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Hi PP

gurus ,

Help me
in
understan
ding
purpose
with
suitable
example
different
planning
strategies
say
Strategy
10 , 11 ,
20 , 30 ,
26 , 40
and 50 .
Find
below an
example
for which
how the
above
said
strategies
will act
wrt .

Ex : You
have
Unrestrict
ed stock
of say X =
100 pcs
and stock
in quality
inspection
is X = 10
pcs .

You have
PIR ( X )
= 100 pcs
,
Productio
n order( X
) = 50 pcs
,
Sales
order( X )
= 150 pcs
,
Productio
n order
against
sales
order (X)
=150
pcs ,
Inprocess
(X) = 30
Units ,
sales
order
stock (X)
= 25 units
.

Thanx in
advance

Regards,

Raj
Prasobh
Karunak...

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Re: Question : Different
planning strategies in SAP
PP
Posted: Jun 20, 2007 8:35
AM in response to:
vimalbalaji

Raj,

Please take few minutes to go over the sample scenario's available in


help,

Here is the link for it....

Sample Scenario - Planning strategy

Hope this helps...

Regards,
Prasobh

S Re: Question : Different planning strategies in SAP PP


Nanda Posted: Jun 20, 2007 8:35 AM in response to: vimalbalaji
Kumar
Hi,
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In the case of strategy 10 the sales order will not have any effect in the planning run.only for

In the case of 11 plant stock will not be considered in net reqmts calculation.

In the case of 40 sales order will have direct influnce on production.


Sales order consume PIRs

Master plan is always adjusted to suit the requirements situation.

In the case of 20 only after you receive sales order actual production starts.No PIR is used.

Regards,
nandha.

Ramanujan Re: Question : Different planning strategies in SAP PP


Chitr... Posted: Jun 20, 2007 8:39 AM in response to: vimalbalaji

Posts: 506
Raj,
Questions: 2
Registered: 3/30/07
Forum points: 1,130 Have you gone through the help doc for planning strategies:

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/cb/7f9b7043b711d189410000e829fbbd/fra

In overall terms:

In make to stock - 10, 11, 40

In MTS the general stock and general prod orders in warehouse are considered incalculating
is that in 11 irrespective of Warehouse stock prod takes place as per Planned Ind requireme

In MTO (20/ 50):


The sales order stock and prod order w.r.to sales order aone is considered.

Hope this will give you an overall idea.

regards
ram

TAJUDDIN Re: Question : Different Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED planning strategies in SAP
PP
Posts: 1,074 Posted: Jun 20, 2007 10:26 AM
Questions: 7 in response to: vimalbalaji
Registered: 3/14/07
Forum points: 1,874
Hi Raj,

Request you to open seperate threads to know the details about the
each strategy with some examples.
Make to stock: 10, 11, 30 and 40

Sales orders are relevent for MRP in 10 and 11 and for 30 and 40
sales orders are relevent for MRP. Except 11 all strategies are
relevent for for net requireements planning means proposals comes
for the shortage quantity.For 11 proposals comes for the exact
requirement quantity.

Make to order: 26 use for varaint material and 50 is for planning


without final assembly (carry out planning/production with PIRs).

Inspection lots will be taken into account for the net requirements
calculation.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

MM Re: Question : Different Reply E-mail this post


Consultant planning strategies in SAP
PP
Posts: 9 Posted: Jun 21, 2007 3:09 PM
Questions: 2 in response to: vimalbalaji
Registered: 4/30/07
Forum points: 0
Hi Raj,
If you give me your email address I can send you a useful MRP
document I have. This provides details on the various strategies.

Saravana Re: Question : Different Reply E-mail this post


Srinivas planning strategies in SAP
PP
Posts: 15 Posted: Jun 22, 2007 10:40 AM
Questions: 7 in response to: MM
Registered: 6/13/07 Consultant
Forum points: 0

HI,

Can you forward that document to my mail id


saravana_srinivas@yahoo.com

Chakri Re: Question : Different Reply E-mail this post


planning strategies in SAP
Posts: 98 PP
Questions: 9 Posted: Jun 22, 2007 11:03 PM
Registered: 4/29/07 in response to: MM
Forum points: 86 Consultant

Hi
can you also please forward it to my email also

SAPchakradhar@gmail.com
thx in advance and appreciate your help

VIJAYABHASKAR Re: Question : Different Reply E-mail this post


DK planning strategies in SAP
PP
Posts: 33 Posted: Jun 23, 2007 8:20 PM
Questions: 21 in response to: Chakri
Registered: 5/16/06
Forum points: 6
Hi
can you also please forward it to my email
d.k.vijayabhaskar@gmail.com

nsr Re: Question : Different Reply E-mail this post


reddy planning strategies in SAP
PP
Posts: 3 Posted: Jun 24, 2007 12:42 PM
Questions: 1 in response to: MM
Registered: 4/30/07 Consultant
Forum points: 0

HI,
I am getting confused in the strategies, can you please send those
docs by this mail seenu1219@gmail.com

Thanx in advance

Regards,
NSR

Siddheshwar Re: Question : Different Reply E-mail this post


Raj... planning strategies in SAP
PP
Posts: 90 Posted: Jun 25, 2007 1:51 PM
Questions: 0 in response to: vimalbalaji
Registered: 6/25/07
Forum points: 76
Hi Raj,

1. stratetegy 10 PIR consumed after Goods issue for the sales order
i.e dispatch of sales order.
2. Strategy 40 whenver sales oredr came that moment the PIR
consumed.
For more clearance see the help from Demand managemnt -strategy
10, 40
and their scinario with exapmple.

Hope you will clear

Regards
Siddhesh
MRP list in R3 Reply E-mail this post
Posted: Jun 25, 2007 12:55 PM

When we run MRP ,then purchase requisitions we get from me5a and
plan orders from coois,is there any command which gives MRP result
together.

S Nanda Kumar Re: MRP list in R3 Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 25, 2007 1:02 PM
in response to: vikas vikas

Hi,

You can try in MD04/MD05/MD06/MD07

Regards,
nandha

Senthilkumar SD Re: MRP list in R3 Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 25, 2007 1:06 PM
in response to: vikas vikas

Hi,

Check in MDLD (print mrp list).


MD06 collective mrp list

Regards,
SDS

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: MRP list in R3 Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 25, 2007 1:12 PM
in response to: vikas vikas

Hi,

U can get this cosolidate result in MD04 i.e stock requirement list.

also try MD05, MD48

Regards
Siddhesh

MRP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:26 AM

Hi Guys,
I want a clarification in MRP,Let me explain the scenario briefly,sale
order is entered for 80 qty & it will be dispatched across 5-6 months,Like
wise all sale orders are received with consolidated qty to be dispatched
across several months,Can the MRP be run for the particular
period(from july to sept),if it can be then where i have to define it,How
can i use NETPL processing key in this context?

TAJUDDIN Re: MRP Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:34 AM
in response to: vijai prasad
sh...

You can define NETPL in plant parameters (transactions OPPQ) in


Planning horizon. But when you run the MRP with NETPL then all the
issues (sales orders) will be planned which falls within this horizon
period (working days) from the day of the MRP.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: MRP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 26, 2007 10:23 AM
in response to: vijai prasad
sh...

Vijay,

The prequisite for your requirement is that while creating the sales
order you have to define the delivery schedule lines for delivry in
different months. You can do enter it in VA01 in Goto>Item>Schedule
Lines.

So when MRP is run with planning horizon then the sales order qty
for the delievry schedule falling within the planning horizon only will
be planned. So maintain the planning horizon such that it takes only 3
months from the current date = 90 days for planning only 3 months
schedules.

Hope useful, reward points and close this thread.

Regards
ram

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: MRP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 26, 2007 11:11 AM
in response to: vijai prasad
sh...

Hi Vijay,

You can do this in OPPQ- i.e MRP plant parametr , you define the
planning horozon and when you run MRP you choose the NETPL, it
will planned all sales order thet falles within this planning horizon.

Regards
Siddhesh

in mrp Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 26, 2007 10:19 AM

what is the diffs b/w safety stock, reorder point, backflush

S Nanda Kumar Re: in mrp Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 26, 2007 10:29 AM
in response to: raj

Hi,

safety stock ---- buffer stock in hand to manage if material


procurement is delayed for some reasons.

Reorder Point--- In reorder point planning whenever the stock falls


below the reorder point proc proposals are created.
This reorder point should cover avg material consumption expected
during Replinishment lead time.

For defining the ROP we need safety stock, avg material


consumption, RLT

For defining the safety stock we need


past consumption data, service level to be acheived.

Back flushing :
Whenever a backflushing indicator is set in routing while doing
confirmation of op the system automatically backflushes the material
component
ie no need to do manual GI IE 261 Movement type need neot be
carried out.
Regards,
nandha

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: in mrp Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 26, 2007 2:01 PM
in response to: raj

Hi Bakyaraj,
Safety stock: This is the buffer stock which defining in Material master
, if you are stock is falls below safety stock then system give mesg or
error depends on the settings in SPRO , u can see this while
converting planned order to production order.

Reorder point: This one of the MRP procedure like MRP, MPS and
consumption based planning eg RO point.
This u can define in MM01 of MRP view .
If the plant stcok and firmed receipt falls below RO pont then system
calculte the shortage quantity automatically with the help of Lot size
procurment - generally it is replenishment up to maximum level and
Fixed lot size.
For this u have to give RO point u have to give Safety stock ,Average
consumption
Replenishment lead time if ur using this lot size , with this u also
define Past consumption values (historical data) or future
requirements
Vendor/production delivery timelines
Service level to be achieved
Forecast error, that is, the deviation from the expected requirements it
dependa wheather u r using manual RO point or Automatic RO point.

Backflush:This function is auomatic posting of goods without doing


MB31 with 101and MB1B with 261.
This settings u can do in MM01 , work center and routing.
Apart from this there is one more setings in OPl8 i.e order type
dependent parameter .

In REM process there is agin backflush terminology for posting order /


production these are assebbly backflush BOTh GI and GR done.
Component backflush - only GI done
Activity backflush - only activity posted no GI and GR
Hope u will clear , If so then reward and close this thred

Regards
Siddhesh

About Planning Strategy10,not Reply E-mail this post


comsume PIR(planned
indepedent requirement)
Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:01 AM
Hi guys:
I just tested Make to stock production,I set a material with planning
strategy 10.
and create PIR using md61,and running MRP(md02) to produce plan
order,then
I convert plan order to production order and make recepit using mb31
and then I create custemor requirement using MD81 and then make
good issue using MB1A
then stock has been issued but PIR still exists.

but PIR should comsumed by Custemor requirement when it is issued.

who could tell me why....


thanks..

Re: About Planning Reply E-mail this post


Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 1,074
requirement)
Questions: 7 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:09 AM
Registered: 3/14/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,874
Hi Kevin,

In planning strategy 10, PIRs will not be consumed by the customer


requirements. Customer requirements are only for information
purpose. This will be reduce when the goods will be issued against
this order to the customer.

PIRs will reduce when you perform the confirmation and posts the
Goods receipt to the storage location.

For any question then please let me know.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Re: About Planning Reply E-mail this post


Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 69
requirement)
Questions: 21 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:14 AM
Registered: 5/21/07 in response to: TAJUDDIN
Forum points: 0 MOHAMMED

Hi TAJUDDIN:
Yes,you are very right.I think so,But I have made the good issue for
Customer requirement.stock has been reduced but PIR still exist.

Of course,production order from PIR ,I have done the good


receipt,but PIR still exist.
Re: About Planning Reply E-mail this post
Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
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requirement)
Questions: 7 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:20 AM
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Hi,

I dont whether consumption modes are relevent for the strategy 10


but try and maintain some backward/ forward consumptions MRP3
view and check.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Re: About Planning Reply E-mail this post


Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 506
requirement)
Questions: 2 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:21 AM
Registered: 3/30/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,130
Kevin,

You have to create sales order via VA01 and then issue goods to the
delivery created via VL01N. Then the PIR will reduce.

Try this and let me know.

Regards
Ram

Message was edited by:


Ramanujan Chitrakootam

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Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 110
requirement)
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:24 AM
Registered: 4/27/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 222
Hi kevin

For strategy 10, The consumption of the PIR is carried


out at goods issue. (the indicator "PIR reduction" in Customizing of
the requirements class 30 must be set if you want to reduce the PIR
when delivering to a sales order).
The oldest PIR is reduced first according to the FIFO (first-in-first-out)
principle
using the requirement date. Future planned independent
requirements are also reduced by goods issues, if allowed by the
consumption mode and the forward consumption period

Hope this helps

Regards
SK

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Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 69
requirement)
Questions: 21 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 9:59 AM
Registered: 5/21/07 in response to: S K GANESAN
Forum points: 0
HI SK Ganesan:
yes ,in my system,reqirement class 30 is set with PIR reduciotn.but
when I create customer requirement using MD81,How can i know if
this customer reqirement is belong to class 30.I just see its
requirement type is KSL(Sale frm stck w/o ind.req.red.),but when I
changed it into 30.system prompted 30 is not defined ,what's the
relationship between reqirement class you mentioned and reqirement
type in MD81..thanks...

Re: About Planning Reply E-mail this post


Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 1,074
requirement)
Questions: 7 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 10:13 AM
Registered: 3/14/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,874
Hi Kevin,

In transaction OMPC "independent requierments reduction" put the


indicator "X" for the independent requirement reduction. If this is
blank then PIRs will reduce when you make withdrawel for the sales
order from the stock.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Re: About Planning Reply E-mail this post


Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 69
requirement)
Questions: 21 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 10:15 AM
Registered: 5/21/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 0
Hi SK Ganesan:
I have find out relationship between reqirement class and requirement
type.
In my system,reqirement type:KSL's requirement class is 30.and
requirement 30 is up with PIR reduciotn.
Now I really know what the problem is ,why customer requirement do
not comsume PIRs....

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Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 69
requirement)
Questions: 21 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 10:24 AM
Registered: 5/21/07 in response to: TAJUDDIN
Forum points: 0 MOHAMMED

HI TAJUDDIN:
thansk for your information,but in my system.I found no requirement
class 30 maintained in it when I run OMPC,what's that meant.

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Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 506
requirement)
Questions: 2 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 11:10 AM
Registered: 3/30/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,130
Kevin,

WHich transaction and which mvt type you have used to issue the
material to Customer requirements.

As I said you have to issue the material to the delivery created for the
customer order. Only then PIR will be reduced.

Regards
Ram

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Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 90
requirement)
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 26, 2007 11:24 AM
Registered: 6/25/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 76
Hi kevin,
In startegy10 PIR will reduce when GI for sales oreder done i.e goods
issue for your custmer requirement / sales order.
Insted of creating custmer requirement from MD81 please create
sales order VA01 and make Goods issue to this sales order by
VL01N.
The custmer requirement and sales oredr are same but u have to
create only sales order then it will be definately reduce.
If still not then check the consumption mode from MRP views , check
requirement type and respective class also, see the settings in
OMPC.
Regards
Siddhesh

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Strategy10,not comsume
PIR(planned indepedent
Posts: 69
requirement)
Questions: 21 Posted: Jun 27, 2007 8:30 AM
Registered: 5/21/07 in response to: Siddheshwar
Forum points: 0 Raj...

Hi everyone above
thank you for your information,I am out,reason why not comsume PIR
is that I use wrong PIR type.I will rewards the points accordingly....

Dear
all,
I am
not
able
to
view
sales
orders
in
MD04
( SToc
ks/Re
quire
ment
list). i
am
using
Strate
gy 40(
Planni
ng
with
assem
bly)

Kindly
sugge
st...

Regar
ds
kiran
S
Nanda
Kumar

Posts: 618
Questions: 17
Registered: 3/22/07
Forum points: 924
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Re: Not able to view sales
orders in MD04
Posted: Jun 25, 2007 3:18
PM in response to:
Kirankumar Sal...

Hi ,

check in ovzg tcode ( sd- maintain requirements classes ) against


your reqmts classes( 050 warehouse consumption) NO MRP
COLOUMN indicator 2 REQMTS NEITHER PLANNED NOR
DISPLAYED IS ENABLED.

Also check in reqmts classes 050 transfer of reqmts indicator is


enabled.

Regards,
nandha

TAJUDDIN Re: Not able to view sales Reply E-mail this post
MOHAMMED orders in MD04
Posted: Jun 25, 2007 3:19 PM
in response to: Kirankumar
Sal...

Hi Kiran,

This is not possible. Please follow the path to create sales order.

1) Create customer from VD01


2) Perform the listing for the sales part VB01
3) then create sales order from VA01

Also check that you have properly assigned the availability check
group and nobody has changed the in customizing strategy 40. In
strategy 40 "transfer of requirements" allowed check box must be
enabled.

In sales order "procurement tab" you must have requirement type


"KSV" type.

If any question then please inform with rewarding suitable points.


Regards
TAJUDDIN

Kirankumar Sal... Re: Not able to view sales Reply E-mail this post
orders in MD04
Posted: Jun 25, 2007 3:53 PM
in response to: S Nanda
Kumar

Dear Nandha,
Requirement lcass No MRP is Requirement planned but the indicator
Ind reqmts reduction is disabled ...i will check by enalbling the
indicator and revert back ...
thanks for reply

regards
Kiran

Kirankumar Sal... Re: Not able to view sales Reply E-mail this post
orders in MD04
Posted: Jun 25, 2007 3:59 PM
in response to: TAJUDDIN
MOHAMMED

Dear Tajuddin,
The sales order has been already created with alll steps you
suggested but this does not solve the problem of display... i have slo
gone thr' note 188168 which suggest some advance correction...still
the problem is not resolved

regards
Kiran

TAJUDDIN Re: Not able to view sales Reply E-mail this post
MOHAMMED orders in MD04
Posted: Jun 25, 2007 4:01 PM
in response to: Kirankumar
Sal...

Hi Kiran,

Check whether the stoarge location is maintained correctly in both


Sales order and material master. You shoud not have the planned
sepeartely indicator in the MRP4 view for the storage location
mention in the sales order.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: Not able to view sales Reply E-mail this post
orders in MD04
Posted: Jun 26, 2007 2:06 PM
in response to: Kirankumar
Sal...

Hi,
When you are creating sales oredr plz check the proper storage
location , and in procurment Tab page define proper requirement
type.
Also check the settings of OVZG req type and respective class.

Regarsd
Siddhesh

Suhas Somani Re: Not able to view sales Reply E-mail this post
orders in MD04
Posted: Jun 27, 2007 12:21 PM
in response to: Kirankumar
Sal...

Hi Kiran,

Enter availability check 02 in MRP 3 , it will solve your problem.

If any problem tell again.

Regards,

Suhas

TAJUDDIN Re: Not able to view sales Reply E-mail this post
MOHAMMED orders in MD04
Posted: Jun 27, 2007 12:37 PM
in response to: Kirankumar
Sal...

Hi Kiran,

If everything is OK then run teh program SDRQCR21 from SE38.


This program updates the data between sales orders tables to MD04
transaction (MRP).

for any question then please inform.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

I have
an
issue ;
We
are
creati
ng a
produ
ction
order
from
Co01.
It is
not
releas
ed
yet.W
hen I
do the
materi
al
availa
bility
check,
it says
all
comp
onene
ts are
availa
ble for
the
order
when
the
raw
materi
al is
not
availa
ble.
In
Availa
bility
overvi
ew -
there
is
some
stock
of the
rawm
aterial
.But
there
are
many
depen
edent
requir
ement
s from
previo
us
dates
which
reduc
es the
stock
to
0.But
the
ATP
quanti
ty is
not
consu
med.It
has
still
the
same
amou
nt of
stock
from
the
begin
ning.T
he
syste
m is
not
consid
ering
the
depen
dent
requir
ement
s even
thoug
h in
the
scope
of
check
scree
n the
check
box
which
says
incl.de
pende
nt
reqs
has
been
check
ed.
I have
set
individ
ual
requir
ement
s(02)
for the
raw
materi
al in
MRP3
view
for
availa
bility
check
with
PP
checki
ng
rule.
Looks
like
some
basic
config
uratio
n in
spro,p
lease
give
your
sugge
stions
on
this.

Thank
s
Thank
s
S
Nanda
Kumar

Posts: 618
Questions: 17
Registered: 3/22/07
Forum points: 924
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Re: Availability Check
Posted: Jun 23, 2007 4:38
AM in response to:
PP_Discrete

Hi,

1.Check in define checking group whether No check indicator has


been enabled.

2. since you have checked the material availability during order


creation check
in define checking controlOPJK against business transaction 1
whether
in No check box the indicator is enabled.
3. Check in OPJK whether Type of comp check is ATP CHECK.

Regards,
nandha

Senthilkumar SD Re: Availability Check Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 23, 2007 11:07 AM
in response to: PP_Discrete

Hi,

You have given the right checking group '02' in the mrp 2 view.

Check whether you are checking availablity check based on ATP qty
or PIR qty.

Check in OPJK.

Regards,
SDS

PP_Discrete Re: Availability Check Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 25, 2007 4:00 PM
in response to: Senthilkumar
SD

Hi Nandha and SDS,


Thanks for u'r suggestions,but the no check indicator in OPJK is for
automatic availablity check. I am manually checking the
availability.The availability check is based on ATP qty. Even in OPJK
when I uncheck the no check indicator it still says all materials are
available when some of the components are not. I will gald to hear if
you have any other suggestions.
Thanks

S K GANESAN Re: Availability Check Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 25, 2007 4:13 PM
in response to: PP_Discrete

Hi

check whether the raw material has any future reciepts? if exists and
also in individual/ collective if you set to individual the available stock
will be shown as existing and dependent reqts will not consume as for
each dep req separate proc elements will be created.

Hope this helps

regards
SK

PP_Discrete Re: Availability Check Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 25, 2007 4:29 PM
in response to: S K GANESAN

Hi SK,
In MRP4 view i have not set to individual and there are no future
receipts.If you don't mind can you please send an email to
emailtr@gmail.com?

Thanks

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: Availability Check Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 26, 2007 5:51 AM
in response to: PP_Discrete

Please send the screen shots of the ATP check overviw, scope of
check and Prod ord component over to my mailid.

Rgds
Ram

Suhas Somani Re: Availability Check Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 27, 2007 2:45 PM
in response to: PP_Discrete

Hi PP,

In scope of planning is it tick on w/o RLT? if not correct it.

Please check,

Regards,
Suhas

Shirish Kulkarni Re: Availability Check Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 28, 2007 1:13 PM
in response to: PP_Discrete

There may be possibility of u r doing availability check using RLT.In


this within RLT partial quantity is confirmed and outside rlt it has been
assumed that all quantity is ATP quantity.So you check what is
happening in ur case.For this check Availability contril,Availability
scope.Also mainitain control parameters for both i.e. 01 and 02.

MRP Run is not happening for Reply E-mail this post


processing key 'NETCH' and
'NETPL'
Posted: Jun 11, 2007 8:02 AM

Hi All,

I am trying to run MRP for plant X (Through MD01)and taking the


processing key 'NETCH' and I found that MRP is not happening with this
processing key. If I take, 'NEUPL', Its happening. Its not happening with
'NETCH' and 'NETPL'.

Through MD02 its working fine. and if I run MRP for other plant say Y
and Z, its running properly through MD01.

Please see, what could be the possible cause.

Thanks

Pavan Shrivastava

ramakant shekap... Re: MRP Run is not Reply E-mail this post
happening for processing
key 'NETCH' and 'NETPL'
Posted: Jun 11, 2007 8:18 AM
in response to: Pavan
Shrivastava

Hi ,
Please check the planning file entries for materials and carry out
consistancy check through MDRE.

regards
Ramakant

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: MRP Run is not Reply E-mail this post
happening for processing
key 'NETCH' and 'NETPL'
Posted: Jun 11, 2007 8:41 AM
in response to: Pavan
Shrivastava

Try maintaining GR processing time in plant X as the required number


of days for transfer from X to Y. Then automatically the order finish
date of the planned order in plant X would be required date in Y
minus the GR processing time in X.

Regards
Ramanujan

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: MRP Run is not Reply E-mail this post
happening for processing
key 'NETCH' and 'NETPL'

Posted: Jun 11, 2007 8:57 AM


in response to: Pavan
Shrivastava

Sorry to have posted my previous message in the wrong thread.

I hope you are aware of the different processing keys. Please go


through the SAP help for the same.

Your message indicates that the material has not undergone any
change relevant to MRP since the last MRP run or in the planning
horizon. So the planning file will not have an entry for the keys
NETCH and NETPL.

So to carry out MRP for the material you need to create the planning
file entry in transaction MD20 for the keys NETCH and NETPL.

Regards
Ramanujan

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: MRP Run is not Reply E-mail this post
happening for processing
key 'NETCH' and 'NETPL'
Posted: Jun 28, 2007 2:35 PM
in response to: Pavan
Shrivastava

Hi Pavan,

Please check the planning file wheather this materil is marked for
NETCH entry or not.
Also maintain the inhouse production time in MM01 for the plant X
and Y.
Check MDBT , MD20.
You will get the result.

Regards
Siddhesh

difference between Master Reply E-mail this post


Recipe and Routing? Process
order and production
Posted: Jun 21, 2007 2:38 PM

What is the difference between

MASTER RECIPE and ROUTING ? Apart from basic information that


Master recipe is used in PP-PI and Routing is used in PP discrete and
REM. Some structural or usage differences

thanks in advance
Madhu Kiran.

Prasobh Karunak... Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


Master Recipe and
Routing? Process order
and production
Posted: Jun 21, 2007 2:44 PM
in response to: Madhu Kiran

Madhu,

I am not discouraging you, but i would suggest you to have this


learning hands on by creating couple of Recipes and Routings on
your own.

Your queries based on the observations while creating is apperciated.

Regards,
Prasobh

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


Master Recipe and
Routing? Process order
and production
Posted: Jun 25, 2007 2:09 PM
in response to: Madhu Kiran

Dear Madhu Kiran,


Master receope is used in Prcocess industry
Because-1. In master receipe the PI sheet is attached this is nothing
but the work instruction for the process operartor i.e how to executive
the phase into the shopfloor. Which is requirement of Process
industry.
2. Process industry is based on batch mangement process, process
mangement and which is prerequisite of S88. ISA and NAMMAR
these are the extranal agency whcich guide to the process industry
3. Master receipe is designed on the above criteri , apart from this
you can attach PI sheet, fro process operator.
4. U can change BOM only from Master recipe
5. In master recipe u can do the Materil qunatity calculation.
6. In domain terminology it is also called Receipe which is given by
QA department to production department and executive the same
with cosideraing PI sheet and the parameter inside the PI sheet- this
PI sheet consiit of Charteristics and assgined to instructio type in
SPRO and this is allocate to phase of master reicepe . This phase is
assignen to operation.
7.The flow is like Operatoin consit of one or more phases- operation
are performed in primary resource , phase are assigned to operation ,
this phase perfored in secondary resoure and primary resource .,
phase consit of PI sheet, U can assingned inspection charatsric to
operation also if implimening QM.
7. Process mangement is part of PI indusry and where Data from
legcy system to SAP system flow with SAP ODA , OLE and third part
tool which is certifie by SAP

BUT IN CASE OF Rauting and Rate routing


1. There is no phases only operation
2. There is no PI sheet
3.Ther is no primary and secondary Resources
4. This is used in REM process and Dscret manufacturing process.

Hope you will clear, if not then plz feel freee to ask I worked with PI
and present the techinical paper for the same.

Regards
Siddhesh

Madhu Kiran Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


Master Recipe and
Routing? Process order
and production
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 5:35 AM
in response to: Prasobh
Karunak...

dear siddesh ,

thanks for ur reply mail and it was very informative


could you please send me any presentation material on SAP PP-PI ,
master recipes, resources especially handling PROCES
MANAGEMENT?
to
mcmkiran@gmail.com

please do the needful

regards,
madhu kiran

about strategy 11 Gross Reply E-mail this post


Requirement Planning 11
PIR(BSF) is not comsumed
Posted: Jun 28, 2007 9:18 AM

Hi guys:
between two lines is from SAP course.but I can't test it out.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Make-to-Stock Production Gross Requirements Planning (11)
Gross requirements planning, focus on load on production.
Brief explanation of the gross requirements planning logic based on a
numerical
example:
1. Stock 15 pieces, planned ind. req. 10 pieces, procurement? Yes.
Stock is
not taken into account.
2. Goods issue of 7 pieces: Stock 15 pieces 22 pieces, planned ind.
req. 10
pieces 3 pieces (oldest requirement is reduced).
-----------------------------------------------------------------
I just tested ,BSF PIR(strategy 11) is not consumed by customer
requirement..
but strategy 10 LSF can be comsumed by customer requirement..
Just why..who can do it successfully?

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 506
not comsumed
Questions: 2 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 9:22 AM
Registered: 3/30/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,130
Kevin,

Not clear about your question.

Just to clarify in startegy 11 PIR is consumed by goods receipt to


prodcion order not on issue to customer.

Rgds
Ram
Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post
Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 1,018
not comsumed
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 9:28 AM
Registered: 9/1/06 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,874
Kevin,

Unable to understand..You said Goods Issue 7 pieces, and also


mentioned that stock increased to 22 pieces.

Hope this was a GR for the production order, if so during GR of the


production order your PIR should get reduced based on the
consumption mode/period set in MRP3 view. Important thing here is
that you need to have "Mixed MRP" = 2 set in MRP3 view itself.

If your question was why sale order PGI consumes PIR incase of
strategy 10, then it is because of the requirement type/class setting
which is defined that way to behave for Customer requirement. You
can see this in Planning strategy defination under "Requirement type
of Customer requirements"

Hope this helps...Reward your points,

Regards,
Prasobh

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 298
not comsumed
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 9:32 AM
Registered: 4/24/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 354
Hi,

For 11 strategy PIR is consumed when GR is done &

for 10 strategy PIR is consumed while a delivery is made.

Pl. check the requirement type in the md61 screen.

Regards,
SDS

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 69
not comsumed
Questions: 21 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 9:45 AM
Registered: 5/21/07 in response to: Prasobh
Forum points: 0 Karunak...
HI Parsobh:
Maybe there is something wrong in SAP course material.but I made
good receipt using MB31,but PIR was not comsumed.I have set
Mixed MRP=2".

why...

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 618
not comsumed
Questions: 17 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 9:49 AM
Registered: 3/22/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 924
Hi,

Both in the case of 10 and 11 sales order are for only display
purpose.

for 10 Pir's are reduced during GI against Saled order.


for 11 pir's are reduced during GR for production order

Let me explain the steps to be followed in Strategy 11.

Note:
Here the plant stock is not taken into account during net reqmts
calculation.
Prerequisite:
1.Strategy 11 f for Fert material
2.Mixed MRP Indicator 2 in MRP 3 View.
3.Availability check w/o Replnishment lead time in MRP 3 View(02)

Flow:
1.PIR for FERT Reqmts Type BSF / Reqmt Class 102
2.MD02/MD04.
3.Gross reqmts planning will be seen in MD04.
3.Planned orders can be converted. ie Proc before sales order is
possible
4.Availability check according to ATP logic during Sales order
Processing.
5.When a GR is made for production order PIR'S will be reduced.
6.old quantities can be accessed via Goto---> Schedule line history or
using total display reqmts.The qty received will be dislayed in
withdrawl field.
7.VA01 Create sales order Reqmts Type KSL / Reqmts class 30
8.sales order does not create reqmt , only for display purpose.
Regards,
nandha

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 1,018 not comsumed
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 9:49 AM
Registered: 9/1/06 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,874
Kevin,

What is the PIR requirment type... it should be "BSF" check and let
me know.

Regards,
Prasobh

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 69
not comsumed
Questions: 21 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 10:02 AM
Registered: 5/21/07 in response to: S Nanda
Forum points: 0 Kumar

Hi S Nanda:
question and answer:
1.My PIR type is BSF,but what is Fert material?
2,I have set Mixed MRP =2
3,I did not use VA01 to create SO,I used MD81 to create customer
requirement instead.
4,Availability check according to ATP logic during Sales order
Processing
----is this setp necessary?I did not do this step..
5.When I did a GR,PIR's was not reduced.
7.I create customer requirement using MD81 with Reqmts type
KSL/class 30
what's the real reason...?

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 618
not comsumed
Questions: 17 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 10:05 AM
Registered: 3/22/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 924
Hi,

Check for consumption mode and consumption period.

Regards,
nandha

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 1,074
not comsumed
Questions: 7 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 10:05 AM
Registered: 3/14/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,874
Hi,

When you are creating customer requirement from MD81 then make
sure the requirement type must have maintain "KSV".

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Message was edited by:


TAJUDDIN MOHAMMED

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 1,018
not comsumed
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 10:13 AM
Registered: 9/1/06 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,874
Kevin,

You need not create Sale order or Customer requirement create as


these are Standalone as far as strategy 11 is concerned. It does not
affect Production Planning.

Please forward the screen shot of MRP3 view of the material master.

Regards,
Prasobh

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 90
not comsumed
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 10:14 AM
Registered: 6/25/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 76
HI,
In straetgy 11, PIR will consume only after GR of production order .
flow is
1.MD04 - convert planned ordr onto prd ored
2.CRT Prd ord, REL,CNF --here 101 movement done and PIR will
reduce.
Pre-quisite:
1. Str 11
2. Mixed MRP 2
3. Req type and Req class proper
4.Production order must be confirma and do the GR

Regards
siddhesh

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 69
not comsumed
Questions: 21 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 10:42 AM
Registered: 5/21/07 in response to: Prasobh
Forum points: 0 Karunak...

Hi Prasobh:
MRP3 view like below

Strategy group 11 Make-to-stock prod./gross reqmts plnning


Consumption mode Bwd consumption per. 0
Fwd consumption per. 0 Mixed MRP 2
Planning material Planning plant
Plng conv. factor Planning matl BUnit

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 32
not comsumed
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 11:00 AM
Registered: 3/4/07 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 42
hi
in strategy 11there is no planning for sales.customer req type is ksl
.there is no planning for customer requirements in ksl type .
award points if useful.

Regards
N.Ramesh

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
Posts: 1,018
not comsumed
Questions: 0 Posted: Jun 28, 2007 11:46 AM
Registered: 9/1/06 in response to: Kevin Gao
Forum points: 1,874
Kevin,

Couple of changes i would suggest to do in Material master MRP3


view,

1. Change the consumption mode to "2" - Backward/Forward. (If the


PIR does not exits for backward period it can still consume from the
forward period).

2. Maintain consumption period "999" days for both forward and


backward. (If the PIR date is different from also it should consume)

Now you do a reversal of the GR and then try GR again it should


consume now.

Reward your points and close this thread,

Regards,
Prasobh

Hi PP
experts,

Please let
me know
the steps
to be
carried out
for SOP
cycle.

Thanking
you in
advance

regards,

Mona
Tiwari
Ramanujan
Chitr...

Posts: 506
Questions: 2
Registered: 3/30/07
Forum points: 1,130 Top of Form
Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 5:52 AM
in response to: Mona Tiwari
Posts: 211
Questions: 13
Registered: 5/8/07 Hi ,
Forum points: 328
Kindly give me your mail ID,I have got some documents regarding the
flow for SOP.

I can mail you.

Thanks & Regards


Mangal

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 5:58 AM
in response to: Mona Tiwari
Posts: 35
Questions: 19
Registered: 1/29/07 Hi Mangal,
Forum points: 0
My mail id is mona.tiwari@in.bosch.com
please send the mail aslo to mail id --- deokule.rd@in.bosch.com

regards,

Mona tiwari

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 6:25 AM
in response to: Mona Tiwari
Posts: 211
Questions: 13
Registered: 5/8/07 hi Mona,
Forum points: 328
Please check your mail box.
I have sent the document.

If it's useful reward your points.

Thanks & Regards


Mangal

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 6:48 AM
in response to: Mona Tiwari
Posts: 35
Questions: 19
Registered: 1/29/07 Hi PP experts,
Forum points: 0
In SOP cycle , data is flowing to long term planning and then to
COPA.
I need specific tcodes to be run for this.
Here the output of SOP is dependent requirements of the down level
components and we also can transfer the activity volumes to the cost
centres.

I am interested in knowing specific steps to be carried out for the


above data flow.

Link for SAP Library will give the overall subject knowledge not the
specific required steps.

regards,
Mona Tiwari

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 7:03 AM
in response to: Mona Tiwari
Posts: 41
Questions: 9
Registered: 5/24/07 HI Tiwari
Forum points: 0
Can you forward the document to my mail id pp.shankar@gmail.com

shankar

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 7:11 AM
in response to: Mona Tiwari
Posts: 90
Questions: 0
Registered: 6/25/07 Hi Mona,
Forum points: 76
SOP- comes from SO76 standard information structure.
1. MC87 - ctreate data
2. MC78- copy version
3.MC88- change version
4.MC74- transfer to DM
--------------
5.MD02- Run MRP
6.MD04- Stock req list
--------------
Then production order conversion
1.CRT
2.REL
3CNF
4.TECO
-----------

Regards
Siddhesh

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 7:53 AM
in response to: Mona Tiwari
Posts: 16
Questions: 3 Hi Mona,
Registered: 6/14/07
Forum points: 14 Pl. follow the steps given below:

(1) Create product group & its hierarchy & extend material at a plant
level in product group hierarchy - T.code MC84 & MC85

(2) Break down product group & material in product group hierarchy
giving the Aggregation factor & Proportion.

(3) Disaggregrate the product group plan (MC76)

(4) Transfer product group planning to Demand management (MC75).

You can see the plan transferred in Demand management (MD62)


with the respective version.

Regards,

Ranjeet

Regards,

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 8:37 AM
in response to: Mangal
Posts: 35
Questions: 20
Registered: 11/30/06 hi mangal,
Forum points: 4 plz send sop flow to me also nag_007@cooltoad.com

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 6:50 PM in response to: Mona
Tiwari
Posts: 618
Questions: 17
Registered: 3/22/07 Hi,
Forum points: 924 1. Create Product group in tcode MC84.
Enter Plant, Base Unit,choose Materials as Product Groups.
2. Enter the Member name , plant and Proportion Factor and Save.

3. Create Production Plan in tcode MC81.


Enter the Version Number and enter.
Now In row against Sales enter qty and choose that line and goto Edit,
create Prodn Plan synchronus to sales and save.
4. Create Rough cut Planning Profile in tcode MC35 / enter the product group
and plant and execute

5. Enter the Status ,Usage , from lot size , to lot size and enter.

6. Now Choose the first line and choose Blue lens and choose work center as
your capacity bottle necks.
7. Enter the qty as 1ex
8. Now in MC82 check the capacity situation.
Choose inactive version and select your version.

9. Now goto Views ---> capacity situation ---Rough Cut Planning---> show
and check for any over loads.
10. Change the inactive version to Active version in tcode MC78.
Enter your inactive Version and target version as A00 and copy and save.

11. Go and Check the activated version in MC82 displayed as Active Version.
Goto extras ---> Transfer to Demand Management
12. Enter your Active Version and choose Transfer Now.

13. Now Goto MD62 and check whether reqmts have been transferred.

14. MD02/MD04

15. Planned orders will be created.

https://www.hostlogic.hu/caghelp/Navigation/908.htm

Regards,
nandha

Re: SOP Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 6, 2007 1:13 PM in response to: Mona
Tiwari
Posts: 41
Questions: 18
Registered: 5/25/07 Hi Manjal,
Forum points: 0 can u please send me th same documnets to me also.

sapksr@gmail.com

Hi PP
Guru's,

Please
give
the
differen
ce
betwee
n
MD04
&
MMBE
and
also
provide
merits
&
Demeri
ts of
these
2. Is
this the
standa
rd
Tcode
?

Thanx
in
advanc
e

Regard
s,

Vimalb
alaji
Mangal

Posts: 211
Questions: 13
Registered: 5/8/07
Forum points: 328
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Re: question : Difference
between MD04 & MMBE
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 3:35
PM in response to:
vimalbalaji

Dear Rajaraman,

After MRP run the stock/requirement list can be viewed in


MD04-Stock/Requirement list.

As the name tells first it shows you the stock and followed by
the various MRP elements like planned orders,production orders
,open orders and other elements.

In this in the front page you will be able to see2 tab pages
Individual/Collective access.
Using individual access you check the Stock/Requirements list
for an individual material.

Using collective access you check for a MRP controller or using


options listed in that screen.

You use this T code to view the stock of a particular material-


MMBE-Stock overview.
In this u will be able to find the various stocks for same material
and their respective quantity.
Stocks like unrestricted stock,Quality
inspection,Reserved,Recpt reservation.

I dont understand what you mean by merits & demerits.

They both are 2 different T codes used in PP module and they


are used when in need.

I hope this will be helping you.

Please reward suitable points.

Regards
Mangal

Message was edited by:


Mangal

Prasobh Karunak... Re: question : Difference Reply E-mail this post


between MD04 & MMBE
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 3:39 PM
in response to: vimalbalaji

Vimal,

Both the transactions are standard SAP ones, and most frequently
used by MM/PP persons.

MMBE - Shows you only the stock details relevant for a material
along with open order qty for purchase material.

The main advantage here is that you can see the stock status of the
material through out the SAP client. i.e Across
companycode/plants/storagelocation/batch.

MD04 - This is basically an evaluation report where we get all the


reciept elements , Issue element, Stock relevant for MRP(No split up).

The disadvantage of this is you can see only for a Plant / Material
combination. The advantage is you can use the tree overview to drill
down to the next BOM level details.

Hope this helps....

Regards,
Prasobh

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: question : Difference Reply E-mail this post


between MD04 & MMBE
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 3:48 PM
in response to: vimalbalaji
Raj,

MMBE is from the Inventory Management perspective -Just gives the


detailed stock status for a material in under various categories like
Unrestricted, Quality Insp, Blocked, Reserved, Returns, etc.... The
stock is diaplyed at Batch/ Valuation Type level and under each
speacial stock categoty wise. It gives a total glimpse of the stock
situation for the particular material.

MD04 is from the Planning perspective. Here the stock status is from
planning perspective and hence would be cummulative of all the
stock types which are relavant for MRP. It shows how the stocks will
be utilized. What are the requirements that would look for the stock.

MD04 is helpful for the planner. MMBE is useful for all - especially the
Inventory Manager.

Hope you are fully clear now.

Ram

TAJUDDIN Re: question : Difference Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED between MD04 & MMBE
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 3:50 PM
in response to: vimalbalaji

Hi Vimal,

Just to add further with Prasobh, MD04 is dynamic stock reqireemnts


list which change frequently with updates from so many linked
transactions and this represents the current stock at plant level with
data of all future incoming receipts and issue like PO and sales
orders. So you will be having the view of current and future updates
at once from the MD04 list.

From MMBE you will get only stock view at various levels like stoarge
location, batch numbers etc butyou will not get the future receipts
data like incoming purchase orders etc.

The best answer is given by Prasobh. So request you to rewards max


points Prasobh and close this thread.

Reagards
TAJUDDIN

Prasobh Karunak... Re: question : Difference Reply E-mail this post


between MD04 & MMBE
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 4:16 PM
in response to: TAJUDDIN
MOHAMMED

Tajuddin/Vimal,
Thank you buddies,

Regards,
Prasobh

Hi PP
Guru's,

Please
explain
me abt
DRP ,
Tcode
and
configu
ration
setting
s etc..

and
give
me
which
scenari
o it is
used ?

Thanx
in
advanc
e

Regard
s,
Vimalb
alaji
Mangal

Posts: 211
Questions: 13
Registered: 5/8/07
Forum points: 328
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Ramanujan Chitr... Re: What is DRP? Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jun 29, 2007 4:02 PM
in response to: vimalbalaji

Vimal,
Briefly DRP is about planning and distributing the stocks for variuous
locations geographically. DRP is rarely used and is a failure with SAP.
APO does the job better.

Ram

TAJUDDIN Re: What is DRP? Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED Posted: Jun 29, 2007 5:15 PM
in response to: vimalbalaji

Running DRP

Purpose

In DRP, during the net requirements calculation, the system


compares available stock and the scheduled receipts from the supply
source with planned independent requirements and incoming sales
orders. If there is a material shortage (available stock is less than the
quantity required), the system creates an order proposal.

The system calculates the quantity recorded in the order proposal (in
the form of a requisition) based on the lot-sizing procedure you
specify in MRP 1 of the material master record.

The system also schedules the order proposal. Delivery and release
dates are determined from the transport time and time associated
with goods receipt processing.

The system can process DRP for the whole supply chainincluding
the production plants. DRP includes production and purchasing into
the planning process for the production plant.

Prerequisites

In order to perform a DRP run, you must:

Set up a distribution network, including identification of quota


arrangements and lead times.
Define MRP parameters in the material master record for all the
materials in the distribution network.

Process Flow

You schedule the DRP runs for your network in the same way you
would schedule an MRP run.
You perform the DRP run:
A DRP run on one material is the same as single-item, single-level
planning in the MRP run. Because the deployment plan involves
finished goods, there is only single-material, single-level planning of
individual materials without explosion to lower levels.

A DRP run on one plant is the same as total planning in the MRP
run. Single-plant planning involves planning all the materials in a
certain location that are relevant for requirements planning.
A DRP run using mass processing allows you to process several
locations at once so that the whole supply chain is planned.

You use net change planning to plan only materials that change
relevant to distribution requirements planning since the last planning
run (for example, change in a sales order quantity or date). Net
change planning improves system performance for large, complex
distribution networks with many materials. If a material is changed in
a way that is relevant to the planning run, it is given a net change
indicator, and included in the next planning run.
Performance can be improved even further by using the change
planning within the planning horizon. Only changes relevant to
requirements planning that fall within the user-defined planing horizon
are included in the planning run. To keep the planning results up to
date, perform a total planning run regularly (weekly or monthly).

You can also use regenerative planning. The system plans all
materials that are relevant for planning. Regenerative planning is
performed in the implementation stages.

If you are using mass processing, determine the sequence in which


the series of DRP runs must be executed.

Result

The information resulting from the DRP runs includes purchase


requisitions and scheduling agreements. Use these to plan how to
supply the distribution centers in your network. The DRP run in the
DCs creates releases for stock transport requisitions in the supplying
plants. A DRP run on the supplying plants creates planned orders for
production.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Difference between firming Reply E-mail this post


types
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 9:25 AM

Hello Experts,

Since I am newbie, my question may be too obvious.

What is the difference between firming type 0 and 4, and between 1 and
3?

As I see that in the difference between 1 and 3 is:


In case of 1 only the order proposals which date lies at least one day
before the end date of the planning time fence are created, but with date
after PTF. That means that order proposals on the last day of PTF are
ignored? What is the logic?

Thanks in anticipation,
Artashes

TAJUDDIN Re: Difference between Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED firming types
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 9:32 AM
in response to: Artashes
Kradzh...

Hi,
Firming type0: No firming to receipts, only applicable to MPS parts to
diffrenciate between normal MRP iteams PD and MPS itesm. M0. No
firming.

Firming type1:: An order proposal that lies within the planning time
fence is firmed automatically as soon as its date lies at least one day
before the finish date of the planning time fence. The date of new
order proposals that are actually created in the planning time fence
are rescheduled out to the end of the planning time fence. Therefore,
these new order proposals are not firmed

Firming2: An order proposal that lies within the planning time fence is
automatically firmed as soon as its date lies at least one day before
the end of the planning time fence. The system does not create any
new order proposals within the planning time fence. That is, the
shortage situation is not adjusted within the planning time fence.

Firming type3: Order proposals that lie within the planning time fence
are not firmed automatically. The order proposals required to cover
the requirements are moved to the end of the planning time fence

Firming typ4: Within the planning time fence, the system creates no
order proposals automatically. That is, the shortage situation is not
adjusted within the planning time fence.

If helps rewards points.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: Difference between Reply E-mail this post


firming types
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 9:48 AM
in response to: Artashes
Kradzh...

Artashes,

Your query about "the order proposals on the last day are not firmed"
Let's say the order date start date is 15.07.2006. Now let's say the
planning time fence ends on 16.07.2007.

When the current date is 15th then the planned order would get
firmed automatically. Th word used is "atleast". So even order start
date on 16 will also get firmed.

Hope it is clear.

Ram

Artashes Kradzh... Re: Difference between Reply E-mail this post


firming types
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 1:45 PM
in response to: Ramanujan
Chitr...

Thank you very much for such comprehensive a answers, but still I
have questions.

Am I right that, for example, instead of using M0 with PTF=7 days, I


can use M2 with PTF=8 days and this will have the same effect?

In that case, why we complicate our life, and add firming type 2.

And another one, I still can't understand the difference between M0


and M4.

If it is possible, could you please explain me that in detail?

Regards,
Artashes

TAJUDDIN Re: Difference between Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED firming types
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 1:53 PM
in response to: Artashes
Kradzh...

Hi,

All firmings types are different as per the functionality. With M0 there
will be no firmaing...this MRP type is just to diffrentiate MPS and
normal MRP parts..this will be replica of PD. PTF have no influnce
with MRP Type M0.

With M2...All receipts elements will be firmed if there dates is atleast


one day vefore the PTF (working day) from the day of the MRP. and
MRP will not create any new proposals within PTF if requirements
comes. Outside PTF requirements proposals will be created.

Aagain with M4 no order proposals will be created within PTF and no


future order proposals will be firmed if they pass into PTF...M0 again
no firming. this is the diffrence between M0 and M4.

I suggest you run some planning tests with all firming type for one
part. You will come to know the diffrence.

If helps please close this thread or inform for any more question.

regards
TAJUDDIN

Artashes Kradzh... Re: Difference between Reply E-mail this post


firming types
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 2:09 PM
in response to: TAJUDDIN
MOHAMMED

Ok, Now it is clear (almost).

Thank you very much!

Thread is closed.

Hi
Gurus
can
anybo
dy
explai
n me
the
diffren
ce
betwe
en
Daily
requir
ement
s and
Individ
ual
reqmt.
which
are
used
in
avalab
ilty
check
in
MRP3
view
of
materi
al
master
.
thanks
in
advan
ce
kk
S
Nanda
Kumar

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Re: diffrence in daily req
and indiv. req
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 8:02 AM
in response to: Kedar
Kulkarni

Hi,

For ex if a 2 sales order comes today for same material then in MD04
it will
be shown as cumulated qty if you set the availability check as daily
reqmts.(01)

Two sales order will be shown separately if you set availabilty check
as individual reqmts.(02)

Regards,
nandha

Suhas Somani Re: diffrence in daily req Reply E-mail this post
and indiv. req
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 8:04 AM
in response to: Kedar
Kulkarni

Hi Kedar,

If you set 01 as a daily requirement in stock requirement list (MD04) u


can see the total requirement in a day.
If u set 02 as a individual requirement in stock requirement list will
show the requiremnt individually.So that we can can see the
requiremnt of each order seperately.

It will help u.
Regards,
Suhas

Kedar Kulkarni Re: diffrence in daily req Reply E-mail this post
and indiv. req
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 8:05 AM
in response to: S Nanda
Kumar

Hi nandha
but why it is in avalability check?
regards
kk

S Nanda Kumar Re: diffrence in daily req Reply E-mail this post
and indiv. req
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 8:10 AM
in response to: Kedar
Kulkarni

Hi,

For this check only you are linking the order type in checking control

Availability check during order creation /order release

Regards,
nandha

Suhas Somani Re: diffrence in daily req Reply E-mail this post
and indiv. req
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 8:48 AM
in response to: Kedar
Kulkarni

Hi,

In scope of check checking group and checking rule are assigned,


Again checking group is assigned in MRP 3 and checking rule is
assign to checking control.i.e. PP. Material is being checked as per
setting in scope of check during order creation & order release. Also
as per setting in checking control.
If u enter 01 system will carryout availbility of material where 01 group
& checking rule is assigned in scope of check.

Regards,
Suhas

Hi,
can
any
body
tell me
how
system
create
resche
duling
date &
excepti
on
messa
ge in
md04, i
created
two
orders
from
MRP
run,i
am
having
capacit
y
( aviala
ble),
though
system
generat
e the
messa
ges for
resc-in
&
excep
no.10.

Pl
explain
with
exampl
e
Regard
s,
Basant
Gobi
Kannan

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Questions: 2
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Re: MD04
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 12:40
PM in response to:
Basant Saxena

Hi

It all depends on your requirements date. for exIf your req date is
01.05.07 and u r running MRP on 10.05.07 ,system will schedule by
using forward because the starts date will be in the past( sts SAP
settings).That time system will give exeption message as 10 bring the
process forward .

Hope this will be ok.

Gobi

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: MD04 Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 2, 2007 12:40 PM
in response to: Basant
Saxena

Basant,

The procurement prosals which are firmed example prod order or


firmed planned order are given the resch-in exp message if a reqmt
exits on a given date but the order finish date is at a later date.

System identifies it as a receipt elemenet but gives an exception to


the MRP controller to reshedule in.

It has nothing to do with the capacity availability. Jst for your


information system ignores capacity availability during MRP run.
You can however check the cap availability.
For new planned orders the dates proposed would be as per
requirement.

Same is the case with existing purchase orders.

Hope you are clear.

Ram

TAJUDDIN Re: MD04 Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED Posted: Jul 2, 2007 12:51 PM
in response to: Basant
Saxena

Hi Basant,

This is nothing to do with capacity. These exception messages are


created in the planning run to have attention of the MRP controller to
adjust/re-run the planning.
Exception message 10 will be created for the firmed receipts only
firmed planned orders/ PRs OR to the PO) as per the scope of check
define in the resheduling horizon in customizing (transaction OPPQ).

In your case, the requirements are before the receipts elements PO's
dates (which are within resheduling horizon). Now MRP asking to
bring forward (reschedule in) the receipts in order to cover the
requirements.

This is to avoid the new requirement proposal to the requirement


(here MRP will not create additonal receipts...you can create
manually) and avoid extra inventory at the time of requirements
dates.

If any question then please inform

Regards
TAJUDDIN

S Nanda Kumar Re: MD04 Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 2, 2007 1:03 PM
in response to: TAJUDDIN
MOHAMMED

Hi,

Tolerance Value Forward 2 days


Tolerance Value For Displacement 2 days.

Tolerance value for bringing forward receipt elements:


Number of workdays used by the system to create a rescheduling
proposal in the planning run to bring forward a firm receipt element
that lies after the requirements date.

Procedure
The system compares this value with the number of days which
results from calculating the difference between the requirements date
and the delivery/order finish date.

If the difference is greater than the comparison value, the system


provides the receipt elements in question with an exception message
and a rescheduling proposal that is based on the requirements date.

Tolerance value for displacement in the future


Number of workdays used by the system to create a rescheduling
proposal in the planning run to displace firm receipt elements that lie
before the requirements date.

Procedure
The system compares this value with the number of days which
results from calculating the difference between the delivery/order
finish date and the requirements date.
If the difference is greater than the comparison value, the system
provides the receipt elements in question with an exception message
and a rescheduling proposal that is based on the requirements date.

This Tolerance value you will be giving in OPPR /OPPQ.


Reqmts Date : 05.07.2007
Order Finish date: 09.07.2007.
Firmed Receipts: 06.07.2007.
Exception messages will be displayed as 10.

The reverse is other case.

Regards,
nandha

Basant Saxena Re: MD04 Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 2, 2007 1:14 PM
in response to: Basant
Saxena

problem has been solved

Individual/Collective Reply E-mail this post


Requirements
Posted: Dec 6, 2006 3:46 PM

Hello!

I need a fair idea about how exactly individual/collective requirements


work as i have a particular scenario for our business where i need the
system to adopt a particular path for BOM Explosion.

Regards

Kaashif M

Srinivas Ponangi Re: Individual/Collective Reply E-mail this post


Requirements
Posted: Dec 6, 2006 4:23 PM
in response to: Kaashif
Mujeer

Hi

In the mass processing function for production orders, you can check
the material availability of several orders at the same time. These
collective availability checks always carry out an overall availability
check for each of the orders.

You can check production orders or planned orders in this way. As


with individual checks, the checking rule is determined via the order
type (production orders) or the MRP group / plant parameters
(planned order).

regards

Srinivas

Kaashif Mujeer Re: Individual/Collective Reply E-mail this post


Requirements
Posted: Dec 7, 2006 9:24 AM
in response to: Srinivas
Ponangi

Hi Srinivas,

It was really nice to hear from you, actually our requirement goes like
this....

FG's have "Blank" entry in the Individual/Collective Indicator (as good


as "1" i.e. individual requirement, so whatever sales order or project
requirements generated are transferred as individual requirements)

When it comes to child items in the BOM of FG,

If i maintain 1 in the Individual/Collective Indicator the system will


propose Purchase Requisition/Planned order individually for all the
dependent requirements WITHOUT CHECKING THE STOCK IN THE
PLANT and WILL ALLOCATE THE REQUIREMENT WITH AN
ACCOUNT ASSIGNMENT.

If i maintain 2 in the Individual/Collective Indicator the system will


propose Purchase Requisition/Planned order collectively for all the
similiar dependent requirements of Projects/Sales orders AFTER
CHECKING THE EXISTING STOCK IN THE PLANT( propose
Procurement for the remaining requirements....am i right?) AND I
WILL NOT HAVE THE ACCOUNT ASSIGNMENT IN THE
PURCHASE REQUISITION/PLANNED ORDER.

So if u can suggest me how i can have the system to propose a


procurement proposal for child items where the system can check the
available stock for dependent requirements and allocate account
assignments for the remaining procurement proposals individually.

Regards

Kaashif M

vijai prasad sh... Re: Individual/Collective Reply E-mail this post


Requirements
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 12:14 PM
in response to: Kaashif
Mujeer

Please some one answer for the above scenario

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: Individual/Collective Reply E-mail this post


Requirements
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 12:25 PM
in response to: Kaashif
Mujeer

Vijai,

As per std SAP if the indicator is 1 then stock will be checked agisnt
that special stock only. It is not possible to have the account
assignment as E and also check the stock in general category.

I had a similar requirement for which I got developed a Z fucntionaility


which runs after std MD50 and finds the stock in general category
which is available and attaches the stock to the sp stock and cancels
the planned order by the amount attacehd. It is a highly complicated
development.

Ram

TAJUDDIN Re: Individual/Collective Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED Requirements
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 12:29 PM
in response to: Kaashif
Mujeer

Hi Kaashif,

This indicator controls whether individual or collective customer


requirements planning is allowed for dependent requirements.

If you define individual requirements for explosion, dependent


requirements for a component are shown individually on the superior
low-level code.

If you define collective requirements for explosion, required quantities


for the material are summarized independently of the sales order.

As per my thinking if the header part is MTO with individual


requirements then all dependent parts must be with the same settings
in order to link the account assignments in PO...we should not use
collective requirements.

Regards
TAJUDDIN
Message was edited by:
TAJUDDIN MOHAMMED

Suhas Somani Re: Individual/Collective Reply E-mail this post


Requirements
Posted: Jul 2, 2007 3:04 PM
in response to: Kaashif
Mujeer

Hi Kaashif,

Usually individual/collective indicator is used in MTO scenario.If u


enter 1 or no enry in material master of component, customer stock of
that component will be created.System will check stock only in
customer stock, so no material is available. so system will create
purchase requisition.
If you want to consider the component for order, set indicator 2 .
Means system will check stock of component if stock is available PR
will not be created.No customer stock will be created.

Simply indicator 2 is used to act a component as a make to stock in


MTO environment.

This will clear your doubts.


Regards,
Suhas

dear gurus,

during mrp if
the bom is
not
exploding
what will be
the reasons
for that?

please
explain it
was asked in
an interview

-gide
Senthilkumar
SD

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Re: no bom explosion
duing mrp???
Posted: Jul 3, 2007 10:55
AM in response to: gide

Hi Gideon,

For the BOM status MRP explosion should be selected for bom to
explode.

The BOM must be valid on that particular date.

Regards,
SDS

S Nanda Kumar Re: no bom explosion Reply E-mail this post


duing mrp???
Posted: Jul 3, 2007 10:58 AM
in response to: gide

Hi,

For Bom explosion to takes Place first the Bom Status should be
active for
Mrp.

In OS23 check whether MRP Explosion check box is

enabled.

Bom item shouls have valid area and period of validity.

Bom components should be relavant for production


We have to maintain selection id for priority for bom usage in define
order of priority of Bom Usage.
Regards,
nandha

Mangal Re: no bom explosion Reply E-mail this post


duing mrp???
Posted: Jul 3, 2007 11:02 AM
in response to: gide

Hi Mr.Gide,

Let me tell you some reasons,which's because of the settings in


front end.

1.The BOM's valid date might be a reason.

2.The BOM's status might be made inactive.You can make it


inactive by clicking the header,and changing the BOM status to
2.
3.If you are using ECN,With release key for BOM's ,if it's not
released BOM will remain invalid.
Thanks & Regards
Mangal

TAJUDDIN Re: no bom explosion Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED duing mrp???
Posted: Jul 3, 2007 11:08 AM
in response to: gide

Hi,

1) BOM status must be active in the BOM header data.(CS01)


2) BOM usage must be relevent for production. (OS20)
3) BOM explosion indicator must be enabled for MRP (OS23).
4) Selection of BON ID must have BOM usage indicator assign
(OS31).

Apart from the above settings MRP4 view of BOM explosions must
meet the selection criteria like BOM selection by prod lot, or if you
maiantain prod version then seelction by prod version etc, other wise
BOM will not be selected.

During MRP run if if you have planning mode 1 "adjust basic dates"
then BOM will not be exploded for the existing planned
orders/PRs...only if you have new requirements. With planning mode
2 and 3 BOM always exploded.

If helps rewards to suitable answers and close this thread.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Maheshbabu M G Re: no bom explosion Reply E-mail this post


duing mrp???
Posted: Jul 3, 2007 11:19 AM
in response to: gide

Hi Gide,

Also please check that the BOM Lot Size " From" & "To" is matching
your requirement quantity.

Regards

Mahesh

Mangal Re: no bom explosion Reply E-mail this post


duing mrp???
Posted: Jul 3, 2007 12:08 PM
in response to: gide
Hello Mr.Gide,

I hope you must have got sufficient answers from the forum
members.

If so please reward points to all the answers which helped you &
close the thread as answered.

Thanks & Regards


Mangal

Neupl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 6, 2007 11:39 AM

How neupl will trigger MRP. What are the requirements required to
choose NEupl.. can any one please help me out

S Nanda Kumar Re: Neupl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 6, 2007 11:44 AM
in response to: vamsi s
Un
assign
Hi ,
So
lved
problem Regenerative planning is carried out when you are carriying the
(10) planning run for the first time as well as later during the production if
data inconsistency cannot be guranteed due to technical error.
Ve
ry
helpful Regards,
answer nandha
(6)

He
lpful
answer
(2)

S K GANESAN Re: Neupl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 6, 2007 11:47 AM
in response to: vamsi s
Unassig
n
Hi
Solved
problem (10)
NEUPL - regenerative MRP will be triggered through online MRP or
Plant level in the initial stage of implementation - ie for the first time
Very only.
helpful answer
(6)
In a regenerative planning run, the system plans all materials which
Helpful are included in the planning file irrespective of all indicators
answer (2) You use the planning run type (Processing key indicator in the initial
screen of the planning run) to determine which materials are to be
planned.
Features

There are three different planning run types:

During regenerative planning, all materials are planned for a plant.


This makes sense when you are carrying out the planning run for the
first time as well as later during production if data consistency cannot
be guaranteed due to technical error.
The disadvantage of regenerative planning is the fact that the system
has to deal with high capacity loads because all materials are
planned, including materials, which may not be affected by the
planning run.

To overcome this disadvantage, it makes sense during production to


carry out the planning run using the net change planning procedure.
The only materials that are included in the planning run are those,
which have undergone a change relevant to MRP since the last
planning run, for example, because of warehouse issues or sales
orders, changes to the BOM and so on.
The net change planning procedure makes it possible for you to
execute the planning run in short intervals, for example, in daily
intervals. You can thus always work with the most up-to-date planning
result.

You can use net change planning in the planning horizon to shorten
the MRP planning run even further. The system then only plans
materials that have undergone a change relevant to MRP within the
planning horizon. In order to also plan changes outside of the
planning horizon, you must execute the net change planning run in
greater time intervals.
You define the planning horizon per plant or per MRP group in
Customizing for MRP in the IMG activity Define planning horizon. The
planning horizon should be at least long enough to cover the period
when sales orders are received. It must also accommodate delivery
periods and the total lead times of the materials.

In single-item planning, you can only choose between net change


planning and net change planning in the planning horizon.
Regenerative planning is not useful, because the material has already
been defined and does not have to be determined after the evaluation
of the planning file.

The system automatically flags the materials that have undergone a


change relevant to MRP with a corresponding planning file entry in
the planning file (see also Checking the Planning File and Planning
Run Type).

hope this helps

regards
SK

Suhas Somani Re: Neupl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 6, 2007 11:48 AM
in response to: vamsi s
Una
ssign
Hi,
Sol
ved
problem Regenerative planning key is used while taking MRP by MD01.Plant
(10) level or scope of planning.During run system will consider all
materials which are entered in palnning file.It is used while initial run
Ver
y helpful
or if any problem occured.
answer
(6) It increases load on system.So it is not used everytime.
Hel
pful Regards,
answer Suhas
(2)

TAJUDDIN Re: Neupl Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED Posted: Jul 6, 2007 11:55 AM
in response to: vamsi s

Unassign
In a regenerative planning run, the system plans all materials that are
Solved included in the planning file irrespective of all indicators. There is no
problem (10)
special settings requires for NEUPL, same as NETPL and NETCH.
Very helpful
This MRP run recommends to run at the first time after system
answer (6) installation so these will be automatic creation of planning file entries
and planning. OR when the system is berak-down due to power
Helpful failure for longer period of time.
answer (2)

Regards
TAJUDDIN

raj Re: Neupl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 6, 2007 11:55 AM
in response to: vamsi s
Un
as
sig NEUPLis the regenerative planning.
n this type of planning is carriedout at the time of implementation (first
mrp run mfor
Sol
the new plant) or if the system is down since long time .
ve with key planning files entries will be created for all matrls which are
d relevant
pro
ble
for mrp for ex MRP type PD
m
(10
)

Ver
y
hel
pfu
l
an
sw
er
(6)

Hel
pfu
l
an
sw
er
(2)

Hi guys:
between
two lines is
from SAP
course.but
I can't test
it out.
---------------
---------------
---------------
---------------
----
Make-to-
Stock
Production
Gross
Requireme
nts
Planning
(11)
Gross
requiremen
ts planning,
focus on
load on
production.
Brief
explanation
of the
gross
requiremen
ts planning
logic based
on a
numerical
example:
1. Stock 15
pieces,
planned
ind. req. 10
pieces,
procureme
nt? Yes.
Stock is
not taken
into
account.
2. Goods
issue of 7
pieces:
Stock 15
pieces
22 pieces,
planned
ind. req. 10
pieces 3
pieces
(oldest
requiremen
t is
reduced).
---------------
---------------
---------------
---------------
-----
I just tested
,BSF
PIR(strateg
y 11) is not
consumed
by
customer
requiremen
t..
but
strategy 10
LSF can be
comsumed
by
customer
requiremen
t..
Just
why..who
can do it
successfull
y?
Ramanujan
Chitr...

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Re: about strategy 11


Gross Requirement
Planning 11 PIR(BSF) is
not comsumed
Posted: Jun 28, 2007 9:22
AM in response to: Kevin
Gao

Kevin,

Not clear about your question.

Just to clarify in startegy 11 PIR is consumed by goods receipt to


prodcion order not on issue to customer.

Rgds
Ram

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Kevin,

Unable to understand..You said Goods Issue 7 pieces, and also


mentioned that stock increased to 22 pieces.

Hope this was a GR for the production order, if so during GR of the


production order your PIR should get reduced based on the
consumption mode/period set in MRP3 view. Important thing here is
that you need to have "Mixed MRP" = 2 set in MRP3 view itself.

If your question was why sale order PGI consumes PIR incase of
strategy 10, then it is because of the requirement type/class setting
which is defined that way to behave for Customer requirement. You
can see this in Planning strategy defination under "Requirement type
of Customer requirements"

Hope this helps...Reward your points,

Regards,
Prasobh

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Gross Requirement
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Hi,

For 11 strategy PIR is consumed when GR is done &

for 10 strategy PIR is consumed while a delivery is made.

Pl. check the requirement type in the md61 screen.

Regards,
SDS

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Forum points: 0 Karunak...

HI Parsobh:
Maybe there is something wrong in SAP course material.but I made
good receipt using MB31,but PIR was not comsumed.I have set
Mixed MRP=2".

why...

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Hi,

Both in the case of 10 and 11 sales order are for only display
purpose.

for 10 Pir's are reduced during GI against Saled order.


for 11 pir's are reduced during GR for production order

Let me explain the steps to be followed in Strategy 11.

Note:
Here the plant stock is not taken into account during net reqmts
calculation.
Prerequisite:
1.Strategy 11 f for Fert material
2.Mixed MRP Indicator 2 in MRP 3 View.
3.Availability check w/o Replnishment lead time in MRP 3 View(02)
Flow:
1.PIR for FERT Reqmts Type BSF / Reqmt Class 102
2.MD02/MD04.
3.Gross reqmts planning will be seen in MD04.
3.Planned orders can be converted. ie Proc before sales order is
possible
4.Availability check according to ATP logic during Sales order
Processing.
5.When a GR is made for production order PIR'S will be reduced.
6.old quantities can be accessed via Goto---> Schedule line history or
using total display reqmts.The qty received will be dislayed in
withdrawl field.
7.VA01 Create sales order Reqmts Type KSL / Reqmts class 30
8.sales order does not create reqmt , only for display purpose.
Regards,
nandha

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Kevin,

What is the PIR requirment type... it should be "BSF" check and let
me know.

Regards,
Prasobh

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Gross Requirement
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Forum points: 0 Kumar

Hi S Nanda:
question and answer:
1.My PIR type is BSF,but what is Fert material?
2,I have set Mixed MRP =2
3,I did not use VA01 to create SO,I used MD81 to create customer
requirement instead.
4,Availability check according to ATP logic during Sales order
Processing
----is this setp necessary?I did not do this step..
5.When I did a GR,PIR's was not reduced.
7.I create customer requirement using MD81 with Reqmts type
KSL/class 30
what's the real reason...?

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Hi,

Check for consumption mode and consumption period.

Regards,
nandha

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Hi,

When you are creating customer requirement from MD81 then make
sure the requirement type must have maintain "KSV".

Regards
TAJUDDIN

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Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


Gross Requirement
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Kevin,

You need not create Sale order or Customer requirement create as


these are Standalone as far as strategy 11 is concerned. It does not
affect Production Planning.

Please forward the screen shot of MRP3 view of the material master.

Regards,
Prasobh

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HI,
In straetgy 11, PIR will consume only after GR of production order .
flow is
1.MD04 - convert planned ordr onto prd ored
2.CRT Prd ord, REL,CNF --here 101 movement done and PIR will
reduce.
Pre-quisite:
1. Str 11
2. Mixed MRP 2
3. Req type and Req class proper
4.Production order must be confirma and do the GR

Regards
siddhesh

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Forum points: 0 Karunak...

Hi Prasobh:
MRP3 view like below

Strategy group 11 Make-to-stock prod./gross reqmts plnning


Consumption mode Bwd consumption per. 0
Fwd consumption per. 0 Mixed MRP 2
Planning material Planning plant
Plng conv. factor Planning matl BUnit

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


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hi
in strategy 11there is no planning for sales.customer req type is ksl
.there is no planning for customer requirements in ksl type .
award points if useful.
Regards
N.Ramesh

Re: about strategy 11 Reply E-mail this post


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Kevin,

Couple of changes i would suggest to do in Material master MRP3


view,

1. Change the consumption mode to "2" - Backward/Forward. (If the


PIR does not exits for backward period it can still consume from the
forward period).

2. Maintain consumption period "999" days for both forward and


backward. (If the PIR date is different from also it should consume)

Now you do a reversal of the GR and then try GR again it should


consume now.

Reward your points and close this thread,

Regards,
Prasobh

I am
trying
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group
for
SOP
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sage.
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Mess
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no.
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the
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can
anyo
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help?

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ks

Stuar
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Sarita
Doddi

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Re: Unable to create
product group in SOP
Posted: Jun 26, 2007 5:36
PM in response to: MM
Consultant

Is the material type for which you are creating the prod group the right
one? Usually for a product group it has to be material type PROD.
Please check on that

MM Consultant Re: Unable to create Reply E-mail this post


product group in SOP
Posted: Jun 26, 2007 5:47 PM
in response to: Sarita Doddi

Hi,
Thanks for that. The material I was using was created as FERT. I
have created a PROD and all is OK. When I went into MC84 it said
the material group already exists. Is that normal. I am able to go in
and change it and add member materials or groups.

Thanks again

Stuart

Sarita Doddi Re: Unable to create Reply E-mail this post


product group in SOP
Posted: Jun 26, 2007 5:53 PM
in response to: MM
Consultant

If the material you are using for you product group already exists then
you can add/delete members to that group. else you can create a
new product group and add to that group. Basilcaly you can create as
many Porduct groups as you want as long as they are material type
PROD.

Sameer A Re: Unable to create Reply E-mail this post


product group in SOP
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 8:50 AM
in response to: MM
Consultant

Hi...

I am also facing the same problem. When I create Product Group


directly from MC84 then it gives the same error message M3749.

However when I first create a product group in MM01 and then go to


MC85, then it allows me to edit the Product Group created in MM01.

My question is that can't we create a Product Group directly in MC84.


If yes then why is it giving message M3749. Is there any
customization required in Plant/Material?

regards

Sameer
netpl Reply E-mail this post
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 7:59 AM

in mrp controll key netpl


what is mean by planning horizon and if we process with this key
for what horizon it will take for mrp run

Suhas Somani Re: netpl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 8:13 AM
in response to: raj

Hi,

It is a processing key. It is used to consider the materials which are


undergone change related to MRP within planning horizon. Set
planning horizon in plant parameter. If u set 100 days means system
will consider materials which are undergone change related to MRP
within 100 days only.Changed materials before that period will not be
considered.
Hope it will clear your doubts.

Regards,
Suhas

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: netpl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 8:15 AM
in response to: raj

The planning horizon specifies the period for the "Net change
planning in the planninghorizon.

In this kind of net change planning, only those materials that have
undergone a change that is relevant to MRP within the planning
horizon are included in the planning run. Such materials receive a net
change planning indicator in the planning file.

You make this specification for a plant. You can define an alternative
planning horizon for MRP groups.

The length of the planning horizon should include at least the


following:

o the period in which sales orders are received

o the delivery periods

o the total lead times of the materials

PLanning horizon is set in transaction OMDX.


Ram

ramesh narayana... Re: netpl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 8:22 AM
in response to: raj

hi,
you set the planning horizon in IMG under overall maintainence of
plant parameters(tcode OPPQ).this represents the number of days for
which mrp will do the planning.this is one of the 3 processing keys
you use in controlling mrp.this value netpl is set in Tcode MD02 under
control parameters and saved before running the mrp.
Award points if useful.

Regards,
Ramesh

TAJUDDIN Re: netpl Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED Posted: Jul 5, 2007 8:55 AM
in response to: raj

Hi Raj,

The planning run type controls the scope of planning, that is, it
defines which materials are to be planned:

Net change planning (NETCH) or Net change planning in the


planning horizon (NETPL): The system only plans materials that have
undergone a change relevant to MRP since the last planning run .

You can also use a planning horizon to further limit the scope of the
planning run. In "net change planning in the planning horizon", the
system only plans materials that have undergone a change that is
relevant to the planning run within the period which you defined as
the planning horizon (transaction OPPQ). The system sets the net
change planning horizon indicator automatically for these materials.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: netpl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 9:17 AM
in response to: raj

Hi Raj,
This is the processing key control the MRP .
NETPL is net chanhe planning , this data is given in OPPQ- MRP
plant parameter , here you define that these are the number of days
consider within which the materil is undergoned changes from last
planning run.

If you are giving 100 days within these days the system will planned
only those materils which are changed menas there stock, any MRP
type, lot size procedure etc.

This furthe you reduce by giving NETCH- i.e net change planning in
planning horizon.

And one more NEUPL- regenrative planning, it plan all materil , this
type is used mostly in the initial stage once the project is implimented.

Regards
Siddhesh

Prasobh Karunak... Re: netpl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 9:30 AM
in response to: raj

Folks,

As far as NETPL is concerned the planning file entry for the material
would be dynamic,

1. It looks at whether there is an MRP relevant change in the planning


horizon period(Days).

2. Also checks whether any new requirments are coming into the
planning horizon at the begining of the day as the start date is always
from today so the end date will be changing accordingly.

Let me explain this with an example,

Assumption

System date - 05-July-2007


Planning horizon - 10days
All days in a month are working days.
PIR for daily requirement through out the month. (Requirement on
every day)
No MRP relevant changes for the material today and MRP has run
with NETPL and given procurement proposals till 14-July-2007.

Now there are no MRP relevant changes and now If we run the MRP
with NETPL tomorrow will it create a procurement proposal for 15-
July-2007. To me yes it should as the planning horizon is moving
and there is a requirement which is coming into the planning
horizon

Folks correct me if I am wrong,

Just to add MRP run with NETPL goes with selecting material in
the planning file were an entry for "NETPL" exists, what i was
trying to expain is the logic how planning file entry is getting
created for NETPL.

Regards,
Prasobh

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Added comments in the last

Prasobh Karunak... Re: netpl Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 11:32 AM
in response to: raj

Raj,

Please close the thread rewarding full points if you got the answer to
the query.

Regards,
Prasobh

difference between 10/40/50 Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 7:48 AM

dear gurus,

what is the difference between strategy 10/40/50.if anybody explains it


will be useful for the begginers

-gide

Ramanujan Chitr... Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


10/40/50
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 7:59 AM
in response to: gide

10: Net requirements calculation is based on the formula:

Receipts + Stock - Issues

40: Same as above but the difference is that if sale order qty is
more than the requirement qty (PIR) then additional receipts are
planned (addition planned order qty).
In both 10 & 40 the PIRs are reduced on goods issue to delievry.

50: PIRs are entered for the final assembly. On MRP - Final
assembly planned orders are not convertible to prod orders.
However the lower level assemblies planned order are convertible to
pord/ pur req. Final assemble produced only on rceipt of sale
order. Advantage is that the components are procured earlier and
kept ready before sales orders arrive.

Ram

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


10/40/50
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 8:23 AM
in response to: gide

HI,
Strategy 10: Net requirement planning - MTS
i. This strategy is is used in FMCG sector -like seasonal product, ice
cream, beverges etc.

ii. In net reqirement calculation the wharehouse stock is considered.

iii. PIR will reduce after GI for the sales order.

iv. The main object of this strategy is to smooth the production

Strategy-40
This strategy is called planning with final assembly - MTS
1. The PIR will reduice as soon as sales order came.
2.sales order that exceed PIR can influence the production but in
startegy 10 sales order not influenc ethe production.
3.PIR allocate during sales order processing.
4. The main objective of this strategy is to fulfil the demad from
customer as they react.

Strategy50: This is planning without final assembly- MTO


1.This is used the scinario like , the final product is ready once the
sales order came, before that all the component assembly must be
ready. So all component assembly are ready once the sales order
came final assembly start to produce.
This i sto avoid the dealy and react with customer earlier aslo reduce
the FG inventry cost.
2. Unless and untill the sales order not came the planned order will
not convert into production order , because it is VP type.

Hopes it will cleaer , for more clearification plz see the sample
scinario from SAP labray.

Regards
Siddhesh

TAJUDDIN Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED 10/40/50
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 9:33 AM
in response to: gide

Hi,

10 and 40 are MTS and 50 is MTO.

Strategy 10: This planning strategy is particularly useful in mass


production environments. You should choose this strategy if you want
production to be determined by a production plan (Demand
Management) and if you do not want sales orders to influence
production directly.Strategy 10 is used for products with seasonal
demand where production needs to be smoothed.

Strategy 40: This strategy is probably the most widely used make-to-
stock strategy. It makes sense to use this planning strategy if you can
forecast production quantities for the final product.

Planned independent requirements are consumed by incoming sales


orders so that the master plan is always adjusted to suit the current
requirements situation. This means that the important feature of this
planning strategy is that you can react quickly to customers
requirements.

Stratrgy 50: Use this planning strategy when the main value-added
process is final assembly. This strategy and Planning with a Planning
Material (60) are probably the most widely-used strategies in a make-
to-order environment. Like all make-to-order strategies, you should
use strategy 50 if production is unique for each and every customer;
in other words, it is not possible to change the stock for different sales
orders.

Each startegy has unigue settings like item categories in sales/org


view. availability check and consumption strategies in MRP3 view.

If any further question then please inform.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

raj Re: difference between 10/40/50


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 10:18 AM in response to: gide

flow:
mm01----mrp view 03--- startegy group
strategy 10 : make to stock production (lsf)
strategy 40: plan with the final assmly(vsf)
the planning upto the final assy with out the consideration of sales order and basedon the fo
strategy 50: plan without final assmly (vse)
here only value added final assmly is planned on sales order
but the prodution is complted with out the final assmy

Kedar Kulkarni Re: difference between 10/40/50


Posted: Jul 5, 2007 11:47 AM in response to: gide
hi
plz use following link

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/cb/7f9b7043b711d189410000e829fbbd/fra

thanks
kk

raj Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


10/40/50
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 12:42 PM
in response to: gide

IF YOU CLEARED CLOSED THE THREAD PLS

Shirish Kulkarni Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


10/40/50
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 1:01 PM
in response to: gide

Straregy 10
is pure make to stock strategy.Sales order is not generating any
demand plan or it has no effect in demand management.PIR are
consuming the after the delivery for sales order.Net requirement is
calculated by formula
Plant stock-safety stock
receipts-issues.
Strategy 40
Strategy 40 make to stock with final assembly.This is the most useful
strategy.This has combination of make to stock and make to
order.Here customer requirement as well as PIRs have effect on
production plan.PIRs consume sales order as per consumption mode
and consumption period.I will explain you working of this stratgy.
PIR-150qty
CR-100qty.
System will generate planned order of 150.It will consume PIR of 100
after delivery and PlR of 50 will remain as it is.
Strategy 50
Planning without final assembly MTO
In this strategy availability check is done against PIRs.
With help of PIRs planned orders can generated for all levels.Planned
orders of header material i.e. of final assly. are not convetible to
production order.These oeder has status VP i.e. firmed orders. You
can do procurement of all materials except final assembly.Once we
received sales order these vp type of orders are get converted to PE
type that much equal to sales order qty.You can convert these
planned orders in to production orders.
Customers wise stock is maintaned. Costing is done as per make to
order stratgy i.e. against sales order.Plant stock is not considerd for
planning.

Hope you will get detail idea about these strategies.If satisfy ,please
reward the points.

Shirish

VIJAY Re: difference between Reply E-mail this post


10/40/50
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 1:51 PM
in response to: gide

Hi

40 - Make to stock and if you want sales to influence your production.


This startegy is most widely used.

Means if you have PIR of X qty, and U get a sales order , if sales
order qty exceeds or less than your PIR qty

10- MTS , stock +receipts - issues

In MD04 you will see planned order no / Ind req

50 - MTO but without final assy.


After MRP, you will see all planned order created and can be
converted to production order except final assy. This can be done
once you have sales order is in place. then run MRP after sales order,
the sales order will consume the PIR and then will be able to convert
to production order

In MD04 , the planned order against sales order will be planned order
no / sales order- means this planned order is for that sales order

hope you are clear

regards
Vijay

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Maheshbabu M G Re: What is the difference Reply E-mail this post
between Strategy group
10 and Strategy group
11 ?
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 2:18 AM
in response to: Suren R

Hi Suren,

In Strategy 10 system will take the opening balance into account


and net of the requirement.
In strategy 11 , system will not take the stock in hand & will create
procurement proposals for the demand ( with out considering the
surrent stock). With this strategy type the "Mixed MRP" field in the
MRP 3 View of material master needs to be set as "2".

Example:
Stock: 20 Kg
Demand : 50 Kg.

Strategy 10 : will create a planned order for 30 Kg.


Strategy 11: will create a planned order fro 50 Kg.

Reward points if useful.

Thanks & regards

Mahesh

S Nanda Kumar Re: What is the difference Reply E-mail this post
between Strategy group
10 and Strategy group
11 ?
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 3:10 AM
in response to: Suren R

Hi,

1. In strategy 10 the system considers the plant stock during net


reqmts calculation whereas in the case of strategy 11 the system
does not consider
the plant stock.

Ex : Plant Stock 100 pcs


Demand 200 pcs

In strategy 10 Planned orders will be created for 100 pcs during


MRP Run.
In strategy 11 Planned orders will be created for 200 pcs during
MRP Run.

2. Reduction Of PIR:
In the case of Strategy 10 Goods issue for Delivery reduces the PIR
In the case of Strategy 11 Goods Receipt for Production order
reduces the
PIR.

3. A separate Segment Gross Reqmts Planning will appear in the


case of
Strategy 11.

4. We need to set the Mixed MRP Indicator as 2 ie


Gross reqmts Planning in Material Master MRP 3 View for Planning
Strategy 11.

5. For strategy 10 Reqmts type is LSF and AFor Strategy 11 the


reqmts Type is BSF

Regards,
nandha

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: What is the Reply E-mail this post


difference between
Strategy group 10 and
Strategy group 11 ?
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 7:11 AM
in response to: Suren R

Strategy 10: Net requirement planning


i. This strategy is is used in FMCG sector -like seasonal product, ice
cream, beverges etc.
ii. In net reqirement calculation the wharehouse stock is considered.
iii. PIR will reduce after GI for the sales order.

Strategy 11.
i. This startegy is used in mass production envirnment like cement ,
steel industry iresepetive of warehouse stock ,becoz in steel ,
cement industry once the killen or furnaces start it will be continue ,
coz it takes lot of time to start and lot of fuel ..
ii. In this strategy PIR will reduce at the time of GR of production
order
iii.The system will not consider the warehouse stock means
comparision of PIR with the plant stock, irrespective with plant stock
it calculte the net requirement.
iv. You have to set MRP mixed indicator 2. i.e gross requirement
planning in MM01 of MRP view

Hope you will clear..


Regards
Siddhesh
MRP 4 Reply E-mail this post
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 1:25 PM

Hi,
can any body tell me the immportance of indi/collec indicator, & can we
plan finished product with mrp type PD, component with vm, if we run
mrp for finised product , can it plan for component too, if not what will be
the setting.

Regards,
vs

Re: MRP 4 Reply E-mail this post


Posted: Jul 4, 2007 1:30 PM
in response to: vivek singh
Posts: 506
Questions: 2
Registered: 3/30/07 Vivek,
Forum points: 1,130
Ind/coll indicator is for grouping different special stocks into a single
lot in general stock category. That means the stock are not assigned
and planned inidividually for every sale order separately. All sales
order requirements are collectively planned and procured in the
general stock category.

Individual requirements
Requirement quantities of the dependent material are stated
individually.

Collective requirements
Requirement quantities of the dependent material are grouped
together.

Regardong your second question . No running MRP on Fg material


will not plan the VB material. VB material planning is based on
consumption/ stock levels. If the stock falls below the reorder point
then a PR is raised. You use MD03 or MD01 for planning VB
materials. It is possible to run MRP with MD01 only for the VB
materials by using the user-exit key for selecting only the materials
with MRP type VB.

Regards
Ram

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Posted: Jul 4, 2007 1:35 PM
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Registered: 6/25/07 Hi Vivek,
Forum points: 76 Indivudual requirement:
I will give one example if you have three sales oredr and the raw
materil requirement for each sales order is 10 p/c.
IF you set indivudula requirement : then after MRP there are three
Purchase / planned order for that raw materil , you v=can se thi s in
MD04 stock requirement list
2. Collective req: For above same planned oredr if set collective req
in MRP the system will show you only one Purchase / planned oreder
for that raw materil i.e 30 p/c in MD04 stock req list

If u run MRP as PD then it plan for its low level component i.e it
srequirement also.
this is the concept of MRP
NET requirement calculation.
for more detail you can ask also..
Hope u clear
Regards
Siddhesh

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Posted: Jul 4, 2007 1:39 PM
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Indiv/collec indicator is useful in case only if the material is assigned
as a BOM component and that component is being used for
production of Header materials which are of MTO nature.

Incase you want to always combine these dependent requirements


for ordering then with "1" - Individual indicator it is not possible, here
you need to use "2" - Collective so that material can be bought with
referance to anaymous stock(Unrestricted stock) and issued from
there.

Incase you want to track and procure only based on sale order or
project system referance it is advised to use "1" - Individual
requirement so that system creates a separate customer stock/project
stock requirement. In this case the stock of the material which comes
in goes as special stock with indicator "E" or "Q".

Question 2:

Planning of components with "VM" is independent as it does not


consider the dependent requirement from the finished product for
planning(You can have this material as component, but the demand
from higher level will not influence its plan). If you want system to
consider the dependent requirements also then you should work with
MRP type "V1" or "V2".

Hope this helps....Reward your points and close this thread,

Regards,
Prasobh

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Posted: Jul 4, 2007 1:49 PM
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Indi/collective requireemnt indicator:
This indicator controls whether individual or collective customer
requirements planning is allowed for dependent requirements.

If you define individual requirements for explosion, dependent


requirements for a component are shown individually on the superior
low-level code.

If you define collective requirements for explosion, required quantities


for the material are summarized independently of the sales order.

2) Yes you can plan finished part with PD and component with VM but
for the VM MRP type you must have past consumption data (real time
inventory) so the MRP will set the automatic reorder level in MRP run.
You should have lot size procrdure HB with max stock level value in
MRp1 view for the VM MRP type materials.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

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Posted: Jul 4, 2007 3:14 PM
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Hi Taju,
Forum points: 0
(If you define individual requirements for explosion, dependent
requirements for a component are shown individually on the superior
low-level code).
where we have to see

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Posted: Jul 4, 2007 3:16 PM
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Registered: 3/14/07 Vamsi,
Forum points: 1,874 Yes, if the dependent requirements MRP4 indicator is blank then
these requirements will be planned as per the settings of the superior
material (header material).

If any question then let me know.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

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If your problem is resolved please reward points for answers which
helped and close this thread.

Regards,
Prasobh

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Posted: Jul 4, 2007 5:27 PM
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Hi Siddheshwar,
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I CREATED TWO ORDERS WITH DIFFERENT DATES , & DID
SETTING IN MRP 4 VIEWS FOR FINISHED & RAW- MATERIAL
BOTH, BUT SYSTEM IS CREATING TWO PLANNED ORDER WITH
INDIVIDUAL REQUIREMENT

PL suggest
basant

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With Individual requirement system is expected to created 2 planned
orders only. What is the expectation you have?

I have a doubt... your ID says Vivek Singh and you sign Basant? Is it
ok? or some proxy happening.

Regards,
Prasobh
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i created two sales orders & putted 2 in material master of RM, after
mrp run it is creating two PR for RM , i set str. 20 in FG materail
master, is there any other setting required, pl suggest.

Prabosh by mistake my friend put his name in signing because he


was typing the matter, so there should not be any misunderstanding.

Regards,
Basant

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Since the requirement date is different system is proposing 2 different
PR's for the raw material.

The difference here when compared to using "1" is that the


requirement generated is not with account assignment,

whereas when you used "1" it must have been with referance to the
sales order and with account assignment "E".

My assumption here is that you are using "EX" as the lotsize for the
raw material.

If you need single PR for week or month then you can use lotsize
"WB" or "MB" with "2"-collective indicator in the MRP4 view of the raw
material. Now what system does is it consolidates the requirement for
week/month and release single PR for Week/Month.

Hope this should clarify all your doubts....Reward full points and close
this thread, if you have any further questions please open a new
thread,

Regards,
Prasobh

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Posted: Jul 5, 2007 11:36 AM
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Forum points: 0
my problem is solved.
vivek

Hi PP
Gurus,
How i can i
define
MRP for a
final
product(X)
that have a
dependent
requiremen
ts BOM ,
and whose
component
s are X,Y,Z.
Let say X,Y
are
externally
procured, Y
is internal
procureme
nt.
Now my
question is

1)How to
run MRP
for a final
product
and what
are all the
settings
required in
MRP1,2 ,
3,4 in
material
master and
spro

2) what are
MRP
settings
required for
the final
product(X)
and
internal
procured(Y
),
Externally
procured
(X,Y).

3)what is
the MRP
Procedure
X Means.

Can any
one please
explain in
detail
Ramanujan
Chitr...

Posts: 506
Questions: 2
Registered: 3/30/07
Forum points: 1,130
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Re: Regarding BOM and
MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 1:42 PM
in response to: vamsi s

Vamsi,

The settings for the Finished goods are dependent on the Planning
strategy you are going to adopt. For example for MTO strategy:

MRP Type = PD
Lot Size key = EX
MRP Controller = Mandatory entry
Procurement type = E (For inhouse production)
Strategy grou p = 20.

The above are the bare minimum settings required.

Now for the compoennets. The MRP type could be PD or VB based


on whether it is bsed on requirements or consumption.

Procurement type X means both internal and external procurement is


possible.

The MRP type X refers to only BoM explosion in the SAP system.
The planning is done in an external system.

That is a planned order is created with prroc type X. Depending on


the situation the MRp controller could either convert it to PR or Pro
order.

Remember if the subassembly is always going to be proceured


externally then it makes sense to set the proc type to F. Similarly for
Inhouse as E. If it could be either way then it would be X.
The planning stragty for components would be as per higher level
assembly unless otherwise it is specified.

Hope this helps you.

regards
Ram

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MOHAMMED MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 1:43 PM
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Unassign

Solved Hi,
problem (10)
For finished part (X) with BOM keep procurement type X or E.
Very helpful
Planning strategy 40 or 10 . For internal procured part again same
answer (6) wither E or X. For external procured part the rocurement tye should
be F. All in MRP2 view.
Helpful
answer (2)
All must have valid MRP type PD with suitable lot size procudure like
EX in MRP1 . In MRP 4 in BOM selection criteria keep blank.

Run MRP from MD02 with 1/3/1/1/3 controlling parameters for the
final part (X) with NETCH key...you will get the planned orders...which
can be convertable to PRs and POs as per the procurement type.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Siddheshwar Raj... Re: Regarding BOM and Reply E-mail this post
MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 2:12 PM
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Solved
problem (10)
Hi ,
Very
You are saying that X, Y are externally procured and Y is internal
helpful answer procurment means
(6) is you are taking X and Y from external vendor and again Y is internal
procurment?
Helpful
answer (2) 1.Normally you have set MRP type PD, Lot size EX, MRp controller is
there.
2. and you have to set X for both inhouse / external procurment
3.MRP procedure is wheather it is MRp, MPS or consumption based
planning like RO point planning etc.

Normal MRP- Materil requirement planning


MPS- For costly item
Consumption based planning: for raw materil where you required
mass amont like nut, bolts washer, cotton waste, etc for which you
are using Reorder point planning, repl planning

Hopes it is clear
Siddhesh

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MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 2:33 PM
in response to: vamsi s

Hi Taju,
can u briefly explain me 1/3/1/1/3 . How it reflect MRP

TAJUDDIN Re: Regarding BOM and Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 2:51 PM
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Solved Vansi,
problem (10)

Very helpful
Create purchase requisations is 1 and 3 is create planned order.
answer (6) Create delivery schedule 3 if scheudling agreement exists. If not then
planned order will come
Helpful Create MRP list 1.
answer (2)
Planning mode 1: ..Adopt planing data...with planned orders will come
new requirements or existing orders will be adjusted if any change.
The last one is actually 2 (scheudling mode) you can use this 1
(Adjust basic dates) also. I made this mistake in earlier answer.

Regards
TAJUDDIN

Prasobh Karunak... Re: Regarding BOM and Reply E-mail this post
MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 3:20 PM
Solved
in response to: vamsi s
problem (10)

Vamsi,
Very
helpful
answer (6) If your query is answered please reward points for answers which
helped and close this thread.
Helpful
answer (2)
Regards,
Prasobh

RAKESH SAXENA Re: Regarding BOM and Reply E-mail this post
MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 3:42 PM
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ign

Solve
d problem
hello dear,
(10) I think u nead to put MRP type PD lot size EX in mrp 1 for all & in mrp
2 put 'E' which always made inhouse & 'F' for which always procure
Very
helpful by purchasing if u want to open both options then use 'X' & u have
answer (6)
flexibilty to select it procurement (creat a production order or an
purchase requisition) in MD04.
Helpf Rakesh saxena
ul answer
(2)

vamsi s Re: Regarding BOM and Reply E-mail this post


MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 3:45 PM
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Answered

TAJUDDIN Re: Regarding BOM and Reply E-mail this post


MOHAMMED MRP
Posted: Jul 4, 2007 3:50 PM
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Solved Hi Vamsi,
problem (10)

Very helpful
If the question is answered then we expect max points to rewarded
answer (6) and thread should be closed.

Helpful regards
answer (2)
TAJUDDIN