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Service Bulletin 08-017

Applies To: See VEHICLES AFFECTED April 2, 2008

Engine Knocks or Ticks at Idle

SYMPTOM WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION


The engine knocks or ticks at idle. The noise is usually In warranty: The normal warranty applies.
more noticeable when the engine is warm. Operation Number: 1100A1
Flat Rate Time: 2.7 hours
PROBABLE CAUSE Failed Part: P/N 95801-08060-08
The rocker shaft bridge has excessive clearance which H/C 4365128
causes the rocker shaft to rotate and make noise. Defect Code: 07405
Symptom Code: 09117
VEHICLES AFFECTED Skill Level: Repair Technician
2008 Accord 2-Door V6 A/T: Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
From VIN 1HGCS22..8A000001 thru expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
1HGCS22..8A004773 the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
Office. You must request consideration, and get a
2008 Accord 2-Door V6 M/T: decision, before starting work.
From VIN 1HGCS21..8A000001 thru
1HGCS21..8A027012
DIAGNOSIS
2008 Accord 4-Door V6:
NOTE: If you are viewing this service bulletin on ISIS
From VIN 1HGCP3...8A000001 thru and the computer has sound, click the image below to
1HGCP3...8A005150
hear an example of the noise.
2008 Odyssey EX-L/Touring:
From VIN 5FNRL38..8B000001 thru
5FNRL38..8B019499
From VIN 5FNRL38..8B400001 thru
5FNRL38..8B403623

CORRECTIVE ACTION
Loosen and retorque the rocker shaft bridge bolts.

PARTS INFORMATION
Flange Bolt (Use only if a bridge bolt fails):
P/N 95801-08060-08, H/C 4365128 1. Start the engine, and let it reach normal operating
temperature.
Intake Manifold Cover Gasket:
2. While the engine is idling, listen for a knock or tick.
P/N 17146-R70-A01, H/C 8647315
Use a stethoscope to find the location of the noise.
Intake Manifold Gasket (Accord Only): • If you hear knocking or ticking from either
P/N 17105-RCJ-A01, H/C 7956790 cylinder head, go to REPAIR PROCEDURE.
Intake Manifold Gasket (Odyssey Only): • If you hear a noise coming from another location,
P/N 17105-RCA-A01, H/C 7132293 continue with normal troubleshooting.

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CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools, equipment,
and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and you should not assume
this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this information applies, contact an
authorized Honda automobile dealer.
REPAIR PROCEDURE 2. Starting with the front cylinder head, loosen and
1. Remove both cylinder head covers: then torque each rocker shaft bridge bolt in the
sequence shown below. Torque bridge bolts 1 thru
• Refer to Cylinder Head Cover Removal in 8 to 26 N•m (19 lb-ft). Torque bridge bolts 9 and 10
Section 6 of the appropriate service manual, or to 24 N•m (18 lb-ft).
• Online, enter keywords COVER REM, then NOTE:
select the appropriate item from the list:
• The bridge is designed to crush around the
- Accord: Cylinder Head Cover Removal J35Z2 rocker shaft, so when torquing the bolts it may
or J35Z3 initially feel like the bolt is stripped. This is
- Odyssey: Cylinder Head Cover Removal normal; continue torquing bolts until the
J35A6 or J35A7 appropriate torque value is reached. Do not
replace the bolt, bridge, or the head.
NOTE: To ease removal of the cylinder head cover,
remove the power steering pump with its hoses • Do not over-torque the bolts. If you do, they may
connected. This allows access to the wire harness break and would need to be replaced.
mounting bolts. • The bridge bolts for VCM and V-TEC engines
have the same torque values and tightening
BREATHER sequences. Only VCM cylinder heads are shown
HOSE
in the illustrations.

FRONT
26 N.m (19 lb-ft)
7 5 1 2 6 8

HARNESS
HOLDER
MOUNTING
BOLTS

3 4
10 9
26 N.m (19 lb-ft)
24 N.m 24 N.m
(18 lb-ft) (18 lb-ft)

3. Repeat step 2 on the rear cylinder head.


HARNESS
REAR
24 N.m 24 N.m
ENGINE HARNESS (18 lb-ft) (18 lb-ft)
GROUND HOLDER 26 N.m (19 lb-ft)
CABLE GROUND BOLT 10 9
MOUNTING 3 4
BOLT

7 5 1 2 6 8
.
26 N m (19 lb-ft)

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4. Check the valve clearances, and adjust them if
needed:
• Refer to Valve Clearance Adjustment in Section
6 of the appropriate service manual, or
• Online, enter keywords VALVE CLEARANCE,
and select the appropriate item from the list.
- Accord: Valve Clearance Adjustment J35Z2
or J35Z3
- Odyssey: Valve Clearance Adjustment J35A6
or J35A7
5. Reinstall the cylinder head covers:
• Refer to Cylinder Head Cover Installation in
Section 6 of the appropriate service manual, or
• Online, enter keyword COVER INS, then select
the appropriate item from the list.
- Accord: Cylinder Head Cover Installation
J35Z2 or J35Z3
- Odyssey: Cylinder Head Cover Removal
J35A6 or J35A7
6. Reinstall all removed parts.
7. Start the engine, and let it reach normal operating
temperature. Make sure the noise is gone.

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