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Chemotherapy helps Cure

Cancer? And the Earth is Flat?

- An Interview with Lothar Hirneise -

Tijn Touber08/2005 (Originally source article published 10/2003AD)

Cancer is one of the most feared diseases in modern society,

regarded by most as a death sentence. This is a remarkable
interview with Lothar Hirneise, an authoritative cancer
specialist who has traveled the world in search of successful
methods of treatment. The fact that he is not a doctor has kept
his mind open enough to make an important discovery: anyone
can find a solution to cancer but brazen confidence is an
essential precondition.

We've been talking for an hour when Hirneise bends over as

if to tell me something in confidence. In a dead-serious tone
he says: "A tumour is the body's solution to a problem. A
tumour forms because someone is no longer producing
adrenaline, which is needed to break down sugar. An excess
of sugar is dangerous, so the body produces tumours.
Tumours ferment burn sugar. They also use a lot of
energy sugar due to the fast division of cells. That's
why some tumours grow so fast. Cancer cells function like
liver cells, only much more efficiently. So the tumour helps
you to rid your body of poisons. Without the tumour you
would be really ill. I always tell people: 'The tumour is not
your problem. A tumour is an incredibly ingenious solution
on the part of the body.' When you get healthy, the tumour
disappears on its own, which is why you shouldn't
immediately operate to remove it. First detoxify yourself. If
the tumour continues to grow which is almost never the
case you can always operate later."

"Cancer is not a problem. Cancer is a solution."

"A tumour is an incredibly ingenious solution on the part of
the body"

That is the provocative and hopeful vision of Lothar Hirneise. He suspects that in
the course of our evolution our bodies created tumours in order to survive: "For
instance, too much sugar in the cells causes blindness as is the case with
diabetics. Creating a tumour is a solution. An infection in your intestines is also a
potential danger. If it gets too big, the intestines become blocked. Here too, the
body's solution is a tumour, which produces enzymes that stop the spread of
infection and heal it. The actual tumour then often disappears by itself. Most
cancer patients are very surprised that they have a tumour. They've been healthy
for years, never had a fever, never needed a doctor and now suddenly they have a
tumour. Where did it come from? The tumour was helping them stay healthy,
until one day everything fell apart."

Lothar Hirneise is not a doctor. But he does have a pioneering and well-
founded vision on cancer. Aided by the grndlichkleit, meticulousness, of his
native German culture, reasoning is his forte. Hirneise is a man of research and
solid proof; a man who took an unusual path in becoming an influential, albeit
controversial, cancer specialist in Germany .

Ten years ago Hirneise was a master in Eastern combat sports and a Kung Fu
teacher. He also owned a successful sporting goods store. In 1996, he sold the
shop for a tidy profit and promised his wife, Chris, and his two sons that after
years of hard work and too much time on the road, he would spend more time at
home with them. Then a good friend was diagnosed with cancer. Hirneise:
"Before I had the sporting goods store I spent 10 years working in hospitals. I
was educated as a therapeutic nurse and also studied psychotherapy for four
years. So it was not illogical that my friend called on me for help, but I didn't
know a lot about cancer. I went in search of information
and came across Lynne McTaggart, the founder of the
English magazine What Doctor's Don't Tell You and
author of the book of the same title.

I attended a conference she organised in London on

alternative cancer treatments. A few of the speakers told
somewhat esoteric stories, but I was impressed by the
research results that were presented."

The What Doctor's Don't Tell You conference in

London marked the start of an intensive quest by
Hirneise for potential cancer therapies. He had time and
money "a unique combination not granted to many
people" and read everything he could get his hands
on. "I nearly drove Chris crazy. Every time I was onto yet another potential cure,
I hopped in an airplane and went there Mexico , Russia , China , the Bahamas,
the United States , all over Europe where haven't I been?"

The quest ultimately led to the foundation of Menschen gegen Krebs in 1997,
which was partly inspired by People Against Cancer, founded by Frank Wiewel,
who Hirneise had met at the conference in London . Menschen gegen Krebs now
publishes a newsletter, organises lectures, workshops and conference and also
offers assistance by telephone and advice via e-mail. You can become a member
and take advantage of these services for 60 a year. Hirneise levies no additional
charges for his advice. There appears to be a great need among cancer patients
for independent information, which is lacking in the medical world. Hirneise:
"Most doctors are good professionals, who
truly want to help their patients. But
they're working in a bad system. After all,
from whom does the doctor get his
information? Firstly, from university
professors. And how do you become a
professor? By working your way up in the
establishment. By repeating what everyone
has already said. There is no other way of
becoming a professor in the scientific
community. Then every doctor regularly
attends conferences in his area of expertise. I
haven't been to a single conference in three
years that wasn't sponsored by the
pharmaceutical industry. And then there are
magazines and trade journals. They're full of
advertisements from the pharmaceutical
industry. And that's not even addressing the
question of who owns these magazines.
There is only one possible conclusion: within conventional medicine
independence is a thing of the past."

Hirneise is a great supporter of an integral approach to cancer treatment, which

also includes non-Western methods: "In all the years I worked in hospitals, I
never heard anyone speak of alternative ways to treat cancer. The average doctor
knows nothing of cancer treatments in Russia , India , China or South America ,
for example. If I ask a doctor about such a treatment, he says: 'If it worked, I
would have heard of it.' But that is just the point: nothing is published about
those treatment methods in the magazines he reads. This is how the system
maintains itself. Oncologists don't know anything about it. Frankly, I think the
word "oncologist" isn't even appropriate for most doctors involved in cancer.
'Chemotherapist' or 'radiotherapist' would be better descriptions. That's often all
they do."

"Every successful cancer treatment contains three ingredients:

1. Thorough detoxification;

2. A change of wrong diet to a correct

anti-cancer raw Biblical diet;

3. And mental or spiritual work"

It is early in the morning, 8:30 am , and

we're sitting having breakfast in
Hirneise's office on the top floor of his
lovely home looking out on the rolling
hills just outside Stuttgart . The subject has been broached: chemotherapy.
Hirneise recently wrote on a book on the subject with the provocative title:
Chemo heilt Krebs und die Erde ist eine Scheibe' (Sensei: Kernen, 2002
Chemotherapy cures cancer and the Earth is flat). Hirneise's vision leaves little to
the imagination: chemotherapy the therapy that so many cancer patients
undergo every day doesn't
work. "I can imagine that in
certain cases chemotherapy could
provide a temporary solution, but
then as part of a complete
protocol which includes
detoxification, nutrition and
mental/spiritual support.
However, I am against the way in
which the poison is often used.
By following the current
protocol, people are being killed.
Full stop. Moreover, [doctors] tell
patients that once the tumour is
gone, they're healthy. That is not
only untrue, it is stupid. By the
way, I know a lot of doctors and I
have a lot of friends who are
doctors, and over a beer they
confide in me that they would
never use chemotherapy on
themselves or their family. Doctors send patients to me because they know the
conventional treatments don't work. They tell their patients: 'I have to give you
this, but it won't work. Just go see Mr. Hirneise.' And yet they continue to work
within the system. That's schizophrenic isn't it? But a doctor has a lot to lose if he
turns his back on the system: money, career, professional standing everyone
looks up to you if you're a doctor. Moreover, if you go against the tide, you are
fought tooth and nail. You have to be able to stand that."

Hirneise is also a highly disputed figure. Doctors say he is crazy, dangerous or

worse. "But I haven't come across any doctor who said: 'Mr. Hirneise, what you
wrote on page 235 doesn't make sense because' There is no scientific
discussion. But that's not surprising. If I ask them for examples of patients in a
late stage that have been cured thanks to their treatment, they become silent. On
the other hand, I can cite thousands of patients and cases that got better even
though those same doctors gave up on them. I know them, I shake their hands
every day."

Hirneise has travelled a lot, has read a lot, and has spoken to doctors and patients
all over the world. He has set down his experiences and research in an impressive
number of statistics. And his conclusion is clear: every successful cancer
treatment includes the following three ingredients: thorough detoxification, a
change of diet and mental or spiritual work. "In every clinic I visited it was the
same story, always and everywhere. It is what the people who overcame cancer
did. I have seen people on their deathbeds, where the cancer had spread to their
bones, brains, lungs and bone marrow and they got better. In the final stage of
cancer, there is no medicine in the world that can save you conventional or

"Of course chemotherapy is no fun, but a radical change in your diet and
lifestyle is more difficult. Thats why so few people survive cancer"

If it's so simple and unequivocal why aren't more people getting better? "Because
success demands discipline and effort. It demands that the patient get moving,
become active, develop a constructive fighting attitude. Most people choose the
easy way: chemotherapy, radiation or an operation. People say: 'What do you
mean the easy way? Do you know how horrible chemotherapy is?' Of course
chemotherapy is no fun, but a radical change in your diet and lifestyle is more
difficult. That's why so few people survive cancer.

"'First detoxify, then a good diet and stay happy,' I tell people. 'What?' they cry,
'stay happy? Are you completely deranged Mr. Hirneise? I have tumours
everywhere, I can't even walk and you're telling me I should have fun?' Then I
tell them that one of two things are going to happen: either you're going to die
soon or you're going to stay alive. If you're
going to die soon, you're better off having
lots of fun now, right? If you're not going
to die, you're better off having fun now too
because there's nothing better for your
immune system. It sounds crazy, but I have
a lot of fun with people that come to me. I
recently did a seminar with terminal cancer
patients rarely have I laughed so much.
Ego satisfaction, money and sex rule the
world. Cancer patients are just about the
only people not interested in these things.
It's as if you were talking to the Pope or
Mother Theresa. I learn a lot from them.
They live one day at a time. They live so
differently than the rest of humanity."

"Cancer cannot exist without stress. One

hundred percent impossible!"

If fun and a meaningful life make an

important contribution to healing cancer,
the question begs whether their absence
encourages the disease. For Lothar
Hirneise, cancer starts with stress: "Cancer
cannot exist without stress. One hundred
percent impossible! There are a lot of
debates on types of stress physical and
psychological but for a cell it doesn't
matter where the stress comes from. Every
cancer patient has a sugar problem. Insulin
transports sugar to cells. Adrenaline and
to a lesser extent cortisol and glucagon
takes it away. Everyone thinks that if you
are under a lot of stress, you have an excess
of adrenaline. This is true, but it's only the beginning. Long-term stress results in
adrenaline shortages. That's what you see in cancer patients. So the cell is full of
sugar that is not broken down. These cells die. Sugar is a poison; too much of it
destroys your arteries, your kidneys and your bones. The body combats that
danger by creating tumours as a last resort for getting rid of the sugar
"For some people, the solution to
the stress that led to the sugar
problem will be to change their
diet because they ate poorly
while for others it will be in the
psychological, spiritual sphere
because they had serious
relationship problems, for
example. That's why a good diet
doesn't work for everyone, which
leads sceptics to say that such a
diet 'therefore' doesn't work. It just
depends on where the stress comes
from. This is why it's so important
that the whole person is taken into
consideration. That is to say: to
talk to the whole person. Frank
Wiewel of People Against Cancer
says: 'Give me a half-hour with a
cancer patient and I'll find the
problem.' My experiences are the
same. Sometimes we need to talk
for hours, but we always find the
problem. The problem for doctors
is that they aren't paid to talk to patients. If two different women with breast
cancer go to a doctor, the problem is clear to him: breast cancer. My experience
is that two cases of breast cancer can be two different diseases. If someone who
has lost a son develops prostate cancer six months later, would you use
chemotherapy to heal him?"

In Hirneise's experience, if patients track down the cause of their cancer and truly
want to change, even those at death's door can heal. Paradoxically, the production
of adrenaline gets back on track once people relax. "I have a photograph from
1994 of a woman from Karlsruhe , who at that time had cancer in nearly all her
bones and in her bone marrow. She couldn't get out of bed or her bones would
break. She was on a lot of morphine and nearly died. She's still alive. I recently
visited her. She's living a normal life. How much sicker can you be? I know
another woman who died twice and was resuscitated twice. The priest was at her
bedside to administer the final sacraments. She's doing very well. She's in her
70s, skis in Switzerland and has a lover who's 20 years younger."
Hirneise is all too aware that in many ways what he says not only flies in the
face of the prevailing view, but moreover is not easy to understand, let alone to
apply once the 'cancer' diagnosis has been given. "I had to travel around the
world first and only understood it after a couple of years, so how can I expect
that someone will understand it after a one-hour lecture?" Hirneise is currently
training 30 people who, like himself, can talk to patients just after they've been
handed their 'death sentence'. "You need someone objective just then who can
think rationally. At that moment your friends and family members are just as
emotional as you are. Most people think the doctor is that objective person. He is
not. You see you're not just a patient, but also a customer. He has something to
sell, whether it's a regular or alternative doctor. We could save a lot of lives if an
objective, independent expert talked to patients right away. Which is why we set
up the training course whereby each participant promises not to practice
psychotherapy or any other cancer treatment on his or her own."

The second obstacle on the path to healing is the so-called aftercare. "After a
treatment, a lot of patients are asked to come back in three months. Most people
can't sleep for two weeks just before those three months are up. Talk about stress!
Then they get a blood test and have to wait a week for the results. It makes
people extremely insecure. There is too much opportunity for additional
damaging stress. And for misunderstandings. Most doctors use a language no one
understands. I advise patients to stay away from aftercare. It is too dangerous."

An example: "A while ago I gave a lecture after which a man came up, hugged
me and said: 'You saved my life.' A few months later his daughter called. He had
died. What happened? The children had convinced their father to go to a doctor
after all. He finally did. That was on a Monday. That Saturday he died. The
stress, the fear and anxiety around the doctor's vague diagnosis had driven him
crazy. When people ask me which diagnostic tests they should and shouldn't do I
tell them: 'Can you sleep without that diagnosis?' If so, don't do it. If you need the
diagnosis to sleep better, then go ahead. Instead of a blood test, you're better off
looking in the mirror. Look at your whole body, your skin, etc. That is a better
diagnosis. Then meditate and listen to your body. Listen to what it wants to tell
you. You will discover a great deal, gain a lot of insight. Afterwards you can
always go to a doctor. Don't just go to a doctor to have your blood tested or have
an x-ray. I know this is a big sacrifice. We think the doctor should know best,
right? Wrong. Believe me, that's not the way it works. The tumour is not your
enemy. Stress is the true source and no one can handle the stress of too many

Perhaps Lothar Hirneise's most important message is that each person must find
his or her own path to healing. A doctor can help in this process. But so can a
friend. Everyone can make their own critical assessment of whether a particular
treatment would truly be good for them. Individuality is Hirneise's inspiration. A
final bit of advice from the man who spoke to so many people that were capable
of overcoming their illnesses: "Make a deal with your tumour. I've noticed that a
lot of survivors do this. They start a dialogue with the tumour: 'Dear tumour, this
is a lose/lose situation. If you get bigger, I'll have to die and so will you. Let's
turn this around into a win/win situation. You get smaller you don't have to
die, but shrink to normal proportions which will mean I can live. In return
I'll ' I tell patients, you have to be very careful what you promise, because the
tumour will only keep to its end of the bargain if you do too. If you can't stick to
it, make a new deal. There are some people I cannot help. There was one woman
whose son had unsuccessfully attempted suicide. On his deathbed she pleaded to
God to take her life instead of his. The son lived. A couple of weeks later she had
cancer. I told her to make a new deal with God, to talk to him again. But she was
afraid that God would then take her son's life. She died shortly thereafter. No one
can help someone like that. That is the power of a contract. Every person and
every illness is unique and has the right to respect and a very personal approach."

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