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Interview with Gods
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1– 2– 3– 4– 5– 6– 7– 8– 9– A stranger on the net ............................... 6
One planet ................................................. 20 Security breach ......................................... 38 Inevitable meetings .................................. 55 News from another world ........................ First interview – Creation ....................... Second interview – Life ........................... Third interview – Development .............. Fourth interview – Integration ............... 79 103 129 152 182 212 233
10 – Farewells and revelations ........................ 11 – The knowledge must be passed...............
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I would like to thank my family that always gave me support and comprehension. I also would like to thank the small town of São Lourenço, located in the southern state of Minas Gerais. Although I have born in Rio de Janeiro, since my childhood I learned to love this city, which I chose as my paradise. Its magical waters, the Mantiqueira Mountains, the pure air, birds singing, the delicious food, the sincere friends, and the feeling of living close to nature gave me joy and the balance to complete this book.
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I dedicate this book with all my heart for my dear grandparents João and Firmina.
It‟s all changing. and with an increasing frequency we can see flashes ripping the darkness and huge swirls blocking the vision´s field. but it‟s also undeniable that it still is an astonishing scene. a life sphere surrounded by a freezing vacuum. as we approach the surface.com – i Cavalcanti 1 – A stranger on the net From the space not so distant. orbiting and cutting the great vacuum. dotted by a mixture of brown shades. which from up here seems to be the real paradise. None sound found by ears. The white color that covered much of the extremities is getting blue day after day. an oasis of life. just this miracle. the Sun. the sight of our planet is like a large aquarium. always sending incessantly to us the life's energy. and white lines. Many miles below. and even the shape of the large clouds from upper layers appears to be changing. very quickly. it becomes easier to see that the previous harmony 6 . At its front. gray. a pearl. It‟s true that since some time ago the shades of green are decreasing fast. green. which reaches every existent atom turning our spaceship in a large blue luminaire.interviewwithgods.
children are born and men die.interviewwithgods. police catches criminals. Asia and Oceania. those shades of green are the true oasis inside the great oasis quoted above. The life fight tirelessly in pursuit of expansion. In the middle of all this chaos. At millions of homes around the globe. in the morning. Everything occurring at the same time at all parts. planes and advertising. sitting in front of a computer. depending on where you are. Millions sleep in their homes in parts of Europe. afternoon or evening. The issues and access are the most varied possible. while in America mothers prepare breakfast for their families. There will always be someone sleeping and someone waking up.com – i Cavalcanti seems to disappear. the shades of gray and brown are growing without any control and the noise is mixed in sounds of different voices. hundreds of millions navigate like electronic astronauts on the Internet. Young people are at Universities. We‟re in January 2007. but since sometime this fight has been uneven. in the world. Outside the big blue ocean. an afternoon or an evening. cars. one more day. While some are simply 7 .
8 . He came to NSA (National Security Agency) after highlight himself in a large software company where he developed many projects for the government. It‟s like a new universe.D. Paul was an agent specialized in data communication. People do movements in their bank accounts while industries are developing new products. the team leader of tracking and analysis of strategic information was about to end another day of work. As a Wonder land to search. a universe where everybody feels safe.interviewwithgods. no matter the location or time-zone. 35 years old and Ph. learn and dream freely. in one of the many facilities of the government. This is a virtual world that pulsates and is always available. cultures interacts one with another. they all feel protected by the apparent anonymity that brings a sense of control. Is it really? At Maryland. United States. schools or cyber cafes. ready to be exploited by anyone at any time.com – i Cavalcanti chatting. in telecommunications. others buy any kind of goods. In their homes. Paul. buy. It‟s a place where there seems not to exists the same fears of the real world.
S. 9 . It seeks in these sets of data. wired telephony and radio equipments.com – i Cavalcanti The NSA is the U. through artificial intelligence and algorithms that run on supercomputers capable of performing millions operations per second.interviewwithgods. which captures secretly patterns in any environment of electronic communication considered suspicious or of an strategic interest. government agency responsible for tracking and making analysis of relevant information to national security and potential threats to the Western world. This project consists of a complex system interconnected by devices of top generation. The Echelon uses more than 100 satellites to intercept packets of information that range from e-mails exchanged on the Internet until telephone calls. as the controversial Project Echelon. key words or sounds that fit into predetermined standards dictated by the agency in accordance with its fixed or momentary interests. This activity is done through high technology and secret systems. This corporation works in an integrated manner with other agencies of allied countries sharing information and investigating all sort of suspicious exchange of messages circulating on the Internet. cellular telephony.
Due to the fact that it is a technology that violates the privacy rights of citizens and businesses. The Echelon was harshly criticized when its existence came to public knowledge through ex-agents. in bank transactions.S. The U.com – i Cavalcanti There is a suspicion that the system often is used to invade networks of large companies and governments in search of strategic information. products development. government never gave many details about them. There is no network or computer connected to the Internet capable to escape from its invasive technology. military and commercial ones in order to give advantage to any firm financially linked to American interests. information exchange. Security has become a big excuse for large government agencies to violate the people´s basic rights with a furtive and illegal way in a difficult 10 .interviewwithgods. most of the information on this project is incomplete. etc. The existence of such kind of technology brings to light many questions about the advantages and disadvantages of the advances in modern communication and the increasing dependence we have on the Internet in our daily lives.
development of weapons by countries considered enemies. Paul was analyzing a series of reports that showed to him some cases of suspicious communication among countries of Eastern Europe. The wolf creates the security technology and sells it to the sheep to protect themselves from each other. etc. It's like taking candy from children. Normally.com – i Cavalcanti environment to control where most of people are completely ordinary. international smuggling of nuclear weapons. which was early identification of plans for terrorist attacks. uses the technologies developed with sponsorship of these organs. In most of the time it was only e-mails exchanged by students in search of adventure or local criminals combining petty crimes. In his work bench he talked with the agent Junior: 11 . these analysis were discarded for not to fit in the main project policies. But who can protect oneself from the wolf? On his computer. because even the large companies that invest millions in security.interviewwithgods. and only after a long time it are released to the market.
because there is great pressure from Washington to set a new strategy for fossil fuels for the next decade.Paul: Go ahead.com – i Cavalcanti . I was analyzing data from a large oil company in South America. . boss.Paul: Junior.Junior: Okay. . Please consolidate all this information and prepare a report to our director.interviewwithgods. .Paul: Regarding the messages exchanged by groups in the Middle East and Asia. we‟ll continue reporting daily to our allies. . I have a comment about another subject. 12 .Junior: Okay. It seems they are really doing great progress in the discovery of new reserves of oil and natural gas. I got it. I also want the reports with all communication of governments in all countries that we daily follow.
Apparently the program didn‟t cause any damage to the affected servers.Junior: Since yesterday the system is detecting a range of information traveling through the internet servers in several countries.interviewwithgods.Paul: Do you know where it came from? .Junior: I didn't find its origin yet. .Paul: Have you checked if anything happened to any company affected by the anomaly? 13 . but I also have found that number of servers with this problem is increasing.Paul: Is it possible that to be a new program developed by an allied country? . . and we couldn't identify it. .Junior: I still can't say what it is. So far no government facility or military unit has reported any invasion.com – i Cavalcanti . including ours.
Junior: I still don't know.Junior: Paul. . . I named this anomaly "Inv-10512-07" and I sent all information to 14 .com – i Cavalcanti . it won‟t be easy.interviewwithgods. Its encryption key can‟t be broken. I'm trying to analyze the structure of this program to decodify it. I received the same description from all companies: there was a great loss of speed in their network and in their systems during the invasion. but no data was lost. How long you think it will take to decodify the content of this program? . but the strange thing is that we have made contact with some companies here in our country and all of them reported they hadn't detected anything strange.Junior: Yes.Paul: Let's get in touch with other offices to see if anyone else had also identified the anomaly. but it seems to be a very complex algorithm.Paul: What kind of virus could cause this? .
I'll talk to him to see if he has made some progress. At his desktop.Paul: Once you get some new information. If all of this came from another crazy and intelligent hacker. but there is a kind of protection that prevents to access its architecture. this program seems to be a mechanism that seeks some computer address on the Internet for a particular purpose. we need to identify him and if necessary.com – i Cavalcanti our expert in cryptography.William: Junior.interviewwithgods. I´ll call you later. Have you managed to locate its source? 15 . answered the Junior‟s call. I'm still unable to identify its intention or how it was constructed. the cryptology chief and specialized in creating and unlocking encryption algorithms. who asked him for information on the progress in the analysis of Inv10512-07: . neutralize him to protect our servers. William. let me know immediately. . I'm trying to identify the code system that was built.
making it invisible and hard to be found. and it‟s traveling the world via Internet. The problem is that these source points are located in different continents.William: Do we have a new hacker? . What I'm seeing now is exactly the opposite. it would be very unlikely had this giant coverage.Junior: How would a hacker do this? Even to a multinational company. Usually this type of communication is very limited. 16 . as if it had been inserted simultaneously from different locations at same time. Keep working on trying to break the encryption. Be prepared.interviewwithgods. The program was found by our system on different servers.com – i Cavalcanti . because I believe it will take higher proportions if we fail to progress. . Until today. I'll call Paul to tell him about this. a set of information that can‟t be read. even in cases of terrorism we don‟t have records of unknown information moving through internet in so many places.Junior: We have two teams working on that. from point to point.
The usual procedures are being followed and it doesn‟t seem to be a threat of an aggressive type. Firstly we have discarded industrial espionage because it is appearing in many places at the same time. a three star general of the U. so far.Paul: It‟s traveling through many countries.com – i Cavalcanti Upon receiving Junior's report. but otherwise. NGOs. etc. Army in the area of security: .interviewwithgods.Paul: Sir. we have a problem in an event called Inv-10512-07. universities. We can already say that it‟s a product of high technology. This anomaly was identified circulating on the Internet. Our major fear is that it can contain some kind of terrorist instruction or is capturing information in a stealth way. hospitals. Paul became worried and called the director of NSA. in different types of institutions such as companies. 17 . . we failed to identify its origin or intentions.Director of NSA: Where this anomaly was detected? .S.
com – i Cavalcanti . That is what worries me. without using any technology. a phone call or a hotel reservation. All the times we´ve failed to detect in advance terrorist attacks. it happened because we couldn´t intercept any information that led us to the plan before it could be executed. The success of some terrorist acts took place because of all planning and communication between members has occurred so rudimentary.Director of NSA: Yes Paul. Why are you worried? . .interviewwithgods. but for this type of threat we have the agents. This is the only way to escape from our tentacles. or misuse of weapons or things like that. 18 . through an email.Paul: It‟s because in all other cases it was possible to detect threats in advance.Director of NSA: If this anomaly not appears to be a threat you really think that we need to elevate its status and invest time and resources on it? .Paul: Sir.
. I call you. so let's forward. . 19 .Director of NSA: I understand Paul. I'm changing the status from suspected anomaly to unidentified threat. The mere possibility of something indecipherable to us traveling freely in the electronic devices is a reason of great concern because it means that we could be blind and deaf again. Keep me informed.com – i Cavalcanti Since the Echelon was activated.Paul: Okay. As soon as I have some news. there is no type of information tracked by our specialists that has not been decoded and understood.interviewwithgods.
com – i Cavalcanti 2 – One Planet In 2000. traveling through the Brazilian Amazon and then by Argentinean Patagonia. the group quickly achieved a great success becoming a reference in electronic research and information exchange between 20 . In the website was also created an electronic forum for all members around the world do exchange and share information on various topics posed for discussion by the group. and worried with the preservation of all these wonders. Hans and Catherine.interviewwithgods." The purpose was to create a place without government or business connections in order to discuss freely issues related to environment and human behavior. decided to create a group called "One Planet. and other related issues. flora. delighted with all the beauty and harmony of nature that they found. With little time of existence. deforestation. They created a website to share up to date information on the climate. a Dutch couple. fauna. human behavior. according to the Western calendar. in the eve of the turn of the millennium.
through adding new information and suggesting topics to be discussed. Some of them grow up quickly and often become international. as some currently known. In common. I say this because it‟s much more usual for such groups to be formed by individuals with common geographic interests. An interesting feature of this group was that it had been composed by people of various nationalities. animals and water. The "One Planet" was formed by people rather eclectic on its origins and customs.com – i Cavalcanti people interested in protect the planet and other nongovernmental institutions related to protecting the environment. The cultural diversity is a feature very important in this type of activity. it was formed a group of friends really interested in keeping their ideals.interviewwithgods. After some years of existence and consolidation of the site. The striking difference between the friends of the "One Planet" was 21 . with completely different styles of life. but these larger groups are always divided in separated cells that act independently according to the closer interests. they had an awareness that nature is much more than trees.
and common people. The "One Planet" never had any kind of external private sponsorship. They all were concerned with the quality of life that they would leave to their children and grandchildren. it always had a lean and collaborative structure. So. always keeping the discussion in the field of ideas. All expenses to the assembly of the site and for the creation of materials always have been the responsibility of people linked to its ideas. the proposal was discuss different topics related to nature in deep way and try to find out alternatives to the problems. This group has become highly respected by those who had genuine interest in seeking alternatives to the problems that afflict our planet.interviewwithgods. the internet. scientists. The goal never was disclose offensive material or propose any aggressive action. not just as a 22 . The group was formed primarily by professionals. teachers. who beyond their daily routines always had some time to think about something more. through the most democratic and cheap way.com – i Cavalcanti that since it began. using an philosophical apolitical line of always address issues of global concern and disseminate it to largest number of people as possible.
Among the hot sand and the cold water. João had made progress in his work and had already presented a 23 . On the streets of the financial center. thousands of improvised soccer fields were full of kids playing with a ball and with their dreams of success and fortune in European stadiums. After many years he became a master in biochemistry. The thermometers were displaying 38 degrees Celsius in Rio de Janeiro and the beaches were full of people.com – i Cavalcanti financial issue. the men with their dark suits were melting themselves in sweat to keep a European style. while they were doing their business.interviewwithgods. while whole city was Boiling. was working on his research to project a clean hydrogen fuel-based engine. it was summer in the southern hemisphere. In the suburbs. João. a Brazilian of 47 years. but the world that these children would receive. Besides his project he taught classes to engineering students. hundreds of children were hungry for fun and to get cool themselves of the intense heat. At the research center of Federal University. which he was trying to develop since his degree. Returning to 2007.
suggesting new topics and discussing the issues put in the website. It was 7 o'clock in the morning. as he used to do every morning. he has found many messages from project staff and students seeking for help on the difficult problems of inorganic chemistry. when he attended a seminar on deforestation. a lot of spam. ranging from fantasy messages until the fraudulent emails seeking for personal data. which unfortunately infest all inboxes with all sort of junk that someone can possibly imagine. computers and instruments for chemical testing. but in his country he never found enough financial support to invest and complete his project. As always. As always. João checked his emails.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti prototype car. Among the usual set of messages that he has received. with the messages. In 2001 on a research trip to Europe he was introduced to the group "One Planet". one aroused his curiosity. On his workbench taken by papers. and since then he begin to participate on all discussion forums. which were part of his lessons. It was written in that way: 24 .
Soon we'll send information on the rules and spacetime. the language. Accustomed to see all kind of fanaticism and madness that fills the internet. mainly because it were apparently a matter linked to his personal interests. it's essential we discuss some aspects related to its current development and future. After a long time observing the development of Bio Matrix.This is a personal message.com – i Cavalcanti From: External Consciousness To: João@UF. Thinking that it could be some kind of new theme created by his friends of the group to cause impact.com Subject: “Bio Matrix” .interviewwithgods. he decided to print the message and then get in touch with his friends via chat to see what it really was. The 25 . By moving the mouse pointer over the message to select it. João thought it very curious how the text was written. a curious thing happened. Your temporary consciousness was located by our probes for an extraordinary event.
After listening to some scraps.interviewwithgods. would be an acceptable fact. through a telephone call? Who sent this message would have to know much more. a means of easy access.com – i Cavalcanti message was automatically deleted from the mailbox without any alert. What was once a simple curiosity quickly turned into a concern. João has decided check out if there were any messages on his 26 . A few minutes after read his posts. it seems to be something connected to our group. He couldn‟t save or even print it. In a climate that was more like a thriller movie. and despite the unrealistic tone of the message. because we never joke with serious issues. João thought: . it would be strange. João took the phone from his lab to listen to the messages left on the answering machine.João: Have I done something wrong? How is possible this email suddenly disappear under my eyes? Is it some kind of joke? If yes. he heard through a soft female voice the same text that he had just received by email. After a few seconds of surprise. for his utter amazement. But. because to receive a strange message on the Internet.
and the attendant answered: .com – i Cavalcanti cellular phone. He has quickly found that there was only one voice mail in his mailbox. while I check out this information. Could you inform me the number that originated this recording? . he decided to contact the mobile operator to identify the number that originated the message. there was an enigmatic message recorded with the same female voice.Attendant: One moment please. .interviewwithgods. I was checking the messages left in my mailbox and I've found something weird. 27 . Completely stunned by the situation.João: Yes.João: Good morning. He called the central. may I help you? . Again.Attendant: Good morning.Attendant: Is it for the same number that you are using to contact us? .
João was interrupted by the arrival of other people and by work issues. a copy of all calls is recorded in our system with the source operator identification. Please. The content of each call is recorded on magnetic media for some time. Normally. After completing his help request call. . I have identified the existence of this message to your number. Curiously. number that called. but must have been happened some problem in our system.Attendant: Sir.João: Okay. There is no record of when the message was recorded or the number that originated this phone call. I couldn't access the content of the message. I'll open a ticket for our technology sector to inform about the problem occurred. Whenever he had a break at work he thought 28 . date and time. note the protocol number.interviewwithgods. which did not help him to uncover the mysterious origin of the message. That fact stayed in his thoughts throughout the morning.com – i Cavalcanti .
Every day. Once arrived at his home. Because it was a group with people all over the world." Daily. He worked until 6 PM.interviewwithgods. which has never prevented a constant exchange of words and expressions from other different languages spoken by friends. the language used by members to speak was English. 29 . he picked his personal computer and entered on the website that he used to access frequently to talk with friends of the "One Planet. and through a chat. Typically. the most active members of the group used to enter on the Internet. those who make contact claiming any reason to get personal data from users and deceiving them in order to steal money from their bank accounts and buy goods with their credit card numbers. Perhaps it was some new kind of scam done by an electronic gang. the first to arrive were responsible to create a private chat room and be waiting for the other friends to start chatting. talk about issues related to their goals.com – i Cavalcanti about how it was possible that someone had found him like this. since 23 hours GMT. the day time established for the talks was be determined by the GMT time zone. and what was the meaning of this cryptic message.
an Indian archaeologist.interviewwithgods. he read about the trip made by Hans and his observations. his hometown. Jacques. Hans and his wife Catherine. were doctors in the Netherlands and they worked in a public hospital in downtown Amsterdam. He was a psychologist working in a mental institution located in Quebec. a Canadian of 30 years who studied and graduated in the United States. he taught classes in Pune. he has become an active member of the community contributing with vast material about the climatic conditions of Asia in ancient times and the changes that were occurring in recent decades. Besides them and João. Since that time. He met the "One Planet" through a research that he conducted on biodiversity in tropical forests. I would like to introduce more three members: Duranjaya. his homeland. He has always been very connected with 30 . the founders. when through the site. Degreed in Mumbai. professor of history and geography.com – i Cavalcanti Still on the group.
she was enforced to live with the sad reality of racial segregation. where he‟s got the real perception of sad evolution of climate changes. Mudiwa. born in the giant suburb of Soweto. She lost a brother killed in a protest against the arrest of a political leader. This journey was not easy. Since that day. a South African of 38 years. in real life. among them. we know that the mentality 31 . he participated in several expeditions to the Canadian arctic areas. and to know the group. the difficulties of daily were enormous.interviewwithgods. because even with the official end of apartheid in the early 90's. to have a degree and show to everyone that the capacity of human beings to learn and develop their skills could never be related on their racial or the color of their skin. This realistic experience led him to search for information on internet. she promised to herself to study as much as she could. located on the outskirts of Johannesburg. a fact that had deeply disrupted her family. Since childhood. Unfortunately. the polar warming that was dramatically changing the landscape of the region and forcing the residents to move more and more to the south.com – i Cavalcanti nature and when he was young.
interviewwithgods. and many 32 . How was your day? . She got a great job at a pharmaceutical company where she was part of a research team which developed new drugs for serious diseases. Soon after seeing that Hans had just entered. who presented her the ideas and goals of the group. Since this day they have become intercontinental friends. especially AIDS.Hans: Hello João. Backing to Brazil. but won. Today was a busy day here. wife of Hans. headquarters of the company where he worked. At a medical seminar on infectious diseases she met Catherine. There was a train wreck out of downtown. She has become member of the "One Planet" on a trip to Germany. and at the age of 25 she graduated in biology genetics in the top 10 of students in the course. She suffered. João entered on the chat room to verify if anyone was online.com – i Cavalcanti of some people can‟t be changed from one hour to another simply by the creation of new rules and laws. he typed: .João: Good evening Hans.
whoever did that. . such as addresses or phone numbers.com – i Cavalcanti injured people reached to our hospital. Would be a joke? Would be a joke? In eight years of our group's existence never happened something like this. Fortunately it was not a terrible accident. 33 . like you.João: Wow! Hans. he come to us through the group! . . I just not got in touch with you and other people before because I was really busy. The only people who have access to this kind of information are closer people.interviewwithgods. . She is terrified.Hans: Don't tell me that you received a strange message too? I did receive it.Hans: I agree with you. something that may have some relation with the group. but if I remember. Catherine also received the same message by email and telephone. it never was published any personal information in the site.João: I don‟t believe on what you're telling me! So. a strange thing happened today.
Hans: Good afternoon.Jacques: Really? Did you receive it too? . you weren‟t the only one.Hans: So far I.Jacques: Hello guys! How are you? Do you want to know something very strange that happened to me today? . Probably others in the group received it 34 . About an hour late. I'm starting to get worried.com – i Cavalcanti . . If you are talking about a strange message received by mail and phone call.João: Let's wait a little bit to see if anyone else comes in the chat room. and typed: .Hans: Okay. Jacques entered the chat room. I'll be here surfing and waiting for someone come. Catherine and João. Jacques. .interviewwithgods.
. which was recorded by a soft and beautiful female voice. I suggest that for now. . focused on research. we should keep this fact in secret.John: I received in Portuguese.Hans: That‟s impossible! Something very strange must be happening. We have never had an aggressive stance in relation to any companies or governments. exchange of information and people awareness. the email and the voice message. Let me ask something that occurred to me now. We have kept always a posture strictly scientific. public funds or any private interest. Let's see if 35 .interviewwithgods. Our group never got involved with any movement on the political. and we also never published anything offensive. .com – i Cavalcanti too.Jacques: I received in French. In which language each one received the message? . We never did any protest action directed to any entity.Hans: Wow! We received in Dutch.
interviewwithgods. Because it was sent to different countries in different languages through the Internet and various mobile phone operators. So they decided to wait some time to think about how best to address the situation. an ancient language that he had no difficulty to understand due to his history knowledge background. very tired. I will think calmly on what kind of action that we can take. Another fact to which all paid attention to. try to understand and discover the origin has become a very complicated task. It was not long and soon Mudiwa got in the chat.com – i Cavalcanti someone else received this message. Both also received the same message. He had set the alarm to play early. because in Pune were six-thirty in the morning. was the inexistence in the message of offensive words addressed to the group or any of its members. because he was quite intrigued. They all talked for a while considering the many different possible reasons for this strange message. Duranjaya entered few minutes later. 36 . Mudiwa in Afrikaans and Duranjaya curiously in Rigvedic Sanskrit.
they started to develop one characteristic of almost imperceptible way. in a sense. even after the cryptic message received. a peculiar joy and certain universality in the way of thinking and way of expressing themselves. being in direct contact.interviewwithgods. they were no longer equal the vast majority of people. almost daily. kept them peaceful. Beyond their surface features. this something more that each one of them had acquired. Even each one living in their own country. Something doesn‟t truly badly. Although they were people with such different habits from each other. Perhaps this internal security. the common feeling about the fact that happened was a growing curiosity. with their daily routines and habits. beyond the philosophy shared between them. 37 . Somehow without explanation and despite the strangeness. it was possible to observe in each one of them. which over the time created in them a very strong intimacy. as if something very different was happening to them.com – i Cavalcanti They used to talk very frequently.
Junior: I have activated our probes over the international cables in the Atlantic.Junior: Paul. Paul was anxious waiting for some news about the strange program that had been identified. Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf.Paul: What you got? .interviewwithgods. the situation on the Inv-10512-07 is much more serious than we thought. We have activated also our satellite network. on his desk. and again. 38 . we found the same packets in mobile phone networks. I spent all night trying to track it on the Internet. . Pacific. I have identified some voice packets flowing through the telephony networks with the same standard of encryption found on the Internet.com – i Cavalcanti 3 – Security Breach At NSA. when suddenly the agent Junior arrived and told to him: .
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- Paul: I‟ll request now the agency to change it status to real threat and I‟ll communicate the pentagon. Let's call William through a conference, to see how much he progressed. Paul called William, and quickly everybody got in conference: - Paul: William, I need a technical opinion on the Inv-10512-07. - William: We have a critical situation here. I have spent hours studying the characteristics of this program. All I can say is: I never came across anything like this. - Paul: How so? Is it some kind of threat to our network? - William: I can‟t say this yet. - Paul: So, what we got here?
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- William: It was developed in an unknown programming language that uses patterns of formation different of ours. This is beyond all the technology used today, even ours. - Paul: How is it possible? - William: In our current standard of electronic technology, all data are converted into binary code to travel through processors, cabling and communications‟ equipments. When the data packets arrives at its destination they are converted, for example, from binary to voice in telephony, to words in text editors, and so on. The Inv-10512-07 certainly has an internal programming architecture more advanced; it was built in a completely different architecture from ours, different from anything that I have analyzed before. Each set of data brings embedded in its structure a binary code, which is being captured by our security systems. Moreover, there is a range of information that is indecipherable simply because it is in another pattern! Our hardware can‟t understand its contents. I haven‟t heard about any
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country or company that is working to develop some new standard hardware and software. Normally, we would do this. - Paul: So, this is an unknown threat? There is any chance of some hacker has cheated our security systems? A terrorist group funded by a country would be able to develop something like this? - William: I think not. The strange thing is that so far there is no record of any hostile action. They didn‟t invade any server to steal information, or even altered the content of sites. They are simply using all the communication systems for some purpose not yet known. - Paul: Junior, have you entered in the systems of telephony companies in search of the contents of the voice packets which we have found? Anything strange was found on the calls‟ records?
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- Junior: Not yet, we are sweeping all calls. Our partners in Europe and Oceania are helping us on this effort. Suddenly, the phone on the desk of Paul rang out interrupting the conference. On the other side of the line, the NSA director said to him: - Director of NSA: How are we? - Paul: Just a moment sir, I'm seeing on my monitor that the program has changed his own behavior. It seems that after hours of great activity on the Internet, around the entire globe, it was detected a huge activity of these packets on telephony networks of some specific countries: Canada, South Africa, Brazil, Holland and India. I‟ll check out this information immediately. - Director of NSA: Okay, I'll let you keep working. As soon as you have any further information, call me immediately. I need quick answers.
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- Paul: Okay, understood. Then Paul told to the team: - Paul: Guys, I want a complete analysis upon all this information immediately! All our offices are now in the highest level of alert. At this point the president must have already being informed about the problem. As you know, since September 11th attacks, any suspect information captured by the agency should be informed immediately to Washington. As all you know our motto of work now is: “It’s better exceed some limits in the beginning than collect the bodies later". Moments later, Paul addressed: - Paul: Guys, we're on high alert. There is a real and unknown threat to national security, perhaps even worldwide. Let's form a work group. Please enlist your teams and meet me in five minutes at the control room.
But this time it seemed to be different. the excitement came from the technical team and not from political and military. there was people running and bumping into each other. the team stopped for a brief meeting to update the information.com – i Cavalcanti A real buzz could be heard in the corridors of the agency. I crossed some keywords with the records found on email servers and telecom operators in South America. but as I said before. The last time happened something like this. we couldn't identify its destination or intention yet. who probably would arrive a little bit later.Junior: Guys. who was doing a scan on the network. Then Junior. After several hours of work. I have already confirmed that the Inv-10512-07 has passed by those servers.interviewwithgods. I accessed the company systems and I found out on the 44 . it was when the Allies were to attack one dictator in the Middle East and the search for strategic information drove almost all to the madness. and I've found on the records of a mobile operator in Brazil a complaint from a customer about a strange message written in his voice mail. interrupted the conversation and said: .
The director of NSA. Surely. I didn't find the text of the message in the records of the operator. was answering the questions: . I want all the information. We already have a target to investigate. it was probably deleted. . At this point the main cabinet members of the White House. a description of a strange message received.com – i Cavalcanti complaint's text.President: Why did you take me from my bed at this hour? What's happening? Anyone have an answer? 45 .interviewwithgods. even his favorite food! We need to discover the content of that message. The customer tried unsuccessfully to identify the origin of it. they were doing all sort of assumptions about the problem. Make a survey about the owner's phone.Paul: Good job. very pressed by all. this voice packet was decoded when it was sent to the recipient cell phone. meeting with the president and his secretary of defense.
Secretary of Defense: No sir.President: Oh God! We already know if it is a threat? Let us first know what it is! It was reported some movement of terrorist groups? Did we intercept some data on displacement of weapons or any plan to attack our country? . we just can say 46 . we are with several teams trying to identify the origin of this abnormality in the network. But so far.Secretary of Defense: President. President. .interviewwithgods.President: For now let's keep everything in secret. don't it would be wiser to put our forces on alert? We still don‟t know what is threatening us.com – i Cavalcanti .Director of NSA: Mr. apparently there is no sign of military alert or any information about enemy troop movements. . Has the NSA any concrete information about this possible digital threat? Any idea about whom or what is causing this? .
but on the other hand. and with a technology that we still can't identify? How will we defend ourselves from this kind of threat? Aren't our systems enough secure to repel a digital attack? . I think it might be wiser to send a team for capture and interrogation of the target. . We're working on it.com – i Cavalcanti that it‟s very advanced and quite different from the technology used by us. President. we‟ll let you know immediately. so far there was not identified any hostile action from the program found. We‟ve identified one of the apparent receivers of the message. we also can't decipher its contents yet.Secretary of Defense: Mr.interviewwithgods. Once we have all the information about him.President: Are you saying there is some program acting freely through our network. We‟ve identified one of the apparent receivers of the message.Director of NSA: Sir. . It's a person located in Brazil. Do you agree? 47 .
without 48 . We shouldn't scare him. I suggest that initially we only monitors the target at a distance. he will certainly talk with other members of the conspiracy. under a risk of losing the only current source.President: Okay.Paul: The most part. but we still couldn't locate the recipients.com – i Cavalcanti . . the director took his phone and called Paul in the agency: . This is a scientist working on the development of a new fuel.President: No. .interviewwithgods. have we already all data of this first target? .Director of NSA: We know also that similar messages were sent to other continents. I'll make a couple calls.Director of NSA: Paul. Immediately after the meeting in Washington. for extract as much information as possible before a field action. If there's a plan of attack. sir. Keep in touch.
interviewwithgods. They are pressing me here in Washington.com – i Cavalcanti much success. I think that I have discovered something interesting. After concluding the call. . Few minutes later.Paul: Please give me an hour so that we can complete the sweep of his communications. the agent Junior with an expression of satisfaction spoke to his boss: . I'll contact you.Junior: Paul. So far we didn‟t find anything abnormal. If you can't get more information about the target. the team has continued to sweep the entire life of the poor João. . This target is part of a group of environmentalists called "One Planet". when you have something new let me know. we'll probably have to go after him. I found no traces of Inv-10512-07 in their 49 .Director of NSA: Okay. This group has a website with a lot of recorded content and an online forum. When we have all the information. but the team is seeking for more information.
I also found that he usually chats with his group mates. but apparently they don't know what it is. At this moment. I accessed the enterprise server that offers the service on the internet and I copied the contents of all conversations that they have had in recent days. Unfortunately none of them has put the message‟s text on the chat.Junior: Please read this chats lists that I found. the entire team stood before the huge LCD screen of Junior's computer to read the information.Paul: The João and these people received the same message.com – i Cavalcanti personal records. Five minutes later they looked at each other and Paul said: .Paul: Did you find the content of the message? Are there other people involved? . 50 . You won‟t believe! .interviewwithgods. but I found it on his ISP.
It seems that some members of a group called "One Planet" received the message which we are trying to trace. Asia and Africa. we already got all information. What can this be? How to handle this situation? .Paul: Junior.Junior: A message sent to a group of people starting from an unknown source and apparently smarter than us. one in South America.Paul: Sir. no criminal records on local police or any sign of participation in suspected groups. and the situation is as follows. They all have a completely normal life. None of them have records on any security agency. I want you get all data of the persons who participated in the chat. Some hours later. Europe.interviewwithgods. but it is certain that none of them so far know anything about its origin. one here in Canada. everything. The only link between them is 51 . Paul called his director: .com – i Cavalcanti . after collect all information of the targets. They all had access to the text via e-mail and voice mail. They are located on different continents.
keep in touch. We have found that they communicate each other daily online. 52 .interviewwithgods. Apparently they are only a group of green philosophers. . but no one informed any official agency about it. .Paul: Unfortunately no. According to the read records.com – i Cavalcanti the ecological group.Director of NSA: Thank you Paul. They probably will be reunited tomorrow in the same usual hour. The director of the NSA hung up the phone and quickly met with the president and his secretary of defense to put them abreast of new information. We‟ll be monitoring the next online conversation in search of more information. which also has no record of suspicious activity. sir.Director of NSA: But didn't you find any information that can lead us to the contents of this message? . they are concerned and curious about the mysterious message.
they passed us all the information about the target who resides in Quebec.interviewwithgods.President: Don‟t give them details about this problem. 53 . . I suggest that in addition to monitoring the new chat we should send now some teams to track our targets. He‟s a psychologist who works at a local clinic.Secretary of Defense: I think we should prevent us from quickly.Director of NSA: Yes Mr. In case of any dangerous situation. .President: The Security Agency of Canada has been approached? . we will be ready to act. President. . Say to them it is a surveillance operation on suspicion of terrorist attack. We already asked them to initiate surveillance 24 hours a day in all his steps.com – i Cavalcanti They talked together at the office: .Director of NSA: Yes sir.
Mr.interviewwithgods. wiretaps and field agents. God grant that all this noise can be just a false alarm! . From now all of our resources will be mobilized. my term will be finished. satellites. The other people are in countries with easy access. We‟ll pass all actions to your office in real time. Tomorrow afternoon we‟ll be ready. I don't want to explain myself to any president unnecessarily. but with all information that we have so far. President. Keep all teams on standby if it becomes necessary to send agents to those countries.com – i Cavalcanti . this will be done as you ordered. 54 . If this operation leaks to the press.Director of NSA: Yeah.President: Well. All Internet providers and computers will be monitored. I think would be safer only act on those who reside in countries where we have direct partners. I suggest you to follow this same procedure with the targets from Europe through London.
a new day was dawning. you could see cows circulating freely and elephants' creators crossing the traffic smoothly with their huge and domesticated companions. the old and new stood side by side.interviewwithgods. Still very curious about the message received by him and his friends. buildings with more than a thousand years stood side by side with modern skyscrapers. as it happened since a few millennia before Europeans began to dream of reach these lands. Duranjaya stopped few minutes to take his morning tea and watch all movement that began to take over the streets. a few hours after he left the chat. in a wide variety of colors and smells. On the banks of Mutha River it was still possible to find women washing their clothes over the rocks and see the merchants with their baskets of fruit and spices going to the markets. Along the narrow avenues taken by vendors. From the balcony of his home. At that city. Duranjaya made his breakfast with 55 .com – i Cavalcanti 4 – Inevitable Meetings In Pune. India. On the streets alongside thousands of bikes and cars.
since our last meeting no activity was detected. .Paul: Are all satellites available and active in the pursuit of this anomaly? There is some record of suspicious traffic on the Internet? .Junior: We are monitoring everything. and then he went to his work. Hours later in Maryland. All groups of chat online should be followed. It had been two days since the first signs of the Inv-10512-07. Paul and his team gathered for a quick breakfast. Paul and Junior checked together all steps which they had previously combined: .com – i Cavalcanti his mind confused by the occurred. It seems that the initial objective of this thing was to contact these targets. 56 . but the crucial moments still should occur within few hours.interviewwithgods. after they seeing and reviewing all the data from the investigation.Paul: Have we already entered into chat's site to monitor the users? I want this provider monitored.
He logged onto his mailbox. He‟s probably working now.Paul: Any movement of South African? 57 .Paul: What were the events? .Paul: What about the Dutch? .interviewwithgods. material and scientific work. .Junior: This has already been provided. He probably went to work. They have accessed e-mail. but a few minutes later he left. local newspaper sites. He used a credit card at lunch and after this no new record was found. We followed earlier an activity of some targets in the east of our continent on their computers.Junior: The couple of doctors didn‟t enter on Internet.Junior: In India it was possible to track the target for a short time. . but we detected their arrival at the hospital through the presence‟s system that is connected to the national Dutch health. .com – i Cavalcanti . but nothing unusual was found.
she turned on her computer at the company where she works. Paul: Okay. supermarket or a workplace. At Saint Laurence River. On his way to work.interviewwithgods. Jacques had woken up early in the freezing cold of Canadian winter. but we didn‟t find anything unusual. walking down the Rue Saint-Louis. Soon we‟ll have activity here in our continent. which slowed the citizens preventing their free movement through the city.com – i Cavalcanti . That time of year the streets were covered with a thick layer of snow. The cold was so intense that was not much prudent to be exposed to elements.Junior: In Africa we have record of a purchase with credit card at a convenience store. the traffic of boats between Quebec and Levis was very intense. partially frozen. After that. Over the streets there were only some locked cars and some pedestrians who were walking quickly for a shopping center. Jacques had the strange sensation of being 58 . In Quebec. keep in touch.
Every movement of the targets was being monitored by the NSA team. the agents maintained contact with the central. There was 59 . which reported his position according to images obtained from several traffic cameras installed in every corner of the city. but he not perceived anyone following him. All they had a complete history of long-lasting educational institutions and companies employing them. Normally when the agency was observing terrorism suspects it was common to see that these people often had temporary jobs. Usually they not used to stay a long time in a same place and they were known by a few neighbors. Even with this fact. Actually he was a little bit puzzled by the message received and with conversation that he had with his group mates.com – i Cavalcanti watched.interviewwithgods. With communication devices. This was quite different from the information that was being obtained in the investigation of these people. he continued with his normal routine without realize that two agents was following all his steps in the distance. making possible to follow Jacques from a safe distance and without he could see directly.
the lunchtime was approaching when the agency team began to re-detect instances of the Inv-10512-07 on the Internet. all this consumption of electronic resources and agency's staff would be unjustifiable. had increased the security level of their internal networks as much as possible. including government agencies. If it were not by the strange messages that circulated on the internet. the technicians of the agency could do nothing to identify or restrict access of this abnormality on the sites. Again there were no reports of loss of data or any damage to systems. Paul quickly called the agent Junior to follow this new event. This activity lasted about one hour. Together in the control room all watched the program which started to appear on servers around the United States. Neither this was enough to stop the odd program. and again.com – i Cavalcanti no record of identity falsification. At Maryland. which were warned in advance by the agency. even for their senior officials. passports or any information that would by far make them suspects. 60 . blocking all access outside their units. and this time. These government organs.interviewwithgods.
as if nothing had passed by its security barriers! .Junior: Guys. Junior with a pale expression spoke to all: . The program is controlling all our servers! 61 .interviewwithgods. the anomaly has been detected here inside the agency. it had become clear that this anomaly traveled through the network freely and could not be stopped.Junior: Our firewall is still active.Paul: What? . All our systems are stopped! .com – i Cavalcanti At this time. the anomaly is going through all our data files. in our internal network! That's impossible! .William: Junior.Junior: We are isolated from the outside world! We have been disconnected from the internet. It was also impossible to say with certainty what happened each time that it was detected in one or more servers. Some minutes after the last sign of Inv-1051207.
Paul: Turn off immediately all our computers and unplug all satellites! This thing must be stealing our information! . everything! Even if we cut out the external supply. lighting. the system will turn on immediately our generators. 62 . even predicted by the safety standards contained on the extensive manual of emergency procedures had never been really expected.Junior: We can‟t do that! We have lost control over all systems! They are controlling the entire security network of our building.com – i Cavalcanti That moment. . which is made by the mill that supplies our substation. servers. the receipt of persons elevators. Paul desperately ordered: .Paul: Turn off the power station to cut the energy supply. .Junior: Our energy system is fully connected to computers.interviewwithgods. and controls everything.
Paul: We have to turn everything off. without understand what was happening. The silence came over all. . Before anyone could reach the power generators or that Paul had time to understand what was happening.com – i Cavalcanti . The huge park surrounding the buildings was taken by low-level officials.Paul: Junior. who were stunned and terrified. but we still don‟t know what the occurred damages were. the entire complex was surrounded by enormous confusion. Even if we have to blow up all generators! Let's send a team there now! Few minutes later. The first thing that came into people's minds was the attacks suffered years ago. The staff of the administrative sector was laid out in a hurry. all the monitors in the control room went out. We 63 . what's happening? -Junior: It seems that the activity ceased.interviewwithgods. all forced to leave the site without an explanation. On all computer's screens was only possible to see a command prompt.
I was searching in worldwide network some temporary consciousness for a contact.interviewwithgods. This thing is still controlling everything.Paul: Junior. .Junior: Unfortunately. For the first time the wolf had been placed in a situation without defense.com – i Cavalcanti are still out of the control. Check mate! On all monitors.EC: I'm the External Consciousness. None electronic communication device is working. We are insulated! 64 . is there any way of getting in touch with Washington or other agencies? Anyone else can see what is going on here? . in the silence of LCD screens started to appear slowly a few letters. Paul asked to Junior: . the face of all the technical team made clear his total surprise at the improbable and the unimaginable. After a moment of silence.
Surrounded by his team. I ask you to cease any activity of persecution against these people who I contacted. Any act of intrusion or attempt to steal information will be considered by our government as an act of war.Paul: This is a National Security Agency.interviewwithgods.Paul: Who are you? . 65 .Paul: We can‟t do that unless you identify yourself and explain what your intentions are. Who are you and what are your intentions? .com – i Cavalcanti . .EC: I was searching in the worldwide network some temporary consciousness for a contact. I need to follow the Schedule. Paul began to type: .C: Call me External Consciousness. Why are you persecuting them? We had no interest in talking with you.Paul: So let's make contact to at least try to understand what is happening. .E.
What‟s your intention? . Know who I am is not a matter of words. In 30 minutes I'll send a radio signal with some instructions. this signal will be sent for 30 minutes.Paul: But what is it? Why don‟t we can use this channel of communication? 66 .E.C: In five minutes your systems will work again. . Use your radio telescopes to achieve the signal using the instructions for tuning. .E: Your information doesn‟t interests me.C.com – i Cavalcanti . and will be directed to your continent.Paul: If you can neutralize us so easily. you should certainly be able to extract any information that we have. I can‟t waste time on procedures and bureaucracy.interviewwithgods. but soon you will know what I am not. it does not interest me.
interviewwithgods. called VLA (Very Large Array). which are stored in the database to be processed and identified. etc. All these elements that make up the universe emit radio waves at specific frequencies. The NRAO was a complex located in the state of New Mexico. directed to the same region its forms a large receiver apparatus.E. we‟ll leave instructions and a key that can decode the radio signal. Black holes. consisting of a set of 27 antennas arranged symmetrically in the form of Y. This complex became famous with the release of the SETI program (Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence) which used the antennas in 67 . Each antenna has 25 meters in diameter.C: When your systems have been restored. The VLA was also used for communication with the spacecraft Voyager II when it reached the planet Neptune. The antennas picks up millions of signals from space daily. but together. supernovas.com – i Cavalcanti . For now it's all. The VLA was normally used to capture astronomical signs like Quasars. like a single giant antenna. distant galaxies.
In a meeting that lasted five minutes. all systems started to operate again. he called the President's office. in the face of every weakness and inability to handle the unidentified threat. only the set of information left in a maximum security folder of the primary server with the name of "decryption key". Different. All security systems and surveillance of the complex were functioning as if nothing had happened. Paul contacted the director of the agency in Washington to inform him of all that had happened. After digesting the whole situation so compulsively and quickly. Soon after the end of the dialogue.com – i Cavalcanti search of communication signals sent by other civilizations from space. After the scanning procedure was found that the databases were intact and no information had been erased. it was decided to proceed with the reception of the radio 68 . A file with instructions on how to read the radio signal that would be sent also was left. Immediately after the finish of the communication.interviewwithgods.
do you think these people are using satellites to cause all this damage? .Director of NSA: Our team is coming into contact with the NRAO. we‟ll send all our resources to interception and identification. I suggest that we act with great caution.Secretary of Defense: Sir.interviewwithgods. NASA and European Space Agency. Once we identify the source of transmission. 69 . The spy satellites are on standby. . because if they neutralized our resources so easily they also should be prepared to invade any network all over the planet.com – i Cavalcanti signal and gain some time to think of alternative actions.President: The NRAO captures signals from space. The dialog was: . I have got in contact with our space control center.
Director NSA: Anything is possible. was responsible for receiving information. the antennas began to capture the radio waves. chief scientist of the complex.interviewwithgods. .com – i Cavalcanti . this thing seems to be far more advanced than our systems. There not seems to be an attack from someone who knows our weaknesses for using them. but apparently the architecture of the programs found is quite different from ours. With all apparatus ready for receiving the signal and at the scheduled time.President: So let's continue with planned. working together with the NSA.President: There would be a case of espionage? Is it possible that our black projects have been leaked and they are now using it to intimidate us? . The astrophysicist John. It is much worse. 70 . The NSA team came into contact with the NRAO and passed all the instructions for positioning the array of antennas and frequency range programmed.
They are now relaying the signal repeatedly. It is a small packet of information. the NSA staff was in communication with the NRAO: . . please sends to us immediately.Paul: Do we have the full message? . I just send you the message for decoding.John: Paul. The role of the NRAO was to capture and relay the information to the NSA. .John: Yes. .com – i Cavalcanti During all process. which would be decoded and read only by the research team and the president's office.Paul: Okay John. without having access to the contents of the message. once you have concluded the package reception. I am beginning to receive the radio signal. the incoming packet is complete.Paul: Is it possible to identify the source of the radio signals? 71 .interviewwithgods.
William quickly applied the program left for its decoding. so when I get the confirmation I‟ll call you. Any act of violation will be understood by us as breach of agreement. We are contacting some people in order to accomplish a task. the anxiously expected message appeared on the agency‟s screens: We do not intend and morally we can’t interfere in your way of life. They were selected by our probes. They will voluntarily participate in the object of the mission.John: The computers are doing the telemetry calculations. This work should start from a few to reach many. We will allow you to follow the proceedings at a distance without interfering with the actions and free choice of the people who we contacted. With the encrypted text in hand. External Consciousness.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti . Your interest and interference were expected and are acceptable to some extent. You may observe us without disturbing. Soon later. 72 .
. Our systems have recently found that the radio signals were sent from somewhere in our sun.interviewwithgods. the sun. It‟s an alien signal which is being sent from our central star.com – i Cavalcanti Minutes after the decoding of the message. . We have to confirm the data 73 . this is extremely confidential information.Paul: But how can this be happening? . . John came back in touch with the team at the NSA. which always was connected with the presidential office in Washington.John: Paul.President: Gentlemen. We are receiving a radio signal coming from outside our planet. I don't know if you really understood the extent of what I said. .John: I have information that is dynamite.Paul: John. he said he would transmit the signal for 30 minutes.
Paul: Excuse me for asking. I will rework them by hand.John: I just received confirmation of the origin of the signal. This subject requires absolute confidentiality.com – i Cavalcanti from NRAO. .Paul: Ok.President: Do it without telling anyone.John: I'll get in touch with an observatory in Hawaii and ask them to index their antennas and adjust their receptors with the same instructions that we received.interviewwithgods. . Do we can use another complex to confirm the origin of this sign? . Five minutes later John came into contact again: . we'll be waiting. They may be interfering with our computers. The transmission is actually being done from our sun. . I'll check out all the calculations. but is there any chance of someone being sending this signal from 74 .
75 . I suggest keeping all of our defense resources on high alert. . I can‟t imagine what we can do to prevent its action. This is impossible.John: To do it they should have some equipment to relay the signal from the sun. demonstrates that its technology is centuries ahead of ours. I know it's fantastic.Secretary of Defense: Any way.com – i Cavalcanti Earth and making it appear that was generated in the sun? .Director NSA: If the source of these programs and that message is really from a form of extraterrestrial intelligence.interviewwithgods.President: If this is correct information. but there is no scientific explanation for what is happening. Soon after the president addressed to the director of the NSA: . what we have in our hands? What should we do? . Just the fact that they have easily broke our systems.
President: I have realized initially that this contact does not suggest any intention of war. I think they are here for a purpose.President: If there any ship in space near the Sun or Earth. They broke all of our electronic security barriers.Director of NSA: I'm sorry sir. are we able to detect it? . .com – i Cavalcanti .interviewwithgods. We can use everything that we have at our disposal. but technically they've got us. . but I think you did not understand the gravity of the situation. for some mission with these people who they have contacted.Secretary of Defense: But what if all this is some tactic to surprise us? Do they intend to use these people as guinea pigs for some kind of experiment? I‟ll ask NASA to activate all our telescopes in order to sweep every corner of space in search of any unknown object. The message talks about non-interference in our business. They could easily invade our systems of nuclear weapons. 76 . missiles and other.
Would be some kind of exchange. All of our technology was designed to act against our enemies from here. The only thing that puzzles me is why they have not contacted the government for such a mission. we are virtually helpless if they resolve to take some aggressive attitude. The emergency meeting lasted a little bit longer. we‟ll continue monitoring and waiting until later. We must go with what we have.President: They said they have a job to do and we could follow it. . We can‟t predict how they will act or what kind of resources will be used. . and if we disconnect all this apparatus we'll back to the 20s. In short. when EC probably will be in contact with the targets.com – i Cavalcanti Everything is controlled by the defense systems. without physical contact.interviewwithgods.Director of NSA: Paul. a 77 . Tell to all agents to keep surveillance on the targets at a distance. with much speculation about what could be the intentions of this strange being in relation to our humanity.
com – i Cavalcanti technology transfer.interviewwithgods. or a hostile act? How they found us? Have they traveled through space? For the first time these people were really handcuffed. 78 . and initially the only way out for them would be just observe.
the city considered as the pulsating heart of South Africa.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti 5 – News from another world The night had already fallen in Joburg. whenever Mudiwa left her company located in north part of megalopolis. The clock showed 10:45 PM and Mudiwa was home since eight hour. Joburg at first sight frightens those who have just arrived. wrapped with the household chores that are common to all people who work in full 79 . she walked around many streets and avenues to reach her home. which was a place taken by new business ventures. an island of savannah in the middle of concrete jungle. Every day. as it is affectionately called by its residents. with its visual of gray concrete scattered everywhere. Being a very flat and super populated region without any natural references. as far as the eyes can reach. That has always been a town driven by money. an apartment located in a residential neighborhood not so far from Soweto and very close to Klipriver natural reserve. before generated by the gold reserves and now as the most important financial and cultural center of the country.
just few minutes were separating her from the happy moment to get in touch with her intercontinental friends. the targets will be aware of the importance and seriousness of the 80 . and we took a decision. we were gathered here in Washington examining the best way to handle this situation.Director of NSA: Paul. At that hour.Paul: I understood. We must to contact each target through a phone call in the next few minutes to warn them about the message received by them. and ask for their cooperation in the coming events. In the United States at the headquarters of the NSA. the agency director phoned Paul: . one hour before the scheduled time for the beginning of chatting.com – i Cavalcanti time and live alone. . but such kind of contact won't put us on risk of exposure in the media? What will happen if someone opens his mouth to the press? .interviewwithgods.Director of NSA: That‟s a decision above my patent. I believe with a contact like this.
The director of the NSA gave to Paul all the remaining information. we have all the phone numbers available for each target. . His mobile phone rang and he answered: .interviewwithgods. .Paul: I got it boss.Paul: Good Night.Jacques: Hello. how to approach and the words that should be used when talking with each target. they must be warned about the implicit risks in such situation. can I help you? 81 . Mr.Jacques: Yes. I‟ll start immediately. They started calling Jacques. Jacques Albert? . Paul and his team collected all the procedures. Even though we don‟t have total control of this operation.com – i Cavalcanti situation that they are involved.
government.S.Paul: My name is Paul.interviewwithgods. I know it‟s a somewhat strange situation. and I would like to ask you some questions. Jacques very surprised. . the address of his work and all kind of strictly personal information. Mr.Jacques: How do I know if you are telling the truth? . the name of his relatives. I work for a security agency of the U. . I'll give you some information. but I promise that you soon will understand our reasons.Jacques: Is this some kind of joke? . answered: 82 . the schools where he studied. Jacques.com – i Cavalcanti .Paul: Don't get angry. Paul gave to Jacques a complete report of his life: the motherhood where he was born.Paul: No. sir.
Do you participate in a group called One Planet? .interviewwithgods. I just wanted to confirm this information. .Paul: We had to do a search on you because it‟s a matter of national security. . what's the problem? What is the reason for this call? 83 .Paul: You're right. but why? It's a group composed by suitable persons and it has never participated in any suspicious activity or outside of international laws.com – i Cavalcanti . We‟re friends of the planet and we disclose actual information in order to wake up people to the destruction caused to the environment and living beings by the human‟s irresponsibility.Jacques: So.Jacques: It‟s awesome! How can anyone have access to all these information? This is illegal! .Jacques: Yes. actually we didn't find any records of suspicious activity in your group.
But if you couldn‟t identify the sender. . I talked to some friends who also received the message to decide what to do about it. we know that your friends received the same message. Our agency is working to clarify its origin and purpose. who will? How 84 .Paul: Jacques. . he said: .com – i Cavalcanti . who was still suspicious and focused only on rebutting the interlocutor's questions.Jacques: But with all this technology it should not be easily identified? We were even thinking of calling an official body to warn them about the case. We also will get in touch with them to discuss the matter. and with a trembling voice.Paul: Did you receive a strange message on your computer or by phone? A message that was not possible identifies the sender? At that moment Jacques. froze from head to toe.interviewwithgods.Jacques: This really happened and I found it very strange.
they contacted us saying that they had an important reason to be looking for you.Paul: We have reason to suspect that message was delivered by some intelligence form very different from ours and with very advanced technological resources. .com – i Cavalcanti did you get my information? Isn't it the same technical procedure? . If you disclose this. . the press will put the entire operation in risk and you'll be probably ridiculed.Jacques: Tell me what's going on. Probably they will contact you 85 .interviewwithgods.Jacques: It‟s unbelievable! What would they want with a mere psychologist? . Finally.Paul: I'll pass to you one highly confidential information. actually we know nothing about them. We tracked these files on computers all over the world. We must take all precautions. .Paul: We don‟t know yet. Few people here at the agency access to it.
he asked: . I can just wait to see until where this story goes.Jacques: How can you know if it isn‟t one of us if you can‟t identify them? . So Paul called the other group members. Paul gave an emergency phone to Jacques that could be called at any time. one by one. we'll be ready.interviewwithgods. We'll be monitoring the next chat. After noting the phone number.com – i Cavalcanti again. and if any contact happens. . They said we could follow the mission. This is an unusual and fantastic situation.Jacques: You have scared me a lot. thinking it was just a bad joke. 86 . call us immediately by this phone number. but if something strange happen. But for now. Duranjaya was waked by the call and he had the same initial reaction. but unfortunately I can‟t tell how we got it.Paul: We have this information. if you have any doubt.
interviewwithgods. in despite all the information I received. but what is happening now is so surreal that makes me think. who was with his wife on his computer. The air of mystery and the feeling in each person indicated that this conversation and this night would be very different than usual. this information was withheld to the members of the group. but whenever Paul spoke about the received message. Hans. Of course. 87 . when it passed 5 minutes from 23 hours GMT. The chat was being closely watched by the whole agency team. I saw many things that I couldn‟t explain. wrote for everyone: . By this time everyone was connected to the chat room anxiously waiting for a novelty. a contact.Hans: Throughout my lifetime I have stood face to face with strange and dangerous situations. besides who had gathered in Washington at the presidential office. the initial feeling of distrust was transformed into astonishment and curiosity. that all this could be some kind of fraud.com – i Cavalcanti The same happened to everyone. And so it went until last call.
. The chat room 88 . Should we be waiting? We usually come here daily to talk about matters related to the group. I certainly wouldn't be here and this chatting would be just one in millions that are happening right now. We received the first message by voice mail and the Internet.Mudiwa: How long we have to stay here? What if our mysterious visitor doesn‟t come in? The conversation followed with a dialogue full of doubts and uncertainty.Duranjaya: We don‟t know how they will contact us again.com – i Cavalcanti From NSA Paul replied to Hans: .interviewwithgods. .João: What should we do now? We have not received any kind of instruction beyond the message. when suddenly the initials EC appeared in the online users list. nature and the planet. If so. . we would like that whole situation was just a hoax.Paul: Hans.
just watch. Only texts typed by me or by members of the One Planet will be added. The subjects to be treated here are of global interest. Paul quickly typed: .interviewwithgods. To be in a position of not be 89 . Our visitor has just arrived in the chat room. Immediately. from this moment all agency's people will follow this conversation as listeners.E. For now. and only persons invited by the group members could have access to the conversation. Paul repeated the message and soon received the following answer: . That text dropped like a bomb in the NSA and at the President‟s Office. I ask everyone attention.Paul: Gentlemen. without participating. After some time without return. the NSA staff confirmed the presence of anomalies in the provider's site.com – i Cavalcanti was private. much less for our mysterious caller. Of course this was not a problem for NSA. not of an organization or government.C: How it was said.
com – i Cavalcanti able to control the situation for such people was certainly a big novelty that should be swallowed dry. have sent the message and later come here. So here I am. that's how we call that kind of being. all this causes me a huge distrust. I selected your consciousness for a work to be developed in group. As I said in the sent message. . I‟m the founder of this group and I‟m very curious to know about your purpose. 90 .Hans: Good Evening. because I have to confess you that despite the information received. . EC continued: . don't provide me the necessary assurance to believe that is something serious. or Biomatrix.C: Friends of the Earth.interviewwithgods. The fact of you have appeared.C: Friend.E. This job should start with a few and aims to reach many. I understand your concern and I recognize the commitment to truth and honesty in every one of you. Very soon all these barriers will be torn down and we‟ll do a great job.E.
When you created the One Planet and this communication channel.interviewwithgods. ten or a thousand consciousness don‟t change the fact that we are taking an initiative that will cover everyone.E. using the Internet. the fact of choosing one. I would like to clarify that. fit to the task. but most of them were isolated from each other. The Internet is a great 91 . It‟s normal. All your questions will be answered as far as your minds can comprehend. First. We selected your temporary consciousness for some reasons. you took a giant step in the real integration of temporary consciousnesses and the relevant ideas to the development of Biomatrix. This work needs to be done necessarily in a small group of people from very different places with different traditions and customs.C: This first contact may seem a little bit confusing. considering that your consciousness and Biomatrix are the same living being.João: Why were we selected? About what is this task? Why we have to be part of it? .com – i Cavalcanti . Throughout our search we identified millions of consciousness as yours.
Currently you already have the digital environment to do this task. . as you are. Your group managed to break that barrier in the name of concern for the planet.C: No. I‟ll give you more information about me. but for it to be accomplished there's still a long way to go.com – i Cavalcanti opportunity for the integration of your civilization.Mudiwa: Will we take part on some kind of genetic experiment? 92 . During our work.interviewwithgods.E. you still behave as if you were all separated. I‟m a consciousness. but my goal now is inform you about what will be our mission. protected by the secular mental barriers that still prevents an interaction. . So I contacted you. The big problem is that even into this free environment. I introduced myself as External Consciousness because I live in a reality different from yours.Jacques: Are you a kind of spatial or interdimensional traveler? .
but I have been personally following your Biomatrix since very before any human walking on it. The wide gap that separates us makes it extremely difficult to tune in communication with you. Other consciousnesses like me are following the development of your Biomatrix since its birth. We won't have any kind of physical contact. We already got in touch with temporary consciousnesses previously during the development of your planet. but my perception of time if compared to your perception is completely different. because I don't have much of your time to expend.C: No. which is a huge effort and dangerous for our bodies. 93 .com – i Cavalcanti . through the ages. is directly related to the dimension where the temporary consciousness lives.E. These contacts were performed following the mindset and tools existent in each moment. I'll explain what will be our job. Now. Each time that happens we have to get in your dimension of space-time. It may seem scary. I would like to clarify that the concept of passage of time.interviewwithgods. what you would call a physical time. My consciousness is also temporal. For me it would be impossible.
In that short space of time of your dimension we'll have five meetings and I'll present you some information on four pre-selected topics. now I have to go with the planned. The perception of time is a reality that our consciousness experiences when it‟s limited by a body that gathers and processes all information received through your different senses. it will last as long as this body exists. the time doesn‟t exist. For the Multi-verse.E. a series of interviews where you„ll have the opportunity to receive valuable information and also question it.C: No dear friend. I have no intention or ability to interfere with your natural process.Duranjaya: Is this process like a time travel? .interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti . because it would be a crime against all architecture. I'm here to do a clarification and a guidance job regarding the Biomatrix and your development. But this is temporary. Everything happens simultaneously. in your case mostly in the brain. all is here and now. We'll talk later about it. It will be a great challenge. At the end of 94 . This work aims to create a great integrating possibility of all forms of consciousness that makes up this wonderful being.
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the work I should leave you. I'll continue monitoring the outcome of this effort and its development from afar, for many of your generations. The interviews will be conducted over the next four Earthly days, at the same time and place that you use to talk. The themes will be: Creation, Life, Development and Integration. The last meeting will be used for general clarification of doubts. This small group should record the result of the work and find a way to pass it to other consciousnesses. It's a job to be transmitted in a human way. I don‟t recognize any kind of your civilization‟s organization as an appropriate forum for such dissemination. I repeat that I see your universe as a unique living being. Certainly off the fact of its origin, the information to be discussed doesn‟t make a sense directly for an agency or a government. That's why I chose initially a few consciousnesses. The most important to our work, from my view point, isn‟t the way you relate to each other, your social rules and your policies, but how you relate to what I call nature, as a whole. As a symbolic proof of my commitment to the Biomatrix, during the time from now until the first interview I'll send a small signal to illuminate our work
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and to join our minds. Stay tuned and have a good rest, see you tomorrow. Soon after completing his explanation, EC left the chat room. The blockade that existed for NSA was removed and for some time they talked about the new contact and the proposed work. Catherine wrote: - Catherine: I'll be waiting anxiously for this sign, but I can already tell that I realized something very deep in this received words. If we really are in contact with a higher being, all other things, our daily tasks should stay in the background, at least for while. - Jacques: We just started talking, and how much was said! Only what we have so far worth the effort of a lifetime in search of information to improve our planet. There is really something else, someone who cares! - João: I'm ecstatic! The possibility of all this be real, let me completely out of me. I feel like everything
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that I have tried throughout my entire life has brought me here; it‟s as if I was resuming the real project of my life. - Mudiwa: I always believed that everything is part of a huge natural process of development, but now we have the opportunity to learn a little bit of that process. I hope to be strong and intelligent to absorb as much as possible. - Duranjaya: I'll be at home during those days. I must be well focused to participate in this great event in a fruitful way. - Paul: Gentlemen, now we'll meet on the agency to assess the impact of this new contact. We'll be continue monitoring you, and as I said earlier, if something happens, call me immediately. I ask you to maintain secrecy about everything that was talked, for your safety and of your families. - Hans: Alright Paul, but if this work is really what I think, it won't be at all a threat to your agency or
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government. The interests that your people defend probably have nothing to do with what will be discussed. In the United States soon after the end of conversation, they all went into conference to assess what happened. The NSA director very concerned said: - Director of NSA: Mr. President, how should we proceed now after knowing what are the apparent intentions of our visitor? - President: I guess capture these people or invade and shut down the provider used for conversations wouldn't help us now. As he said before, there are thousands of others who would fit in the task. He could simply change his way of approach and leave us completely out. - Paul: Gentlemen, I agree with this view. We‟re technically unable to take any action to interfere on this process. According to obtained data, this group of people is quite prepared; all they have successful
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careers and a good personal historic. When we need, they will be ready to collaborate with our investigations. We have an expert on biogenetic, doctors, an expert on history, geography, etc. These people were not chosen by chance. All they are intelligent and have already noticed that their lives have been changed forever. - President: I agree. We must keep the entire operation with the smallest number of people. We‟ll continue following the received instructions and keep monitoring the developments. I see no immediate reason to think that he has any intention of doing something that will interfere directly and immediately in our political and social codes. - Secretary of Defense: So I„ll demobilize the alertness to not raise suspicion of an imminent threat. It better be ready, but in silence. - President: Do it, let's keep situation under control. But what makes me curious now is what kind of signal will be sent.
our visitor doesn‟t want to call attention. I want everyone ready and looking closely to the facts. . without any risk of collision. located on a mountain at 4.200 meters above sea level in Hawaii. I'm sure it will be something very subtle. President. the main news agencies around the world distributed the following information: Astronomers from an observatory in Mauna Kea. The good news is that due to its size of about 80 km in length.com – i Cavalcanti .President: Okay. The comet that was named "Millennium" will be seen starting tomorrow at the sky from all continents with a 100 . A few hours after the conversation. According to initial calculations the comet will follow his path on a great distance from the Earth.Paul: Mr. have identified a huge unknown comet that's in his way to orbit the Sun. it will provide a beautiful sight at night when it might be observed without aid of optical instruments.interviewwithgods.
It‟s better to wait and see how the events will unfold.com – i Cavalcanti glare and a long blue tail. In time. 101 . we get in action.President: This new event has raised much our responsibility.President: We must be strong and stay quiet. In Washington.Director of NSA: Even though. if we have any chance. It wouldn't be smart cause panic and despair among the population. and if he had already known about this comet before us? . just the fact of he know and we don't.Secretary of Defense: It may not have been a coincidence? But. The astronomers said it will be a unique spectacle. the president and his aides commented on the fact: .interviewwithgods. after the discovery of the comet. . . We're dealing with something that we really don't know. again gathered at oval room. shows our inferiority.
between tears and an unparalleled thrill. the group friends were taking notice of the comet discovery.interviewwithgods. At a time where most people became accustomed to receiving a veritable flood of daily information. work. The concerns about the usual routine. But for this small group of privileged. one by one. shopping and television don‟t left much time for this kind of phenomenon in their minds. It could only be that. the news was like a vision of a miracle. 102 .com – i Cavalcanti Simultaneously around the world. The life of these persons certainly was taking a path into the unknown. by night or day. food. That was the promised sign. a fact as the emergence of a new comet has not caused great impact on ordinary citizens. all the great events of mankind have always been marked by reference to astronomical sightings that occurred simultaneously. after all. regardless of where they were. Unfortunately this emotion was limited to a few people.
interviewwithgods. In Europe and Africa the last hours of waiting for the first interview were accompanied by its intense brightness. and a few minutes before the meeting starts.com – i Cavalcanti 6 – First Interview . after a night of enchantment of an ancient and superstitious people around the beautiful sight of the comet in the sky. Duranjaya followed its trajectory until that its beautiful glow faded down behind the hills. 103 . In India. At the appointed hour they were all connected to the chat room. towards a new vision. but soon would come the time to New World take a glimpse of this wonder and begin a journey into the unknown.Creation The hours that had elapsed since last contact seemed to be endless for the group‟s friends. the dawn brought the colors of another day. the moonless night sky was taken by the blue of the Millennium. In the Americas only through recorded images the apparition of the comet could be seen. gathered in the four corners of the earth and who knows where else.
My goal is making available a consistent and understandable material for all of you. My presence here is the answer to this need. that I just call life.com – i Cavalcanti So EC began the first interview. When your consciousnesses begin the process of seeking a deeper understanding. and our mission will be let this material ready to be found by those who are seeking. This will be a work of awareness that shouldn't be forced upon anyone. I would like to clarify that the aim of this work is to pass information seamlessly to provide to people a more natural view about the universe where they inhabit. their relations with all other beings and their responsibilities in the development of all this complex system.C: Before starting. writing: -E. such information should be available and accessible. the answers come naturally to him. The result should be a collection of information organized in a concise and easily accessible. 104 . When a being starts his journey in the quest for knowledge.interviewwithgods. It‟s not my intention to interfere in your natural process of development.
let's start our work. Don't expect to understand the literal meaning of creation. Everything constantly changes. our friends of American agency will attend the interviews just as observers. to create. Let's try to see part of this process in a different way.interviewwithgods. Don't worry about understanding or memorize all words. Read what I'll write as if you were characters in this great cosmic history. At our last meeting after the fourth interview. Giving life. The work will be that way: I'll start writing a text on the subject. from my view point.com – i Cavalcanti After the brief introduction. the configuration modifies itself with each new atom that appears or disappears. just feel them.C: Dear friends. and after conclude it I'll open the meeting to questions and doubts.E. I invite everyone to a journey. As established. These words never will transmit the true experience. is the ongoing process that never ceases. Creation. EC continued: . creature. I‟ll open the forum for everyone who wants 105 . movement and sense to something.
even without all this equipment and technologies. to before the birth. Does it have limits? So what exists outside these limits? What was there before and what will exist next? Is it a matter of time? Every space that you have already identified and are trying to visualize in different ways.C: Let's take a trip to before the creation. the great explosion that gave birth to your known universe. At NSA headquarters and at White House there was an entire electronic apparatus to synthesize in voice all typed text. EC has started typing: .E. Everyone was attentive. In the homes of the friends. all that your observatories were able to capture in a small 106 . or as I prefer. and finally I'll leave a final message for ending this mission. with different theories. without exceptions. Universe is a term that you use to describe something which contains everything. So.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti clarify doubts. there was a great anxiety and confidence due to they are taking part of this historical event. I'm talking about the event that your science calls Big Bang.
Like a seed that has been activated. Following the moment of conception. to inside or to outside. when the forces present in other “Life‟s” have joined trough mixing part of its own matter and energy. it's not a question of size but of how far each one can launch your consciousness. a large amount of energy released. We‟re now at the exact moment of its birth. what we see is the beginning of the formation of “Life”. After being launched in every direction. they will always find out architecture and perfection. which from now I‟ll just call by “Life”. A conceptional explosion! Is there other “Lives” (Universes)? Yes. the living energy begins to take specific forms that will meet the needs of this great cosmic tissue which begins to form. initiates the formation of each particle of this new being.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti way. It really doesn‟t matter which direction you go. infinity would be the best word to describe what exists everywhere. The architectural design is surprisingly 107 . Wherever our consciousnesses are able to launch their eyes. it's still a tiny part of what is contained in your universe. many others! Forget about the proportions that you have been used to learn.
but as 108 . Will it be perceived by this new “Life” in the same way as it is for you? The answer is it won't. cells. like a dance of lights that intersect and merge. making it possible to turn this embryo into a cosmic body capable of receiving a consciousness which in the future will have the ability to express itself. tissues and organs. What's time means? I've already talked a little about it. as you prefer. or genetic code.com – i Cavalcanti synchronized. few moments after its creation. until you reach somewhere in its body. Now we're at the point where this new being. a small particle. is beginning to gain smoother and more harmonics forms. an area well known by you. impossible to imagine.interviewwithgods. and each form is established to fulfill a function by following a strict set of project characteristics. Let's dive deeper into the being. But how long is this process? For you it certainly lasts an eternity. finished the stage of transformation of live energy into all specialized energies. From each energy‟s specialized center it will begin to develop molecules. Gradually what was just energy will take different forms. less than a grain of dust. something disproportionate.
a sphere composed by the initial energy that has specialized and has became its core. To fulfill this function. another cell that makes up the galaxy-forming tissue. it can be possible happen a vital process to sustain the existence of the “Life”. to that into its thin membrane protected as a pearl. We'll talk about one of these cellular elements. I'm talking about the part that you call Solar System. This release of energy allows the cell to maintain some 109 . radiating the fuel of life through the nuclear fusion. This name is directly related to its most striking feature.interviewwithgods. It's a true barn that receives the life's energy from its nucleus. In each element of this system. It‟s your planet. limiting it. the even more specialized parts make up its body. Around the system and at all angles. your home. We call this element Biomatrix. Through its body capable to generate bio-forms.com – i Cavalcanti important as everything else. your planet provides physical and mental energy for whole body of the cell (Solar System). a small part of the solar core is used to sustain its living structures. It‟s a wonder! In its center. this element has been endowed with unique characteristics. a being very special to your consciousnesses and bodies.
a Biomatrix don't have many complex forms of temporary consciousnesses and that fact is reflected in its 110 . all elements have a consciousness for express itself. This being is made up of everything that is contained in its body. animals and men. plants. This is somewhat more complex to understand but I‟ll explain carefully.com – i Cavalcanti structural and mental characteristics. at different levels. a very special being. Every part existing in the cosmos have life. All these sub-elements make up this being. Every being that lives in the Biomatrix is the product of its development. including all the lives that compose the Biomatrix. Initially. The Biomatrix is a living element. Like "Life" manifests itself through a consciousness.interviewwithgods. a single consciousness that operates independently. including water. is its extension and has a specific purpose in the whole process. and it can express itself in some way. and every cell and so on. soil. providing specific features according to the stage where it is in its development. each part of it. including you. every tissue. The Biomatrix‟s consciousness expresses itself externally to other cell components trough the sum of all consciousnesses that make it up.
their existence provides a high destructive risk.interviewwithgods. without the ability to recognize themselves as part of global life. One of the most important stages of this development is the emergence of the human temporary consciousnesses. With its development.com – i Cavalcanti limitation to relate externally. without a restricted programming. which causes its planetary body also undergoes changes. Through the more developed brains of the human species the 111 . the Biomatrix gives rise into itself some sub-specialized elements with greater capacity for moving around and to understand better the environment's behavior (planet body). As humans act initially in isolation. But sustain human life is an essential feature for the development of Biomatrix. because this type of temporary consciousness presents a necessary feature: the ability to act throughout its planetary body freely. It‟s a natural process triggered automatically by its biological clock. The freedom allows to the human subelement the capacity to analyze and learn throughout his relationship with all other sub-elements. This is a crucial stage in the process. These elements undergo changes during the Biomatrix's development. which is natural.
the whole network of neurons is used unconsciously. The Biomatrix physically uses every living being and every man. in case of man.com – i Cavalcanti Biomatrix becomes able to start the process of cellular communication more efficiently. the Biomatrix is comprised of everything that composes it. because each living being has an individual consciousness and at the same time makes up something bigger. You know they exist. It‟s a wonderful physical and mental sharing. It uses all of these life forms for exist as a unique being. The life is really perfect. through their brains. to form a huge neural network. Physically speaking. Every man has a temporal consciousness which recognizes itself as unique in its existential field. each one has a brain that allows his temporary consciousness to manifest himself individually. it's integrates itself simply and smoothly. The planetary consciousness can't realize that its decentralized nervous system is the sum of brains of all living beings in the same way that a man can't consciously identify the information and thoughts running through his neurons. but the act of thinking or memorizing is automatic.interviewwithgods. Briefly. 112 .
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Because the man is mentally connected to all the rest of humanity, he is a biological transmitter and receiver capable of connecting with others of his kind and also with the Biomatrix. Through this vast network the Biomatrix can relates itself with other external elements, being able to perceive them and to communicate with them. The diversity, the physical composition and mental health of the brains that make its body has direct influence on the mental level expressed. A Biomatrix that is early in its development and is composed only by less developed life forms has a minor capacity of expression than one that has already developed the higher forms. This takes us to another simple and logical fact. There are many of them scattered throughout the body of the “Life” on different levels of development. This little blue sphere is a being that lives and breathes. As everything that exists, it‟s part of the perfect design of the creation project, and as well as you, it exists to fulfill a specific role in this huge web that connects everything that moves and is expressed. Hence the importance that you can understand more
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clearly the environment in which you're inserted, to act in greater harmony with all life existing in it. The life of the Biomatrix is your life. You are the Biomatrix. I believe we already have enough material; I‟ll open the meeting to questions. I‟m at your disposal. The first question was asked by Duranjaya: - Duranjaya: Well, about your view point in relation to the whole process, how can you have this vision? From where can you follow the birth of a universe? Do you have dominion over the whole process of creation? - E.C: Actually we exist consciously in a different environment which gives us the conditions to monitor your environment. In our place of existence, after a long period of research, we developed some theories and tools that have made us able to enter and leave your universe, or “Life”. In the very beginning, we were just looking for a way of trying to understand what was around us, the meaning of existence. The
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first step that actually led us to develop the ideas was to understand that there is intelligent movement everywhere. Everything follows a carefully planned script created by an unachievable intelligence form, the Architect. We started studying these cosmic structures and as our technology has evolved, it became possible to access the intelligences contained in the analyzed structures. Regarding our terms of dominion over creation, our mental evolution has given us a level of understanding that provided us to have a broader and comprehensive consciousness. Along with that came the responsibility to act inside that environment and interact with other minds, like yours. Manipulate the energies that form the elements is possible when you are mature enough for that. But the energy itself, which created your universe and all others, the force that binds every instant each molecule of our bodies regardless of how they are, it's still the great mystery. - Duranjaya: Regarding your statement about all elements has a consciousness to recognize themselves as unique beings, what we should understand as consciousness?
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- E.C: Every life form really exists; each being that brings in itself a universe and is part of another universe is mentally connected with the creator center, which could be simply called "Unique Consciousness". A being living organically, depending on his constitution, has organs and devices that allow his interaction with other beings and with the entire universe that surrounds him. Every being, while experiencing his biological existence, retains in his body a part of "Unique Consciousness" and starts to act like a separate and independent consciousness apart from the wholeness. This is the feature that makes possible, in the grand scheme of creation, keep a particular characteristic of an element from energies that have been specialized. The consciousnesses are temporaries while animates beings in the various biological dimensions of space-time, though no doubt, its original nature is timeless. This is a theme that would give a specific job just for it. We can talk more about it during the interviews, but thoroughly discuss this topic is not part of our principal goal. We must try
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to understand initially the being in itself and just later dip into his mind. - Hans: The fact that there are more planets like ours leads me to believe that we aren‟t really alone. This is a major issue that has always caused huge discussion in our society. Personally I have always believed in the existence of a great diversity of life in the universe. There are billions of stars, so how could we be alone? Your presence here is the definitive proof. So despite the differences, have you stated that there are many places like the Earth? - E.C: Yes. As I said, all the elements are part of something bigger, or smaller. Everything follows a perfect structural pattern. The structure where Biomatrix is located follows a pattern, as well as the different parts in your human body. There are many other Biomatrices composing the structures that form the tissue, from those that are still forming until those already in the process of dissipation. I think your biggest question is about the life forms contained in each of these blue spheres. Remember the architecture.
but always following the project. From the moment when the development of human life starts. The diversity of mind is a natural feature and is part of the possibilities of development in all beings.com – i Cavalcanti They are exactly like those you find on Earth. . the final configuration will depend on how the humanity will relate to everything else. with some variations according to its settings. Some develop a mindset for peaceful exchange of resources with the environment. Know that “Life” has natural defense mechanisms in case of risk for its development or some important element to its survival. why it doesn‟t 118 . while others become aggressive to the point of self-destruct. and don't survive.João: You mentioned that "Life" has defense mechanisms against any risk to its health. Some civilizations develop technologies not harmful to the Biomatrix‟s body while others spend much time to understand. The big challenge is integration. Has our planet a similar mechanism? If yes.interviewwithgods. There are millions of civilizations in different levels of development and mindset.
Your Biomatrix along its development has already used this type of resource.C: Great question. Your solar system has a region that you call Asteroid Belt. depending on the type of structure requiring a change or correction. It's clear that such action is costly. the collision of an asteroid is used to restructure a specific region. The energy released by impact modifies chemically the site removing unwanted elements and redoing all the mineral structures. There are other agents that can be used. All the elements contained in that "Life" is part of this own life as well as all cells and all organs of a man composes his being in the same way. The "Life" has a biological defense system that operates throughout its body.interviewwithgods. Stars collide and even entire galaxies merge to repair or build new tissues. The asteroids are for your solar system like repair agents of its structural elements. including the Biomatrix. In the case of a Biomatrix. 119 . Besides this site you can also find this type of element in distinct orbits throughout the cell body (solar system).com – i Cavalcanti defend the planet from human actions that cause imbalance to environment? .E.
of the 120 . that is always striving for balance without affecting human development. and it‟s very unlikely.com – i Cavalcanti resulting in the elimination of living parts. It's like a man who is in the growth phase. So this is a type of resource that can alter the physical and mental balance of the Biomatrix. Regarding the use of these defense resources against human behavior in the environment where he lives. How could the body of this man defend from himself? The destruction of these cells would cause the death of the man. the most sensitive like plants and animals.interviewwithgods. Hence the risk that I quoted. causing problems in his behavior. having free acting throughout its body. that is ultimately its own development. There is no way of a Biomatrix defends from itself. A collision of a repairer asteroid in a planetary body with human life would mean the destruction of one of its most noble resource. and for some reason his brain cells begin to develop incorrectly. In the case of Biomatrix. the man can cause damage to its structure. It is part of the project and it's how should be. it's as said. The emergence of human being with a free will is natural and essential to global development.
. To sustain life in itself. Its outer surface must be stable and with an adequate shape to the emergence of life. some are limited and some can be reconstructed or replaced. Like a human body. From its beating heart formed by a piece of the solar core.interviewwithgods. the Biomatrix must have a body ready for all sorts of living beings. sustaining all liquids and solids.com – i Cavalcanti Biomatrix lose the ability to perform its basic purpose or even die.E. I turn once more to the true miracle of nature. the Biomatrix feeds the upper layers of its planetary body. what are its limits? Can we exhaust these resources causing our extinction? . through its fusion. the nature itself! It‟s 121 .João: Regarding the natural resources. there are several innate resources. which somehow is a projection of the planetary body.C: You call natural resources some parts that form the Biomatrix‟s body. Within the membrane that separates it from the cellular space all filters and gases must be balanced in exact proportion.
automatically activates an entire apparatus. How wonderful are the designed bodies! A man. Why would it be different with the planetary body. but like in human beings.C: What do you call comets are elements responsible for the transport and activation of specific 122 . starting the regeneration of tissue and production of more blood cells to compensate the loss. How did it affect our planet? How did you make appear this new comet? . this element rebuilds itself.com – i Cavalcanti a project flawlessly performed. which immediately creates a blockade. depending on the extent of the injury.Jacques: And what about the collision with a comet? It seems that has already happened here on Earth. .interviewwithgods. You have to understand that extinction of the human race means the stagnancy of Biomatrix and the interruption of life process for a long time. this being that originated the man's body from itself? Every moment. even its resources won't be able to remedy the problem. who has his body pierced and bleeding.E.
which initiate the formation of the different elements also creates this type of element that you call comet. and it was inserted into your system to act temporarily and to be harmless to all other existing elements. possess basic molecules in its bodies. When a comet collides with a planet. Whenever that occurs means that the element. Regarding the signal I sent to you. The impact besides reconfiguring the surface of the planet. It‟s an element artificially created by us.interviewwithgods. components with specific genetic information necessary for the formation of biological life. as your Biomatrix. It was created following the genetic code of an original element. also releases in its body these components that acts directly on basic molecules. what happens is comparable to a natural insemination. When a “Life” is born.com – i Cavalcanti life forms. which can be a Biomatrix or any other. The elements of “Life”. the specialized energies. The comets bring in its structure. activating them and giving rise to different forms of life. It will disintegrate so leave your solar system 123 . something like stem cells of a human body. will experience a change in the configuration of its physical and mental. it‟s not an element from the “Life” where you inhabit.
Every astronomical event elevates the thoughts and opens the mental channels for reception of new knowledge.Mudiwa: So. It was necessary to use this kind of resource to give credibility to our work at its harder moment. there isn't one without the other. Physically in the body of man. the semen that will be produced on his reproductive apparel was actually activated by another organ located elsewhere in his body. the first contact. it is activated by hormonal glands. which in turn is activated by the human biological clock. When a man becomes a teenager and begins to produce semen.interviewwithgods. And it's also a gift to those who still find time in their complex daily routines to look up the sky.C: What is space? Human life is the life of Biomatrix.E. The man in the configuration that you know can only exist inside its body. can I accept as truth that human life may have come from space? . .com – i Cavalcanti without causing any alteration in the intercellular medium. If we 124 . which come into operation following the programming of another organ.
and the integration will allow an insight together. Being free. I'll answer this question and then we'll finish for today. the man can go anywhere where his limits can reach. What is the comet to the Biomatrix but another element of the body of “Life”? It's all part of same thing. and so on. Mars or even to nearest star will never enable the man to reach the full view of the environment where he is inserted.C: Well.E. Go to the Moon. the same life. All the elements are interdependent. the man will allow to the Biomatrix integrate itself more directly with other system elements. 125 . it's not different from what happens with the Biomatrix.interviewwithgods. Catherine: So what about the fact that our civilization has traveled to space? We have gone to the Moon and we'll probably go to the Mars very soon.com – i Cavalcanti think simply. we're going out of the main theme. Only by the local integration with the Biomatrix this enlightenment will be achieved. How do you analyze this issue? . With this natural knowledge.
it will experience new sensations. would we be able to describe what a man is physically? We could barely understand the circulatory system. and at the brief moment of life out of its natural environment. but always in an insignificant and limited way. it would not be possible for this red cell having the exact idea of what a man is. and if we could travel through his body in a red cell. You can even reproduce in these places your terrestrial environment. If we didn't know what a man is. You can go to the moon or Mars. Even so. but you‟ll never survive for a long time in their planetary bodies.interviewwithgods. since you're not part of them in a direct way. They are different dimensions of existence. The architecture is perfect and shows itself in a simple way for who seek to understand it through observation of its structures. When the red cell breaks up the walls of the artery crossing all layers of tissue until reaches the surface of the body. without impossible displacements.com – i Cavalcanti A blood cell travels a human body through his circulatory system. I don't see how this can really help mankind to 126 . The answers can't be found in inaccessible places. its closed circuit will be left behind.
everybody were involved in a very familiar atmosphere. simple as that. In the United States among the people who followed the interview. See you on next meeting. There were moments when the personal curiosity overcame the corporate interests. the Biomatrix. The thought should not to be looking elsewhere for the case of depletion of natural resources of your planet. amid all that was spoken. The death of a Biomatrix also means the death of all forms of existence contained in it. as they had become children again. in this case a brief history of the universe. it was possible to individually notice a twinkle in their eyes.interviewwithgods. So EC ended his first interview.Director of NSA: We have quickly analyzed the content of the conversation and the president thinks by 127 . as if they were faced with an old relative. listening attentively a wonderful story. the director spoke to Paul: .com – i Cavalcanti achieve a major harmony with their home. At the end. During the conversation.
Director of NSA: Paul.interviewwithgods. but for now let‟s keep the same approach. . it was just a personal moment. . but it should occur gradually and individually. it was a kind of information that could change the way of people understands the life and all other things. It won‟t happen again.Paul: Excuse me sir. Personally I see great possibilities for human development in understanding on what was said. We need to wait for the other interviews. we must defend the interests of our country and our species. . In the mind of the friends became clear that although they had not had time to analyze everything that was said. Let us leave the rest to the philosophers. they apparently have no intention of causing any kind of shock in our social order.com – i Cavalcanti the text content. They began to understand the importance 128 .Paul: Right.
interviewwithgods." 129 .com – i Cavalcanti of the work and the sentence "start with few to reach many.
rereading and analyzing the previous interview. The man usually classifies life forms in simple or complex. So could you say that a plant is a simple life form and a planet is a complex form? What would be for you the more complex forms. after twenty-four hours reading.E. EC entered the chat room and began the meeting: . yesterday we talked about the creation. which operates in different dimensions.C: Friends. the man or the planet. the solar system or a galaxy. Every birth brings to life a new being. and certainly among all life that you can perceive in your environment. you're the most complex life form ever found and studied. all were gathered again to continue the work. a star or an atom? The energy that makes possible the expression of life in all these body structures. as I prefer. or birth.com – i Cavalcanti 7 – Second Interview .Life The next day. an ant or a tree.interviewwithgods. is exactly the same. The power that makes Biomatrix go its way through intercellular 130 . As it was agreed.
All these consciousnesses are connected to the “Life” consciousness. which express itself through all the bodies that make up the vast universe's manifestation of the Great Architect. like all other bodies forming the “Life”. it's the energy filling every space with its harmonics notes of creation.interviewwithgods. Any element that man is able to perceive. which manifests itself and recognizes itself in its dimension of “Lives”. It‟s the same power that unites all the elements of “Life” during its long journey of growth. if we consider in a systemic view. are endless. Such links. has a temporal consciousness that manifests itself independently and it‟s linked to cellular (solar) consciousness. The cellular consciousness also manifests itself independently and it‟s linked to the tissue consciousness formed by the galaxy. I say with all my being that everything that can be seen or perceived. to merge. acting as a beautiful cosmic symphony. The Biomatrix.com – i Cavalcanti space around the solar core is the same that joins different atoms which form its body and the bodies of all beings who compose it. to see. it's life in movement. to freeze or to 131 . The existence of this energy is innate to all forms of consciousness.
com – i Cavalcanti manipulate is life and movement. which transport the substrate that feeds the whole structure. and also monitor and predict their routes when they are inside the Solar Cell. There is nothing totally stopped. to be transformed into energy to feed all structures of animal body.interviewwithgods. among them. There is no luck or chance in these systems. It‟s like a respiratory system that receives and sends oxygen through the blood. the repair elements and the elements that carry within them the seeds of life. It‟s like a tree. You have total capacity of discernment to begin to perceive this. The universe works on a completely organized way. which has all its molecules arranged and its fluids. It‟s a matter of observation that not depends on any special tools. I would like to clarify that all these elements are organized and have a completely harmonic behavior. the Biomatrix. Inertia is a human concept and doesn't exist in the real universe. I also spoke a little bit about the solar cell and its components. With your current technology you can observe the movement of some of these objects. All these bodies are where they 132 .
especially in biology.com – i Cavalcanti should be. In the human context. we observed that for you. it‟s considered as a life form. the cell should 133 . You're looking for signs of life in space. throughout its development. every being that has a cellular characteristic. The collisions occur as a natural process of repair or renovation. the term "to exist" has acquired the same meaning of "to live". other planets and galaxies without knowing that in fact. Internally. To your science. It seems to have turned into a kind of psychological tool used to compare everything around you. being composed by a membrane that encloses the body to separate its inner substance of the external environment. You divide the world that you can perceive into living beings or not living. Life is a very present word in the mind of every human being.interviewwithgods. The minerals in general and all its derivatives are viewed as inanimate objects without organic life. All things your scientists have found and have classified as biological life forms became to be considered as "living beings". you are seeking life in something that is already alive.
interviewwithgods. Does a 134 .com – i Cavalcanti exchange elements with the external environment through some chemical processes and have the ability to reproduce itself. how many cells are created and destroyed? So for a human cell. Each of you has a body made up of millions of cells. If we look deeply into human being we can have some interesting insights about what is considered life. Throughout the lifetime of man. nerves. muscle. Let's review the implications of human interpretation about the word "life" and its relationship to other words like "death" and "consciousness". organs. etc. what would mean to live? Would this cell could perceive its time-space existence or would it perceive the time scale of the organ where it is inserted? Or even the time scale of man who it belong to? Please don't even consider the possibility of the cell doesn't be able to perceive anything. As a living being. Each type of cell has specific functions such as formation of skeletal structure. it has sensitivity. If you get a microscopy and look inside your body you'll see different forms of cellular life which could be considered independent life forms.
and collectively as the heart itself that needs to maintain its basic function of pumping blood. but if you could step into the same dimensional level of it. which we could call cardiac consciousness. when the first cells were created according to the initial genetic code. where each cell performs its function ignoring what is the heart. Likewise. the heart cells of a 50 years old man bring with them all the information acquired from pre-existing cells of this organ since the formation of this being. There is no life or death for these cells. who in turn. acts as being in a completely different dimension. what really exists is a primitive consciousness which function is to maintain a certain characteristic and pass it on. in other words. That collective consciousness. but without has the awareness that it is formed by each cell individually.interviewwithgods. you would probably become crazy. A man knows he has a heart.com – i Cavalcanti cell that form the heart is aware of what a heart is and what is its purpose? What actually exists is a temporary collective consciousness. Have you 135 . a heart hardly will be aware of what is a man. he knows how it works and of what it's formed. works at different levels: individually.
If you could see a water molecule at the atomic level. it wouldn't be the water that you're used to seeing. Atoms are basically formed by even lower elements which have electric charges that are electrically balanced. because you could reach the conclusion that you actually don't exist in the way that you believe. It would be the vision of an electric wave varying according to the motion of atoms and electrons on a complex network of exchange of energies. it can become a dangerous journey. animal. You need only use all available resources and just exist. each bone and each muscle. Everything is movement and organization. separately and as a whole.interviewwithgods. vegetable and mineral. In your current science is taught that each cell consists of molecules which in turn are made up of atoms. So when 136 . It's all a matter of perspective. Everything is alive. A man is composed by each cell. So if you get into the atomic level. The Biomatrix is composed by each man. each organ.com – i Cavalcanti thought about being aware of each cardiac muscle contraction? Be aware of each cell replacement? Your temporary consciousness doesn't need to see these movements because it operates globally.
for the time-space dimension of the man 137 . Imagine this man on the surface of an electron of this atom in the same proportion of a man for planetary surface. contemplating this universe for a period that we could call "atomic months". a red sun surrounded by planets that appear in midst of great storms and light rays.com – i Cavalcanti you talk about matter. I would like to invite you to another journey.interviewwithgods. about what kind of bodies we are talking about? A being existing in a dimensional level similar to what you call atomic level. and stays there in this atomic state. one day you will discover. could passes by inside you like a ghost without you noticing it. Let's imagine hypothetically that a man can carry his consciousness to the same dimension of a carbon atom inside his own body. Well. that two bodies can't occupy the same space in the universe. No problem. I won‟t talk about all he would see there. now it's time to return to the source dimension. For a moment. surely both of you. this human consciousness forgets where he came from and the body that he had to express himself. because the brain is ordering something. What a magnificent sight! Millions of stars in a cloudy sky and at the center.
which before his mind simply ignored. So how can you say that something has no life? For your science when a biological being dies. The man. organization. is changing. Actually I say there is nothing you know or not. interprets and considers as alive all elements in his existential field which can be perceived by his sense organs and the tools developed to assist him. If we saw earlier that for an atom or cell the death doesn't exist.interviewwithgods. increasing or decreasing. certainly he won't be able to allow the manifestation of his temporary consciousness. it was enough time for his consciousness meditate and enjoy all the beauty and perfection of that micro-universe.com – i Cavalcanti only a few seconds have elapsed. A rock is constantly changing. Everything you can see or not in your universe is in motion. Life is movement. but can we say that he is fully dead? Death is another very dangerous word invented by you. why it would exist for humans? We 138 . through what I call his physical consciousness. Life isn't an appropriate word to portray this vision. creation and destruction. that isn't alive in the real sense of this word. The correct word is process.
born on other continent and he. temporarily manifesting independently with the illusion of being separated from the wholeness.interviewwithgods. are actually exactly the same thing. You seem to be stagnant in a dimensional gap that emerged when you lost your ability to acquire a real link with other living beings of your same dimension. So for the existence of Biomatrix how many men. I don't mean that you must have the same level of consciousness of a human cell. I mean they are actually the same life. the Hans who was born and lives in the Netherlands can't imagine that Mudiwa. and you see yourselves as truly independent beings. But somehow at some point the man lost the opportunity of seeing the world where he lives more objectively. The major goal of your humanity will be acquire the awareness of what 139 .com – i Cavalcanti could make hypothetically another comparison. because it received a lineup of very limited existence. plants and animals have already born and died? The big difference in this comparison is that you don't have the collective consciousness of the cell. That man is related to the earth in a similar way than the cell is related to the man. I don't mean they are the same thing because they are all human beings. In general.
interviewwithgods. it will be the first step to begin your journey by the different levels of awareness that you can achieve. You are all accustomed to accept as fundamental truth only the things that you can be perceived directly. she really could see that life and death are just two words.Hans: So the whole universe is an intelligent living being? 140 . which spent some months in a carbon‟s electron. Why do you see yourselves as separated beings? Why is it that whenever you look up to the sky. . From there. If you can reinsert yourselves into your nature. the Earth and all stars as separated objects in a system with no beginning and no ending? Let's return now to the consciousness that I described above. you see the Moon.com – i Cavalcanti you really are. All of you were projected for it. we can start the questions now. Thankfully! Please. Did that consciousness could see something so different than you can see from where you are? Perhaps the main difference is that she knew what was beyond that carbon. at least in the local context of your terrestrial universe.
C: The "Life".C: The feeling of isolation in relation to other species to some extent is normal in human development. It‟s what exists everywhere. . I think we all agree with your assertion. Consider a mountain filled with trees. Is there no intelligence in all this? Does all this is there by chance? I think the right word to use here would be perfection.com – i Cavalcanti .interviewwithgods.Hans: Of course.E. a whirlwind of movement and transformation that brings in it the primary energy and the cradle for expression of all temporary consciousnesses that form this complex being. it's a wonderful expression of life. All degradation that we cause to ourselves and to our planet comes from we don't consider ourselves linked to it. as its name suggests. Once your species acquired a more developed cerebral apparatus. rivers. snow caves. Intelligence is another word created by man to classify in a pejorative way what he analyses but has no deep understanding. especially when you 141 .E. .
while others took longer. When this behavior can be treated in time.com – i Cavalcanti have began to get more time thinking and reasoning rather than spend it looking for food. There were civilizations that have gone through this process quickly and soon have been reinstated to the environment.Duranjaya: If the same principle of energy that animates our planet is also present in every living 142 . Some unfortunately didn't survive. . since this moment. you have walked away from other beings which carry within them a mental rigid programming relative to the behavior that they have to express for their own survival and for their participation in the organic processes of Biomatrix.interviewwithgods. The initial separation is crucial for men in order to develop all their possibilities and capabilities that aren‟t common to other species. The use of this superiority to irresponsibly exploit these resources is a serious problem that can cause irreparable damage. there still hope. It's necessary to the Biomatrix that man can develop all his aptitudes. The use of your superior reasoning skills for provide yourselves with all nature's available resources is a normal behavior.
but there are always those that last longer and 143 . so becoming a potentially destructive agent. which is essential to the development of Biomatrix. We can't consider this as an imbalance of the energy that allows the existence of all beings.C: The Human nature. Some insects are born and die devoured even before they can leave their colonies. but an innate characteristic. When a human body undergoes some kind of imbalance and develops some disease. Some plants are born and die without bearing fruits.E. can we say it's a problem of its energetic vital principle? Don't cling to the need of have to be mathematically perfect in relation to your local universe. why are we allowed to take actions that cause destruction into this being? Doesn‟t should it be a balance in the distribution of this energy? . Your cells have an average lifetime. Some men develop themselves abnormally and die very young while others become elder.com – i Cavalcanti being and every man as a unique being. has this feature of freedom of action and sense of independence. Some men are born and die without seeing daylight or hear the sound of birds.interviewwithgods.
Mudiwa: Every living thing carries within itself a genetic code with all the features that it will develop throughout its life.interviewwithgods. the manipulation of genetic code represents some kind of violation to the laws of nature? 144 . When I speak of perfection I'm not referring to the constitution and functioning of different elements individually. Biomatrices. For each man who dies more children are born. I hope that knowledge can help you to live more fully. In your view. Galactic Tissues and "Lives". As seen above. For each cell destroyed more cells are created. the process never stops. For men. . by remaking itself. correcting itself and destroying itself infinitely.com – i Cavalcanti those that break early. that is. life and death are just two words. and carry with them the entire solar cell. an element is only a part of the whole. Stars may explode and all near planets are consumed by its mass. at all levels. The perfection is the architecture that spontaneously creates all these life forms. I already said that there are Biomatrices that dissolve themselves before completing their development.
it that creates the field for actuation of a temporary consciousness that will fill the body. We have already found it ready for use.com – i Cavalcanti . The man's knowledge about the existence of this set of features and the possibility of some manipulation shows that all elements work seamlessly. we must assume that the origin of this project is unique. This knowledge has brought to us the risk of interfering inappropriately in this process and brought also the responsibility to actively participate in it. etc. every plant and every animal has a structural encoding very similar. But as the whole project is perfect. If every living being. the primordial energy that makes the code able to be executed. you 145 . Each being that exist and have a temporal consciousness brings within him a set of initial characteristics which serve as the basis for his development through the different specialized energies.C: You said it very well. during our development we acquire the ability to handle the basis of life. planetary. As I said earlier. This is a feature that covers all the bodies. human. One day you‟ll see that besides identify and change the characteristics of this code.interviewwithgods. it can't be achieved.E. differing only in small parts.
and even create new codes for other temporary structures. The current human knowledge in genetics will give you the resources to solve specific problems and improve the life‟s quality of your people in some aspects. The genetic alteration of components of the Biomatrix. mainly from vegetable layer can indeed cause an imbalance on the environment. I think your question is also about the processes for cloning human beings.com – i Cavalcanti can add information that initially doesn't exist.Jacques: The human life has spread across the planet. but it was initially due to other reasons. The vital energy and the consciousness that will act inside a new being are completely out of your control. . We'll talk about this subject in the interview devoted to development. When a man clones a life form he gives birth to another similar being that will follow the same code of characteristics that originated the first. Cloning is just another distinct form of human asexual reproduction. the changes in the vegetal layer are a serious health problem. In your Biomatrix.interviewwithgods. Today we are more than six billions of people 146 .
plant or animals act according to their behavior on a scheduled way. etc.C: The Biomatrix is formed by millions of life forms of different kinds.E.interviewwithgods. It don‟t mean to say that these beings are devoid of reasoning ability.com – i Cavalcanti on its surface. but all they bring into its mental structure a set of instructions that are critical to maintaining the natural balance of the ecosystem. topography. This is a perfect system where the way of acting of all these beings is intertwined forming a giant behavioral network that takes care of the Biomatrix's body balance. 147 . The overcrowding is a factor to be considered for maintenance of natural resources? . through some resources such as food supply. be they mineral. climate. Each living specie acts through its individual and global behavior in order to maintain this natural balance. All these forms obey a control scheme that maintains the balance of its body. The devices to maintain this balance are triggered automatically according to the needs of the being. All these beings. life cycle.
being hunted and geographically limited by climate and natural obstacles. and the expansion of their kind starts to occur very quickly due to a deficit of deaths compared to births. What must be analyzed and understood is that to the extent the man learns and gets to know better the environment around him and its resources. than a man who 148 . since the first groups of humanoids also acts in an integrated way with the balance system. Repeating again. This fact marks the beginning of life in society and all learning inherent in it. his mentality regarding this should progress. the men begins the separation journey of this rigid control. With the mental development which leads them to learn to manipulate the natural resources to their own advantage. hunting. all these events are part of the natural process of their development. Usually at this point is common occurs growth explosions at different locations where the human life arises.interviewwithgods. A man who lives in a rudimentary society without any analysis tools certainly will act more brutal in relation to other life forms that surround him.com – i Cavalcanti The emergence of the human species at its beginning doesn't alter this arrangement.
food and treasures. The point is. They continue interacting with the planet as if it were simply a bag full of gas. Throughout the interview it became increasingly clear in the minds of the friends that the knowledge which was being passed would be something to be read and understood by each man who was seeking for understanding on these mysterious and misunderstood processes. 149 . sometimes entire civilizations acquire knowledge and technologies and even so they keep having a grotesque behavior.interviewwithgods. being the man responsibility to understand and work collaboratively with this complex system. This work would not solve the immediate problems of our society. The population planning should be done in human civilizations from their understanding of the need for natural balance and their reintegration with the system that controls this balance. this wasn't the goal.com – i Cavalcanti lives in a modern society equipped with all technology that allows him to understand some natural processes essential to maintenance of the planetary health. This integration must occur differently from the original.
The information was always in the field of ideas and human behavior. Perhaps their hopes were based on the upcoming interviews. because the issues discussed so far didn't bring any scientific data. when the forum would be open to all. that life or process. E. is a real fact. 150 . to whom have been given the task of interpreting the interviews and produce a series of questions for the last meeting.C had not passed anything like this. These people had a difficult task because they were designated to extract data with the objective to keep their country in scientific and technological advantage. especially in the final meeting when they would have the opportunity to participate more actively. as the visitor EC said. regardless of any classification or ways of interpretation. EC ended the second meeting: .interviewwithgods.C: I would like you keep in your minds about this interview. It was not being a very easy task. So far.E.com – i Cavalcanti It was formed a committee in the presidential office with members of the NSA. Following his schedule.
It‟s a constant wonderfully indecipherable. visible or not. existing in all bodies and all seeds that still have not germinated. A seed of orange at first sight is just a small dry grain. people. This small grain brings within it a latent force ready to act and pull the trigger of creation through its perfect project of development recorded genetically in every atom of its structure. This same latent force is present in all things: gases. Take care everyone. plants. etc.com – i Cavalcanti it's an innate characteristic of all temporary consciousnesses which are on the different dimensional levels of existence. planets. Life is the movement provided by the primordial energy that fills any element. rocks. It has no beginning and no ending. see you on the next meeting.interviewwithgods. 151 .
is in the process of development. Today we'll talk about development. What was there before creation and what is going to 152 . here we were. All energy existent in every being. I say that development is the inevitable path that all life forms experience in fulfilling the most striking feature of the architecture that shapes the live universe: transformation. Let‟s start our third interview. facing a real contact with something bigger. These days would be remembered for a long time. shaping his contours. From an anomaly that was crossing the Internet through computers all over the globe. smarter and unexplainable. giving him existence and allowing the acting of his consciousness.Development The third day had come. a term used by your civilization to connote a change of state. creation and destruction are the extremes that limit this process. EC promptly began writing the third theme: E. a physical or behavioral change.interviewwithgods. In your human vision. growth or decline.com – i Cavalcanti 8 – Third Interview .C: Friends of One Planet.
a planet and so on. until a new seed can activate them again. when its roots will be weak and its whole body won't be able to circulate the sap of life.com – i Cavalcanti happen after the destruction is the great mystery that populates your collective unconscious. Through its seed. It‟s the great engine that allows the movement and specialization of primordial energy. It will produce a lot of fruits. when it will be able to fruitful and generate new seeds with the same structure of the seed that had generated it. 153 . a man. it could become the example of an animal. But as I said. when it touches the ground then activates the primordial energy that will follow the genetic code.interviewwithgods. if we changed a few words. until some day. Let's go back to the orange‟s example. to grow and change until reach a breaking point. and it begins its development journey that will culminate with the plant reaching the peak. Its structure will be gradually destroyed and all elements will return to their home. the life's project is perfect and the living elements aren't loose parts that appear randomly. Is it hard to understand? The development is an inherent condition to all beings. In the example of the orange. or the design made for this being.
and through the resources provided by his body he can interact with the environment. This isn't a process in which the planetary consciousness simply subdivides itself for create other consciousnesses. the temporary consciousnesses which manifest themselves using these structures also follow a transformation process.com – i Cavalcanti Please consider all that was said above as the structural aspect of development which is present in everything. let's examine another no less important aspect. Take the example of a man who has a body and a temporary consciousness. which after its time of existence returns to its source. This temporary consciousness had emerged. This relationship must be well understood. the mental development of all beings. It's a more complex and wonderful process. as we have seen. The 154 . the planetary consciousness. from another consciousness. Now.interviewwithgods. This temporary identity enables man to mentally recognize himself as a unique being. As all created structures that follow an architectural pattern during its existence. which during the period of his existence will characterize him with a personal identity.
In the example of cardiac cells quoted in the previous interview. the cardiac consciousness keeps its structure and the body functions through its cellular projection. everything is happening at the same moment. the actions and the behavior of each sub-consciousness which lives in a lower dimension affects directly the behavior of the source consciousness. all the elements of "Life" have a real tuning. Because they are mentally connected. and depending on the development level of each part in this great network.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti planetary consciousness. the mental structure of consciousness is presented as a reflection of its original nature. I'm using the higher and lower terms to make easier your understanding. projects itself to form temporary consciousnesses in a lower dimension. while manifesting itself as a single entity in a higher dimension. In fact. 155 . it's subdivided and gives the false impression that each of these parts operates completely independently. I have no intention of classifying different dimensions. In the lower dimension. which is also temporary. it can be used for many marvelous functions.
creating the sub-consciousnesses that make up his mind and body. depending on his mental level can access a knowledge that has already been invented by other similar beings in different Biomatrices. 156 . which have designed everything that is contained therein. as well as to other elements. it's possible to a Biomatrix being connected to all other Biomatrices of "Life". So. It's a road where all knowledge is transmitted to those who can perceive and comprehend. A man.interviewwithgods. From our dimension of existence. the necessary information for trigger this process comes to any element by flowing through the “Life's” consciousness. It's the same process that allows to every man be mentally a reflection of his higher consciousness and simultaneously project himself inward. Let's consider now specifically the development of your civilization.com – i Cavalcanti where each cell operates independently to maintain its genetic characteristics allowing so the formation of the heart body. reaching all the elements and granting them access to all necessary information. To the extent that each element moves towards in its development.
which provide the initial geological and climatic conditions necessary for their survival. from the specialization of primordial energy that acts on the new genetic code of species. the Biomatrix has already developed life forms capable of acting as hosts for this new genetic 157 . because man is an extension of this planet. through its interconnected network of temporary consciousnesses. their emergence takes place at specific locations. Their emergence occurs spontaneously following the normal cycle. The emergence of the human species on a planet occurs naturally. It‟s a gradual process of physical and mental development.com – i Cavalcanti we are following the cycle of transformations of your Biomatrix using the technologies that we developed. from the moment when the biological clock of the Biomatrix is activated. At this point. So. The Human life emerges on a scheduled manner at these sites.interviewwithgods. All resources of the "Life" and Solar Cell will be used to provide the necessary support. Some mental signals are sent from other Biomatrices already developed. In reality he is the planet itself. transmitting the necessary codes for implementing this new type of sub-element. created and specialized to operate on its body.
So. the man. During the time that we were tracking your development we noticed that some specific facts have created degrading behavioral patterns. through a long journey that will culminate in his voluntary reintegration with the Biomatrix. to interfere in the development of your civilization. As I said before. I'm here in response to the mental call of planetary consciousness to provide information in order to facilitate the human understanding about themselves and the universe in which they're inserted.com – i Cavalcanti code that will create human beings. over the surface of its body will begin the journey of one of its most special resources. and it will be important for its vision and comprehension about this living universe that is around it. which have been steady since then. analyze and understand everything around him. pushing the human mind to have some types of destructive behaviors. isn‟t my intention with that work. 158 .interviewwithgods. or with himself. This knowledge will act differently in each temporary consciousness according to its mental level. who will bring in his genetic code the freedom to observe.
In short. Usually. this is a necessary survival characteristic in a wild environment where the primitive man has only a small physical force and a developing brain. Even with all these animal instincts quite active. such as veneration. the ferocity is an essential feature at start of their journey.com – i Cavalcanti The man‟s feature that I would like to examine is the violence against oneself and against all other life forms. endowed with a 159 . which directs them to the beginning of new phases in their development. principally to get food and to defend from other species. and among these instincts. it's very common to find in behavior of primitive peoples a great respect for nature elements that surround them.interviewwithgods. which is a natural feeling that occurs before of true understanding. The existence of primitive animal instincts is a normal part of human nature. this instinct for violence should decrease proportionally to the emergence of a mental superiority feeling over the other species. To the extent that these beings learn to observe the environment and become able to develop tools that help them in their daily activities. the human civilization begins to walk towards the reintegration from the time when men.
It's sure to consider that other reasons such as territorial disputes and reproduction also motivated tribal clashes. it‟s possible to reach this stage smoothly and quickly. When the sum of all human interests is focused in search of knowledge to the collective growth.interviewwithgods. This kind of behavior isn‟t natural. which nowadays launches a devastating attack against other nation motivated only by commercial or philosophical issues.com – i Cavalcanti more developed brains become able to observe and analyze these natural elements of worship to turn them later into objects of research. however it‟s expected that along time this 160 . What I'm trying to explain is that violence and conflict is a human characteristic present since its creation. Let us make a comparison. but these conflicts always have revolved around obtaining better conditions for survival and perpetuation of the species. It's very important to understand the meaning of violence that I'm dealing with. especially when it continues to occur thousands of years after these tribes no longer exist. A primitive tribe that would conflict with another in a dispute for food is a violence form completely different from a country.
From this period it began to emerge artisans.interviewwithgods. So. people with enough time to develop all forms of human expression. the man started to spend more time with his group. the goods were exchanged between people in a community or between neighboring communities that had different resource types according to their crops and animals available. not all people worked anymore on cultivating or in the handling of animals. the future scientists. This was also a natural stage of their development. it made arise a behavior that changed their destiny forever. from the need of population to have available some resources to sustain its growth. artists.com – i Cavalcanti kind of behavior can be sublimated and gradually be transformed into integration. When your civilization began to learn how to domesticate animals and how to manipulate the seeds and cultivate them in an organized way. coupled with the emergence 161 . Without having to spend most of the day in search for food. Initially. the mortality rate decreased fast and the small tribes began to expand and become large people concentrations. The trade appeared at same time. like food and clothing. Unfortunately. I mean. With the population growth.
This movement influenced several strands such as builders. This actually occurred in the opposite direction of artistic and cultural development which followed initially a normal flow of evolution. For a few. artists and musicians.com – i Cavalcanti of trade and fueled by the very strong instincts of violence. instead it served as impetus to develop agricultural techniques from undue exploitation of natural resources and to build selfdestruct mechanisms. just blood and despair. What followed is well known by all of you: hunger.interviewwithgods. murder. imbalance and suffering. The rest of the population was enslaved and forced to work for almost nothing. The first to arrive delimited the parts of Biomatrix body and took them. an apparent wealth and for the most. with the creation of works of great value. it made start a behavioral transformation that affects all of you since then. The technological development that brought knowledge and tools capable to facilitate the survival and human integration. just enough to feed and 162 . but unfortunately with the passage of time it has been stifled by the growing of mercantile deadly behavior. painters. which still was strongly present in that society.
The indiscriminate cattle creation has generated overpopulations of some species and the extinction of many others. If you had any idea on how it 163 . which is killing its biodiversity and changing its external structural configuration.interviewwithgods. most of the vegetation layer of the planetary body was changed. To justify the provision of resources for food. they work voluntarily deluded by the consumer goods that are placed before their eyes. you learned to keep them confined and increased his population so scary. Imagine that you on behalf of your bellies and your viewing pleasure devastated entire populations of animals. like to form the mental body through their brains. the slaves were forced to work under violence. These beings must exist in a balanced manner in order to fulfill his functions. After that.com – i Cavalcanti survive. This slavery persists until now. changing their eating habits to accelerate his growth. How don't you see that? The Biomatrix body is formed by all beings that are its own extension. You kill yourselves and you are killing the Biomatrix to obtain that juicy steak. in the same way that someone offers a juicy steak to a dog. The only difference is that before. All this has created an imbalance. but today. The effects are many.
interviewwithgods. Everything on your planet is alive. because the most of you are still tied in a degrading mental state. your civilization has begun recently to realize the most direct effects of both time of insanity.com – i Cavalcanti affects mentally the Biomatrix. It‟s not my intention to judge your eating habits. What is disastrous is in the name of this noble and necessary act of feeding. oceans and atmosphere. you would think carefully before do it. Everything you eat is part of yourself. Through observation and study of its soil. There is nothing that you can use as food that doesn't have life. the cell and even "Life". to cause imbalance and affect temporary consciousnesses in all dimensions linked to Biomatrix. you still haven‟t been able to develop an integrated perception of the facts. even being aware of the need to curb this behavior. the Biomatrix body is your body. Most of the researches and the organs established to defend what you call environment still have as its basic 164 . I' m here bringing this information because. But it's just a minority. Amid all these problems. The act of eating to maintain the physical structure should be called selfeating. the effects of the misuse of the planet body are pretty clear.
Even so the corporate interests ever overlap the human interests. which if well used it will serve as one of the foundations for a new 165 . Our work will form a material. We can start with the questions. This will be our last theme.C: The process of awareness is slow and gradual. You think your planet is just something beautiful that is there almost by chance. I always felt that simply know and fight against our forms of degradation wasn't enough. just save a resource that is running out. something that somehow could develop life on its surface and now needs to be preserved so as not to lose the ability to continue supporting your existence through its natural resources.com – i Cavalcanti purpose. If there is some movement toward finding solutions by governments is due to detection and recognition of a real threat to us. -E. My main goal is show you that there is only one path to the true development. Personally. This path is called integration.João: The information we're getting are wonderful. . I think my friends share that feeling.interviewwithgods.
even well-intentioned. In the name of industrial development all these people are pretending to be really worried. treating this subject in a conflicted manner. In the current scenario. which should act as a unique life. the fact of people be aware of climate changes and problems in the atmosphere. starting by themselves.interviewwithgods. More vegetation areas are devastated and more rubbish is thrown into rivers and oceans. It's the old fight of the weak against the strong. among others. There is no chance to earth 166 . Everything became a matter of numbers. I see institutions established to combat environmental degradation. isn't enough to great majority become able to feel internally the situation and the urgent need for change something. fighting by numbers.com – i Cavalcanti kind of thinking about nature. more gases are released in the thin membrane that delimits the frail terrestrial body. where the result is ever the defeat of all. Imagine a living being attacked constantly all over his body and by his internal elements. The Governments are always in negotiating meetings. While they talk about planning to reduce pollutant emissions and create new regulations for environmental control.
I hope there's still time for that. because in fact they are merely a reflection of human ideas that had been 167 . All these types of organs such as associations. . started to act as its own entity capable of directly interfering in the thinking of millions.Hans: Is it possible that our leaders have the ability to change their way of thinking in time to reverse this process of destruction? I don't see a fertile ground for this kind of change spontaneously and quickly. Throughout history. courts and governments. Actually there's only one way to act more responsibly: through education and awareness.interviewwithgods. agencies. . among others.C: Let's look at this issue from a view point different than you are accustomed.E.com – i Cavalcanti defend herself. Her scream can be heard beyond the solar system. The behavior of these institutions can't be changed within them. It will depend on you. the men have developed rules of behavior and physical means to maintain and support these types of ideas.
Do they internally really 168 . for such institutions to redirect its purposes naturally. it was created for do that and never will have compatible goals with the work that we are developing. these people from the U.com – i Cavalcanti perpetuated and fed for centuries. creating a new society formed by more aware individuals. while there is still such a kind of thinking. But. Junior and all others have their personal lives.S. to keep them in the forefront of technology and to continue controlling the world's political agenda. This thought is the result of the idea of power fueled by millions over centuries of trade and ideological disputes throughout your planet. They are formed by men. individually. It's from its nature. Take as an example. These new humans will be able to change all these old conceptual structures inwardly. You must renew these old ideas by imposing a new way of understanding life. wives and children. a family. The Paul. As institution. agency that is monitoring our work. at any cost. Every man must become aware and change his way of seeing the world. its goals are clearly get as much information as possible.interviewwithgods. if we look at people who are part of that institution. we‟ll certainly find a different view.
I can see among them persons aware and concerned about the common problems of mankind. without exceptions.Duranjaya: Regarding the changes in planetary surface due to our needs. It's a matter of create an awareness able to introduce in men a mental continuum feeling that allows them to experience their natural features wherever they are and to anyone. is the factor that directly influences the unwarranted changes the corporeal and mental surface of Biomatrix. It's not just a matter of food habits but in fact it's a problem 169 .E. Everyone wants comfort and satisfaction for their closest people. regardless of race or country. .com – i Cavalcanti want to leave a degraded world full of conflict and starvation for their children? It‟s surely not. no kind of behavior should be imposed by force. how to deal with this situation with so many people to feed? .C: The feed. There is still hope.interviewwithgods. however. undoubtedly. That is not a matter of people being either more or less prepared to start a new era of thought. Humanity is one and its defects and virtues are everywhere.
It's not just a matter of power. If there are no buyers. everything goes to the trash. Your society has become accustomed to looking at their consumer goods and food as manufactured products. Understand that natural resources must be used with responsibility to be in equilibrium. but of an improper exploitation motivated by the money generated by consumption. living beings.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti of mentality. who have money. As I said. regardless of belonging to animal or plant kingdom. go to the meat section and show her a beautiful and colored package of ham or a piece of 170 . The food is produced for those who can pay. the hunger is still a reality for your civilization? The answer is very easy. which destroy the layer of original vegetation by replacing large green areas by a single culture causes damage similar to the improper creation of animals. The techniques used for agriculture. all food consumption actually represents the consumption of lives. Take a child to one of these establishments that sell groceries. Ask to yourselves why even with so many crops and cattle creations. all made in an unknown manner and brought to the cities to satisfy their eccentric appetite.
just try concentrating your energies on mutual understanding. But don't confuse the human's degrading state with food philosophies. the colors that make them recall the flavor. Do any of you ever stopped to think about it? My intention with this example is not to judge the lack of awareness of the child. especially for the man who is a very important resource. A picture of blood and death certainly wouldn't help the business philosophy of sales and profit. There is no direct link with the image of an animal dying and having his body slashed into parts before reach the shelves. The men should use the natural resources which are available in their habitat in a conscious and balanced way. This is a real fact. At the moment when you start to love 171 . The Biomatrix gladly cedes part of itself for feed its parts. Nurture your minds with new thoughts. Initially.com – i Cavalcanti salami. what really exists is the product‟s image. For a child and most adults. This behavior has been imposed on her. Since her birth she had no chance to feel this kind of real connection with nature. it's undoubtedly a painful and coward process. Ask her how we can get such a food so beautiful and tasty. It wouldn't be attractive. The way you do.interviewwithgods.
Duranjaya: On the capacity of your people to be following us since the creation of our planet at different times.com – i Cavalcanti yourselves. that is a subject very difficult to understand. understand and respect each other. we have begun a new quest for knowledge. Through much research and experimentation we finally got the technology that gave us the ability to exploit the living structures and understand more about its architecture.C: After we achieved a real integration with all beings that are part of the environment in which we exist. We 172 . depending on the dimension where each body and his temporary consciousness are inserted. Through the development and usage of equipments we found that the perception of time varies greatly. you'll naturally begin to respect all other life forms around you and you'll find fairer ways to utilize the available resources. During all this time there was any contact with other civilizations? Could you talk a little bit about that? . .E. our rising and the whole process of evolution of our species.interviewwithgods.
If we project ourselves outside. the time perception works in a reverse way. This type of trip requires a smaller amount of energy. At the end of its useful life we 173 . In the first kind. our perception of time in relation to these dimensions is much faster. until the day when we finally developed complex devices capable of exploiting the lower corporal dimensions. making it impossible to send our bodies to these places. Our perception of time is always slower in relation to lower dimensions. our body structures would grow old and die before we could return with the information obtained. we can send probes capable of working in the dimensional midst. In this type of projection. inside this dimension. We worked a long time striving to perfect this form of travel. through the living structures. In this kind of trip the amount of energy required to maintain the consciousness launch process is absurdly high. however. registering and recording all the information that we wish to study. We have two alternative processes for access these dimensions. These probes can stay active for years in your dimensional time.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti found that perception change occurs in both dimensional directions in reverse.
We know all your psychological and behavioral characteristics. Throughout the development time of your humanity. This type of trip even for our technology is very risky and it's only performed in very special cases. The dimensional difference in space-time may cause distortion fields in our psychic structures. We got control this process in a secure way only for very short duration travels.interviewwithgods. just like this journey I am doing to pass this knowledge. but we have never interfered directly in your natural process and whenever we need to contact 174 . Through the genetic code manipulation of living structures we created an element capable of transporting our minds to these dimensions. These five earthly days that I‟ll spend with you will represent actually just a few seconds to my body in my source dimension. we have always been close watching every step. This is a delicate process.com – i Cavalcanti send these devices back to our dimension to extract all information recorded. thousands of our probes have been working incessantly to observe your development. The other way to access the lower dimensions is the transportation of our temporary consciousnesses. Since the formation of your Biomatrix.
No kind of sudden change or imposed on the gallows brings lasting results. A fact to be understood is that the content of the contact itself doesn't mean a guarantee of an instant assimilation. always with the objective to monitor and influence the Biomatrix development in a positive way.interviewwithgods. The reaction to contact has always been directly connected to time and the mental level of those selected. The human mind takes a long time to transform knowledge into behavior. That never have been our goal and even if we wanted it wouldn't work. . Somehow the technological development has occurred in other places and that fact has affected us in different ways. First.com – i Cavalcanti you it was made so as not to cause any trauma or influence on your customs and habits. The passed information is assimilated gradually. the shame of 175 .Mudiwa: I live in a continent considered the cradle of humanity. ranging since mystification until the sense of threat experienced by our colleagues from the NSA. We have been in contact several times with different people at different times. or a break of the mental and social codes on contacted societies.
The humanity flourished 176 . Nevertheless we can analyze the facts described constructively. Why the technological development has not occurred in all parts evenly? .E. full of misery and violence. which is an integrated set of lives within planet's life. those who remained in their tribes saw a violation of their customs and traditions with the construction of new urban centers. this is an assertion based on a partial analysis.C: I understand your question and I think it's acceptable if viewed from the current human view point. but it denotes a separatist way of understanding. What exists is the human species.interviewwithgods. all created in an attempt to simulate the lifestyle propagated by the people more technically and commercially developed. Thereafter. Regarding the African continent be considered the cradle of humanity.com – i Cavalcanti enslavement of many people who were removed from their tribes and forced to work in the crops in order to provide the basis for the development of other peoples. For the Biomatrix. it doesn't exist in its body these people or those people.
Over the time. As I mentioned earlier. each group has grown and developed different behavior patterns in face to the challenges offered by the habitat where they were. they focused on creating self177 . It was a planetary scale process. as I said before. Later. according to local conditions.com – i Cavalcanti simultaneously in various regions of the Biomatrix. there was a mix of these characteristics generating new types of external constitution. The initial development occurred equally at all areas where the first human‟s families emerged. The different characteristic of body constitution of the people is related to the biological material available in each part used to implement the genetic code. Certainly the severe cold and food shortages forced the groups that lived in temperate regions to spend more time preparing and developing tools and necessary techniques for their survival.interviewwithgods. The normal path of development would be that insofar as these groups come together. they could initially exchange their experiences for establish a healthy coexistence later. But this is a factor that can be considered as natural. when these people started to get in touch. when these groups began to develop technologies to support their activities.
Entire peoples who were walking toward integration with Biomatrix's elements were decimated in the name of trade and philosophical expansion of some “developed” kingdoms. But only to humans. the noble mind of the rulers came to the conclusion that slavery was an atrocity that should not be committed to human anymore.com – i Cavalcanti destruction devices instead of creating tools to aid their integration with nature. After centuries of torture. Among all the weapons of selfdestruction. . and give up of the initial path they was following before being interrupted by that blind brutality. as you said. which has initiated an unprecedented era of cowardice and murder. the shot gun.interviewwithgods.Catherine: As a medical professional. Over this period your people have found themselves lost in a context where they weren't fit anymore. I would like to quote a particular type. So the unique solution found by them was drop in the seduction of trade's lifestyle to try to survive. was another group that was initially taken as labor resource. Your people. I have experienced all the advances of our science in recent 178 . the other species continued to suffer.
develop mentally. the initial focus given by mankind to all these forms of knowledge was to concentrate most of their efforts and resources on developing 179 . physics. the control that regulates the amount of individuals of a species? Are we interfering in the natural process and super-populating the planet? This may be one reason for this imbalance? . The fact that we can extend our life span in some way can hurt the natural control over living beings. The technological development of a civilization can't be the cause of any imbalance. This feature is part of your genetic code. etc. We have to analyze some aspects of this issue. Unfortunately. chemistry. It‟s a part of human nature. The scientific development on the human body‟s study started next to all other known forms of science.com – i Cavalcanti years.interviewwithgods.C. astronomy. We are increasingly equipped and prepared to deal with diseases that formerly killed many people.E: I'm glad with this question. Several of these pests were transformed into simple chronic diseases. create tools and improve them. including mathematics.
It was always a question of mentality. The result is that now. You never were concerned about the body of Biomatrix. When your science has reached a level capable of protecting human life with a good degree of efficiency. Tomorrow we are going to finish our cycle of four meetings with the theme of integration.interviewwithgods. but with your industrialization and ideological disputes. What I'm trying to explain is that all science should be used to obtain the necessary knowledge to elevate the mental level of all mankind simultaneously to the growth and development of society. the scene of misery and degradation was already present. The uncontrolled population growth is a real problem that only occurred because of man‟s lack of knowledge about himself. So I can't agree that advances in medicine had influenced the Biomatrix corporal imbalance. but not impossible. After the last 180 . the task of seeking balance became much more difficult. Your priority was always to the aesthetics and self-destruction.com – i Cavalcanti weapons and consumer goods. I'll close our encounter with this question.
despite the restricted number of questions. Now.. in order to get the maximum of information to the last meeting. The monitoring work followed regardless of their inner feeling. which was kept in a particular way. there was left only one interview. regarding the harsh words directed to the agency in opposition to the hope declared in each human being. It's true that after this crazy journey they would have to find some way to meet personally. the third meeting brought an individual reflection on each agent. It seems that each made question could complement the doubts of all. The friends were absorbing frantically all received information and the dynamics of interviews. individually. See you tomorrow.interviewwithgods. 181 .com – i Cavalcanti interview I'll pass you some instructions on how to organize all these incoming information. In the U. Their work would be collect all the information and summarize it in some questions.S.
the interviews. which was being passed as never before. All friends were experiencing a feeling of fullness. the first conversation. but they certainly would have to see and review everything to have a better understanding of this knowledge. a moment of reality amid the troubled world in which they were accustomed to live and follow their daily routines. They were already convinced about the importance of what was happening. everything was happening very quickly. the Millennium comet. beginning with the mysterious message and followed by the first contact. the NSA phone call. It seems that when the interviews started all they were born for a new way to experience life. and finally. EC entered the chat room and began the last stage of the proposed work: 182 .interviewwithgods. and in fact.com – i Cavalcanti 9 – Fourth Interview .Integration The last interview was just about to begin. Exactly at 23:00 GMT.
these consciousnesses have found a way to get together. All human psychological paraphernalia was left aside for simple pleasure of recognizing themselves as equals. this technological resource attained by humanity.C: One Planet. Your minds were always in tune.interviewwithgods. 183 . and they used this channel as a tool for exchanging ideas and thoughts. This binding was able to make you closer. despite all the difficulties created by you throughout your history. problems and especially ideas. despite the great physical distance that separated your bodies. the existence of an available channel ready to be used in a different way. but even so. hopes and a desire to build a new world. It's time to you start to know each other as men who share expectations. men and women full of dreams. Through the Internet. Thanks for you have met each other. traditions and customs. you were taken to know each other thanks to your mental spontaneous connection with the Biomatrix.E. above all else. this group of people apparently as so different as their origins.com – i Cavalcanti . This was an initial step able to show to entire society.
184 . All processes triggered in the formation of a Biomatrix occur in a synchronized manner.com – i Cavalcanti so providing this qualified channel to transmit that knowledge. In this last interview we'll talk about integration. Of course all elements and sub-elements generated since the initial creation‟s process has a pattern of behavior integrated. The creation of different types of elements which form its physical and mental structure follows strictly its genetic code. What is the significance of this issue for you? What does integrate things? For you in relation to your nature.interviewwithgods. the creation is a complex process that follows a carefully prepared script. which aims to form a body capable of allowing the temporary manifestation of the reflection of a consciousness that specialized itself and projected itself. The complex system that controls the balance of the different elements of its body acts in a completely integrated. what should be achieving integration? Is it simply living in harmony with your brothers without causing damage to nature and other life forms? Would be only a matter of behavior change? As I said earlier.
and others. pollinating these plants in order to maintain a balance in the population of their species. So. it works quite well integrated as in the example of the different kingdoms of your Biomatrix. they complement and act in order to keep the body available for his temporal consciousness. digestive. As the man who through his organic systems such as respiratory.com – i Cavalcanti For example. So. the vegetal and animal kingdoms complement each other in a planned and perfect manner. where it enters the human reintegration problem on this context? If the whole process is perfect in all its levels.interviewwithgods. Each chemical process existing in your body. which are usually insects and birds. which means creating new atoms from the primary energy specialized according to the genetic code. These animals act in a perfect manner. these plants can overcome their limitation of displacement and reproduction. Does anyone might think that is it something casual? The Biomatrix is a being that. like humans. circulatory. Several species of plants and trees depend on the actions of an external element. have a complex organic system fully integrated. 185 . something similar occurs with your planet.
com – i Cavalcanti why the human species behave away from this naturally perfect system? I think the most spontaneous response to this question would be simply to say that humanity has deviated from their nature. This reflection acts independently adding impressions and experiences to his individualized consciousness. It's actually the natural mechanism that allows each individual to express himself through his temporary consciousness. The human civilization was born as more one component of this complex interconnected system of the planetary body. but due to their mental nature.interviewwithgods. These new information. will be sent back to his 186 . It's not a particularity of your planet. but that doesn't explain everything and it would be incomplete. that is actually a reflection of a greater consciousness. This characteristic of development occurs in different beings from a “Life”. very important for the decentralized nervous organ of the Biomatrix. they began a separation journey required for the improvement of their capacity for self-recognition. as they followed the normal path of their development. which are initially collected and stored in the nervous organ. as we have seen.
The Architect has designed and projected itself into a selfevolving system. Pay attention my friends. located at the space-time dimension immediately above.interviewwithgods. any new information added to the higher consciousness will change its initial state. but we believe that when each temporary consciousness reintegrates himself with his higher mental body it creates a disturbance that alters the structure of the entire network of life. transforming it and adding new data to its collection of impressions and records. We couldn't achieve yet the total knowledge of this wonderful process.com – i Cavalcanti source consciousness. Therefore every existing being is very important to the process. So. This transference will occur when the body can no longer allow the manifestation of his consciousness. since this process means the return of the primary energy that started the whole cycle of creation. which makes it possible to maintain the continuously evolving process. which are likewise passed to higher dimensions infinitely. The only word possible to describe all this is perfection. especially those that 187 . This energy that specializes forming the different beings in existence returns from each of them bringing in new features.
with an exception. which processes all external impressions in order to allow the analysis and reasoning. the neurons. you can identify in his body structure some elements that act more freely. All the knowledge and information which travels through the brain is actually small energetic particles that crossing the neurons through its synapses. This small being. When the body loses its ability to retain all that information. These structures are fully interlinked. Information is energy temporarily retained in that organ through its electrically active structure. These elements are the nerve cells.interviewwithgods. free of a restrictive programming. That exception enables to the man recognize himself as an individual. the neuron. what happens? 188 . All your body systems work seamlessly and its control is automatically done without his owner being aware of it.com – i Cavalcanti operate independently. be aware of him and to create a whole world of personal experience and information that ultimately will shape his behavior. is the key link between body and temporary consciousness. the most important. This occurs in almost all systems. In man himself.
or information. these cells also record their impressions turning them into information. and a being without a strict programming will allow to his temporary consciousness exist with a certain freedom.interviewwithgods." Your brain network which operates in a centralized way is actually a set of millions of living cells that are receiving and transmitting the entire set of external impressions. It's like some people say: "Neither our thoughts belong to us. Can we affirm that man completely controls this specific part of his body? Is a man able to control his thoughts and ideas objectively and consistent? Or is it mostly driven by impulse? What are these impulses that dominate his mind causing him to act as separate and irresponsible? Why is it not possible for most men control their minds? Again. will be released and will follow its natural return path to another available environment.com – i Cavalcanti The energy. at their cellular dimension of existence can respond individually and 189 . I tell you that the elements of this large network. each element of a being expresses himself through the projection of his global consciousness. Besides the physical task of transporting.
The each new information recorded in memory banks will allow the man to experience the sensation of time passage. What you call past is represented by all the information and conclusions stored. which turns into past at every second and leaving its existence. The present is the "now". the time doesn't exist. These are features that end with the destruction of the bodies and the release of the consciousnesses. For free mind. Even in the Biomatrix. or the old ideas and thoughts rearranged. The future is a projection of the records already stored. The sum of all impressions collected from nerve cells will give to man the mental record of the processed information as it was a unique impression. With that. I want to show that your temporary 190 . Understanding these mechanisms is the initial way for you see that the space-time relation is just one more property of each dimension of existence.com – i Cavalcanti differently to a set of information. which are renewed every moment giving the feeling of consciousness temporal displacement. Other beings can perceive time in accordance with the functioning of their sensory organs.interviewwithgods. each element deals differently with the sensation of time passage.
It's very important that each human has any time to devote to himself. less free space will be available for his natural development. With minds in conflict.com – i Cavalcanti consciousness can only act on the information captured and recorded in your brain. You need to stop wasting 191 . is necessary that each man can reunite himself with his own inner nature. This behavior is the result of conflicting impressions of individual‟s nervous system with the vast array of information that form the mental basis of society. but if more conflicting data are processed. Therefore I affirm that for human civilization can reenter consciously into system of life that surrounds them.interviewwithgods. Hence the great difficulty of you understands the complex world of human behavior. The man‟s temporary consciousness is capable of storing and processing all the information received in each second. all sorts of problems and deviations may arise. allowing to him even survive in an environment with behaviors that are out of his nature. This fact caused to your civilization to lose your time to biologically reintegrate yourselves with the Biomatrix. which makes possible the perception of individuality.
com – i Cavalcanti time with all these silly things that you not tire to invent. While you keep acting like robots mesmerized by all these mental creations that were fed along your history. Stop for a while and think about yourselves. all your computational networks will become obsolete and the great information highway 192 . Acting proactively and with free transit over the entire mental field of the planetary subconscious. you will effectively take for yourselves your part in the evolutionary process. The integration effect will begin at individual level.interviewwithgods. firing the trigger of energy return that definitely will shake the whole universal network of existence. and afterward will reach the collective. coming from all its kingdoms. Thereafter. You will consciously access the entire neural network by linking yourselves mentally to all planetary knowledge stored since its creation. how you fit in this big puzzle of existence. the man will cease to be a separated being and unconscious in all planetary process. When this time comes. you won't be able to see what really matters. It will allow to entire body of Biomatrix to work more harmoniously.
Due to they have arisen in different parts of the planetary body.com – i Cavalcanti will be the whole body of the Biomatrix. We can start the dialogue. which was initially implanted in some beings developed to serve as a starting point.E. The human 193 . please. their communication wasn't so different of species from animal kingdom. through its vast cerebral network. according to factors related to the interaction quality of each group among themselves and with external environment. the different languages. .C: The human emergence in the Biomatrix occurred simultaneously in different parts of its body.interviewwithgods. did it create a barrier that separated us and made us more aggressive? Why did this happen? Should we not have developed a unique way to communicate? . Small groups of hominids were created according to human genetic code. and despite they having a unique body constitution. the humanity developed their senses and communication tools in isolation. as I had spoken.Mudiwa: On the problem of communication. Initially.
in order to sustain 194 . it has appeared in humanity a behavior of imposing ideas and lifestyles instead integration and transformation. That was the beginning.com – i Cavalcanti attribute of act spontaneously in reactions to the impressions and interactions with the external environment has opened to them a vast field of possibilities and behavioral variations. designed and configured to receive this new form of expression. which through his cream curiosity and exploratory sense began his long journey toward achieving the noblest knowledge. the integrated consciousness. The biggest motivating factor for this type of thinking was the spreading of created ideas from the time of formation of these societies. and the different groups began to interact.interviewwithgods. Those societies was characterized by maintaining the social structure through the exploitation of the vast majority with imposition of ideologies and philosophies created to hold the citizens‟ interest in the forced labor. a body full of resources. when the first local leaders were established. In your civilization. at the time when you became able to move over greater distances.
At this time. Unfortunately this was a cycle of death. The 195 . and become more integrated. it has not changed its operating structure. these leaderships began to experience a feeling of dissatisfaction. the result of a normal mental growth of entire population which has began to reject the existing way of social organization. With the passage of time and mental development of the conquered peoples. what happened was the displacement of that local social vision to other communities that were conquered one after another. assuming the position earlier occupied by the peoples mentioned above. Even masked through the ages by different ideological models. In the course of time. These populations were enslaved. instead this. mental slavery and bigotry that was propagated till today. It was like a snowball.com – i Cavalcanti their wealth and power.interviewwithgods. as well as the abolition of the most barbarous conduct. after overcoming the initial conflicts that are part of the first steps. when normally these people would begin to know each other in a natural way. and transformed into commercial hubs of the conqueror states. the ruler classes were forced to develop new mechanisms to keep the system created.
which focus only on the consumption of goods designed to keep your minds occupied and calm. So. slaves of all this ideology of cultures isolated by the cultural systems of protection and trade. but it seems that in the name of commercialism he forgot to bother with himself. wouldn't we have reached that point of deterioration? How to develop a society without the 196 .interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti man has developed technologically. Since a long time all of you have all the resources to develop a unique and efficient communication system.Mudiwa: So. If you had worked together with this goal you could quickly reach it. with his mental evolution. is the mercantile system the great villain of our story? If not for its breakthrough that led us to industrial revolution and created the current political scene. but the type of social system where you are inserted doesn't has any interest of full integration between your peoples. . it has emerged on your humanity a separatist policy that transformed human beings into robots. The exchange of knowledge and mental evolution of man is a real threat to that ideology which is based on exploitation of lack of people knowledge.
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stimulus of trade, which promotes development of new technologies to generate knowledge and exchange? - E.C: Let's see, I didn't mean that the act of producing consumer goods and provide them to people through value systems should be necessarily a wrong behavior. I say again that the concept of trade created since the beginning of your civilization was based on an unequal relationship of exploitation and enslavement. That is a fact, look around you and see the result of centuries of wild trade. How many nations have been entirely decimated in the name of the conquering expansion of all kinds of explorers? How many men, women and children were cowardly murdered to make room for the progress? It's really hard for you today, after centuries of brainwashing, try to imagine other ways to establish a society in a human manner. It seems that for you, be a robot satisfies fully all the desires of the vast majority of your society today. The human life in your Biomatrix has become a big repetition. What actually changes are only the sceneries, the spoken languages and ethnic characteristics of people. Everyone seems to be in a
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trance, always looking for a little bit more of currency to buy something else. To get that crumb you undergo this deadly routine doing repetitive tasks that require less of your brains. You have created armies and new weapons to protect your rich homes from the millions of poor, which excluded, roam around your land dreaming about take their little piece of dream of a lifestyle that preaches freedom above all things. I'm out of your life‟s dimension and I have been in others like yours, therefore I can really say that there are other ways to establish rules of human relationships based on equality and development together. I can also say that in the last 20 years we observed in your society several movements that represent a beginning, even if late, an attempt at integration and sustainable development in several locations. This movement is gaining momentum with your new technological features that somehow are integrating this great mercantile system and making it globally interdependent. This is an important step to raise awareness around the values prioritized by such system, and for the creation of a large collective reflection about the advantages and disadvantages of
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maintaining it. I hope it can create a field for a selfanalyzing of all humanity and then start to develop a new mindset on your relationships. It's possible to exchange knowledge without conflicts, mutual exploitation and exploitation of natural resources. To do this you just need to see a little bit beyond the walls that surround your homes, your cities and your countries. These walls are only on the minds of every person, and right there is the place where they should be demolished initially. When they start to fall, the concrete walls won‟t make more sense to your lives. All knowledge gained by man should be shared and used for the development of all, and not to become just another great product in the shelf, available to few. - Catherine: I believe that thirst for commercial expansion generated wars, and with it, all sorts of human and environmental degradation. Is the peace the only possible way for nations to interact and break down these existing cultural blockages? How to achieve peace?
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- E.C: How to talk about the world peace if you don't find this state even in your minds, which are taken by all sorts of contradictions and dualities. What is to be in peace? It means that you don't want evil to your fellows? What does this word mean? Peace is just a word created to define conceptually a state of mood in which men do not experience desire or need to be in conflict with their equals. In short, peace is a utopian alternative that expresses a sentiment of opposition to the violent behavior of man, who found among the different ways to express himself, in another word, the higher meaning for the insanity and cruelty; war. What drives a man to throw himself fiercely against his fellow to the point to take off his life? Would it be hunger, despair, or madness? Or it would be the will to enforce his social and ideological concept and his commercial interests to the detriment of other interests also isolated? The violence is rather a human characteristic that accompanies its kind since its inception, when still endowed with animal instincts; they began his journey of development. It's something that comes
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uncontrollably but over time, with the development of reasoning should become a small trait of his personality. It‟s an available resource to be put into use only in case of risk to the integrity of being. So, what kind of violence can make a general pushes a button and launches a rocket that in few minutes takes millions of temporary consciousnesses from the planetary body at once? Could the hunger cause such action? Don't waste your time looking for excuses, because they don't exist. This type of violence is the result of a society blindly guided by artificial concepts to human nature, all designed to sustain desperately a lifestyle incompatible with all perfection created and made available for your development. Things artificially created like some concepts: good and evil, micro and macro, dirty and clean, real and unreal. These terms are an attempt to create boundaries where you can't impose limits. The result is that entire area enclosed by these dualities turned into a territory explored by pseudo-intellectuals and scholars who have created their own theories to control the human minds, which were so exhausted and hungry for some
Duranjaya: Are the borders that separate our nations an obstacle to our development? I see national interests being placed as an obstacle to establish environmental conduct rules to protect our planet. What do we do to face this challenge? .E. To be clear. the man will only be able to experience something like the concept past by the word peace. which have formed and have recorded this artificial information very strongly in their temporal 202 . when it loses totally its sense of existence simply because there is nobody who doesn't know himself. when it ceases to be used. his fellows and all other beings who share the planetary body with him. . its people and customs are the result of the continuous development and establishment of specific behaviors of groups.C: The countries. and the problem is in our organizations that hinder this movement.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti comfort that gave them the false hope of belonging to something that could justify such insanities. I believe somehow everyone already has inwardly the thought of change.
Europeans or Asians. I have no interest in discussing issues related to sovereignty of peoples and the human right to organize themselves in the way that suits them best. repeatedly over centuries.com – i Cavalcanti consciousnesses. at its dimensional level. not even the duality of night and 203 . All boundaries created by your society are purely imaginary.interviewwithgods. I have already said that I don't see you as Africans. it was passed from generation to generation. Americans. look down and all these lines no longer will make much sense. For example. I see all mankind as a single movement of life. Travel by plane. What makes an African imagine that he is really different from an Asian is the virtual wall created by society. a man who travels a lot and have contact with many people can better see the great folly of thinking about the world as an atlas cut by lines and names which divide each part of the planet in small pieces. Unfortunately all the rules of mental conduct eventually emerge from this virtual concept and away from the real nature of every being. which is full of false ideologies limiting the scope of people‟s understanding and make them accept this artificial reality. I can guarantee that from space it's unimaginable. For Biomatrix.
When you finally discover that all of you share the same dreams. They prevent you to discover what lies behind. each man will act as a transforming element to the whole society. talk to people who born far away. they should start using that network to find other cultures. Through these contacts you will be able to know yourselves better. where this beautiful blue sphere makes its way through the cell spinning in a dance of lights and shadows. Every moment its body receives the invigorating warmth of the central core.com – i Cavalcanti day is real. Through this network. Do discover that most of the differences lie in the outermost layer of your consciousness. which is a means of easy access to many of you. like a ballet. I mean ordinary people. just as I explained to the word peace. I'm not talking about integration among governments and countries. This layer is similar to clouds covering the sun. one by one. when come the time when most men achieve this vision of 204 . is possible to start a new phase of integration between people. So. deeper in every being. Today the Internet is a tool capable to take away from people‟s mind this false idea of separation.interviewwithgods.
color or country will also lose their sense of existence. The self-destruction behavior of humanity causes a mental reflex in all “Life”. The constant deforestation causes the return of multiple vegetal consciousnesses to his network. This living being feels mentally the attacks over his body.com – i Cavalcanti unity. The killing of animals causes the same.interviewwithgods. the 205 . The Biomatrix is a being that lives in his own dimension and his temporary consciousness can perceive changes in its body differently than a human who contracts a disease.E. but with that feeling amplified due to the nature of their consciousnesses. I emphasize that to Biomatrix. My presence here already signals a concern at different levels of existence in relation to your development. and this is reflected beyond his body.Jacques: Can we fail to the point of exhausting all the natural resources of our planet? . the word race.C: Unfortunately this is a real possibility. . I can say that human behavior is projecting on the planetary mind a worrying psychological state. through his diversified network brain.
if you allow.E. If your humanity continues insisting in damage his health certainly the immune system of “Life” will utilize its resources to prevent his death. with just four billion years. and with a whole future ahead. .C: All of you were chosen to participate in this work due to your ability to understand the knowledge imparted. which to him would represent a few time. which will abruptly leave their planetary bodies and should reintegrate themselves very slowly and primitively on the healing process of Biomatrix. Of course. With time you'll have the real 206 . It will be a trauma for the Biomatrix and respectively for all temporary consciousnesses.interviewwithgods. in order to return to his prime function in this organism. It will be a great sadness to have to redo the entire course of biological development of this being.João: How to gather all this received information in order to pass it to others? .com – i Cavalcanti notion of time passage is quite different from human consciousnesses. the being feel himself as a child. On his notion of time.
but it will serve in the future as a diffusing factor of new way of seeing your universe. in order to this set of information somehow can encourage the curiosity and interest in each one to start a personal quest for self-recognition and subsequently. You should not bother to change what was said. because the content is intended to impart knowledge for individual growth without impacting the social structure. After a pause. it starts the reintegration process.interviewwithgods. It will be a knowledge that will depart simultaneously from multiple locations of your planet. The final task of the group will be to prepare a free-form material that may be disclosed in your society. Your geographical diversity at first can be an obstacle to overcome to the elaboration of the material. as our friends from agency use to think. EC has continued: 207 . regardless of any social or cultural rule.com – i Cavalcanti perception of the sheer magnitude of everything that was spoken here. always concerned with keeping alive their dreams of power. It will be a human knowledge.
I‟m finishing this phase of our work with great joy and with the hope that soon you can gather all information and make it available to other people. very happy to experience this great miracle of being in contact with beings from a dimension so different from mine. See you tomorrow. and one goal.com – i Cavalcanti . we‟re all one life. for you can decide how best to complete the job. I hope the brightness of this comet enlighten your minds and provide you the ability to understand everything that was written in these four days.C: Dear friends.interviewwithgods. Tomorrow we‟re going to meet again for the last contact. 208 . beings who always have been willing to hear me in search for knowledge and development. after passed this information I finished my part in this journey. After all. Despite the difference of space-time. From now on.E. always remember that life is perfect. At this meeting I'll be available for other questions related to work and I also to give for our friends from NSA the opportunity to participate.
were talking: . It will be another conspiracy theory. I would like you analyze the risks of exposure of such information to the public. At the White House. President. They said that probably the comet was crossing a long path outside the solar system before reach us.President: Gentlemen. the secretary of defense and the director of NSA. I think if it was disclosed it would be just another material among many that have no scientific basis and are left in the field of conceptual speculations. after watching all the interviews. and it was not yet possible to predict his return that certainly would take millennia.com – i Cavalcanti At same day of the latest interview the newspapers said that scientists and astronomers have not yet managed to identify the possible orbit of the comet Millennium.Secretary of Defense: Mr. the president. a material to be distributed among people in search of theoretical hobbies. I don't see this as a threat to our security. 209 . .interviewwithgods.
..President: Is it possible that other countries follow the same path if they have access to this information? .com – i Cavalcanti .President: Our agents and analysts already have the questions to be asked tomorrow? . but I think we must gather all the key pieces of work relating to the technologies used to transport these beings. bla. and so everything will not go over a fictional story with the objective of creating a new consciousness. .Director of NSA: I don‟t think so. and the other concepts presented..interviewwithgods... we have elaborated more than 20 questions and we organized them 210 .. I believe we can learn something or improve our scientific insights from these concepts. We know that all this was a real process of external contact. The others don't need to know it.Director of NSA: I agree partially with the vision of our secretary of defense..Director of NSA: Yes sir. and bla. bla.
211 . the wolf. was starting his plans.interviewwithgods. even cornered. So. We don't know how many questions will be permitted.com – i Cavalcanti according to priority. these guys continued their speculations and plans for the last contact that would be done in 24 hours. Throughout the work with the group were not many. Once again. following his astute old style.
and so on. urban violence. which initially provoked a rush to the stores in search of binoculars and telescopes. no longer was causing much impact. increased of poverty.C: Since I started monitoring the work of your Biomatrix I have been waiting for this 212 . it was nearing the time to say goodbye to the most spectacular experience of their lives. The appearance of comet. as on early days. and it was gradually losing in the audience for news trivia like the war in the Middle East. But for a small group of people separated by thousands of miles.interviewwithgods. as if nothing special was happening. EC entered the site and started the last conversation they would have: .E. It was something to be recorded in their memory and to be passed on through generations. everybody were following his usual routine.com – i Cavalcanti 10 – Farewells and Revelations As the comet Millennium was starting its way out of the solar system and its bright diminished in intensity. Exactly at 23:00 GMT.
I hope you know how to take this knowledge ahead and reap its fruits. and it was so. Others of us have had this experience in different ways and at different times. I had watched some of these encounters. I'm very happy with this opportunity to bring from so far our known about subjects and concepts extensively studied and discussed by your society. I don't delved so much on subject in academic way because my goal was never literally teach you about the characteristics of your universe. I‟ll be on hand to answer some questions about the work and mission. Before this contact with you. From the moment I first saw a contact with humans I realized that I should study and prepare myself for the day when I could stand before you. but show a different path in order to you see all these things. In this last meeting. open to all who are following. I'm at your disposal. The order may be some questions intercalated between the NSA's staff and the group.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti opportunity to come into direct contact with humans. 213 . For let us do it well. I'll organize the conversation as follows: I'll answer a few questions from friends of the group "One Planet" and American friends.
Firstly we would like to know what your origin is and what type of technological resources has enabled your civilization to identify us from among billions of stars and planetary systems.Paul: Greetings to all. I'm here on behalf of the U. I. exist in a dimensional plane that lies outside your current limits of understanding.S. separated from you by all existing living space between our space-time dimensions. We didn't decide to study you as an exotic species or something like that. What are these probes.com – i Cavalcanti So. To those who are supposedly free and to those who are truly enslaved.interviewwithgods. as always. as my fellows. which have been monitoring the development of our species? . In Washington all they were monitoring.C: My answers are directed to all mankind. government. following the order determined in advance. We're simply here. our people and all free nations. We don't live on a remote planet in a distant galaxy or in any parallel universe. Paul began with the first question. in NSA. Through 214 . .E.
Our consciousness is beyond the temporary body of your “Life”. through the creation of a specific genetic coding to control its behavior. Our probes are complex devices designed from the engineering that I quoted. in order to find ways to neutralize their activity in the human body. universally available.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti our mental and technological advancement we became able to search for pseudo-physical life forms far beyond our borders. The type of technology mentioned in the 215 . They have the capacity to self build as they go through the different dimensional plans of space-time. They act on a temporary and at the end of its useful life they are discarded automatically without a trace. .Mudiwa: I'm an expert in biology and genetics and I work all time studying information about different viruses that cause infectious diseases. Our technology is based on manipulation of the primary structures. Its constitution follows the available elements from each of these dimensions. This technology would be something like your still incipient projects in the field of nanotechnology.
The manipulation of the codes of life is a technological marvel for use of beings with a consciousness integrated to life. The uncontrolled and unplanned growth of your kind by ignoring all rules of natural development has generated harsh elements to the man's vital system.interviewwithgods. the planetary body itself should be the responsible for creating conditions of equilibrium between the different species. Although I understand your concern.C: The worst kind of disease that can strike your humanity is the perception lack of the different process that unfolds in front of you every day at every moment.com – i Cavalcanti previous question would allow us to overcome this kind of diseases? . which prevents you from leaving your old destructive habits. It wouldn't make sense in the context of your existence. with another purpose. due to the fact that you are living in such chaos.E. The diseases afflicting your society are a direct result of the quality of interaction held for millennia between humans and animals. About our technology. It would be like giving 216 . plants and minerals. it was created in an environment free from problems similar to yours.
. as well as your body follows a project in which a lot of elements are repeated to form living structures.C: Your Biomatrix is a living part of an even bigger living body. the Biomatrix is inserted into a structure that repeats itself through the body of “Life” to form another even larger structure.E. you all act attacking the life. This body has a structure that follows a well planned project. you start developing medicines to fight these elements.Paul: It was said in one of the interviews. It's insane. but you never stop attacking the environment. and how far we are from them? Will we be able to contact them in the near future? . about the existence of Earth-like planets throughout the universe. Just as in your body.interviewwithgods. Mostly often only have access to these new drugs those few men who have financial resources. The rest suffers and dies.com – i Cavalcanti food to a stone. Actually. Could you speak more about these other planets. This information is very simple to 217 . So you are always creating new potential diseases. thereby generating elements that will certainly attack your bodies later. After do that.
The distance between the Biomatrices. who is part of this vast neural network. is still unattainable for your science. As I mentioned in one of the interviews. there is of course something to consider.interviewwithgods. Regarding to contact these other planets. men of various Biomatrices become able to access the conscious 218 . The cerebral networks of all Biomatrices are interconnected providing intelligent communication at the level of planetary consciousness and its sub-elements.com – i Cavalcanti understand from the perspective that I put. the man‟s deployment process in a Biomatrix directly involves the passage of genetic information sent from another Biomatrices already developed. In the body‟s structures that compose every being. which are embedded in the structure. but you have a problem bigger than this distance. Usually. which is the right way to you understand this structure. but this is an automatic communication. like the man. the communication between these elements is a necessary resource for maintaining them. From the surface of your Biomatrix and from the cellular near space it's impossible to visualize the spatial configuration of your system elements.
which is included as an integral element of a cell body and that in turn helps to form the fabric of galaxies. although still in a semi-conscious manner. can establish different levels of contact with other elements using the mental body of planet. you'll be isolated from this universe of possibilities unless you come back to the path of your natural development. This fact doesn't prevent that in your Biomatrix some men mentally developed.interviewwithgods. Regarding your civilization. This kind of event always fed our imagination and provided us the basis for creation of numerous theories.Hans: Throughout our history we find several reports about sightings of unidentified flying objects.C: The existence‟s process of a being like your Biomatrix. Is there a relationship between these appearances and the devices that have been sent by your civilization through the ages? . .com – i Cavalcanti network of intercellular communication when they begin integrate themselves to the planetary life. involves an enormous number of mental and physical relationships that are beyond your 219 .E.
There is a continuous process of energy exchange between the different elements that make up the body of “Life”. it's due to your inability to recognize intelligence and coordination arising from forms of existence quite different from the human.com – i Cavalcanti current knowledge. The fact that you can perceive an intelligent behavior in these sightings and so producing a lot of alien theories. These energies are live agents from the cell body that act by interacting with the components that form the membrane and different parts of the earthly body.interviewwithgods. Sometimes when in contact with the body of your Biomatrix these energies can take plasma forms. 220 . which has always been directly tied to his body and mental limitations. and when this happens. assuming different states of composition according to the environment found. you can briefly track its movement across the atmospheric membrane. The man has always focused on discovering and studying the laws governing his existence environment from concepts extracted through his capacity of observation. through its structure. with functions completely unknown and unimaginable. This energy circulates through the cellular and galactic body.
Many unidentified contacts made most often by ordinary people comes from objects linked to research and test technologies developed by governments and scientific communities.com – i Cavalcanti Regarding our probes.interviewwithgods. which are invisible to the great majority. depending on the location of observation and the life form to follow. these entities usually carry out tests in isolated locations. due to it is built with existing materials inside the body of your Biomatrix they are programmed to look similar to the element most appropriate. These meetings are casual and in most cases you can't find evidence to do a mental association in your brains to the fact occurred. that he can actually register in his brain this type of contact and from there develop an understanding about the fact. and in most cases the people soon forget what happened. Much of the 221 . Most of these projects have military aims. but they can happen. In the name of protecting this knowledge. But it's possible for a man who has already developed his mind to observe the psychological elements. It's not common occurs contact between men and our probes. and when they need to test in populated areas they do it at night.
E.C: As most of the questions refer to doubts that are common to all. and after that I will end this mission.com – i Cavalcanti existing conspiracy theories are created by the government to divert attention from ordinary people of the real goals of their experiments.interviewwithgods. as well as ruling out the possibility of their political and trade opponents to be aware of it and prepare themselves. I will permit one more question to NSA and also to the group. nowadays isn't very common for most of you to get some time to observe the sky and look to the stars. Anyway. Please. After a while EC made an observation: . up because we have no choice. . It would be a valuable time for developing your minds. We wonder what kind of technology was used to interfere in our computer‟s networks. but we'll follow your determination. sending the message to our radio telescopes 222 .Paul: We would like to have more questions answered.
Your computer networks are still a poor mechanized version of the great life web of information that fills all bodies and minds in Multiverse.com – i Cavalcanti and the creation of this comet. The delivery of the message was made through the nucleus of your system with the intent to quickly get your attention. You are using the word "helpless" with a fear connotation.C: I'll start with the last part. 223 . To send the signal from the sun.E. it was built using solar elements to resist in its environment the enough time for transmission. but actually you're afraid of losing the ability to control. to understand the operation of your machines and use them for our purposes was a question of technological ability. From now on. we put a probe in the cellular body. as you noted. to lose your position of technological edge over the others. For us. There was never a time in the history of your humanity in which you weren't helpless to our probes. The radio broadcast is very simple even for you. will we be defenseless to this kind of electronic trespassing? .interviewwithgods.
Duranjaya: I would like to return to the subject related to your work of constant monitoring our civilization through the ages.com – i Cavalcanti The comet which you called Millennium was also inserted into the cell body and was programmed to perform a trajectory harmless to anyone of its elements. We found in many 224 . but unfortunately. without interfering with its natural processes. From the knowledge of the genetic code of the element's structure. reach a similar technology. we have artificially created the comet and put it in your system environment. you always follow the selfish tendency to hide information rather than share them with the rest of humanity. I repeat that it was programmed to undo so leave your system. . when it is at a distance where it can no longer be detected by your devices. The fact that you are getting this kind of information. For now it's just what I say. Just because you can hear all these things it should serve as impetus for your mental growth. poses in front of you the possibility of dreaming about develop yourselves and some day.interviewwithgods.
The questions and responses on the issues have always been treated objectively.com – i Cavalcanti records of ancient peoples as Egyptians. who built monuments and symbols with an enhanced precision for that time. Is there a direct relationship between your civilization and these ancient gods? . later called Gods. Mayans. without flourishes or linguistic terms of double meaning. Most of these constructions follow an astronomical orientation. It's important you understand that for us. even this form of expression is quite different from our natural way to relate between ourselves. Aztecs and Celts.E. What‟s the image that you have formed in your brains regarding what I am? 225 . Incas. some reports describing physical contact with higher beings. These beings apparently have passed astronomical and mathematical knowledge to these people.C: The means of communication that we used in this journey certainly seems to be pretty straightforward for you all.interviewwithgods. Certainly after be aware of this material the people will create in their minds the most varied ways of interpreting this contact and the transmitted knowledge.
it's easy to understand what I'm trying to explain just by comparing. Several of them. hypothetically.interviewwithgods. if a thousand years ago a helicopter landed on a square in Rome. The question of create a mythical association of these contacts. So what happened after that. For example. when were destroyed by the blood of fanaticism and ambition had already taken a big step for this natural process.com – i Cavalcanti Surely you won't think like your ancestors. Even at your current time. with two pilots dressing flight suits and dark helmets. We never made any contact with humans using any kind of resource to persuade or induce their behavior. All communication established ever aimed to indirectly assist the development of your Biomatrix. The incentive to observe all the natural phenomena occurring in your planet‟s body and solar cell‟s body was carried out aiming to inspire those civilizations in the path of reintegration. you can find in your history‟s books. but you'll be still far from the real understanding. what would be the reaction from who was there? Do they understand what was happening or they would create some mental images to fit their perception capacity to 226 .
The existence is the great mystery that inhabits the mind of different beings which fill the whole life movement existing in all dimensions of space-time. more horizons are opened before us. the known and the unknown. trying to show you what you call planet.com – i Cavalcanti record and interpret what was happening? Would they do a relation of the strange machine with the creatures that they used to see in the sky? Actually. 227 .E. I'm here. . you will do the same sort of association by using other elements available mentally according to your current evolution. showing its infinite and perfect character. talking from a place far away and inaccessible. As more we think we are close to unlock this puzzle.interviewwithgods. and like you is part of something bigger: the various microcosm and macrocosm existing in all directions. it lives. EC started what would be his final words on this remarkable journey.C: I would like to end this beautiful work with a few words of instruction and motivation. your home. After answering the last question. even today.
the personal feeling of Paul. so you should find consensus. I won‟t influence or interfere with the way you choose to organize this material.com – i Cavalcanti This knowledge is intended to give an opportunity to you create a new way to understand this universe around you. with your children. I'll always be with you. this 228 . amid tears and a sense of satisfaction and joy of all the friends. with a more natural and organized view. created innocently a few years ago. as well as some others. I'm sure you'll take care of this material produced with your own lives and certainly you‟ll find the best way to pass it to others. With these words this wonderful and mysterious being went away. grandchildren and great grandchildren. You are all humans. See you forever. Despite the strict principles of agency‟s operation. who through the group One Planet. At NSA. didn't differ at all from friends of the group. started a pioneering work of integrating ideas that would culminate with this contact of historic proportions.interviewwithgods. I thank with all my being your willingness and intelligence in those days we were together.
during those days. I invite you to join us next weekend in Switzerland to begin this work. Our mission is to find a way to let you continue with your work without hurting our safety rules. we had been gathered here analyzing a way to handle this situation. Our director has instructed us to not let leak the information about the weakness of our systems and facilities. 229 . and to seek together a way to treat it prior to any disclosure. That fact could bring panic and break our social codes in a sudden and uncontrolled manner. I propose a meeting for us to analyze all information.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti contact had caused a mental change in these people. Paul quickly told to everyone: . and the invasion made by an alien technology. in most of them. Once it was verified by the NSA team the departure of the EC from chat room and the disappearance of the anomaly from internet.Paul: Gentlemen. We'll provide all necessary transportation. We fear by the social balance.
230 . what do you think about his proposal? . .Paul: I'll let you meet in private before we start our meeting. I think we should not fear anything. they have the resources to do this anywhere.Jacques: It wouldn't be better we first meet alone before talking to these people? . If they want to cause us harm. being us together or apart.João: If we don't resolve that issue we can never live in peace. but they are also involved in everything that happened. It may be in a public and open place. It will be without listening devices or any espionage tricks.Mudiwa: I‟m very afraid of what might happen. Certainly we disagree with all principles of these people. without someone or something spying on all our steps.com – i Cavalcanti . . .Hans: Guys.interviewwithgods.Catherine: After that experience.
interviewwithgods.Duranjaya: Guys. I don't know.Duranjaya: EC should be anticipating this kind of situation. After that. I'm sure that above ideologies and rules.Hans: Friends. I'm just a scientist searching for growth. and I have dinner with my wife and my children. I'm not a spy who carries a gun to kill people. we're all interested in learning.Paul: Guys. It's also an opportunity to gather more information. .João: Yes. all my tasks will be left behind until we conclude this work. My team is composed of technical experts in communications and information technology. if we accept this meeting. . as you. 231 . make backups of all gathered information. To know how they went into that story and to prepare a complete material. I come back to my home every day. in case they do something against us.com – i Cavalcanti . do you have availability? . .
. they would fight till the end to pass all information received without any interference by political motives. I'll await each of you personally at the airport. a traditional hotel situated on the lakefront. Duranjaya and Mudiwa also agreed to meet. All they were aware of the difficulties they would face. Paul ended the conversation pointing the last details for the meeting. We'll reserve one of the convention‟s halls to develop our activities.interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti Jacques. a driver will take you from the airport to our meeting point. The official justification will be a congress of scientists to discuss the melting of polar ice caps. 232 . but with the valuable information they had received. Switzerland. but in everyone's mind there was a certainty. When you arrive in Geneva. We'll send first class tickets and a brochure of the event to everyone. At this point the main concern of the group wasn't with the security of each one.Paul: Our meeting will be held in Geneva.
and she was quickly recognized by her friend 233 .interviewwithgods. A few minutes after pack up their luggage. the Americans involved on the process arrived at Geneva in a U.S. He informed to everyone that as soon as they arrived at the hotel and leave the luggage in their rooms. the group's friends were arriving from different flights. After receiving everyone with warmth and education Paul informed them on the meeting start time and then took them to the hotel. they could use one of the conference rooms or any other place to talk privately before the first meeting. An hour later Mudiwa entered in the hotel lobby. coming from their countries. and soon after they were taken and hosted in an entire floor of a hotel located right near downtown.com – i Cavalcanti 11 – The knowledge must be transmitted On Saturday morning. government jet. the couple went down to the lobby to wait for other friends. Hans and Catherine were the first to arrive at the hotel. Little by little.
Mudiwa: Something tells me that we'll succeed. . They hugged each other tightly.Duranjaya: Hans. We must find a way to finish the job without the interference of these people. It would be unfair after so much effort lost everything in the end.Catherine: I don't believe we're here after all this! Are we going to succeed? .Hans: You are right. . who was a typical Indian with a thin body and a mild countenance. somehow we‟ll succeed. A few minutes later the conversation was interrupted by the arrival of Duranjaya.interviewwithgods. .Hans: At the beginning of it all I couldn't even imagine where we would go. Mudiwa? Even in thousand years I could never dream about this day! I think just 234 . and amid tears they talked: .com – i Cavalcanti Catherine.
They were soon recognized by the group's friends who were talking near the hotel entrance hall.com – i Cavalcanti what we had up here plus this opportunity to be together already worth any risk! . Jacques arrived speaking: 235 . The four stood there talking. the Biomatrix.interviewwithgods.Duranjaya: I couldn't close my eyes. because I could hardly wait to meet everyone. Two hours later a taxi brought together João and Jacques. . will find a way to positively influence our challenge.Hans: I'm sure that together we‟ll find the wisest way to organize all that amazing material. that is. who had arrived at same time.Duranjaya: Friends. .Hans: What a pleasure to meet you personally! How was your flight? . I got a feeling that somehow our Great Mother Earth.
the meeting that they really cared had have already begun. over wooden benches. but I never imagined it would be this way and for this reason.Jacques: Friends! What a joy to meet you! I always thought that we could meet personally someday. the view of the beautiful water jet at the center of lake. All thanks to the adventurous spirit of Hans and Catherine! I think the forest itself guided them on this journey! After the initial moment of emotion fueled by these mindless set of events that brought everyone to that place. There were still two hours to the scheduled start of the meeting with the staff of the NSA.com – i Cavalcanti . the friends decided to talk in some place outside the hotel.João: Hey everybody! I'm so glad to know you personally.interviewwithgods. across the avenue on the banks of Lake Geneva. The chosen place was a beautiful park right in front of the hotel. and behind the imposing peak of Mont Blanc. the sunny skies of the city. but in fact. . 236 .
you know what? Look at the sun. my family and myself. as if nothing else existed. It was like the perfect coat of a grizzly bear. . I have a wonderful feeling. For a few seconds I forget everything else.com – i Cavalcanti Duranjaya started the conversation: .interviewwithgods.Duranjaya: Folks. That was awesome! The native forest seen from above seemed to form a homogeneous coverage. but in another way.João: I had a similar perception. Since the first interview every time I look at the sky and see the sun. For a brief moment I have the timeless consciousness that I'm here and I can feel in every part of my body its heat that runs through all space that separates us. Try to do it! It is a time for integration! I believe it's the first step to begin to better understand our universe. my students. But unfortunately the areas of animal husbandry and planting seemed huge 237 . as the junction of different species of trees just formed a single layer. Only the sun and me. My plane flew over a large area of plantations and after flew over a native forest.
Mudiwa: Our visiting friend certainly saw important qualities in us to accomplish the work. it will be the start of a new way to think about nature. but equal in origin and consciousness. looking like great wounds in a body. The more people can feel what João felt. If that bear had flaws in his pelage at the same rate of deforestation of farmland in the planetary body he would certainly be in a desperate situation. .Hans: Have you made copies of all the interviews? 238 . .interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti holes. We are very different in surface features. . This is the miracle that we must to pass for everyone. with crops planted forming symmetrical designs. I stopped a moment to think about it. and I made an analogy with the body of the bear.Jacques: I think we're starting to learn to feel our planet as a living being. I felt these wounds as if they were mine.
Duranjaya: I also copied to my other computer and brought it printed.Mudiwa: I thought of combining a way of dividing the tasks between us.com – i Cavalcanti .Hans: I thought of publishing anything on our site. . . this content that was passed is different from all our material already published. We can do the 239 . . but then I figured out that even being it an ecology site.João: Yes.Jacques: I printed everything and put in the safe that I have at home. It's unique.Mudiwa: I recorded it in my pendrive.interviewwithgods. . because just two days won't be enough to finish everything. . I made a copy on CD and another on pendrive.Catherine: I think it was a good start but we need to discuss a way to organize this information and make it available. .
Jacques: What they fear is that image of the agency can be impaired and that other leaders have 240 .Duranjaya: How do these people from the NSA will deal with this situation? Will they try to convince us not to finish that work? . .Mudiwa: Each one is directly responsible by world that we have built.com – i Cavalcanti work in our homes.João: I don't understand it. . .interviewwithgods. actually there is no information that directly impairs governments. organizations or private interests. It's a shame they haven't seen it yet. . speaking to each other through Internet. as we always did.Hans: Paul has already said there is information that they can't disclose. and after finish it we could schedule another meeting to join the material. This will be a problem.
Paul started the conversation: .Hans: It's an absurd! Even when dealing with a subject that completely escapes the scope of military and government these people are concerned in defend his strategic interests. He invited them to enter the hotel and begin the initial conversation with him and other members of the NSA. I would like to introduce my team.Paul: Good afternoon everyone. before start. Once everyone settled down. Arriving at the huge hall. until Paul came to join them. which had been 241 . decorated with beautiful antique furniture and fixtures. What about the common interest of mankind? The friends continued to talk and look for ways to complete the mission that they would face. the friends have already found inside the room three people seated and waiting for the start of the meeting. .interviewwithgods.com – i Cavalcanti access to information that makes some reference to advanced technologies.
and this is John.Junior: Gentlemen. Everyone greeted each other politely.Hans: I understand your situation as employees of that agency and your position in defending the interests of your way of life. From right to left. an official responsible for tracking information on the Internet. they 242 . this is Junior. our expert in cryptography. Our director can't come because he was called by the President for a meeting at the last minute. and then Hans said to all: .com – i Cavalcanti together since the beginning. this is William. I think our government doesn't want to completely hide everything we did. the astrophysicist who captured the radio signals sent by the EC. we were tasked to come here and try to find a consensual way to deal with this situation.interviewwithgods. but all that has happened doesn‟t give us enough information to think that something needs to be done? Are we not mature enough to know that all our lives and the life on the planet are above the governments? . otherwise.
We aren‟t military or advocates of political systems.interviewwithgods. Until the day I was called to receive the radio signal. We are the only people inside the agency who have had access to the complete information of this process.John: I personally have no connection with this agency. why would they invite me? 243 .com – i Cavalcanti wouldn't send us here.William: We are all scientists and technicians. I'm a researcher at the behavior of stars and my job is to identify and analyze each new galaxy in order to understand more about the universe. . Paul informed me of everything so we got on the plane during the trip. Before coming here I didn‟t know about the contact made. which we have studied and practiced in universities and in all companies where we have been working. on the content of the contact. I only heard about NSA through the movies of spying and adventure. . If their goal was to cover up everything. We just do our daily work.
We'll need some time to gather all the information and think of a way to transmit it. I don't see a way to do it so fast.Hans: Paul. He promised me to give us the feedback before we get back.Paul: We are very happy to participate on this unique event. with no worries in censoring anything. .Paul: They didn‟t speak specifically. .interviewwithgods.Duranjaya: I didn't understand what the intention of your agency was when they scheduled this meeting. my director instructed me to meet with you and collect all received information.Duranjaya: I don't know how you expect we prepare an incomplete material. When deciding upon this meeting. What kind of information your agency doesn't want mentioned in this work? . What did they expect? Is that we are going to 244 .com – i Cavalcanti . He asked me to gather the result of this first effort and send to them for an analysis. .
com – i Cavalcanti do everything in two days. While everyone was resting and eating delicious cookies.Mudiwa: Who said that you will be the publishers of this information? Will you use some press agency connected to the government? I doubt it! The discussions continued and they were all starting to see the real conflict of interest between the natural proposed contact and the path that they inevitably would be forced to follow. they wanted that information could be disclosed. Hans called Paul and said to him privately: .Paul: Hans. It was an event far more important than their mere business interests. the strangeness wasn't much different because internally. and then they will simply make an analysis to cut things that they don't agree? . I would like to tell you personally that it was the most incredible experience that I ever 245 . served in the same room by hotel staff. Among the people of NSA.interviewwithgods. After an hour of conversation it was suggested a break for a quick snack.
through their eyes. I talked with my companions. I printed all the conversations that we've had internally and also all contacts with EC. then I put it into a folder. prompted me to take this stand so that treasure received doesn't be wasted among actions of a small group of blind and selfish. a same transformation. This something new which made my conscience awake.Paul: After all that. .com – i Cavalcanti witnessed. . 246 . This experience changed something inside me. I don't know how to handle the situation of being here as an agent with a mission to restrict the work.interviewwithgods. I could see in everyone. I'm telling you this so you know that we are as human as you. and I sent all this by mail to some people of my complete confidence. We'll find a way.Hans: Don't worry. It means that we really were facing something much higher. in my way of understanding all things. Hans: I'm very surprised and happy with your words.
Director of NSA: Yes sir.President: Have our teams already confirmed the deletion of all information in the homes of targets and our staff? .President: I know that it wasn‟t a pleasant decision. the conversation was interrupted by a strong light. Our government will work hard so that people continue to 247 . We had no problems with local authorities in any country.com – i Cavalcanti Suddenly. everything was done accurately. At same time in Washington. the president and director of the NSA were talking: . all computers and electronic devices found were collected by our agents. but the world isn‟t ready to know all these things yet. . Someone may condemn us for it. in the presidential office.interviewwithgods. accompanied by a shock wave and an intense heat that incinerated the conference room and put everything down.
com – i Cavalcanti live their lives. The people who were on site were already identified. being free to choose their professions and dreams. I do this on behalf of our society. the major TV networks reported: A powerful explosion destroyed early today part of a hotel in Geneva. with the blood of our heroes. . There were 248 . I have already provided financial and psychological support for their families.interviewwithgods. So. They were good persons and they all believed in this dream that you just said. A few hours later.Director of NSA: I didn't want to sacrifice my friends. as our heroes who lost their lives in the name of that dream of freedom.President: If they were real citizens they certainly died with honor. I need you immediately classifies and save any material linked to that contact. Switzerland. . which was built with great effort. in their families.
the contact would not have happened! EC came to us in a planned. Do we really were not prepared to get in touch with all this information? Not that! If we were not. and the identities were obtained through their check in records. find each other. one Canadian. So far. four Americans. a Dutch couple. not directly. one Indian and one South African. So. knowing this seed could be planted. the friends of One Planet who together have managed.interviewwithgods. But he 249 .com – i Cavalcanti removed 10 bodies from the rubble. taking with them the newly planted seed for human modification. For some reason they wouldn't be the disseminators of this incredible experience. The Swiss government and other countries are investigating the case together. and turn that magical moment of interaction between people so different and the same time so alike. the obtained information is leading the authorities to believe that this is another action of some terrorist group. so they are gone. in a world divided by ideologies and wars. There were no survivors. They were all members of an ecological group. one Brazilian.
in a truly live being. As he said. Would the interests of a few be able to override the interests of all? I don‟t think so. If that knowledge is able to change only one person. an agent of that cruel system that feeds itself making us believe we are much smaller than we really are. inspired by his human mind transformed by these new concepts. That was how this story could be told. Each one who becomes able to recognize oneself in everything that surrounds will become an agent 250 .interviewwithgods. Perhaps EC ever knew what would happen. Paul. the honest and integrated vision of the universe is so strong that it can turn even a man who always acted in an artificial way. It would be transmitted through a person who initially seemed to be on the other side.com – i Cavalcanti also said he couldn't interfere in our choices. sent all material through the only means which it couldn't be traced. it will be worth the lives of these men. the time is a matter of perspective. the old paper. EC must have imagined that the power of natural knowledge is so great. Perhaps he knew that knowledge wouldn't be lost.
Would you like to be another? Beginning… 251 .com – i Cavalcanti capable of generating a wave that is going to transform the whole society.interviewwithgods.
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