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TG, Recorder, relief valve. once like pressure and witness by inspector
they close these valve and there will be no pressure drop after wards.
August 15 at 8:45am Edited Unlike 6
Hafeez Ahmed By the time you reach 80 percent they will close prv so
that there will be no pressure drop
August 16 at 7:31am Like
Suresh Babu 1.Most of the cases there is one comment in the drawings
" Service Gaskets shall be used for hydro test". But the manufacturer
may use some other Gaskets according to the availability. So Gaskets
need to be verified against the approved drawings and confirm prior to
the torquing of all flanges. Same thing for bolts and nut material also 2.
Most of the specifications states that "Horizontal vessels shall be tested
while resting on their permanent support saddles without additional
supports or cribbing'' (Refer 32-SAMSS-004). But the manufacturer will
place an additional temporary saddle between the fixed and sliding
saddles for the sake of more safety (??) and fill the water. This is
completely un acceptable. if we found this scenario after placing the
temporary saddle and water filling, we can not remove the said
temporary saddle. All the water shall be drained without testing, then
remove the temporary saddle, then fill the water again. i will put some
more malpractices on the subject later.
August 17 at 10:15pm Unlike 3
Tariq Faridi Mr. Saquib Khan ,we need to check the PZV ( pressure
relief valve and Pressure gauge ) are calibarted and check the report
where its calibarted and who claiabrated and expiry date calibartion date
PZV has limit for seven days and Pressure gauge has 30 days
limitation , however if you want to ensure PZV and PI are correct
calibation is made give the pressure in line and use master pressure
gauge .and for PZV if you have doubt reach the beyond the test limit if
PZV is not pop up meaning its not calibarted .
Yesterday at 8:49am Like
Tariq Faridi normally long pipe line hydro testing there will be 4-5 people
@ different locations and using wlkie talkie sharing information each
other .
Yesterday at 9:27am Like
Saquib Khan You have mentioned if you are in doubt check PRV / PZV
beyond test limit and suppose this PRV pops up can we continue the
test??
Yesterday at 9:34am Like
Tariq Faridi if you have doubut PZV , PRV then you go beyond the test
pressure , and pressure test can be continue if pressure is not droping
down .
Yesterday at 9:36am Like
Saquib Khan Can we continue the test once PRV pops out?? Will it be
safe to continue testing beyond Test Pressure??
Yesterday at 9:40am Like
Saquib Khan I do not agree with you to continue testing after PRV pops
up forget about above test pressure limit
Yesterday at 9:41am Like 1
Tariq Faridi suppose test pressure 450 psi and you reached 460 does
not effect much , but u can know weather PSV pop up or not
Yesterday at 9:43am Like
Saquib Khan Usually PRVs are calibrated to max of 5% above the test
pressure. And if it pops out then it will not be safe to continue testing the
line or system...
Yesterday at 9:48am Like
Suhail Kdr mr.saquib khan you are telling as per aramco rule or not
because in my project PRV s are settled 10%.
Yesterday at 9:52am Unlike 1
Saquib Khan Yes right Suhail Kdr....Tariq mentioned about one month
validity for calibration for PG... I thought he is from some Aramco
Proj....if it is 10% then it will be more dangerous to continue the testing...
Yesterday at 9:56am Like 1
Franco Paul Its not advisable to continue the test if PRVs pops.
I thing subject gets slightly diverted.
Anyways intersting topic.
Yesterday at 10:09am Unlike 1
Tariq Faridi i have a 100 case during testing PSV pop up high pressure
13000 + psi , i accepted the test , beacuse some time specially in
summer PSV pop up due to temp
Yesterday at 10:32am Like
Tariq Faridi sometime during the test or middle of the test PSV pop up
Yesterday at 10:32am Like
Saquib Khan Tariq Faridi....PRVs are for safety purposes ...You can
play with your and others lives not me...You might have conducted
HUNDREDS of hydrotests with Pop Upd PRVs...In your cases / your
clients you do not need PRVs...Take care Sir...There are no spare parts
for human beings readily available in market..
23 hrs Like 1
Tariq Faridi Mr . Saqib I have one question , as qa/qc not safety or HSE
incase if PSV pop up during the pressure test or in the middle of the test
will you alow the test ? or you will reject . by the way the dsicussion i am
uncessary involve in this case , i am client here and contactor are
international compnay by the way PMT also involve not one man show in
my case Saudi Aramco largest and top oil co i am working and there is
no safety or HSE and loss prevention than aramco . however qyestion to
my answer if psv pop up u will continue or reject after ur answer you will
see i will quit from this grup i will not invlove in this business having 26
years of oil and gas exp in diff, gulf country and highly qualified and well
exp ., i am not new in this field and not learner answer my question now .
22 hrs Like
Saquib Khan Tariq Sir... I am not as experienced as you.. One year less
than you..i.e. 25 Yrs...have worked as PID and also PMT in Saudi
Aramco..as a Sr Inspection Engineer in PDO....now with Jacobs in
SADARA as PMC..personally HSE is more concerned to me...Pls do not
take it personally..we need people like you who are well experienced..so
be in our group for healthy discussion..
21 hrs Like 1
Tariq Faridi send me your e mail i want to send the aramco smart sheet
21 hrs Like
Tariq Faridi Mr . Saquib sorry for above my answer will keep continue
sahring my exp to all inspector if you are happy so .
20 hrs Like 1
Saquib Khan It's Ok ..No need to be sorry...everyone has his own point
of view...
20 hrs Like 1