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Commission Meeting

October 21, 2017

5 THE CITY OF MIAMI NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING


DISTRICT 7
6 SILVER BLUFF TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT

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The City of Miami City Hall
11 3500 Pan American Drive
Miami, Florida 33133
12 Saturday, October 21, 2017
10:20 p.m. - 2:50 p.m.
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2 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Okay. Let's get started,
3 guys. So thank you. Thank you guys all for coming this
4 morning. Obviously, this is a project that has engendered a
5 tremendous amount of discussion, debate, concerns, e-mails.
6 We wouldn't be here having this discussion if we didn't
7 recognize that there was some concerns about how the project
8 looks, and how the project is impacting people at this very
9 moment.
10 I want to start by apologizing to anyone who feels,
11 you know, I've been -- and I say this probably too often,
12 I've been doing this now for close to eight years in
13 November, and, you know, every project that I am involved
14 in, involved in, participated in is done with the upmost
15 sincerity to make the quality of life improvements for
16 everyone. Not for some, but for everyone in a neighborhood.
17 I have been blessed to have worked long enough to
18 know, you know, that most of the projects -- that all of the
19 projects have met that standard, but clearly this one has
20 not. And so to the extent that I have failed in any way, or
21 the City has failed in any way, or we have failed to meet
22 your expectations, I want to apologize.
23 Having said that, you know, this project -- and
24 we'll talk about the project, how we got here, where we're
25 going, and all those things was done with the upmost

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1 sincerity, and with the upmost desire to do for you what we


2 try to do for all, which is to provide a premium quality of
3 life, which is what you all deserve.
4 So let me just start by thanking you all for taking
5 the time on a Saturday to join us for this public meeting.
6 For those of you who don't know me, my name is
7 Francis Suarez. I'm a City of Miami Commissioner for
8 District 4, which is where most of Silver Bluff resides in,
9 some of Shenandoah or most of Shenandoah as well, I know
10 there are some people here from Shenandoah.
11 Today's meeting concerns traffic calming in Silver
12 Bluff and in particular, it concerns proposed changes to the
13 22nd Avenue corridor. Obviously, as I stated, I know
14 there's been a lot of discussions around this project, and
15 particularly regarding the temporary delineators that we
16 installed back in July. The purpose of today's meeting is
17 to provide information, and obviously to receive input from
18 all of you about the future of 22nd Avenue and Silver Bluff.
19 Just to give you a little background on how we are
20 going to proceed with the agenda, we're going to have a
21 little bit of background and then we'll cut through the
22 problem and overview of some of the attempted solutions,
23 some history on the 22nd Avenue project, and then we're
24 going to have a discussion on how we move forward.
25 Today, we have several agencies and officials

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1 represented, and I want to acknowledge them and thank them


2 for their hard work. Just generally, they work very, very
3 hard, and they have the same objectives that we have, which
4 is to make your lives better. We have our city planning and
5 capital improvement department here representative director,
6 and we have some staff member as well. We have -- I think
7 we have -- I haven't seen Collin, but I think we have -- or
8 we're going -- okay, sorry, buddy. Collin from our
9 department of transportation. We also have from Miami-Dade
10 County Director of Public Works and Transportation,
11 Alice Bravo, along with her top deputy, Darlene Fernandez.
12 And we will be joined shortly by
13 Commissioner Bruno Barreiro, who I think should be arriving
14 soon.
15 We also have the current traffic engineer, that is
16 working on the current study of 22nd Avenue, here to answer
17 questions. Obviously, he is here to listen as well. And
18 that person is here, as well our traffic study consultant.
19 As the presentation goes on, I may ask then to explain
20 things, elaborate, get technical explanation. My hope is to
21 sort of get through the presentation, and then obviously
22 take questions, comments, concerns.
23 There's obviously a lot of people here today, and so
24 I want to be respectful of your time, and, you know, I am
25 willing to stay here as long I have to stay here, and I'm

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1 willing to do as many community meetings as I have to do, in


2 whatever capacity I have to -- to get to the point where we
3 feel satisfied with where we're going with this project.
4 What we are trying to address in Silver Bluff, and
5 we've been trying to address in Silver Bluff, is the extreme
6 cut-through traffic on neighborhood streets. Obviously, it
7 has had an extremely negative impact on safety and quality
8 of life, and as far as we can see, it goes back at least to
9 2005, if not before 2005 -- probably before 2005, because
10 the first study that we have been able to dig up is a
11 traffic-calming study from the year 2005, which usually
12 indicates that there have been complaints before that. We
13 hired somebody, et cetera, et cetera, so we know that -- we
14 know that these problems have persisted for at least
15 12 years in the neighborhood.
16 I attribute a lot of these problems, and this is my
17 sort of perspective, not only being a city Commissioner, but
18 also being the vice chair of the transportation planning
19 organization, which looks at transportation in a holistic
20 fashion county wide. So I see these issues, not only at the
21 micro level, the neighborhood level, the street level, but I
22 also see them in the aggregate. And in my -- in my opinion,
23 we're seeing a lot of cut-through traffic in our
24 neighborhood because of three macro things: One is
25 population growth. We've reached a population tipping point

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1 in Dade County. We've got close to three million people, 97


2 to 95 percent of which are using their cars to get to and
3 from work every single day. Not carpooling, not using
4 transit, using cars. Miami-Dade Expressway Authority tolls,
5 they have issued what they call closed the system, which
6 means that they now toll on every single entrance and exit
7 of the Miami-Dade Expressway Authority. What that's done is
8 allow people who work on hourly wages, that approximate
9 minimum wage, can no longer afford to pay, you know, $20 a
10 day or $30 a day to use our expressway to get to and from
11 work. It's just not economically viable. And so we're
12 seeing a flood of more people on our neighborhood streets,
13 since that phenomenon occurred.
14 You have apps. I'm sure you have heard of them or
15 seen them or maybe use them. One is called Waze in
16 particular, but even the normal, you know, Waze finding app
17 that you have on your phone, pushes people to save time
18 through our neighborhoods, and that is increasing the
19 neighborhood traffic tremendously. And we have, like I
20 said -- like I said before, a limited amount of east-west
21 transit options, which are obviously not alleviating some of
22 the issues that I just described.
23 There's another parochial phenomenon that I think is
24 part of the culprit for why we're here today and part of the
25 reason why things have gotten so contentious, and that is --

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1 and there's a correlation in time between the -- between the


2 Florida Department of Transportation 27th Avenue Median
3 Project, which was done in 2000 -- done in 2007. I thought
4 it was done in 2005, actually, but it could be -- could be
5 that this slide is -- I thought it was done in 2005. So I
6 thought there was a correlation between the traffic study
7 that we did initially and a lot of the cut-through traffic.
8 Part of the reason why it created a problem was because as
9 you can see, the dots in green are the intersections that
10 were left open to making lefts from 27th Avenue. The dots
11 in red are the areas that are closed, and so what you see is
12 when you talk about funneling, this project has been a lot
13 about funneling and talking about funneling. A lot of the
14 funneling and part of the reason why there's been so much
15 anger about cut-through traffic on 27th Avenue has been
16 from -- we can go back -- has been from a project that we
17 don't control, an entity that we don't control, which is the
18 Florida Department of Transportation, 22nd Avenue project.
19 That has unfortunately created huge traffic volumes in a lot
20 of the streets that the 22nd Avenue project blocked.
21 So what are some of the solutions that we have
22 attempted so far? After the 2005 study, which recommended a
23 comprehensive traffic circle plan -- and let me just explain
24 that. Different traffic control devices have different
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1 example, a traffic circle, which a lot of people don't like,


2 is very expensive, is meant to reduce people from running
3 stop signs. That's the objective. Okay. And so they
4 put -- they're put in intersections because they are a
5 physical impediment to someone continuing to go straight,
6 you know, in either -- in an intersection. And so when you
7 get complaints from people constantly running stopping
8 signs, that's often times what we will recommend.
9 That study -- do you have the slide with the actual
10 neighborhood itself? That study represented a variety of
11 the traffic circles. The blue ones are the ones that are
12 actually installed, correct?
13 So it's actually more -- and the ones that are --
14 the ones that are -- they're not up there, correct? Okay.
15 So the study recommended a series of traffic circles. We
16 completed and built about 75 percent of the traffic circles
17 that were recommended in that 2005 study.
18 Traffic circles, like traffic tables, require two
19 things: They require what's called neighborhood condensing,
20 and that's done in two different ways. One is the street
21 that's affected by a traffic circle, or the traffic table,
22 has to have half the vote, 60 percent roughly, or two-thirds
23 in favor of the device. And then the circle or table that
24 touches that intersection, or that those homes -- those
25 homes in that intersection have to vote 100 percent for that

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1 device to be implemented. And so sometimes we have a plan,


2 for example, and the traffic tables also show sort of a plan
3 that we have developed with the County to reduce cut-through
4 traffic and slow people down, because remember, we're
5 dealing with multiple phenomenon. One moment -- one
6 phenomenon is the bulk of the cars, the amount of cars. The
7 second phenomenon is the speed at which those cars drive
8 through our neighborhoods. And so the traffic tables are a
9 physical impediment to speed. You cannot, in theory, you
10 cannot speed up a certain amount because you're going to run
11 into a physical impediment. So the ones that are in X or in
12 red, are the ones where we have not yet received
13 neighborhood concurrencies. The ones in green, with the
14 checkmark, we've either already received neighborhood
15 concurrencies or they've already been built.
16 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: They are in process.
17 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: They are in the process of
18 being built if not already built, right? So we have
19 received approval from the County, not only for those
20 traffic circles, but for those speed tables.
21 We've also achieved from the County -- and I want to
22 thank our county officials who are here because we've worked
23 tirelessly with them for many years, and in the case of
24 Ms. Blanco, she's a city employee on a memorandum of
25 understanding, where we would have two things -- which is

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1 two things. One is the least restrictive standard that any


2 city has given in Dade County, we would receive what I call
3 a most favored nation clause. So that if a wealthy area,
4 for example, Pinecrest, or anything other area, has a lower
5 standard to get a traffic control device, we would
6 automatically inherit that standard. And the second is,
7 that we -- before we used to have to request of the county
8 permission to put them, and they -- because of the standards
9 and for whatever other reason, were rejecting about
10 75 percent of our requests. Now, after we signed the MUO,
11 we've gotten approval on about 66 percent of that rejected
12 75 percent under the new standard which, by the way, is the
13 Miami Beach standard. It's the one that we're proceeding
14 under right now.
15 We've also achieved a city wide speed limit
16 reduction in residential neighborhoods from 30 miles per
17 hour to 25 miles per hour, which is significant and
18 something that other cities have gotten in Miami-Dade
19 County. The problem that, obviously, it requires
20 enforcement, which is a resource that is a limited resource,
21 and my opinion, just my opinion, is a little more of a
22 Band-Aid than it is a permanent solution. We've also
23 received permission to have no left turn access on
24 27th Avenue and 23rd Street, 24th Terrace and obviously we
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1 project.
2 There are other things that we've asked for but not
3 received. One of the things we asked for but not received
4 was on 19th Avenue and US-1, we asked that that be blocked,
5 because people come into the neighborhood from US-1 and
6 19th Avenue, and then use that to cut through the
7 neighborhood. That has not been approved by the Florida
8 Department of Transportation. The other thing that we asked
9 for was on 22nd Avenue and US-1. There is a queuing backup
10 on the left turn on 22nd Avenue and US-1. You have not
11 enough queuing and so we had asked that because right now,
12 it's configured to one left turn and two straight turns into
13 an immediately merging street in Coconut Grove. What we
14 asked for was if we could make two left turns, which would
15 increase the queuing and it would reduce the traffic at a
16 time that people would take to cross 22nd Avenue and get
17 into US-1, in only one street lane because it's going into a
18 neighborhood, and by the way, has a ton of restricted access
19 and is not a population center.
20 So let me get into a little bit of a brief history
21 on 22nd Avenue. In conversations with the residents -- and
22 I know that there have been a lot of discussion on apps like
23 Nextdoor about whether enough people were informed, whether,
24 you know -- and look, again, you know, I can't go back in
25 time. What I can do is focus on today and tomorrow. I can

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1 tell you that there was every sincere effort by my office,


2 and I would also say by the homeowner's association, even
3 though many people don't want to hear that, to invite as
4 many people to be part of the discussion as possible, and I
5 will tell you that, you know, hundreds of people, rooms
6 similar to the size that we have here today, maybe a little
7 less, but hundreds of people have attended multiple
8 community meetings on this project in the past.
9 That doesn't make it right, it doesn't mean it's
10 right. I'm just saying that there have been significant
11 attempts to discuss this project with the public in the
12 past. We will take whatever attempts are needed to continue
13 to discuss this project with the public today and in the
14 future to make sure we get this right.
15 But the two priorities that became clear were
16 beautification and traffic-calming. One in particular was a
17 project that was done in Coral Gables on Segovia from -- in
18 terms of beautification, the beautification aspect of it.
19 From Segovia from Third to about Coral Way, it has two large
20 traffic circles and has a beautiful, wide median, and it has
21 beautiful oak trees in the center. One of the residents
22 that came to me early on and said, you know, that he felt,
23 you know, that when you left something to grow and you went
24 into Silver Bluff -- when you left Coconut Grove and you
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1 if felt like you were going into another country in the


2 sense of the median.
3 It seemed like it was -- it was not well landscaped,
4 it was not lush and green and so you're kind of in a quality
5 of life perspective, your weren't in the same experience.
6 And that really hit home to me because I'm someone that kind
7 of likes to fight for the underdog, and it often times would
8 bother me, and I know, not calling who the person is, it's
9 somebody that works -- worked for public works in the city
10 Nextdoor, a beautiful city, and we were worried -- it would
11 upset us when some people would say, you know, said this
12 other city is so beautiful and so well landscaped and then
13 we always seem to be step behind. And so that was part of
14 what motivated me to start looking at this project and
15 thinking about this project.
16 How we got here. The City has commissioned three
17 separate traffic studies. One in 2005, one in 2012, and one
18 in 2017, that reaffirmed that cut-through traffic is a real
19 problem in Silver Bluff. In all of the discussions that we
20 had agreeing, disagreeing, I don't think that anybody
21 disagrees that cut-through traffic is a problem in Silver
22 Bluff. I think that the debate and the discussion is how to
23 deal with it.
24 The 2012 study and the 2017 study were specifically
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1 recommended a leading expansion, left turn closures, and


2 traffic circles to help beautify and mitigate traffic in the
3 area.
4 The next slide shows the counts in the a.m. and
5 p.m., and you'll see the those big spikes are on
6 23rd Street, 26th Street, and 24th Terrace. 23rd Street,
7 24th Street, 26th Street, both in the a.m. and in the p.m.
8 In the p.m., you got 22nd Terrace and 26th Street that are
9 also spiking up. Next slide.
10 The areas that had less traffic in these studies
11 were 23rd Terrace and 24th Street.
12 (Audience reaction.)
13 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys, guys, this is what the
14 traffic study says.
15 AUDIENCE MEMBER: What's this guy mean?
16 AUDIENCE MEMBER: This is the old study.
17 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: This is the 2016 study, okay?
18 So skip the next two slides. So the 2006 study recommended
19 a preferred alternative. A preferred alternative. The '16
20 study had a preferred alternative, which closed the median
21 and most intersections and added large traffic circles at
22 23rd Terrace and 25th Street.
23 AUDIENCE MEMBER: We had recommended that? By who?
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Traffic studies recommended
25 that. The traffic engineers recommended that.

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1 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I'm sure they don't live there.


2 (Audience reaction.)
3 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys, right now what we're
4 doing, we're informing you and giving you information.
5 You're going to have plenty of time to tell what you feel,
6 how you feel, what your perspective is, and what your
7 opinions are, trust me.
8 So before moving forward this -- this alternative,
9 we decided to temporarily -- and I stress the word
10 "temporarily" restrict access to test the effects of closing
11 the median in this fashion. The temporary closures do not
12 replicate other advantages of the project. They just give
13 us the ability to collect data on how traffic would be
14 redistributed as a result of the permanent project.
15 Unfortunately, due to the school schedule and
16 Hurricane Irma, the post closure counts wouldn't be made
17 until last week. We did not -- and I'll take responsibility
18 for this, we did not want to do traffic counts when children
19 were not in school because that would undercount the volume
20 of cars. We also did not -- I did not feel comfortable
21 counting the cars when you had massive piles of debris,
22 because that would also undercount the volume of cars. So I
23 thought the fair thing to do in terms of making sure we
24 understood exactly what the volume was, was to get those
25 things straightened out before we took the count. I wanted

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1 to be faithful to all the residents in Silver Bluff and to


2 make sure that we got an accurate a count as possible.
3 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Excuse me, Commissioner, just this
4 week alone was the Waze was called in anonymously saying
5 that there was a traffic jam right in front of my door. I
6 live on 25th Street, one of opened streets. There was no
7 traffic jam. There was no counters. All made up.
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So ma'am, we don't control
9 Waze, and you're going to have plenty of time to talk. What
10 scares me is if I open the floor to you, I have to open it
11 to everyone else.
12 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, I understand.
13 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: And I want to make sure that
14 everyone has an opportunity to speak, so I want to be fair
15 about that.
16 So the limitations of the temporary project, and I
17 admit there are many limitations to the temporary project,
18 including some that are not on this list, by the way. The
19 delineators do not mimic many of the current project's most
20 important elements. It doesn't mimic the road dye, it
21 doesn't mimic bike lane, it doesn't mimic a tree canopy, it
22 doesn't mimic large traffic circle, and it doesn't mimic
23 future traffic devices on 23rd Terrace and 25th Street, and
24 it's ugly.
25 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes.

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1 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Very ugly.


2 AUDIENCE MEMBER: They're very ugly.
3 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So those are the limitations.
4 These are the advantages, okay? The advantages of the
5 temporary project are as follows: The cost is lower, and
6 I'll give you an example. The temporary project to mimic to
7 the extent that we mimic, it cost the city $30,000. The
8 permanent project cost $2.5 million. Okay. So -- so I
9 think it's smart not to spend $2.5 million in the permanent
10 project, to make this permanent, before testing to see what
11 kind of an impact it had on you all. And we did that, at a
12 very, very low cost. By the way, we actually replaced
13 $8,000 of the poles, because someone ripped out the poles
14 with a hammer.
15 (Audience reaction.)
16 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: And by the way -- by the way,
17 we had an obligation to do that as part of our covenant with
18 the County. We have an obligation to maintain them while
19 they're up. And so that cost already costs the taxpayers an
20 extra $8,000.
21 So now, we're going to talk about the future, which
22 is hopefully, what I hope most of you are here to talk
23 about, because can't change the past. We can only change
24 the present and the future. And so that's what we should be
25 focusing on, because at the end of the day, we're here to

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1 make our neighborhood better.


2 But I will say a couple of things, I will say a
3 couple of things because I think it's important for me to
4 say this. I represented this district that stretches from
5 17th Avenue to 22nd Avenue, east to west. It's involved
6 many, many, many neighborhoods and we've have done many
7 traffic control projects over the eight years that I've been
8 a Commissioner. Almost never in a room of this size are we
9 going to walk out with 100 percent consensus, okay?
10 So I hope no one here expects that whatever decision
11 is made, is made with 100 percent consensus because no
12 decision will ever be made with 100 percent consensus.
13 Having said that, it is important to get feedback from the
14 community and it is important to listen to neighbors who are
15 being affected. And I think it's because of that, neighbors
16 that came to talk to me. Neighbors that brought me a
17 petition that were affected very, very negatively by this
18 project, that I defunded the permanent project, which was
19 going to be funded in the capital budget of the City of
20 Miami to about 50 percent of it's full amount, about a
21 million 250,000, and I moved the money out of the project
22 and put it into reserves for other projects, or for whatever
23 ends of happening with this project or whatever the
24 community wants to do in the future.
25 So I would like to think that I have listened to

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1 those who are in favor, and I've certainly listened to those


2 that are against, and I've taken action conforming with some
3 of the concerns that making this project permanent would
4 create a major permanent problem for many people in the
5 community. So part of what we're here to discuss is what
6 changes can we make to the permanent project. What changes
7 can we make to the project generally, in order to make the
8 project better, Okay?
9 Here are some examples. These are not all of the
10 examples. This gentleman met with me in my office and he
11 had a very good example. There are a plethora of things
12 that we can do potentially to try to mitigate this, resolve
13 it, et cetera. But these are just some.
14 One is the testing the closure of the medians on
15 23rd Terrace and 25th Street. What that would do is that
16 would prevent cut-through traffic also on 23rd Terrace and
17 25th Street. That would, in my opinion, reduce the
18 cut-through volume significantly for everyone, okay?
19 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Everyone in Silver Bluff.
20 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Not Shenandoah or surrounding
21 neighborhoods.
22 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I'm not saying that is what we
23 are going to do. That is an option.
24 AUDIENCE MEMBER: It's nonsense.
25 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Let him finish, be polite.

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1 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: That is an option, guys. So


2 that's an option. That option requires, in my opinion, two
3 things, three things. The first is to the maximum extent
4 possible and reasonable, the community buy-in in that
5 option, Okay? That's Number 1.
6 Number two, which may be more critical than Number 1
7 in some cases, but they have ultimate control, is that the
8 County has to agree to that option. And I would submit that
9 there's a third thing, which is that we have to make sure it
10 doesn't unfairly burden other neighborhoods.
11 (Audience reaction.)
12 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: And by the way, the current
13 study right now is measuring the counts on the streets in
14 Shenandoah so that if there are any changes that are made in
15 this project, we can measure what kind of an impact, if any,
16 it may have on Shenandoah as well. And I will tell you that
17 when cross -- again, this goes back to my sort of equity
18 argument in my feeling on some of this stuff, when you cross
19 22nd Avenue and US-1, and you get into Coconut Grove, to the
20 right of your neighborhood, it is a restricted access
21 neighborhood in Coconut Grove that restricts access from
22 people cutting through their neighborhood from 27th Avenue.
23 And so all the stuff east of 27th Avenue, south of US-1, is
24 restricted access. Bay Heights is restricted access and I'm
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1 but the fact of matter is that those areas have fought for
2 decades, for decades, to restrict access to vehicles, not to
3 their neighbors, not to each other, that's a vibrant
4 community. I've visited all those communities. They love
5 each other, they take care of each other, they are wonderful
6 with each other. The only thing they restrict is vehicles.
7 They have the way to get in themselves for their own
8 vehicles, but they don't want people from -- and I'll just
9 say from Kendall, West Chester, from all the other parts of
10 Miami-Dade County to be diminishing their quality of life.
11 Okay.
12 So I just want to be fair and transparent about
13 that, because I want you to know what other neighborhoods
14 are doing as well, including the one I live in. I know
15 people have criticized me for living in a closed
16 neighborhood. I bought in a closed neighborhood. It was
17 closed way before I got in, okay? They, that neighborhood
18 fought for those closures for decades. I have a three and a
19 half year old, and I have a baby girl on the way, okay?
20 (Audience reaction.)
21 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you, guys. I have a
22 baby girl on the way. So I've been very blessed. And I can
23 tell you I have a premium quality of life. So am I
24 influenced by that? Of course I'm influenced by that. Of
25 course I'm influenced by that. That doesn't mean I'm going

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1 to impose my views and thoughts on all of you. That's not


2 my objective at all. I wouldn't have gotten this far in my
3 life and my career, particularly as an elected official, we
4 don't do things unpopular. We don't do things that upset
5 people. We do things because we want to make things better.
6 So I'm not here to impose my philosophy, my will.
7 I'm going to give you the pros and the cons of everything,
8 and let you guys determine your own fate and your own
9 quality of life and your own decisions. And what I would do
10 is once you determine that, I would do what you ask me to
11 do, whatever that is. So that's my job, to be frank. My
12 job is to do what you want me to do, not what I want to do,
13 okay? So you have my full commitment in that sense to -- in
14 whatever way that I can.
15 Where do we go from here? Where do we go from here?
16 So one of the things that we have to do a traffic
17 study and I already talked to the attorney, I already talked
18 to the -- and I want to thank the County, because they have
19 lit a fire into our consultants to get it done as quickly as
20 possible. My understanding is that the completion date for
21 all the data, and if you guys can give me a nod, -- a little
22 over here on the right, guys, completion date is
23 November 3rd; is that correct? Correct? Okay. So we have
24 a committed completion date of November 3rd. We obviously
25 want to analyze whatever that data shows. We want to meet

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1 with the County, of course, because they have a tremendous


2 amount of jurisdiction and say over what, if anything,
3 happens next, and then, of course, we need to consult with
4 you, you know, our bosses. And I think to the extent maybe
5 mistakes were made in the past, or mistakes may have been
6 made in the past about not notifying significant amounts of
7 people, I think it's pretty clear today that we've notified
8 a lot of people. And we've done a pretty good job today, if
9 not in the past, of notifying the people who are to be
10 affected by this project. And you have that commitment from
11 me, that I'll do my best to continue to make sure that
12 everybody knows what's going on in the neighborhood.
13 We need to control, in the sense that we need to
14 control the notices. We took control of the forum, you
15 know, we wanted everyone to understand this objective. You
16 know we're not here to take any sides. We're here to do
17 what's right for you. That's our job.
18 So I would like to open up the floor to you all.
19 We're going to have two microphones, one on each side. You
20 know who's here, so you can ask questions of any one of us
21 in particular that you want.
22 A couple of ground rules, if I may. I would like --
23 and I don't know if we have a count or anything like that,
24 but we normally have in commission meeting, because of the
25 volume of people, we usually limit people's time to two

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1 minutes, okay? And if everyone is okay with that, that's


2 what I think is a reasonable amount of time. That's what we
3 do in commission meetings. If we don't limit it, with the
4 volume of people that are here, we could be here till
5 midnight, okay?
6 And I think the idea is for people to ask your
7 questions about your concerns. The second thing that I
8 would respectively ask is, look, we know that people on
9 23rd Terrace and 25th Street have been complaining about an
10 increase of traffic. I know that. If you want to go up
11 there a say, hey, I just want to add my name to that, you
12 know, that's fine. Just for the purpose of you being here,
13 putting it on the record, that's good. But for purposes of
14 expediency, it would be good, so we can all go home at a
15 reasonable time today, if you not repeat what someone else
16 has said, right, or if you can just say something simple,
17 like I'm in support of the project, I'm against the project,
18 I've seen traffic go up, you can give what you think is a
19 percentage, based on your experience. I've heard a lot of
20 people say, I'm calling about those kinds of things and
21 those are all helpful. But I would just ask that we all be
22 as respectful as possible, understanding that, you know,
23 just the sheer number of people that are here today, if
24 everyone spoke without restriction, we would be here for a
25 long time, and that's happened in the past.

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1 So without further ado, I'm going to -- I'm going to


2 first, okay -- so the other thing I would ask, last thing I
3 would ask is this: We have two policies and procedures that
4 we normally implement. Some of you may not feel comfortable
5 speaking, and so I would say two things. One is, please
6 don't clap. If you hear something that you like, just wave
7 your hands. That would act as a clap. We do that in our
8 commission meetings because if you start clapping, it's just
9 going to get out of control. You know, you can go like
10 this. We understand if you like, you can go like this. If
11 you don't like it, that's fine. But don't clap. Or go boo,
12 either one. That's going to get out of control. The second
13 thing I would ask is let's say for example, this gentleman
14 right here, he's got lots of slides and presentations. It
15 appears to me it's going to take him more than two minutes.
16 I think that's a fair statement.
17 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I will not try to, and I promise
18 you no more than 10.
19 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So what I would suggest, what
20 I would ask is this: If there are people that agree with
21 what he's saying, but don't necessarily want to get up
22 because there are people, some people are shy, some people
23 don't want to talk in front of a room this big, if you could
24 concede your time, your two minutes, in favor of him, that
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1 we're not going to be longer because five people or ten


2 people would not speak, and sort of give their time over to
3 him. So if he's going to speak 10 minutes, I would ask five
4 people that don't want -- I'm assuming you're against the
5 project.
6 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I'm for the project that will
7 solve the problem.
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Okay. He's for something that
9 will solve the problem. Will five people that don't
10 necessarily want to speak, that want to hear the project
11 that will solve the problem, give over your time to this
12 gentlemen. One, two, three, four -- okay, so we've got
13 plenty people.
14 AUDIENCE MEMBER: All right. Thank you for your
15 presentation.
16 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: My apologies. We have
17 Commissioner Barreiro here, guys. My apologies. I'm sorry.
18 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: On that issue, if anybody
19 can that has exhibits like him, there might be somebody
20 that's representing a family, or two families, if they can
21 come up to the speaker, and then the five people behind them
22 that want to give this time that way we do --
23 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Faster.
24 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: Cut off 10 minutes or
25 whatever it is.

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1 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Perfect. Thank you,


2 Commissioner. Yes.
3 Guys, in the commission meeting, we normally request
4 or require you give your name and address, Okay? We have
5 had a comprehensive speaking list here. If you feel
6 comfortable giving your name and address, I think it would
7 be good if you did. If you don't feel comfortable giving
8 your name and address because of the nature and sensitivity
9 of this project, don't do it. You know I'm not going to
10 stop someone from speaking if they don't feel comfortable
11 giving their name and address.
12 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you, Commissioner.
13 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: By the way, my name is
14 Francis Suarez and one last thing, I'm sorry. My staff just
15 gave me. I want to thank them for all their work. They're
16 here on a Saturday morning at 8:30 in the morning, and I
17 want to acknowledge my staff.
18 We have comment cards. If you don't feel
19 comfortable speaking, but you want your thoughts to be
20 known, and you want it to be part of the record for what
21 we're doing here today, comment cards, we will pass them out
22 and can you give your perspective and we will put them
23 together, give them to the clerk, and the clerk can have
24 them officially in case anybody in the future would want to
25 inspect them. Thank you.

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1 Is it okay if I don't say it in Spanish, or do you


2 guys want me to say it in Spanish?
3 AUDIENCE: No.
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Okay. We're good, then.
5 Thank you. Yes?
6 I understand what you're saying. I think the
7 concern is if you don't feel comfortable saying your
8 address, if you could please give what neighborhood you're
9 from, that would be good, you know, because I think we would
10 get a sense of where the concerns are coming from. Thank
11 you. Sir.
12 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Good morning, everyone. My name
13 is Antonio and I'm an urban planner. I've had the
14 opportunity to do this in many countries and throughout the
15 U.S. So basically, when all this conversation started, I
16 looked at three traffic studies that we have, the plans. It
17 was one in 2005 by an engineer that the Commissioner was
18 making reference to which was rather comprehensive and dealt
19 with procedural issues. There was a plan in 20012 that had
20 three options for transforming 22nd Avenue into something
21 different than what it is today, and then they had the late
22 2016, which was issued in January 2017 study by private
23 engineer, which was the last one.
24 With all the controversy and approaching it from my
25 urban planning, I design cities for a living. That's what

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1 urban planners do. They try to be the guy that brings to


2 the same table the elected official, the traffic engineers,
3 the environmentalist, the regional consultants, they are a
4 bunch of very smart people to just come up with the best
5 option and we try to find the right one without committing
6 to any idea but the best one that gets better.
7 Like Commissioner Suarez was saying, the most
8 important thing is present and the future. And as part of
9 these studies, typically, they are all projections, traffic
10 projections as to what the impact of their project would be.
11 And I went straight to that, once I got familiar with the
12 project, and they said what do the traffic engineers from
13 Trident think is going to happen in the future with this
14 project that they have designed? And they had two possible
15 scenarios that they were showing. They were showing one
16 with the current conditions and one with the project as
17 designed from 2016, 2025, 2030, and 2040. I took the time
18 to simplify those things, put them in.
19 Can everybody see? I will walk you them through.
20 Basically, it has all the 22nd Avenue intersections between
21 Coral Way and US-1. There is the 2016 no-build alternative,
22 and the 2016 build alternative with the discussion that you
23 saw. Basically, there is eastbound morning traffic,
24 westbound morning traffic versus eastbound afternoon
25 traffic, and westbound afternoon traffic. What the

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1 Commissioner just said, basically, about the study is true.


2 That there are some streets, namely Southwest 23rd Street
3 and Southwest 24th Terrace that even though the traffic is
4 more or less going through all the streets, so far they are
5 getting a disproportionate amount as it is right now, prior
6 to the rolls. That's an absolute fact.
7 And in the afternoon, Southwest 24th Street was
8 getting some traffic back home, but the brunt of it was
9 being borne by 24th Terrace. Now, you see the total counts
10 in the morning and in the afternoon and -- here and here,
11 with the option where you do absolutely nothing. With the
12 option where you implement the project, obviously, those
13 intersections that are cut get zero, and everybody is very
14 happy on the first block. However, when you look at this,
15 the persons of 23rd Terrace, they are getting jumping from
16 15 to 175 folks. And that's a projection that seems to
17 match with the reports and locally that I've been hearing.
18 And you see the traffic from Southwest 24th Terrace,
19 number 5 guess what? Just goes to 25th. It's just a way of
20 putting it out and saying turn here and then turn here.
21 That's what's actually happening in real life.
22 And if you look at it, the cut-through traffic, by
23 the way, this is only cut-through. I will get to the
24 Terrace later on. The cut-through traffic moves from 8,150
25 to 8,185 and the cut-through traffic in the afternoon will

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1 go to 7,563. There is additional cars, I guess, the


2 beautification is going to be so successful and people well
3 come that way back home just to see the avenue.
4 And this is the part that is the closest projection
5 from 2016, which is very close to existing data. Maybe in
6 the future this part will get a report or this part gets
7 corrected by itself. So we're closer to doing the same
8 analysis for 2025, and you have, again, 125 and 120 before
9 and 195 and 120 afterwards. So all of these guys are being
10 volunteered, this guy, I'm moving here. On the way back
11 home, you have 70, 60, 40. You see the difference is not
12 that big between all the streets, because the great
13 distribution of traffic puts all this at 30, 40, 60, 70 you
14 get, guess what? 210.
15 And fast forward to 2030, you know the drill by now.
16 And 2040, and again you see that traffic is not made in the
17 cut-through traffic. When you see the neighborhood as a
18 whole, you get 10,000 cars, 10,900 cars without the project.
19 With the project. Which is to say, that we want to see next
20 what happens when we take all the left and right turns into
21 consideration. And we not been so good at doing that here,
22 but I will again try to walk you through.
23 I said, okay. Maybe the secret is not in the pure
24 east-west cut-through traffic. What happens to the turns?
25 Okay. Again, this is no project, current project. You have

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1 22nd Terrace to 26th Street. I took Coral Way and US-1 off,
2 because they are just the big corridors, they are not part
3 of a residential neighborhood. Let's concentrate on the
4 neighborhood for a second. And again, we see that they --
5 when I say, left, right cut, left is all this traffic going
6 eastbound, and this is going westbound. This is the morning
7 and the afternoon. And so it's left coming from Coral Way
8 and turning to your street. Right coming from US-1 and
9 turning on your street. And it's cut is the pure east-west
10 or west-east depending on whether it's the morning and the
11 afternoon and then go about the time of a day.
12 So you see the left turns represent 13 percent, the
13 right turns represent 28, the cut-through traffic represents
14 59. So yes, cut-through is important and cut-through is
15 people going from west to east, but to some extent, it's
16 also useful getting people out of the neighborhood as we all
17 know.
18 Now, in the afternoon, you can see in this picture,
19 when you go to the comparison, for example, the second time
20 I'm going to go through eastbound traffic, the 13, 28, and
21 59 percent with all of the streets open, guess what? With
22 the two roundabouts, 13, 28, 59. Exactly the same
23 percentages, they just get reroute differently.
24 Now, what happens? Ultimately, look at the dark
25 green numbers, for example, before or without doing

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1 anything. In the morning, eastbound, again, the guys who


2 are bearing the brunt and are suffering the most from
3 traffic are West 23rd Street and Southwest 24th Terrace,
4 with 31 and 25 percent of all the traffic going eastbound.
5 When you only do -- or when you do the project, that goes to
6 Southwest 23rd Terrace and Southwest 25th Street. But where
7 you guys were having 155 and 125 before, we got now 230 and
8 130.
9 And, bear with me, last but not least, there are
10 many which have 843, the single digits have more here than
11 there. So basically, like Commissioner was saying, one of
12 the sources of the problem is that on 27th Street, they
13 clipped streets, they did some funneling -- I mean,
14 27th Avenue, sorry. And then you created a problem east of
15 that.
16 Now, we are doing exactly the same as Southwest
17 22nd Avenue. We're taking somebody else's mistake and we
18 all collectively fail if we repair. Now, that's not to say
19 that the problem is not real. There is traffic, but like
20 the numbers show, and those percentages are accurate and
21 they reflect what we experienced in the past few months. So
22 cut-through traffic, you are not going to magically
23 disappear it. If you cut some streets, you will send it to
24 other streets. So we have to deal with it in an intelligent
25 manner.

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1 Again, like the Commissioner said, we are not going


2 to come with a solution out of this room. I have things
3 that I can say as a professional, things that I know will
4 work. The issue with 22nd Avenue as well, which was --
5 AUDIENCE MEMBER: What is your solution, man?
6 MR. ANTONIO: Let me get there. Let me get there.
7 (Audience reaction.)
8 MR. ANTONIO: 22nd Avenue. The other thing that's
9 going to happen, you have right now two lanes of traffic,
10 which is not fast because they are wide, they are the old
11 lanes, very fast traffic, with a very under whelming
12 separation. That's geometry for faster movement. And we
13 the right to tackle that.
14 If we stick, on the other hand, to only one lane, I
15 think that roadside is good, but I think what we have little
16 bit too good, if there is such a thing. Yes, it would go
17 slower. Yes, it would get you a bike lane to connect to
18 Coral Way, an express and bike lane coming down the road, as
19 you know, but it would have one disastrous effect, because
20 of all traffic that we currently get north and south, which
21 again doesn't magically disappear, when you get only one
22 lane, and you get beautiful trees, that does make people go
23 slower. You going to get a big line of cars from US-1 to
24 Coral Way. And guess what people going to do? They going
25 to go to the next street. And if you're coming from US-1,

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1 you're going to make a right turn at 26th and then go


2 through 21st or 19th.
3 So -- and then the more intersections we have, the
4 least accident prone neighborhoods become whole. So for the
5 solution, limit of two lanes, only ten feet wide, with a
6 wide 13 to 17 median in the center. I think we have
7 Southwest 19th Avenue, which has been forced on us to be
8 open. Okay, let's use it. Let's route through that way,
9 just a suggestion.
10 Many of the things that were in the 2005 study that
11 the City paid for engineering are very good. Traffic
12 circles are good, because ideally we need to have that
13 blocked so you don't see through, because if you see through
14 they have traffic circle here, another down the road, let's
15 go fast. It's designed to bushy, so you don't know what's
16 expecting you behind. That slows you down. The forced
17 closed intersections are good and the narrower streets are
18 good if you know very well the avenue that is just by the
19 Shenandoah --
20 (Bell ringing. Audience reaction.)
21 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Can I give him my two minutes,
22 please?
23 (Audience reaction.)
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Whoa, whoa, whoa, guys. One
25 of the biggest concerns that I have about this projects is

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1 the tone of the discussion, guys, okay? So if there are


2 other people that will give up their time to allow him to
3 finish, you can raise your hands, okay? There are people
4 that -- you're going to give up your time so you're not
5 going to speak. You're sure? You're not sure? Okay. Go
6 ahead, sir.
7 MR. ANTONIO: Thank you, everybody. So basically,
8 if you know the alley by the post office, you will know that
9 it has cars on both sides and it's very narrow. And
10 everybody is just scared to go by, everybody drives very
11 slowly. If that's what we do with the perception of the
12 road is narrow. So we need parking on both sides. We need
13 the traffic tables, and what the Commissioner said was very
14 accurate. Those are the concerns. Sometime I heard that
15 some elderly people don't know what to do with their cars or
16 they are forgetful or they aren't watching for them, and we
17 have the traffic signal for a couple of the intersection and
18 if 50 people comply and one doesn't, and they said they
19 cannot do it. So the community needs to be involved.
20 There are many other solutions like what is percent
21 if there are both intersections at the corner where you get
22 an intersection of traffic now. The table that a box to
23 work they must be as high as you can. They worked very well
24 in Key Biscayne for traffic. I think preferably your
25 neighborhood open is important. Some of the neighborhoods

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1 that the Commissioner mentioned, like Coconut Grove and


2 Morningside, he's right. They are beautiful neighborhoods,
3 they are lively neighborhoods, but they are the destination.
4 They are next to the water, they are next to other parts.
5 Nobody has to physically go through or next to it on the
6 corridor to get to meaningful places. The County can do a
7 lot. Transit can improve. There are people working on
8 that. I hear very many good ideas from even the public
9 officers or people who are running for office, and I
10 think -- I trust that they would put their act together as
11 soon as possible.
12 But basically, I can offer if it is in the best of
13 the community -- I've done this so we have designed complete
14 city in five days. I have had a report four to six weeks
15 later on. If the Commissioner is amicable and the community
16 can volunteer on this. We need to come together, folks.
17 Enough bickering. The people who have been fighting the
18 traffic for years, they deserve a solution. But that
19 solution is certainly not routing the traffic to somewhere
20 else. These are projections by the experts, by the traffic
21 engineers. Traffic just moves from one place to the next.
22 We can design things and treat those streets -- maybe a
23 solution is as simple as getting authorize subset of drives.
24 Let's say the streets that beforehand 155, and that went to
25 the left, the 25 of right.

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1 So no, there is no silver bullet to your question,


2 sir. I cannot tell you, do only this and this will
3 magically solve your problem. I would be lying shamefully
4 to you, but there are very many solutions that when you take
5 two or three of them are not enough, when you put them
6 together, they work. I can offer you to do a workshop.
7 Have the community come together, decide this and work with
8 the authorities. Thank you so much.
9 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So just to summarize quickly.
10 19th Avenue has a potential only bike lane, not reducing the
11 number of lanes from four to two, but reducing the width of
12 the lane and creating a larger median. And then potentially
13 both the part of the cut-through, that part, you see, you
14 made an argument that was about redistribution.
15 MR. ANTONIO: By keeping the streets open streets.
16 (Audience reaction.)
17 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So your conclusion is to
18 maintain the status quo that was there before?
19 MR. ANTONIO: No. Keep the streets open, but street
20 to street that by sheer proximity to Coral Way you treat
21 them in such a way that discourage and regulate, you take a
22 set of drivers off that.
23 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Okay. That part I'm a little
24 confused on, but you can send me an e-mail on that.
25 MR. GELLS: Thank you. My name is Franklin Gells.

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1 I live at 1270 SW 14th Street.


2 Commissioner Suarez, every neighborhood deserves the
3 opportunity to obtain the same quality of life and safety.
4 That is the goal of the Silver Bluff project. We all pay
5 the same taxes. You are a proponent of street closures and
6 neighborhood closings. These closures only serve to move
7 traffic to other streets and other neighbors. Exactly why
8 neighborhoods north of US-1 have traffic issues due to
9 street and neighborhood closures in Bay Heights and The
10 Grove.
11 Because the traffic still exists. It does not go
12 away. As the candidate for mayor of the City of Miami, how
13 do you justify closing streets in neighborhoods for some
14 neighbors and residents, thus improving their quality of
15 life and safety at the expense of the surrounding
16 neighborhoods?
17 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you. I think that's a
18 great question. If I become the mayor of the City of Miami,
19 I don't represent the people of West Chester. I don't
20 represent the people of Kendall. I don't represent the
21 people of North Miami. I represent the people of Silver
22 Bluff, Shenandoah, Morningside. I represent all those
23 people.
24 So the problem of cut-through traffic, in my own
25 opinion, is not necessarily because of closing

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1 neighborhoods. Certainly, if you close neighborhoods, more


2 traffic will have to go on the arteriors, which are US-1,
3 Coral Way, 8th street, Flagler, 37th Avenue, 27th Avenue.
4 And that's what those streets were original designed for.
5 They were designed to transport massive amounts of people.
6 The problem here is not necessarily closed
7 neighborhoods. The problem here is the population of our
8 county. We have a county of 3 million people,
9 approximately. We do not have a viable mass transit system.
10 Every large city in the world, every large city in the world
11 has viable mass transit. Every large one. We do not. And
12 so, you know, whether you close a little neighborhood here,
13 close a little neighborhood there, that's not what's
14 creating the problem. Backups -- and by the way, all, like
15 I said before, I live a closed neighborhood. It's not that
16 I'm a proponent of closed neighborhoods. I live in a closed
17 neighborhood. So I experience that every single day, and I
18 experience that quality of life benefit. That was the
19 condition that I lived in when I bought there, okay? So I
20 can't if -- if -- let's say everybody here -- and obviously
21 that's not the case, but let's say every single person here
22 wanted to close Silver Bluff, because they're upset about
23 people from West Chester and other parts of the county
24 traversing their neighborhood to get to work in downtown.
25 If that was what they wanted, then I would fight for it.

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1 That's my job.
2 MR. GELLS: But what would happen to the people in
3 Shenandoah?
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: You would also --
5 MR. GELLS: You would fight to close our
6 neighborhood?
7 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: It affected Shenandoah --
8 MR. GELLS: But it would.
9 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: If it affected Shenandoah,
10 that would be a major concern as well. Absolutely. And so
11 I would do whatever I had to do to protect Shenandoah as
12 well, or any other neighborhood in the city. But the
13 problem here is not favoring one neighborhood or the other.
14 We can -- we can fix it if that's the problem, if we want to
15 go at each other, which is what's been happening, right?
16 The problem here, and I'll let the, you know, the
17 Commissioner may have certain opinion that is different from
18 me. The problem in my opinion is people from outside the
19 city coming through the city. That's my view of it. And
20 those people do not have alternatives to get into the city.
21 And if they had alternatives, they wouldn't necessarily
22 potentially use in their cars and we wouldn't have streets
23 that were otherwise or before neighborhood streets that now
24 today feel like they're arteriors. They feel like Coral
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1 that's why we had three traffic studies. That's why people


2 have been complaining about cut-through traffic since 2005.
3 That's 12 years.
4 MR. GELLS: Correct. I understand. Since 2005.
5 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: Sir, if I can step in.
6 Folks, I think the Commissioner has done a great job of
7 expressing his thoughts, sincerely, extremely transparent.
8 He's gone above and beyond. If there's input now that the
9 community has sort of gotten engaged on the issue, let's
10 all -- I would suggest -- you're handling this, it's your
11 meeting, but I would suggest that everyone come in, give
12 their two minutes, give all your thoughts, give your
13 opinions. Do not try to engage in every single time you
14 come up and speak, because, you know, it's not going to be a
15 productive meeting. But please give your sincere thoughts
16 on the project, give any input, any ideas, you know, so that
17 we can move the process forward. At some point I'll chime
18 in -- whatever you what, I'll give my thoughts.
19 Look, I'll be very brief. I've spoken to some of
20 you on both sides. I consider that we bought into a
21 neighborhood that was open. I support an open neighborhood
22 personally, but just like the Commissioner, I think, you
23 know, the majority rules, but as long as it doesn't trample
24 the minority rights and positions.
25 I think we got to, you know, work through this,

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1 there might be alternative solutions. We got to go and


2 analyze and look at everything. I don't like the process,
3 what the way it has gone on from the beginning. I expressed
4 that to the people that, you know, had gone on and expressed
5 it to the Commissioner. I think that sort of has thrown a
6 bad aura in the whole process, and that's bad. But having
7 said that, I think we want to hear from you. Please give me
8 your thoughts, and don't try to engage him or me or
9 something.
10 MR. EDWARDS: My name is Mark Edwards, and I live on
11 23rd Terrace. So I think you understand why I'm here. We
12 do have a lot of issues. The traffic has quadrupled at
13 certain times. It's 10 times more than it ever was. And
14 while we live in an open neighborhood, our street was not
15 open. And you have now forced literally every car coming in
16 at rush hour onto our street. At this point there's already
17 a pothole on 22nd Avenue when you make a left onto
18 23rd Terrace. I hit it today for the first time, so that
19 needs to be addressed.
20 What is going to happen on November 3rd when this
21 project ends? Are the poles coming out or are you going to
22 keep them in? The study is going to be done. What's going
23 to happen to the poles? If you want to answer.
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: The project -- the temporary
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1 we sit with the County, and work on what is the next step.
2 So I don't want to tell you the next step is this and then
3 not come through. You know what I mean? For me, it's about
4 listening to all of you, getting a good perspective, a good
5 gauge of what the entire neighborhood feels. Getting the
6 data, which we should be getting in a week or two or
7 whatever, sitting down with the Commissioner, with the
8 staff, both staffs. Certainly incorporating any ideas or
9 concerns that we've received here, and then maybe having
10 another meeting right, you now, shortly thereafter to
11 discuss the next step.
12 MR. EDWARDS: Because you said you that you've taken
13 the money away from having the full project funded so --
14 COMMISSION SUAREZ: That's correct.
15 MR. EDWARDS: -- if that's taken away and the
16 temporary project remains, obviously, our street is going to
17 be negatively impacted.
18 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Understood. Understood.
19 MR. EDWARDS: In a way that no one else is.
20 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I understand.
21 MR. EDWARDS: Also, when you put up the slides
22 before, there were traffic circles and tables everywhere but
23 23rd Terrace. There was literally not one traffic circle,
24 not one speed or whatever table you want to -- you know, the
25 word that you used for it. There wasn't one on

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1 23rd Terrace. So if you were going -- even if you do what


2 your potential project is, which will still have a traffic
3 circle at 23rd Terrace and traffic is going to come through
4 there, is there nothing that's going to be added to reduce
5 their speed and traffic?
6 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Just to be clear, it's a good
7 question. We have authority from the County, and thank the
8 County they have been a great participant in this process,
9 to push back the tables on 23rd Terrace as well. But as you
10 remember when I went over the need of the neighborhood to be
11 involved, and before the process began -- and so maybe they
12 didn't approve them at that time, and now, maybe. I don't
13 know. So we have to see what the neighborhood wants.
14 But certainly, the approvals are there, and
15 depending on how this plays out -- regardless of how this
16 plays out, we're always here to serve you. So if in the
17 service of your street, you say we want these irrespective
18 of this protect, we're getting them.
19 MR. EDWARDS: Okay. Thank you.
20 MR. ROBINSON: Good morning. I won't take -- I have
21 two people's time. One, two. Thank you.
22 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Did you need more time, Walter?
23 MR. ROBINSON: Yes.
24 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Here's some more.
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1 staff, neighbors, thank you for being here. My name is a


2 Walter Robinson. I live on 24th Terrace, in Silver Bluff.
3 I strongly support the design and implementation of the
4 22nd Avenue improvement program as designed with
5 enhancements. No left turns, rush hour commitments, rush
6 hour prevention. It's us against the commuter, it's not us
7 against ourselves. We must be united. It us against the
8 commuter.
9 I believe that is the function and I believe it has
10 function that is designed and has the least overall
11 cut-through traffic. I find it very difficult to believe
12 someone would object. There is going to be more cars coming
13 through our neighborhood with the project. That's very odd.
14 (Audience interruption.)
15 MR. ROBINSON: It's my time. In addition, it will
16 provide a beautification element by connecting the
17 underline, Coconut Grove and Biscayne Bay to historic Coral
18 Way and entertainment, shopping, and dining venues. We are
19 optimizing our own urban center that already exists. This
20 is an exceptional opportunity to implement a vision that
21 will be appreciated by generations to come.
22 Based on the results of the engineering studies, the
23 new access streets, which is 23rd Terrace, did not have near
24 the volume that other streets, such as 22nd Terrace,
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1 AUDIENCE MEMBER: And now they do.


2 MR. ROBINSON: Based on my detailed observations, I
3 firmly believe that we've built a case today. 23rd Terrace
4 still has less traffic than other streets.
5 (Audience reaction.)
6 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys.
7 MR. ROBINSON: Statistical data has confirmed that,
8 statistical data. But I do want for the record, there was
9 work on 24th Terrace. There was a speed bump that was put
10 in. For the record, I want to ensure that the survey that
11 was taken properly reflects that if the street was blocked,
12 it should not be during the period of time that the survey
13 was taken.
14 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: We waited until that was
15 completed to take the counts.
16 MR. ROBINSON: So that was completed, the road was
17 open, the signs were gone for the counts. Thank you.
18 This plan was presented several times at separate
19 meetings and had no objections. The app Nextdoor, which is
20 clearly dominated and controlled by the opposition to this
21 project, has done three surveys, and all three surveys have
22 stated that the majority of the neighborhood supports the
23 improvements as planned. That's true.
24 (Audience reaction.)
25 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys, seriously. You're going

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1 to have an opportunity.
2 MR. ROBINSON: I collected petitions for support of
3 the project. We've received a huge return, well over
4 90 percent that support it. And everyone, when it was
5 proposed, with a picture. Not the poles. It was clearly
6 directly this was the ultimate end game plan. And some of
7 those people who support it are on the open streets.
8 This is a Silver Bluff traffic crisis. It is unique
9 to Silver Bluff due to the location where we're at the
10 termination of Interstate 95, between US-1 and Coral Way.
11 If you live outside Silver Bluff, I wish you well and hope
12 that you will see this project as a benchmark and work to
13 implement something similar and unique to your needs in your
14 neighborhood. I'm Walter Robinson, and I support this
15 project.
16 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Good morning, everyone. I live at
17 2271 Southwest 26th Street. I've been in that neighborhood
18 since I was 10 years old. I am 60 years old today. I
19 raised my children there and have never seen so much traffic
20 in our neighborhood. The big problem that concerns me, I'm
21 okay with everything that's going on here today, that's why
22 we're here. We need unity and respect for each other
23 because we are here.
24 Now, my main concern is when you make a left on
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1 coming south and they drive through the entire block and
2 then the cut off and go straight into 22nd Avenue. That's
3 all.
4 MS. PUENTES: My name is Adelia Puentes. I live on
5 22nd Terrace and 21st Avenue. I wanted to comment on some
6 of the things that Commissioner Suarez commented on at the
7 beginning. First off, I've lived there 17 years. I'm right
8 near the corner of 21st Avenue and 22nd Terrace. There's a
9 stop sign there. There's always been traffic speeding
10 around that corner from Coral Way. When I moved in, I put
11 in a fence in the front of my yard to protect my children.
12 I was proactive. I didn't force my will on anyone else or
13 restrict anyone else's travel. I've seen many accidents
14 there. I requested from your office to put in a four-way
15 stop. There was supposed to be a circle that was never
16 implemented. I never received a notice or vote or an option
17 to vote on that circle ever, and I've lived there for
18 17 years and I am active. So if votes were requested not
19 all neighborhoods received them, but that was not an option
20 for me.
21 There is no speed limit sign in Silver Bluff with
22 regards to the new speed zones. Doing plantings on
23 22nd Avenue is a wonderful idea. It's very sparse, it's
24 very cold, but reducing the number of lanes especially with
25 what we've seen during Hurricane Irma, the backup of traffic

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1 to the gas station, people using the roads inside the


2 neighborhood, to have those gas lines, people unable to get
3 in and out of their homes in an emergency situation, downed
4 trees within the neighborhood, if limit -- if you close
5 certain streets, in a hurricane trees topple into the
6 streets. Those people are stuck. They can't get in or out.
7 The community can't get in or out.
8 I have argued that it's not us versus the commuters,
9 because we are commuters. Every single one of us travels
10 the entire city of Miami, Broward County. We have the
11 right. We are free citizens. We pay taxes for all the
12 streets that we travel. And I agree, putting those tolls on
13 the expressways makes it economically unavailable to most
14 families. That is not our fault. And from the statistics
15 that Eduardo pointed out, the traffic has increased, but it
16 was spread out throughout the community. We all had to
17 absorb a little bit of it. It's not right to force two
18 streets that are very narrow, on the west side, on the east
19 side of 22nd Avenue. It's dangerous. It's a chicken
20 dodging. I don't like having to go down 22nd Terrace to
21 make a left turn. And it's just not fair.
22 If I could say one more thing. Street -- community
23 closures throughout the city have added to the traffic
24 congestion. Coral Gables, I lived there when I was born and
25 I left before they closed the streets, and I was thankful.

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1 I was on the busiest street, people took the curve. Yes,


2 you had to be extra careful, but it was a neighborhood that
3 flowed through, and it created less of a bottle neck than in
4 and out of Coral Gables.
5 Those community closures are contributing to all the
6 traffic within all the major arteries in the city. So doing
7 this sporadically is the problem. And continually building
8 communities will only close off and we can't live in a bird
9 cage. We can't.
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you. Let me address a
11 couple of issues. One is in a traffic circle, if your block
12 potentially -- and I've seen that data, and what happens is
13 the way the first step is, we request a traffic study. If
14 the traffic study is coming back and the County does not
15 allow us to move forward with the circle, we never get to
16 ballot, so it's possible that we requested a traffic study
17 for your intersection, it got denied, and the ballots, we
18 never did the ballots on your street. So that could explain
19 that, I'm not sure.
20 MS. PUENTES: Well, I thought you said the study
21 presented three or four - they're expenses and requires
22 maintenance. We don't want more maintenance. But the study
23 didn't work.
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Right. Sure. And the point
25 that I'm trying to make is, that we -- the County does the

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1 approvals or not approvals. So the county did not approve


2 that four-way stop. We don't approve them, but we request
3 the study and then they make a determination. So we can
4 feel and obviously we wouldn't -- I think that it was
5 warranted, I wouldn't have asked them. Based on your, you
6 know, based on what you represented to us, we asked for it.
7 And so when they said no, I mean, it has that restriction.
8 We can't.
9 And, I mean, listen, there are definitely -- I think
10 we all agree that there are definitely certain subjective
11 disagreements on philosophy or on whatever, restricting
12 access to certain neighborhoods is good or bad, and some
13 people, you know, want to live in open neighborhoods. I can
14 tell you from the Coral Gables perspective, before I arrived
15 they had I think 2,000 or 2,500 and I asked them and their
16 study was many years ago. They as a neighborhood decided
17 what was best for them and that's what they did.
18 One of things that I asked for from our manager, and
19 if I -- I did not want this to be a political discussion and
20 I don't want this to be a political discussion, but if I
21 serve beyond the next couple of weeks, we definitely do need
22 a transportation or traffic master plan of the entire city,
23 and that needs to be done along with the County as something
24 that I've asked for for months and have not made any
25 progress on it, unfortunately. I can ask, but they don't do

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1 it, they don't do it.


2 So I appreciate that there's -- we need to have a
3 broader conversation and larger conversation about how cars
4 are affecting us and what we want as residents. Like this,
5 just because I feel one way, we all have different opinions,
6 at the end of the day everyone has opinions. So it's your
7 opinion that really does matters in the way we should go,
8 not mine, okay?
9 MR. ROGERS: Good morning. My name is John Rogers.
10 We live on Southwest 25th street. Obviously, I fall in the
11 con side of this to some degree with the negative impact.
12 I'll relieve you, I'm not going to have any questions. I
13 just want to cite certain issues with the implementation and
14 the way this was rolled out. Obviously, some needs
15 mitigation and someone is going to pressure you. If you
16 pinch a hose, you get higher pressure. There's a lot of
17 traffic, skip over traffic, eastbound and jumping from
18 Southwest 25th Street continuing on to cross 22nd Avenue
19 where the obstacle course is proposed. That traffic, about
20 40 percent of if makes a half right, cuts 45 degrees across
21 two lanes of traffic, and across the turn lane to jump
22 around the ends of the median to continue eastbound on
23 Southwest 25th street.
24 About 40 percent of cars, and I filmed this for
25 about 20 minutes yesterday, and I was hopeful there was box

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1 to provide that and also provide an accurate account. About


2 40 percent of the traffic is making that jump over, but
3 hesitating on Southwest 25th Street west of the 22nd Avenue,
4 because the intent of that driver is to do a U-turn. And so
5 we're getting four and five and six cars at a time that are
6 backing up west of 22nd Avenue on Southwest 25th Street
7 waiting for traffic clearing up to jump across. And in
8 jumping, many times in front of a car that's southbound on
9 22nd Avenue to make a left turn there or another u-turn
10 there.
11 Now, my main concerns that this is, the poles went
12 up and there was no mitigation. I'm a retired pilot from
13 the Army. And I'm also coincidentally a graduate of Broward
14 Public Safety School, so I know a little bit about lanes,
15 and the Florida manual of standard called the Green Book for
16 lane and lane requirements, if one just does an objective
17 look of Southwest 25th Street -- and let me say to my
18 neighbors, I'm not proposing to push this off to Southwest
19 25th Street. What I'm proposing is you don't build a ramp
20 to a highway that to doesn't exist. Southwest 25th
21 Street -- Southwest 25th Street east of 22nd Avenue is
22 18 feet macadam to macadam wide.
23 It does not meet the legal standards of a two-lane
24 urban interstreet. The requirement minimum is 10 feet per
25 lane. And that's considering lane separation. My question

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1 to whoever is here representing Miami-Dade and not for


2 answering, it's more rhetorical: Who signed off on this?
3 In addition to that, for our handicap neighbors who
4 are wheelchair bound or have other problems, we now created
5 this turnabout and many times people are rounding the wagon
6 wheel. We have westbound commuters on Southwest 25th Street
7 attempting to make a left turn and go south on US-1 and
8 22nd Avenue who are then being wrapped around by traffic
9 doing u-turns and in other straight ones going a wider
10 u-turn around that.
11 And I filmed this yesterday and while I filmed it,
12 one bicyclist was heading north on 22nd Avenue, and I laud
13 the efforts, I really do. I understand we need to mitigate
14 and there should be bicycle lanes that's all part of the
15 plan. But it's not just part of planning for 22nd Avenue.
16 You can't drive that traffic into Southwest 25th Street, and
17 have them fly 40 miles an hour down what is now essentially
18 a one lane road, playing dodge cars down it.
19 We have no curbing, handicap ramps, 22nd and the
20 southeast corner of Southwest 25th Street and 22nd Avenue.
21 There's a handicap ramp that dumps them 45 degrees out into
22 22nd Avenue, but there's not even a continuous sidewalk to
23 go down Southwest 25th Street. If you take the alleyway
24 area of Southwest 21st Avenue, it becomes an alleyway at
25 25th Street, then what would be a handicap ramp is a macadam

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1 dropping you to a drainage cover.


2 I mean, it's those types of things you don't
3 implement with poles and drive people into areas that aren't
4 ready to handle that volume of traffic. It doesn't even
5 meet a legal requirement, and what I do want to know for the
6 record is who signed off on this and --
7 (Audience reaction.)
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you. So a couple of
9 things. One is I think you make a very legitimate point --
10 I think you make a very legitimate point about the size of
11 the width of the street. Both 25th Street and I believe
12 23rd Terrace also have substandard --
13 MR. ROGERS: It's narrows there.
14 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: What's that?
15 MR. ROGERS: It narrows over all those streets.
16 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Right. They both are narrow.
17 Also 23rd Terrace is also very narrow. It's less than the
18 normal width. But I do want to correct something that was
19 said before. I don't believe it's fair to say that when you
20 take out everything, that the traffic is being shared by the
21 entire neighborhood. It's not being shared be the entire
22 neighborhood. It's being inordinately borne by substreets.
23 So let's be fair about that. It's not being shared by the
24 entire neighborhood.
25 What I think the gentlemen who made the first

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1 presentation, the argument he was making was you're just


2 taking it from two and you're moving it to another two.
3 That's a different argument. But to say that it's being
4 shared by an entire neighborhood right now, it's not. And
5 part of the reason I differ with you it's not because of the
6 27th Avenue project, which the Florida Department of
7 Transportation project, not a county project, that has
8 caused a lot of traffic through certain streets in Silver
9 Bluff. So I jut want to correct that record, because I
10 don't think it's fair to say that the entire neighborhood is
11 bearing the brunt of the traffic right now.
12 Right now maybe you could make the argument that it
13 should be, but you can't make the argument before that it
14 was being evenly distributed.
15 (Audience reaction.)
16 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hi, I live on 23rd Street. One
17 brief comment and I want to preface that with just one
18 personal observation. I'm not against traffic circles, but
19 nobody here knows how to use them. They are not educated,
20 there's no traveling lane, yield means yield. But people
21 don't yield. They just blow through and it's like a game of
22 chicken. So they are wonderful and all that, but they don't
23 mitigate anything.
24 My main point is this, and I raised this at some of
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1 and I felt like I was just ignored, blown off every time I
2 brought it up. $2.5 million will pay for a whole lot of
3 police salaries, and the idea that what you just said, that
4 is the two streets are taking the brunt of the traffic, I
5 live on one of those streets, 23rd. I don't really mind. I
6 mind more that they run on in my neighborhood. But if it's
7 only those streets that makes it almost simpler to put some
8 enforcement at the west end of those streets, every day for
9 as long as it takes until people get the idea. The way they
10 did on all the roads in Miami Beach. Nobody speeds down
11 Alton Road anymore because they're out there, and the Coral
12 Gables cops are the same way.
13 So maybe it's time that City of Miami just budget
14 for some police in our neighborhood that's going to be a
15 permanent presence. What's the going police salary,
16 40 grand a year, 45, something like that. Divide that into
17 two and a half million, and that's a great start.
18 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you for your comments.
19 And I want to correct something or sort of explain something
20 a little bit further. The $2.5 million that we are budgeted
21 to use or were budgeted to use to a project, those are
22 capital dollars that cannot be used for operations such as
23 police officer.
24 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Save that.
25 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: You can't. It's a bond. What

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1 we have done with budgeting, we have increased our


2 patrolling police force over the last three, three and half
3 years by 70 percent. So we have almost doubled the size of
4 patrolling police force.
5 Well, I would submit to you that having -- we've
6 never had more police officers in the history of the City of
7 Miami, and we currently have another 1,400 officers, but I
8 will tell you that in my experience, just my experience that
9 police officer and enforcement is not the answer to
10 cut-through traffic, because they are a Band-Aid. You can
11 put them there for a certain period of time, on a certain
12 day and you can try to modify behavior a little bit, but for
13 a problem that persists day in and day out and everything,
14 it's a habit people have. People have them and that's the
15 way they operate. That in my experience does not solve the
16 problem of that magnitude. It usually solves -- if it
17 solves at all, it's solved through engineering, it's not
18 solved through police officers.
19 MS. SMITH: Thank you. My name is Mary Ray Smith,
20 and I live on 23rd Terrace between 22nd Avenue and
21 23rd Avenue. I'm here just to make three points. One, I do
22 support the beautification of 22nd Avenue, and I support the
23 integrity of the Silver Bluff community by improving 22nd
24 Avenue.
25 I also support minimizing traffic as part of that

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1 whole process. However, we really have to deal with the


2 equitable distribution of the traffic once we minimize what
3 is left of the traffic. By using a variety of approaches, I
4 think right turn only would help, more doughnuts would help,
5 not circles, and being able to eliminate directly crossing
6 22nd Avenue, which is impossible right now.
7 Increased use in the interior of the speed bumps and
8 circles in the interior of our neighborhoods. What has
9 happened to 23rd Terrace has endangered life and limb of
10 those who live there and our pets. And it's unconscionable
11 and it needs to come down immediately, get the freaken study
12 done. And I do look forward to the next step, working with
13 the Commissioner and everybody else to make sure we have a
14 positive solution for all of us. Thank you.
15 MS. ROCCA: Hello, my name is Arlen Rocca. I've
16 lived in Silver Bluff since 1996. I'm here to just try to
17 voice what I think are common sense solutions for you to
18 consider. I'm not an expert, but I am a resident.
19 First of all, let me say that I'm taken aback by how
20 much this project has been budgeted for, $2.5 million and
21 we're already $30,000 spent. I'm all for beautification,
22 but I'm not for closed neighborhoods or for street closures.
23 Here's some common sense solutions: Definitely
24 trees are needed on 22nd Avenue and also Miami needs trees,
25 period. The other thing that comes to my attention is bus

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1 benches. I have colleagues from FIU and they're young


2 assistant professors who don't have money to buy a car yet.
3 My colleague took a bus to FIU for more than a year, getting
4 wet because a lot of the bus stops do not even have a little
5 roof to cover them. Use some of that money to have decent
6 bus benches.
7 One way streets are a partial answer to this from
8 17th Avenue to 22nd. As was pointed out, these streets are
9 very narrow, make them one way, that will help reduce. Put
10 in real speed bumps that work. We need more policing,
11 giving tickets to people who are speeding so that people
12 will stop speeding. And also reduce the speed as they have
13 done in Key Biscayne. Not 25 miles per hour, but perhaps 15
14 or 20. And put police there to give tickets and you will
15 see how quickly people slow down.
16 No Street closures. I am for an open neighborhood
17 and it is dangerous to close the streets. If I have a
18 stroke or something happens to me, and I'm 65 years old, I
19 want the emergency vehicles to reach my house as quickly as
20 possible when seconds count. I have talked to firefighters
21 and they tell me they are against the street closures. It
22 makes it harder for them to reach an emergency.
23 So to conclude, I'm not sure if I'm done, mistakes
24 need to be corrected and not continued or made worse,
25 beautification is great, thank you very much. And I live in

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1 a closed-end street, 23rd Street, and I am against these


2 poles. I think they should be removed immediately.
3 AUDIENCE MEMBER: First. This is the first time
4 I've ever come to speak to the City of Miami. I've lived
5 here since 1998. I am so concerned that my wife would not
6 come to this meeting, because she doesn't speak English, and
7 she feels threatened by the attitudes people are taking.
8 The point that I am even giving my address and she lived in
9 this city longer than me. You have created a situation of
10 violence. The issue has created a situation of violence.
11 It has made a law enforcement officer who I know, retired,
12 go to the ultimate step because people don't communicate.
13 We have ruined a person's life.
14 We have created a situation beyond control, not only
15 to that point and Richard knows that. I'm very good friends
16 with him. I have nothing personal, and I support the
17 Commissioner, but I am concerned about this violent attitude
18 that's taken over a quiet community, which I purchased a
19 house and thought my wife and my family would be safe in.
20 We have become animals instead of human beings discussing
21 issues, and we have to say that.
22 Last thing I want to say, I stood in that street
23 with trees covering the road. The Commissioner was there, a
24 lot of personalities here, that shows me what happens when
25 you close the streets. People could have been hurt, and you

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1 couldn't get through that tree. We watched it. It took a


2 week to remove it. I'm concerned about creating more walls.
3 First, I'm not in favor of walls, and to me this is just
4 another wall. Okay. Any way I'm not in favor of a wall.
5 The last thing I want to converse and I think it's
6 very important, I have been watching that, I have been video
7 taping, the Commissioner knows it. I have requested a video
8 tape with professionals. There was an accident yesterday.
9 That should surely shows that that blockage created more
10 accidents because we have been witnesses to them. If you're
11 talking about safety and that creates accidents, where is
12 the safety, if you're creating accidents. We watch them.
13 My grandson almost got hit by a car, creating a u-turn,
14 because they don't let u-turns get around. Now, it's
15 confused. It's how you get in rat trapped in a maze. And I
16 know I had two minutes, but I exceeded two.
17 The last thing I want to say is that this increasing
18 of more violence to more insults to more bullying on -- and
19 I'm asking the police to put a watch list on the bullying.
20 Now, that is bullying I'm seeing on the Internet. I only
21 went on twice, but I do not tolerate bullying of women, of
22 children, or individuals that think differently. And I
23 think our government should take steps to stop the bullying
24 and to stop where you're pushing people to do things that
25 are out of their control because they're under duress.

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1 Please, on behalf of Mr. Murphy, who I know, is a


2 good neighbor of mine, please stop this situation.
3 (Audience applause.)
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So I agree. I think that the
5 discussion has become toxic. It's embarrassing to be honest
6 with you. I think some of the things that I've heard people
7 say to each other is shocking to be honest with you. And,
8 you know, obviously it's sad. I do not believe that you
9 blame someone else. If you take the law into your own hands
10 and destroy property, I don't think you can blame someone
11 else for that. I'm sorry. That's just my personal opinion.
12 You know, everyone here is responsible for their own
13 behavior and personality. If you don't like what's
14 happening, that's why you're here to express what's
15 happening. This is a project, okay?
16 As we saw from the first people, who did a very good
17 job of articulating, we had perspective, which he said,
18 traffic will be moved from certain high volume streets to
19 other high volume streets, right? That's what he said.
20 What that means is that those high volume streets are not
21 high volume, the kind of volume that you all -- many of you
22 have been complaining about for 12 years. You all have had
23 it for five months, okay? And I'm not -- that's the truth.
24 (Audience reaction.)
25 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: That is the truth, guys. That

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1 is the truth. I'm sorry. I'm not going to -- no, no, no


2 guys, guys that is the truth. That is the truth. That
3 is -- I'm not saying it's right. Listen, I'm not saying
4 it's right. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying at best
5 that is the truth, Okay? And so I ask you, we need to be
6 honest, and I'm not going to sit up here and always commit
7 to what's popular or what gets an applause. I'm just trying
8 to be honest and fair about what's going on here, okay? And
9 so I don't think screaming is dignified. I don't think
10 interrupting people is correct, okay? I think you're going
11 to have an opportunity to speak if you want to speak, and
12 you can make your point. And everybody else that gets to
13 speak can make their point, and that's the way we should
14 conduct ourselves. Because we're all adults, and we're all
15 civilized and we live in a wonderful city and a wonderful
16 country.
17 MS. BETTY: Good morning, my name is Betty and I
18 live on 25th Street east side, three blocks -- three houses
19 down from the pre-K school, where all the u-turns are
20 happening. Now, we are also experiencing u-turns that are
21 coming in from 25th Terrace. We have them from multiple
22 directions.
23 The traffic that is going through that street now,
24 it is unbearable. I'm totally against this project the way
25 it is now, not only the traffic, but the pollution that we

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1 are taking. The houses are very close to the sidewalks. It


2 is just unbearable. We, like Mr. Robert has mentioned
3 before here, he is my neighbor, we have no curbs, we have no
4 proper signage throughout. It is one of the streets that is
5 completely deteriorated and with the funneling of this
6 traffic that is intaking from the other streets that are
7 closed, it is unbearable. Thank you.
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: What Terrace?
9 MS. BETTY: 25th Street.
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Sorry. Thank you.
11 MS. BETTY: Oh, excuse me. A couple of more things.
12 I am not going put it on comments because my correspondence
13 to your office, and it is here as well have not gone
14 answered. So I have witnessed inaccurate counting. There
15 has -- and as I mentioned earlier here, there was a
16 reporting to Waze that there was a traffic jam on
17 25th Street when there was not. The counters were basically
18 teenagers writing on a piece of paper and pencil. Actually,
19 they left early right before the rush traffic hour. So I'm
20 really doubting that the counts that are coming in are
21 accurate. I don't think so. So I think there should be
22 another way more professionally conducted.
23 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you. So I too share
24 concerns about the age of the kids that were counting. I
25 expressed that to the consultant because -- even if that is

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1 the standard, which apparently it is the standard, I think


2 the high level of sensitivity of this project requires that
3 you have people who are trained and adults to do those
4 counts. I have expressed that to him, and I will say this,
5 there's a little confusion that the -- so there's two kinds
6 of counts. One is what they call the rumble strips.
7 MS. BETTY: I haven't seen that on my street.
8 There's none on my street, and it's not one of the open
9 streets.
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Okay. So I was told that
11 there was one.
12 MS. BETTY: No. I can witness to that there is not.
13 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: That's a problem.
14 MS. BETTY: That is a big problem.
15 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: That's not what I was told.
16 That's not what I was told. I was hold there -- I was told
17 that there was rumble strips and that the kids were doing
18 directional counts. That's what I was told --
19 MS BETTY: No.
20 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: -- prior to today. So
21 understood. You don't need to repeat it. I understand.
22 That's what I was told and so --
23 MS. BETTY: Another good way that I think would be
24 very positive for us to focus on are the traffic lights on
25 US-1. Those need to be synchronized. They're completely

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1 and there's so many blinking lights out there throughout the


2 county. I don't understand what is happening with that.
3 That's a problem in US-1 are traffic lights. That
4 is what's causing all the bottle necking.
5 MS. BRAVO: Good morning. My name is Alice Bravo,
6 director of transportation and public works for Miami-Dade
7 County, and US-1 is one of our top corridors. We have it
8 listed as a top 10 corridor in Miami-Dade County, and we
9 focus on so many resources to improve the synchronization.
10 And we actually have improved to the point where we shaved
11 off 12 minutes of the traffic time from 152nd to
12 17th Avenue.
13 Now, we are going to the next step where we are
14 installing the smart signals which will include that
15 synchronization further. That was the contract that's
16 referred to by our county commissioner earlier this year.
17 So US-1 is our top focus among Miami-Dade County.
18 MS. BETTY: It's a big, big problem.
19 MS. BRAVO: Now, with regard to the blinking lights,
20 we are still recovering from the effects of the hurricane
21 and basically, we have the 2,776 signals and the day after
22 the storm 2,200 didn't have power. So we recovered the
23 power, but FPL did a lot of patches and now they're going go
24 back and doing the improvements, so bear with us. We're
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1 normal.
2 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Are you going to attack the
3 rumble strip issue? Go ahead.
4 MR. GIOVANNI: Commissioner, the intent of this
5 study that we're doing now is basically to mimic the data
6 collection that was done in the previous study. Now, in
7 that data collection there were some streets that we were
8 using rumble strips, there were others that we did not.
9 Specifically, the street that you were talking about, we did
10 not have a rumble strip there. We are using it in the other
11 one. And again, our intent is to mimic this same data that
12 we did before for the purpose of comparison.
13 MS. BETTY: That doesn't make sense. It doesn't
14 make sense because we're getting all the traffic from the
15 other streets. So that should be also put on our street in
16 order to get an accurate count.
17 MR. GIOVANNI: When you do take the traffic movement
18 counts, you are in essence taking every turn that goes
19 through the street. So that does give you an idea of the
20 volume that goes through there and that was to mimic what
21 was before so we can compare.
22 MS. BETTY: The strip that I saw is between
23 25th Street and 25th Terrace on Southwest 22nd Avenue. The
24 street that I live is 25th Street. So how are you going to
25 get an accurate count from my street that's making a left

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1 heading south -- excuse me heading -- yes south, because on


2 the other side there's no strip.
3 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Good morning.
4 MS. BETTY: Good morning.
5 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: My name is Brad, and I'm
6 with Trident Engineering. The -- first, let me answer the
7 question that you asked just now. We keep calling them
8 kids. They are not kids, they are adults. They're from
9 Miami-Dade College. These are students that want to get
10 some experience and that's how we got them to come and do
11 the count because I as small company, I do not have endless
12 staff. Many times I do have situations like this --
13 MS. BETTY: I understand that, sir, but --
14 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: So let me -- let me -- so
15 I'm answering your question. The left turn are counted by
16 the people who are standing there. They are counting the
17 left turn, the right turn, and the through traffic. So like
18 Giovanni pointed out, that's what we did before in late
19 2016, and we are comparing -- trying to compare the data
20 that we had before with the new data that we have.
21 Now, the folks that we are talking about, they were
22 put on 19th Avenue, 23rd Avenue, 24th Avenue, and
23 25th Avenue. The idea is we're trying to figure out if the
24 traffic is getting diverted through the neighborhood because
25 of the closure. If you make the use of the north-south

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1 street more, other than putting 22nd Avenue so that we can


2 compare the previous traffic with the new traffic.
3 Now, of course the street that you live on, the
4 traffic that they are comparing is during the peak time,
5 because that is when -- that is when --
6 MS. BETTY: No, actually they left at six o'clock.
7 Peak time is around 6:30 and 6:45. I have figures that I
8 would like to share with you, Brad.
9 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: So what we are trying to
10 compare the data before and the data now so that we can
11 compare the peak hours that traditionally fall between seven
12 and nine o'clock. We try to pick the peak time that comes
13 out of the data that we collect, then we're going to be
14 comparing them. And that would be the report that you will
15 be seeing soon coming out.
16 And one last thing I want to point out, you
17 mentioned that so-called kids, well, they're not. They are
18 college students. You said that they we're not there and
19 they left early.
20 MS. BETTY: Yes, they did.
21 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: I am right here, even I
22 drove around. We made such --
23 AUDIENCE MEMBER: That's not true.
24 MS. BETTY: That's not true, sir. It was a little
25 bit, it was like 5:50 p.m. I have my video.

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1 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: 5:50?


2 MS. BETTY: 5:50 p.m. I have it on my video that I
3 would like to share with you.
4 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Definitely. I would like
5 to take a look at it. Now, there was one day they was --
6 they was not able to finish it. So we went back and
7 counted. But I would like to see --
8 MS. BETTY: That's interesting. There's quite a few
9 traffic there at 3:00 or so. It's during the entire day,
10 actually.
11 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: But, you know, like we
12 pointed out before, we're trying to compare what we had
13 there before with the new data. But if you do have reasons
14 to say that the counters were not there, I would like to
15 take a look at it. If they did leave, I promise you we're
16 going to count again.
17 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: The problem with that is that
18 I think that there is a huge amount of desire to have some
19 finality, and I think every delay, any data, anything that
20 delays things, creates more --
21 MS. BETTY: And it's accuracy. It should be
22 accurate.
23 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: It creates more anxiety, it
24 creates more anger, it creates more stress. And so --
25 MS. BETTY: We've over this what, three and half

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1 months and the poles are still up. Now, we have another
2 month to go with the poles up.
3 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Right now, I'm calling
4 November 3rd, which is 9 plus 3, 10 plus 3, 13 days.
5 MS. BETTY: Thank you.
6 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am.
7 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Inhale love, exhale peace. This
8 is not directed at anyone in particular, but the quality of
9 my life has been affected. It's a disservice to make this
10 issue on old residents verses new residents narrative. It
11 is not. I'm an old resident and I don't agree with the
12 project in its current implementation.
13 It's not reasonable and/or democratic to improve the
14 quality of life for some while affecting and diminishing the
15 quality of life of others. And quickly, I offer a solution,
16 which the gentleman already mentioned. Here's the solution
17 to better monitor and control traffic. We need more police
18 presence in our streets not in El Carajo drinking coffee.
19 Okay, did I beat the clock? Thank you.
20 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hello, I live in Shenandoah at
21 17th Terrace between 18th and 19th Avenue. I'm here because
22 I'm concerned how this may in the future affect our
23 neighborhood. I'm also here because I have a dear friend
24 who lives on Southwest 23rd Terrace who can't be here
25 because she's ill, and I was leaving her home Thursday

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1 afternoon, going west on 23rd Terrace. It was 5:55 in the


2 afternoon. I was making a right-hand turn at 22nd Avenue
3 and I can assure you there was nobody there counting the
4 traffic.
5 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: What day was that?
6 AUDIENCE MEMBER: This past Thursday, 5:55. I had
7 to wait for a couple of minutes to make a right-hand turn
8 because the traffic was so backed up. So I had plenty of
9 time to observe if there was anybody there.
10 I think this is too sensitive an issue that we're
11 not having electronic counters to allow this to be left to
12 human error is crazy. Also, this -- the woman that spoke
13 previously and talked about first responders, fire, police,
14 rescue, I didn't hear any mention of that during any of the
15 presentation before. And I concur with the city planner
16 that we should have a group setting, where neighborhoods
17 come in and do a plan together, and that a representative
18 from all those departments should be there to share how they
19 feel that closures will impact their concerns.
20 And then just one other thought in regards to the --
21 I know 17th Avenue is on the end of Silver Bluff, but during
22 rush hour traffic on 17th Avenue and US-1, there's not a
23 turning signal. For some reason, the turning signal goes
24 off during the rush hour when you need it the most. So it
25 causes people like myself, frankly, to go through Silver

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1 Bluff to make a turn on 22nd Avenue where there's a traffic


2 turn, or I'm cutting through the roads because I know when I
3 leave in the morning, I can't make that left-hand turn onto
4 US-1. And it's been like that for years, and for the life
5 of me I have no idea why.
6 (Audience interruption.)
7 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Why do you turn the traffic signal
8 off during rush hour, all of them?
9 MS. BRAVO: Good morning, Alice Bravo again. During
10 rush hour traffic, different decisions have to be made with
11 regard to the synchronization of US-1. And basically, in
12 each intersection you only have so much green time to
13 distribute and so based on traffic demand, et cetera, during
14 phases, a left-turn phase is suspended because that movement
15 is very light when compared to the heavy flow on US-1 and
16 when the decisions are made there's --
17 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I'm not sure if you live in that
18 area, but if you lived in that area, you would understand
19 that because you can't make a left-hand turn during rush
20 hour, it's causing drivers to go into the neighborhood to go
21 on what's -- people have to go there, and it's causing --
22 frankly causing traffic on Calle Ocho because it's the only
23 was to get on 95 now.
24 MS. BRAVO: Again, now, we're installing controllers
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1 timings will be revamped.


2 MR. ROYER: Hi everybody. My name is Jed Royer.
3 I'm the chairman of the Shenandoah Neighborhood Association.
4 Since there's been a lot of blowup of the neighborhood,
5 Shenandoah attacked, we've had Silver Bluff people coming to
6 our meetings. I spoke to Ben from Silver Bluff today, love
7 the conversation, thank you, and he was, what are you guys
8 doing in Shenandoah? I thought it was important for at
9 least for me to sound off and to share my observations of
10 this issue.
11 Number 1, even though the tone -- and I've been
12 disappointed with the tone from neighbors. Like the
13 Commissioner, I've been upset and certainly disappointed
14 with that. I'm encouraged. I'm encouraged by how many
15 people are in this room today on a Saturday to address this
16 issue. And I will tell you that the Silver Bluff
17 cut-through traffic issue is a major issue that we have to
18 solve or we will solve. And I lived in Silver Bluff for
19 five years, and it's tough. It's difficult and the apps
20 likes Waze and Uber just make it more difficult for the
21 lifestyle and the quality of life there.
22 But we're going to solve this together and we're
23 going to solve this not at the expense of other
24 neighborhoods. I will tell you that some of the things --
25 and that's what we're working for and that's what our

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1 Commissioner and soon to be mayor and the new generation of


2 commissioners are going to be challenged with. And we're
3 going to hold their feet to the fire. And as far as
4 electricity during the hurricane, all of the sudden you're
5 not worrying about the electricity any more. The
6 Commissioner was out there trying to get FPL back out for
7 the homes that were still 10 days, 11 days in, myself
8 included. I was doing the same thing, and I think that's
9 important that we don't abandon our neighbors.
10 And whether they're living on an open street or
11 they're dissatisfied with the project, we need to come up
12 with a solution. We need to get creative. And for examples
13 of challenging the Commissioner, Commissioner, the fire
14 station project that we had, that's a great example where
15 there was a fire station. Remember, the fire station is
16 still there in Shenandoah Park. They finally came to us
17 after 10 years and said, sorry it's got to be here. We
18 can't find land. $4 million to spend and acquire property
19 and we put our foot down, fire people, and said, it's a
20 shame, it's going to happen. We've got to have a fire
21 station in your park. And we said, we're not saying no to
22 fire station, we saying not at the expense of our
23 neighborhood, not at the expense of our park.
24 And I think that's one of the observations I've seen
25 with people about there maybe -- and when we talk about $4

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1 million, we got out in the neighborhood, we solved the fire


2 problem because they have to make their numbers. They have
3 to have a certain number of stations to be able to have
4 response times at the level they want. They get their
5 bonuses, the neighborhood keeps the park, and everyone's
6 happy. But it took extra effort. It took a lot of effort
7 and we really challenged and you lived up to the challenge.
8 And that's what I think we need to do here.
9 We need to challenge the Commissioner, the mayor,
10 the city planners, CIC, Giovanni, et cetera, to come up,
11 because I tell you that what I recognize now, even from the
12 Commissioner himself, the shared that there can be or there
13 could be a push towards closing off neighborhoods. And my
14 observations for barring this event 9 out of 10 people say
15 huh-uh, we want open streets. We need to get more creative.
16 So I want to continue to challenge you and all of us. Thank
17 you very much.
18 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hello, I live on 16th Street and
19 there's plenty of traffic everyday on our street. And the
20 streets are public, they are paid through our taxes,
21 wherever those get distributed. If we work together for the
22 true safety of the city, we leave streets open and everybody
23 deserves to live. They are designed for those purposes.
24 That is the true nature of the streets, to commute, for
25 everybody to use it. It is not designed for children to

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1 play or for dogs to walk. We have sidewalks for those uses.


2 The romantic concept of a neighborhood are posterior to the
3 mention of the streets. They are wonderful concepts, but
4 you cannot destroy the many uses to provide later. The
5 later came as a result of suburban life. We do not live in
6 the suburbs anymore. We are closer and closer to the core.
7 And the core keeps expanding. We have been raised -- I have
8 been raised on principles where all share equally, the good,
9 the bad, sometime the bad, yes, but we have to -- but we
10 cannot accept what I cannot accept is to carry the added
11 load of the bad people.
12 Some people are not going to absorb their share.
13 In -- on some comments that were made earlier today, Coconut
14 Grove has an entity to protect the lush vegetation. We can
15 add that if we want to go that route. Beautification of the
16 this project is really not the problem. It is the lack of
17 planning and the lack of inclusion from professional experts
18 that truly design cities and the city has at arms reach a
19 number of successful professionals to really rely upon.
20 Architects, planners, fire department, engineers, and now
21 they've hired a traffic engineer to command the survey. So
22 if we put all of them together on the table and we use the
23 resources and try to find what yields the best project, I
24 think we can achieve a solution.
25 Public transportation will alleviate the problem,

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1 but it will not resolve it. Elderly people, family with


2 young children like I have a two year old and a four year
3 old, we rely on the car. There are some things that we
4 cannot do on a bus, so we need to provide a conclusive
5 solution. Thank you.
6 MR. CANO: My name is Cesar Cano. I agree with
7 Commissioner Suarez, but we need a master plan, because
8 without that, it's -- we need like -- we just need the
9 county, the state and all that. It's only so much we can do
10 to satisfy the others. For example, like in the seventies
11 when they made the expressway and all that, they stopped
12 right before 17th Avenue. If they could extend it a little
13 further, of course, we wouldn't have all these problems. It
14 would all just flow through and there wouldn't be cutting
15 through our neighborhoods. So somehow, how do we reach the
16 state. He says he tried and -- how do we put pressure on
17 them so they, you know, so they feel the pressure. That's
18 one thing.
19 So yeah, I would like to see the expressway extended
20 on US-1 past maybe like to 40th or whatever, or further --
21 and even some humps where 27th Avenue goes through, I don't
22 know. Just to relieve the -- that's where it all comes
23 from. And okay, that's the obvious solution and long-term.
24 For the closed -- Silver Bluff closing all that, it's still,
25 they're going to come in one and go out the other. If you

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1 do like in other places, you just close it on like 22nd to


2 27th around US-1, because it's all storage that's there
3 anyway, that would let people come in, go to their houses,
4 eliminate all the drive through. They got to stay on -- the
5 only exits on US-1 too on 27th or on 22nd. So there's --
6 they're not going to go through. Only the locals.
7 Eliminate all the traffic as safe -- I mean, that nobody
8 wants all the traffic to go through their house. This let's
9 only locals on that area, you know. I don't know what they
10 allow. I don't know if that's -- but anyway, that's just my
11 idea. Just to throw in there. Thanks.
12 MS SASSY: My name is Denise Sassy and I live in
13 Shenandoah, and I'm also speaking on behalf of Irene and
14 Diana who are on the corner of 23rd Terrace and 22nd Avenue
15 in Silver Bluff. They are on the west side.
16 First of all, I would like to highlight they've
17 given me their time and my daughter in the corner gave me
18 her time, but I don't think I need it all. Irene and Diana
19 want me to express the magnitude of traffic that is going
20 down the west part of 23rd Terrace. As bad as it is on the
21 east, all the cars going down 24th Street and 24th Terrace
22 take the right, go north and then on that intersection on
23 23rd Terrace, you have the ones trying to cross
24 23rd Terrace, as well, as they've seen many, many accidents
25 since the poles have come up.

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1 It's a very dangerous situation. They're in --


2 their quality of life, they literally cannot drive and back
3 out of their driveways, because they're taking on the
4 traffic for basically three streets. Either those
5 streets -- those cars doing a uey and go back down south,
6 but the majority -- and I've seen this personally -- take a
7 left and go down 23rd Terrace to the west. So that is
8 something that definitely needs to be looked at. Crosswalks
9 and things, lights that actually stop where the bus stops
10 are, all those kinds of things, I think, Antonio very
11 succinctly talked about other options other than reducing
12 lanes and blocking streets.
13 My biggest concern about this whole initiative is
14 that just because we may think something in the short-term
15 is beneficial, does not mean that it's going to positively
16 affect our quality of life down the road. I want everyone
17 to think for a minute. First of all, if you look at other
18 neighborhood closures, Morningside is on the water. Coral
19 Gables five to seven to eight to nine miles away from the
20 city's center. The closer you get to the city center,
21 there's less ancillary road closures. We are playing with
22 fire here in closing down neighborhoods. If we -- imagine
23 Silver Bluff closing, then imagine the roads closing, then
24 imagine Shenandoah closing. Where would our traffic go?
25 We're not just talking about the neighborhood within Silver

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1 Bluff right now, when they're talking about, I have to go


2 10 extra minutes to Publix. We're talking about literal
3 stand-still on our roadways. It is not right to allow one
4 neighborhood to close, if you do not allow all. Is that not
5 correct? But can our roads in the capacity that they are
6 now, handle all those closures?
7 I have four small children, the youngest is three
8 and the oldest is seven. I would love to be able to stand
9 on my front porch with an iced tea when they're playing on
10 the sidewalk, and sit there and be able to not be worried.
11 But instead I stand on the sidewalk to make sure that no one
12 goes into the street. We all have traffic issues. My point
13 is if we are asking for this, can our infrastructure, all of
14 the public transportation, all the major roadways for people
15 to go into town, go from all the areas of the county to the
16 west. Where are the plans and the infrastructure and
17 where's the money even in the $500 million bailout for
18 public transportation system? Nothing is being spoken about
19 this issue. It is not realistic to close neighborhoods at
20 this point.
21 Give me first a public transportation long and short
22 term goals and plans. Give me a plan for how I'm going to
23 be able to get out of my neighborhood and even though it
24 takes me five minutes now, what could feasibly and not
25 unrealistically now or in the future if all the

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1 neighborhoods close take 20 to 30 minutes for just trips


2 within our own neighborhoods.
3 This is -- we have to be careful what we're asking
4 for. As a parent, I don't give my children everything that
5 they want. I give my children what they need. I don't play
6 favorites within my children. I look at them and I say what
7 is best for my family. The family we're talking about here
8 is the City of Miami. What is best for us, yes, better for
9 us or for all of the rest of the county, I don't see any
10 problems with that. But not better from one street to the
11 next to one neighborhood to the next.
12 If we don't get the kind of conversations that are
13 really going to make a long term difference, we are just
14 hurting the people we love, which can be seen by the huge
15 division that's taking place. And it pains me to see
16 neighbors against neighbors. How I view that is people are
17 fighting for their livelihood. They're fighting for what
18 they feel is just. And injustice anywhere is an injustice
19 everywhere. We are all combined and in a network of
20 mutuality. This cannot be done without a comprehensive plan
21 with all the neighborhoods. Poles need to be removed.
22 We need to do a tree study that is concrete, that is
23 Shenandoah roads, Silver Bluff, Little Havana and it needs
24 to be done in a way that we can slow traffic down and still
25 allow us to move around our own neighborhood. Thank you.

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1 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: You have hit a lot of points


2 there. There's a couple that I do want to address. I do
3 have to say for the record that I have made a point of
4 talking mass transit. I, along with Commissioner Barreiro
5 who is here, and calling on the PPO, I proposed a plan
6 called the SMART plan, the Strategic Miami Area Rapid
7 Transit plan, which would increase transit by six different
8 directions, mass transit. Most importantly, we recently
9 have taken steps to prioritize some of the corridors. I
10 haven't come up with a final framework, so I just don't want
11 it to be left out there that public officials are not
12 dealing with that issue.
13 I can tell you in the city commission, I'm the only
14 commissioner on that board. Everybody else there is the
15 mayor or county commissioner, and I'm vice chairman twice
16 nominated there because I've taken the time and the energy
17 to visit every single major city in the U.S. I visited
18 St. Petersburg, Florida. I visited Houston, San Diego, Los
19 Angeles, Denver, Boston, New York, and Washington, D.C. a
20 couple of times, so I've been fighting very hard. It's a
21 macro issue and it's going to cost 3.6 to $4 billion to
22 solve. And we have fought really hard to give -- and I have
23 to give Commissioner Barreiro a lot of credit. We fought
24 hard to get to advance the ball, but nothing was done for a
25 long time. And the county and city was we need to grow,

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1 grow, grow and we're seeing the results of that now.


2 And it's manifesting itself in a variety of
3 different things and for me, what's very upsetting is that
4 it is, in fact, dividing a neighborhood in this particular
5 case. That is certainly not what was intended and the fact
6 that people are getting involved is a good thing overall.
7 And I do think that there needs to be a comprehensive look
8 at how we deal with this issue. It's not just a
9 one-neighborhood issue, a one-neighborhood solution, so
10 fault me if you want.
11 I mean, I've gone to, you know, all the homeowners'
12 association meetings, whatever meeting that anyone has,
13 whether there's a neighborhood meeting at a corner or large
14 community meeting, I try to attend all of them. I try to be
15 accessible. I give you all my cell phone number. Most of
16 you text, call, e-mail me and if I didn't respond to your
17 e-mails right a way, I'm sorry. I get a lot of e-mails,
18 texts and I try to respond to them, which I was doing for a
19 while. So, you know, I sort of agree with your point in
20 that sense, but at the same time, some neighborhoods are
21 closed and that's a reality. Those neighborhoods are not
22 going to open.
23 I promise you, if you decided right now to open up
24 those neighborhoods to sort of in a utilitarian way, share
25 our streets with everyone, which I think is a good

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1 principle, I promise you that the amount of people in this


2 building would be 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 times, and this
3 conversation would get to a change really, really quickly.
4 What -- I'm a Libra, okay, so I try to have a sense of
5 fairness and what disturbs me here is that there seems to be
6 a shift. In one neighborhood there seems to be a shift
7 between streets that have a lot of quality and streets that
8 didn't have as much quality now seems to have shifted, and
9 that's a concern, okay? But to make this about something
10 more than that is not really right now what this is about.
11 And that's what I'm worried about this neighborhood. Anyone
12 else?
13 AUDIENCE MEMBER: My wife gave me her time, probably
14 won't need it. We live on the corner of 25th Street and
15 21st Avenue, so the two smaller streets in the neighborhood.
16 I work in UM and she works at FIU, so I have to go south to
17 get to work in the morning, and she goes up to Calle Ocho.
18 For me get to US-1 on 22nd Avenue is a nightmare because I
19 have to make that left, so I like the idea of a traffic
20 peanut. And for her to get 22nd Avenue north for her to get
21 Calle Ocho to be able to get to work, we need access to
22 that. But the peanut would actually allow easy cross
23 traffic.
24 Have you guys thought of using like those little
25 curve extensions, like the peanut on 27th Avenue in the

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1 Grove, that prevents egress from the circle on to the side


2 streets, because it would allow people on 25th Street still
3 access the 22nd Avenue going north and south, but on east
4 and west.
5 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So what I would suggest is, if
6 you have an idea like that, which sounds like a good idea,
7 the first gentleman that spoke had some ideas on some
8 others. Please send us an e-mail with that and then we will
9 have the engineers analyze that and give you feedback.
10 AUDIENCE MEMBER: And the other question I had was
11 with regard to the street on 25th Street where they put the
12 traffic-cone thing, five or six of the properties on that
13 particular part of street are developer-owned or
14 absentee-landlord rented, so how do we go about getting
15 people --
16 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: That's a great question. So
17 there's limitations sometimes on neighborhood concurrency
18 because we can't get ahold of the owner. So the owner is in
19 another country and we are often times not able get ahold of
20 them. So if that's the case, we will work with the County
21 to see what flexibility they will give us, because if that's
22 who are the ones we can't get ahold of, 90 percent or
23 100 percent in favor, and it's just a traffic table, we will
24 work with the County. Again, they have been wonderful in
25 helping us with this issue.

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1 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Okay, cool. Thank you.


2 MR. RECK: Al Reck, 13th Avenue and 15th Street. I
3 want to thank you for hearing us out, and I'm hoping you can
4 kind of give us your perspective. The fact that every city
5 in the world deals with this is a symbol of all car-buoyant
6 cities, and also the fact that the ones best coping with
7 this have viable public transportation systems, as you
8 mentioned. Cities like LA, Sao Paulo spend hours a day in
9 traffic. Miami is clearly a car city, unfortunately, with a
10 serious lack of public transit and we are trying to improve
11 that, but we're very, very far behind. We're almost
12 overbuilt and we're too spread out.
13 What's my point? We can't close neighborhoods until
14 we have a viable public transit solution. Why? If you
15 close Silver Bluff, you don't reduce to mitigate traffic, it
16 goes somewhere else. It's not like people are stuck taking
17 public transit because they can't get through cut-through
18 streets. So what do you do next? Shenandoah suffers, what
19 did you do? You close it off. The Roads suffer, what you
20 do? You close it off. What do we when we want to go to
21 Publix? It takes an hour on Coral Way because of all the
22 cars. There is no other solution. To me, it's like we
23 don't need to be an engineer to realize. It's common sense.
24 That's it. Thanks.
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1 MR. BACTUCCI: Jose Bactucci. I live in Shenandoah


2 off of 22nd Avenue. I can say that I also get cut-through
3 traffic. A tree -- a speeding truck hit a tree and the tree
4 fell on my house just because it was cutting through my
5 local neighborhood. I have seen car accidents on
6 22nd Avenue. So the issue here really is, it's a bigger
7 issue than what we're saying it is today. What I ask for
8 the -- what I'm asking the City is for these types of
9 situations to work with more people with the County, City,
10 State, everybody should be working together even the
11 Federal. The problem with 27th Avenue could have been a
12 problem of miscommunication, and now Silver Bluff there,
13 their issue has been exacerbated. So this will only get
14 worse if we have the only position of closing off streets.
15 I would encourage to just have -- identify the
16 problems and improve traffic signals and lights, if
17 necessary. Use technology to reduce, you know, make traffic
18 lights faster. And if that's already in the works, let's
19 make that faster. Let's not wait years. Let's push
20 federal, let's push state to get better funding and get this
21 going faster because closing off neighborhoods is not the
22 solution.
23 Also, have a board of citizens that talk about the
24 issues and include the citizens that are here. And also,
25 make an effort of sending communication out by mail, through

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1 social media, so that it's not only the homeowners to bear


2 the communication, it's going to be the City that bears that
3 responsibility for these types of projects. And encourage
4 people to use share-ride apps like Uber and Lyft so they
5 don't take -- they're not are going from Kendall to Brickell
6 in their cars, but rather, they're getting an incentive to
7 leave their cars at home. Thank you.
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you. You know, one
9 thing that's hard about -- I agree with a lot of things you
10 said. One of the things that's hard about this is, I
11 thought today was a very well-attended meeting. We tried to
12 put a notice on every single person's door and also on
13 Nextdoor and all that. But we counted 176 speakers, so
14 176 speakers that are to speak in two neighborhoods that
15 their gross population is 4,000, which means that there's
16 3,800 people not here. That's 3,800 people that's not here.
17 If we made a decision here today, what are those 3,800
18 people going to say, that they weren't noticed? That they
19 didn't know about it? That's a concern.
20 AUDIENCE MEMBER: That needs to be left the way it
21 was.
22 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: The issue is -- the issue is
23 not that. The issue is we try to comprehensively notice
24 this meeting between 176 -- let's say there's 200, 250
25 people. That means that 3,800 people are not here. So if

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1 we made a decision, whatever decision we made here right now


2 based on --
3 AUDIENCE MEMBER: We wouldn't be here today if --
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: This is not a back and forth.
5 This is not a back and forth. That means that 3,800 people
6 were not involved. We have to be okay with that. As a
7 community --
8 AUDIENCE MEMBER: When you say 3,800 people, is it
9 3,800 homes or people within the homes?
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: It's a guesstimate. It's
11 guesstimate of the population of the two neighborhoods.
12 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Per person, not home. I'm
13 representing my home.
14 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: It's a guesstimate. So it
15 could be even be bigger, 5,000. It could be 10,000. So my
16 point is even greater --
17 AUDIENCE MEMBER: We don't even have that --
18 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: My point is, we tried to
19 notify all of the 5-, 10,000 people and we have 200. So
20 that is what is imperfection is trying to make a decision.
21 We try to notify the public, we try to notify the people,
22 but you still only have a fraction of the people. So if we
23 make a decision and it impacts all those 5,000, 10,000
24 people that are not here, they're going to say, hey.
25 AUDIENCE MEMBER: That's what happens with this

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1 project.
2 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: No, no, no, listen. If you
3 can speak when you have an opportunity to speak. This is
4 not going to be Nextdoor, I am sorry to tell you. This is
5 not going to be Nextdoor.
6 (Audience applause.)
7 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So if you want to speak and
8 you have an opportunity -- you've spoken many times. So if
9 you want to speak you are welcome to come up here and --
10 AUDIENCE MEMBER: You're taking up their time.
11 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Ma'am, please.
12 MR. STEINMAN: My name is Christopher Steinman. I
13 live at 2831 Southwest 24th Street. We've owned our home
14 since 1981 and before that, I lived just east of there on
15 22nd Terrace. I remember when 22nd Avenue was widened from
16 two to four lanes and became a really big north-south
17 corridor --
18 (Audience interruption.)
19 MR. STEINMAN: Christopher Steinman. I live on
20 24th Street. I've been either a homeowner since '81, or in
21 the neighborhood since 1970. I've witnessed a widening of
22 22nd Avenue from two to four lanes. I've been to many
23 homeowner association meetings and I wanted to be
24 appreciative of all the time she has dedicated to the
25 homeowners association. When I first started with the

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1 homeowners association, we were dealing with the Golden Arms


2 Hotel or apartment building on 24th Street, and now we are
3 dealing with our traffic issues. At first, I was in favor
4 of the project as I went to the meetings and looked really
5 beautiful on paper. But in practice, I see it's got bugs in
6 it.
7 I liked what Eduardo said about reducing the width
8 of the lanes on 22nd Avenue. That sounds good to me. This
9 to me is like when you're sick -- I've got shingles right
10 now. I'm taking medication for it. It's not contagious.
11 But if you take a medication, sometimes there are side
12 effects. So, you know, hopefully, the side effects are not
13 as bad as the original disease. Sometimes they are and you
14 say, okay, this medicine isn't working and you have to try
15 another approach.
16 We have to do something about the traffic, but I
17 think that the project as we're seeing it has flaws that
18 need to be worked out. That's why I'm in favor of what
19 Eduardo said. Thank you.
20 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you.
21 MS. TATIANA: My name is Tatiana, and I live on
22 23rd Terrace. I'm completely against this project. I'm
23 just going to touch on points. It has become very hazardous
24 to live on 23rd Street. From me trying to cross the street
25 is an issue. Terrace, I'm sorry Terrace. It's been a

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1 whirlwind trying to control traffic. It's not happening


2 from the first week of this project. We've already had our
3 garbage cans being hit by speed drivers and to top it off,
4 now that you mention it, Nextdoor. Again, Nextdoor has been
5 a bullying application from the beginning. We joined later
6 in the group when we had actually revolted and decided to
7 speak up against what was going on.
8 In the beginning of this, it was actually the other
9 way around. We had an HOA, an unofficial HOA because we did
10 not find out about the HOA in the neighborhood. That HOA
11 hijacked that application to the point where I'm still
12 blocked from it because the president decided to report me
13 and blocked me from it because I was against the project and
14 other people that's voicing their opinion against the
15 project. Now that more people are speaking against the
16 project, it's all of a sudden a hostile environment.
17 The people that created those hostile environments,
18 those were the ones that started that and those were the HOA
19 that have control over what was being posted and what was
20 being shared, meetings, whatever was going on to the point
21 where I think that -- I don't know if I'm mistaken, but
22 apparently, you have to pay an association fee to even be
23 able to go into their website and see anything, okay?
24 (Audience interruption.)
25 MS. TATIANA: We in our neighborhood are not an HOA.

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1 We are not. We rely on you guys to be our people. And to


2 think that all of this started and we were not notified,
3 because we weren't. What, the 19 people that went to that
4 meeting? Those where the people that were notified.
5 Population is not decreasing, it's increasing. So what are
6 you doing? You want to funnel everything into two streets
7 and then to top it off, closing the neighborhood. Where do
8 you think the traffic is going to go? It's common sense,
9 guys. Like, it's not a big deal to think about it. It is
10 what it is. We're not going to stop people from driving
11 their cars. This is how Miami lives.
12 And it's true, this goes back to transit. It goes
13 back to improving our public transportation, but until that
14 happens, closing streets is not the solution. Closing out
15 neighborhoods is not the solution. Funneling everybody is
16 also a problem to our street and is causing violence in our
17 neighborhood to the point where we don't want to share our
18 address because of the bullying that Nextdoor has created.
19 Thank you.
20 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you. Just to say a
21 couple of things. You're right. I was initially on
22 Nextdoor at the beginning. Nextdoor is neighborhood
23 dependent and so I don't live in the neighborhood, so I
24 didn't have access to what was happening on the Nextdoor
25 app. I asked some people who were posting to please include

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1 me in the discussions so that I could see what was going on


2 and I could respond.
3 You know, I don't know who started it. I don't
4 know -- to me, honestly, it's not that important to me.
5 What I see is just a level of nastiness and toxicity from
6 people that are in favor, people that are against, and
7 that's honestly sad. It's saddens me. I agree with you
8 that we all represent you. In other words, the ultimate
9 body that represents you is the commissioners, my
10 colleagues, the City, and that's why I wanted to do this
11 meeting here. I wanted to do this meeting in the way that
12 it was noticed because I didn't want anyone to get the
13 perception that this was going to be done in any way other
14 than that.
15 I personally do value homeowners associations. I
16 do. They are voluntary, as you said. They usually take
17 voluntarily dues annually because they have some expenses,
18 like whatever, passing out fliers, whatever it is, soft
19 drinks, whatever they are, you know. My neighborhood has a
20 voluntary homeowners association, Shenandoah has a
21 voluntary --
22 MS. TATIANA: Voluntary means they don't speak for
23 me.
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Ma'am, nobody speaks for you
25 other than you. I can do a very good job.

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1 MS. TATIANA: Exactly.


2 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Listen, let's not make this
3 personal.
4 MS. TATIANA: It's not personal.
5 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: But you calling out people's
6 names, you're making it personal, so let's not make it
7 personal.
8 MS. TATIANA: I'm still waiting for a response to an
9 e-mail I sent.
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Well, look, I'm probably the
11 easiest person on the plant to get ahold of, and I've met
12 just about everybody here on this issue, and I will continue
13 to meet with anybody who wants to meet with me on this
14 issue. So let me give everybody my personal cell phone
15 number for those of you who don't have it.
16 MS. TATIANA: I sent you a text.
17 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Did I reply to you?
18 MS. TATIANA: No.
19 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: What's your number?
20 MS. TATIANA: (305) 710-0777.
21 Everybody that wants to bully me, come after me.
22 And I'm going to speak like is.
23 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Listen, to the extant we
24 haven't responded, I apologize. We will do better.
25 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: I apologize, but if we can't

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1 hear from everyone if you engage him.


2 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: That's fine. We'll talk.
3 Who is left to the speak, show of hands. Okay, that
4 means that two minutes we are going to be 50 minutes. 5-0.
5 AUDIENCE MEMBER: But if you respond for five
6 minutes for each speaker, we'll be here until 7.
7 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Maybe. But you know what? I
8 get to do that, so sorry. I think I've earned that. Thank
9 you.
10 MS. STREET: Hi, my is Mary. I live on
11 Southwest 23rd Terrace. Many of you are probably aware of
12 what I've written on Nextdoor. I have been against this
13 project from the beginning. I basically, I did not know
14 about this at all. I woke up and went on Nextdoor to figure
15 out what events were going on in the area only to find out
16 that A) this project, B) the final plan, and C) that it was
17 pushed for by the Silver Bluff homeowners association, which
18 I'm not knocking any individual member or their work, I'm
19 just saying I do not agree with this particular project. I
20 cannot emphasize that enough.
21 So instead of being this singular squeaky wheel, I
22 met other neighbors on my street who are also very upset
23 about it. We went around and we collected over 320
24 signatures of residents of Silver Bluff because there are
25 many people who don't believe this is an

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1 outside-of-Silver-Bluff problem, which is fine, that's your


2 opinion. I have the signatures right here with me.
3 So the signatures, this is in faithfulness to the
4 324 people: "The undersigned of the residents of Silver
5 Bluff ask Commissioner Suarez to remove the temporary
6 traffic barriers/delineators on Southwest 22nd Avenue
7 immediately." This started in August. "Do not selectively
8 block streets on 22nd Avenue. Design a new, fair, and
9 evidenced-base plan to address the traffic problems with a
10 vision and consideration beyond blocks between US-1 and
11 Coral Way and account for Miami's increasing population.
12 Provide proper notice and seek input of Silver Bluff before
13 any future traffic plan is implemented in the neighborhood."
14 Now, since we did this, I have come to realize that
15 22nd Avenue is a county road. It has blown my mind that
16 these major changes, temporary or final, were done on a
17 county road when -- how? I mean, I have asked, I have done
18 a public records request, I have asked the agenda manager at
19 the county, where is the county commissioners' consideration
20 of the policy behind this plan? And there's nothing. No
21 one -- I -- then, I went down even lower. Okay, how about
22 the county commission.
23 I got a response from the city attorney's office
24 from a public records request that made one city traffic
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1 and had been with the City for two years. And then it says,
2 "In conjunction with traffic engineer from Miami-Dade
3 County." And I had to write back, you didn't name anybody.
4 I mean, it's just -- I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.
5 And I'd like to point out -- and they are going to concede
6 my time to me if I had to. Thank you.
7 So I'd also like to point out that the charts that
8 Eduardo put up right at the beginning after Commissioner
9 Suarez spoke. So over the last few months, we've heard,
10 this is a test -- no. First, we heard, this is supposed to
11 be immediate. Then it was okay, it's just a test. We're
12 just going to see what happens and then we're going to
13 decide what to do.
14 Then, it was, no, the final plan is going forward no
15 matter what you want because this is going to reduce traffic
16 overall. It's for the benefit of everybody, even though you
17 have 23rd Terrace and 25th Terrace and 25th Street
18 screaming, saying, this is not for the benefit of us. This
19 is hurting us. We woke up to a nightmare overnight.
20 And then they add, we don't need data. We have our
21 own stuff. Hold it. The data that is on that chart came
22 from Trident. It came from the most recent study. So why
23 do we need a new study by people who -- they did say they
24 were in high school. People in this room spoke with them.
25 They said they were in high school and they were going to

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1 get help getting into college. I don't know if that's true


2 or not, but they said they were doing it.
3 Anyway -- in any event, these backups, the most
4 recent study from December 2016 issued in January 2017. It
5 had traffic projections, so -- and it wasn't traffic
6 projections with the poles. It was traffic projections with
7 the final plan. And then it said 2040, in 2040, the worst
8 off street if you do nothing and you leave it the way it is,
9 which isn't even what the petitioners are saying. They are
10 not saying nothing. They are saying address it, but with
11 thoughtfulness and evidence of just the intersection.
12 In any event, the study says that if you just do
13 nothing and you leave everybody along that, for example,
14 24th Terrace, which did have the highest traffic with
15 265 cars. But the other streets were 185, 156, 140, not
16 zero. And then if you do the build alternative, this is
17 what Trident Engineering, your expert, the City's expert
18 that the mystical county people looked at, three streets.
19 Three streets.
20 Okay remember, no build, 24th Terrace is most
21 burdened with 265 cars. With the build, 23rd Terrace is the
22 most burdened with 404 cars. So you are making -- even if
23 you do this, it doesn't reduce traffic volume. It's just
24 jamming it down three streets and the worse case scenario if
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1 you do do that. So it's just the height of absurdity to


2 tell us that this is for the benefit of everybody.
3 And I have -- just so you know, people, almost every
4 resident of 23rd Terrace find this, so there are people in
5 the neighborhood who are so committed to this project, have
6 them be the open street because I can tell you right now at
7 least 23rd Terrace on the east side of 25th Street
8 absolutely, 100 percent will not consent to this. Thank
9 you.
10 (Audience applause.)
11 MS. STREET: I would like to enter the petition into
12 public record. Also, for the nightmare, I've been trying to
13 figure out how we got here and your presentation this
14 morning helped a little bit, more than other things. But
15 I've asked for meeting minutes. I've looked up the publicly
16 noticed meetings. There were 10 publicly noticed meetings
17 in the last 10 years and I was told by the City that was not
18 a real session meet, which is fine. But then I asked the
19 HOA and they basically ignored my request.
20 So that's why I have a court reporter here so now
21 finally, you have meeting minutes. So when someone goes to
22 a neighborhood meeting next year, they can figure out what
23 the hell is going on.
24 (Audience applause.)
25 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you. So read the

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1 meetings so they can actually watch on television because


2 we're recording as well, so they can also do that.
3 (Audience applause.)
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So again, a lot of the stuff
5 that was presented about Trident data, I met with Ms. Street
6 many, many, many times. This is the first time of all the
7 many times that I've met with her that she's presented the
8 argument in that fashion. We'll look at it. Obviously, we
9 should analyze it. It's a fair argument to make and we need
10 to analyze, just like we can analyze more data we collect as
11 a result of this project. And, you know, we to have to do
12 that. But, I mean, we've met -- I've met with many of you
13 multiple, multiple, multiple times and this information has
14 never been brought forth, which is the purpose of doing
15 this. And so thank you, I appreciate it.
16 MR. VIDAL: Hi. I'm Mike Vidal, and I live on
17 21st Street and 22nd Avenue in Shenandoah, also known as
18 I95. First off, I want to thank you for having this meeting
19 on a Saturday so people don't have to take time off of work
20 to come here. Excellent move. Commissioner Barreiro, with
21 all due respect since you were not present, I was chairman
22 of the planning and zoning committee in the South Lake
23 community parcel 40 years ago, dealing exactly with these
24 problems. One of the issues that we have in this county --
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1 part of this also, is you must enforce concurrency. You do


2 not enforce concurrency, this is what you end up with today.
3 You cannot close streets, you cannot cut down the
4 flow of traffic. My wife will tell you I'm an expert in
5 running through all the main streets and getting away from
6 them to get around this town because we have a traffic
7 department that doesn't do their job and have the most
8 terrible synchronization of lights I have seen all over this
9 county and I have travelled all over it. There's no excuse
10 for it. Thank you very much. That's all I need to say.
11 MR. LEWIS: Hello, thank you. Charles Lewis at 2345
12 Southwest 25th Street. I want to say that I'm in favor of
13 the project. I really appreciate it, that it even exists.
14 I have a house, family in the Grove near Overgrove and
15 First. And if I want to go for a bike ride or run with my
16 kids, I leave my neighborhood, cross US-1 to go into North
17 Grove where you can play basketball in the street, walk your
18 dog in the street, run, and not get run over while you're
19 trying to wash your car.
20 The cut-through commuter is a nasty animal. They
21 will run you over while trying to get around another car,
22 and I think people here are getting a little short-sighted
23 thinking that if you close off this street, it's going to go
24 on my street. They don't understand that the closure is
25 going to cut traffic. On 25st Street, if this plan channels

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1 everyone in this room down my road, I welcome that. I just


2 wanted to say there was a survey on next neighbor that said
3 overwhelming these people support the project. So I think
4 there's a very small number of people that are very vocal at
5 being against it.
6 Look at these numbers here, how a single car on my
7 road in the year 2040. I still don't believe that existing
8 study. Thank you for the project. I hope it goes through
9 and I hope it's not a negative for everybody.
10 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you and I want thank
11 everyone for being here on Saturday because it truly is a
12 big issue and it's a City of Miami issue, not Silver Bluff,
13 not even Shenandoah. I am a biker, I am a walker, I love
14 the community, I attend my homeowners association, and I'm
15 an environmentalist. And I know that if I have toxic waste,
16 I can't put it down the river and let the other people
17 downstream deal with it. I learned how to take care of it.
18 We learn how to mitigate; we learn how to enforce.
19 I love travelling all over the world and walking,
20 taking the metro, taking public transportation, something we
21 have to ensure. We do not put a Band-Aid on an issue. We
22 improve our neighborhoods and I use Waze and everyone that I
23 speak to cuts through neighborhoods. They do not take Coral
24 Way. They do not take US-1, but we are courteous drivers.
25 We ensure that we have safety of the neighborhood.

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1 I can pretty much guarantee that most of you have


2 cut through our neighborhood before, we just do it rightly.
3 Do not close streets and put a problem on to somebody else.
4 Make streets walkable, narrow streets do not put road
5 backs -- not road blocks, traveling circles, speed bumps,
6 but ensure that I can drive through neighborhoods. I do
7 tree trimmings in your neighborhoods when I used to work
8 with my other -- street trees, and I love being able to get
9 my bike and ride from one street to another. To make
10 streets accessible to all so they can walk to make sure that
11 everyone can have their kids play in the streets. I used to
12 live in West Kendall and I moved down to Shenandoah where I
13 could live next to where I work. So thank you, everyone,
14 and please make our cities walking, drivable, and safe.
15 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Good afternoon, Commissioner. I
16 came in the morning to see where this is going. First of
17 all, thank you very much for the letter because I've never
18 attended any of these meetings before because I never felt
19 that there was a need to do it, but I live in 23rd Avenue,
20 23rd Terrace. I moved, I lived there since 1982, raised my
21 three kids there, all grown up and married with my wife.
22 What brought me here really was your letter, but two
23 days ago when I saw a gasoline tank, 18-wheeler driving
24 through the residential neighborhood to go to the gas
25 station, that scared me. I don't think we need to wait

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1 until somebody dies to have this right. So -- and my house


2 is about the lowest you can get, ever. As far as rain, that
3 place gets flooded all the time. I never complained because
4 I like the neighborhood and I call them, sometimes they
5 respond, sometimes they don't respond, to clean this water
6 system, but it should be done every six months regardless of
7 if we call them or not because it's a flooded area.
8 Having said that, I have two minutes like I said and
9 I'm giving my two minutes, I give you my two sentences. We
10 know and all of us know that success is not sustained.
11 Success is never final. Failure is never fatal. It's the
12 courage that counts. So I got the courage to come here and
13 tell you that nothing in life is to be feared, it's only to
14 be understood. If -- and I do concur not to close the road
15 right now until a critical study is finished. Otherwise,
16 we're going to become like a cocoon. At the end, we're
17 going to kill ourselves. Thank you very much.
18 MS. PELAYA: Well, I'm here for myself and for my
19 husband, so I might use a little more than two minutes,
20 okay? But first of all, I want to thank you because you've
21 been very responsive to everything we've ever asked for.
22 And I'm here first to talk about the association. My name
23 is Leticia Pelaya, and I live at 2330 SW 22nd Terrace and
24 I'm not afraid of bullies. So I've lived in this community
25 for over 40years.

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1 When I first found out about our association, which


2 is the group of proactive citizens, I decided to go to some
3 of the meetings. I must say I was extremely impressed by
4 their passion, drive, and sense of community. I was also
5 impressed with how informed they were and their
6 proactiveness. That's what brought everyone here. It's
7 their proactiveness to maintain a good community in Silver
8 Bluff caring about us, not trying to divide us like what's
9 going on right now, okay?
10 I did not attend all the meetings, but the ones that
11 I was, were -- but I was always informed of them. I did
12 attend the meeting in which this project was defended and
13 not only was it attended, well attended, but there was
14 plenty of discussion. The planners were there, the
15 engineers were there, the drawings were there. Everyone got
16 to ask questions one-on-one with everyone. I was also in
17 attendance because we're just focussing on one thing that
18 the homeowner association has been proactive about. But I
19 was also in this city hall when the daycare wanted to
20 increase the amount of children in the daycare center and
21 this association stopped it.
22 I was also present when the association helped with
23 forming zoning issues that was going on Coral Way which
24 would have trickled down to all of us, okay? And they --
25 and not only were they available, but they informed the

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1 neighbors that were going to be impacted by this. So I


2 wanted to recognize this homeowners association that does
3 everything as a volunteer. I don't know I have to time to
4 do all the things they do, but I rely on their expertise and
5 what they've done for us.
6 I live on 22nd Terrace, so I've always been
7 accommodated to the traffic situation that we have. I know
8 what it's like to park in reverse so that when I get out in
9 the morning, I don't hit somebody. We get a lot of traffic.
10 I didn't -- we're not here because it benefits me. We're
11 here because a project that has been in the works for seven
12 years, okay, and has gradually evolved, taken fruition, and
13 what they're asking is for it to be tested. They're not
14 even saying this is the final plan, even though we -- it was
15 presented as this is the idea we want to go with but
16 somebody, I think, in one of meetings raised a concern about
17 it, you know, how it would impact and you -- I'm pretty sure
18 you guys have said, let's test it, and we're testing it.
19 Give it a chance.
20 I mean it was from day 1, from day 1 people were
21 fighting and arguing and making this a very nasty situation
22 and I know that because I've lived here 40 years and I've
23 never seen our neighbors in this form. So I hope that you
24 guys can appreciate what's been done today. I'm in favor of
25 the beautification with modifications. I don't want to

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1 overburden anybody. Thank you.


2 MR. MATTHEW: Hi. My name is Matthew, 23rd Terrace.
3 I just want to make a couple of quick points. First,
4 directed most toward Commissioner Barreiro, and your
5 majority rules. So wanted to make sure you were aware of
6 was majority rules really dictated on where you pool from.
7 So just to give you a quick example, there's eight
8 intersections on 22nd Avenue. You're going to have six
9 closed streets, two open streets, right there you get
10 75 percent of people that will be benefitted from the
11 particular project in Silver Bluff. So, of course, there's
12 going to be majority unless it's little bit lower, some
13 people have a come to a Jesus moment. Let's not overburden
14 the neighbors. So I just wanted to make sure you were
15 aware.
16 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: Well, as I stated, majority
17 rules, but we don't do it on that -- at the expense of
18 tramping over the minority's rights.
19 MR. MATTHEW: Exactly. And to piggy back on that --
20 and I'm concurring with you. To piggy back on that you're
21 going to have a much better argument for majority rules if
22 75 percent of the open streets agreed with this project, but
23 it's zero percent agree on the open streets. So the other
24 thing is quick about the notification. 23rd Terrace and
25 25th Street as the numbers indicated, we didn't have a

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1 traffic problem. Why do we need to go into this if we don't


2 have a traffic problem.
3 Second, and it kind of piggy backs on
4 Commissioner Suarez when you start to see the open streets.
5 It's a little bit more rhetorical, but why wouldn't you look
6 at those two open streets and say, hey, do these people
7 really want this? Maybe I should at least target these
8 people. I don't need to talk to all 4,000 residents, just
9 those folks in 23rd Terrace and 25tn Street and see if they
10 actually want this.
11 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: That's fair.
12 MR. MATTHEW: Last point, really quickly, I don't
13 know if this was or ever was, but you talked about this
14 preschool over on 22nd Avenue and 25th Street. I've never
15 seen it and I thought, I've never seen this preschool, why
16 not? Why is there no school zone, 20 miles per hour speed
17 limits, a school zone right on 22nd Avenue. There's a
18 potential solution for traffic reduction.
19 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: It's a preschool. They
20 don't qualify.
21 MR. MATTHEW: So they would need to make a petition
22 to you or county or city?
23 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: County.
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: No, we don't control that. I
25 think what this demonstrates to the whole neighborhood is

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1 that we need to be more active and paying attention on all


2 issues because you don't know when an issue will effect you
3 and then once it's effected you, you wonder, why did it
4 effect me? So I think it's been a lesson for all of us. I
5 would never have met you guys if it wasn't for the fact that
6 you weren't affected by this project, so I cannot thank you
7 enough.
8 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Good morning. I'm going to make
9 my case clear. I'm here today in favor of the project. I
10 think this is one of the most comprehensive projects in the
11 Silver Bluff area. This is not a project about painting the
12 streets or do anything trying like that. This is a project
13 that addresses two main important things. One thing is the
14 treatment of 22nd Avenue, not by planting some trees or
15 anything like that, but by the redesigning the main transit
16 of the whole Silver Bluff area, which used to be a
17 neighborhood long, long time ago when I moved here.
18 Something that many of you might not remember. Some of you
19 are very young and have moved into the area very recently.
20 Second, it will improve the local traffic within the
21 area. It will cut, it will not be able to stop all the
22 commuting traffic down we get through our area, but it's
23 going to improve it considerably. Finally, instead of the
24 neighbors or the near neighbors who see these projects as a
25 threat, please look at it as a precedent for the other

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1 neighbors to participate either by yourself or with the help


2 of the homeowners association. We are very lucky to have
3 one for seven years that have represented us with
4 effectiveness and honesty.
5 So this is something that I think is not something
6 that you learn in one day, in two years, in three years.
7 But it's a long-term relationship between all the neighbors
8 and our associations. I wanted to say this to Commissioner
9 Suarez, you have represented us as a community effectively
10 and to that I say, thank you. And thank you everybody for
11 coming. I do believe that the majority of my neighbors
12 agree with the project that I have walked through the street
13 and projected many, many signatures which have been
14 presented here today. Thank you.
15 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I live on 23rd Terrace. Thank you
16 for bringing us all here. We don't need a study to know
17 that the current solution doesn't work. It's absolutely
18 clear that there's more traffic down our street and it's
19 illegal, basically. Streets should remain open and the
20 traffic study should have more money put to make a true
21 picture of the traffic flow. I do not think that the
22 current study will be valid, accurate in light of all of the
23 stuff that's been reported here already today.
24 Let's talk about the 17th Avenue traffic light in
25 your point. I would humbly ask that the smart light be

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1 placed at the top of the list to be installed. We need some


2 relief on that light, like, right now, basically. I commute
3 there every day and I can tell you horror stories of people
4 going the wrong way, trying to cut through. So I offer one
5 solution that doesn't require a lot of money to implement.
6 You don't need $2 million. One-way streets. Period. This
7 way the traffic will not be stopped in coming because it's
8 not going to stop, basically. It will only impact your home
9 once a day -- morning.
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you for having an idea
11 because it's good to collect ideas. I appreciate that.
12 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Good afternoon. Thank you for
13 having this meeting. I'm 81 years old and I've lived in
14 Silver Bluff, on 25th Terrace, since 1980. As soon as I got
15 here, I started going to city hall because I believe in
16 participating in government. I think I've been to 400
17 meetings over here and I'm on the homeowners association
18 board of Silver Bluff, so I've been through all the planning
19 stages for this 22nd Avenue project.
20 I wish to emphasize that it is not closed to change
21 as the Commissioner has said. It's in flux. And I would
22 like to say something else. A lot of you people who have
23 been opposed to this, I've never seen you at city hall.
24 I've never seen you at county government meetings. Where
25 have you been? The rest of you have been working and

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1 working and working for years to go to meetings and


2 participate and at the last minute some of you, because
3 there's a lot of traffic on your particular street, thanks a
4 lot.
5 (Audience applause.)
6 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Why don't we put it on your
7 street?
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Ma'am, ma'am, please. You had
9 a chance to speak.
10 AUDIENCE MEMBER: As fast as petitions are
11 concerned, we have 600 in favor of this project and maybe --
12 (Audience applause.)
13 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys, no one is in favor or
14 against clapping, please.
15 AUDIENCE MEMBER: As far as a couple of temporary
16 solutions for 23rd Street, 25th Street. I live one block
17 away. We received the first speed bump. It's not magical.
18 It ought to be two inches taller. The traffic has increased
19 a little bit in the past few years.
20 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: You can thank the green book
21 for that.
22 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I know. The County's afraid
23 somebody will destroy their car and sue them or something.
24 We need more and I suggest you put three, four speed bumps
25 on 25th Street and some more on 23rd. And we also need stop

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1 signs leading up to the traffic circles because the cops, as


2 they have told us at our meetings, cannot issue a ticket on
3 a yield sign if nobody stops. I walk a lot now. I don't
4 drive anymore. And I try to get around those traffic
5 circles and traffic doesn't stop. And they're neighborhood
6 people with kids in the car. They go right around those
7 circles.
8 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I'm glad you're saying that
9 because that's happening on my street.
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Please, please, please. Next
11 speaker.
12 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Now, I would say --
13 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I am sorry.
14 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I would say, thank you, Francis.
15 I want to say something about Shenandoah. This is not their
16 project. We're not closing off our neighborhood and we're
17 not trying to close off any neighborhoods. The traffic is
18 still going to go through and there's always going to be
19 more on it, it's inevitable. So don't worry and our traffic
20 is not going to go to Shenandoah because you have a
21 different configuration.
22 We get the traffic because we're between 27th, Coral
23 Way, and US-1, north of the grove. People want to cut
24 through our neighborhoods, but Shenandoah's got a long
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1 27th Avenue. It's 16th Street. It's a bus route and I know
2 Shenandoah very well. It doesn't have the traffic that we
3 do. I work as Frances Nelson, Alex Bravo knows -- I was one
4 of six people that saved Bryant Park from becoming a
5 complete tennis center and I worked with Hugh Ryan and the
6 Shenandoah homeowners and everything else. And we should
7 all work in government and pay more attention.
8 As for the lady that spent 10 minutes up here
9 complaining that she didn't know about the meetings or
10 something and didn't want to pay dues because -- if you
11 people in Silver Bluff know how many projects we have worked
12 on over the years, 22nd Terrace where there's all this
13 traffic, there was -- none of you were here to prevent those
14 condo builders, apartment buildings on Coral Way from having
15 garages with access in the back street. And we lost on that
16 because one of commissioners couldn't come and Bruno, you
17 know, Frank Royal voted against it, so there's lots of
18 things to go on. You've got to participate, you've got to
19 know.
20 And I wanted to mention something else for
21 Shenandoah. I remember years ago when I was spending two
22 day a week over here and losing money on my business,
23 Shenandoah wanted a fire station which they badly needed for
24 years and years. Manny Diaz was the mayor, who I fought for
25 years against Miami 21. Okay, there was a wonderful piece

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1 of land in Shenandoah suitable for a fire department. Well,


2 guess what happened to it? This is the last thing. Guess
3 what happened to it? A friend of Manny Diaz bought it. And
4 that's why you had to wait 10, 15 years for a fire station.
5 So take it easy. Everybody shouldn't be mad at each other
6 and pay attention, come to our meetings, pay your dues so we
7 can keep going.
8 (Audience interruption.)
9 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys, please.
10 MS. ERICA: Hi everybody. My name is Erica. I live
11 on 18th Avenue and thank you so much for the hearing. I
12 know that it's been a little challenging. So I purchased my
13 home three years ago. Now, I purchased my home based on a
14 lot of factors. One of them is location of the neighborhood
15 obviously, the location of my home. So I specifically chose
16 certain streets and I put bids on those houses for specific
17 streets for certain reasons. I liked my street because it
18 was quiet and I liked where it was located.
19 Now, as Commissioner Suarez said, he purchased his
20 property due to the fact that he liked his neighborhood and
21 it was as is. I, too, chose my property and I thought it
22 would be left as is. In addition, I also chose the
23 neighborhood because I was led to believe that this
24 neighborhood was nice, that people here were wonderful and
25 it was a neighborhood that I wanted to be part of.

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1 For the first time in three years, I am just so


2 angered at the toxicity, at the level of bullying, and how
3 we're acting. I mean, my God, do we not have enough out
4 there in this world to where we go to our neighborhoods and
5 we're at war with each other? We have got to stop. We have
6 opposing views. We don't agree with each other and that's
7 okay. It's okay, but we must disagree with each other with
8 respect.
9 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Absolutely.
10 MS. ERICA: With respect. Please, let's not make it
11 worse. We already have a lot to deal with out there. We
12 all go to our neighborhoods and our homes. I want that to
13 be a place of calm. I want that to be a place of sanctuary
14 for us. So please, don't attack each other. Say what you
15 need to say, but don't say it in a hurtful, mean way,
16 please.
17 In addition, it's very obvious that this project, as
18 is, is not working. There are some challenges that we have
19 and we put the poles in or the City put the poles in to
20 conduct a study and gather data. Now, if the data, with all
21 due respect, cannot be trusted and it's being gathered in a
22 way that is absolutely ridiculous, any scientist will tell
23 you that it must be gathered in a specific way. If it's not
24 gathered correctly and we cannot trust the data, then how
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1 is clearly faulty?
2 Let's put money behind it and then go ahead and do
3 that. In conclusion please, please be good to each other.
4 Let's find a solution that works for everybody and then do
5 it with data that can be trusted. Thank you.
6 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Very well said. We'll look at
7 that issue. The fear that I have and the concern and it's
8 something that I talked to the commissioner about is any
9 adjustment that we make takes more time. And so that's,
10 kind of, the -- let's say I said, I think the data was
11 flawed. I've got to hire another consultant, I've got to do
12 it a different way, and that's going to take more time. I
13 don't know that the patience is there for another study with
14 a different consultant. That's the fear that I have. So
15 it's kind of a catch 22 sometimes. Like do you start the
16 study when you have a degree or not, you know what I mean?
17 And then you it's those things I grapple with. Trust me.
18 We'll look at the data, see what it says, and then
19 some data seems in favor, sometimes the data seems attacked.
20 So I heard people use the data as a projection of the same
21 consulting in favor of their argument, and they're already
22 attacking the methodology of the way the data, from the same
23 consultant, being captured again. So that part --
24 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Test again.
25 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: We can but, again, that takes

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1 more time more money.


2 MS. SARDINA MANN: Good afternoon. My name is Beba.
3 I don't think I need to say anymore. I've been the favorite
4 target on Nextdoor. I actually live -- first of all, thank
5 you, Commissioner, for arranging this, on our behalf and
6 doing it on Saturday. For taking the day off today to come
7 over here and listen to us. And the County and the City
8 that have come to so many meetings to address this issue and
9 bring out the project and talk about it. So thank you for
10 spending your Saturday here.
11 I just want to make a statement for everybody that
12 lives here in this area. I've lived in this area since
13 1964, okay? I have the only open street on 17th Avenue
14 between US-1 and Coral Way. All the traffic that's going
15 through your area comes in front of my street on
16 23rd street. I just want to point that out. Now, I have
17 seen a little bit of reduction in the traffic, nothing
18 major. I still get cars piling behind me and it's not --
19 and I understand the frustration and the aggravation that
20 you're experiencing.
21 And I also want to say that some of the comments
22 that were made earlier that referred to fire and the first
23 responders. One of our neighbors is a first responder and
24 he was a lieutenant and he posted on Nextdoor his position
25 on this about, you know, safety and everything. He is in

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1 favor of this project. He's not here. He's out of town.


2 He'll be here next Thursday, but I'm sure he'll speak at the
3 next meeting. With that being said, I wrote a statement
4 just so that I can stay focussed because this could become a
5 very emotional topic for me, especially because of the
6 attack.
7 So here we go. Yes, yes, yes. The Silver Bluff
8 community is one pool of wonderful treasures made of
9 different nationalities, professional backgrounds, and with
10 a sense of unity. While some residents choose not to attend
11 meetings, the open invitation is always there. The
12 quarterly meetings are held on the third Thursday of the
13 month, June being our annual meeting where we wrap up the
14 year. We send out e-mails, walk fliers, and post our
15 meetings on Nextdoor. The City of Miami also posts all
16 their community meetings on their website. But at the end
17 of the day, this is not about proving anything to some
18 members of the community that went about berating us instead
19 of working together. This project is a Silver Bluff project
20 that has been on the top of the agenda.
21 For almost seven years, residents that care about
22 their neighborhood wanted to stop the deterioration caused
23 by the cut-through traffic and gathered quarterly to voice
24 their concerns and frustrations of the out-of-control
25 situation. They voiced their concerns to our elected

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1 officials, city and county. Our meetings were very well


2 attended, nothing was done in hiding. Each community has
3 had their sets of issues and we may very well share the same
4 issues, and have worked together on some of them in the
5 past. However, trying to aggressively undermine the hard
6 work that the community has put forth by a few is just
7 wrong. Neighboring communities, like Coconut Grove, have
8 been successful mitigating their traffic without
9 interference of other communities. That is how it should
10 be. The word that has been thrown around is "holistic
11 approach." Well, the city and county have been working on a
12 holistic approach and at the rapid growth rate we are
13 facing, we will not see real traffic relief for many years
14 to come.
15 Four feet of sections in specific issues to an area
16 is the safest and best approach. Move the traffic back to
17 the main corridor. Since 2004, we've had traffic studies
18 that implemented circles, speed tables, and additional stop
19 signs. They have not worked. We need something that to
20 proposed project is proposing to do and make it all work
21 together.
22 The Silver Bluff beautification project is one that
23 will create a fair distribution of traffic, reduce the speed
24 of cars on Southwest 22nd Avenue to make it safe for
25 everyone. The City has taken the precaution of placing

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1 temporary poles to see the pattern of the traffic to ensure


2 that this particular street is not overly burdened within
3 another. Yes, there are issues and they are issues and they
4 are being addressed. We need not to allow the -- we need
5 now to allow the engineers the time to work through the data
6 and find the solution that will make everyone happy. I know
7 that those that are experiencing for the first time
8 additional traffic, it is a very aggravating experience, one
9 the rest of the neighbors have been experiencing for many
10 years. As a community, we need to assure that no one
11 experiences this anymore. We are not and should not be the
12 collecting neighborhood for the US-1 commuter.
13 Many of our neighbors have made great suggestions
14 for making the beautification projects work for all. That
15 includes closing ingress to US-1 on 19th Avenue, closing the
16 ingress from -- correction, on 17th Avenue onto 24th
17 Terrance and onto 23rd Terrace. A solution for the ingress
18 at 23rd Terrace and west side. This is what needs to be
19 done, working together and not against each other.
20 After speaking with some of the neighbors, one of
21 the issues that came up is that they now have an
22 inconvenience to go to Publix. Some have said that they cut
23 through their neighborhoods and they don't want anything
24 changed because US-1 is a nightmare. We know that the
25 opposition to this project has been circulating a petition

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1 against the poles as described in the project. Yet, they


2 have not taken the time to consider the silent majority that
3 have worked hard to find a solution and those that are even
4 not involved in offering a feel-good solution. In three
5 weeks, they have collected over 600 signatures. These are
6 in favor of the project and we have not even made a dent in
7 the neighborhood. Reaching over 1,000 is not impossible.
8 Yes, US-1 is a nightmare and the lights from
9 17th Avenue to 27th Avenue are a problem, but once you get
10 past 27th Avenue, the traffic seems to flow better. The
11 County needs to correct this problem because it adds more
12 traffic to our area. We already have thousands of cars
13 driving in our neighborhood from the residents that live
14 within the neighborhood. The hundreds of those people that
15 live in the condominiums on 27th Avenue. We have enough
16 traffic just of our own. The City and County should
17 continue to work with the residents on the proposal of 22nd
18 Avenue project, not only to create a residential road, as
19 other cities have successfully done, to create a safer
20 neighborhood for all. This city and county allowed for
21 urban quarters to expand at a very fast and high rate,
22 without taking into account the surrounding communities, to
23 not have the protection of a good infrastructure. The
24 biggest and most important factor is a great city or
25 neighborhood. The city and county needs to do a better job

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1 in protecting them. This is a good start.


2 And in conclusion, the Silver Bluff community is
3 very protective of its quality of life and the Silver Bluff
4 owners association have fought very hard to maintain that
5 quality of life. Let's not allow our differences or
6 different views about traffic mitigation change that. Let's
7 work together with the traffic engineers to find the perfect
8 balance. A good community is an informed community. Please
9 stay tuned.
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I need to say a couple of
11 things that I think are very important, and touches on this
12 issue. I haven't even shared with you guys the bad news.
13 The bad news is that Miami 21 when it was enacted, and it
14 actually, believe it or not, Miami 21 created restrictions
15 on the development of the commercial corridor that lead to
16 thousands of commercial that 11,00 did not do. What that
17 means is, if you have a zone envelope, buildability,
18 commercial, residential, whatever, under 11,000, prior to
19 Miami 21, there were no maximum height caps. There was
20 nothing. You just built at the function of the space that
21 you for both -- pretty much as you wanted, which is why on
22 Coral Way you see 16-story buildings, right, which are
23 totally out of scale with the one single-family residential
24 neighborhood that's right next to it.
25 I have to say this. An organization that hasn't

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1 even been mentioned in conjunction with the Silver Bluff


2 homeowners association, Miami Neighborhoods United, which is
3 a conglomeration of all the neighborhood associations in the
4 entire city of Miami requested that 27th Avenue be
5 down-judged and Coral Way be down-judged. Okay. What that
6 means is that 27th Avenue was down-zoned from T5 to T4.
7 Okay. So 27th -- the capacity of a building on 27th Avenue,
8 I initiated that.
9 When I first got here, one of the first things that
10 I did, I reduced the zoning of 27th Avenue. Not a popular
11 decision with the developers, let me tell you that.
12 AUDIENCE MEMBER: And Coral Way.
13 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: And Coral Way was T-68, and
14 you could build an eight-story building on Coral Way.
15 Smaller than a 16-story building. I reduced that to T-5, no
16 more than a five-story building. So we went from 16-story
17 buildings that you see on Coral Way, to five-story
18 buildings, maximum height on Coral Way. That's a 60 percent
19 reduction in buildability and in -- so I just want all of
20 you to know that homeowners associations in combination with
21 other homeowners associations and in combination with me,
22 have actually taken proactive steps to address some of the
23 over density over populations we were building that is
24 happening in the City of Miami.
25 There's a lot more work to be done, but like I said,

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1 the bad news is according to Miami 21, if everyone built to


2 their highest and best use right now, If every single person
3 knocked down a building and built as high and big as they're
4 allowed to by law, without coming to get permission or
5 anything, not coming and asking for anything special, you
6 can still build 90 percent more than we have right now.
7 9-0. 90 percent more. So if you think traffics is bad
8 right now, we have 185,000 dwellings in the City of Miami.
9 We have capacity for 1.5 million, million.
10 So I see these problems going forward and that's
11 part of the concern I have and part of what motivates me to
12 get all the additions, not just about the way it is today,
13 it's also about the way that it's going to be tomorrow if we
14 don't do anything about it.
15 Can I excuse myself for one second?
16 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Good afternoon. I bought my house
17 in 1967 at 1740 Southwest 23rd Terrace. I'm retired now. I
18 view ball games, self running around, grand kids. So
19 usually between Monday through Fridays I do not attend any
20 meetings, because I'm involved in my grandsons.
21 I want to talk briefly about what you can do now.
22 Why all these poles are completed and everything comes to
23 fruition. When the City of Miami reduced the speed on
24 16th Street between 27th Avenue and 17th Avenue, it took
25 only two or three days with law enforcement radar, handing

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1 out tickets to calm down the speed there, because fine, it


2 works very well. So when I go to 16th Street, we need to
3 have sort of enforcement in the two streets.
4 Number 2, the City of Miami and the County have done
5 a lot promoting traffic. You guys know the transfer with
6 us, it takes you to Brickell, it takes you to Flagler, to
7 the Courthouse, to the Port of Miami for free in air
8 conditioner. A lot of people don't know that. It's really
9 user underutilized because when I have to go Downtown, I
10 don't drive no more. I take the tram. And many people
11 don't know it. They could leave the car at home. No
12 campaign has been put into effect to encourage people to use
13 the tram. Big savings.
14 And the thing that I want to touch on, and maybe I'm
15 going directly, there's a type of speed bump, which is not
16 perpendicular to the sidewalks, is slanting, and it slows
17 down cars a lot because of -- I don't know if it's legal for
18 streets, but I've seen them -- I can't recall right now if
19 it's a parking lot or streets. If you slow down with those
20 types of structures, you'll go down in speed. The speed
21 only -- speed that are open, that's a big issue right now.
22 It's the things that can be done right now. While
23 everything is -- you heard what I said?
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I did.
25 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Okay.

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1 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: And I just want you to know,


2 that the trolly system, I'm very proud of, which is our free
3 system. We're trying -- I just got the numbers last week,
4 we are -- we're taking 450,000 riders a month on that
5 system. So that system is doing very well. As you said,
6 it's been a great system and I'm hopeful that it is helpful
7 in alleviating some of these issues.
8 AUDIENCE MEMBER: All those streets are not equally
9 convene though in the same to the cross traffic. If it were
10 all equal on all same number of stops, same number of
11 circles, bumps, it would help. I realize that those that
12 are closer to US-1, suffer the most. Thank you.
13 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Part of the issue is they are
14 all equal in terms of the actual things that we have,
15 circles and bumps an all that, it doesn't require
16 maintenance. It requires that street to concur. If the
17 street doesn't concur, we don't do it. So irrespective of
18 my desire to have them equal and have the bumps equally and
19 the circles equally, we let the residents make that
20 decision.
21 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you.
22 My wife, she conceded her two minutes to me, because
23 I needed to make one final point.
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Okay.
25 AUDIENCE MEMBER: It should be upsetting to you

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1 Commissioner Suarez and you Commissioner Barreiro, it should


2 be upsetting to the homeowners associations and everyone
3 who's against the poles.
4 My gripe is I work in market research. I work with
5 doing market studies in different countries, and the one
6 thing that is very upsetting is to know that Trident is
7 using pen and paper to track the traffic flow. I worked in
8 countries like Guyana or Nicaragua where we used to have --
9 where each person that's tabulating information, can be
10 geo-positioned. You know exactly where they are. So if you
11 have people that are upset and are saying they aren't there,
12 then you can say, well, I have the data, the sheets, the
13 positioning system tells you that they were at that corner,
14 and you don't have that system. You're putting yourself in
15 an uncomfortable situation and I think that -- you know, I
16 work with vendors that do research for me and I sometimes
17 entertain other companies to see what other things they have
18 to offer.
19 I would encourage you to do that, because it's not
20 always the biggest -- it's always more comfortable for me to
21 use the same research company, but sometimes they're not the
22 best one. And sometimes it's better to find an alternative.
23 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I -- listen, I can't disagree
24 with anything you said. I think that we wanted to be
25 consistent using the same company that did the prior

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1 studies. I can tell you in all of the times that I've been
2 a commissioner, I've never had someone attack the
3 methodology or the validity of a study.
4 AUDIENCE MEMBER: It's approximate, it's why I
5 question.
6 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Right. I've never had someone
7 pour through the appendix itself, the studies, pour through
8 the guide and actually attack the credibility of the study.
9 This is the first time that happened. But I'd be more than
10 happy, for example, to have a kitten in the corner as they
11 say, a very big established company. It's just going to
12 take time.
13 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yeah, so -- but it's worth the
14 investment.
15 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: No, I'm fine with it. I just
16 want the neighborhood to understand that the poles are going
17 to have to stay up while we study that solution.
18 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Just take them down.
19 (Audience reaction.)
20 COMMISSION SUAREZ: If you're going to study -- if
21 you're going to study something, if you're going to study
22 something, you have to maintain the condition that you
23 study. I mean, that's -- there's no way around it. So if
24 you're going with a whole new company, a big company, a very
25 well-established company like Kimley-Horn, just to pick that

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1 company --
2 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yeah. You just can't go with
3 questionable data to come to a conclusion.
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Which is fine. What I'm
5 saying is I understand, but again, we don't live a vacuum.
6 We live -- we have to make decisions, and so we have to make
7 qualitative decisions. Do we start during school or not
8 school, you know what I'm saying?
9 So this is another decision we have to make. This
10 company started doing the study. We can either let them
11 finish the study, and analyze the data, right, which may --
12 or we can say, no, we're not going to let them finish.
13 Thank you very much, appreciate all the work you've done.
14 Hire a new company, a bigger company, right? Which may have
15 some of the technology you were talking about, but that's
16 going to take time to study that. I'm just telling you
17 that, and I don't want you to sit here -- a big part of it
18 is a lot of effort and energy that needs to hurry this up so
19 we can make decisions.
20 AUDIENCE MEMBER: But if we rush things, then we do
21 them wrong.
22 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I hear you and you both.
23 AUDIENCE MEMBER: And ends up costing millions of
24 more dollars.
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1 you. You just can't have it both ways. You either start
2 from scratch with a new company, and you wait the time that
3 it takes to do that, or you stick with the company you have
4 and you figure it out. So that's the issue.
5 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: I appreciate your comments
6 and I understand the different technologies that are there.
7 But I believe that humans have a better way of handling it.
8 We may disagree at that argument, but I have an engineer out
9 there, through all the times of traffic to make sure that
10 the people were standing at the corner, and they were
11 counting the traffic.
12 Now, there might have been some misunderstanding and
13 some people said that they did not see them there. We were
14 not counting every single day. We counted only one day for
15 four hours at each intersection, so it is possible that when
16 somebody went through there in the evening, they didn't see
17 them because that's one of the days they were not counting.
18 But I can assure you, the engineer was there who supervised
19 those people, counting the traffic, he's here, and I trust
20 him a hundred percent.
21 And there's discussion about small company and a
22 large company. I used to be a vice president of a very
23 large company, and I have conducted this kind of traffic
24 study and we have done traffic data collection. There's
25 nothing different between a large company collecting traffic

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1 data versus a small minority company collecting the traffic


2 data. In fact, I can assure you, at the small company who
3 wanted to try my business, we went the extra mile to do
4 this. That's why I had humans out there collecting besides
5 that --
6 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I'm not saying there's anything
7 wrong with that. I'm saying even as simple as a download on
8 your phone that allows you to track where they are, and
9 we're talking about humans, too.
10 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Oh, the tracking was done
11 by the engineer who went around and made sure they were at
12 the corners.
13 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, if you have the GPS, and you
14 know exactly that they were, you can verify the data, but --
15 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: But you know this is six,
16 seven intersections, he was walking back and forth making
17 sure they were there. There -- I don't think there was a
18 need for a tracking system to find out if they're standing
19 on the corner and counting the traffic.
20 AUDIENCE MEMBER: All I'm saying is there's software
21 out there that tracks them.
22 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: The other point I'd like to
23 make is there was --
24 AUDIENCE MEMBER: It could be a lot more cost
25 effective.

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1 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Some of the accuracy, I do


2 have videos of the counts at some locations.
3 (Speaking over each other.)
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys, guys, please. You had
5 your opportunity to speak. Guys, guys.
6 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: I'm going to check it.
7 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys, the way this is playing
8 out is the point was made, okay. We will absorb it and
9 we'll make the decision. I just want to make clear with the
10 community if that sometimes we are compromised if we scrap
11 it, say, hey, let's start with a big company. There's a
12 consequence to that, so let's show respect.
13 AUDIENCE MEMBER: What you're really saying is it
14 should have been done differently in the first place, not
15 let's extend it now.
16 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I understand -- but -- I
17 understand. So right now, we have two options: We can
18 finish and look at that data and use that data to make
19 decisions, or if we don't trust that data, we can start with
20 another company, and we can get data we trust and then make
21 decisions, but you can't have both ways. One is going to
22 take longer than the other.
23 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hello. First of all, thank you
24 for giving this meeting. The only way I would able to here.
25 I do work days and work nights, and I don't have time to be

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1 part of an HOA. When I moved into my house in 2003, I sold


2 two apartments on Miami Beach, and you know why I sold them,
3 because of HOA. HOA is something that gives me rash.
4 That's why I sold the apartments, looked for my house, and I
5 was floored when I found out I still have an HOA. Where did
6 that come from? Don't HOAs have bylaws and rules saying
7 that you have to pay and they tell you what you have to do
8 in your building, and the majority rules? I'm not going to
9 be a part of an HOA today, tomorrow, or a God willing ever
10 since I plan to die in the house I'm in, which is why I'm
11 here.
12 In 2003, I made that decision. I moved my mother
13 and myself into my house, because there was no HOA. So
14 whatever they say and do has nothing to do with me. It's
15 this room right here, my mayor, my commissioner, city
16 manager, those are the people that are in charge of what
17 happens at my home. The few select that have the time to do
18 what I don't have the time to do or desire, are not going to
19 predict what happens to my property, my home's wellbeing, my
20 pets, and my life.
21 On September 25th, I sent you a video. I happened
22 to be home at 9 a.m. because they were removing a massive
23 tree from the top of my house. And I firsthand saw what
24 happened when my mom's alone at home and she has to pull out
25 the garbage can, or bring it in. The amount of traffic I

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1 have forbidden my mom from stepping outside of the house


2 while I'm not there. I've had two cats run over since that
3 time, and I have seen a tremendous amount of traffic, and it
4 really irks me to go on Nextdoor and find that two blocks
5 down that way and two blocks that way there are people who
6 are now enjoying the peace of not having traffic coming
7 through, and they are supporting this.
8 This is my suggestion. Those 600 signatures, put
9 them into Excel, press a little button, find out what the
10 street is where the majority of people who support this
11 yippie majority rules, why don't we just open their street,
12 close ours because I guarantee you in those 600 signatures,
13 23rd Terrace and 25th Terrace or street or whatever that
14 other street is, is not there. So majority this is not a
15 democracy, we were forced into this. Forced. And now you
16 guy are taking signatures, it's obvious, 23rd Terrace is not
17 going to be on that list, it's obvious.
18 I'm all for beautification. Beautification is not
19 people blocking. Plant the trees. Do everything you want,
20 beautify. You got my vote on that. But when you start
21 pumping traffic down my street and endangering the lives of
22 my family, and I get fingered in the morning because I can't
23 back out of my driveway, where I play a lot of money for
24 that house. So I'm going to collect until the end, you
25 know, HOA or not. Thank you.

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1 MS. ABRAMS: Hi. Good afternoon everybody. My name


2 is Nancy Abrams, and I have three properties and we have two
3 on 25th Street, one on 23rd Street. You know -- and I've
4 seen all the traffic going through, and I appreciate
5 everything that Silver Bluff homeowners association has
6 done. A policeman was put right outside of my house and he
7 is giving tickets like crazy. I mean, I'm retired so I see
8 what's going on in the neighborhood. And that's all we
9 need.
10 Right now, I haven't seen any traffic coming down my
11 street, they know better, because these people were flying
12 through the stop sign, and he was stationed like right on
13 24th Avenue and by 23rd, and in one hour, he caught like
14 nine people. 24th Avenue and 23rd Street right on the
15 corner. And if you put a few policeman there, instead of
16 wasting money with your data, you know, information, we
17 already know the information. We don't need to waste more
18 money on that. And to put it in the little electronic
19 wires, you know wires that count all of the cars, we will be
20 fine with that. If you start with that you have to finish
21 with that. So you have like a proper data intake.
22 I think that if we spend the money where amounts
23 are, we'll got a lot more done and we'll have less traffic
24 coming through. And Shenandoah people, believe me, I have a
25 house from Shenandoah so I know there are more streets there

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1 that you can move, drive through. You have all the way up
2 to 8th Street, you have 16th Street, you have 32nd Avenue,
3 you can get through over there. But we're like gridlocked
4 in where we are. And now that the street that used to turn
5 before 32nd Avenue and US-1 was closed down and there was a
6 big median put there, so the people can't turn to cut
7 through the neighborhood to get to Downtown, that is a big
8 problem, because that's how we ended up with more traffic
9 coming into Silver Bluff and Shenandoah, because they used
10 to take 32nd and get onto 8th Street or get onto Flagler
11 wherever they had to go.
12 That was the cut-through from the main artery, you
13 know, they would take the little side -- you know the
14 streets from US-1 that used to turn before 32nd Avenue. And
15 now that that's closed down, we're getting the impact of all
16 of those cars. That was a biggest mistake that the city has
17 ever done.
18 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Which part?
19 MS. ABRAMS: Okay. They put a median, they closed
20 off the street that turned to go north off of US-1, that
21 street okay, was closed off and now 35th Avenue,
22 31st Avenue, that took a lot of brunt of the traffic.
23 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: 31st Avenue and what?
24 AUDIENCE MEMBER: US-1.
25 MS. ABRAMS: They put a huge median there so nobody

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1 can turn. Then the traffic backed up all the way to


2 27th Avenue.
3 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: On US-1?
4 MS. ABRAMS: Yes.
5 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: On US-1?
6 MS. ABRAMS: On US-1.
7 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yeah. That's the state.
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: No, that's not the state.
9 You're talking about the median on 31st Avenue and US-1?
10 MS. ABRAMS: Yes.
11 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Yeah. That's the Department
12 of Transportation.
13 MS. ABRAMS: DOT.
14 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: Yeah, the DOT.
15 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Yeah. I just want to be
16 clear.
17 MS. ABRAMS: But since that happened, the traffic
18 now is holding up. You can't make a turn by 27th Avenue to
19 go north whatsoever. Now, what happened on 22nd Avenue,
20 that is the best thing that has ever happened, closing that
21 off, because now people have to find an alternative route in
22 order to get through the city, in order to go to the Grove.
23 You can't get to the Grove. You couldn't even go through.
24 I tried to go to Fresh Market the other day, it took me two
25 minutes to get across the highway, and before you would have

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1 to spend literally 28 minutes to get across the highway on


2 22nd Avenue.
3 Also, the double left turn, that was my idea years
4 ago. I mentioned it at the commission meeting a long time
5 ago, that needs to happen on 22nd Avenue -- or is that going
6 to happen soon?
7 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: The City doesn't have control
8 of that. The stacking on 22nd Avenue is backed up and my
9 personal view of it is having the two lanes that's going
10 into Coconut Grove and then merge into one, there's not much
11 usefulness for that. It would be better to have two turns
12 instead of just one. That's what we asked for and hopefully
13 we'll get it.
14 MS. ABRAMS: And I also agree with the timing of the
15 lights. It's horrendous. I mean, it's backed up all the
16 way from 95 to 22nd Avenue. It takes a good 40 minutes to
17 get through there during the rush hour traffic. It's a
18 two-minute ride. Thank you.
19 MS. RODRIGUEZ: Good afternoon everybody. My name
20 is Lydia Rodriguez. I live on the worst corner of all,
21 24th Avenue and 23rd Terrace -- 24th and -- I'm sorry.
22 24th Avenue has been a major highway since day 1.
23 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Avenue?
24 MS. RODRIGUEZ: Yeah, avenue. These new systems of
25 counting, that has only increased a hundred percent of the

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1 problems between 24th Avenue and 23rd Terrace. The amount


2 of traffic is unbelievable. The amount of people not
3 stopping on for the stop sign in 23rd Terrace has increased
4 quite a bit. I have a bunch of almost accidents right in
5 that corner. There is nothing else I can do. I have called
6 you. I have talked to Beba about the -- also, the other
7 problem that we have with the circles, the yields that
8 nobody ever pays attention to it. 24th Avenue has gotten to
9 be the worst since 22nd, it's been with this problem with
10 the poles, okay. And I really appreciate whatever you guys
11 can do.
12 Also, I have a concern with all due respect,
13 Commissioner, you are up for election in a few days.
14 Hopefully you will be the next mayor, right? What's going
15 to happen? Who's going to take your place?
16 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: That's your decision.
17 MS. RODRIGUEZ: What's going to happen with this
18 project? That's is what I'm concerned. I appreciate the
19 fact that you are doing this meeting right now, it should
20 have been done three months ago.
21 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you.
22 MS. RODRIGUEZ: Well, what is going to happen after
23 you leave? Because I really do I appreciate that you do.
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you, ma'am. Well, first
25 of all, I appreciate your comments. I do think that maybe

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1 it's something to talk to the attorney about as well. This


2 is something that comes up in a lot of community meetings,
3 not just in this one. The traffic circles, a lot of them
4 have been also on two stop signs. They don't want one or
5 the other, they want both. And I think that maybe we can
6 talk with the County and continue to -- I mean, I think it's
7 great that the County's here because we're hearing a lot of
8 talking down here. It's because the County came and
9 witnessed firsthand what the residents were saying and
10 feeling.
11 As for my replacement, I don't know, that's your
12 guys' decision. I will work with whoever gets elected, you
13 know, I -- I feel responsible, you know, because of the
14 situation and I don't want you to think that if I evolve in
15 another position that I'm just going to forget about you
16 guys, or anything like that. I want to work with the
17 community to try to find a solution that will ultimately be
18 for the benefit of the community. But, you know, I will
19 work with the district commissioner whoever it is elected on
20 this issue for sure. Thank you.
21 MS. RODRIGUEZ: Thank you.
22 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: Ma'am, you're going to have
23 continuity in my position. I'm going to be around and I'm
24 going to make sure I work with whoever comes in after him
25 and with the mayor to make sure that, you know, we get the

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1 thing done right for everybody.


2 MS. RODRIGUEZ: Thank you. Thank you.
3 MR. PEREZ: Hello, I'm Enrique Perez from
4 23rd Terrace. I think if there's anything that we have to
5 work out of here is the fact that channeling and blocking
6 does not work. At the same time, it's not fair that you had
7 two streets previously that were absorbing all the burden of
8 the existing condition. Shifting it to our street is not a
9 solution. We all chose to live in that area, and that's a
10 high-traffic area. So there needs to be a solution that is
11 equitable to all, and channeling through different means,
12 whatever they all are, that's why we pay the big bucks to
13 this gentleman here.
14 Channeling, blocking is a cop out. They are -- from
15 what I hear from the gentleman that first gave us the
16 presentation, there are numerous ways of controlling
17 traffic, whether it's bumps, tables, squares, circles,
18 whatever it is, but that requires time and it requires
19 thinking. Blocking and channeling is an easy solution that
20 requires very little thought. It only serves to shift the
21 burden from one place to the other.
22 So I urge whoever is doing the planning and the
23 execution of this, to look at alternatives and ingenious and
24 out of the box ways of distributing the traffic so that
25 everyone is impacted, because we all chose to live there.

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1 And chasing butterflies or throwing Frisbees in the streets


2 in that area is never going to happen.
3 So also, as far as 22nd Avenue, beautifying it is
4 perfect. My opinion is mess around with the traffic flow,
5 and one of the few major arteries that we have is to play
6 with fire. This is like this gentleman here, you had very
7 good ideas, narrow the lanes, create back bike pass, or
8 whatever you do, but I think that easy solutions always
9 bring problems. Channeling and blocking is not a solution.
10 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I cut through 27th Avenue, and
11 when I take the kids through church, I cut across your
12 neighborhood. I go to gymnastics. I cut across into the
13 church. So closing the street and putting up those barriers
14 they're not going to stop me. I'm going to find a way to
15 get around it, not because I hate traffic, I don't want to
16 be on the main highway, I don't want to go slow, but I just
17 don't want to be in massive gridlock. So closing these
18 streets is not going to stop me from getting around.
19 I go through Beba's street all the time when I go
20 downtown. When I have work at the Civic Center, I go down
21 16th, I took 27th Avenue and I cut through 16th. You're not
22 going to stop me. I'm going to find a way because I hate
23 going on main arteries, and it's not because I want to
24 interfere with anybody, it's just that the way I drive.
25 So I think all these considerations need to be taken

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1 in as whole and not how this project works or this one. I


2 think something needs to be done, but I think it needs to be
3 done with all the community. And whether you notify
4 300 people or you notify 5,000 people that live in that
5 area, I think everybody has the right to be notified,
6 whether they come to the meeting or whether they pay an HOA
7 or whether they've done. And I know I'm not too good
8 speaker. Thank you.
9 MS. HERNANDEZ: Hi. My name is Arlene Hernandez,
10 and I live on 23rd Terrace. And I just want go on the
11 record and state that I'm completely against the project. I
12 appreciate the homeowners association and their work, but
13 I'm a believer that just because work is put into a plan,
14 you're not going a spend millions of dollars on something
15 that's not working.
16 I also -- I find problematic when you said that I'm
17 the representative of only my area. You know, that you said
18 over and over at the beginning, when there's Kendall or West
19 Chester. And I understand, but the matter of fact is that
20 we do not live in a vacuum. When you move one piece, you're
21 going to affect another. Even the study shows that when you
22 block these streets, you're only shifting the problem. The
23 current reality is that Coral Way is already unbearable with
24 traffic. US-1 is also unbear able. You're only adding to
25 the problem.

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1 The reality is, yes, it's in my area, but everyone


2 else has to commute to different parts of Miami. And to be
3 cutting down four streets I just think is not the problem.
4 And I think, yes, okay, we spent what is it, how much was
5 spent on putting the blocks?
6 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: 39,000.
7 MS. HERNANDEZ: Okay.
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: 8,000 putting them back up.
9 MS. HERNANDEZ: Right. But my point is if you would
10 have done more research and actually talked to more people,
11 this the first time that I got a notice for this. And had I
12 saw things that were up and I saw the e-mail, that sign
13 lasted, I think, like two days and then it was knocked down
14 or taken off. And I e-mailed multiple times and called and
15 I didn't get a response.
16 So that's the reality. There's no communication
17 something was put in place. The money was spent, but
18 probably if you sat down and spoke with the neighborhood,
19 you could have saved all that money. You blamed that guy
20 who came in an took out all those poles. I blame the person
21 who even put in all these poles without even talking to the
22 neighborhood. That is who is, I think, at fault here, and I
23 think the bigger more macro review needs to look at this.
24 Like, we don't put in a site where you're just going to try
25 to fix this one part, and not fix the bigger issue.

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1 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So I do have two


2 responsibilities. I have a responsibility as a commissioner
3 to protect the district that I represent. And I have a
4 responsibility as the PPO and PO member of this commission
5 that's named me to the PPO and I'm vice chairman of the
6 macro solutions that is plaguing us daily. And I think I
7 tried to lead on both of those different, you know, those
8 different priorities. I still have different priorities
9 that I have.
10 You know, I can't really dispute much else that you
11 said. I mean, I still cannot condone destruction of public
12 property under any circumstance. When I approved -- when I
13 initiated -- there's going to be a lot of decisions that
14 we're going to make in public, and this is the way to
15 express it. Properly coming in and let's talk about it and
16 let's come to a conclusion and decision, and like everything
17 else in life, you never walk away with a hundred percent.
18 We try to do the best we can. Some people agree, some
19 people disagree.
20 MS. HERNANDEZ: And I do appreciate your work, and I
21 do think you are working for a better thing.
22 But my thing is that we're here to see how we move
23 forward. Because clearly this isn't working. So --
24 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I think that's your opinion,
25 and you're entitled to it.

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1 AUDIENCE MEMBER: No, no, it's clear. It's clear.


2 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: And it's the opinion of many
3 of you.
4 MS. HERNANDEZ: So what is the next step moving
5 forward, after this talk?
6 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So what we discussed is we're
7 going to continue finishing this hear. Hopefully, finish
8 the study. Now, I have doubts as to whether or not the
9 study is valid, which is going to raise questions. I'm
10 going to sit with Commissioner Barreiro and we sit with the
11 County and we're going to come up with solutions and then
12 we're potentially have to have another meeting.
13 AUDIENCE MEMBER: And you will notify us, how?
14 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: The same way that we notified
15 this hearing. I think we did a pretty good job and I think
16 everyone would agree that it's pretty comprehensive. And
17 again, people complained about decisions that we made based
18 on community needs that we had with the homeowners
19 associations, and I can understand there's a lot of angst
20 about that. But those were attempts to communicate with the
21 community. What I think was missing with the attempts to
22 communicate with the community and there were thousands of
23 people that are affected that are here.
24 And so I don't want them later on after I make a
25 decision to say, well, I wasn't consulted. No. You have

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1 been consulted.
2 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Were they notified via mail?
3 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Sure. We didn't discriminate.
4 We didn't notify some people and not other people. We
5 notified everybody that we could notify.
6 AUDIENCE MEMBER: The previous ones, how where they
7 notified? Because I'm only two streets over and I didn't
8 receive anything.
9 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I'm just telling you how we
10 did this. I can't speak to how other organizations notified
11 of the meetings, but that's them. We notified on
12 Nextdoor --
13 AUDIENCE MEMBER: But I'm -- I'm just -- did you
14 just send one thing. I'm just -- just because I want to be
15 active, and so I'm curious how this got so far along, there
16 were renders, there were findings, and this is the first
17 notice that I'm hearing to say it's a bad idea.
18 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So just like this is the first
19 time you're hear to say it's a bad idea, there are
20 30 people, hundred people that have not heard about this.
21 So potentially, if we made a decision today, let's say I
22 listened to 300 --
23 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I don't think we should make a
24 decision because clearly there's not --
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1 that's --
2 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think they all have the right to
3 be notified when we're so close and affected.
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: I agree. And that's why we
5 notified the way we did and that's why you came. But there
6 are many --
7 AUDIENCE MEMBER: My question is, this is just
8 already after the plans are. How is it that the plans got
9 so far without calling for a public meeting?
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Because we have called for a
11 public meeting.
12 (Audience reaction.)
13 AUDIENCE MEMBER: I did not receive a notice.
14 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Just because you didn't
15 receive notice it, because we called a meeting, doesn't mean
16 you didn't get a notice of a meeting. I guess that's my
17 point is that there are 300 people here that got the notice.
18 So if we made a decision based in part on what was discussed
19 here, they're maybe 3,800 people that come back and say, how
20 could you do that?
21 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: I think all of you have a
22 lot of questions, obviously. But I think and I always think
23 of the process of how we got to this point. So I think the
24 issue is we want to pick at this meeting and my priority is
25 to get as much input from everyone. I think the issue

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1 you're asking for the response right now, while I really


2 want to hear your questions, I don't think we're ready to
3 hear all the responses right now. But there is a lot of
4 questions and concerns as to the entire process, how we've
5 gotten here. But we're going to make sure that we, you
6 know, get the right -- get all of your input, and listen to
7 the study. In my view right now, at least let him finish
8 and I think at that point in time, there would be a decision
9 made between Miami-Dade County, myself as the commissioner
10 for the City of Miami, and then we will make a decision.
11 (Court reporter took a recess.)
12 MR. DAY: Hi. Jason Day at 2345 Southwest 24th
13 Terrace. So grateful for you putting this meeting together
14 and I'm incredibly excited to see so much energy out and
15 folks are really upset about some traffic issues, and
16 there's some things that I could probably add to this. I
17 think some of this moved forward because we had meeting
18 after meeting with 24th Terrace, 17th to 27th Avenue with
19 folks we've been where you are. We've been there for many,
20 many years. Fingers, fights, car accidents. I mean, only
21 probably three months ago within a week span of time there
22 were three accidents at 22nd Avenue, people cutting across
23 taking the very easy out off US-1, 17th Avenue to 27th
24 Avenue. They fly through it.
25 We've been screaming for years and had long meetings

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1 like this and so when we get to a place where we're talking


2 about open streets, just Commissioner Barreiro so glad
3 you're here and we're having this discussion. Maybe -- we
4 don't have open streets. From 27th Avenue was redesigned,
5 it funneled cars and it funneled the queue from 27th Avenue
6 to get onto 24th Terrace is the longest queue in that block.
7 It can accommodate six cars. The amount of west-east
8 traffic to get on 24th Terrace is still a phenomenon. We
9 haven't gotten relief. One got one direction relief. We
10 did get a lot of relief east to west when the poles went in.
11 Folks talk about we moved the traffic. We didn't
12 move it. I mean, we weren't consulted by the engineers, by
13 the planners. I mean, a plan came up, I had no say in where
14 that traffic went. I don't think it should go to any
15 street. I think -- I'd love to have 22nd Avenue blocked off
16 all the way because it makes a big decision in our quality
17 of life.
18 The issue is, and I'll offer something to
19 Mary Street and the opposition to this, it's not been
20 mentioned yet, and that is that we need to do a lot. We
21 heed to hire three tables because one -- we have three on
22 the street that don't work. It's got to be higher. Our
23 paperwork for a speed table in my block when in last
24 December, we had to revise a few things. I think the last
25 one went in, in February. The process is very slow. And

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1 now we got to figure out different design issues. So takes


2 a long time for these things to happen.
3 We need more stop signs. We need to reduce speed
4 limit signs, and I mean, when folks say let's take down the
5 poles, this is not going back to equality. We didn't have
6 equality before.
7 AUDIENCE MEMBER: There are other solutions.
8 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Ma'am, guys, please.
9 MR. DAY: Only one person acknowledged that, I think
10 it was this gentleman. We do need equality. I'm for
11 equality. I don't want anyone getting burned. I mean, I've
12 walked the neighbor and put a lot of energy into this
13 because I want it to be a better neighborhood for all of us.
14 We need an alternative on 22nd Avenue. Maybe once
15 we do the pole study, once we have the data we need, maybe
16 we alternate streets, we create something mobile so that
17 every month a different street gets the traffic. That would
18 be equal. Going back to the way it was is not equal, it
19 just dumps it back to where it was. Yes, there's a lot of
20 us that are angry. We've spent three years working for
21 something, it changed. We had no say in the design. We
22 were grateful for getting relief.
23 This doesn't work, I agree. Nobody should be
24 getting killed in the way we were before. Something has got
25 to be done. It's dangerous out there. The accidents.

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1 Somebody is going to get hurt. Pets have been killed. Car


2 mirrors -- the number of car mirrors that have been taken
3 off on 24th Terrace is phenomenal. So we definitely need to
4 get something done. I'm glad everybody came out today. I
5 hope we can come together and work towards a solution the
6 community can embrace. Thank you.
7 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Wrap it up now.
8 MR. RAMOS: My name is Cesar Ramos, and I live in
9 the area. There's only a handful of points I want to make
10 to you and to the gentleman here. Number 1, yes, I do like
11 Kimley-Horn. Kimley-Horn was the one that hired Trident as
12 a consultant. Correct me if I'm wrong, sir.
13 TRIDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Yes.
14 MR. RAMOS: Okay. This is available via public
15 records request, that I urge you by the way to, you know, do
16 some improvements in that office because they don't do great
17 work.
18 Number 2, sir, there was only one camera. One
19 camera. I took the picture. I also am the one that took
20 the picture of the counter that left her post, and I took
21 the picture as the supervisor that is in that corner was
22 talking to me. So sir, your counters do leave their post.
23 Don't insult my intelligence. I took the pictures. I
24 talked to them.
25 Last ly, at this time, I would like to address that

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1 I took pictures of the staff. I was probably right here.


2 Okay. We have a maintenance agreement here. This document
3 was signed by the City, and it was never signed by the
4 County, as you can see here. Let me restate for the record,
5 it was never signed by the County. You proceeded to do a
6 project with my tax money, our tax money. You're putting my
7 money at risk by proceeding with this project. You
8 understand that I work in finance. If I do this sort of
9 shenanigans, I get fired.
10 I want to make Point Number 4 for the record, "The
11 City does hereby agree to remove or relocate improvements at
12 the City's own expense within 60 days written notice by the
13 County to do so. And shall restore the area to the
14 condition existing prior to such installation. Failure to
15 comply with this notice will result in County causing the
16 improvements to be removed and all costs incurred in the
17 removal and disposal of the improvements shall be assigned
18 against the City."
19 You're putting my money at risk. Do the right
20 thing.
21 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you so much. I
22 appreciate that.
23 Thank you all for being here today. You know we
24 started this meeting at 10:15-ish and we've been here for
25 about four hours and 15 minutes. So I want to thank you all

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1 for taking the time. As we discussed -- I'm sorry. I'm


2 sorry. I'm so sorry. I apologize.
3 (Audience reaction. Speaking over each other.)
4 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Guys, guys, guys.
5 MR. RAMOS: I want to say one thing. Just in case
6 you don't understand this part, I think a lot of us,
7 hopefully, there's a lot of people out there that own more
8 than one property. I think I answered your question. Thank
9 very much.
10 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: So guys we have had a very,
11 very civilized discussion for four hours. Let's not break
12 down at this point. I think the discussion has been far
13 better than has been in other forums that I've seen. And I
14 just think, you know, let's everybody calm down, you know.
15 There have been things said that I'm sure bothers people,
16 upset people, anger people, and I'm sure, you know, let's
17 just keep our cool and let's wrap this up. Thank you.
18 MR. FERNANDEZ: I'll be brief. My name is
19 Ben Fernandez, 1837 southwest 23rd street. That's my name,
20 that's my address. I don't have a pseudonym. I don't live
21 in the neighborhood. I don't want to be disrespectful to
22 all. I think it's entirely disrespectful.
23 I want to thank Commissioner Suarez for being there
24 for the neighborhood for over 25 years that I have lived in
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1 our concerns.
2 This isn't about homeowners associations, this is
3 about people. You can talk about failure of a process. You
4 can talk about failure of a procedure, the lack of a
5 signature. Let's put that behind us. You know the tax
6 dollars were spent to put up some poles. The study did take
7 place. If it was mistaken, it's mistaken. The good news is
8 we're all here. We've heard from the area Shenandoah
9 primarily and the neighbors on 23rd Terrace. I feel for
10 them. Guess what? We used to feel that pain all the time.
11 I'm not saying that it's right. I'm not saying that it's
12 right that you're feeling it now, but other streets used to
13 feel it before.
14 I agree with the prior speaker that we didn't choose
15 to leave 23rd Terrace and 25th Street open. That was done
16 by the consultant. Maybe that's not the solution, but we're
17 here and we're talking about a solution. The fact is that
18 22nd Avenue is a runway strip, and when you leave Coconut
19 Grove, what you find is just an open space, fast moving
20 traffic. It's not consistent with a neighborhood
21 environment, you know, the code calls for streets to be
22 modified as necessary to conform to a neighborhood
23 environment. In fact, Miami 21 talks about giving
24 predominance over to the pedestrian over the automobile.
25 So, you know, I've live in the area, I lived on 22nd

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1 Terrace, and then I lived on 23rd Street. I've seen the


2 degradation in the vehicular traffic throughout the
3 neighborhood. Many of you have not. Many of you have just
4 moved into the neighborhood and woke up one day and found
5 traffic. Well, I get that. And that's bad and it's
6 terrible and we need to work forward to address it and
7 improve the neighborhood, because we are getting
8 disproportionate impact of traffic as compared with other
9 similarly situated neighborhoods.
10 And the fact is, that it's really just a big area of
11 queuing of cars, because they're not taking a shortcut
12 anywhere. They all end up back of US-1 or back on Coral
13 Way. All they do is cut through Silver Bluff to get to
14 16th Avenue, back to the light, down just one block onto
15 17th Avenue. That's all they're doing. They're going in
16 Beba's Street, they're going in my street, they're going
17 through 23rd Terrace, and then they're going right back to
18 Coral Way, because there's no way to get to the road.
19 There's no way to get to there, that's a dead end. That's
20 all dead-end streets that lead to the metro station.
21 That's ironic isn't it? Our Viscaya Metrorail
22 Station has dead-end streets. You can't drive to our
23 Metrorail station. It's a problem. It's a problem that
24 we're dealing with, but don't think that these streets are
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1 so forth. They're not. It's a big queuing area for people


2 that want to drive quickly, not sit in traffic, because
3 through our neighborhood to get right back to US-1, making
4 it tough in front of a block worth of cars. That's not an
5 effective transportation mode. That is simply destroying
6 our neighborhood for the sake of their convenience, whether
7 it's Shenandoah that's coming south to Silver Bluff, or it's
8 Coral Gables coming, you know, east to Downtown. But I
9 don't think that that's right. And the fact that our
10 neighborhood has been improving.
11 The Commissioner has been at the forefront of
12 keeping zoning under control, of fighting neighborhood
13 commercial intrusion into the neighborhood areas,
14 beautifying landscaping, traffic calming devises all
15 throughout the neighborhood. We could use more of that.
16 You know the history of Coconut Grove and the town
17 of Silver Bluff is that it was all one town, from Coral Way
18 to the Bluff, which is on Bayshore Drive. And what happened
19 to our neighborhood is that it was divided by US-1, the same
20 way that Overton was divided by 95. And the connection
21 isn't there anymore, but we can easily reestablish it by
22 creating a beautiful corridor on 22nd Avenue that connects
23 the banyans on Coral Way that connects 17th Avenue, US-1 to
24 Coconut Grove and Shenandoah. We should all be in favor of
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1 an impact on 23rd Terrace. Nobody's in favor of that. I


2 feel for you guys, because I experienced it for 12 years
3 where I live now.
4 I get it. But don't take two steps back. I get
5 that we need to reaccess this. Maybe we should have
6 somebody else take a look at the transportation data. Let's
7 do it. But we have the ear of the commission, we have the
8 ear of, you know, our next mayor, I think, and, you know, we
9 need to not lose that momentum. Thank you.
10 MS. KAREN: My name is Karen. I live at 16th Court
11 and 22nd Avenue -- Street, I'm sorry. I don't live in any
12 of the open or closed streets. I actually live near
13 Mrs. Beba. I see that you guys are putting a lot of effort
14 in just one street, when we all are suffering traffic
15 problems. I see everybody talking, let's close this, let's
16 close that, and what about us? Because we have different
17 interests, nobody cares about us. Because what's happening
18 that our commissioner doesn't want to speak with the HOA,
19 and I know what the issues are.
20 I cannot point any fingers or say anything because
21 I'm not aware what happened. But it's just please, we need
22 solutions for everybody, not only for the people that lives
23 on 22nd Avenue, or the streets that are near that avenue.
24 We all are suffering traffic, it is true. But the project
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1 it's causing division to people.


2 People are being nasty, people are harassed. I have
3 been personally harassed. I'm not going to say who, but
4 it's true. People have been very nasty. And nobody's
5 bringing solutions to me. Nobody cares about the other
6 streets, the streets that are near 22nd Avenue. Why? I
7 would like to know why. And I would like to have a study
8 that are comprehensive from all of our community and people
9 are saying no Shenandoah, no Shenandoah, no Shenandoah, yes,
10 we are committed. It's the nature of our community. We are
11 connected, whatever happens in Coconut Grove affects us.
12 Whatever happens in Shenandoah affects us. So please do
13 something that's really wise and can help everybody. Thank
14 you.
15 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: The last speaker.
16 MR. JAKE: My name is Jake, and I live at 2324
17 Southwest 26th Street. I'm a happy resident of Silver Bluff
18 since 1883. My daughter spoke before. She was born there
19 as my other two children. She moved back into the
20 neighborhood three and half years, four years ago. She
21 loves the neighborhood. As many of you all have moved into
22 recently, maybe others in the year 2000, 2005, 2010.
23 There's been a lot of transition since I moved into the
24 neighborhood, and my wife and I we bought our house with
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1 away. And we get a lot of traffic. Probably a little more


2 than 23rd Terrace because it's continuous traffic throughout
3 the day. We got buses in the morning, you got trucks that
4 are bringing lumber materials, Shell Lumber and other
5 industrial areas down on 26th Lane.
6 But in any event, what I hear is lot of complaints
7 and I understand that a person from a residence at
8 23rd Terrace. I'm myself went down there and spent a couple
9 of hours in the morning and also in the afternoon, and you
10 are right, there is high volume of traffic making a left
11 turn there at the moment. Now, remember, you're a pilot
12 project so if that's not finalized yet. So this a good
13 venue. I thank you, Commissioner, for doing such a meeting.
14 In fact, rarely has that happened before, so I commend the
15 commissioner for doing that.
16 Now, having said that, I happen to work for the
17 County, and I was involved in the improvement of Southwest
18 27th Avenue from US-1 to South Bayshore Drive. It took a
19 long time to do that avenue. There's Tigertail that became
20 a peanut. For those of you that have some interest in that
21 area, I suggest you go by there, and there's a similar
22 project as the one that you all counting at 23rd Terrace,
23 but the good thing is there's a solution. There's a
24 solution.
25 So being an architect, I mean, I'm also a

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1 neighborhood planner and I've been gifted by the good Lord


2 with the talent to draw, and I do a lot of pro bono work,
3 and I thought this was a good venue here to come and express
4 myself with my experience, which is over 35 years as an
5 architect and urban planner. In fact, in Golden Beach, I
6 served at chief building official. I'm not promoting
7 myself. I did a master plan Golden Beach because Golden
8 Beach had a mile stretch of a street called Golden Beach
9 Drive. There are a lot of children over there. Since I'm
10 an advocate for children and their safety, I decided to do a
11 master plan on my own.
12 The town did adopt the master plan, and I encourage
13 you all if you're ever in the area go and take a ride down
14 Golden Beach. It got materialized. Now, they have
15 sidewalks, they have turnarounds, they even got a gateway at
16 the main entrance. Having said that, I brought here a
17 solution that I think it's only an idea, but there is a term
18 used that's called chicane. Basically, it's like a bird or
19 something to make difficult for traffic to flow and slow
20 traffic down. So this sketch here that I did overnight
21 basically is showing a chicane. This is actually on
22 26th Street. 23rd Terrace is an intersection it crosses.
23 So let's say this is 23rd Terrace. If you build a chicane
24 on 23rd Terrace, you definitely will stop traffic from
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1 What we did on 27th Avenue is similar. Here's this


2 picture here. When the drawing was done by the engineer,
3 they didn't consider a chicane. When it was built, we got a
4 lot of calls from the neighbors on the avenue that they were
5 turning. So the solution we mitigated was a chicane. And
6 everybody got super happy. So in any event it's only a
7 suggestion.
8 Commissioner, thank you very much, and to everyone
9 else I think we're all in agreement with the beautification
10 of 22nd Avenue, and this is something it might look at a
11 concept. So you also have a bike lane, which is going to be
12 the future conductivity to the future of the other line.
13 Much needed. Thank you very much.
14 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: And thank you. The project
15 that you're talking about adding rails, is that here on
16 27th Avenue when you go from South Bayshore to 27th Avenue
17 to Beale. It is a beautiful project. It is a beautiful
18 peanut? That chicane that's gorgeous. And it's well
19 landscaped, it's beautifully landscaped.
20 So again, I want to thank you all for taking the
21 time to come out here. Once we hopefully finish the study
22 on November 3rd, we will immediately get with the County,
23 both public works, transportation and the commissioner.
24 I welcome your continued ideas and comments. For
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1 we will -- if you want to stay back, we'll try to set


2 something up. Because I do want to meet individually with
3 the ones that want to meet with me individually. So you
4 know, and I apologize if I have gotten a lot of stuff on
5 this, and it's going to take me time.
6 So thank you all. May God bless each and everyone
7 of you. Appreciate you coming out. Thank you.
8 (Audience applause.)
9 COMMISSIONER BARREIRO: So I just wanted to let you
10 know I will work closely with the commissioner, with our
11 department. My position right now is finish the study,
12 whether we support it or not. With all the different views
13 that are out there, in reference to the data, at least
14 finish it, and at that point in time we will have a more
15 definitive position. Right now I share with you totally I
16 lean towards elimination of the poles. Don't clap.
17 I don't want anybody to say that's the way. I'm not
18 a hundred percent there. But I lean that way. But I'm
19 going to work with all of you, and I'm going to make sure
20 this is transparent. One thing I throw out, maybe when we
21 get more I do charrette, a traffic charrette, forget about
22 the others. Let's do a traffic charrette to make sure we
23 all work on solutions that are comprehensive for the entire
24 neighborhood.
25 COMMISSIONER SUAREZ: Thank you, guys.

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20 42:13,14, 7,12,14,16,18 9,10,12,13, 21,22 123:10,
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24 45:3,4,6, 20,21,23 17,21,22,23 15,18,22,25
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12,13 49:5, 18,20,21 15,19,25 15,18,24,25
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22 50:1,2,13, 10,15,16,23, 12,21 104:9, 20,22,25
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19,20,23 23 80:4,10, 21,23,25 9,12,14,16
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9,17,18,20,22 82:7,8,15,17, 12,13,16,19, 8,17,18,19,
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22 56:1,4,5, 3,4,8,10,11, 5,12,13,14, 133:10,11,16,
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9,10,17,19 84:1,3,10,11, 22 109:2,7,8, 25 134:3,6,9,
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59:5,9,12,21 24,25 85:2,3, 110:1,2,3,7, 135:3,9,22

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137:5,6,9,12, 20,22,25 11:25 129:13 136:8
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23,24,25 28:21 41:24 147:21 149:20 21,24,25
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25 160:6,10, 63:21 toxic 64:5
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