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Pete Peterson - Bill Ryan: Interview Transcript Part 1
Dr. Pete Peterson - Part 1 - Bill Ryan Interior US, 29 June 2009 [Ed note: Normally the transcripts that had any parts in them that had been difficult for the transcribers to hear were put in “audibles” in square brackets in red for Bill Ryan to attend to, fix, then he’d post the transcript; however, due to unexpected interruptions in the normal working process in Project Camelot, this normal process was not able to proceed forward, so the audibles were left in the square brackets.]
Intro: Dr. PETE PETERSON (PP): ...It’s an area that’s very highly defendable. That was very important because of my belief, and the belief of many other people that I have great respect for, that the world is going through a... I’ll call it a meltdown. ...Once the people found out what had done to them by their representatives, they felt that it would be much better for their health and safety to be somewhere else. ...My understanding, it was the third-ever closed session of Congress. ...We found that no matter where the politician was and what committee he was on, when top secret things were talked about, they wanted to close the session early so they could get out and put their tips out to the news. We don’t have any confidentiality in that. It leaked out, I’m sure. BR: Am I right in assuming that you wouldn’t contradict those leaks? PP: I wouldn’t contradict them at all. BR: Thank you. Beginning of Interview: BILL RYAN (BR): This is Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot and this is Monday, June the 29th, 2009. And this is a Project Camelot interview with a difference because not only have I flown the best part of 8,000 miles – at least it feels like, if it's not quite that many – from Europe to be here for the weekend, but we are also here with David Wilcock, who has also flown from Los Angeles here for the weekend, to join us in a meeting that we had with Dr. Pete Peterson, who’s a name that not many people will know, but may be – among the many extraordinary whistleblowers and contacts and researchers and scientists who we have had the great pleasure of talking to – may be one of the most important. Yesterday we were talking off-record for the best part of twelve hours and our minds are still digesting an enormous amount of extraordinary information that he shared with us, some of which is off-record. As much as possible, Pete is willing to put on record here, on camera, because you feel, don't you, Pete, that there is a profound and important reason why the sort of people who will be watching this video need to hear what it is that you have to say. We want to salute you because you're a very brave man. One of the things we want to ask you straight off the cuff is why is it that you feel that you wanted to put some of your almost unbelievable and very important
testimonies on camera for a lot of people to listen to and watch and understand at this time? Why is it that you've come forward and you're talking to us now? Dr. PETE PETERSON (PP): Well, I think the main reason for that is I've had an inside insight for many, many years, having been picked up in various programs to do things for the government since I was 13 years old. Being a problem-solver, I wish I could say that it was hard work and so forth, but I come from a long line of inventors on both sides of my family tree, and people who graduated from school very early and were significant in affecting things that affected humanity, a number of them, in virtually every kind of field and climate. I see that the world seems to have gone downhill. I'm aware of many programs to remove intelligence from people and return the people, at least of this nation [America], to a mediocre status. We've watched the school systems deteriorate. We've watched the, as my wife likes to say, the program in the school systems No child left with a mind. (That's her paraphrase for it.) And I've seen that the type of government we have... though I'm a patriot and very crudely use the phrase that I got the flag tattooed on both cheeks of my fanny the hard way. I spent ten years in the Marine Corps and a great part of that was in combat and combat zones and other things I did for the government. I like to think I'm unique in that I was probably shot at on most continents. Anyway, what I see happening is a complete turn away from the way this country started out and in its Constitution to what appears to be headed toward a socialistic system where reason and logic has no bearing. It concerns me. I have no idea if my voice can help. I have no idea if that can, but I know that my ideas, I have ideas, I have inventions that have proven to be very helpful to society. Many of them have been suppressed by the fact that we had a government that was run by industry rather than by the people. It's turned away from that, and many industries are actually governed by rules and regulations that make it virtually impossible for them to exist if they do things that are good for humanity. For example, we've had numerous things that have happened in the industry of alternative power that were very inexpensive, very capable. But what we do is we've, through their own legislation, limited the power companies to being able to charge a certain amount over and above their costs, so when their costs went down, their profit went down and they couldn't economically operate. BR: What I would love to ask you about, Pete, before we go into some of the stories that you have to tell – and we have good reason to believe that, having spent the best part of twelve hours yesterday talking about a tiny fraction of your experience, I think that we could probably talk, literally, for days – what the people watching this video are really concerned about, I think, is what can you help them understand better than they do at the moment about what's really happening on this planet at the moment? What are the agendas of the controllers? How much trouble are we in and what can people do? And I want to put that question on hold because this is the purpose of this video as far as we're concerned. There's a whole separate topic, which is a technological topic, because this man we're talking to now has told us about technology that we didn't know existed. My brain is still reeling over a conversation that we had at breakfast this morning about which I'm going to say nothing. Now, before we start all of that – and that was a wonderful overview that you gave about your intentions – can you give us a little bit of a timeline of your career history which started when you were very young? A little bit about the kind of things you've been involved in? We're not asking you to name names, but we just want to present you as somebody who people can get some kind of an idea of who this person is that we're talking to whose name they haven't heard before. PP: Well, I can do that. A very interesting thing we were talking about... I have no idea where these thoughts came to me, but I know that very early on in life I was so different from the people around me that I thought that probably I fell from the sky in a titanium egg and landed in my grandfather’s orchard and my parents found
me there. BR: And I think you're probably right, actually, having talked to you for two days. [laughter] PP: Until I was about 22, I actually believed that. DAVID WILCOCK (DW): [touching Pete on the shoulder with his finger] He is real. He's solid. PP: Then I quit believing that when I was in my mid-20s and in my last few years – I'm nearly 70 – and in my last few years, I've started believing that again. Because I find that the people I'm stuck with here on this little spaceship Earth don't seem to have the same view of anything. It may be that I'm just wacky, but my wackiness has made a lot of products and made a lot of sense to a number of people throughout my life. For some reason I... well, it’s probably genetics, because on both of my parents’ sides I have long lines of geniuses that extend back in history. I grew up in a home that was entirely powered and heated and cooled, in a very temperate climate, was powered by the sun and by atmospheric pressure change. It was a home that had a gallery inside of it, much like Mexican haciendas, but was covered, where we grew all of our meat products in the form of chickens and rabbits and such, and where we grew all of our food products. BR: So you had an interesting and unusual upbringing. PP: I had an interesting and unusual upbringing. We drove in cars that my father made and invented. We lived in homes that my father built out of strange materials that were very highly insulated. My dad was a pioneer in tilt-up concrete buildings and was an engineer for the military in my youth through the Second World War. BR: And you were hand-picked and chosen for a special program when you were as young as 13. Is this correct? PP: Yes, I distinguished myself at age 10 by building a number of rockets that held world altitude records, and by inventing a material that's used even today to power solid-fuel rockets. That material got out of my hands because I'm not a businessman, and wasn't a businessman, and freely gave it away and other people capitalized on it. But I liked explosions, and so, early on, started building rockets. BR: There's a wonderful story that you told us yesterday that we'd love to say again very briefly. I'm going to be using the word briefly in my questions here with an apology, because we know that you could talk with us, literally, for days about the extraordinary experiences you've had, the things that you know, the things you've been told, the things that you strongly believe with good reason. But one of the stories that we wanted you to tell is what happened one day, when you were ten years old, with a bunch of adults, and you had an extraordinary experience. PP: Well, I'll preface that just a little bit with the fact that, as I was growing up, it was in a very small country town about three blocks long and not a lot of people. My parents had a home that had a formal garden, and many of the local people would borrow that for weddings and family reunions and things like that, which my parents gladly lent them the facilities. There was a wedding that went on and, as I remember, it was kind of in maybe June or July of 1950. At that point I had very limited educational resources in this tiny town, but one of the books that got me very, very interested in ancient peoples and anthropology and archeology was the book that was written about the discovery of King Tut's tomb. About the time I finished that book, it got me very, very excited to learn about the Egyptians, and learn about the technologies that they had, and who they were and how they built the Pyramids. A lecturer came to town, the man who wrote the book Kon-Tiki, Thor Heyerdahl. Then that got me excited, so I decided I wanted to be an anthropologist-archaeologist and was dead set on it and reading everything I could get through the state library system on that subject.
of building a laboratory to complete the work that I’ve done. And for the next two hours everyone at the wedding watched a series and groups of what I can only call flying saucers flying through the air – some as close as maybe 100 feet and some as far away as. BR: He didn’t have a red British phone booth. Right? PP: At this point I made a major life change. It wasn’t a red one. and just about as the preacher was to say the words of destruction to the bride and groom.Along came this wedding. [laughs] These things would dash away clear out of sight and come back.. as did many people in the surrounding community. I decided I was much less interested in King Tut than I was in having my own flying saucer. If you go back and look through the various flying saucer sightings that we’ve heard about over the years.. He had a two-holer British phone booth and he would go into it and it would become a time machine. some for – we’ll call them “agencies” – and many of them for myself. DW: Were they all the same? PP: No. We don’t really get television or radio direct much here and have very. 20 miles – put on a spectacular show. you really needed to know first how to build what I call a Doctor Who phone booth. Who was a British science fiction spoof that runs on many stations in America about 1:00 AM to 2:00 AM.. I’m in the process now. Some were the shape of a pencil and seemed to have windows along the periphery. So he was a Time Lord and he would travel back and forth in both space and time. PP: So immediately started studying science. It was a police phone box. Who had a red British phone booth. and there’ve been something like six or seven different Dr. some for large corporations. BR: Right. as far as you have told us in our conversations so far. I’m in the process of building that laboratory in a remote location where there are very little man-made magnetic fields. if you don’t have the factory. Okay. it’s run so long. alright. Dr. They would run away from the people at the wedding party directly. many science projects. you have actually the understanding. Dr. as I tried to figure out how to build a flying saucer. I worked toward that end and have done many. Some were saucer-shaped with a bubble or a dome on top. at age 69. Over the years I came to the conclusion that to build a flying saucer. to . So. so you were looking just at one spot. PP: Ah. Who’s over the years. Some were round like a ball. and you don’t have to push anything through the air? Anyway. So that’s what I’m about right now. very little man-made interference – electromagnetic interference – and it allows me to do my work that I need to do. PP: It was called the TARDIS.. who wants to just shove an aerodynamic body through air when you can just simply get somewhere and dial your destination and walk out where you are. much of it toward the end of building my own flying saucer. Everyone there saw it. some saucer-shaped with two or three bubbles on the bottom. BR: And the significance of this is that. and having acquired a number of very special pieces of equipment for researching such things. I’ve studied science ever since. So that’s the life change that happened when I was ten years old and so I’ve been on that pursuit ever since. there were very different ones. someone pointed up to the sky and said: What’s that? And everyone turned around – there were about 130 people there – everyone turned around and looked. For those who don’t know. maybe. at this point. there was probably one or two of everything we’ve ever heard about. He had a black police phone box. you made a major life change. DW: It was called the TARDIS. Then I got thinking: Well. I found out it was easier to build a TARDIS. BR: And we would say be careful what you wish for because now you have the understanding.
that took a lot of effort to acquire – and it leads me to believe that these ancient documents portray knowledge that we simply don’t have. . I think. they died young. Is this correct? PP: As far as I can tell. I’ve worked with a group of scientists that have recently discovered things in both mathematics and science that would lead me to believe that the greater part of science that we have today – and I have a PhD degree in Natural Philosophy. probably came from the remnants of what didn’t burn in the Great Library of Alexandria... both philosophically and scientifically. you know. and I think they’re pretty fair translations.. you know. I can talk about things that. Well. with machine language translation of a lot of that material which was. All of them had joint problems. They are. And the ones that looked good were later translated by people who had done. There is a lot of information there that is very contrary to things that we believe very deeply. PP: To the Sumerians. some didn’t. and I know those have been thwarted by various religions and various school bodies.. BR: But we human beings are from ET lineage -.. with their making crude tools and things. You can also confirm that the Powers That Be on planet Earth actually have access to this technology and use it for all kinds of reasons. or that they don’t understand or that they don’t want to understand. We have very good records of cave men that didn’t have a language. the bodies couldn’t support the weight.. very ancient documents.. BR: And you’ve been privileged to spend time in the Vatican library. very accurate. Some drew pictures.000 years. so one has to believe. There’ve been recent giants. I’ve seen skeletons of what we call giants. and/or my knowledge is. BR: Are you able to say anything about anything that you learned about the Anunnaki? Or is this off-record as well? PP: Well. I know that there were numerous suggestions that DNA tests be run on them once we got DNA testing pretty well down. who are written about in the Christian and Jewish Bible texts. there are a number of governments that have this technology. They’re very well-formed. We found caves with their tools in them. lifetime studies of the language.. very large through genetic problems that they had. with the evidences of their civilization. But some of the skeletons don’t show those anomalies that one would see. for a time. and that’s basically been held away from the public – it’s not common knowledge – a lot of translations which. genetic errors. BR: To the Sumerians. somewhat crude but at least it gave us some ideas.. but it certainly gives the principles and I’ve experimented with a number of those principles and find out that things take place that in modern physics aren’t possible.are we not? PP: My belief is that. things like that. there are. It probably doesn’t give everything. people not wanting to say that there are things that we don’t understand. My feeling is. which they used to call Physics. in those days.actually be able to make these machines. they had organ problems. and that the knowledge we do have is wrong. They were written about in the Bible and they were written about in other ancient texts. probably. people that would travel around with traveling circuses and so forth that were very. the Anunnaki. They’re very much like our skeletons in many respects. that it’s been acquired from people who came to this planet from off planet.. And it’s been from the reading of a lot of ancient documents dating back as far as 6.. Is this something you can talk about on record? PP: Uh.. I have a Sumerian document that’s been translated that tells exactly how to build a flying saucer and it’s a direct translation. I’ll give you an example. I was involved. Radio carbon dating has become very.
Then I thought: Well. oh. was like one the first Jack-in-the-Boxes. So you had to treat them very different -. I wanted it to be perfect and spent a number of years finding out that the reason I didn’t get over 50 percent was because a lot of people had genetic errors in their genetic system. and was very. they had disease processes that were based on those genetic errors. that that machine could pretty accurately come up with a diagnosis rate of 50 percent. for 3. oh. And you’d drive in and you’d order. so immediately Chris Kraft turns to me and says: Peterson! Solve this problem.. So I finally got it to where about 70 to 75 percent of the diagnoses appeared correct and the selection of medication treatment appeared correct.. over an 80-year period. One of the things that I found was.comes back and there was dead silence and then everybody laughed because we had the thing. Now. and everybody laughed and thought they were simulating the Jack-in-the-Box effect. And they still take place. PP: Well. or even create. very similar sequences in the DNA that were unlike the other 85 percent of the people – and they were unlike anything else on Earth. But I built some no-noise microphones that also had a device that removed all of that problem. Then it could locate or find. created or engineered by ETs. I don’t have absolute proof of that. and I designed a machine that would read a field that surrounded the human body and could give you a read-out on the condition of the organs. many of the viewers of this video will be aware of the influence on ancient Sumeria. That’s one reason I’m building the laboratory here.There’ve been a number of spots that those were found. organ by organ. It turns out that that was the best communication that we had. the last guy that went to work had to be the guy that ran for lunch. So we looked at people that lived in areas that had natural radioactive compounds. and right down the street from JPL. that well could be through exposure to some form of solar radiation or some type of ionizing radiation. It was about. in the body. parasites especially. a medication that would fix it. in modern history since. and etcetera. which is that we actually are. and it went up – the first capsule that went up – so we’re all sitting in Mission Control and called up and you know... where this fully-developed civilization seemed to appear from nowhere. So I made a thing that we eventually called the “Lecture Laundry” and it was a device that found out why such things took place. But one of the things I did notice in the late ‘70s and early ‘80s. you know.. [Ed note: a video splice begins here on a different topic] We sent the Gemini capsule up.000 years. very advanced from things that came afterward. Yeah. I did a lot of medical equipment engineering. Do you read us? [Pete makes noise like muffled radio communication] . in the early beginning. You still go to drive-ins and you can’t understand a darn thing. ten or fifteen years later that we got pretty familiar with and pretty good with genetic testing. So I thought: Well. let’s say 300 BC. had the same language and the same religion and the same writing and the same mathematics. There’s 25 percent here that I really don’t understand. or other. and I found that that 15 percent of people had very. BR: Sure. especially in Africa and Europe and the Middle East. people that were in fallout zones of nuclear testing at the nuclear test center in Nevada. Of course. So everybody realized that these astronauts had taken their turn going and getting lunch. okay.. who knew what they were doing and who wanted to create us for special purposes. we haven’t had any civilization that didn’t change the language to where you couldn’t read it in a 300-year period. all of a sudden. have been.. right above the Rose Bowl. Then. Ground to capsule. They appeared to be alien to the Earth. etcetera. Hello. I was just asking whether you can confirm in any way what a lot of people suspect. like the areas in southern Utah where a lot of the carnotite and other uranium-bearing ores were mined and people that spent time there.these people who had a disease that was based on virii or germs. As a result of that. We found out . emerged a civilization that.. and they’d repeat order back and it’d come back [makes noise like muffled radio communication] and you couldn’t hear a word. Ground to capsule. And.
not only off planet but extraterrestrial or extra-Solar-System-type of visitors. there must be some kind of historical record. I’m sure we’re going to have tons of people wanting to know. could be attributed to anything from paranoia to just tall tales or whatever. so you turn it on in a lecture [Ed. That led me to think: Well. And when I went back and looked at the historical record. people shuffling their papers. etcetera. Most of them I can’t talk about. there’s so many different people that claim having seen such things. but when you have as many as there are. That’s why I have the beliefs that I have. the noise from the rear projection fan. As an example. It’s rather interesting to note that there’s been a lot of supposition about various programs to reprogram people’s minds.. Some were people that I work with scientifically in other fields. I quit building those. all the way down through all of recorded history.that there are three narrow pass bands for all the information as speech is recorded. [Ed note: end video splice here. A few. One of them gives you the identification of the speaker. it’s one of the little things out of my life. I found out that there are numerous records and archaeological evidence that we were visited by people from off planet – very probably. of this 15 percent DNA category. very clearly. So that’s one of the products I intend to get put back into production. etcetera. the noise from the cooling fan. So anyway. DW: Pete. Two of them record the information. You know. seen such peoples. It’s interesting to note that mind control techniques work on 85 percent of the people. but politically would be a very good thing for those in politics and in government and in religion. note: loudspeaker mode] and turn this knob until you can hear the speaker very.] I checked to see why I couldn’t get the final 15 percent of the diagnostic readings correct and finally came to the conclusion that it was because these people had DNA that had come from off planet. But I used to build those and when I moved to build my new laboratory nine years ago. the 15% alien DNA topic resumes. Some were teachers of mine. and there were casual conversations about such things. is it all one type of person. that we have extraterrestrial DNA in our bodies. some of us do. like one race? Or are they distributed throughout the population? And if you can’t tell us. have you encountered any documentation about the existence of our relationship with creatures like that? PP: I have. BR: In the course of your work. . just another verification that those people are very different from the average person. to throw their thinking off. a small percentage of those. if that’s the case. it leads one to believe that it probably was very. And you can hear them perfectly. read Ezekiel in the Bible. PP: But yes. But that one pass band that gives you the speaker identification has to have a variable frequency start–up and drop-off. BR: Ah-ha. Okay.. etcetera. I’ve seen things written by scientists that I have very high respect for. that they existed. very true that such things existed. and the 15 percent that they don’t work well on are people that have that particular DNA string. So you have little knob on it. to cause them to believe things that aren’t necessarily true. anyone who wants to find something from the past. BR: Sure. You don’t hear the airplanes go over. you can’t tell us. There are several broad categories of such aliens. PP: So. the police cars go by. in my opinion.
DW: Thank you. they obviously run in family trees. nowadays when you talk to those people. BR: We probably all are in this room. I thought that was the case but I wanted that on record. Now. But. You’re crazy. KC: Absolutely. this is what we find. BR: Yeah. I would believe that.PP: No. They’re probably in that 15 percent.. very secluded. PP: Which. I talk to certain people and the 85 percent that I don’t seem to have a medical problem with. That was one reason. winding canyon. But it's very.e. mathematics and in history. The power that comes in here does have interference on it as well as it has information on it. but they’re pretty well distributed throughout all different cultures and races. as well as in my belief system. . secluded place with your laboratory which you are building to do your work. So the people watching this video are probably among the 15 percent. and that is: You made an allusion a few minutes ago to when you moved here nine years ago to be in a very quiet. we haven't really gotten into but I'm in an area that had two requirements for me and for some of the people who I do various things for that are not to be named. to me. directly. I’ve noticed that many people. again.. there’s so many places we can go from this conversation. PP: Well. when I talk to them about things that I know that are a fact in both science. would be. a confirmation that that probably did happen because why would someone come and select just one race or one family line? BR: So there’s black and white and red and. or it used to be that they’d be really interested and want to learn about it. here and now.. along family tree lines or family lines. Then the place that I chose here is kind of back in a little notch in the mountains. PP: Red and yellow and green and blue and whatever. informationally. when you’re done talking they don’t say: That’s crazy. so it’s even more secluded.. It's a deep valley with high mountains surrounding it in 360 degrees. or television. One of them is this area is very secluded from man-made electromagnetic radiation. [laughs] PP: When I talk to them. Matter of fact. i.. BR: Okay. [laughs] PP: We probably all are in this room. Interesting. So we don't really get radio here. it used to be that they would call me crazy. The entrance to it is through a very narrow long. as the last ten or twelve years have progressed. I am. the ones that have “normal” human DNA. What can you say about why you are here and why people who are elsewhere might one day wish that they were also here? PP: Well. I don’t believe it. They’re selfselective in many areas. that's something that. in our talks over the last day or so. I’ve found that. from what you’ve told me about the people that you deal with. KERRY CASSIDY (KC): How about your DNA? Are you one of those? PP: As far as I know. They come back into consciousness and start talking like you’d never said a word. BR: Don’t seem to understand what you’re talking about. but there’s something important which I want to grab.
and in politics and in economics.The other reason is it’s an area that’s very highly defendable. Right now I have very dear friends in China that are offering me mature T-bills and mature US bonds that they can’t seem to get cashed. if the world court system would enforce their eventual payment. Best I can tell. a number of things.. we’ve been printing not only billions. the same thing may be happening politically. One pry bar. or one stick of dynamite. The alternative-thought radio and television shows and motion pictures and books and movies are all fraught with the fact that something major is going to happen in 2010 or 2012 – the end of the Mayan calendar. and my being here is I’m in an area that.. The same thing happening politically. . have gone through a school system that hasn’t schooled them. And there are trillions of dollars worth. metaphorically. very active. 27 years old and younger. but trillions of dollars. they’ve all warned me that I should be at a place like this. BR: And.. People who’d come looking for food would probably come to an area like this. I’ve kind of. certainly. they don’t have an idea of what’s gone on. I’ll call it a meltdown.. indeed. They just seem. and a great number of them have expressed a desire to move here if they haven’t already moved here. BR: Uh-huh. and the belief of many other people that I have great respect for. has four seasons but it has a good growing season. a failure of the currency and ensuing political and certainly geopolitical meltdown. if you would. that had very heavy financial connections in major cities around the world have closed those offices down. come out of the closet because I think that the people that I find have. that the world is going through a. woman and child in the United States would have to work for four or five generations to pay them off. We all know that there’s got to be major volcanic activity under Yellowstone area because we can go up there and see the mud pots bubbling and Old Faithful geysering and smell the sulfur coming out of Hades. because if it’s geographical location. say. PP: Exactly. and certainly geo-economics. hasn’t trained them – obviously – because if you know anything about education. That was very important because of my belief.. There are areas up there where the ground has risen. The Yellowstone caldera is very. The people now that are. BR: And you mean here to this particular area? PP: Here to this particular area. Many people. It would be enough that. We’re going through a change. that they’re offering for 10 cents on the dollar. even those from Europe and other places. would shut access – not egress particularly – but it certainly would shut access off so that if there were. that. So you believe that there is something very important happening this year and this one of the reasons why you’re talking to us? PP: That’s one of the reasons why I’m talking. has very specifically not trained them and not schooled them in political science.. BR: What’s the connection between that and your being here? PP: Well. BR: Is there anything you can say about your belief of the likelihood of these events transpiring? PP: I’ve been lead to believe in numerous briefings and people that I know in fields that very definitely would know and so forth. Earth changes. every man. The area where I am exports both agricultural and meat product in far greater amounts than the people here would consume. My understanding is it’s risen about four feet. with nothing to back them whatsoever. this area would be very protected from large groups of people with no money and therefore no food and no energy and whatever.
I’ll dig potatoes. It had nothing to do with reasons of ethics or morality. otherwise we wouldn’t have had the last several Presidents that we’ve had. because the government was supposed to lie in the hands of the people. Ethics and morality were removed from the school systems 25 years ago. the people have just let that pass by: Oh. And yet we don’t even have any idea where it went or who has it. would this be a worldwide problem? I mean. it would be useful -. look back at James Burke's programs on Connections. So what happens is. It’s certainly not out there helping the economy. then in the first 90 days spent ten times as much. They had morality. We had a Second Amendment and the founders of our country. I mean. you know. it is a worldwide problem. in congressional testimony on television. said: We don’t have any idea where that money went. So they were taken from the school systems. in writing after the Constitution about where the Second Amendment came from. In your personal opinion. oh. but we certainly can’t tell you where seven trillion of it went. they could take control back. We have no idea. not that I believe that the people are smart enough to handle themselves. or six trillion of it went. The thing of it is – this is my opinion – but the Unions had to do something to get the Union members to pay their dues. like the collapse of the dollar. They don’t have an ethic. We’ve been dealing with a system now for. We can tell you where two billion of it went. and the only thing they really could do was increase their salaries. that means that ourselves and the next four generations of progeny are going to have to work their whole lives to pay this debt off. The white-collar people want to get white-collar wages. It’s like was said about the Irish when they moved into New York and into Boston: Everybody made money by taking in the neighbor’s wash. if we have a financial collapse. they’ve stolen from the blue-collar workers and stolen from the rest of the world by loaning them money and then taking all their natural resources at very low rates. This has happened all over the world. They want to work and get white-collar wages. It hasn’t just happened here. and for specific reasons. Now what people have been taught is that they’re owed a living. Now. let’s take a look at the Depression in the late ‘20s.. with its military. rather than wages that were consistent with their production so. of fiat money – money that’s backed with nothing. and if you can qualify that personal opinion. They’ve recently asked the service members if they would fire on civilians if they were asked to – which is entirely against the Constitution. We’d have actually had senators and . We’re seeing economies beginning to fail everywhere. we look at a President that complained entirely about all the money that the previous President spent. if this occurs. people would go out to farmland and knock on the farmer’s door and say: Ma’am. They specifically stated we had the right to keep and bear arms so that if the government. Now it was turned over to the Fed to spend it and the Fed. because we don’t have people that are willing to work and be blue-collar workers anymore. they’re owed to live like television says that people should live. because they’re not. didn’t say that we should have the right to keep and bear arms so that we could go get a deer and feed the family.what do you think may happen if there’s some tipping-point of social instability or financial instability that occurs before the end of this year? What can people expect? PP: Well. So in the ‘20s when we had a Depression. It had to do with political reasons. I’ll haul the weeds out of the garden. 70 years or better.You know. It’s going to be like today and you’re going to have anarchy and absolute chaos. We don’t have any idea. PP: Well.. they don’t have a morality. in essence. got out of hand and tried to suppress the Constitution and civilians. BR: Mm-hm. I got three little kids that need to eat and I’ll shovel manure. it won’t be like the ‘20s. People had ethics. The government knows that. BR: Sure. I’ll do whatever I need to do to get something to feed my kids. Now. So the Unions have increased their salaries to a point where the work has had to move off-shore. And.
What changed? PP: Up until a few days ago. or so much wheat.. we’d probably have a One World currency. Remember. that they couldn’t do what was necessary for the people as they were charged to do. so. the last four Presidents have all been members of the Council on Foreign Relations. up until a few days ago I would say it would’ve been replaced by a world currency. That’s my understanding that a number of them felt that. BR: Okay. Probably better not said. KC: But weren’t they told to. Up until a few days ago.. It leaked out. And that kind of says it all. Uh. BR: Is there anything you can say on record about a recent Congressional session that you attended? PP: Yes. so they could get out and put their tips out to the news. about once the financial system fails. once the people found out what had been done to them by their representatives. PP: That’s my understanding. well.. or suspect anything. like gold or silver or various metals... KC: George Green has given us testimony to that effect. you said.. United States and Canada almost as one government with three parts.congressmen thrown out because they wouldn’t do for us what was necessary. BR: Thank you. or so much of something that was a real. If we had a One World government. And the senators and congressmen had no option because we had so many splinter groups that they had to keep satisfied. BR: Mm-hm. We don’t have any confidentiality in that. what would it be replaced by? PP: Well. BR: Okay. We found that no matter where the politician was and what committee he was on. PP: Yeah. BR: Am I right in assuming that you wouldn’t contradict those leaks? PP: I wouldn’t contradict them at all... PP: Yeah. . they wanted to close the session early. PP: Just note that there was the third. weren't some of them getting out of the country to relocate in South America? Ask him that.. I understand. and have openly stated that they’re moving toward a One World government and believe we should have a One World government. I’m sure. so you could have a currency that was worth so much corn.. And it might even be they were smart enough to have a currency that was backed by something real. if it does so. I’ve always wanted to see a commodity-backed currency. the NAFTA and GATT agreements basically put us into a system where we had Mexico. BR: Sure.. Do you know anything. my understanding. they felt that it would be much better for their health and safety to be somewhere else. tangible thing. when top secret things were talked about.. it was the third-ever closed session of Congress. What changed was my understanding is now that they’re. KC: But it is on Google. I think many things have leaked out about it on Google.
different colors and different sizes for different denominations. etcetera.000 containers a day coming into the country that are never physically inspected. and was to be called something like the Amero for North America. well. with a very large food and feed company to build chips that could be used on prize cattle and breeding cattle. A lot of them are shipping. to geolocate them or to identify them. the money that’s being printed is funny money because it’s backed on nothing. It’s been rumored that that currency is being destroyed now and replaced by another U. especially out of Iran. for example. PP: There’s a problem tracking sea-land containers as well. Thank God the government has picked up a lot of these things later. That technology has now been reduced down to things that can be injected through a hypodermic needle into the body and identify people. there’s been so much counterfeiting. So you can look at some of our politics with Iran having to do with nuclear proliferation. back in the '70s.There was going to be a. and so much of it having to do with the fact that they have good printing presses and good duplicators of paper and ink. BR: Yeah. would go onto and off of that chip by a method similar to Bluetooth that's used today. if you would. There are a number of places that there's no explanation for.S.. A tremendous number of people are being kidnapped for ransom there. etcetera. and it’s rampant. We know that weapons of mass destruction. There’s been a tremendous amount of currency that we know has moved here from Iran that is counterfeit. both their own people and visitors. and show cattle. one of them very near where I live here that's very large-sized. we saw the dog food come in that was laced with Melamine. We spoke to him at length earlier on this year and one of the drums that he's been beating is about what he feels is the danger of the population being chipped as a means of control. but the containers – a lot of them are shipping contraband. because there’s nothing that’s a secret anymore – that would have currency. I was involved. BR: And this is technology which you yourself have helped develop! Is that what I heard you say? PP: Well. . but we know weapons of mass destruction are coming in in those containers. but very large concentration camps have sprung up. And that would make a lot of sense because there’s so much. or being kidnapped and held for ransom – not the least of which is around the Mogadishu area and in the Mediterranean. there are around 10.. BR: There's a problem tracking containers.. The currency that I heard about that was to be a One World currency was based on being chipped. I'm using right now in a product that I'm in the process of building for geolocation and antitheft because there's so many people being kidnapped and sacrificed for their organs. BR: Why is it important to track these containers? PP: Well. We know terrorists are coming in in those containers because we see the evidence of it afterward. it’s been highly rumored that there was a printed currency available – pictures available on the Internet. and it's technology which. You know. in it's smaller implementation. some of the early things. The credits. On the other hand. Can you comment on that at all? PP: There are a number of things to lead one to believe that they are going to be shipping people around. which is going to be linked with their ability to operate financially at all. But also. because it wasn't inspected. though this is not totally announced. it's technology that I developed. you know.. currency that is being printed. but also even in Mexico. Many people watching this video will be aware of what David Icke has been talking about.
in which the Powers That Be. You want to talk to Pete about this very important thing here. This is one of the reasons why he's here with us. You had mentioned before that people have a conditioning to not think. following their guidance. One of the things that he said was that the Superdomes that were built in all the major cities were intended to be large holding containers for people to be herded in. one in particular which was at the Montauk base. BR: It was a very good question. you had a question that you asked me just before the break and I think we're going to agree to disagree. that humanity will persevere through this and that we will be able to have a positive outcome on our own futures. say apocalyptic things are going to happen. and so the question is? DW: Well. in terms of. his perspective. his experience. So. yes. getting accurate information from that guidance. but it doesn't lead to an apocalypse scenario. So. and a conditioning of mind control. That's one of many different varieties of data that I've gotten to suggest that. So. while we were talking about all these things. and he had extensive contact with people on the inside. let me give you some prelude to that. or make that statement again. which includes documenting my dreams every day for the last 17 years. I think that's an important key to not getting stuck in this trap. I had a dream in which there was a volcanic eruption. you had mentioned that there were other dates that came and went where they had said something like this might happen. but go ahead and ask that question again. That was a plan that was made and it obviously did not happen. He said that there was a plan that the Rodney King riots would foment enough social upheaval that they would be able to actually round up black people who were rioting in the cities and put them inside these domes and basically keep them in there until they passed away. but we were all fine.. even though things look like they could be really austere and apocalyptic. DW: Sure. the question is. Obviously it was a disaster. PP: Well David.BR: Now. I think what we really need to know on a personal level is: What can we do to help ourselves not be indoctrinated by this passive programming that's coming out to us? You mentioned versions of mind control and things like that. There were rocks flying into the air and everybody around me thought we were all going to die. and just before that little interlude. Nobody was actually hurt by it.. we just did a tape change here. okay. What I wanted to say was just that I have a perspective. PP: Yes. his intellect. You said that there is a degradation in the moral fabric of our society. PP: I moved here because I was told by various people that I should geolocate and be in an area that would be . I spoke with another witness who was involved in various compartmentalized projects. we've heard from many Project Camelot witnesses’ similar plans. The dates come. obviously it had caused property damage. whoever they are. It was about prior warnings not having come to pass and therefore why should we be concerned? DW: Oh. the rocks fell all around us. this is all yours. We ran under these trees. in private conversation with us. responsible actions can we take without just blindfolding ourselves and ignoring whatever real risks that might be there? Now this is my bridge because I want David to ask his own questions. Yesterday morning. Some friends of yours inside told you something like that and then it didn't actually turn into a social breakdown. DW: Okay. positive-thinking. Yeah. David. strange things happen. David was very keen to ask Pete about his view about how can we transform these danger signs into something that is a healthy warning to us? What sorts of proactive. and that this is not a situation that's completely outside of our ability to manage. We have a huge respect for David. PP: I did say that. timelines. but the people were okay. It looked terrifying.
16 billion dollars was going to solve all the problems. I grow all my own meat. and We can take 16 billion dollars and put it out in. We've heard very dire things about the economic posture of the United States and the whole world. I mean. And it isn't just beginning to fail -. the actuality is coming to roost. So the things we've heard in the past about there going to be a failure. and we don't have any idea where that went. but life continued on as normal and the government continued to print money and pass it out to its friends and so forth. We see Iceland. People who are apocalyptic Christians say about the same thing. it didn't fail. collapse. before the current President took office. and it's closed. The question that David just asked is a little bit different. that the End Times are here or coming. of course. and very shortly.. Then it seemed like three weeks later we didn't know where the 16 billion dollars was even supposed to go or what for because they passed the bill without even knowing what was going to happen. a political. So. therefore. therefore. and the gross population [of] nearly. the large town that's about 50 miles south of me. which I can't imagine that it won't. well. all my own vegetables. we've heard that things are going to happen. in my personal opinion. BR: In fact. for example. things are going to fail.. I've put my money and my talent..it's increasing on a logarithmic scale. supposedly in the year 2011 or 2012. The big mall has closed. and we see things happening. We only had one mall in the town. All the stores that sell non-essential items – jewelry stores. currency fails. I have stored up those things that .. bed and bath stores. I moved here in 1999 because I was told [that] by 2001. that the system was going to fail. or nine years later. I drive around in the town that I live nearby. we just don't know. You know. This is something new. So now what we have is something that. BR: What you're saying is that we haven't been here before. and Please get this bill through. I see that it just about has to do that.. we found out that no. We have the huge collapse that when. and then we needed 20. And what I've done. etcetera – most of them have closed. The one mall that we had. the system had a lot more inertia than we anticipated.safe when we eventually got a financial and. declaring bankruptcy. I'd go for a briefing and they'd just be in shock: We don't understand it. and I drive around there and I look in the little malls and I look in the big malls. We don't have any idea why it hasn't failed. the time came and left and there wasn't a failure. something that they might do? And I can say: Well. I've come here and I'm self-sufficient.. The only thing we can do is say there was so much inertia.it's all beginning to come home and roost. The T-bills and bonds are coming back to us.S. When the U. ranging from the fact that. because we've printed so much currency and put out there that's backed by nothing -. And here we are eight years later. That 16 billion dollars disappeared immediately. So there're certain things that I've done to make sure that myself and my family and my friends are safe from that. And it barely passed and we got that through.. all of a sudden we needed seven or nine trillion dollars. where my mouth is. and I hear from people that I know in the banking system that a number of the European states are going to follow them in bankruptcy. now it's beginning to fail. having to do with the fact that numerous ones of us have heard a bit apocalyptic things in the future. the people that had the mall failed and went bankrupt. And. we have the end of the Mayan calendar and we have an apocalypse coming. 750.000 people.. PP: So we haven't really ever been here before. but this money was pumped somewhere. So. you were ordered to come here. you know. Which then brings us back to the first question that David asked just before the break was: What do I see that we could offer the listeners out there. my skills and my abilities. PP: I was. we're in a bit different set of circumstances. and I can't see what's going to happen there. And now. Sporting goods stores. most of them have closed. So.
In the last couple of winters. the weather is changing. Now the ethics and morality has been taken away from the children. it was a year until it got delivered... I have a number of vehicles that I now have -. all those people couldn't leave town because they got out on the freeway and the freeway was jammed.are going to be critical to society.. You've got the debacle that occurred in New Orleans. Nobody got to use them. emotional preparation. and I can tell you that – we got into that a little bit earlier – I can tell you that today there isn't any such thing as urban survival. Every year they have floods. I've picked up the tools that I didn't have that allow me to do things in such an environment and such a society to produce things that are going to be necessary for people to have. I knew people that were getting water to New Orleans that had been ordered. and I started the book out. That was how well the government was prepared for that. and they found out they were made with the wrong materials and they were out-gassing toxic things.engines that'll burn alcohol. who was a wise squirrel and put something up. say. and now some of them have a couple children. I think it's changing to the colder rather than the warmer. whatever people's circumstances are? PP: Well. The people that owned the service stations left to get out of town also.. and they go back and they rebuild their houses with lots of insurance money. my tummy hurts. Forget the political-economic situation. What are you going to do when your kids say: Daddy. Take a look at just the things that have happened. What would you tell them? PP: Well.cooking a couple of freeze-dried steaks? You have to ask yourself: What would that person do? BR: Okay. Then we've had water from it. and you smell him out on his barbeque . We don't have a community that would do that. we've had two-to-three times the snow that we had the previous ten years. Then you look at the people that live along the Mississippi River and its feeding tributaries. Let's take a look at things that have happened in this country over the last.because he's got no power but charcoal . and then you've got the next debacle that occurred in Texas and Mississippi. And you smell the next door neighbor over there. and then they have floods the next year. The weather is changing. and we have people that have children. spiritual preparation.. . Everybody got stopped and they ran out of gas and there wasn't any gas. PP: Exactly right. I've taught survival for better than 40 years and my particular area of expertise in survival was urban survival. very definitely. and I hear what you're saying but what can I do? I'm not in that situation. It's changing right here where I live. Who knows their neighbors? In '29 people knew their neighbors and they had ethics and morality.. major. BR: Now. Is there something that you can speak to about that. so there wasn't anything for the service stations. They've had floods virtually every year. the things had already decayed. But there are a lot of psychological operations that have been put in place in preparation for all of this. I have the equipment and I have the seeds and I have the tractor. and I have the land and I have the water to grow material that I can make alcohol from at a much larger rate than I need. But by the time they got where they could've put them down there. You look at New Orleans. I was asked to write a book about urban survival. and you got to see that. and the children are now in their 20s and 30s. There were people who got thousands and thousands of trailer-houses that were stuck in the Midwest and never got shipped down there. BR: The community's gone. no. PP: The community is gone. but first I want to suggest that. I will do that. but anyway. They saw it coming and saw it coming and saw it coming – nothing happened. BR: And you can even make your own radio and probably fuel your own truck. and there's mental self-defense or mental preparation. I haven't had anything to eat for two weeks. tremendously so. a lot of people listening to this will say: But I'm in the middle of a big city. I've got a wife and a mortgage and two kids who are at school. four or five years.
the radio stations are going to be down – if you don't have a way of communicating outside of those. some of those people went to survival lectures that I gave and they had copies of their driver's license. and in California. and in other states. where there are not problems. Just a small bag. These are things that people can do to assure continuity even though there may be something coming. one of the things I do is. and immediately someone says: Oh. It's very interesting to understand. And now it's clear full and spilling over. in summary. it's like having a bag over your head. BR: So. If you had an amateur radio license. copies of their insurance papers. but we hear the people that actually are predicting those things predicting very large earthquakes. if they have to leave their homes. you're saying that as a scientist and as an intelligent man. there are a number of things that one could do to become aware. PP: I think that there's a major real problem and I think that people who don't see that. go look for it. hardly a trickle. And yet. You can see where to go. huge reservoir that holds enough water to irrigate the whole southern state for a year or two. We had droughts for a number of years. You're not going to have gasoline in your car. It was months. But at least we see that in major areas of the country there've been problems where people needed to have a little supply of food left because they couldn't get to a store. you only need to have three days storage. it's like you had eyes. If you had a short-wave radio or an amateur radio. before they had effort come in. They had to fend for themselves. time after time after time over just the last four or five years.. where there are riots. that's what they're trained to do. and don't realize that. . Like in the area that I'm in. and carry on and go there. you think that there's a real problem. And everybody takes their bag off and says: Well that's no fair! He didn't have a hood on! And I say: Okay. I think that what they should do is think: You know. maybe there's something to this. simply have put blinders on. where there's problems. but they know it's going to come. They don't know if it's going to be next year or the year after. you could listen to the radio amateurs who are going to be immediately there because that's what they're set up for. copies of their marriage license. You're not going to know what roads have police that are not allowing people to go through. So I do that and then I say: Okay. You're not going to know what roads are blocked. If you had a bug-out bag in your car you'd have gas and fuel and medical supplies.major water problems. They need to have things that. especially. Whoever finds it gets to keep it. all packed up ready to go. So. and it's been absolutely dry in the bottom. which anybody can get these days. And when they left home and they came back and they're crying on television: Oh. Some are small and some are larger. Everything's gone. so let's say that there's a big earthquake or a big emergency. which are very inexpensive. People have been moved out of their homes. they know it's going to be large. especially. Why don't these people have what's called a bug-out bag in their car where they could take off and leave the area? The government says: Oh.. things to keep you cool. copies of all the things they needed to have copies of. major fires that have gone on.. things to keep you warm. I live near a huge. I have it. When I teach a survival class. and found out the government didn't have anything for them. There've been major. But we look at where the government's come in. as somebody who is wellconnected on the inside with other scientists and other intelligent men. sometimes. and if you don't have a way of communicating – because the cell phones are going to be down. Then I tell them: I'm going to place a ten dollar gold piece somewhere in the room and have you all look for it. I found it. everything's gone. where there are not riots. right at the beginning of the class I put a velvet bag over people's head. They had extras of all the children's pictures and extras of the journals and so forth put away in another location.. they know people are going to lose things. California? We hear predictions about earthquakes all the time and we see earthquakes all the time. here it is.
while. A lot of the things that you've shared with us already. . How can this be reversed? How can that be aided? I want to make sure that David gets a chance to answer his own questions. You’ve also suggested there are efforts to suppress our natural ability that have been put in place and I think that. and that this situation. If they have some way. In fact. maybe that would be important to hear. so much the better. that may or may not happen. We know they're out there. and I know one thing: There's one person I can rely on and that's me. we really agree and I think we're both saying that one should do both. one of the things that I did in studying survival was I went to numerous places on the face of the Earth where there were survival-type things taking place. as you said. we know they're visiting us. off the record. strangely enough.. certainly. PP: Well. absolutely. I have things I can share with others. it does happen and you don't have any worry. whether it be eruption of volcanoes. What I'm trying to do is support you in that and I want to give you air time here. People have to take responsibility. in my opinion. or even a few minutes can be the difference between life and death. something you can share with us. We also. preparations for the sake of survival. So I would just as soon spend a little time and a little effort and a little money. but if you believe in yourself and follow up. you mentioned to us before that a lot of them are positive. a crisis time that we go through but that's part of a passage into a more organized and enlightened society. and I do believe that society itself is going through an evolutionary process. I found out that the people that survived were the people that were prepared. Some were prepared mentally. I found out that a few days or a few hours. PP: Well. DW: Yeah. I do believe that we have an intelligently-guided planet. There will be. I don't dispute that at all. That's how it's been explained by many different accurate sources.BR: There’s a lot that has been done to dumb down the population. whether it be tornadoes and tsunamis. actually. so that they have an ability to get in touch with that part of themselves that does have the knowledge – you've mentioned remote viewing before. DW: There is a compartment of reality that we can talk about in which people are on this planet and there are forces that appear to be almost outside their control to do anything about other than. That's the problem. preparing is important. I've gone to those places studying survival. there appears to be a greater reality that we are all involved in. reveal that there are potentials of the human being much greater than what we currently understand. not make them worse. you don't have to rely on somebody else. In fact. including ancient prophecies that speak of the coming of a Golden Age. What's been taken out of people over the last 20 years is response-ability. a way in which people can greater empower themselves to the greater awareness that they actually possess and how that could help them through these transitional times. and all the rest is conjecture. My understanding is that the situations we're going through are going to be instrumental in helping to purge the negative influences on this planet that have been prevailing for so long. have interviewed enough different witnesses that we are trying to look at the big picture perspective. While I don't believe they're going to just come down and save us from problems. But I know that when you believe in other people. because then you don't have to rely on anything. and that's the major preparation that you could do. And if other things happen. too. I think anything you can tell us about how people can strengthen their intuitive faculty. and be able to take care of myself and my people. at Project Camelot. I do believe that the things that happen on the planet are not random. Then we also have another context which is that you are apparently directly aware of extraterrestrials who are not strictly negative. I am very well prepared for eventualities in myself.. whether it be genocide in Africa.
go take a look at the prices in the store. Take your pick. and Tennessee. He certainly is an intelligent speaker. I know that when he got his first briefing. people that are saying such things. On the other hand. everybody knew where they were. and there are things that they can do. major prophets. prophets of record such as Nostradamus and so forth. The car was full of gas with a little trailer with a couple of gas cans and a tent. Because if we have a collapse. So. where gold will just get you robbed – or silver. But none of it. if you would. and all the religions. that were in the river areas in Ohio and Nebraska and so forth. Of course. there are things that people can do to do that. I have to say he can't be very intelligent. I can't imagine anyone accepting the job of President with the current situation. in your opinion? PP: Uh. and the prices five months ago. $2. And I know that's the direction to get out of town. it's going to be worth far more than gold because it'll save your life. You know. It's like I stuck my hand in the air to volunteer and got a hiccup in my rotator cuff and my hand just stayed up and I ended up volunteering for everything. Or they're going to say: Oh. They were all in one place. There are a number of remote viewing courses and many of them are very good. All their family records were preserved. People should have those skills. and all their family jewels and things. [Kerry laughs] Everybody thought I was volunteering. I know that there are a number of people that were students of mine that were in New Orleans. have said: Take responsibility and prepare yourself. I know that all of them. he was a debate king. such as the prophets of Mohammedanism. If a disaster comes. But I said besides remote viewing I know one thing that's certain. or whether they're not correct. And that is: How much does Obama know about all of this. get yourself a wheelbarrow and if you come to my place and want a loaf of bread and you've got an ounce of gold that's worth. I tell people if you're going to save gold. I'm just suggesting that that is a very wise thing to do on a day like today. whether the prophets of doom are correct. save some silver.. the traffic's flowing just fine. Well. [laughs] That's a strange question. the experience. and so I got stuck into a number of different things. I'll swap it for a loaf of bread. [laughter] If you've got a quarter. That's not necessarily true because the knowledge. just simply threw a bag in the back of their car and headed out and they were fine. BR: Right. he's an intelligent man.. all the cars are stopped and they're not letting people through. was by accident.000. that were in the Gulf area of Texas. I'm basically a warrior because that's kind of my path and I've noticed that there isn't anybody out there in this world that's taking care of me except me. It's almost a matter of duty. BR: Sure. It's even better than gold. PP: So. They should go out and practice those and I know that your group has been superb in providing evidence and providing a website that's a fantastic website where they can go and look and find out people that are talking about such things. I can't imagine that. said that he was so shocked . that by that time is worth three dollars – a non-numismatic silver quarter – I'll swap it for a loaf of bread. Every one of those. it's better than any investment you could've made. at that time. the prophets of Christianity. and tell me you wouldn't like to buy five-months-ago’s food. The things that David’s talking about to prepare are exactly correct. as I look back on it. And they were fine. the intellect. I’d suggest you do remote viewing. for crying out loud. or today's food at five-months-ago’s prices.Over the millennia. Let's say you put aside five months worth of food. threw them in the car and off they went. It's better than any stock I know of. when it comes. when the time came. because I had friends that were present. you know. I can take my little ham radio and I can pick it up and I can call on the ham radio repeater and I say: What's the traffic like on Route 17 going out through Palmdale? And somebody's going to say: Oh. A lot of people would want us to ask this question. the people that we've considered major. the vast experience that I have has been handed to me on a silver platter. in that respect.
I have heard that the current President was planning to make such announcements later in the year. kind of through the grapevine. Now.. I've heard.. just using that turn of phrase. There might be some kind of Divine providence that would help as well. There are many people that left the military. or late in the year. who themselves are patriots as you are. I know that the current President. PP: Absolutely. I know that Reagan was asked to disclose such things. would you confirm that there are good people. BR: And these are the people who are keeping you informed sometimes. and a number of the science fiction things that have come out recently as movies have been partially funded by the government wanting to get familiar in our minds the idea there might be people that could come and help us. in the government and the intelligence and the military. BR: Now. speaking about having good people with him. I'm kind of an idea man and they call me and ask me: What might we do here. there were many people that stayed behind because they knew they were going to be needed.. This was before he took the office. because it's behind him and it's coming on. BR: Mm-hm. PP: I mean. I don't think he has a hint how to stop the flood. who we have euphemistically called the White Hats. and they were the true patriots because they did what was best for the people rather than what was best for themselves. DW: Do you think there's ever going to be a Disclosure? That any of this stuff about UFOs or other races not born on Earth would ever get out to the public? PP: It's interesting.. BR: I understand. On the other hand. He has a few really good people around him.. and he's being driven by it and there's not much he can do. and he's just paddling with his hands as fast as he can paddle and trying to do the very best job that he can. KC: Are you willing to say the date and that information that you. And I know there was pressure put to bear on both of them to say nothing. PP: That's where they thought they would be most valuable. PP: I'm basically a problem solver.that he had to sit down when he found out what really was happening. the truth about flying saucers and alien people. Most of the good people left during Clinton and Bush because they couldn't pledge allegiance to the President because of the things that were being done.. I think that he's found himself in a river that's flooded and headed south and he's got a little boat with no oars. [laughs] PP: And steep canyon walls. BR: That's where they thought they would be most valuable. not principle. and they're trying to do their best from the inside to avert these things. BR: And very steep canyon walls. Is that right? PP: Some of those people are the people that are keeping me informed.. and what might we do there? BR: Because you're above all a problem solver and a technological.. but they had a higher knowledge and stayed behind so that they could ply the knowledge that they had when the time came. I know that JFK was asked those things and said he would do something. it's more that they're keeping me informed because they call me for ideas. I really don't believe he has a hint how to stop what's happening. so many people left. They sacrificed. I've been told that a number of the apocalypse films that have come out recently. that. . I don’t know this.
the man hasn't told me himself. if the guy doesn't obey those orders. reporting contact with the little guys with the almond-shaped eyes and the big heads. I have no idea. BR: Then. I don't know. he may find himself in trouble. there's a reptilian type... if you go back and look at the number of people who seem to have seen such people.S.PP: I know a date I was told. it's pretty obvious.. KC: But he's under orders. And I may be wrong. though. And tens of thousands. You were saying that he may announce something at the end of the year? What would that be? What does your grapevine tell you? PP: My grapevine tells me that he is going to announce that there are indeed such things as flying saucers. and there's a long-face type and a round-face type and a tall type and a short type and. Then for the next bunch there's maybe 40 or 50 in Russia and 25 or 30 in Germany. at all? PP: I really don't. currency would fail in 2001 when they ordered me to move here. DW: About the announcement. PP: So who knows what's going to happen? But I've heard that his desire. and I can tell you the same people that told me that date told me that the U. I've heard it through the grapevine. whether the person that told me would know. and 20 people in Germany and 300 people in Brazil and 80 people in Africa say this. It's 50 people in the U. BR: Yeah. Whether the President would know. you have people doing exact descriptions and large amounts of exact descriptions. who many people say are responsible for abductions. BR: Okay. we're getting into speculation here that. and there is indeed beings behind it that didn't come from this planet. isn't he? He's just the front guy. and there is indeed technology transfer. if not hundreds of thousands. I have no idea. and people have no real communication with each other. KC: How many different kinds? PP: I. You were working up to an announcement. you get kind of a: Well. KC: Do you want to talk about who’s behind him. But a number of them. three or four. You know. PP: He may find himself in trouble. Do you know anything about that at all? .. say.. PP: Again.. It isn't just like one person said this and one person said that. I have no idea. PP: You know. BR: Good.. If you go back and take a look at it.S. from totally disparate regions that have no real communication.. You know. BR: Okay. PP: My feeling is that we haven't had a President since right after George Washington that wasn't under orders from someone else. BR: Understand. Whether we even know. more than. you can't discount all of those things when.
it was inertia only that carried it on. Where does the $7.000. They then rent those dollars to the bank. I can't see why the dollar didn't crash in 2001. 2001. and keep on going to the movies. Absolutely! And the problem is that people have been taught that if you just stick your head in the sand and don't look. and keep on. Now. There are many videos on Google that people can watch on this very subject and get educated.3 trillion dollars – the day before September 11. not only were bogus dollars. Now that's $10. about money that was “lost” in the military budget to the tune of 2. How can they pay back more than there ever was? And people don't understand the concept of fiat money! KC: Right. It was inertia. BR: Are any of these abductions military operations? PP: I wouldn't have any idea. you know. It was out of the wind pattern. Let’s look at what happened on September 11th. I don’t want to prompt somebody to go look for it because I know what I feel they’d find. i. And sure. [laughs] A building that wasn’t even involved crashed to the ground. and why did that building fall down? KC: Well.. PP: Keep on watching American Idol. Many of them seem to me to have read somebody else's report and then they wanted to be in the thing and made it up.e. let's say – we’ll use just round figures – let’s say that there's $1. what that means is they've taken a thousand – and if they have $1. Okay. and there are a number of other things.] PP: Look. The Fed issues $1. Because.000 issued. do you know the answer? PP: Well. .000.000. BR: You don't know. whatever. you know. it isn't going to bite you..000. So let's say you have ten percent interest on $17. and in the basement of it was stored a massive amount of gold. BR: Keep on watching American Idol and you'll be all right. the banks are allowed to loan out $17. [laughter] Okay? Never found! And why would that building fall down? Not even ashes fell on it. PP: Where did that money go. So is that in anyway related to what you’re talking about with the year 2001? PP: Probably is. They say: We'll rent this out to you and it'll be at five percent interest. [Ed note: video splice begins here. I think what they’d probably find is an early grave.000. dollars that were printed with nothing behind them. Because it was backed with nothing. What does the bank do? The bank rents those dollars out to people so they can by a car. There is footage that you can see of an announcement that Rumsfeld made on September 10th. dollars that didn't even exist! People fail to look at this fact. You saw how they manipulated billions and billions of dollars that didn't even. okay? Who issues the dollars? The Fed issues the dollars – totally outside of the Constitution. in my opinion. there were a lot of people behind the scenes manipulating various things. absolutely couldn't see why it didn't crash.000 come from to pay it back? It wasn't ever issued. whatever. DW: Right.PP: All I know is that I've talked to a number of those people and many of them seem to me to be very credible. DW: I'd like to say one thing. PP: Yeah. I think I know the answer but I don’t know that I’m convenient with giving that answer. If. It was never found.000 plus another $7. It didn't ever exist. as far as I'm concerned. a home.
BR: By now people watching this video will understand why we were so keen to introduce Pete to this audience, and will understand what we were saying when we referred to twelve hours of off-record conversation yesterday, that we haven’t even begun to bottom out even so. What we’re able to provide here is only a very short summary of some of the things which Pete knows. So, with apologies, we’re going to move on because we’ve only got a certain amount of time and a certain amount of tape, to other areas because there’s an extraordinary amount of experience and information which you may want to share. Let me, first of all, ask you if you’re willing to share any of your experience about working with Russian scientists, and in what capacity you did that? PP: Yes, I’d be more than happy to do that... [sighs] some of it, at least. After the fall of the Wall, I went to Russia and worked with a number of top scientists there that were involved in their space program. BR: And you went to Russia, let me say euphemistically, in a professional capacity? PP: In a professional capacity. I came by invitation and went there. One of the things we did was, we took – and I’m going to use Russia in general terms, meaning the old Soviet Union. BR: The U.S.S.R. PP: I went to various countries that were at one time part of the U.S.S.R. I was there, for example, when Ukraine declared their independence, and I knew the man who was the first president there. So we took out of the U.S.S.R. a lot of technology that had been pent up, and brought back, and donated it to the government here. I got to see brilliant, brilliant, brilliant technology that – some we knew about, some we had, and some we didn’t have, specifically in materials science and in things that could be used to generate alternative energy. New ways of building motors, new types of materials for building motors and spacecraft. Motors and spacecraft. New ways of storing electricity in capacitors which would be very handy in making electric automobiles, meaning that you could take all the energy that normally is sent to the air as heat and braking and put that energy into a capacitor device which would then bleed off into a battery and recharge the battery of the car to a certain extent. BR: Did the technology behind the Aurora come from the Russians? PP: No. That technology was invented specifically right here in the United States by a scientist that I, in my memory, worked for General Dynamics for a period of time, and probably worked for Rocketdyne or General Atomic for a period of time. Remember, General Atomic was highly disturbed when Lyndon Johnson refused to give them any more government contracts unless they’d move from San Diego to Texas. BR: Mm-hm. But the Aurora’s been moth-balled anyway because that’s old technology, isn’t it? PP: Well, I would assume that. But it was a technology where you spray gas out through a surface and then explode the gas; mix it with oxygen and explode it. It’s like push-shooting a pumpkin seed. The pressure, external, would push against it and push it forward at very high rates of speed. They’re very efficient. BR: Okay, so... [laugh] That was our 60-second sound byte about the Aurora, which is worth an interview in itself. But go back to what you feel that we learned from the Russians, because we had some fascinating conversations about this. PP: Well, we learned an awful lot about material science. There was a man by the name of I. M. Frenchovic
[unclear] that was a believer in quantum physics. So he wouldn’t hire anybody – this was in the late ‘50s or mid-50s – he wouldn’t hire anybody for his institute that didn’t absolutely believe in quantum physics. So a lot of the work they did was based on quantum physics and we hadn’t quite decided whether that was real or not. Whether it was real or not, they came up with a lot of things that were very interesting. Additionally, they were doing a lot of research work in such areas as remote viewing and telekinesis and such things. We learned a lot. We brought a number of people out from there that taught us things. This was a very interesting thing that happened in the Soviet Union. If you look at their government, it’s kind of a three-branch party system. You have the people from industry, the people from government, and the people from the political pedagogy, so that to get the full vote you had to have someone vote that it wasn’t in violation of Stalinist-Leninist political dogma. A lot of science was definitely outside of Stalinist-Leninist political dogma, therefore the scientists were very frustrated and so there was a lot of information they were willing to give out because their government had told them it was baloney anyway so why not give it away? They wanted to see their ideas and thoughts utilized. Secondly, there were a lot of them that, one way or another, snuck out and came to work for the West and brought a lot of very good information, including a lot of the very basic things that were happening in what we’ll call psychic phenomena or mental talents. It really isn’t that. It’s actually a definite science and there’s a lot of technology that’s behind it. We hear a lot of stories about that from the government, a lot of past history that’s, much of it, disinformation. We’re told that: Well, we learned a few things from it but it wasn’t particularly good. I think that that’s very wrong because I know it’s particularly very good and I can’t imagine that they’re not using that kind of technology. Additionally, we learned a tremendous amount of things about outer space technology. We learned a lot about the amount of radiation that you find outside the ionosphere and the problems that that causes. We had some problems with our early astronauts because we didn’t know what was there. Notice there were several lulls in our space program as we found out new things, and then geared up to take into account the malevolence of outer space. You know, out of that came a lot of conjecture that there was way too much radiation for us to have had people in outer space. One of the things that very much interested me was when the Mir Space Station was crashing. They were worried about the fact that it had a little radioactive material on it that might cause problems on Earth and they didn’t know exactly where it was going to fall. But one of the things the Soviets announced... and one of the things I do is I listen to short wave, because when you listen to short wave, you hear about the same event, the same people, the same place, the same time, and a completely different story of what went on there. [laughter] So the press in the United States is either completely ignorant or it’s completely controlled, as far as I can tell. But one of the things the Soviets did was announce the weight of the Mir station. When you look at that weight, you find out it was about 5,600 shuttle loads of material. They didn’t launch that much, we didn’t launch that much, so why would the Mir weigh as much as it did? The explanation is, which you can find out for yourself if you merely take a sensitive Geiger counter on a plane flight, is how much radiation is up there just at 30,000 feet. You’re allowed one or two chest X-rays a year; you get a chest X-ray every two or three minutes out there, you know, that was a problem. If you look at some of the symptoms of problems some of the early astronauts had, you’d realize that it probably was radiation poisoning. BR: How did the mass that constituted all that extra shielding...
PP: My feeling is that the extra mass that was there on that station was shielding. BR: How did it get up there? PP: That’s an interesting question. I didn’t see us launch anything that could’ve taken it there. BR: Did the Russians launch it there? PP: Not that I know of. I mean, you’ve seen the... BR: Okay. Now, what that implies, then, is that we could never have made it to the Moon in the way that it had been advertised that we went to the Moon because everyone would’ve been fried. Is that too simplistic a conclusion? PP: Well, that’s my conclusion. I mean, I know one thing. You can go to look at the Moon diorama at Jet Propulsion Laboratory and you can ask the question: Was the Lander pressurized with oxygen? They said: No, we didn’t have a place for it. They had to wear their spacesuits. And here’s the astronaut standing there with his spacesuit on, and here’s the door to the Lander open, and you can see that that spacesuit wouldn’t fit through that door without the astronaut in it. [laughter] BR: Right. PP: So I did have a bit... You know, there’s a bit of speculation there. BR: What we’ve been told by our witness Henry Deacon is that some of the Apollo missions did actually go to the Moon, but not without help from our friends, as it were. Can you make any comment on that, or is this..? PP: Well, it’s my feeling as a scientist that, if we went to the Moon, we had to have help from friends. KC: And off-world friends, you’re talking about? PP: I'm talking about... BR: We’re talking about friends in high places. [laughs] PP: ...friends in high places. From high places. BR: But we do have friends in high places, do we? PP: Far as I know. BR: Do we have any enemies? PP: Far as I know, we do. I mean, there’ve been malevolent things happening all over the world that... You know, you can’t deny cattle mutilation and you can’t deny some personal, or human, mutilation; or, certainly, biomedical manipulation. I mean, it’s happened. Somebody did it, and it could have been done from here. But when you examine that... You know, Linda Moulten Howe has written extensively and spoken extensively on these things, and examined them extensively. I grew up with her in the same school system and the same town and know that she was exceedingly bright, and got brighter and brighter as time went by. I don’t doubt that a lot of her conclusions are correct conclusions. She’s someone that I would absolutely trust in that. You know, I say if something happens in one spot, you don’t know. But when something happens time after
It could well have been. BR: Okay. what’s the probability that it just happened spontaneously? And the probabilities are approaching zero. all the testimony we’ve received from a lot of people.. in all different kinds of locations where people don’t know each other and don’t communicate with each other and don’t read each other’s newspapers and it doesn’t make the press. BR: So they’re being helped and supported.and microelectronics that we have from anyone that I know of here on this planet. I try to figure the probabilities of things. Many of them. let me use the word. when they were taken out. an electronics genius.. PP: I think there are people here. . it seems highly likely that those things happened. PP: They’re being helped and supported. what would this mean? From a probability standpoint. from somewhere. make observations and feel the probabilities: Well. were minutely dissected. BR: Our experience would support that.time. They were not random things. Are you in possession of any information about the constitution of implants that have been recovered from abductees? PP: Well. miraculously. or maybe a kidnapping and manipulation. I’ve talked to people who have removed what they felt were implants. Being as I got involved in quantum physics early. They’re devices that signals could be obtained from that were obviously intelligent signals. BR: That’s really incredible. and I’ve seen them saved from disease. Now. it appears. BR: Mm-hm. you feel that wasn’t a particularly friendly thing to do? PP: I have no idea. observational point of view.. or most of them. I deal almost daily with nanoelectronics and microelectronics. I wouldn’t doubt but what we’ve had that from both sides. There are people that I felt had crucial knowledge to the perpetration of the planet the way we’d like it to be. year after year. It’s just interesting to hear your view. if I may. PP: I’ve never seen anything in writing that would lead me to believe that we had that kind of technology on this planet. I knew that some of them. from a really unbiased. But they had had some incident that they seemed to have a memory of that we would call maybe an abduction. the implant acted like it was alive and moved through the body away from the surgeon trying to remove it. I try to look at everything from a scientific viewpoint. and yet it was biological material that had obviously been engineered for a specific purpose. among many other things you are. What’s the probability that we had something that would do this? Probabilities are zero or very low. BR: I understand. are biological in nature. and I’ve seen the pictures of that. This is something we didn’t even talk about yesterday. I know that one doctor who's removed a number of what they felt were implants. Friends and enemies. which is something that deals a lot with probabilities. When we’re talking about friends or enemies in high places. PP: Well. they were not biological things. and the descriptions and pictures I’ve seen have nothing to do with any nano..
99 percent region. Now that electromagnetic theory allowed us to build motors and generators. eventually. electric generators. which I liken to a window that you could peek through just a few holes in the window.. Here’s something I believe. that he hadn’t done any experiments in. there’s a tremendous amount of research being done in that. right.What’s the probability that it might have come from some outside intelligent source? The probabilities are up in the. So. radio transmitters. Sorry. physicists and so forth and became those motors and televisions and so forth. etcetera. I can say that Maxwell was right. it literally went through some sub-universe or parallel universe. I went and replicated most of the papers. or actional communication at a distance. MIT knows if they talk about it... radio and television receivers.? PP: James Clerk Maxwell. that really hasn’t happened. they continued to take a look at them. And it didn’t travel. that people did look at. etcetera. Here’s something I’ve experimented on and so forth.. So.? PP: Well. information could be sent from point A to point B faster than the speed of light. in Canada and in Belgium and in France and in some areas in the United States.. but. for example. [laughs] Then. There’s a lot of the area that was still white. From a little bit of his work. never. You told us about. When does it become a reasonable certainty? Yeah. So. He said: Here’s something I saw.which could be clear across the universe – something could. it’s something that’s been known at MIT. experience or. BR: Yeah. the way I like to describe his work. . over a period of time. most of the letters that went back and forth. but there were a lot of various areas where he actually did something and had experiments that were repeatable and were.. early on. electric motors. it was never written about. Is this something which you're able to talk about at all? Do you have any opinions. One of the things that got out. BR: This is James. and each time you peek through you see something different. most of the notebooks. I’ve done a number of experiments and I definitely have opinions. you know. And he took the end of a paintbrush and dipped it in paint and made splotches all over this white sheet of paper. Henry told us about his research work in what some people call signal non-locality. which meant that something happened in point A. Just now. One of the things I found out was. maybe I’m on the right track here.. engineers.. But what happened to all the other swatches? Many of them were never. the knowledge was never continued. So then he took one large bunch of these and he wrote electromagnetic theory around that. after you see one after another after another of these. was a thing called action at a distance. and I started looking at some of these other things. etcetera. and at point B . it’s like you took a white sheet of paper. but they want to know that if Harvard says something that they can say: We’ve known about it for years.. instantaneously and with no energy required. you know. So that was passed on down through a line of scientists. describable. you begin to think.. computers. who wrote the first exposition of electromagnetic theory. television transmitters. if not explainable.. One of the Holy Grails of physics is to build a working device such that there can be instantaneous communication that can traverse light years in no time. So now you have a white sheet of paper with a lot of splotches. for many years. There was a gentleman that I had met [on] several occasions that ran a kind of an Anomalous Research Institute that found that these things that kind of violated the pet laws of physics.. let me start this again. We’ve just mentioned the testimony from our witness and colleague Henry Deacon and now you’ve talked about your experience working with quantum physics. etcetera. from A to B. they got to back up and say: All the physics we’re teaching isn’t exactly correct.. the Internet.
we’re going to have a practical technology. which it would be. or such little energy that it’s inconsequential. If you have something that works that doesn’t use electromagnetic radiation. because I have a lot of work that I’ve done and ideas that I’ve done and I now need to build a prototype. Or Internet that works that way.been involved with trying to build flying saucers – you usually found with flying saucers. PP: The problem is. exactly right. probably nothing.a lot of that stuff wasn’t brought out. I know that. what you’re doing is altering the. Like. he said to me: As the dog said -.. how do you tune it? When you tune a radio. as we possibly can do. I’m going to thank you very much for the conversations we’ve had both yesterday and today. BR: Okay.. We may have a practical technology or not.so many trees and so little time. We’re still on tape. So how can you transmit more than one signal at a time? Then. All the transcripts that you find on both sites have been provided by the Transcription Team for the last several years.. you have to develop a whole entirely-new technology. BR: As Hal Puthoff once said to me – somebody who I believe you once knew – is. imagine a cell phone that’ll work anywhere in the universe with no energy. I’m going to hand over to Kerry with the microphone and camera. I remember that Henry Deacon said that he had actually worked on these devices. So. at this point... David also wants to ask you some questions about his particular interests and we want to make sure that we can capture all of this. We are like ants: we may be hidden.mostly ego.. I don’t necessarily want to expose that information because. It’s how to tune something that doesn’t have a time function. once I get my lab built. We’ve got some time left here today. BR: What can you say about whether there were any practically functioning devices built that were able to utilize this theoretical principal of communication or action at a distance? PP: Ah. He said that the work had been done at Livermore prior to Alanaspects [unclear] experiments in Paris in the ’80s. with huge reluctance. BR: Okay. The problem’s with practical. but we create clean transcripts for your enjoyment and pondering. PP: Thank you very much for your interest.. BR: Okay. if that actually worked and was something that could be repeated. I mean. [music fades in] .** . PP: Now here’s the problem. PP: [laughs] Exactly right. that they better revise their thinking. And right now I’m going to hand over to Kerry. I’m going to get out from behind this camera. not that it’s going to be a billiondollar product. BR: So. because I’d love to talk to you for hours more. Click here for the video interview **Transcript provided by the hard-working volunteer members of the Divine Cosmos/ Project Camelot Transcription Team. For one reason or another -. if you look at most of the movies there always seems to be a robot involved with it.. when you said practical.But they knew that. political or economic -. I hope we’re going to get this opportunity later.
this normal process was not able to proceed forward. They’re in the field where those cognitive processes take place. DW: I’d like to double click on that and get more information on that link. though I use spiritual in a very different method than it’s used by religions.David Wilcock Interior US. which is not localized with the person whatsoever. fix. 2009 [Ed note: Normally the transcripts that had any parts in them that had been difficult for the transcribers to hear were put in “audibles” in square brackets in red for Bill Ryan to attend to. however. Daniel. But that to me is. or their. He said that the intellectual aspects of mind are nonlocal. there’s consciousness – each person has their own consciousness and their own consciousness field. I was wondering if you could explain why that distinction was made in your discussion? Dr. It’s everywhere and every-when. They’re definitely non-localized. I wasn’t aware of that experiment and would very much like to be. the consciousness field deals with consciousness and the information field is mostly unconscious. Now. The information field holds everyone’s consciousness. June 29. . one of the questions that I had for you is that you had mentioned before that you didn’t like the term consciousness field. that they’re not happening in the nervous system at all. that extend through time and space to infinity.. while the consciousness field holds each individual’s consciousness. because I’m looking for things that I can instrument and observe. I guess we could say spiritual characteristic.. [laughs] the information field holds everything in the known universe. The individual consciousness field of each person is very. It’s like a magnetic field or an electric field in some respects – in the respects of a field – but it’s non-local. Pete Peterson. But it also has tentacles.Bill Ryan: Interview Transcript Part 2 Dr.. even though it appears to be somewhat centered around the actual individual. PP: Well. referred to spirit as the intellect. DW: My witness. It may be what some people call the aura. They’re in the consciousness field. then he’d post the transcript. to try to come to some conclusions. and the tumor cells rearrange into healthy raspberry cells and it grows a new plant. so the audibles were left in the square brackets. It’s not a device.Dr. Part 2 . It’s one of the characteristics of the information field that I think the best English word for is the soul or spirit. DW: There’s a Russian scientist named Budakovski who takes a holographic photograph of a healthy raspberry plant. or I’ll say information field. it would be a necessity that things be that way. due to unexpected interruptions in the normal working process in Project Camelot.. It’s not a part of the neural or even non-neural anatomy. and. It’s a field. Pete Peterson . to me. and you would prefer the term information field.] DAVID WILCOCK (DW): Okay. PETE PETERSON (PP): Because. PP: I absolutely agree with that. Are you familiar with anything like that? PP: Well. shines that light into a raspberry tumor. very different. I am. if you would. Pete. It’s one of the characteristics of individuality.
and out of necessity there has to be something that drives the DNA. they found people with heart transplants all of a sudden loved mustard when they couldn’t stand it beforehand. I’ve come to the conclusion -. for example. if you would. that had a genetic problem.that the DNA is merely a factory that generates the physical part of the body. PP: I’d like to be familiar with the experiment. Now with the advent of stem cell research. if you would. For example. which it appears. anything that they could do? . They’re all computerized and we had. For example. DW: Does each person have the same degree of contact with this information field. and the people around them have no idea how to relate to them. If the factory is missing the thing that puts the wheels on. DW: Well. there are people who just seem to be informationally troubled..and feel I can prove that to any competent neuro-anatomist -. PP: Exactly. If they had a genetic disease. because I spent many years in that field building medical instruments. years and years and thousands of patient visits that we could go back and take a look at and correlate the long-term data. for example. you know. So. like the statement that you made was one that I absolutely agree with. or technology perhaps. are pretty much passed down through the family tree. and well over a million-and-ahalf patient visits. and a lot of information about taste. that are replicable cells. that out of necessity there has to be an informational field. you know. That was the instruments that have been out there now for 28 years in the marketplace. They find that the person that was the donor was a very loving person. or consciousness field? PP: I would doubt that they do because they’re all individual. or ways.000-plus instruments around the world. DW: How can someone strengthen their contact with this field that they have? Do you have any exercises. Now they become a very loving person. DW: The tumor was transformed. and that’s shown by a lot of work that was done by Joseph Chilton Pearce. reported by him in The Magical Child. So we correlated that data and have shown that much of this must be the way that things are. that’s like the Budakovski raspberry thing I told you. But there’s also information that comes down through the family tree. we find out that we can use a person’s own stem cells in the body and heighten this field around the body. where the person who lost their heart lost it because of a lot of frustration and a lot of stress and they were a person that wasn’t a loving person. the DNA problems that you get with human health and anatomies are errors that are in the DNA. I found out in human medicine. Yeah.. and some 16. The DNA gets its information from the informational field in how to do that. PP: Yep. This is from a health field. personally troubled. and the cells they had. which has nothing to do with being. And they find that the person that was the donor loved mustard. even when you go in and correct things in their. the wheels are going to fall off. There’s information that’s transmitted to heart tissue – actually brain tissue that’s in the heart – and that holds most of the person’s information about emotional things. But they seem to have problems. the genetic problem goes away because the informational field holds the perfect information rather than the flawed information of the gene itself.DW: Right. but. So you find that the informational field is eternal and holds the spirit or the being or the information of the person in perfection – whereas the perfection then runs through the factory. for example. the genetic disease goes away. Now we’ve done some experiments showing that we can generate this field around the body and the body will act as if the DNA were perfect. And so.
go compare yourself to an acupuncture chart. but closer to bottom knuckle]. they feel that their doctors got correct. you know. and that’s one of the products that I intend to come out with once we get the laboratory and factory completely built. He’s a very famous acupuncturist. but they didn’t show that it worked.. They did away with acupuncture in the ’20s and made it illegal. and you’ll look exactly the same.. and you can go to Radio Shack.PP: I have technology that could do that. the radioactive material goes to the tonsillary ring. . The American Medical Association publishes every year the number of clinical diagnoses that their doctors.. we’ve been very successful with these instruments. and we found that the radioactivity moved directly to the organ associated with that point. The same thing.. There have been a number of people that postulated it. etcetera. When we inject here [touching same thumb. I know what I think it would do and. I worked with Dr. if you work across the hand. you’re going to get certain chemical reactions out of the body. Here it goes to. even though it was practiced down every alley. You go down [indicating different points down the side of the thumb] and. When we inject here [touching the side his left thumb]. and for the 6. but what have you done? What could you do? What could it do for someone? PP: We’ll know that once we get it done and do the testing on it. not only to the organ system. it goes on down the body. Here it goes to the aorta. So. etcetera. it goes the whole lymphatic system. What we did is we injected radioactive potassium into each acupuncture point while the person was under a high-speed CAT-scan machine. this chamber. PP: . KERRY CASSIDY (KC): Oh.. DW: Do you believe in acupuncture points on the body? PP: Well.for the 3. He taught the Chinese acupuncture. so. But acupuncture has its definite uses. The reason for that was they had a huge plague and acupuncture wouldn’t cure the plague but penicillin would. you know. etcetera. as does the sister of acupuncture. It makes sense [that] if you put certain chemicals in the body and certain precursors.200 years that Ayurvedic medicine has been talking about it. or you can go to Harbor Freight and buy a $4. Jean Claude De Roche at the French Institute of Science.00 dollar meter and adjust the meter appropriately and run those on the body and find every one of the points. [pointing to different places on his hand] You come over here and you have the heart and the small intestine. I did find out how the acupuncture system works. that’s tantalizing. wow.. which is Chinese herbal medicine. But above the first joint. 85% of the patients feel that within two days they don’t have what they had when they came. anyway. For example. the acupuncture system is very interesting. So the French missionaries brought in penicillin and so they did away with acupuncture and went with penicillin. DW: Well. you know. that chamber.300 years that the Neijing has been around talking about it. you know. etcetera. So we found there was a direct correlation to. We have 85% of the patients that use the medical equipment that I’m talking about. put a little dot there. I have to believe in them because they’re there. it talks about the lymphatics that are in the tonsillary ring. This year it jumped all the way up to 6% from 5% the previous year. down the outside of the thumb you have a point that gives you information about the entire lymphatic system – just below the first joint. but to actual parts of it. and then during the Cultural Revolution they brought it back. you have lymph and lung and circulation and etcetera. You can go down and inject here and it goes to the mitral valve.00 or $5.
it’ll quit feeling good and you move onto the next point. aren’t really meridians. [laughter] . not the point of the pen but the point of the case. Most people don’t know there’s a joint just like this joint and this joint and this joint [pointing to the back of his had with the pen]. It’s ionic in nature. so it’s polarized. They’re around an area that’s about a 45-degree angle toward the finger. It turns out there’s a type of material called an electret. and each of those layers is a capacitive. They’re made up of a. the film vibrates. That’s where you tie a shoelace. conductive surface. it’ll feel really good if you have a problem there. and that’s where the voice signal comes from. and so you can tell where you have a problem. As the voice hits it. peristaltically. So there’s a way of putting a permanent electric charge on a piece of plastic.. Another way to do it is use an acupuncture needle and stick it into the point to charge it or discharge it. what acupuncturists don’t want you to know is. and I said: No. and people asked us what the holes were for. The body is a biological mechanism. The points are just above and below each joint. like the heart does. And you rub it one time or 50 times. All the microphones in little tape recorders you’ve ever seen. You can probe those places. and you have them down each side of the hand. If you rub back and forth past those. just above and below the joint. if you take something that’s a little milder rounded and rub that point. you’ll feel really. It’s built up in a number of layers. We also found that the acupuncture points. [laughs] but it works as does anything in the body. You’ll feel a grittiness or a graininess. and if you loan it to somebody. right down here at the wrist. feed it into the device. Now. ones you don’t have a bad problem. different points will feel differently because the metal thing tends to discharge an excess of electric field there. as they’re called. So. It works like the intestine does. And you can take something like a ball point pen – I don’t see one here [picks up a pen] – but you can take. not meant for conducting materials such as radioactive potassium. 99% of them are electret microphones where you have a little piece of film with a permanent charge. and all of a sudden. the acupuncture meridians aren’t veins. and on ones where you’re having a problem with the organ or organ system. It’ll normally alleviate almost any problem you have. and there’s a way to put it in to do either. it feels so good. if it was critical to the use of the unit.Then you go down on the feet.. and plastic would tend to charge up a point of extra field there. you’ll find a little hard nodule under the skin. That’s what an acupuncturist does. An electret is to electric field like a magnet is to a magnetic field. you’ll feel the little nodule but it will actually palpate like it were a little grain of rice filled with coarse sand. So that system was an information system. If you do that on your fingers and on your feet. And you go up below the joint and above the joint. Those pieces of metal have a number of holes in them. you keep one hand with a shoelace around because they won’t give it back to you. And if you take a piece of metal and do the same thing. one of the products that we came up with is two little pieces of metal that you can have little indentations on them and you can rub your points. They can find where those places are that you need to have a treatment and do it that way. ones that aren’t too bad. at about 45 [degrees]. So you can make an electret and rub the various points and it’ll just feel really good. so it pulsates and moves information. really good. peristaltically. they aren’t vessels. the acupuncture points are the same thing. Then there’s a piece of metal next to it and you measure the voltage between the two. you’ll notice that between the organs – or done surgery – between the organs there’s a white filmy layer. That layer is built up like a baklava. and you can probe about a 45-degree angle just above and below each joint. If you’ve ever cleaned a game animal or a chicken. The acupuncture meridians.
. and after a period of time it’ll just get softer and there won’t be any little nodule under the skin. as a matter of fact. but she worked on it for a couple of years. It’s very highly toxic. in fact. Now. The teeth are piezoelectric. But people eat all the muscle tissue and throw the good parts away. DW: Discharge. and they have very. these little devices. So that’s why you should take very good care of your teeth and don’t get a root canal unless you absolutely have to have it. DW: Really? PP: Yep. . not that you’ll die.. DW: So you’re saying that the tissues around the organs have an ionic transfer system.. It was on the middle finger. It feels as good as a scratch on a good itch. If they keep massaging them from time to time until it quits feeling. If they feed ’em muscle tissue and they only give ’em muscle tissue.. we found that these were there. and their nodules are usually hard like a rock. but they go all the way up the body. but they get very ill. Especially people who are missing a lot of teeth get a real. DW: Hm. BILL RYAN (BR): Does that mean that we shouldn’t eat a good raw steak if you’re a meat eater? PP: Unfortunately. Most people don’t know that lions and tigers never eat muscle tissue. [sighs] It’s very obvious that I eat anything that’s slower than I am. will make up for that and will charge you up. you know. DW: My mother had a large nodule right here and it finally went away. To the organ. The teeth are piezoelectric. If you go clear to the end of where that meridian is. the heart and the internal organs. They strip out the blood veins.PP: So we have tooling to make those and I probably need to make another batch of them. it’s highly toxic.. very pronounced little nodules. the neural tissue. DW: I’m just trying to understand. They don’t eat muscle tissue.. they all end at a tooth root.. they’ll eat it. move to the next one. PP: Or if you take a piece of piezoelectric material and apply a voltage. And after a period of time you’ll feel the granularity... They’re around the organ. There’s no nervous system there. the vessels. demise. [laughter] But that does mean that. it’s kind of an interesting thing. But anyway. and this is the lung system here. PP: I have one here. and when it quits feeling good. If you start stripping out neural tissue. it expands or contracts. it turns out that these points – like this is the lymphatic system here [pointing to the back of his hand]. So there are some things that we have. and there are points up the body. but your health will go down. which is.. PP: No. This is not. DW: Right.... PP: No. As good as it tastes. They eat intestines and they eat. it’s not good for you.. It’s because they don’t want that animal to get excited and release a lot of toxins into the muscle tissue. and. PP: That’s also why the kosher meats have a very specific way of sneaking up on the animal and not alarming them and very mercifully putting them out of their.. PP: Whether they know it or not. with sodium. It’s what I’m saying. DW: This is not the typical nervous system you’re talking about. and if you go clear to the end of what.. When you squeeze a piezoelectric material. it generates a voltage. [laughs] And it comes and goes. real success from that.
DW: Well. But what it doesn’t report is that four years later he committed suicide and said he was sorry for perpetrating such a hoax. What I’m saying is that problems in the organ manifest themselves both physically and informationally at the appropriate points on the body. if you think about it.. because they’re the extremities. People looked for it and couldn’t find it and finally he just had to admit that he made it all up. and it really races through there. whether divinely or by genetics. KC: You’re saying you can either heal it on the hand or you can heal it directly on the organ.. etcetera. It doesn’t race through your veins. It depends where it is. It really races. So. could I get the elevator version? [laughter] PP: There’s not really an elevator version. etcetera. DW: Okay. you’re saying this is all happening.PP: It’s a completely different system. But if you inject the radioactive potassium there. what it is. If you took blood from the tip of this finger and traced it back to the heart. DW: Hm. somehow. which meridian it is. Why not design a system where you could test the thing? I mean. Now.. Could you explain that? What’s the energetic component? PP: I really. Kim Bong Jung. KC: No? PP: No. PP: Because we’re built that way. It moves very. we had to get a higher speed CAT-scan machine to even see it. when you build a car. He said: I found the neural system and here are pictures of the little tubules that carry a yellow fluid. It’ll say a number of things. DW: Now. but maybe we come with a . And it goes exceedingly fast. It’s a very high frequency. And that’s all been reported. You plug a computer in there and it’ll say: The oxygen sensor’s bad. let’s assume that somehow. The brakes are getting weak. we don’t come with an operator’s manual. It makes what’s going on in your hand. DW: Okay. very slowly. who postulated that there was. that isn’t the system.. PP: And so. There was a Korean fellow. we were designed. If an organ is dysfunctional. It’s the frequency of this. You can find that all over the Internet and you can find it all over medical literature.. There isn’t that system. any car that you’ve had in the last 10 or 12 years has an electrical connector under the seat. some interface with the consciousness field or the information field? PP: The informational field. It creates what’s going on in your hand. Yeah. I wasn’t saying that at all. DW: Okay. that’s a couple hour lecture. right? PP: No. what the problem is. It’s like milking a cow or a goat – it’s a peristaltic action. why would it matter what’s going on in your hand? PP: It doesn’t. So. We found how it worked because we injected the radioactive potassium and then we looked at it and watched it go through the body. it doesn’t move very fast..
And we can then measure in real time at these points. threw me off a little bit here in my thinking about this. PP: And it doesn’t work at all like anybody thinks.are acupuncture points. the body will react to that informational field as if you had given the person that substance. 6.system that is very easy for us to find out what the problem is and then alter things. they asked me: What’s your goal for this machine? And I said: My goal is. yes. so we now have a bio-feedback system that will actually do that. when the doctor throws the thing in the Dempsey Dumpster. DW: Okay? PP: Because there’s no correlation whatever. So you can go to an acupuncture point and get information from it that you can graph and chart on a machine. they didn’t have any kind of measurement instruments. The body will react exactly as if you’ve given that substance. People asked me when I built these very complex computerized machines that do the diagnosis and selection of treatment. We found out a way to take that substance.300 years ago. so it surrounds the body. and from the device find a numerical signature for that information field. DW: A lot of our audience is going to think of the Rife machine when you say these numerical signatures. to store it in a computer. or 3. one thing we found out is that every substance has an informational field around it. we can make a signature of a compound. They have a mental effect in some instances. and some aren’t.most of which -. whether it’s winning the battle or losing the battle. We can make that field large. and it isn’t because placebos have a physical effect. BR: When somebody is given a placebo. and just does it. Now we can take the computer and run that information back out and generate an informational field. even though they’re classical points. and what happens is. PP: That’s very unfortunate. DW: You can play a signature for a specific compound. Then you can put the person in an informational field from a substance that you think may solve that problem. mechanical type of thing. the machine takes away his emotional state and his emotional interference with it. are they affecting their own informational field? PP: Absolutely. place it on a device. . BR: So you should be able to affect your own informational field without a placebo.. That’s another story. anyway. Now. PP: Yes. and how much. Then we found a way. some of which -. you know.000 years ago. However. and they have an informational effect in some instances. and it will tell you whether that organ is in a type of inflammatory process. DW: Okay. and ask the body. I know how his instruments worked and it has no bearing on this whatsoever. therefore. so you can select a type of treatment. This is a very gross. or in a degenerative process. But. That can be done. PP: Yeah.. DW: Okay. There are some acupuncture points that we find don’t do anything. It has nothing to do with the Rife machine. how long it’s been there. Now. Placebos work 50 percent of the time. KC: Didn’t you work for Royal Rife? PP: I worked for Rife for a period of time.
It can easily be done. and I ran around in front of them like the man that runs in front of a curling stone and sweeping a pathway for it. in the United States. PP: Well. it’ll come up and tell what a fraud this device is. DW: Eighteen thousand? PP: Eighteen thousand clinics using this technology. it’s very beneficial to have vitamin A.000 clinics. And so what I did was I let other people do it. and a lot of time and effort. eight or ten weeks to live. 5. A man with a broom goes in front of it. For example.] We got a very. one of the machines that I want to come out with in the future is one that’s a bio-feedback device that allows the patient to put himself in an informational or mental state that affects the problem with the body. Anybody who wants to know if it’s a fraud. I spent a lot of money. I’ll give you the closest doctor. smoothing the surface so that the stone can slide more freely. when you put my name into a computer. There must be publications. 18. and got this device actually approved by the FDA. I went around in front of them sweeping a pathway in front of the FDA. too much of a good thing is too much. That can be done. or gross over-consumption of something. you take too much vitamin A and you’ll find yourself gaining water and getting ascites. note: Pete is talking about the Scottish sport of Curling. and we kept her alive for another 17 years. We don’t get enough vitamin A in our bodies. come to me. and some people die from it. About five other companies came in and stole the information from them.and the patient’s emotional state and the patient’s emotional characteristics with it. PP: Because I knew it was going to need 20 or 25 years out there before it got itself established. right now. you’ll find that the checks that he cashes at the bank are from large pharmaceutical companies and from the government at times. sweeping the ice. PP: He felt very happy about that. and you can go there and ask the doctor whether his 3. it finally ended up. in which a Curling Stone is slid on ice. Out of that. But. DW: A lot of people are going to want to know. the only documentation I know is. DW: That was my next question. I’m not interested in thousands of people associating that and being able to show their friends that I’m a fraud. DW: Oh my gosh. [Ed. In the meantime. DW: Hm. and that branch handles things like we have. that I know of. I don’t know. and how it’s a quack device. 10. and two . which. There must be documentation out there. DW: Right. if they’d come and asked me. KC: So.. 7. I taught seven companies how to make it. what name are they going to put into the computer for that device? PP: I’m not going to say that. But if you find out who put that in there. no matter how good the thing is. you’ll find out that he says the same thing about a lot of other things that work. very good publicity man whose mother had been given. So. and other than gross poisoning. about 10 or 12 years later there’s actually an alternative medical branch of the FDA. Many people almost die from it.. But. and so he jumped on our bandwagon. I’d have handed it to them. is anybody using this technology? Are there any doctors that are using it? PP: There are. Then if you go and watch the man.000 patients that went there.
like. because I can prove that my diagnoses with this type of machine are absolutely correct. They eliminated 80% of the effectiveness of the machine. all the chemicals that are out there that are man- . PP: It just became natural. when I gave the people how to build this thing. and everybody says: Oh.says their doctors only get 5% of their clinical diagnoses correct. I know what that means.2 to $4 million.. If they only get.. I gave it away. if the doctor had only persisted with it for a month. I’ll see the problem as much as 20 years before it manifests itself in the body where common medical things can test it. You know. and then find out what the solution is. almost killing the patient each time. all computerized. in the beginning. That’s why I have people that came and thought it was a fraud and didn’t accept the medication. so I put a Point Locator. And the Point Locator made a tone. pardon my 10 years in the Marine Corps. so they couldn’t steal it from me. all the magic healing potions of every magic healing potion system known. I’d have given it to them. If they’d come to me. because the tone carried a lot of information. what do you think they get correct with the treatment? You know why they say practicing medicine. And even though the medical people -. They don’t have a way to have an idea. How can I prove that? Well. or six. you get the picture of practicing medicine. PP: They didn’t steal it from me. you know. people have stolen it from you and. that sounds like a cow dying. think that it’s a fraud. oh.. all the herbals of every herbal system known. they built it.. I know what that tone means. watch the TV show House. that. I have people that have more testicles than I have that are willing to do it. They don’t have an idea. in my instrument. PP: Oh. Let me try this. DW: Is it variable in terms of how well they work. DW: Wow.the AMA -. he’s supposed to be the best diagnostician in the world. So I’m now ready. the person doesn’t know where the points are. which almost everybody likened it to the sound of a cow that was dying. or seven treatments. and in each incidence they tried five. Now. you know.. And...000 different substances that are in this world... [laughter] Okay? So. Or on the other hand. it’s anecdotal because the patient can’t tell you if they’re well or they don’t have the symptom any longer – that’s illegal. The first thing I did was. you know. That’s what we’ve done. when you touch the body. I’m ready to go and do that. of their clinical diagnoses correct. DW: You said there’s a lot of clones of this technology out there. He’d: Oh. but I watched them over a period of time and saw them eventually die of what I told them they would die from. They stole it from other people. on television. It comes out of Canada. I’m now ready to go up against any one of them. patient visits behind it. All the medications of every medical system known. because when they go look with conventional diagnostic tools and equipment.days later walked out without their problem. But. let me try that. He can dial up on the machine now some 850. except I’m not going to do that because I don’t have any desire to be assassinated. he could then hear that tone and he could cut down diagnosis time from 35 to 40 minutes to 2½ to 3 minutes. probably $1. I’ll wait 20 years and prove it. But it’s very true to life. That’s why I have 27 years of testing done on it. so they changed the tone. after 28 years of having this device out there and about somewhere between.. I know it’s not 100% placebo because placebos only work 50% of the time. absolutely. 5% or 6% now this year. In the medical terminology. They’re a lot more frank there. So I now have enough evidence. or maybe more.
Everything’s there. all the chemicals that you find in nature. you can ask it: Okay. about 6000 doctors I trained. there’s going to be a lot of people that want to claim that they have this technology to profit from it. yeah. all the pharmaceuticals in the homeopathic pharmacopeia. how much should I give? It’ll tell you an exact amount. and instead of having to do. BR: But there are similar healing modalities in existence. Go on. Now you know what to give. you can do it. What makes the difference? DW: One thing that I think is really important is. and in the allopathic pharmacopeia. So. Did they believe they were cured? Yes. I’ve had that pain for 20 years and now it’s gone. Did we heal him? No. the small intestine. and they had machines that moo-ed like a cow and it was really good. if I’m going to give this. DW: Wow.. Now.. you know. Many times when we give the medications to a patient. all the minerals. And many times you’ll find something that will alleviate a problem in the. . absolutely. and they’ll say: Ah.. I’m building a laboratory and a factory where I will produce these.. BR: I’m not saying it’s the same. all the vitamins. DW: Oh. PP: I’ve got one that’s built in a fountain pen and we’ll probably sell it for around $99.. they’ll bounce up and down like they were at Disneyland on Mr.. pay between $12 and $50. PP: Oh. Do they believe they were healed? Yes. PP: Oh. and after that it went downhill. I’m just saying it’s something that works.. PP: Well. there’s a bell curve produced. well there must be another medication that’ll work and not counteract something here. again.. PP: Absolutely. PP: The problem is that the first. and you want that medication that’s right at the peak of the bell curve.. And like everything in nature. You want just that amount that’ll produce that reaction and – BANG – you give it. the machine will help you sort those out and find out exactly what will alleviate the problem. DW: Or doctors that are actually using the right one? Or. a curve that looks like a bell. Did we cure them? No.. So you can go back and find that particular medication. like you have to do today. which is. So. ah. So you say: Oh.. DW: How do we prevent against that? Is there any search term we can give people on Google? PP: I don’t know that we can prevent against it.000 dollars for one of the machines. DW: And it may not be the one you’re actually talking about.. for example.made. there are some that work beautifully. Why do I say: No? Because it’s against the law. Toad’s Wild Ride. but find that it’ll aggravate the neural system. BR: Radionics. if this video is out there online. There are radionics machines that.
There’s another machine for pain. eight months with the people doing it. DW: Oh. I didn’t say that. and they actually have electric material that we invented to actually do the charging. it works very well. And I think. so the correct spelling of this is unknown.PP: Yeah. two out of every 100 people were killed by the anesthetic.. and it works with. massage these points on their hands. which was brought to this country by Tony Nebrinski who was the KGB man in this country looking for medical technology to send home to Russia. DW: Is there a way people could build those on their own? PP: They probably could as soon as they saw one. BR: That’s about right. It works through the informational field.. DW: Have you heard of the SCANAR. DW: It doesn’t work? PP: No.. oh. But people can also. but it’s easier and cheaper to buy one from me.. you say: How do my organs react to that? There’s a reason that the highest-paid doctor is the anesthesiologist.. PP: . BR: . It’s because he has to pay the most insurance. It’s interesting in that you can take one of the units and do it. as you said. you can find out how you’ll react to any food. By the way... One of the best things is that anything that goes in the body. PP: Oh. but when I was working on it. PP: I said there are things that work a lot better.in the informational field. on. having spent about... it works very well. DW: Great.. That’s what I meant to say. Exactly right.shells coming out of a machine gun.. It’s called the Acuscope. Hartmut Muller who built this LED thing that you put on your skin.. the Russian SCANAR? PP: I’ve definitely heard of the SCANAR.. Is that another one that you think works? PP: No.and working together with them. PP: The best medical machine I ever invented were these two little things we call Acu-Combs [Ed note: did a search and did not find this device.] that you just rub your points with and get well. [overtalk] . and they put ’em in a tumbler and tumble them. DW: There’s a guy named Dr. DW: Okay. I may be wrong.. You’d have to check what it is these days. DW: Really? PP: . because I paid thousands of dollars for the tooling and they stamp them out like.
it may come back. what they call potency or strength.. I quit keeping track when I started trying to keep in front of these people and keep them out of trouble for using them. Then we sold a few to chiropractors. Anyway. card-carrying MDs. and then you take that. We found out that we can measure here and we can find out exactly – if you have allergies. and we’ve tested people now for 28 years. exactly what you’re allergic to.PP: This thing will tell you exactly because this finger and the distal side of the middle finger tells you about food absorption here. The diagnoses can’t be made by a machine. at the time – all this was maybe 18 years ago – there were about 350 veterinarians using them and they were working perfectly. and they moo like a cow [laughter] – a dying cow. It doesn’t fit their paradigm. PP: And we’re dealing strictly with an informational system here that modern science refuses to do. BR: I just want to say. we’re coming to the end of our third hour and there may be a number of other topics which we want to touch on before. and you won’t have that allergy. because we kept them out of trouble. When you learn how to read the meter and learn how to read the chart. I know there are a number of other topics. the doctor only uses this to help him in making his diagnoses. and she started using them. after a period of time. There’s an indication on a meter and on a chart. and we’ll find that you need a homeopathic remedy of a different. KC: How does it tell you? PP: By making an indication. David. Another thing we found was. that what we are very clear about. But it doesn’t seem to make much difference to those people who had allergies and don’t. You want to make this technology available. Then. on camera here.. and allergy here. and a couple are proteins. you can tell whether you’re going to have an allergic reaction or not. we found that there are 33 substances that all humans and all animals are allergic to. Then we have now. As far as I know. The only reason I want to build the things is so they’re built right. I have no need to make any money. well. it’ll tell you how your body will react to it. we only sold them to card-carrying AMA. Then we can take that material and prepare it homeopathically and give you a couple drops under the tongue and that allergy will disappear entirely. which is wrong. which can be taught in approximately one minute. or the diagnoses for much less money. I’ve had my share of the cherry. Then. a few of them to naturopaths. They could find out what problems animals had. but eventually you’ll get to an end point. and how to solve the problem. I don’t. That anesthetic. And remember. that lets the doctor do the treatment for much less. BR: Folks. PP: That’s why in the beginning. the first person to have one that was a veterinarian was the Veterinary Commissioner for the State of Nevada. is there more things you’d like to pick up on? I know that Kerry’s got some . having spent quite some time talking with you. DW: Wow. out of a major university’s animal husbandry department.. nobody’s ever had an allergy come back. It will tell you whether you have an allergic dispensation toward that medicine. We sold a few of them to osteopaths. that you’re not trying to get rich through any of this. while we have the opportunity. only made by a doctor. BR: Yeah. Most of them are phenolic compounds that have a 6-sided benzene ring in the molecule. No. Because that gives it. PP: No. And we’ve not had any trouble in using them.. and a couple are hormones. that modern science doesn’t like it. Sometimes it takes you three or four days to chase this thing around and find out exactly what you need.
But we have tooling that fits in a machine called the Amada Punch Press that punches it out faster than you can even see. oh. people like the way it makes them feel.. DW: Yeah. DW: Okay. I could probably ship within two weeks. So there are pressure points where there are things that you deal with. PP: And a little set of cards that you can fold out that shows all the points on the hand.. and then I’d take 50. and then I’d take 100. DW: Okay. PP: Like I said. PP: So. once you’re ready to do that. where’d you get that? What does that do? And the guy is: Here. and I’ve never found the time that I didn’t sell out before noon. I’m just sensitive to all the emails that are going to be coming in.. We all have this power to heal ourselves... It comes normally in a little carrying case with a separation between the two. Once I sell three or four. I know that one of the plates. I started with taking 20.00 or $8. I know that one of the plates out of necessity needs to be copper. is the bottom line. I don’t know. [video displays dr_peterson_orders@projectcamelot. PP: . No.. The copper in it now costs about $7. DW: Well you have your first order right now. they like the way it makes their hands feel... DW: Hm. and then it just has to be tumbled in the right combination of things to make it smooth and easy to handle.. Well. either I’ll have to make it or find a factory that does it. indigestion and headaches and that kind of thing. yeah. DW: But it’s not that expensive. Then I’d start giving a shoelace with them so they’d get them back.on the first day.. DW: Right. the Global Science Congress and Tesla Society meetings and dowsing meetings and so forth. people can’t put it down. I don’t have a shoelace. all the points on the feet. so it doesn’t have sharp edges on it. And I’ve also. PP: I can’t tell you what they cost. by having the machine as a bio- . and they determine by themselves without any help from the government that they actually do something for them that they like and so they buy them. and I’ve never taken them. PP: It’s not really that expensive. anyway. and probably much the same for the electric plate. DW: Hm. the factory that used to make my electric material has gone out of business. Then we have to stamp it and process it. So they’re standing there doing it.00 dollars for the copper plate.questions too. in any medical device that I’ve ever done. people [saying]: Well. let me try it. People are going to want to know how to buy these little plates. can you give us the information? PP: If I had orders. then everybody is. I’ve taken them to. so if you say you can machine them. maybe a couple hundred health fairs and Psychotronic Association meetings. So. I think it’s really important to note that the healing is within.org at the bottom] PP: [laughs] Yeah.
and it. [sticks his tongue out the side of his mouth] DW: Okay.feedback tool. DW: I didn’t think so. DW: Salt water? PP: Salt water. Is this like an EKG. DW: Oh. . like an engraver or a watchmaker. It’s like if I hum or whistle Yankee Doodle ten times. they have to hold their tongue in a certain way and it lets them do things. you learn to hold those tones. like it’s a brain wave? PP: No. You put that on and it makes a tone. And if I do Mary Had a Little Lamb. no. DW: Okay. DW: This is going to make me sound stupid. they’re not expensive. you can hum Yankee Doodle. you can then alter these things without the plates. and we give a little cassette tape that makes a tone. But you don’t necessarily have to hold your tongue right. you can just throw the plates away. they do it this way. PP: Yes. It sounds like whistling a tune. PP: So you learn to make that tune by thinking right. DW: So this gives off an even pitch? But the pitch is varying? PP: No. Have you ever seen a watchmaker work? DW: The position of your tongue changes the tone? PP: No. no. and eventually you’ll put it on and if you do different things mentally. you can learn to match. you’ll get different tones. So. table salt. You can just do it mentally. the best thing I ever did was the plates.. And when you get to that point. with your brain. PP: If you watch someone that’s doing precision work. just regular salt water. and you can learn to. but people in the audience are going to compare that the Monroe tapes.which brings up another device that I’ll be putting out that looks like a cigarette pack – that’s a bad thing to use – like a pack of playing cards. and maybe that’s even bad to use. It’s a varying pitch. and all the machines. so you get the tone that was on the little tape. What I tell people is: If you think about this right.. DW: Such as? PP: Out of all those substances... .. DW: Is there any relationship with those? PP: None whatsoever. It’s not an even pitch. that’s what I didn’t want to say. I found a number of substances that do miraculous things for the body. But it’s a little device that has a headband that you have a little electrode you soak with salt water in the front and the rear. PP: Yeah.. with the binaural synchronization in the ears. This makes a sound and you learn to generate that sound by holding your tongue right. you can do Mary Had a Little Lamb. you learn how to hold your mind right.
surplus-wise. I mean.. You just put a little shaving cream on it and scrape a little piece off and.. They immediately say: Oops.. and go have them implement me. you can do Mary Had a Little Lamb in about ten minutes. and you buy the song from him. DW: But. DW: Really? PP: Yeah. like buying an mp3 thing.. and it works just fine. DW: Oh. and you stir water and salt together until there’s no more salt to dissolve. DW: That’s very interesting.. PP: [speaking quietly] I can tell you that government agencies have bought those by the thousands. DW: So. and you make that song. We’ve got to fix it. You put it on. So. Use a little wash cloth with some soap on it and wipe the grease off the area here [pointing to his forehead] and the grease off the area back here that you’ve balded. because nobody can learn to do that. are there. DW: Let’s say you have a guy that can move things with his mind. PP: My favorite thing to do with it is find somebody that’s into brainwave analysis and brainwave work. How precise do you have to be in placement? Does it have to be right smack on? PP: No. and they have a little cotton sock over them. PP: Yeah. . why these two points then? [touching his forehead and center back of his head] PP: Because those are the ones that work.DW: Okay.. once you learn to do Yankee Doodle. DW: How would you get an electrode on the back of your head? Isn’t that going to go through your hair? PP: Well. I bought about 10. PP: And.. the machine is broken. and there’s two little electrodes made out of a special metal. You soak this.. I can teach anybody to play Yankee Doodle with their brain in two weeks. and then play Yankee Doodle for them with my brain. DW: And he makes a song on this thing. DW: Wow. What’s making the tone? PP: An electrical field that’s generated by the body. DW: And there’s a headband you wear? PP: There’s a headband you wear. chances are very good that you’re going to run that little ball bearing around through the maze with your head. PP: He makes a song. he has telekinesis. [laughter] DW: Okay. is it used only for healing? Or are there other. within a couple inches. and you dip those in there and squeeze them out a little bit. you take water and you put it in a little bowl. Sorry.000 little fold-out razors that are used to scrape hair off the body when a surgeon needs to sew it up.
[fade out] Music plays over PP’s voice saying: . we’ll call it brainwave noise. but then anything that isn’t hooked directly to the brain isn’t brainwave noise anyway. Why would the agencies be interested in stuff like this? PP: Oh... PP: I wouldn’t do that if I were you. note: Stanford Research Institute] BR: Uh-huh. but we create clean transcripts for your enjoyment and pondering.. Click here for the video interview **Transcript provided by the hard-working volunteer members of the Divine Cosmos/ Project Camelot Transcription Team. PP: And a lot of them were bought by. I don’t know that I can say that. All the transcripts that you find on both sites have been provided by the Transcription Team for the last several years. there always seems to be a robot involved with it. BR: I have a 60-second question before this tape goes out. We’ll leave it to our imagination. BR: Okay..** . BR: Okay. It goes in a different spot. if you look at most of the movies. [Ed..PP: No. You will have a visit if you mention it. PP: Leave it to your imagination.. KC: Oh. And you won’t like it. DW: Okay. A lot of your people will ask that. We are like ants: we may be hidden. PP: I can tell you that there were a lot of them bought at SRI. PP: But it’s very easy to tell where it goes because you put it on and it isn’t making.. KC: To teach remote influencing.. KC: I said that. it doesn’t go on the third eye.been involved with trying to build flying saucers. I didn’t even hint that. you usually found with flying saucers. PP: Not unless you’d like a visit. [music begins to fade in] PP: I didn’t say that. That’s not what it is.
Anyway.. they anticipated having some nuclear problems there and decided they need some robotic-type thing that could waltz into a nuclear meltdown and pull the reactor apart. PP: Well. I look at Earth. and after David. June 29. [laughs] . if you look at most of the movies. you usually found that with flying saucers. So. You know. a nuclear reactor test site. and we’ll see how this goes. having been involved with trying to build flying saucers. when I built a satellite tracking station before there were satellites. and I look at the things we’ve done to destroy this fragile little spaceship that we live on going through space. due to unexpected interruptions in the normal working process in Project Camelot. and I just have a few wrap-up questions that I want to run by you. and a few of my friends. Our use of nickel-cadmium batteries. there was a place that was called the Atomic Energy Commission. and how involved you really were with robots. I hope I have a little more energy left. So. and you have been very generous with your time. and lead batteries. In the early days. I. KC: I’m just wondering if we could kind of drill down there a little bit and talk about what your background was. Start of Interview: KERRY CASSIDY (KC): So Pete. PETE PETERSON (PP): .Dr. PP: That’s correct. with your energy. eventually I. then he’d post the transcript. had great faith in myself and said: Oh sure.] Intro: Dr. one of the leading things you said was that you were involved with robots. I wonder. It’s where the first nuclear power generation was done. At that point in time in Idaho on the eastern side of the state. there always seems to be a robot involved with it. 2009 [Ed note: Normally the transcripts that had any parts in them that had been difficult for the transcribers to hear were put in “audibles” in square brackets in red for Bill Ryan to attend to. Pete Peterson . got the contract to do robots that could do that. and yet most of the oxygen’s produced by plankton. this normal process was not able to proceed forward. we talk badly about all the burning of the rainforests in Brazil. so the audibles were left in the square brackets. fix. Pete Peterson Part 3 .. however. So they came and found out that I actually had a satellite tracking station before there were satellites. then tracked the Russian Sputnik when it was launched and called the government and told them the launch trajectory and the orbital and the frequency it was transmitting on – during the McCarthy era – they thought maybe I was a Communist pinko. so that got a lot of notoriety here in Idaho. very happy to be able to connect with you. because I’m coming after Bill. and putting them out into the environment has killed a good part of the plankton. we talk about burning. we are very. naturally. I was about 17 years old at the time. Cetaceans are beaching themselves. so that there’s enough food left for the others.Bill Ryan: Interview Transcript Part 3 Dr.Kerry Cassidy Interior US. so I was very interested in robots. so that they wouldn’t have a China Syndrome taking place.
this was in the 1955-6-7-8 region of time.. So. it’s not so far off base at all. Then on the bottom of it. Intel is paying a lot of royalties to various people who worked in and on various chips that evolved over the proper evolution of computer chips – what I consider to be proper. KC: Well that was my next question. You could reach around behind you or in front of you. eventually we built a couple of different types of. We now have a chip that’s very. right? They could be back at… PP: There could be any distance up to 20 or 30 miles. KC: And there could be a distance. is not so far off base. and has a number of computers built into it that automatically look at the task and adapt themselves. so all of them that we did for them had wires.. Am I right? PP: No. So anyway. They were devices that at one end looked exactly like we think of a robot looking. PP: Well. It was the first use I know of a microprocessor chip in a real product. but it required wires at the time. But for working with atomic materials. Then later we built a computer training device to teach people how to use microprocessors and how to use software to accomplish various tasks.. there are more of those produced monthly than all the Intel chips produced in a year. Later we made some that worked on radio waves. or out to the side. Once we got those working – and it’s interesting to note that the computer chip we used in the 1970s. KC: At that point did they have AI? PP: No. or like ashes. So you . It had a pair of arms that would move and grip. and some had little tank treads. and grease became like welds. first I got involved in computers. on the other end of this device that looked at one end like a robot. [Pete laughs] So. that was a tremendous education. In 1975. I don’t know when it is you got really involved in AI and you started to. we designed them so if you could grip a beaker of liquid. Materials like ashes became very hard.. Terminator.I found out a lot of things. inside of a heavy nuclear flux became insulators. the term hadn’t even been invented yet. and one of the people who worked for us later worked on Terminator whatever-it-was. you could move it very rapidly and it would tilt it accordingly and not spill it. Then they had a couple of little hands that they could move their arms and hands like it.. Actually. They couldn’t withstand that type of lack of physical security. Because it’s a chip that was actually designed like a computer. radio waves could be interfered with. We built that at a little computer company whose name was Cyberdyne. or at least. I won’t call them robots. even today. may be not even recently. whereas the Intel chips are not designed like computers. and the robot would move accordingly – the manipulator would move accordingly. and… DAVID WILCOCK (DW): Really? PP: …very stiff metals became like toast and very brittle and broke apart. KC: So let’s fast-forward to a lot more recently. very tiny. we had some that had three rolling wheels. ’76 we built a computer that was used in Tokyo at the airport to announce the plane flights in a number of different languages. So. and insulators became conductors.. was a thing that a person got into. and they'd put those on and they could see stereoscopically. because they were truly manipulators. I’m not sure how you want to answer this. a number of things. They had a couple of small one-inch television tubes with lenses on. I found out that materials that were electrical conductors. but the movie.
tiny tenth-of-an-inch-square chip. It’s in eastern Idaho. but… KC: So basically. I then got involved with a number of people working on building an artificial intelligence chip that.may have 10. and from those make a decision that’s correct. you can look at the width of the door and the height of the door and decide whether it can go through it or not. because a chip was doing digital computing – a fuzzy logic chip either does digitally (if it’s high-speed enough) [or] it does analogue computing – it looks at things as we see them in the real world. This was in about 1987. you can be looking at a doorway as compared to a wall. weren’t you? PP: Well. You can look at somebody standing between you and the door. When we went there visiting with super-capacitors that I brought out of the Ukraine.. one could say that. go through it.. I can tell you that when I went to the Idaho National Engineering Labs. we don’t have anything like this. How did you solve that? PP: Well. One of the biggest problems they used to have was when they wanted them to walk upright like humans that they would fall over. or larger bumps. in fact several towns are built around that center. the. ’88. KC: But. But. we did it much the same way that Dean Kamen built his two-wheeled scooter. They had a large Japanese conference over trying to sell them manipulators and robots. but it’s not diabolical or anything. we’ll call. you can be looking at bumps on the floor. PP: Well. somewhere in there. It can go over there and manipulate around the person. with the robot. and they said they had a large contingency of Japanese robotics experts. So..s that work there. Are you familiar with the… KC: Oh. not trip over the cat on the floor. [laughs] So…turns out it was only about 43 years at that time. like it had millions and millions of little tiny bumps. we’ve had it for 50 years.. 20. and the right computer design to use.. Where in the world did these come from? We said: Hell. 30 computer chips working on 30 processes all at once. But once we figured out the right language to use. and much goes on there. weren’t the Japanese really advanced in terms of robotics? PP: Well. etcetera. I’m curious because I used to love robots. so I don’t know if you can even talk to this. The floor can be looked at digitally. KC: In the body of one robot? DW: In a chip. and sort of went on the Net and sort of studied. all using fuzzy logic.D.. yeah. It turns out the only logic that’s not fuzzy is fuzzy logic. etcetera. Then. what do they call that? . and was interested in how far they’ve progressed with all of that. The whole town is built around. you were working in Black Projects.. in the body of one little.. because it can sense the roll of the floor and move the wheels and so-forth so it doesn’t tip over. and when they saw my robots they said: My God. It’s a chip that can look at a number of different inputs.200 Ph. I think there are 2. basically the call on it was a fuzzy logic chip. which was one of the nation’s largest research centers. I got talking to some people who found out I was the one who built the manipulators. or it can be looked at analogue-wise. KC: That’s operating the robot? PP: That’s operating a robot. KC: I just have a curious question and we haven’t gone over this ahead of time. which is what the Atomic Energy Commission became.
PP: I mean. PP: Segway. I don’t know whether that’s true. then you use fuzzy logic to put it back right. KC: So. The Segway. right? PP: Well. you can think about that all you want to think about it. so this kind of segues into mind control. I’m actually a member of the Astronautics Association for Mankind. PP: I don’t know anything about MK Ultra. BR: Right. you simply have a sensor that senses whether you’re upright or not. KC: Okay. Is it true that you’re still on call for the government? PP: Well. and heard about it. [spells] F-O-R-T-H. what I was wondering… I think you were involved in MK Ultra and you can probably talk about that since it’s been declassified. I’m doing things all the time that I get calls on. actually. PP: I know that I worked in a lot of very interesting areas. I actually don’t know that much about it. computers wouldn’t take five characters. mainly because I have no desire to be with a bunch of clowns. KC: Which is? If you can say. KC: Okay. It should have been called F-O-U-R-T-H. but in those days.. and you worked with Hal Puthoff. KC: But you know that MK Ultra is declassified. because I also know that you worked with SRI [Ed. I’ve heard about it. PP: For example. why aren’t you on the board of directors for NASA if you’re on the Russian board? PP: Well. it would. because it was the fourth major programming language.DW: Segway. I really don’t know. six characters. rather. and heard about it. and I know that I researched some of those things. and who knows whether it’s true. So. It would have fallen out of the sky if it hadn’t had that kind of… PP: Yes. that’s the kind of stuff they put in the F-117. right? And I understand you probably knew Ingo Swann and a lot of the people involved in remote viewing. PP: Well. But other than that. I know some things that came out of it. KC: All right. and I built things that I thought were better and turned them over to the government. for a number of different governments. which is the Russian equivalent to NASA. It’s very simple to do. note: Stanford Research Institute]. And if you’re not upright. KC: Okay. I’m on the board of directors. BILL RYAN (BR): Presumably. . so they had F-O-R-T-H. the programming language that we use is called FORTH.. I don’t know anything about it.
the temperature-resistant plastics and metals. It should have been a circus. I worked in things like that. Yet they take that. I’d join a circus. but you said NASA’s a bunch of clowns. and got to see the things that came out of there. . KC: Really? PP: They may be. The camera that you’re shooting me on. I don’t know. but it’s basically a tin can going up in space. and not that there aren’t great people there. and you know that NASA is something of a front for… almost a distraction? PP: I haven’t been associated with them for years. basically even the whole transistor technology. I worked in and around that area. KC: Right. by the way. Now. not because they got paid good money. because all I have to do is look at the products they have. and totally mal-funded it. Why are they even dealing with that kind of technology at this point? Do you know? PP: Because they have it and it works. there isn’t a corporation ever in the history of mankind that returned so much on the investment. If you look at the things that came out of the space program through NASA. and they were sent into space. I’m sure.KC: Okay. which. It literally transformed our lives into a whole new century. They've had about. When finally Congress snuffled their dream. PP: If I wanted to be with clowns. and they recorded things from space. Why are you saying that? PP: Well. but because they got to accomplish their dream. People early on worked for NASA. We did the sampling arm that went on the Viking Lander to Mars. So. They have what I consider to be about 10% of the budget that they really ought to have. PP: I don’t know that they’re going on at NASA. large-scale integrated circuits. A number of different places. KC: Why are they still…? I mean. I got to see brand new things that were 20 years ahead of anybody on Earth actually applied. the image sensor in there was basically made for use in outer space. and things that were made from them. But there’s also a lot of Black Projects going on under the table. KC: Okay. which is the only success story that I think man really has. of the return on investment that came out of NASA. I know they’re going to retire the Space Shuttle any day. I worked with North American Rockwell. but they’re totally frustrated. you’re really aware of the secret space program. so I have no idea what they’re doing. probably 50 to 60 percent of the technology we use today throughout all industries came out of NASA: the metallurgy technology and alloys. was run by a FORTH-programmed computer. KC: JPL? PP: JPL.. even 10%. if you look at return on investment. Not that there weren’t great people there.. in essence. KC: So. That’s where they came from. part of the reason was that they wouldn’t pay the appropriate amount of money to get the brainpower that they needed. So. so now you had clowns working for NASA. maybe… It depends on how you look at reality. you know. My cousin and I did quite a number of spy satellites. they quit working for NASA.
The problem with it is that it works in such a manner that it will detect virtually every single type of thing in the universe. you’re treading a fine line. You told us. I’d love to do something with it. KC: So that’s why they destroyed it? . it has nothing to do with Wilhelm Reich. KC: Okay. That’s the good news. What that means is that it would be the best anti-collision device that ever went on board an airplane. PP: Now. because it could see every other airplane in the sky. that we have craft that go outside the Solar System. in a way. PP: Mmm… well. It’s a very simple. they smashed it immediately. or at least you talked to me at one point about being a spymaster. Can you say anything about that? PP: I know nothing about it. I told you the things that I’m [not] willing to talk about. [laughs] KC: And they are testifying that we have superluminal travel. It’s based on science. Actually.KC: What about your familiarity with things like superluminal travel? PP: My familiarity… hmm… Well. The best I know. KC: Well we have testimony from Henry Deacon and from Jake Simpson. KC: It's based on Wilhelm Reich's technology? PP: No. in essence. no. I don’t know anything about superluminal travel. a couple of what we call whistleblowers. KC: Okay. Okay. PP: The bad news is it can see any stealth plane just as easily as it can see a damned dirigible. KC: Okay. the President of the United States at that time. [laughs] Now you’re trying to get me to talk about them. KC: Okay. And it’s operational? PP: I have no idea when it’s operational. well. Where do you think that we can go with all of this? PP: Well. and eventually built one. KC: Really? Okay. Is that really true? PP: I don’t know a thing about that. KC: Who’s “they”? PP: The government. and uh… KC: All right. What do you know about a UFO detector? PP: I was asked to build a UFO detector when I was about 14. here’s a problem with it. inexpensive technology. is what you are at this point in your career. PP: Treading a fine line. which. in a way. we’re kind of striking out here. KC: Okay.
Okay. but you… PP: I can’t talk about it without telling the secret of it. PP: I’ve never seen one. KC: Oh wow. KC: Well I thought you… PP: Yeah. KC: Well. I mean… PP: I’m not about to tell the secrets of it. you told me they took it. KC: Okay. what did they do with it? I don’t know if they put it in their pocket or put it in the remnants of the Smithsonian.PP: I have no idea why they destroyed it. KC: But how could you tell? PP: Because of how it works. there was. I understand. It’s probably not healthy for you guys to talk about it. BR: Are you able to talk about that? Because that’s a fantastic story. BR: There’s another kind of detector which was destroyed upon Presidential order. KC: I understand that. they took it. because I’ve never… KC: Well. PP: Probably not. can we surmise that that’s why they destroyed it? PP: I have no idea. I’m just telling you that’s my feeling. But I’ve never seen one out there in operation. I could tell if there were one in operation. KC: How would you know that unless you’re operating… PP: I would know that because of how it works. KC: Well. I don’t know that it was destroyed. . not at all. PP: Yes. KC: You would know if somebody was operating your device? PP: I’d know if anybody was operating one of them. I don’t know what happened to it. or would you be… PP: No. KC: You have a tracking device on your invention? PP: It emits something that is absolutely unique to the device. So. would you remote view them.
as you say. so you want to see where the bullets are going and place them where you want them. Big Al. So there must-needs be some methodology to handle that. KC: Okay. So every fifth bullet goes out and you see a little red glow where the bullet’s going. nobody else builds. you feel that you’re protected? . I looked up and said: You and me. KC: Or not to take place. PP: I can remember one time in Vietnam. well I understand that you – and I don’t know if you can talk about this – but my understanding is that with robots. a gatekeeper’s a product that allows that to take place. PP: No.. I don’t ever replicate it. anyway. I don’t have any idea. do you feel that you’re protected? PP: Yes. nuclear devices. one thing you don’t want is your enemy to get hold of it and use it against you.. I remember about the third time. in our machine guns at least. KC: Are you able to say that you had a hand in creating some gatekeepers? PP: Oh. then I will tell you that I’ve had a charmed life. I have no idea about other levels. there’s a… Obviously it’s like with atomic bombs and hydrogen bombs. I created gatekeepers. when you say feel. or bought a lot of gatekeepers. KC: And to this day. or measure things that. And yes. as compared to know. I believe.. heretofore. [laughs] because I knew I was being kept alive. is a tracer so the machine gunner can aim his weapon because they’re jiggling and bouncing so much you can’t really use a sight well. with a weed-eater whipping up sparks. I want to kind of go into a different area that we haven’t really addressed at the moment. KC: Okay. But. I really can’t mention. and whether they use it there or not. There was no reason for me to be alive. manipulator or whatever. PP: Or not to take place. What they’re going to use them for. Anybody else builds something. with any kind of device that you’re operating using AI or any other kind of. I invent my own wheels. However. KC: Okay. and Cruise missiles and whatever. KC: Do you feel you’re protected on an Earthly level or on other levels as well? PP: Definitely on an Earthly level.. and all of this kind of thing. They were there for 13 months. PP: I build instruments that see things. I know that right now we’re in the process of negotiating a very large order for gatekeepers – what I call gatekeepers. that there sort of has to be a fail-safe or a command override such that… You call it a gatekeeper. KC: Would you call yourself sort of an inventor? How would you…? PP: I have always billed myself as an Instrument Maker. But. and I want to know if… because obviously. Fifty percent of the Marine officers I went to Vietnam with were killed while they were there. And remember that basically only machine guns fire tracer bullets.KC: Okay. standing in a firefight. and there’s some stuff that we’ve got off the record. or hear things. I don’t reinvent anybody’s wheels. I was there for 23 or 24 months. Every fifth round. all the way. I realize there’s a lot you’re not talking about. I just know they buy a lot of gatekeepers. I was in firefights where the tracers were so thick it was like you were in the middle of a 30-foot campfire that was down to the ashes.
KC: Can we talk about Bastard School at all? PP: Well. clearly. I’ve been charmed.O. BR: You can make a joke about Bastard School as well. PP: I used to go around with a piece of lead solder hanging out of my mouth. yeah. KC: Okay. And what was your experience with that? PP: Well. they had me teach anti-terroristic things. and charged them thousands and thousands of dollars to get rid of the mercury. KC: Well. Have you been threatened? PP: Oh.B. then they thought the enemy might learn what I was doing to disrupt being nasty. You know something about the mind. by just about every kind of person that would want to threaten me. is drop my IQ by 30 or 40 points. I get the biggest kick today out of… some kids spilled a little tiny bottle of mercury in a town nearby. green. KC: [laughs] PP: So. very obvious. that’s an assumption that we’re making. let’s say. All that did was drop my IQ another 10 or 20 points. I call it Bastard School. I got so good at it. yeah. . and somehow lived through all of it. able to communicate with people in their houses and so on. so forth. killing machine.K. but… BR: You can talk about Bastard School.A. they were afraid that the enemy would learn what I was doing that was nasty. they finally turned around and had me do some other things. getting that good lead. Terrorism School. yeah. I’ve been in other places that were even scarier than that. to invent things fast rather than slow. When I was an officer in the military. That’s a good one. instead of teaching terroristic things. I used to spill two or three ounces of mercury a day in my lab. probably. considering how high it is. KC: Okay. on the block. Because I was a mean. So. KC: You’ve dealt with mind control in some ways. I’ve been threatened a number of times. You know. DW: A. So then they moved me on to other things. mind control devices such as the digital television that is now projecting – you know. in some fashions. Hell. I was taught to be the biggest S. and they came and dug an Olympic swimming pool in their front yard and hauled all the dirt off. but… KC: But that didn’t really matter. and the only thing it did. that was what I was trying to get to. And I’ve done crazy things all my life. and about this information field. PP: Well. I’m wondering if there’s something within the information field and/or the mind-body interaction that can be set up to protect oneself against. I was trained in military things. because it scared them to death. and take it the hard way instead of the easy way.PP: Well. which was down in a basement. Then they – in both cases – one. and so forth. I must have spent 20 years with a piece of solder sticking out of the corner of my mouth.
a close-by signal. beneficial. It was also at a psycho-active frequency. it doesn’t. KC: It has to do with the informational field. KC: So. which was provided to all of our personnel that we needed to make sure had clear thinking. Oregon. It turns out that one of the places here they had it fall was in a town called Eugene. KC: This is all documented. They found a very simple way to find out what was beneficial. the signal’s very. After a very short distance. really? PP: Yep. I know that I carry one around. so that it would disrupt the appropriate thinking capabilities of the brain. It has to do with the electromagnetic field. It’s all documented on the Net. Also. As an example. People there were getting sunburns while they slept at night. I’m making that assumption. PP: Oh yeah. and you’re saying this person who invented it… you’re saying you’re not the person who invented it? PP: I didn’t say anything about it. a good friend of mine was the man who discovered they were bombarding the Moscow Embassy with microwaves that had much the same frequency content. KC: Okay. such that one can do it without the device if one learns? PP: Yeah. by the way. there was a fellow that designed a little device that you could wear under the collar. because it sounded like a woodpecker on the shortwave radio. You just use your mind to generate its own electromagnetic field at a benign frequency. and they were phased in a particular area. hopefully. So. KC: Oh. KC: So you use your mind to affect the electromagnetic field? PP: No. KC: To counter it? . ‘80s. remembering that electromagnetic waves decrease with the cube of the distance. the Russians had a thing that was. and they were having birth defects and so forth. you can learn to hold your mind pretty much in whatever mode you want. that they could carry with them and it would send a signal.. KC: Okay. or even a helpful frequency. was called the Woodpecker. in the probably.. So you put a weak signal near the person. very weak. and drive their mind into a range of brainwaves that would be benign or even. we can assume that the president and various people are using these devices to this day? PP: I would certainly think they would be. so they could move where the peak of that electromagnetic wave would fall. They had three large locations that were transmitting probably several million watts per location. and then a very simple way to tune the device so that it would put those waves out..KC: Right. and they were getting headaches. some technique? PP: There are things that were designed specifically. The Woodpecker had a very strong signal there and a highly interfering signal. not you. is that right? PP: No. on the Net. They were carried by all types of diplomats and military personnel for years and years and years. But there’s also a technique involved. So I’m just asking is there something..
Brainwave entrainment will drop the IQ. and what you’ll get is you’ll get heartbeat synchronization – which just occurs – and then you’ll get brainwave synchronization. eventually you’ll find where if you stop real quick. You get three or four people that are very close. It would move a weight up and down. it would start out very rapidly and slow down. you can cause a person to do things that they have no intention of doing. if you want to look at neuro-linguistic programming. up and down. with mind control. or fortunately. it’ll drop the attention span. what we use now is a thing that changes the way the brain is attached to itself. unfortunately. It would resonate with it.a number of things. you’ll hear the wineglass vibrating. depending on the situation. So. very powerful messengers. KC: And this is a medical fact. But that’s old-style mind control. you can very quickly and easily change that stimulus to when I get thirsty. Then if you play that note exactly. it won’t go very high. But. and you get an entrainment. and then affecting it one way or another? No? PP: No. right? PP: It’s a form of entrainment. what about the idea that you were telling us about the piece of the heart? You could cut off a piece of the heart and give it to somebody who would recognize it – a doctor – who would recognize it as a part of the brain.. KC: So. like a stimulus that would cause me to reach out and grab some water and take a drink because I was thirsty. If you push it out of phase. and then you get into trouble. It’s like if you have a wineglass here and you play your violin up scale. and then it would find where it was affecting the environment. using the principles of neuro-linguistic programming is much more powerful than getting a brainwave entrainment. in New York. and the way the brain hooks together. I’ll reach out and grab a glass of water and pour it down my neck. perhaps.. pour it down the front of my suit. KC: So. and it was a little weight. So. you get hormone production. You can make a stimulus that would cause one thing. There’s a very good book that anyone who has a child that doesn’t read this book. You want to get it resonant or in phase. or two people that are even closer. KC: It’s a form of entrainment.. If you push the swing in phase. What you want to do now. and we just change the neural pathways. and he’d make a skyscraper just wag like a dog’s tail. Nicola Tesla made a device that used compressed air. I’ll give you an example. no… no. Doesn’t have much to do with mind control. But part of what you want to do. is get your mind in a certain frequency. . pretty soon the wineglass will break. or have resonance on the… PP: It would appear to be brain tissue. and hormones are very. right? PP: It’s a medical fact. because … just a little bit… It’s like pushing a swing. so there are a number of things that can be done there. He could stick that on the ground outside of a skyscraper in New York and this thing would sense ground-wave oscillations and tune itself to them. You can cause a person to forget. and then low -. [laughs] or not. it’ll stop.PP: To counteract it. up and down using pneumatic pressure and pneumatic valving. So. isn’t this like sort of the kernel behind mind control? Getting a very slow resonance set up. the swing will go way high. Then.. that’s what Tesla’s device would do. it’ll go high. it’ll change the memory. Basically. a very weak signal can give you great entrainment.
Or children who are raised without a father never get the emotional – the male emotions – from the father. For example. the heart of the mother and the heart of the child are going to be right next to each other. KC: Really? PP: Yep. If the child is kept in that position for the first 12 to 14 hours. that’s part of it. the child’s already in a fluid. BR: We were talking about generating an IQ as high as 275 in the children. they thought: Well that may be true. or motherless. KC: But you’re saying it happens in the first 16 days. KC: An orphan. and he has follow-up books on it. fatherless child is ever going to amount to anything. KC: A fatherless child? PP: Well. why they can’t really become useful to society. is this the thing you were telling us about the heart? Being close to the heart? PP: It’s part of it. let’s put it that way. I can tell you that his techniques were used by Madonna in having her children. with contact with the mother. the child usually develops speech by six months of age and is able to stand on their own at six months of age. It’ll tell you why that can’t happen. after that… PP: The greater part of it happens in the first 16 to 18 days.. There are a number of different factors. KC: Well. to the breast. PP: It turns out. where a lot of women have their children raised by wet nurses who nurse them on their breast. and that field is modulated by what’s in the brain cells in the heart. I can tell you that her children are some of the most brilliant children on the face of the Earth because of that. that during the first 16 days or so after the amniotic fluid breaks. But one of the things that Pearce writes about in The Magical Child is. and they find out that the child takes on the emotional content of the wet nurse. KC: Can you talk about that Russian doctor? PP: I… unfortunately… I could if I remembered his name. the child is exposed to the electromagnetic field from the mother’s heart beating. The child starts picking things up. I can’t remember his name. The child’s born under water in the fluid about body temperature and moved up. for example. as compared to the female emotions.. It’s called The Magical Child by Joseph Chilton Pearce. that’s just part of it. PP: Right.should be jailed. it isn’t going to hurt him to be underwater for a while. I know that she worked using those techniques for a year to a year and a half before they were . [Kerry laughs] I’m serious. They found out that if the child is born underwater in a fluid – remember. ever. They went to Europe. Where. [spells] PE-A-R-C-E. PP: A child that’s raised outside of a normal family environment. the Russians did brilliant and massive research on this. for example. which are the emotions. and those emotions are transferred to the child. They can’t because their brain doesn’t form properly. He was brought to the United States. The Magical Child Matures tells you why that no center-city. KC: Incredible. That’s much more accurate. if you look at how you would naturally hold your arms and nurture a child. So.
read the book. PP: Very early on. you can call the pineal part of the brain. that information got out of the heart. if you want. Maybe another 10% occurs in the next 50 days. that acts like neurological tissue? PP: Oh. Anything near a magnetic field or an electric field that’s conductive. So. I’m not saying anything about the information field. but very early on as opposed to later. I’m saying the heart has an electromagnetic component that is there because the heart beats and it takes a large electrical current to beat the heart. and all of a sudden. absolutely.. The information – not the information field – the information transfers to the – just like programming a ROM chip – transfers to the heart of the child. but it leaked out to me. The heart rate picks up. Just by happenstance. their wife and their children didn’t even know who they were. has components that come from the things around it that are electric or magnetic or conductive. you can see that stuff in the heart field. the sight and the taste of mustard. A type of . and the brain picked it up. But. Children nurtured by one or the other have only the one component of their emotional make-up. one of the final proofs of this is: There was a man who absolutely hated the odor. is that right? PP: Well. KC: Okay. that came along with it. besides the heart. I want to go in another direction. adrenalins produced. PP: So. DW: So you’re saying that the heart has an information field component. A number of people were. or color are transferred and transmitted in there. So. it’s very important to get the child up into a nurturing position. SOBs. That information was encoded in there. which somehow entrains the formation of the nervous system? PP: No. just to become ready. As an example.. then they don’t have those fears and those angers. couldn’t get enough mustard. maybe what they see causes anger or fear. The greater part of it occurs in the first 16 to 18 days. in essence. maybe that’s 30%. it’s part of the brain. and when the nerves were sewn together and some of them grew back. KC: Okay. PP: The body is bioelectric. the wife of the donor somehow got word to him that her husband loved mustard. I don’t know that. So he had the heart. It may well be that the magnetic field of the heart transmitted. and all of a sudden. That could well be privileged information. And yes. BR: And it’s the first 16 days that does it. Even though it doesn’t do brain function. and got a heart transplant. I know that we instrumented peoples’ hearts and would let them see things that would excite them. DW: Okay. and I know it to be true. maybe another 10% in the next 180 days. then. You want to get that in there very early on. and so forth.conceived. Now. And if you anesthetize that part of the heart. The pineal and pituitary are mostly a substance called melanin. or were very tense individuals and they got a heart from a man who was a very calm man. They were a completely different person. KC: Okay. Children who were nurtured by both mother and father have both male and female components. that emotional information and some things like preferences in flavor. DW: Wait a minute – is there any other tissue in the body.
It should have been used in place of sperm whale oil for lubricating watches. bromine – mainly what they do in the body is congeal cholesterol into arterial plaque. and it makes a sensitivity by making a piece of scar tissue that opens up. we use fluorine for tooth decay. I. You can filter those out and the oil left over has very little or no taste to it. Get it cold. I don’t presume about what the Illuminati want to do. because we’ve killed all the fish. KC: What does that have to do with fluoride in the water? PP: What it has to do with is that that oil. I mean. 60% of the weight of the fish is liver. KC: Isn’t it true that fluoride deadens or hardens the pineal gland? PP: Absolutely. which contains a compound called “Activator X” by Price of the Price-Pottenger Foundation of years-ago fame. or opens the third eye. What it does is it gives it a hole through the Faraday Cage. PP: Yeah. and then they poke a bamboo skewer in and manipulate the pineal to “open” the third eye. fluorine. very. is stay to scientific things. but those boats could go out and bring back boatloads of this fish. and about 60% of the liver is that particular fish liver oil. so it’s always been attributed to clairvoyance. It coheres that for the person and they have certain abilities that they wouldn’t have. every-when.. The Tibetans drill a hole in the front of the forehead with a little rock drill. it slows down the blood flow in the arteries. it closes down the arteries. or remote influencing. or a number of different things. speaking in science terms. or remote viewing. I can tell you that the main thing that halides – which are chlorine. PP: What I try to do.. He found out right after World War II that one drop of that. which is highlyfishy-tasting. you can put in the sunlight and it won’t turn rancid for hundreds of years. but they’re bottom feeders. I won’t tell you the name of the fish. PP: But. That oil. KC: So.. Those are signals that are taken out of a signal that appears to be everywhere. there’s no tooth decay.. but they’re a slightly different kind of melanin. So there are many ways to sterilize water other than chlorine and fluorine. very good at picking up informational signals and adding a time content to them. for example. You have a whole fleet of boats up and down the West Coast of the United States and the East Coast of the United States that can’t fish anymore. but what it mostly hardens… KC: And since we have fluoride in our water. It’s a different oil. the seat of the third eye – is very. in Eastern medicine is the third eye. That’s a fish that consists of. It eliminates tooth decay. There are many ways. the waxes and false isomers will solidify.. KC: Okay. thus subtracting a non-time content. Well. it’s not cod liver oil. And they did this on thousands and hundreds of thousands of children in Europe after World War Two. It grows from Antarctica to [the] Arctic and everywhere in between. . that’s well known. KC: Is this cod liver oil? PP: No. you can take that fish oil.melanin makes the skin pigment. have found that the melanin in the pineal – which. clairaudience and so forth. but they didn’t use it for that. they say: Well.. one drop put in a slice of bread – eaten daily – and you [will] have no caries whatsoever. or opens clairvoyance or clairaudience. as a scientist. in my research. basically you could look at that as an Illuminati plot to deaden the intelligence and the psychic ability of the population. except there are bottom-feeders called.
Like I say. most of this audience has seen it. BR: When you said Price. you know. KC: Wow. Weston Price? PP: Weston Price. the reason that that fish oil doesn’t turn rancid is. and I’ll take the hit for this. if taken. did you mean Dr. But we didn’t do that. But I was curious.KC: And likewise you can guard against hardening of the arteries. Why else would you do that? DW: You're saying. you’re talking worldwide though.. By the way. It has a definite chemical formula. Because I have a whole long section in my video that everybody’s seen. for years. PP: They could have gotten rid of tooth decay with an absolutely benign substance that we had a whole industry here that could go out and bring us back all we could ever use for the whole world. It’s the best antioxidant known to man as far as I know. PP: Well. KC: Hmm.. very inexpensively and totally non-negatively in the body. would help to decalcify the pineal gland. So. you’re saying that this oil. all about the pineal gland. KC: Well. So it’s my conjecture they’re only… I mean the only reason I could see that we would be using that is to kill people off. so it’s not put out there because that isn’t efficient in our capitalistic system. It could definitely be put out there. PP: I wasn’t really naming the fish. it would eliminate tooth decay. KC: But you’re not naming the fish. yeah. PP: No. so that was taken from wheat germ oil. obviously. right? PP: Yeah. It’s my conjecture that the only reason we use chloride in the water was because the politicians have already spent all of the Social Security money. you know. Price called it Activator X. as well. Now. And that’s not the… KC: …not the main source. what happened was. You said something about. massive amounts. so you’ve got to have something there so that people die at retirement age. Now. it would be worldwide. we had to have something else that made it happen even faster.. yes it would. about the pineal gland. then you don’t get the hardening of the arteries from the fluoride or the chloride. Okay. that’s what it’s called in certain areas of the world. there’s camps being built around . But it’d eliminate most of heart surgery.. That's something. KC: Other than the ratfish that you just talked about? PP: No. so we put fluoride in the water. DW: Okay. we did it in Europe after World War II. but we took that Activator X. let’s put it that way. there’s a small amount of it in wheat germ oil. KC: [laughs] PP: Then because of health care getting better. or somehow increase its sensitivity? PP: If the pineal gland is calcified by halides. Now we found – I found – the ratfish had this stuff in. because it’s an antioxidant.
it’s obviously been done for some reason. the . such that they won’t tell us about incoming bodies? That’s all classified suddenly. say.. here’s a camp that’s built. KC: Okay. Wear a mask. It’s not my area of expertise. They’re camps to detain people. I didn’t realize that had been done. there are camps being built. I think all that advice is available if you just download it from the FDA websites or the various websites of. The town says Entering the Town on one side of the sign. they’re giving tours of some of them. that I don’t know about. We’re sitting here filming in an area that there’s not a lot of people. and what about the role of viruses in eliminating the population? Is there any validity to that? PP: I have no idea. and you go on the Internet and you’ll find out that there are a number of locations where people say: Well. KC: Really? PP: Oh. I know the government has a tremendous belief in: Whatever you do. Let’s talk about outer space a little bit. so what is it that you think is coming in the future in terms of. I’m planning for it. KC: What threat? PP: A threat from outside the planetary bounds. Because. KC: Okay. FEMA and Homeland Security. so have you got advice on how people can protect themselves from viruses? PP: Well. Right? That’s what your sources are telling you? PP: I think that’s a great possibility. Do you know the purpose behind them? PP: Yes. In other words. wash your hands. then it draws attention to the lawmakers. KC: Well. and 1st Street’s in some great big city somewhere else. And then. and you can verify that? PP: Well. PP: Well. and on the other side of the signpost.. I mean. they’re absolutely correct.. is the only threat… PP: Well it’s a major threat that we right now don’t have any deterrent for. KC: Okay. on top of it. don’t cause panic in the people.. Well. PP: Another good thing to do is go someplace [where] there’s not a lot of people. KC: Is this something that goes on the tail-end… because I’m looking for the agenda that goes behind the crash of the dollar. KC: Okay. I have suppositions. quite possibly. but if it’s been done. when you cause panic in the people. Do you think that there’s anything out there that we need to be aware of? PP: Well. KC: [laughs] Okay. is the only threat. the Senate. what about the satellites that have recently been classified. it says Exiting the Town.the United States. that basically you’re saying is coming at some point in the near future. I think there’re all kinds of things out there [that] we need to be aware of. because [laughs] there’s not another street. the Congress. And that reason may be to stop panic. KC: Well you clearly are a healer. absolutely.
we just had a very near flyby of a huge asteroid that would’ve caused. they’re boring as hell -. and we have nothing to stop something like that. you know. It came by very close. Our use of nickel-cadmium batteries.com and Google. or here and Pluto. but 100. and looking. KC: Okay.nothing’s going to happen. You know. you had to have worked with them in some of the military programs to understand how wise they are. Is it possible black people in black projects have something to stop that? [Ed. I don’t even know if you believe it’s possible to reverse the agenda that’s being rolled out at the moment. and the ruling party. PP: Okay. note: no reference to African-Americans intended] PP: No. You can go in there and start making searches. like. KC: And what about positive aliens? Do you think that they might interfere with something of that nature? PP: Well. rollout of what could be. and what about. because the Earth. and lead batteries. PP: Well I think that they are. I don’t believe so. You know. maybe that nearness was 100. and so forth. We’ve been out of money for years. I think that anything that might happen that would cause people to start thinking about: Well. and putting them out into the environment has killed a good part of the plankton. You’ve said we’ve got about ten months. I don’t believe they’ve had the money to build it.. and yet most of the oxygen’s produced by plankton. I mean. we’ve polluted our own nest. Here’re just a few things that you can look up.000 miles.. why isn’t something being done here? We’re out of money. and I look at the things we’ve done to destroy this fragile little spaceship that we live on going through space. thousands. and of course. a lot of things on. we talk about burning. if it had hit the Earth.com. I think that. I wonder. And it was a near flyby. Ask.Presidency.000 miles is sure different than the distance between here and Mars. reversing the agenda.. we talk badly about all the burning of the rainforests in Brazil. . try to live in times that are not at all interesting. so why let the people worry? KC: Okay. KC: Okay. Now. you’re saying we have nothing to stop something. KC: Okay. And self-sacrificial. but you were telling me something about the fact that you think there’s really only ten months left for the. KC: About? PP: About the things that you just spoke about. PP: If they did. Library of Congress or a lot of things now on YouTube. It could have been one of those things that hit the Earth.. if not millions of deaths on the Earth. and especially if you were able to come out with some of the more fascinating things that you’re involved in. So. and specifically you can find out that – oh.. well I’m going to have to wind this up. and you can find a lot of information. So we don’t have money to go do anything about it. sort of. KC: Because they’re that wise. There’s a tremendous amount of information. I look at Earth. And they’re not looking. it’s about a couple weeks ago. depending on where it hit. yeah. Cetaceans are beaching themselves so that there’s enough food left for the others. if there are such things as positive aliens.. and the things I talk about are things that are openly available on the Internet. You know. it’s like the old Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times. I would love to talk to you all night and all day. You know.
My suggestion is you do it. then you stand a very good chance of surviving it. you stand a very good chance of not surviving it. there always seems to be a robot involved with it.org bill@projectcamelot. you’re going to run into an emergency. I think that the data that you’ve given about the consciousness and the information field is really instrumental in my work. Your generosity enables us to continue our work. Thank you for your help. you got anything you want to add to that? DW: Well. KC: Okay. PP: Well. We are like ants: we may be hidden.make a donation: Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy Donations are not tax deductible for U. KC: Okay. citizens. but we create clean transcripts for your enjoyment and pondering. you usually found that with flying saucers. if you look at most of the movies. and if you don’t prepare yourself for it. because no matter what you do in life. kerry@projectcamelot. If you prepare yourself for it. You’re here. and David. because this stuff is not really hidden.. you want to say any closing words yourself? BR: I think this is the most important interview we’ve ever done. My suggestion is that you prepare yourself for an emergency. PP: I appreciate your interest – anything that can get information out to the people. I’m at a point in my life that the only thing I can do now to make my life worthwhile is to share the wisdom that I’ve obtained as a stone rolling through this interesting experience of life on Earth. It may be squirreled away somewhere.But Project Camelot wants to thank you very much. And my suggestion to the people is.S. trying to testify to something coming that you firmly believe that people need to be aware of. and I’m perfectly willing to share that information. You’ve clearly been involved in some things that are healing for the population out there. I really want to thank you again. and Pete Peterson. and so I want to thank you. [music fades in] PP: … been involved with trying to build flying saucers. but it’s there. and I hope we can continue that discussion.. All the transcripts that you find on both sites have been provided by the Transcription Team for the last several years.. Click here for the video interview **Transcript provided by the hard-working volunteer members of the Divine Cosmos/ Project Camelot Transcription Team. Pete.org . and you can go out and find the information for yourself. I just want to say I appreciate your courage for inviting us out here. I want to thank you for your service to humanity. Bill..** __________________________ Support Project Camelot . Thank you. I think that we’ll probably continue a relationship for a long time.
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