mankind is saved. This salvation is appropriated to us through baptism whereby we die and rise with Christ and receive the New Birth and become part of His Body, the Church. As a former Jew, I am most honored to be able to say, “I am one in Christ through baptism with all my brother and sisters from every nation, we who are named “Christians.” +Br Nathanael 22. Lynda April 15, 2008 @ 2:18 pm Michael Cecil To deny that there is “any ‘power’ in the cross of Jesus” is and remains an heretical statement on this Christian website belonging to a Brother of the Greek Orthodox Old Kalendar Church - “powered by love and conern” for the souls of the readers. Full statement: “And any ‘power’ Jesus had was not in his cross but in his TEACHING.” And you continue to make statements that are 1.against the TEACHING and explicit words of Jesus in sacred scripture as testified by the Apostles against the teaching of the Apostles against the doctrine of the Church.
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These statements collectively are heretical, Michael. And the Church regards heretical statements as wicked because they corrupt the truth and deceive the soul. Yes, Michael, I regard you as a heretic. Buttering up Br Nathanael so you can post on his website does not alter what you have written. Now I see that you are a Gnostic. Please read St Irenaeus of Lyon. St Irenaeus was a Celt, obviously had attended one of the many Bardic colleges in Eire or Gaul before his conversion. He understands Gnosticism better than you ever will. He decisively refuted Gnostic versions of Christianity for all time. 23. Michael Korn April 15, 2008 @ 2:30 pm the jews are the bankers for the catholic church! they control all that hard earned christians mammon! so long as christians allow usury to operate the jews will control the church… 24. Lynda April 15, 2008 @ 3:20 pm Hi Jack Harris, I think the American Goyim are required to do more than just feel guilty about the Holocaust - starting in grade school. In March 2007, Congressman Robert Wexler introduced the Holocaust Insurance Reparation Act. Despite America’s war effort in WW II and many 10s of thousands of lives expended to halt the Axis powers, Congressman Wexler thinks America should pay Holocaust survivors 800 billion dollars. I seriously doubt that this piece of iniquity will make it into the mainstream media until it is already signed, sealed and delivered. 25. Lynda April 15, 2008 @ 3:23 pm Hi Harrie, Skunk has a good presentation on the Sayanim network on his website. http://judicial-inc.biz/Sayanim.htm. It’s an eye opener to say the least. The extent of private espionage and surveillance in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave has only started to be revealed. Hope this can help. 26. Lynda April 15, 2008 @ 4:58 pm Hi Ed, I have always thought it intriguing that the surrounding society does not call the disciples ‘Christians’ until the Apostolic seat of Jerusalem sends Barnabus to Saul at Antioch. Saul, the rabbi and convert, is now the apostolic delegate of the Church. And when St. Peter comes there he will establish his first Chair at Antioch a feast “The Chair of Peter at Antioch” which is still commemorated today in the Catholic Church. Not to be confused with the novus ordo church presently in occupation of the historic Catholic structures. For the record: “And Barabas went to Tarsus to seek Saul: whom, when he had found, he brought to Antioch. And when they conversed there in the church a whole year: and they taught a great multitude, so that at Antioch the disciples were first named Christians.” Acts 11:25-26. From the historical account i
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