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By dragonmsl on 6 May, 2015 - 8:38 pm

According to the standards, pressure transmitter should be installed below the pressure
tapping point for the water process line.
what if pipe line is installed on the ground level, so transmitter is installed above the
tapping point? Is it possible to solve this problem with offset elevation setting? What is
key reason of installing of pressure transmitter below the tapping point?
Thanks.

By Smart_S on 7 May, 2015 - 1:39 am


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Offsetting for elevation accounts for the difference in hydrostatic pressure (head) of the
water in the impulse line between tap and element. When mounted above the process
pipe, the water in the impulse line may drain out if the process pipe is ever drained,
replacing water with 'air'. That changes the head of the impulse line and thus the Featured Video...
calibrated-in elevation offset.
However, if the process operating pressure is high enough that the impulse line head
pressure is negligible, mounting above isn't a problem IMO. Others opinion may
contradict :)

By Roy Matson on 8 May, 2015 - 4:50 pm

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>However, if the process operating pressure is high enough
>that the impulse line head pressure is negligible, mounting
>above isn't a problem IMO. Others opinion may contradict :)
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Is there any possibility of freezing?
If the takeoff point is at the top and there's any entrained air chances are the impulse
lines will soon be full of air also protecting it from a freeze up.
For dirty liquids (entrained solids) it's better above
The only reason really to mount the transmitter above the line is if it has a display and
you want the operator to be able to read it easily otherwise why not mount the
transmitter at pipe level.

By Carl_E on 7 May, 2015 - 7:43 am

1) A water liquid pressure measurement is 'low' by whatever elevation the meter/gauge is


mounted above the tap/port. The error varies by the density of the fluid. It's called
hydrostatic error.
A 28" elevation reduces the reading about 1 psi (water).
0.5m elevation reduces the reading about 5kPa.
If your measurement is an electronic signal, you can 'add' the error back in by scaling the
receiver device's input.
Some mechanical pressure gauges can be adjusted/calibrated for the hydrostatic offset
error.
2) A meter/gauge mounted above a liquid line can fill with air over time. At very low
pressures, that can produce a measurement error.
Meters/gauges for gas service are mounted 'above' to provide drainage of
condensate/liquids. The error elevation for gas is minimal.

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By Pashka on 15 May, 2015 - 4:36 am

Dear dragonmsi,
The most important thing is how the tapping point is installed on the pipe.
For example: you have horizontal pipe with the liquid. The tapping point HAS TO BE
installed 45 DEG below the horizontal line of the pipe. Then there are three ways how to
install PT:
1) On the same level with the tapping point (the best way if it is possible)
2) Below the tapping point (if pipe is installed too high). Then you have to consider to
set up the negative offset value. It will be calculated as a column of the liquid between
the tapping point and the PT.
3) Above the tapping point (if pipe is installed too high). Then you have to consider to
set up the positive offset value. It will be calculated as a column of the liquid between
the tapping point and the PT.
All three ways are correct and never will bring any air to the instrument pipe because the
TAPPING POINT HAS INSTALLED CORRECTLY.
Of course, the instrument pipe has to be mounted with the required slopes (in respect to
the PT installation).
If the tapping point has been installed wrong then it does not matter where will be
installed your PT.
If for example, the tapping point for liquid was installed above the horizontal line of the
pipe then it will allows to small air bubbles to gather in tapping point and then during
long operation it will create an air block there which bring the measurement error.

By K.V.Kumar on 23 June, 2015 - 2:00 pm

We can adjust the zero by off-set. The reason for mounting below the line is avoid vapor
or air trap, which will affect the zero elevation done during the calibration.
K.V.Kumar

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