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By Marian Tortorella 2009

There has been so much confusion and controversey among astronomers and scientists as
to the nature and validity of their not so distant cousin and ancient metaphysical science
Astrology. It is my quest as a star-observing Astrologer to simply explaine the astrological
system as astrologers use it today, but first Id like to reveal some of the known, yet
unrecognizable and historical facts hiding behind this mystifing subject of Astrology.
Many Astronomers and Scientists today are confused with the differences between the
Astrologers Planetary Ephemeris (table of planetary positions) and Astronomers own
palnetary positions and observations. This has been a source of conflict between Modern
Astronomical Scientists and Astrologers.
Throughout history some very important scientific discoveries were made with Astrology as
a foundation. It was Isaac Newtons spellbinding interest in the Astrological Influences
which inspired him to deeper levels of scientific awareness. Through his interest in
Astrology, the door to Newtons theory of Light and Gravity was opened. It has taken some
300 years for Newton to receive any serious scientific recognition for his interest in the
Astrological Planetary Influences, and their effect.
Tycho Brahe, a teacher of Kepler, introduced the first astronomical observatory to the
western world. The sole purpose of Brahes observatory was to expand his Astrological
interests. He was able to complete the first star map since early Greek times consisting of
777 stars with his observatory.
With Tychos planetary calculations and figures, Kepler gained the information he needed
for his world famous discovery, the Three Laws of Motion. There were many other
scientists and mathematicians who were also Astronomers and Astrological observers.
Ptolemy, Aristotle, Copernicus, and Galileo were all known to be aware of the planetary
influences and their effect on living organisms.
By the time Newton began studying mathematics, Astrology and Astronomy were split. At
the moment I am not going to explaine or describe the astrological influences on human
behavior, but would like to explaine the difference between the Astrological system of the
Zodiac as Astrologers use it today and how they do not exactly fit in with Astronomical
Constellations of the Heavens which Astronomers go by. Our modern Astrological system
is based on the movement and motion of the Earth in relation to Sun on its Ecliptical path.
It has nothing at all to do with the Constellations from an Astronomical perspective. Are we
confused yet? Hold on.
If you were to observe from the Earth, the suns path, travelling from North to South with
its yearly revolution, you are creating an imaginary circle known to Astrologers as the

Ecliptic. This circle gives you the image of the suns orbit to the earth. It is from an
Ecliptical point of view that the planetary calculations are based in the Astrological
Ephemeris, the most important tool to an astrologer.
As the Earth rotates daily and tilts toward and away from the sun during the course of a
year, the Cellestial Equator and Plane of the Ecliptic are formed where the signs of the
Zodiac will find their home. (See Diagram below) Each sign will consist of 30 degrees. The
12 signs each 30 degrees, create a circle of 360 degrees, making up the 12 signs of the
At the moment of the Vernal Equinox, on or about March 30 th the Ecliptic intersects with
the Cellestial Equator, the imaginary extention of the Terrestial Equator. This is to be the
start of the Spring season and the sun has just entered the Zodiac sign of Aries at 0 degrees
from an astrological standpoint, not astronomical. Now appearing to move North on its
Ecliptic through Aries, Taurus and Gemini, while Earth spins daily and tilts foward, the
sun completes its first 90 degree cycle. Right around the 21 st of June, the Summer solstice
occurs and the beginning of a new 90 degree cycle begins. This will be the suns highest
position in the sky corresponding to the start of the Zodiac sign of Cancer. The sun at this
point along the Plane of the Ecliptic has intersected with the Tropic of Cancer as seen from
a globe. (See Diagram)
At the Summer Solstice, the Sun moves south another 90 degrees along the Ecliptic,
through Cancer, Leo and Virgo until the Plane of the Ecliptic intersects with the Terrestial
Equator. This is the point of the Autum Equinox, the beginning of the fall season and Sun
astrologically the Suns position is at 0 degrees Libra. Once again as the sun moves further
south along the Ecliptic Path, another 90 degrees, it passes through the Zodiac Signs of
Libra, Scorpio and Sagittarius.
Upon reaching its lowest point, on or about December 22 nd, the sun has now entered the
zodiac sign of Capricorn. If we were to look from another perspective, (see diagram) the
sun would appear to be in conjunction with the Tropic of Capricorn. This is the start of
winter at the solstice. The sun from an astrological perspective will be at 0 degrees of
Capricorn and begins to move North as it goes through the Zodiac signs of Capricorn,
Aquarius and Pisces completing its 360 journey along the Plane of the Ecliptic and then
intersects with the Terrestial Equator at the Vernal Equinox which is 0 degrees Aries and
the start of Spring.
These 4 points, which correspond to the start of each season, are called the 4 Cardinal
Ingresses. Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn are the 4 Cardinal signs of the Zodiac.
Perhaps this divine order and cycle of the Suns path in relation to the Earths tilt, to and
fro, from Tropic of Cancer to Tropic of Capricorn can help to better explaine how our
Astrological Zodiac System takes shape and the differences in the Astronomical
Constellations as astronomers view them as well as the positions of the planets in each of
the signs.

Some things we are unable to see with the naked eye, like a magnetic field. Does this mean
it does not exist? As with any science, one must devote years of study and practice, with
Trial and Error as a means of discovering any truth.

stronomical Foundations of the Astrological

by Christopher A. Weidner
Copyright for text and illustrations belongs to Ch. Weidner
In order to understand the origins of the different house systems and the problems connected
with them, it is helpful to discuss a few terms of celestial mechanics which are important from an
astrological perspective for the construction of the respective systems.


The horizon system

The great circles in the horizon system
The horizon in the horoscope
The meridian in the horoscope
The four cardinal points in the house system
The definition of the intermediate houses
The celestial equator
The diurnal arcs

The horizon system

The horizon is the most important reference level in astrology when it comes to the houses
because it forms the platform on which we experience ourselves as observers of all phenomena.
The horizon divides the celestial sphere - at the centre of which the observer is located - into a
visible hemisphere above and an invisible hemisphere below.
From an astronomical point of view, the matter is not that simple: astronomers differentiate
between the

true horizon and the

apparent horizon

The apparent horizon exactly corresponds to the horizon which we perceive when we talk about
the 'horizon'. We could also say: the plane of the apparent horizon is on the same level as the
eyes of the observer.
The plane of the true horizon, however, is on the level of the geocentre. Again, we could say:
When we consider the true horizon, we act as if the observer was standing at the geocentre. For
calculation purposes, astrology uses the true horizon.

The difference between these two planes in reference to very distant celestial bodies is extremely
small and therefore basically negligible.
The horizon is the plane the observer perceives when looking at celestial phenomena. We
distinguish six reference points which give us orientation on this plane:

East, South, West and North - give us orientation on the horizontal plane, and
Zenith and Nadir - give us orientation on the vertical line.

Illustration 2: The horizon system with its three great circles.

The great circles in the horizon system

These points can be connected to form the so-called "great circles". They are circles in the
celestial sphere whose centres align with the centre of the celestial sphere itself. Three of these
great circles are especially important in astrology, because they make up the framework of the
celestial sphere from the viewpoint of the observer (cf. illustration 2).

The horizon itself is one of the great circles: it connects the East, South, West and North
points, and thus defines the horizontal axis (Ascendant and Descendant) of the horoscope.

The meridian is the great circle which is drawn around the celestial sphere from the North
point via Zenith, South point and Nadir. It divides the celestial sphere into an Eastern and
a Western hemisphere, and forms the foundation of the meridian axis in the horoscope,
i.e. Medium Coeli and Imum Coeli.
The vertical great circle results from the connection of East point, Zenith, West point and
Nadir. It is not usually represented in the horoscope, but is used to calculate some house
systems. Sometimes the East point is shown in the horoscope as "Anti-Vertex" and the
West point as "Vertex".

This framework of three great circles completely describes the position of the observer in
relation to all directions. But astrology does not show the positions of the planets in direct
reference to the great circles but as projections onto the ecliptic, the apparent orbit of the Sun
around the Earth, better known as Zodiac with its twelve Zodiac sections or signs.
The ecliptic is another great circle in the celestial sphere, which - depending on the position of
the observer on the Earth - has a different "obliquity" in relation to the horizontal plane, and
which intersects the three great circles of the horizon system. These intersections are especially
important in astrology because they consitute the cardinal points of the house system:

The intersections of the ecliptic and the horizon constitute the Ascendant and Descendant.
The intersections of the ecliptic and the meridian make up the Medium Coeli und Imum

The intersections of the ecliptic and the vertical great circle constitute two other points which are
sometimes seen in the horoscope: Vertex, the West point, and Anti-Vertex, the East point.
Especially the Vertex is often considered a sensitive point which is supposed to be related to
relationships and partner issues. Generally, this point is - maybe wrongly - neglected in

The horizon in the horoscope

In the horoscope the horizon is represented by the Ascendant/Descendant axis. The horizontal
line divides the celestial sphere, in the centre of which we experience ourselves, into a visible
and an invisible area. We can observe this fact in the horoscope: all celestial bodies below the
Ascendant/Descendant axis (1st and 2nd quadrant) were not visible at the time of birth, and all
bodies above this axis (3rd and 4th quadrant) were visible (cf. illustration 3).

Illustration 3: The quadrants of the horoscope between the four cardinal points of the house

The meridian in the horoscope

The meridian is represented in the horoscope by the axis of Imum Coeli and Medium Coeli
(Midheaven) and divides the horoscope wheel into an Eastern (1st and 4th quadrant) and a
Western hemisphere (2nd and 3rd quadrant). All celestial bodies in the Eastern hemisphere are
ascending, and all celestial bodies in the Western hemisphere are descending (cf. illustration 3).
The culmination is marked by the Medium Coeli - the Midheaven: this is where, for example, the
Sun is at midday. This point is also called upper or midday culmination because it is above the
horizon. The opposite point is symbolised by the Imum Coeli - the Nadir, the lowest point in the
horoscope: this is where the Sun is at midnight. Since this point is below the horizon, it is also
called lower or midnight culmination.

The four cardinal points in the house system

As mentioned before, the Ascendant and Descendant, Medium Coeli and Imum Coeli constitute
the four cardinal points of all house systems in the horoscope. These are generally undisputed
when calculating the houses. There are merely systems which do not use one of the axes, for
example, the ecliptical system which starts from the Ascendant and neglects the meridian axis.

However, generally we can say that these four points are defined in the same way in each house
system, whether they are used or not: they are intersection points between the great circles of the
horizon and the meridian with the ecliptic.

The definition of the intermediate houses

The task is now to divide the space between the four intersection points into three parts. This is
best done in a way that makes sense astrologically.
We could simply divide the distance between the cardinal points in the horoscope, e.g. between
Ascendant and Midheaven, into three equal parts. This was suggested by Porphyrius. But this
method does not bear any relation to the visible sky, it is simply a mathematical operation.
Consequently, we need to find an organising level which is manifest in the sky.
The ecliptical systems, for example, use the ecliptic as an organising level for the house division,
others use the vertical great circle. But in order to define the intermediate houses, astrologers
have also used other reference levels. The two most important ones, beside the great circles
discussed above, are:

the celestial equator and

the diurnal arcs of the celestial bodies.

The celestial equator

Illustration 4: Celestial equator and ecliptic.

This is another important great circle in the celestial sphere and corresponds to the projection of
the Earth's equator onto the sky. The intersections between the celestial equator and the ecliptic
mark two particularly important astrological points: 0 Aries and 0 Libra. They mark the
beginning of the respective zodiac sign and at the same time signify the beginning of spring and
autumn. The Aries point has a special meaning: it marks the beginning of the astrological zodiac
and therefore of the astrological year. The Sun reaches this point at the time of the vernal
equinox (around 21st March): day and night have exactly the same duration, and from now on,
the days are getting longer than the nights - the victory of light over darkness (Translator's note:
in the Northern hemisphere! - In the Southern hemisphere, the days are now getting shorter).
Directly opposite the Aries point, we reach the autumnal equinox - the Sun enters the sign of
Libra around 23rd September (cf. illustration 4).
Two other points are also marked by special positions of the Sun: the points of Cancer and
Capricorn. The Cancer point marks the position in the zodiac, at which the Sun reaches its
highest possible position above the horizon in the course of a year: The summer solistice (around
21st June). This is the longest day and the shortest night in the year (Translator's note: in the
Northern hemisphere - the shortest day and longest night in the Southern hemisphere). From now
on, the Sun turns to move downward again, because the arc it describes in the sky between dawn
and dusk every day becomes smaller and smaller, until it reaches its lowest point at 0 Capricorn,
the winter solistice (around 22nd December). From there, it turns to move upwards again.
In relation to the celestial equator, this means that the Aries and Libra points constitute the
intersection points of this great circle with the ecliptic, whereas the Cancer and Capricorn points
are the points with the greatest distance between ecliptic and celestial equator. This distance is
also called 'decliniation', which leads to the statement that at the time of the two solistices, the
Sun has the greatest declination from the celestial equator. The maximum distance between
ecliptic and celestial equator is fix at around 23.5 and is called "ecliptical obliquity".
We could also say that the celestial equator marks four stations on the ecliptic of the Sun's annual
orbit around the Earth.
One example for practical use of the celestial equator for the construction of a house system is
Regiomontanus used this great circle by dividing it into twelve equal parts. First of all, he had to
project the four fixed cardinal points onto the celestial equator, so that their representations on
the great circle would result in four commensurate quadrants: the Ascendant was consequently
represented by the East point which marks an intersection between horizon and celestial equator,
and the Midheaven was represented by the intersection of the celestial equator and the upper
meridian (i.e. that part of the meridian which is located above the horizon).
These divisions were then divided into three so that there were twelve equal divisions on the
celestial equator. These had to be projected onto the ecliptic to make them astrologically visible.
For this purpose, Regiomontaus connected the division points of the twelve sections on the
celestial equator with the celestial North and South points of the celestial horizon (which is a

great circle parallel to the apparent local horizon). In this manner, he created twelve additional
great circle arcs which all originate in the North and South points of the celestial horizon and
intersect the celestial equator. (This is illustrated by the image of an orange with its slices).
Finally, each of these twelve arcs intersects the ecliptic at some point - and these twelve ecliptic
points make up the house cusps of the horoscope according to Regiomontanus.

The Diurnal Arcs

The diurnal arcs are another important means for constructing house systems, mainly those
which emphasise the time factor, like for example Placidus' system.
Diurnal arcs are those semi-circles which are described by a celestial body moving above the
horizon from its ascending point in the East to its descending point in the West. Each point in the
sky marks such a diurnal arc. The arc resulting from the movement of the descending point to the
next ascending point is called nocturnal arc. Put together, diurnal and nocturnal arcs result in a
full circle.
In astrology, only those points are important which are projected onto the ecliptic, usually the
planets, Sun and Moon. Astrologically speaking, these are always located on some point of the
ecliptic - and this ecliptical point also has a diurnal or nocturnal arc. This means that all points on
the ecliptic ascend and descend at some stage.

Illustration 5: The construction of houses according to Placidus based on diurnal arcs.

Placidus used these arcs to construct his house system by saying that a particular point on the
ecliptic which has covered half the distance above the horizon has reached the midday (upper)

culmination, which is, astrologically speaking, exactly at the point of the Midheaven. This means
that this point on the ecliptic corresponds to the Midheaven as one of the four cardinal points.
And the point on the ecliptic which begins its diurnal arc in the East, corresponds to the
Ascendant. In order to define the intermediate houses, he concluded that the point which has
covered one sixth of its daily path from East to West, corresponds to the cusp of the twelfth
house, and the point on the ecliptic which has covered two sixths marks the cusp of the eleventh
house, etc. (cf. illustration 5).
If this system is complemented by the nocturnal arcs, the house system according to Placidus is
deduced from the daily movement of the ecliptic reflected by the diurnal arcs.
By Christopher A. Weidner
Copyright for text and pictures by Ch. Weidner

Translated from German by Karin Hoffman

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The changes on Feb 5, 2005, attributed to were due to Pdn, who thought he was
logged in, but that was in a different window. sorry
The Wikisource ephemerides are empty - does anybody know where the data is? Autarch

astronomical tables distinct from ephemeris

The articles does currently not differentiate between astronomical tables, like Tabulae
Rudolphinae, and an actually computed ephemeris.

An Ephemeris is an actual list of daily (or other regular interval) positions of a celestial body.
Astronomical tables are something different, they contain tabular data out of which positions of a
celestial body can be computed, by a more or less simple procedure orf multiple steps (looking
up numbers, adding, mulitplying, interpolating) but they do not yet contain the actual positions.- (talk) 04:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I would like verification of the claim, "The majority of astrologers study tropical astrology"
Warrensson (talk) 13:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Separate astronomy from astrology?

I would really like to see these separated into two articles. Opinions? Pro: much easier to
elaborate on both subjects. Astronomers mostly think of astrology as a pseudo-science,
Astrologers have little use for astronomer's ephemerides, as they calculate a completely different
way. Con: ephemeris is the same word, with essentially the same meaning, for each of the two
Tfr000 (talk) 22:29, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
This would also allow to stop using the words "scientific" and "astrological" every time the word
"ephemeris" appears. No one in the astronomical community uses a term like "scientific
ephemeris". Tfr000 (talk) 22:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
MocuAed (talk) 05:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC) says: Re: separating Astronomy from Astrology: I
agree with your approach because I am of the same opinion. At the same time I am under the
impression that this particular article was intended as a "comparison" or as a "parallel" of
astronomic and astrologic ephemerides, so maybe there is a place for it as such? If the historical
perspective be enhanced and the content organized, it might become of some value. This is just a
suggestion. Which, if applied, would rise the question: since it is a parallel look at ephemerides
in astronomy and astrology, would it be reasonable to coin them "astronomic ephemerides" and
"astrologic ephemerides" for this purpose? MocuAed (talk) 05:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Agree. I'll just move the astrology stuff to ephemeris (astrology) and keep the unqualified name
for ephemeris in its scientific sense, as in a encyclopedia, science has priority over
obscurantism . Bomazi (talk) 17:55, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
I see someone deleted the astrology content. Hopefully, they moved it someplace appropriate
before doing so. There's nothing wrong about non-scientific content, it simply isn't a good idea to
blend the two together in one article - confusing. An encyclopedia, being encylopedic, should
cover both. Tfr000 (talk) 14:09, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Someone simply deleted the astrology stuff (diff) and it looks as if it was never put
anywhere else. I think this improved the present article but it seems a pity the information
was not put in Ephemeris (astrology) (if indeed there is such a thing). I know nothing
about astrology and so can't sort it out. Thincat (talk) 12:21, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
I'd be inclined to keep both kinds of ephemeris in the same article. The calculation of the
positions of interest only to astrologers is, as far as I know, carried out in a neutral
manner, in much the same way as it would be computed by astronomers. The

pseudoscience comes in how the astrological ephemerides are used. Some of the data
which the removed material claims is not present in astronomical ephemerides is only
absent from paper astronomical ephemerides. In electronic ephemerides such as the
Multiyear Computer Interactive Almanac some of the so-called astrological data is
present, such as geocentric ecliptic latitude and longitude of planets.
People interested in astronomy who don't understand how to use some of the
sophisticated electronic ephemerides and don't have the skills to transform positions in
printed ephemerides to the coordinate system they are interested in might like to know
about astrological ephemerides, since they might happen to have the data they are
interested in without having to do any tricky transformations.
I know very little about astrology, but maybe astrologers would want to be exposed to the
data available in astronomical ephemerides too; maybe they would have some use for the
data that isn't usually provided in astrological ephemerides. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:55, 7
November 2013 (UTC)
I'd have thought if an astrologer wanted to know where some celestial body actually was
in the sky by using an astronomical ephemeris, they could do so and read up a bit about it
here and not be bogged down with all sorts of baggage. But I thought (and I expect I'm
wrong) astrologers didn't give a toss about what was where in the sky. When they say the
sun is in Aries its really in the constellation of Pisces (generally). Astrological sign hints
at this: "Precession results in Western astrology's zodiacal divisions not corresponding in
the current era to the constellations that carry similar names". Thincat (talk) 17:31, 7
November 2013 (UTC)
The popular western astrologers (who would be writing the horoscopes published in
American newspapers, for instance) do keep track of the actual locations of the planets.
They use the same ecliptic coordinate system that astronomers do, they just use different
nomenclature for the coordinates. So an ecliptic longitude between 0 and 30 would be
called Aries, between 30 and 60 would be called Taurus, etc. I believe astronomers used
to use this nomenclature a few hundred years ago. An abbreviated version of this
nomenclature can be found in Nautical Almanac and Astronomical Ephemeris for the
year 1767; numbers are used instead of names for the signs, but otherwise the
nomenclature is the same as used by astrologers. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:58, 7 November 2013
When I moved to a new job in Aberdeen, people would talk about the "blue buses". Since
I had never seen a blue bus I plucked up courage to ask what they were. This caused great
amusement because the blue buses were painted yellow and green. The livery had been
changed years and years earlier but everyone still referred to them as "blue". Thincat
(talk) 10:15, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Latin pronunciation (ephmeris vs phmrs)

Since my change was reverted, there seems to be a need for discussion.
Firstly, about the factual content. Since the original Greek / has a (long) in
that position (a short e would be ), it would be very surprising if the Latin had a short e (denoted
) in this place. Vowel lenght was felt much more important in ancient Latin and Greek than in
modern English, so this would not normally have changed easily.

Secondly, the citations. I don't have access to the source given (American Heritage Dictionary of
the English Language), but I have a different paper source supporting what I wrote
(Langenscheidts Handwrterbuch LateinischDeutsch). Also the English Wiktionary entry gives
a macron in this position, and while it isn't itself a valid source and also doesn't give one, it's
French sister entry (which also gives a long IPA pronunciation) does give an online source.
Perhaps the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language was referring to English
pronunciation or simply made a mistake. --SpecMade (talk) 21:08, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
I suggest we just remove the disputed Latin; it doesn't add much to the Greek anyway. (I
will go ahead with that if there are no objections.) --SpecMade (talk) 22:48, 22 October
2013 (UTC)
I have no problem with removing the Latin, since the Greek origin is probably more
interesting. I do have the American Heritage Dictionary and just read the notes about
how the etymologies were done; they did intend to provide their opinion of how the late
Latin was pronounced. Maybe they got it wrong; I'm no expert on Latin. Jc3s5h (talk)
23:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
I do agree that you rightly reverted my edit, since it contradicted the source that had
already been given, and I thank you for your vigilance. I have now changed it to be a bit
more vague (and less controversial) and added another reference. There are simply more
references to find for Classical Latin than for Late Latin, but if the only difference is the
vowel lenght (which got less strict by Late Latin anyway), we are probably best off not to
make any claim about that detail and not specify a particular stage of Latin. --SpecMade
(talk) 01:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Astrologija - pogled iz ugla nauke

Milan Milosevi

Svima je dobro poznato ta je to astrologija, ta je to horoskop. Ali, da li ste se ikada zapitali

kako je nastala astrologija, kako se razvijala i to je najvanije ta o astrologiji kae nauka.
Od osvita civilizacije ljudi su se eleli da saznaju ta donosi sutranji dan, ta donosi budunost.
Stari narodi su posmatrali svet oko sebe, uoavali i beleili promene prirode i pokuavali da
predvide prirodu i utvrde neke zakonitosti. Primetili su da posle dana uvek dolazi no, zatim opet
dan, pa opet no. Tokom noi primetili su da na nebu postoje sjajne bele tae. Ove take
izgledale su kao da su rasporeene sluajno, ali paljivim posmatranjem utvrdili su da se njihov
raspored ne menja. Polako, ljudi su poeli da preslikavaju svoje mitove i istoriju na nebo.
Nalazili su oblike u rasporedu ovih zvezda i davali im imena. Tako su nastala sazvea. Proteklo
je mnogo vedrih noi posmatranja dok ljudi nisu primetili da se sazvea periodino smenjuju, a

sa promenom sazvea na nonom nebu smenjivali su se i uslovi na zemlji, smenjivala su se

godinja doba.
Ljudi su primetili da postoji i 5 belih takica koje su kvarile priu. One su stalno lutale, nije ih
dralo mesto, nikako nisu htele da se smire u jednom sazveu. Grci ih nazvae planete.
Bez mnogo znanja, u vreme kada su jedino mogli da posmatraju i razmiljaju ljudi su olako
povezali pojave na nebu sa deavanjima u njihovim ivotima. U gotovo svim narodima
utemeljilo se verovanje da su planete i zvezde simboli bogova ili drugih natprirodnih sila koje
kontroliu njihove ivote. Za ove njih posmatranje neba nije bila zabava, nije bila neka
apstraktna nauka, za njih je to bio ivot. Smatrali su da im zvezde govore o tome kako e iveti
sutra, prekosutra ili naredne godine. U ovom periodu, periodu pre nastanka nauke, sve je
pripisivano volji bogova. Svakodnevni dogaaji, bolesti, prirodne nepogode, pojavljivanja
kometa ili pomraenja... sve su to bili simboli kojima su bogovi najavljivali, upozoravali i pretili.
Kao to to u ivotu najee biva, glavni krivac postane onaj ko je najupadljiviji. Tako je i ovde
bilo, a niko nije uoljiviji od Sunca, Meseca i pet golim okom vidljivih planeta. Gotovo da nema
civilizacije u kojoj planete, Mesec i Sunce nisu nosili imena bogova. Kretanje ovih tela redovno
je praeno i beleeno, njihov poloaj i raspored povezivan je sa dogaajima u ivotu pojedinaca,
porodica, gradova i drava. Bio je ovo poetak astrologije.
Smatra se da je astrologija nastala pre oko tri hiljade godina, u Vavilonu. Oni su verovali da
planete i njihovo kretanje jaaju mo kraljeva i nacije, i koristili su znanja iz astrologije da bi
svojim kraljevima pomagali u vladanju i tumaili im budue dogaaje. Kada su Stari Grci
pokorili Vavilonsko carstvo, preuzeli su i astroloke ideje, a zatim se astroloki nain
razmiljanja rairio na zapad.
Do II veka pre nove ere smatralo se da planete igraju ulogu samo u odreivanju sudbine vladara i
drave, ali tada su Stari Grci poeli da veruju da planete odreuju sudbinu svakog pojedinca. U
stvari, oni su verovali da raspored Sunca, Meseca i pet planeta u trenutku roenja osobe odreuje
njegovu linost i njegovu sudbinu. Ova doktrina naziva se prirodna astrologija. Prirodna
astrologija dostigla je svoj vrhunac u doba Ptolomeja, oko 400 godina kasnije. Poznat kako po
svojim astronomskim tako i po astrolokim uenjima Ptolomej je objavio Tetrabiblos, delo koje
je obuhvatalo etiri knjige u kojima je dao osnovne astroloke principe. Ovo delo postalo je
"biblija" astrologije, koju koriste i dananji astrolozi.
Osnova prirodne astrologije je horoskop, grafikon koji pokazuje raspored planeta u trenutku
neijeg roenja. Da bi se horoskop napravio treba pronai poloaj planeta, Sunca i Meseca u
sazveima zodijaka. Za potrebe astrologije zodijak je podeljen na 12 jednakih delova. Svaki od
ovih delova je deo kruga od 30 stepeni. Svaki znak zodijaka dobio je naziv po dominantnom
sazveu kroz koje prolaze Sunce, Mesec i planete.
Kada danas govorimo o horoskopskom znaku pod tim podrazumevamo sazvee u kome se
nalazilo Sunce u trenutku roenja. Ali, prolo je vie od 2000 godina od kada su znakovi

zodijaka dobili imena i od kada je odreeno od kog do kog dana "traje" odreen znak. Zbog
precesije Zemlje sazvea zodijaka se pomeraju ka zapadu du ekliptike, i naprave pun krug za
26.000 godina. Zbog toga se, od vremena kada je horoskop prvi put napravljen, zodijak pomerio
za oko 1/12 punog kruga, odnosno tano za jedan znak. Bez obzira na ovu promenu astrolozi i
dalje koriste horoskop kakav je napravljen pre 2000 godina. Ovo znaci da astroloki znakovi nisu
saglasni sa onim sto se u stvarnosti deava na nebu.
Kau astrolozi - horoskop nije toliko jednostavan. Kompletan horoskop mora da sadri i raspored
planeta i Meseca u sazveima zodijaka. Astrolozi smatraju da je svaki znak, svaka kua, svaka
planeta centar sile koji deluje na pojedinca i upravlja njegovim ivotom.
Detaljno tumaenje horoskopa je vrlo komplikovan posao. Tokom istorije nastao je veliki broj
astrolokih kola i razliitih naina tumaenja horoskopa. Neka pravila su standardizovana ali
mnogo toga zasniva se na subjektivnom miljenju tumaa i umetnosti, kako astrolozi to vole
da kau.
Videli smo kako je i kada nastala astrologija, ali ona postoji i danas. Ljudska civilizacija
napredovala je mnogo, u svakom pogledu, od vremena kada su prvi astrolozi hodali ovom
planetom. Nauka je objasnila mnoge stvari, odgovorila na mnoga pitanja, pokazala da su mnoga
verovanja drevnih naroda neosnovana i pogrena, ali astrologija je ostala skoro ista onakva kakva
je bila pre oko 2000 godina. Astrologija je ostala u vremenu pre Kopernika, u vremenu kada je
Zemlja bila centar sveta, u vremenu kada je Sunce kruilo oko Zemlje.
Danas, kada toliko toga znamo o kretanju zvezda i planeta, o njihovim fizikom i hemijskom
osobinama, o hemiji, biologiji, medicini i genetici, o silama koje upravljaju makro- i mikrosvetom, teko je prihvatiti ideje o tome da poloaj planeta u trenutku naeg roenja ima neki
uticaj na na ivot.
Ako ih pitate kako planete utiu na nas, astrolozi ili ne znaju da odgovore, ili izbegavaju odgovor
ili daju neko tumaenje koje pokazuje totalno nepoznavanje astronomije, fizike i nauke uopte.
Oni najee kau da planeta na nas deluju nekom silom, ali koja je to sila? Nauka poznaje etiri
sile. To su slaba, jaka, elektromagnetna i gravitaciona. Prve dve, ak i ako naete astrologa koji
zna neto o njima, sigurno nisu odgovor jer one deluju samo na malim rastojanjima, manjim od
dimenzija atoma. Elektromagnetna - moda, ali da bi ova sila postojala mora da postoji
naelektrisanje, a toga nema. Ostaje jedino gravitaciona. Ova sila je dobar kandidat. Deluje na
velikim rastojanjima, deluje uvek i svuda, ne postoji nita to ne pada pod uticaj gravitacije. Ona
deluje izmeu svih planeta i svih tela, tako da sve planete, Mesec i Sunce na nas deluju svojim
gravitacionim poljem. Izgleda da je ovo upravo ono u ta nas ubeuju astrolozi, ali postoji jedan
mali problem intenzitet te sile je mnogo mali. Ako bi, na primer, gravitacija bila Marsa bila
glavni krivac za nau sudbinu onda moramo uzeti u obzir i gravitaciju doktora koji je imao 100
kg i prisustvovao naem roenju jer njegova gravitacija je oko 10 puta jaa nego gravitacija
Marsa! Hm, izgleda da ovako slaba sila ne moe da ima ba nikakav uticaj na nas (koliko se
seam naa sudbina ne zavisi od toga dali je doktor imao 80 ili 150 kilograma).
Neki astrolozi ovde poinju da izmiljaju nove sile, poznate samo njima, sile bez ikakvih dokaza,
bez ikakvog naunog osnova. Sile iji je jedini razlog postojanja neki zbunjeni astrolog. Ovo

izmiljanje novih sila i efekata znai potpuno naputanje naunih principa, to je odlazak u neki
drugi svet, svet dogmi, svet koji je postojao pre par hiljada godina.
Da bi izbegli poznate probleme koji se javljaju kod gravitacije, astrolozi tvrde da sila kojom
planete deluju na ljude i odreuju njihovu sudbinu ne zavisi od mase i rastojanja. Ako
pretpostavimo da je to tvrenje tano javlja se nov problem. Savremena astrologija i horoskop
ukljuuju Sunce, Mesec i 8 poznatih planeta (zaboravimo injenicu da Pluton vie nije planeta).
Ovo nisu jedina tela u Sunevom sistemu, tu ima jo mnogo drugih, slinih tela. Desetine satelita
i hiljade asteroida i kometa luta meuplanetarnim prostorom. Sateliti i asteroidi su skoro
identinog sastava kao i planete. Zato astrolozi njih ne ukljue u horoskop? Ako tvrde da masa
nije bitna onda i ova tela imaju na nas isti uticaj kao i planete. I ne samo to - do danas je
otkriveno vie od 200 vansolarnih planeta. Oni kau da sila ne zavisi od rastojanja to znai da i
ove planete moraju da postoje u horoskopu. Svima je poznato da asteroida i vansolarnih planeta
nema u horoskopu pa prema tome ak i da pretpostavimo da sila o kojoj astrolozi pogovore
postoji - horoskop nije taan ni prema zakonima koje su sami postavili.
Koliko god se astrolozi pozivali na astronomiju i fiziku, koliko god pokuavali da daju
objanjenja koja e se uklopiti i okvire savremene fizike oni to ne mogu da urade. Astronomija
(fizika) i astrologija ne idu zajedno, ali njima to nije vano, kau - menjajte fiziku.
Dobro, hajde da zaboravimo to to astrolozi ne priznaju astronomiju i fiziku. Ne mora svako da
voli fiziku i priznaje njene zakone. Moda neka jabuka odlui da ostane da lebdi u vazduhu, ili
da padne na gore, umesto na Zemlju, kako nas fizika ui. Ali, astrolozi ne priznaju ni hemiju,
ni biologiju. Ve je reeno da nas astrolozi ue da sudbinu odreuje poloaj planeta u trenutku
roenja. Biologija nas ui da sam in roenja nema veliki znaaj u tome kakav e ivot voditi
pojedinac. Procesi formiranja bia odavno su zavrili i jedinka je spremna da ue u surovi svet.
Nauka kae da uopte nije vano da li se rodite par sati ranije ili kasnije, a astrologija ona nam
kae da od tih par sati moe zavisiti da li e osoba biti serijski ubica ili budui dobitnik Nobelove
Ovakvo tumaenje astrologije imalo je opravdanja u vremenu kada je ona nastala, u vremenu
kada se nita nije znalo o dogaajima koji prethode roenju, u vremenu kada je roenje bilo
trenutak magije, ali danas takvo tvrenje je manje-vie smeno za svakoga ko ozbiljno prihvata
bioloke zakone i naune principe.
Biologija, hemija, fizika za sve njih astrologija kae da su pogrene, da ne valjaju. Ostala je jo
jedna fundamentalna nauka matematika. Ovde su astrolozi morali malo da popuste, ak ni tako
mona astrologija ne moe bez matematike. Odbacili bi astrolozi i matematiku ali moraju da
raunaju, tako da matematika ostaje bar za sad. Ipak, teko je nai astrologa koji do kraja
ostaje veran matematici.
Matematika nas ui da svi dogaaji moraju da se pokoravaju nekoj verovatnoi, nekoj raspodeli,
nekoj statistici. to je uzorak vei, imate vie ispitanika, statistika je sve tanija. Ako probate da
primenite tu statistiku, tj. matematiku, kao poslednji nain da proverite ono to astrolozi priaju,
oni e na sva zvona objaviti da matematika nije tana. Pogaate, statistika im uopte ne ide u

prilog. Svaki pokuaj da se astroloke prognoze provere na nekom uzorku, tj. grupi ljudi, zavrio
je neuspehom.
Velika etvorka matematika, fizika, hemija, biologija, stradala je pred astrolozima. Za sve
njih astrolozi kau da gree, jedino oni su u pravu. Moda treba pomenuti i neto to nije nauka,
treba pomenuti i religiju. Teko da moete da naete pravog vernika koji priznaje astrologiju. Sa
jedne strane religija, koja smatra da je Bog odgovoran za sudbine ljudi, a sad ruge strane
savremena astrologija ne daje nikakav znaaj Bogu. On je moda tu, moda nije, ali u svakom
sluaju nije vaan. Setimo se samog poetka astrologije planete su bile boanstva. Dolaskom
hrianstva, kao religije u kojoj postoji samo jedan Bog, stvari su se mnogo promenile. Astrolozi
su svrstani u istu grupu kao i jeretici i imali su velikih problema sa inkvizicijom.
Astrologija ne voli nauku ni religiju (a ni ove ne vole astrologiju) ali ponekad se astrolozi ipak
pozivaju, najee pogreno, na neke zakone nauke. Logino je zapitati se ta je to to je
astrologiji omoguilo da ostane do dananjih dana, do poetka XXI veka.
Astrologija danas nauni ili drutveni problem
Lako je razumeti razloge nastanka astrologije, lako je shvatiti potrebu primitivnog oveka da
veruje u znake koje upuuje priroda, da veruje u sudbinu, ali prolo je vie hiljada godina a neki
jo uvek veruju u iste stvari kako i najprimitivnije civilizacije ljudi.
Astrologija je globalni a ne lokalni fenomen, problem. Sreom, malo je drava savremenog sveta
koje su se prema astrologiji ponaale ili ponaaju kao naa u poslednjoj deceniji XX veka, a
slina praksa nastavlja se i na poetku XXI veka.
Astrologija je svuda oko nas. Koje god novine da otvorite, koju god televiziju da pogledate, neko
prorie sudbinu, pravi horoskope, gleda u kristalne kugle i tome slino. Ako spadate u onu, na
alost, malobrojnu grupu ljudi koji znaju bar malo o istoriji astrologije i njenim ciljevima teko
je ne zapitati se zato se ovakvo ponaanje medija tolerie. Razlog za ovo sigurno ne leu i
naunim injenicama, videli smo da astrologija ne priznaje matematiku, fiziku, hemiju, biologiju,
nije ni verski pravoslavlje i astrologija ne idu zajedno. Razlog je vrlo jednostavan - nae
drutvo zaraeno je astrolokim virusom. Ljudi oboavaju sve to je okultno, mo racionalnog
razmiljanja i rasuivanja veine ljudi nije na mnogo viem nivou od stanovnika Vavilona,
drevnog Egipta i Grke, i nekih jo starijih naroda. Beanje od realnosti u neki izmiljeni svet,
beanje od racionalnog i potraga za istinom u iracionalnom, osnovna je karakteristika drutava
na niem stepenu razvoja. To je odraz straha od istine, odraz neznanja, nedostatak hrabrosti, elje
ili mogunosti za upoznavanjem ili razumevanjem neeg novog, na izgled tajanstvenog. Ljudi
vie vole lepe i razumljive prie, prie ispriane jezikom naroda a astrologija im daje upravo to.
Logino je zapitati se zato je astrologija, taj virus neznanja, zahvatio poznate novine i asopise i
vodee televizije. Odgovor je vrlo jednostavan a krije se u strukturi publike. Broj inteligentnih,
uenih ljudi, koji znaju i koji mogu da se suprotstave ovoj astrolokoj imperiji vrlo je mali, oni
su gotovo neprimetni u moru sujevernih pristalica ove drevne magije. Ljudi koji vode nae
medije dobro znaju da ogromna veina italaca/gledalaca spada u grupu sujevernih i slabo
obrazovanih i onda mediji nude ono to publika eli, na taj nain poveavaju gledanost i tira, a
sa tim raste i zarada. Interesovanje ljudi za astrologijom moda najbolje pokazuje injenica da je
najtraenija re u 2006. godini na domaem internetu (posle rei oglasi) re horoskop . Na

drugoj strani su malobrojni protivnici, ali njihov broj je toliko mali tako mediji nemaju ta da
izgube a dobijaju (zarauju) mnogo.
Kao lag na tortu dolazi jedna alosna injenica gotovo da nema astronoma koga nekada nisu
nazvali astrologom i pitali ga za pravljenje horoskopa. Reakcije su razliite, ali zajedniko je to
da se svako ko astronomiju shvata ozbiljnu, kao nauku osea uvreeno! Nazvati astonoma
astrologom isto je kao hemiaru rei da je alhemiar ili rei pravniku da je inkvizitor (i uputiti ga
na literaturu o spaljivanju vetica i isterivanju avola). Hteli to ljudi da priznaju ili ne, astrologiji
je mesto tamo gde je zavrila alhemija i inkvizicija.
Mada, udno je to to je astrologija ostala, a alhemija zaboravljena jer realno gledano alhemija je
dala osnovu moderne hemije, a moe se rei i moderne nauke. Mnogo pre Galileja (koji se
smatra ovekom koji je uveo eksperiment u nauku) alhemiari su mukali i eksperimentisali.
Gotovo je nemogue pronai trenutak kada se nauka, hemija, izdvojila iz alhemije. Pria sa
astrologijom je drugaija. Ako izuzmemo period najstarijih naroda, granica izmeu astrologije i
astronomije (tj. nauke uopte) uvek je bila jasna i otra. Ako je astrologija slina alhemiji,
inkviziciji i ostalim starim vetinama udno je to to je ona ostala dok su ove druge nestale. Na
samom poetku astrologija i astronomija bile su jedno, ali vrlo brzo definisana je jasna granica.
Situacija sa alhemijom i inkvizicijom bila je neto drugaija. Razvoj alhemije tekao je postepeno
i ona se vremenom pretopila u hemiju i druge nauke. Slino se desilo i sa inkvizicijom, ona je
prestala da postoji a na njenim ruevinama formirao se dananji pravni sistem.
Mogue je da je ba ta jasna i dobro definisana granica izmeu astrologije, sa jedne, i
astronomije, tj, nauke uopte, sa druge strane ono emu astrologija treba da zahvali na
popularnosti koju danas ima. Nauka nas ui da ivimo u nepredvidljivom svetu, u svetu gde se ne
zna ta donosi sledea godina, sledei dan, ak ni sledea sekunda. Jezik nauke je komplikovan,
potrebno je mnogo napora, uenja i znanja da bi razumeli ta nauka kae. Astrologija je
drugaija, ona govori o tome kako je sve ve odreeno, kako e sve biti dobro, sve ima srean
kraj. Astrolozi uvek govore o lepoj budunosti i uspenom reavanju problema (osim ako ne
naljutite nekog astrologa). Jezik astrologije je jezik obinog oveka, jednostavan i naizgled
razumljiv svima, ali za razliku od jednoznanog jezika nauke, jezik astrologije je dvosmislen.
U nauci uvek postoji jedna, i samo jedna, istina a u astrologiji svaki iskaz moe da se tumai na
razliite naine. Astrolozi nikad ne kau kad i gde e se neto dogoditi, ve samo kau da e se
dogoditi. Ako se dogodi danas, sutra, za mesec dana astrolog postaje slavan, ako se ne desi nema veze, ima vremena dogodie se ili jednostavno bie zaboravljeno.
Ovakav pristup astrologiji obezbeuje veliki broj pristalica. Pseudonauni, iracionalni, mistini i
drugi slini pogledi na svet uvek nalaze vei broj pristalica meu obinim ljudima, meu ljudima
koji ne mogu ili ne ele da ostvare intelektualni napor neophodan za razumevanje naune istine.
Koliko god se astronomi, naunici i zakonodavci trudili da zaustave irenje astrolokog virusa i
spree prevaru i pljaku lakovernih ljudi, astrologiji je teko stati na put. Ona e uvek nalaziti
najvie pristalica meu ljudima sa najvie problema, meu siromanima koji se nadaju boljem
sutra, meu bolesnima koji se nadaju brzom ozdravljenju, kod neobrazovanih i sujevernih, i kod
svih onih koji nisu sposobni da razumeju, onih koji su na istom nivou razvoja kao nekadanji
stanovnici najprimitivnijih oblika ljudske civilizacije.

Nekada davno, oko 500. godine pre nove ere Heraklit iz Efesa rekao je Magarci e pre izabrati
slamu nego zlato i stvarno, teko je magarcu objasniti vrednost zlata, koliko je teko saznati gde
je zlato, nauiti kako da zlato iskopate, kako da zlato upotrebite. Koliko god zlata da date
magarcu on ga nee ni pogledati, njemu nee znaiti nita, on e traiti svoju slamu. Magarac se
nikada, koliko se god vi trudili, nee razumeti vrednost zlata, nikada nee znati da za mali
grumen zlata moe da dobije dovoljno slame za ceo ivot. Ali ne treba mu zameriti, on je samo
1. Astrology,
2. dr Milan irkovi, Astrologija kao filozofija lenjosti, Astronomija br. 14.

The Difference Between Signs and Constellations

And Why Both are Important
by Cayelin K Castell

And we now have a New YouTube mini-teaching on this issue

with great visuals that explains this even more!

Signs and constellations are not the same thing. The confusion occurs because a time long ago
when people forgot they were different they named the constellations and the signs the same
names. However, they are not the same as the signs describe the seasons or months of the year
and are measured from the Solstice and Equinox points. The zodiacal constellations are the back
drop the signs or seasons move through and are found along the ecliptic or the path the planets
track through the sky. The signs, or seasons of the year are slowly moving through all the
constellations, precessing one degree every 72 years. Approximately every 26,000 years every
sign will move through every constellation along the ecliptic. It is this movement of the signs, or
seasons, through the constellations that is the mechanism of how myth and symbol change over
The star patterns of the constellations have different meanings to different cultures at different
times. This corresponds to the opening line of the Emerald Tablets of Hermes that in its simplest
form says As Above, So Below. For example, the constellation astronomers currently call
Aries, (a.k.a. the Ram), was known as the hireling or Indentured Servant prior to the shift of the

Spring Equinox (or the zero Aries point) into that constellation about 4,000 years ago. The shift
of the Spring Equinox moving into the constellation of the Ram coincided with the shift in how
that constellation was viewed. Several mythic stories reflect this shift. One such story is of the
Cretan Bull Dancers and the slaying of the Minotaur by Theseus. This story symbolized the
death of the Age of the Bull (when the zero Aries point or Spring Equinox was rising in that
constellation) and the coming of the age of the Ram (a.k.a Aries) when the Spring Equinox (or
zero Aries point) moved into the constellation of the Ram about 4,000 years ago. Similarly the
story of Jesus, also known as the lamb of God, was sacrificed on the cross symbolically giving
birth to the current age of the fish, coinciding with the movement of the Spring Equinox into the
constellation of the Fish, (also known as the age of Pisces), about 2000 years ago.
It is easy to see why there is such confusion about the difference between the signs and
constellations because they were named the same names at a time when the people forgot they
were different. This has given rise to the misunderstanding that occurs between tropical and
sidereal astrologers and who has the correct system or the system that really works. From the
Shamanic Astrology perspective it is not Either Or but rather both systems are part of our
evolutionary process. The polarization between tropical and sidereal creates further separation
where as understanding that both the tropical or seasonal signs and the sidereal or constellations
interact and when we understand that interaction greater wholeness is possible.
One way to remember the difference between signs and constellations is to think of the
constellations as constant, they are the back drop the signs (or seasons) are moving through. The
signs are seasonal. They represent a seasonal energy that is determined by our experience of the
Sun at different times of the year. This experience also depends on where we are located on the
planet. Near the equator the seasonal shifts are hardly noticeable. The further north or south you
go the more extreme the seasonal shifts are. The four cardinal points zero Capricorn, zero Aries,
zero Cancer and zero Libra mark the Solstice and Equinox points when we experience the
seasonal shifts depending on where we are on the planet. For example, zero Capricorn, marks the
Winter Solstice point north of the Equator and the Summer Solstice point south of the Equator.
Zero Aries marks the Spring Equinox north of the equator, and the Autumnal Equinox south of
the equator.

The Solstice and Equinox points are defined by

the relationship of the Celestial Equator (the equator of the Earth expanded into space) and the
Ecliptic (the path the planets travel). The equinoxes are formed by the intersection points of these
two circles and the Solstices are where the two circles are farthest apart. These are the four
cardinal points in space that define our yearly cycle. Our current system uses the Spring Equinox

or Zero Aries to begin the division of the circle into 12 segments or 12 signs of 30 degrees each
covering the 360 degrees of the circle.
It is helpful to remember that the seasonal points are moving through the constellations. Again
the confusion occurs because there was a time when the precessional cycle was forgotten and the
signs and constellations were named the same names. The reality is they never have been the
same. That is why in Shamanic Astrology we do not call the constellations by the sign names but
rather what they depict. In otherwords, we call the constellation known as Capricorn, the Goat
Fish. Aquarius is the Waterbearer, Pisces is the Fish, Aries is the Ram, Taurus is the Bull, Gemini
is the Twins, Cancer is the Crab, Leo is the Lion, Virgo is the Virgin Priestess, Libra is the
Scales, Scorpio is the Scorpion, and Sagittarius is the Archer. This is designed to help us
remember that the constellations are different from the seasonal signs.

The Shamanic Astrology Logo Depicts the current Turning of the Ages showing where the
seasonal signs (Winter Solstice etc) are currently located in relationship to the constellations. For
example, the zero Capricorn point marks the Winter Solstice where the Sun currently rises and
sets between the constellation of the Archer and the Scorpion. 6500 years ago the Winter Solstice
Sun was rising between the Fish and the Waterbearer and has been slowly moving one degree
every 72 years to its current position between the Archer and the Scorpion. In 6500 years from
now the Winter Solstice Sun will be rising and setting between the Virgin Priestess and the Lion.
Over a 26,000 year period all the signs will move through all the zodiacal constellations. As each
sign moves through each constellation, the sign and the constellation create a natural synthesis of
their individual mysteries that automatically expresses in the Great Below or in our Earth based
reality. We have seen evidence of this because different ages have different myths and symbols
that define them, i.e. the bull, the ram, the fish, and so on. These ages are marked by the
movement of the Spring Equinox of zero Aries into those constellations.

Another type of example that does not use the cardinal points might be helpful. Currently the
sign or season of Sagittarius (or 30 days before the Winter Solstice) is overlaying the
constellation of the Scorpion. The heart of the Scorpion is marked by a bright red star known as
Antares. This star is currently located at about 10 degrees of the sign Sagittarius, and the Sun
passes by here around the 2nd of December every year. 13,000 years ago the Sun would have
been passing by the fixed star Aldebaran in the exact opposite part of the sky on December 2nd.
Aldebaran is currently located at about 10 degrees Gemini where the early June Sun is now
rising. 13,000 years ago the early December Sun rose near Aldebaran and the early June Sun rose
near Antares exactly opposite of what is happening now. This means the seasons are in the
opposite constellations of what they were 13,000 years ago.
So really saying this again helps us to remember that the signs are seasonally based and the
zodiacal constellations are the star patterns found along the ecliptic. These are entirely two
separate mechanisms that are different but that do interact with each other. Part of our collective
remembering now is around the significance and meaning of the movement of the signs through
the zodiacal constellations.
The challenge is to let go of our deeply programmed way of thinking that Taurus is the Bull,
when in fact much of the Bull is now occupied by the sign or season of Gemini. And the
constellation of the Twins is occupied by the sign or season of Cancer and even a couple of
degrees of Leo. At the season of Summer Solstice, the Sun (at zero Cancer) is rising on the
boundary between the constellation of the Bull and the Twins.
This is further illustrated by the fact that currently the Winter Solstice or the Zero Capricorn
point is on the boundary between the Archer and the Scorpion near Galactic Center. This means
the sign of Capricorn has almost entirely left the constellation of the Goatfish. The constellation
of the Scales (a.k.a. Libra) is now mostly occupied by the sign of Scorpio. In fact, one of the
brightest fixed stars in this constellation, the fixed star Zuben Algenubi, is currently marking 15
Scorpio. This is the zodiacal degree of the mid-way point or cross-quarter point between the
Autumnal Equinox and Winter Solstice, meaning that the Sun is currently rising near Zuben
Algenubi at the Samhain astrological cross-quarter on Nov 7 each year. Remember the
precession occurs at the rate of one degree every 72 years so the Sun rises within one degree
either side of this star at the November cross-quarter for 144 years. We are well into that 144
window now.
Understanding the difference between signs and constellations helps to give us a greater
understanding of what time it is in the big cosmic picture so we can participate with greater
conscious awareness. This is especially important now at this great turning of the wheel of time
Shamanic Astrology refers to as the Turning Of The Ages. Therefore, as we remember more of
these mysteries we are actively engaging a more current and conscious relationship with the Sky
as it relates to the Earth. Again this approach recognizes the importance of both the constellations
and the signs and how working with both is helping to restore balance between the Great Above
and the Great Below as each magnificently reflects the other.
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Astroloki sistemi (Tropski i Sideralni) Igor Pavlukovic

U Astrologiji postoji vie glavnih sistema pomou kojih se analizira neiji horoskop. Dva
najpoznatija su Tropski i Sideralni astroloki sistem. Tropski sistem je zasnovan na smeni
godinjih doba. U Tropskom sistemu je nulti stepen znaka Ovna taka poetka prolea. U
trenutku prolene ravnodnevice svake godine, Sunce ulazi na nulti stepen tropskog znaka Ovna.
Zapadni astroloki sistem, onaj koji se u veoj meri koristi na naim prostorima, kao i u Evropi i
Severnoj Americi, je zapravo Tropski astroloki sistem.

Sideralni sistem je zasnovan na poloajima stvarnih sazvea na nebu i koristi se veinom u

istonim zemljama, najvie u Indiji. To je ono to esto unosi zabunu kod osoba koje poznaju
astronomiju, a nemaju nikakvo znanje iz astrologije. Zapravo, radi se o tome da postoji razlika
izmeu pojma "Astroloki znak" po Tropskom sistemu i sazvea koje vidimo na nonom nebu.
Zabunu unosi i to to znaci i sazvea nose ista imena.

Zemlja obie Sunce za 365 dana, 5 sati, 48 minuta i 46 sekundi. Gledano sa Zemlje nama deluje
da je Sunce u istom razdoblju jednom obilo ekliptiku. To je tropska godina. No ako na kraju
tropske godine pogledamo poloaj Zemlje u odnosu na zvezde nekretnice (posmatra se zvezda
nekretnica Spika) proraunom se dobija da se Zemlja nalazi 50,26 sekundi nebeske longitude
zapadno od prvobitnog poloaja. Da bi se Zemlja vratila na isti poloaj prema zvezdama
nekretnicama potrebno je 365 dana, 6 sati, 9 minuta i 9,5 sekundi. To je sideralna godina. Ona je
20 minuta dua od tropske godine; vremenska razlika odgovara 50,26 sekundi nebeske longitude.
Zbog toga e se prolena ravnodnevica (mesto gde ekliptika preseca nebeski ekvator) svake
godine kretati prema zodijaku 50,26 sekundi unatrag. To stalno zaostajanje prolene
ravnodnevice naziva se precesijom ekvinocija. Da bi precesija napravila jedan krug treba joj
otprilike 26 000 godina. Prolee svake kalendarske godine poinje prolenom ravnodnevnicom i
nultim stepenom znaka Ovna, ali kako se prolena taka pomera kroz sazvea, trenutna razlika
izmeu tropskog i sidrealnog astrolokog sistema, tj. izmeu 0 stepena znaka Ovna i 0 stepena
sazvea Ovna trenutno iznosi 24 stepena. Prema tome, kada se Sunce nalazi, na primer, na 20tom stepenu znaka Vodolije (u Tropskom sistemu), ono se u odnosu na sazvea nalazi na 26tom stepenu sazvea Jarca.

Dodatnu konfuziju u razlikovanju znakova horoskopa u tropskoj astrologiji i sazvea na nebu

unosi i injenica da se stvarna sazvea svojom veliinom ne uklapaju u krug horoskopa koji
predstavlja sideralnu astrologiju. Kada posmatramo tropski i sideralni krug zvani horoskop,
uoavamo da znaci u jednom i sazvea u drugom sistemu zauzimaju po 30 stepeni u krugu za
svaki. Ali realna sazvea nisu jednake veliine i ne zauzimaju svaka po 30 stepeni u krugu. Na
primer, najvee je sazvee Device koje zauzima 43 stepena, a najmanje je sazvee korpiona
koje obuhvata svega 6 stepeni. Gledajui i astronomski, videete da ekliptika see samo jedan
deo tih sazvea. Zbog precesije se poloaji sazvea u odnosu na posmatraa sa zemlje menjaju
kroz vekove, pa na ekliptici, putu koje Sunce prividno prelazi tokom godinu dana gledano sa
Zemlje, sada imamo 13 sazvea. Izmeu korpiona i Strelca deo ekliptike zauzima sazvee
Zmijonoe. To je jedan od najjaih aduta osoba neupuenih u astrologiju kada pokuavaju da
dokau neosnovanost i netanost iste. Oni izjednaavaju sazvea sa znacima u horoskopu, ne
shvatajui da izmeu ta dva pojma postoji velika razlika.

Da biste razumeli u emu je razlika izmeu sazvea i znaka u horoskopu, potrebno je da

zamislite horoskop kao jedan veliki asovnik koji okruuje zemlju na ekliptici (zamiljenoj
prividnoj putanji Sunca oko Zemlje u periodu od godinu dana). Kako Zemlja rotira oko svoje ose
i pun krug napravi za 24 sata, tako se i ovaj krug zvani horoskop - to u prevodu znai "onaj koji
pokazuje vreme", kree. Ako zauzmemo poloaj na jednoj taki na otvorenom polju gde moemo
jasno videti horizont i projektujemo horoskop na horizont, videemo kako se na istoku otprilike
svaka etiri minuta podie po jedan stepen od ukupno 360 koliko ih imamo u punom krugu. Ovo
nije teko zamisliti jer su i asovnici pravljeni po modelu kruga. Kada 360 stepeni kruga
podelimo na 12 dobiemo po 12 jednakih celina koje zauzimaju svaka po 30 stepeni u krugu.
Tropski horoskop koji koristi zapadna astrologija ukazuje na smenu godinjih doba i deli godinu
na 12 meseci, to je sasvim u skladu sa zvaninim merenjem vremena. Kada dnevno kretanje
Sunca projektujemo na krug od 360 stepeni, primetiemo da e proseno kretanje Sunca po
krugu iznositi 59 lunih minuta. Zbog toga to se sve u Univerzumu kree po elipsama, a ne po
savrenoj krunici, Sunce nee svakog dana prelaziti tano 59 lunih minuta ali e svakako za
godinu dana da se vrati na onaj stepen i minut odakle smo zapoeli da merimo njegovo prividno
kretanje unutar horoskopa. U tropskom astrolokom sistemu horoskop zapoinjemo od trenutka
prolene ravnodnevice. Po zvaninom kalendaru to je izmeu 20. i 23. marta tekue kalendarske
godine. Po tropskoj astrologiji Sunce se u tom trenutku nae na poetku znaka Ovna i poetak
prolea je uvek i poetak znaka Ovna i novog godinjeg ciklusa. Suncu je potrebno u proseku
oko 91 dana i 6 asova da bi dolo u odreeni poloaj u odnosu na zemlju kada zapoinje novo
godinje doba. U krugu horoskopa Sunce za to vreme pree 90 stepeni. Prema tome, Sunce u
jednom mesecu po zvaninom kalendaru pree 30 stepeni u krugu horoskopa. Zbog toga su znaci
u tropskom horoskopu identini mesecima u godini. Zbog toga bi bilo ispravnije kada bismo
znake tropskog horoskopa nazivali mesecima, pa bi onda prvi mesec u tropskoj godini bio mesec
Ovna ili prvi mesec prolea. Drugi mesec prolea zvao bi se mesec Bika, itd. Tako dobijamo da
leto poinje uvek znakom Raka ili mesecom Raka, jesen poinje znakom ili mesecom Vage, a
zima poinje mesecom ili znakom Jarca. Po zvaninom kalendaru, merenje meseca u godini se
razlikuje od merenja meseci po tropskom horoskopu, zbog toga to se u zvaninom kalendaru
uzima za poetak nove godine period kada je Zemlja najblia Suncu u svojoj orbiti, a to je 1.
januar, mada u dananje vreme taj datum pada realno izmeu 2. i 5. januara. Pomou ovde
izloenih podataka moete razumeti da je tropski horoskop sistem koji nema nikakve direktne
veze sa sazveima, ve opisuje period od godinu dana i 12 meseci u godini. Tropski horoskop je
krunica na koju projektujemo poloaje Sunca, Meseca i planeta sunevog sistema u odnosu na
vreme (datum, sat i minut) i mesto posmatranja.

Sideralni horoskop je takoe krunica podeljena na 12 jednakih delova i isto tako prati godinje
kretanje Sunca projektovano na nju. Sunce i u jednom i u drugom sluaju prelazi isto proseno
dnevno rastojanje. Razlika je u tome to je sideralni horoskop projektovan u odnosu na
Zodijaka sazvea na ekliptici i prati godinje kretanje Sunca po sazveima. Sideralni
horoskop predstavlja krunicu na koju projektujemo poloaje Sunca, Meseca i planeta u odnosu
na sazvea u kojima se nalaze u datom trenutku.

Neizbeno je pitanje koje e veina vas koji ovo itate postaviti, a ono glasi: "Koji je od ova dva
sistema taan?" ili "Koji sistem je taniji ili ispravniji?". Odgovor je da su oba sistema
podjednako tana i ispravna. Razlika je u tome ta hoemo da posmatramo. Tropski sistem se
bavi promenama u prirodi tokom godine na koje svi reagujemo na svoj nain. Planeta u znaku e
svoju simboliku ispoljavati kroz kvalitet perioda u godini koji tropski znak opisuje. Na primer,
tropski znak korpiona je drugi mesec godinjeg doba jeseni kada se temeratura sputa, esto
pada kia, duvaju otri i hladni vetrovi, a dani postaju osetno krai i hladniji. Kada se u tom

znaku nalazi neka planeta, na primer Merkur, dobiemo opis naina razmiljanja osobe koja ovaj
poloaj Merkura ima u svom horoskopu roenja, tj. u natalnom horoskopu, u skladu sa
kvalitetom koji u sebi ima ovaj znak, tj. ovaj period u godini. Tako emo izvui zakljuak da ova
osoba razmilja otro i hladno na osnovu toga to u ovom mesecu duvaju otri i hladni vetrovi.
Zato to su noi due u odnosu na dane, ova osoba e vei deo svojih misli i planova zadravati u
sebi nego to e ih iznositi drugima kroz komunikaciju. Zbog toga to u ovom mesecu esto pada
kia i oblano je, ova osoba e biti potaknuta na razmiljanje kroz pranjenje svojih emocija, a
njene misli e veinom biti teke, poput oblanog i kinog vremena. Kako e ova osoba da
komunicira, to je jo jedna od simbolike Merkura? Poput vremena u ovom mesecu,
komunicirae hladno i otro, veinom subjektivno i ponesena potrebom da nagomilane emocije
isprazni kroz rei, poput vode kondenzovane u jesenjim oblacima. Kad uzmemo u obzir da u
jesenjem mesecu korpiona esto imamo nalete hladnog vetra uz kiu, pa ak i susneicu, onda
vam je jasno da kada razgovarate sa ovom osobom u trenutku kada je emotivno uznemirena,
imaete utisak kao da vas je odjednom zadesilo nevreme u novembru. Simbolika koju
posmatramo kroz sistem tropskog horoskopa opisuje kako pojedinac reaguje na dogaaje koji
mu se deavaju i pomae nam da poblie opiemo psiholoki profil pojedinca.
Sideralni horoskop se odnosi na posmatranje kretanja planeta kroz sazvea. Ovaj sistem nije
povezan sa godinjim dobima, pa stoga ne opisuje kvalitet vremenskih prilika u periodima u
godini koju opisuje tropski znak. Kako je povezan sa sazveima, sideralni sistem opisuje
kvalitet energije koju u sebi nosi mitoloka pozadina na osnovu koje je svako od Zodijakih
sazvea dobilo svoje ime. Sazvee je grupa zvezda ko zajedno obrazuju neki imaginaran lik
kad se meusobno spoje zamiljenim linijama. Njihova imena potiu uglavnom iz grke
mitologije. Takoe je vano znati da svetlost sa zvezda mi ne vidimo u realnom vremenu. Nama
najblia zvezda je udaljena oko 4 svetlosne godine, pa je vidimo onakvom kakva je bila pre 4
godine. Mnoge zvezde su udaljene i nekoliko stotina, pa i hiljada svetlosnih godina od nas. Zbog
toga je simbolika sazvea uvek povezana sa prolou. Naa prolost je zapisana u naim
genima, jer nas oni odreuju. Ne odreuju samo na fiziki izgled, nego i nau ivotnu stazu,
kao i ono za ta smo predodreeni i to ne moemo da izbegnemo, jer emo se tokom svog
ivota susretati sa odreenim okolnostima. Mitoloka pria na osnovu koje je sazvee dobilo
ime nosi u sebi simboliku onoga na ta emo neizbeno naii u ivotu u vidu okolnosti. To je ono
to su nai preci prouzrokovali svojim delovanjem, a sa ime mi moramo da se suoimo. Mi ne
moemo da se nalazimo na drugoj ivotnoj stazi osim one koju su nai preci tokom vekova
stvorili. Kako e se onda u sideralnom horoskopu ispoljiti simbolika Merkura u sazveu
korpiona? Mitoloka pria glasi da je boginja lova Artemida bila uvreena izjavom najboljeg
ivog lovca, Oriona, kako mu nema ravnog i kako je sposoban da ubije sve ivotinje na zemlji.
Zbog njegove neobuzdane i nekontrolisane naravi u lovu, ona je poslala korpiona da ga ubode i
ubije. Borba izmeu Oriona i korpiona je bila vrlo estoka i ruilaka, nakon ega ih je vrhovni
bog Zevs postavio na nebo kako bi podseali ljude kako krajnja destrukcija nikome nije
doputena i da su duni da obuzdavaju svoje strasti. Sve mitoloke prie imaju vie verzija. Tako
jedna od vezija mita o korpionu govori o tome kako je boginja zore Eos, koja je budila erotske
udnje kod ljudi, prihvatila Oriona kao svog ljubavnika, zbog ega ga je Artemida ubila zbog
ljubomore. Kada simboliku Merkura u vidu komunikacije i intelekta uklopimo u mit o
korpionu, dobiemo da e se ovu osobu zadesiti veliki nesporazumi u nekom odnosu koji e
prouzrokovati estoke svae. Svae mogu da budu izazvane neijom ljubomorom. Rei

izgovorene ishitreno ili u besu mogu ovu osobu da dovedu u ivotnu opasnost. to se
intelektualnog potencijala tie, osobe sa Merkurom u sazveu korpiona nose u sebi znanje o
ivotu i smrti, pa su predodreene da se bave neim to u sebi nosi simboliku smrti, ubistva i
destrukcije. To moe biti istraivanje uzroka neije smrti u domenu medicine, poznavanje vetine
hirurgije, jer se Merkur odnosi i na vetinu koju osoba ima u rukama, ali s druge strane ova
osoba moe biti laka u povlaenju oroza na obarau vaternog oruja, a moe i da se bavi
kriminogenim radnjama, pa da esto dolazi u kontakt sa kriminalcima. To su okolnosti u koje e
ova osoba neminovno dolaziti. Ovo nam ukazuje kako kroz Sideralni sistem moemo da
opiemo koji dogaaji se deavaju pojedincu bez obzira na njegove reakcije i psiholoki
profil. Sideralni sistem nam ukazuje na ono to je predodreeno i to je neminovno da se
U zavisnosti od onoga to hoemo da analiziramo i na koja pitanja hoemo da dobijemo
odgovore, koristiemo jedan ili drugi sistem. Najvea je greka poistoveivati ove sisteme.
Upravo zbog toga to osobe neupuene u astroloke sisteme poistoveuju znake horoskopa sa
sazveima na ekliptici dolazi do proglaavanja astrologije za besmislicu. Jo vei problem
predstavlja injenica da se mnoge osobe izdaju za astrologe, a ne poznaju ovu razliku, pa zbog
toga prave velike greke pri analizi neijeg horoskopa.

Podela astrolokih sistema na tropski i sideralni i metode kojima ovi sistemi koriste prilikom
analize, dokazuju kako je lako raditi prognostiku i predviati ta donosi budue vreme. Kako
poznajemo kakav je kvalitet odreenog perioda u godini - na primer, da u drugom mesecu
prolea imamo maksimalno cvetanje vegetacije i mnogo polena u vazduhu, blage i toplije
vetrove, due dane nego noi i toplije vreme, uz povremene krae kie - na osnovu toga emo
moi da predvidimo kako e odreena osoba reagovati kada se njen Merkur nae u znaku Bika,
na koji nain e razmiljati i koliko e to biti u skladu sa njenim osnovnim nainom razmiljanja.
Isto tako, ako poznajemo mitologiju po kojoj je sazvee Bika dobilo ime, moi emo da
predvidimo kakve e okolnosti na polju komunikacije zadesiti osobu kada se njen Merkur nae u
sazveu Bika. Prema tome, kada astrolog hoe da sazna kako e osoba kojoj analizira horoskop

reagovati na ono to joj se dogaa, kako e da razmilja i kako e emotivno da doivljava

odreene situacije u ivotu u odreenom vremenu, konsultovae tropski horoskop, tj.
horoskop godinjih doba. Kada hoe da sazna kakve e okolnosti zadesiti osobu u nekom
periodu u ivotu, konsultovae sideralni horoskop, tj. horoskop sazvea.