YAVAPAI COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
Firrn No. 00048700
Susan L. Eazer, SBN 013525
Deputy County Attorney
255 East Gurley Street
Prescott, AZ 86301
(928) 771-3344
yeao@yavapai.us
Attomeys for STATE OF ARIZONA
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA
IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF YAVAPAI
STATE OF ARIZONA, CAUSE NO, P1300CR201600966
Plaintiff,
NOTICE OF FILING TRANSCRIPT OF
Ys. DONALD LINDBLAD
THOMAS JONATHAN CHANTRY, Assigned to Hon. Bradley Astrowsky
Defendant.
The State of Arizona, by and through Sheila Polk, Yavapai County Attomey, and her
undersigned deputy, hereby submits the Transcript of the Interview with Donald Lindblad which
was mentioned in earlier pleading in this matter.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED this_/£7. day of July 2018.
Sheita Polk
Yavapai County Attomey
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Susan L. Eazer
Deputy County AttorneyeNOnrYNn=
COPY of the foregoing emailed and hand delivered this
14 day of July 2018, to:
John M, Sears
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State of Arizona v. Thomas Chantry
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Telephonic Interview with Pastor Don Lindblad
Interviewer(s): All Present
Date: March 21, 2018
Present: Susan Eazer Yes = Uh-huh
John Sears No = Huh-wh
Pastor Don Lindblad
LINDBLAD: .,.certain of that date but it’s been
within the last year.
FAZER: Oh, you're talking about January this
year?
LINDBLAD: No, it’s, no. Now 1/m confused.
FAZER: You said you thought...
LINDBLAD: Alright.
FAZER: -..they - they had disappeared...
LINDBLAD: Yeah.
EAZER: ssn Ja--, about a year ago and you said
in January so are you talking about last January?
LINDBLAD: Yeah. Yeah. I - I thought it was a year
ago but it may have been this January.
BAZER: ‘Cauge that’s just a couple months...
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LINDBLAD: Uh, the more
EAZER: .. ago.
LINDBLAD: ...1 think about, that - that they, that
I learned they had disappeared.
BAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: I do not know when they disappeared.
EAZER: So, you think you learned about this in
January.
LINDELAD: I think 80, yes.
EAZER: And you learned about it how?
LINDBLAD: IT was talking to the administrative
assistant, uhm, and I don’t recall, uhm, why we were
talking, probably having to do with foreign missions,
I’m involved in that and she knew, she’s worked for more
than a decade in the office, knew that I had been in
Prescott in 2000, and mentioned it to me, uhm, I believe
I had been on the Administrative Council at that time
and she would have known that.
EAZER: And this is Vicky who mentioned it to
LINDBLAD: Correct.
BAZER: And was this just an idol conversation
about hey, did you hear those, uh...
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LINDBLAD: Mmm...
EAZER: --.the file of the, of Tom Chantry who's
pending criminal charges disappeared?
LINDBLAD: ...T - I w--, I we-, I don’t remember the
context but I wouldn't say that it was, uhm, an idol
comment. Probably in the context of our association's
concern, uhm, uh, with regard to what has been taking
place in his life and in the life of, wh, wh, of, uh,
some of our churches as a result of that.
EAZER: Okay. And, wh, can you expand on that,
what is the concern about what’s happening in his life
and - and in - in - in the churches in your association
as a result of that?
LINDBLAD: Well people are reading the blogs, uhm,
and are coming to their pastors asking questions, uhm,
about it and, uhm, there have not been reading the
materials that are - are, that are, uh, not archived
because they’xe gone but there are minutes that could be
accessed which reflect, uhm, the receiving of reports
from, uhm, again, the various persons beginning with the
councilors of the Investigative Committee, the, uh,
subsequent reports that were sent to, uhm, uh, the
office, uh, that were minuted and were available to
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anybody in addition to the, ubm, documents that were
signed.
EAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: So, that was probably the context then,
uhm, this is not something we experience, uh, in our
association of churches on a regular basis so.
FAZER: Alright. And can 1, can I assume ‘cause
we're probably, I’m gonna probably kind of go back and
walk through this kind of step by step but I, can I
assume that some of the, uhm, I’m trying to figure out a
good word, some of the displeasure about hearing about
this was as a result of Thomas Chantry having been
continuing to be a - a - a reverend in 9 church where ~
where some of these people who are upset were attending
after this all happened out here?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, no.
EAZER: People didn't come forward and say hey,
this man was around my kids, why wasn’t I ever informed
that there had been this investigation, you know, before
I, you know, chose to go to the church that he was
servicing?
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LINDBLAD: N--, no, the context would have been
different, uhm, it would have been subsequent to his
arrest and...
FAZER: That’s what I mean...
LINDBLAD: ...and...
EAZER:
...after he had been arrested...
LINDBLAD: Yeah, but most...
EAZER: ...and it all came out were there people
who were unhappy because they had attended churches
where he was the reverend and also let their children I
guess be, you know, around him and were not aware of -
of what had happened prior to his arrest?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, uh, uh, no, because, whm, he was,
wh, not a pastor and not in that position in any church
until he went to Hales Corners, uhm, the destress was
that, ubm, uh, and again, everyone has access to the
minutes of the investigative, not the minutes of the
committee but rather the - the results of it on
subsequent reports. Uhm, no, it was distress over the,
uhm, amplified charges, uhm, uh, and sorts of things
that are, uh, coming out on the blogs, reading blogs
rather than minuted reports.
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EAZER: And - and when you say everyone had
access to these mintued reports do you know when they
disappeared?
LINDBLAD: Well no, we're talking, wh, two sets of
do--, different sets of documents. Uhm, that the - the
documents that everybody signed, uhm, those were sealed,
uhm, but upon request some of them could be viewed,
that’s one set. Those are the ones that have
disappeared. I’m talking about the minutes that are
printed, every Administrative Council meeting, uhm,
every smaller committee for admissions, publications,
policy and constitution, uhm, and then the annual
general assembly minutes are printed and distributed.
Now most of it’s electronic but, uhm, everyone has
access to those. Those are still available.
EAZER: And - and you yourself have all of the
documents, the minutes and the documents that were
sealed?
LINDBLAD: The reason I have that is because there
was only one set left and, uhm, because T keep
documents, wh, they were given to me and that - that was
from Pastor Tom Lyon. Other than that, I’ve had
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everything all along, I was entitled to have everything
all along.
BAZER: But my question again is you - you're
quite confident you have every single document including
the sealed documents and all the minutes?
LINDBLAD: Yes.
EAZER: And tell me again, why you would, why you
were the one person that would have all of those
including the sealed documents?
LINDBLAD: Well I would have had all the documents
anyway and the sealed document was the parents’, uhm,
re: uhm, material, uhm, I was given by Pastor Lyon
because I was asked to help a church, uhm, that was
struggling, uhm, uh, a--, and - and - and, uh, uhm, with
what was going on and it was, had the potential for
splitting the church and I was asked to come in and to,
uh, uh, and to help them sort out fact from fiction at
least as far as the documents, unm, but I never
revealed, I’ve never printed them, I’ve never revealed
them, nobody else...
BAZER: Well...
LINDBLAD: ...has them.
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EAZER: -..well T’m - I’m not, I’m not following
you, why would you need the documents from, the sealed
documents from this investigation to go help with a
dispute in another church that was...
LINDBLAD: Because...
EAZER: ...threatening to break it up?
LINDBLAD: ...because they had access to ‘em through
the internet.
EAZER: Wow, oka’
LINDBLAD: Most of, most of this is now put on the
internet.
FAZER: Alright. I'm, I - I’m really - really
lost and T apologize because I - I didn’t, I didn’t know
much of this information. vh, let me, let me back up
and ask you, how — how, I’m - I’m assuming you've told
Mr. Sears about all this... correct?
LINDBLAD: Correct.
EAZER: Okay. How many times do you think you've
talked to Mr. Sears?
LINDBLAD: Ohm, probably on the phone, uh, I am
guessing twice. TI have, uh, I was there for the hearing
in May. I was in, I was, wh, in the courtroom in May
and that was when I first met him.
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EAZER: Uh-huh.
LINDBLAD: And I would say two or three times and,
uh, no more than half a dozen emails perhaps.
FAZER: Okay. So, run, T want to be more
specific so you met with him in May when you were out
here... correct?
LINDBLAD: Correct.
ERZER: Was anybody present with, and - and you
shared some of this information we/re talking about with
him at that time?
LINDBLAD: Yes.
FAZER: Was anybody else present at the time you
shared this information?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, well his wife.
EAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: Uhm, and, uh, Karen Chantry and Al Huber
were present.
FAZER: Do you recall if that conversation was
tape recorded?
LINDBLAD: Uh, I’m sorry, T did not hear you.
FAZER: Do you recall if that conversation was
tape recorded?
LINDBLAD: I do not know.
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FAZER: And so, that’s one time you met him in
person, was there other times that you have met with Mr.
Sears in person?
LINDBLAD: No.
EAZER: So, that occasion you talked, uhm, just
once or did you talk more than once while you were in
town?
LINDBLAD: I was only in town for the day.
EAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: And the conversation had to do with the
hearing that day.
FAZER: Okay. You've had two phone conversations
with Mr. Sears and then you said several emails?
LINDBLAD: To the best of my recollection.
EAZER: | Have you provided him the documents we!re
talking about today?
LINDBLAD: Yes.
BAZER: When did you provide him those documents?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, I’m guessing again, uhm, in November
of last year.
FAZER: This past November?
LINDBLAD: Correct.
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EAZER: And you, and provided him all the
documents including the sealed ones?
LINDBLAD: I think so.
EAZER: Is there any, uhm, confidentiality issues
with the sealed documents that you provided him?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, no
EAZER: why were they sealed if there wasn’t
confidentiality issues?
LINDBLAD: Oh, well they - they were s--, they were
to be sealed until, they were to be sealed unless Mr.
Chantry had repeated what he had done and they had,
subsequently were made public.
EBAZER: What - when were they made public and
why?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, in - in the binder from Miller
valley. The alleged red binder had all of those
documents.
EAZER: Do, how do you mow that for certain?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, just from the internet and police
reports.
BAZHR: Do you feel confident that the red binder
that was given to the police had all of the documents?
LINDBLAD: Yes.
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EAZER: Okay. You said that’s all been put on
the internet?
LINDBLAD: Well that’s my, you know, T don’t search
the internet much but that’s been my understanding, yes.
EAZER: And where on the internet might one find
that?
LINDBLAD: That I couldn't tell you, uh, the
bloggers that have, uhm, been, uhm, that have been, uhm,
uhm, enter - entering into all of this with the
information that would only come from these documents,
it couldn’t come from any place else.
FAZER: Well if T told, well do - do you have any
idea how bloggers would bave gotten ahold of those, uh,
those documents?
LINDBLAD: I can oniy speculate but no, I don’t
know.
EAZER: What would your speculation be?
LINDBLAD: Well, uh, I don’t know, some, but they’ re
only, they're, either the, uh, well I - I’d rather not.
EASER: Well...
LINDBLAD: Just because I don’t know, if I, if I
speculate and I’m wrong then that wouldn't be fair.
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EAZER: Have you told Mr. Sears who you think has
distributed these documents?
LINDBLAD: I don’t recall.
EAZER:
Well do you think you have?
LINDBLAD: Uh, ask the question again, I'm sorry.
FAZER: Do you think you've told Mr. Sears who
you think has perhaps distributed these docurents on the
internet?
LINDBLAD: I don’t believe so. No.
BAZER: Are you refusing to tell me who you think
has done it?
LINDBLAD: No.
FAZER: Who do you think has done it?
LINDBLAD: Well again, there are only about three or
four sources who would have distributed that ‘cause
there’s only three or four people that would have them.
The parents, the church, Bob $elph and whoever took them
out of the, uhm, archive.
FAZER: Do you have any idea who took them out...
LINDBLAD: I - I’m not being.
BAZER: -..0f the archives?
LINDBLAD: ...I/m not being evasive, I - T don’t
know.
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FAZER: Do you have any information who might
have removed these documents from the archives?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, only a rumor and, uh, that wouldn’t
be fair to the person if I couldn’t demonstrate with,
uh, some degree of certainty that it was a particular
individual.
BAZER: Well this could be really important to
the investigation, I’m certainly not gonna hold you to
your word but who do you think took them out of the
archives?
LINDBLAD: Well could I respond by suggesting you
make a phone call to someone else?
EAZER: Well...
LINDBLAD: (Inaudible) that...
EAZER: seeTeee
LINDBLAD: ...I/m not...
EALER: ..-I’d vather get the information that
you have from you and then I’d love to also find out who
else you think I could talk to about this.
LINDBLAD: Well I have been told, uhm, by several
people that it was Bob Selph.
BAZHR: And would that be in an attempt to assist
Mr. Chantry or to put this stuff out on the internet?
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LINDBLAD: I don’t know if he would have put ‘em out
on the internet ox not, uhm, I don’t know what his
motive was.
EAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: I’ve had no contact with him for at least
two years.
FAZER: The, uhm, documents that you sent to Mr.
Sears did you send those via email or - or regular mail?
LINDBLAD: Regular mail.
FAZER: Would you send a complete copy of what
you sent to Mr. Sears to my office?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, (inaudible}...
SEARS: He gave that discovery that was
(inaudible) .
EAZER: Well, uhm, uhm, sorry, John, you got the
discovery that way, I’m certain I’m entitled to exactly
what he provided you...
SEARS: You can ask (inaudible)
EAZER: ...in the same fashion,
SEARS: ...under the rules.
EAZER: Really?
SEARS: (Inaudible)...
EAZER: what - what...
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SEARS: - (inaudible)...
FAZER: seo, wait - wait - wait - wait~ wait ~
wait, John, what rule? Because this i
ny interview,
he’s given you documents which quite frankly you should
have disclosed to me but what rule are you citing to
that says I don’t get these documents, please tell me?
SEARS: Well...
FAZER: | Are - are they confidential somehow, D...
SEARS: We're = nots going «= to. shave ~— that,
discussion...
EAZER: Sir, I'm asking, I’m asking you,
Reverend, would you send me the complete set of
documents that you sent to Mr. Sear:
SEARS: I’m instructing, he is my witness, Sue,
you know that.
FAZER: You’ye instructing him not to? Let me, I
want to make sure that that’s what you’re doing, John.
SEARS: Uh, I’m telling you that if you make a
proper request to me T will consider the request and T
will disclose what documents I think are (inaudible)...
EAZBR: Well, okay, never mind we're not gonna
waste any more time in this interview but, sir, what I'm
gonna ask you to do, uhm, Pastor, is I’m gonna ask you
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to please make sure you maintain the exact same set of
documents that you gave to Mr. Sears, uh, you know, in
the same exact order and fashion that you disclosed them
because I’m going to ask the court to order you to
disclose them to the State, I’m not going to request
that Mr. Sears share with me what he thinks I get. So,
can you, will you please at least a vow to me that you
will keep those documents, all of them that you
disclosed to Mr. Sears until I get a court order?
LINDBLAD: I keep all documents...
EAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: ...always.
FAZER: Alright. I just want to make sure since
some have disappeared and I’m - I’m just learning of
this that we don’t have any issues, uhm, because I don’t
believe Mr. Sears has any authority to order you not to
disclose documents but we’ll take that up in court.
LINDBLAD: Okay.
EAZER: So, I want to kinda back up now, uhm, the
documents that you have, tell me what in general they
are, you've said they are the sealed documents which
what - what does that consist of?
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LINDBLAD: Well there was a document that was, uhm,
which gave council, uh, uh, to, uhm, all of the parents,
to the elders and to Tom Chantry. Uhm, and to Bob Selph
and to Walt Chantry. Uhm, Tom Chantry was not the only
one who was given a way forward, he was given a way
forward by the coune: by - by the Investigative
Committee, uh, we recommend that you do this - this -
this and this which he did completely.
EAZER: And we’re gonna talk about...
LINDBLAD: Cou...
EAZER: s..that too but keep going.
LINDBLAD: ...uh, council - council was given to the
parents, to the elders, that’s the sealed document.
EAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: Then there was a document which you have
seen because, uh, you had it in May in the courtroom,
the one that, uhm, everyone signed, uhm, which had to do
with the way forward for Mr, Chantry. Uhm, then there
is a very brief announcement that was sent to the
churches by the councilors or the investigative
committee, uhm, uh, indicating, wh, that a council had
been held, ubm, uh, and that, uh, persons who were
invelved, not the individual parents but the names of
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the, wh, committee, uh, and so forth and where it was
and that - that it was concluded and the differences
between the elders of the Miller Valley Baptist Church
and Thomas Chantry had been resolved and recommendation
of the council had been adopted by the parties. Then
there are the subsequent reports sent by Tom Lyon, the
pastor of the church that he had joined, uh, indicating
that Tom bad complied, that was set a year and a half,
uh, after the council and then...
EAZER: That's part...
LINDBLAD: ...the cou...
BAZER: ...0f the packet that you have, the
information from - from p--, uhm, John Lyons which said
he had done everything he was supposed to do?
LINDBLAD: Correct. And then the letter, and then
the report from the councilor, the, @ Christian
councilor who was also, uh, a - @ Ph.B., uh, nurse in
mental health, uhm, who's now the assistant dean of the
school in Oregon, uh, there is that letter or that.
BAZBR: What...
LINDBLAD: ...report as well.
FAZER: -.what is the Christian councilor’s
name?
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LINDBLAD: Devin Berry.
BAZER: BERR Y?
LINDBLAD: Correct.
BAZER: And she’s the councilor that did Mr.
Chantry’s counseling?
LINDBLAD: Yeah, he.
FAZER: He, okay
LINDBLAD: Yes.
EAZER: And...
LINDBLAD: He was in...
BAZER: .. that...
LINDBLAD: Go ahead, I’m sorry.
FAZER: Uh, Ifm sorry, that person’s in Oregon
you said?
LINDBLAD: Now. Was in Washington State at the time
and is now living in Oregon the last I heard, I’ve not
had contact with him in many years but the last I heard,
wh, whm, that’s where he was living.
EAZER: Do you know where in Oregon?
LINDBLAD: Uh, the Portland area I believe.
EAZER: Okay. And, uh, so there’s the signed
documents, the letter from, the documents from Tom Lyons
and the report from Devin Berry talking about the steps
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that were taken by Tom Chantry when he went to
Washington State following this incident... correct?
LINDBLAD: Correct.
EAZER: | And what else is contained...
LINDBLAD: Uh...
EAZER: ...in that packet?
LINDBLAD: ...and, uh, the, uh, contact five years
late i 1 aD.
EAZER: And I'm gonna ask you about that very
specifically ‘cause T know you were involved in that but
what else? And that’s...
LINDBLAD: Uhm...
FAZER: ...that’s, oh, so what's - what’s in, ub,
with respect to that contact, what kind of
documentation?
LINDBLAD: Uh, fron QD? Uh, I'm sorry?
EAZER: Yeah, from that me--, from that contact
that you and, uh, Mr. Chantry had with, uh...
LINDBLAD: Uhm...
EAZER: - 7.
LINDBLAD: .,.uhm, the letter is, uhm, that w--,
ubm, in which he initiated contact with Tom.
EAZER: Letters from...
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, the, I can't,
three of them.
BAZER:
LINDBLAD:
EAZER:
LINDBLAD:
ERZER:
LINDBLAD:
EALER:
Uhm...
Correct.
Okay.
He initiated contact.
How many...
And.
letters from @@lll——l do you believe...
Uh, I think I have three but I can’t re--
I - I want to, I think there - there are
Well...
And do you have those...
ss.there is...
--.with you today?
I’m sorry?
Do you have those with you today?
Well I have all of it right here, yes.
Okay. ‘Cause, yeah, we’re gonna talk
shout the QUNNNNNND specifically ‘cause that was one
of the things
you were disclosed with but so there’s
letters fron @@ND, what else relating to that
communication?
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LINDBLAD: Uhm, and my notes, uhm, from the phone
conversation that, uhm, is a three-way phone
conversation.
FAZER: Okay. Uhm, again, we’re gonna come back
to that so keep those handy but what else is con-
contained in this whole packet of documents that you
have?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, that’s basically, uhm, uh, basically
it plus the, again, the minutes. Uhm, there’s a letter
that, uh, there's a report, uhm, that was read at our
general assembly last year, uhm, again, in view of this
surfacing again. Uhm, and, uh, a report that I wrote,
uhm, and that’s basically it...
EAZER: what kind...
LINDBLAD: ... (inaudible).
EAZER: ...0f a report did you write?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, I was asked by the chairman of the
Administrative Council to write up a report, uhm, of,
uhm, how the, how the proceedings went, uhm, in...
EAZER: The - the proceedings...
LINDBLAD: ...{inandibl
EAZER: ++-back in 2000?
LINDBLAD: Correct.
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BAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: And that’s ba--, that’s, wh, uhm, oh, and
then there’s a, uh, an email from Randy Jameson, uh, who
was the pastor, uh, following, wh, uh, Tom Chantry who
initiated contact with Tom Lyon, uhm, and...
EAZER: But...
LINDBLAD: ...it was... I’m sorry?
EAZER: Oh, go ahead.
LINDBLAD: Uh, it was, uh, uh, just as Tom was, ub,
as the letter, uhm, wh, surfaced, uhm, uh, from, uh, uh,
Tom Lyon to the association, wh, concerning Ton’s
compliance, ubm, and, uhm, Pastor Jameson called him and
asked if he and the same two elders, uh, Rich Howe and
Eric, uhm, Owens, uh, if they could have a four-way
conversation and, uh, Tom Lyon said, yes, and, uh, when
the time came, wh, the two elders, uh, were not present,
it was just, wh, Randy and they, wh, had a pleasant
conversation and (inaudible)...
EAZHR: Who had a pleasent conversation with
Randy?
LINDBLAD: Tom and Randy...
FAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: ...Tom Lyon.
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EAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: And, uh, and the record states that -
that he, that is, uh, speaking for the church stated
they have no further interest to pursue the issue and
are settling down to deal with the present, how can we
pray for Tom and that was dated 4/4/2002. So, basically
that’s the kind of information that I have.
EAZER: Okay. Now do you consider this
information to be confidential or privileged in any way?
LINDBLAD: Well I've only distributed it as
necessary to, uhm, Tom's attorney, uhm, and, uhm, have
used the material but not distributed it in
conversations with, uh, uh, a couple of our churches
that were having some difficulty over this. Again,
people in the church hearing what the bloggers are
saying and so I’ve had conversations with pastors.
EAZER: So, did you have any concerns turning
over the entire package to Mr. Sears, I mean, uh, was
there a reason why m--, why - why Tom Chantry’s attorney
should be entitled to have all that information but not
other people who may have an interest in this case?
LINDBLAD: I don’t know how to answer that question.
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EAZER: Well did you have any concerns turning
over the whole packet of information to Mr. Sears?
LINDBLAD: No.
EAZER: Is there any reason that you can think of
in your position and in your capacity of keeping charge
of these documents that you believe that Tom Chantry is
entitled to them but others are not?
LINDBLAD: Uh, well others receive the informat-~,
if you're referring to yourself, I’m not an attorney and
wouldn’t know how to answer that. Uhm...
EAZER: Well did you consult with an attorney
before turning them over to Mr. Chantry’s attorney
LINDBLAD: No.
EAZER: Did you consult with anybody before
turning the entire packet over to Mr, Chantry’s
attorney?
LINDBLAD: I do not recall. Tt could have been
someone in the administration of our association but
that I do not recall.
FAZER: $0, what if a police officer came and
asked you for that information would you have had any
qualms turning it over to a police officer?
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LINDBLAD: I would probably have consulted with an
attorney.
EAZER: And what I’m trying to ask you, sir, is
why then if it would have, if a police officer came to
you and said they needed that information for an
investigation why would you have consulted with an
attorney but why did you not feel the need to when you
were turning it over to Mr. Chantry’s attorney?
LINDBLAD: I don't have an answer for that.
EAZER: Are you trying to help Mr. Chantry?
LINDBLAD: Uh, well T would, T would say yes.
FAZER: Okay. So, again, you wouldn't, didn’t
have any hesitation or didn’t feel the need to consult
with anybody before turning all that information over to
Mr. Sears but you would have had had an issue or a
concern turning it over to the police or someone else?
LINDBLAD: Well I - I initially handed over
information that was already public, in fact I haven’t
really given him anything that isn’t public.
FAZER: Well you told me you gave him the whole
packet, everything so you're quite confident the whole
packet is public?
LINDBLAD: Yes.
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EAZER: And so, why then if a police officer
asked you for the same packet that you gave to a defense
attorney would you have concerns sufficient enough to
check with an attorney before handing it over to a
police officer even though...
LINDBLAD: It...
EAZER: seedt’s all public?
LINDBLAD: ...it would have been I think the timing
is important. I would have, I would have checked with
an attorney if the documents were still sealed.
EAZER: Well were they still sealed when you
turned them over to Mr. Sears?
LINDBLAD: They were not sealed at that time.
EAZER: Okay. So, is there some unfic--
unofficial or official unsealing of these documents?
LINDBLAD: Well it’s, they disappeared and again,
these are the documents that have, were - were turned
over, uhm, uhm, wh, wh, to the police in Prescott what
now two years ago. They're the same documents.
ERZER: Well we don’t have the minutes just to be
clear we didn’t, we don’t have all of the documents, the
police didn’t have all of the documents and all the
minutes of the stuff that happened afterwards. We don’t
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have anything about Mr, Chantry’s counseling afterwards
if he in fact did all the counseling as you suggested so
that - that’s not all part of the red binder. $0,
again, going back to my question I had asked you if why
it is that you would have had no issue or had no issue
apparently turning over all of these documents to Mr.
Sears but would have an issue turning them over to a
police officer and you said the timing may be important.
Uhm...
LINDBLAD: Well because of a sealed document,
there’s only one sealed document that was never to
surface and that’s the one that was turned over two
years ago. ‘he rest of them are for certain eyes and/or
for everyone.
EAZER: Okay. 30...
LINDBLAD: And so, whatever the legality is in terms
of what you ought to see I certainly will comply with.
EAZER: Well but I guess what I’m trying to
understand and T do not mean disrespect, sir, is why was
there no concern about what Mr. Sears should see? Do
you see that Tom Chantry has more rights in this case oz
to those documents than the - the people who are
investigating him?
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LINDBLAD: I honestly don’t know how to answer the
question.
EAZER: Do you think, six, that the fact that you
are close friends with Tom Chantry’s father and close
friends with Mr. Chantry in any, you know, uh, impacted
the, your - your I guess lack of concern that to, that
you just turned over all those documents to his
attorney?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, I’11 have te think about what you're
saying, I don’t, I - I believe that what was done in
2000, was fair, was equitable and was appropriate for
all parties and what I’m hearing and reading at the
moment. the matter has escalated and therefore I did what
I did.
FAZER: Well you did it to assist Mr. Chantry.
LINDBLAD: Yes.
FAZER: | And so, again, my question is do you, do,
you know, do you think that was proper for you to turn
over a package of documents that you would consult with
an attorney before turning them over to 2 police officer
or the authority but you just handed them over without
question to Mr. Chantry's attorney to help him?
LINDBLAD: Uh, I guess I thought it was appropriate.
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FAZER: Okay. But your answer still would remain
the same that you would consult an attorney before
turning them over to a police officer for purposes of an
investigation?
LINDBLAD: Well I woulda’t have had access to
materials that the police would have been interested in.
EAZER: Well no, I’m saying...
LINDBLAD: Uh, that’s...
BAZER: the same documents that you have and
have said you’ve had all long, T asked you if a, if a
police officer...
LINDBLAD: Well those...
BAZER: s..came to you and said, wh, will you
turn over the exact documents that you gave to Mr. Sears
you said you would consult with an attorney first.
LINDBLAD: Well because I had the sealed document
now but the other documents I - I probably would have,
yes.
FAZER: But you said you’ve always had the sealed
document?
LINDBLAD: No, I have not.
FAZER: Uh, wh...
LINDBLAD: Only in the last few months.
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EAZER: Okay. I was mistaken, I thought you said
you always had the sealed...
LINDBLAD: No.
EAZER: . document.
LINDBLAD: No, the ones that we signed and all of my
correspondence and my notes from various meetings I’m
certain I would have turned that over. But T did not
have the sealed document, it was sealed and it was not
to be, uhm, revealed, uhm, because of its sensitivity
unless Mr. Chantry repeated what he had done in Prescott
and then it was revealed and so it became public and
then it disappeared.
EAZER: Well but...
LINDBLAD: And at that point...
EAZER: -..how did you - you got it...
LINDBLAD: ...uh, at that point
EAZER: before it disappeared right? I'm
confused because you said it just...
LINDBLAD: Uh...
EAZER: ...disappeared but yet you have it?
LINDBLAD: No, I think I got it at the same time,
about the same time.
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EAZER: The same time that it disappeared you got
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LINDBLAD: I think so, yes.
EAZER: Where did you get it from?
LINDBLAD: But I - I?m not certain. from Pastor
Lyon who had it, who had access to it because he was the
church that Mr. Chantry had attended.
EAZER: So, Pastor Lyon had it, he gave it to you
around the same time that it disappears from the
administrative office?
LINDBLAD: Correct. That’s correct now that I
think, that's correct.
FAZER: How do you know Pastor Lyon...
LINDBLAD: It just...
EAZER: s..didn’t take it? How did he get it?
LINDBLAD: Uh, he would, because he had it from the
very beginning. It was distributed, uhm, selectively to
the parents, to the elders, to the church that h--, uh,
Tom Chantry attended or would attend and to the
councilor and that was the limit of its distribution.
FAZER: Why aid Tom Lyons [sic] give it to you?
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LINDBLAD: Because it had disappeared and I had all
of the other documents, somebody - somebody should have
it and that’s why I ended up with it.
BAZHR: Why was, why - why do you think he chose
you?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, because he’s not an administrator
and I am and I keep pieces of paper, that’s all I can
say.
EAZER: Was it ‘couse you're friends with the
chantry’ s?
LINDBLAD: No.
EAZER: And again, sir, I‘ll ask this and T
again, I’m not trying to be confrontational but you have
acknowledged that you are good friends, close friends
with Walt Chantry, you've acknowledged that you are
friends with Tom Chantry and now Tom Lyon gives you
documents which have disappeared.
LINDBLAD: Well he lives in Washington, they
disappeared out of Pennsylvania.
EAZER: Okay. He hands you, well but he gives
you Wash--, uh, uh, documents that somehow, he has.
LINDBLAD: Well no, it’s not somehow, he was
entitled to have them.
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EAZER: Okay. So, he’s had them all along, they
disappear from Washington, he gives them to you
presumably for safekeeping and you turn them over to mr.
Sears and ~ and again, when do you think that was?
LINDBLAD: Mmm, November maybe.
EAZER: November, I though they disappeared in
January?
LINDBLAD: I ~ I don’t recall when they disappeared,
whm, but, uhm, I don’t remember when I heard but T
received them, well I had them for a few months,
whenever it was I learned, I ~ I’m sorry I’m now
getting, wh, turned arcund in dates. Uhm, uhm, I
learned that they had disappeared some months ago and,
uhm, Pastor Lyon gave them to me for safekeeping and I
did pass them onto Mr. Sears, that’s, uh, that’s the
best T can remember.
FAZER: So, you're quite confident they had
disappeared before Pastor Lyon gave them to you?
LINDBLAD: I'm fairly confident of that, yes.
FAZER: So that would mean they had to have
disappeared sometime prior to November because that's
when you gave them to Mr. Sears?
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LINDBLAD: Yes. And my guess, my memory is that
they disappeared, well again, you would, uh, this is
rumor but my - my guess is they disappeared, uhm, as
long as two years ago but I do not know that for
certain,
EAZER: But’ I thought you said To--, you just
said Tom Lyon gave them to you after they disappeared
because they had disappeared and he gave them to you for
safekeeping?
LINDBLAD: He did do that. But I’m saying they
disappeared before we, some of us learned that they had
disappeared.
EAZER: Well how do you know if - if - if nobody
learned it? Uh, I’m - I'm very confused, now you said
something about in January Vicky, I can’t read my own
writing, Bookamer...
LINDBLAD: Right.
FAZER: -..the administrative assistant tells you
the documents were gone.
LINDBLAD: Correct. But they had disappeared, uhn,
uhm, I’m not sure when she learned they disappeared,
what she told me was the rumor who had taken them and
the chairman of the Administrative Council called him
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and yes, he had took the, he took them when he resigned
as coordinator from the association. So, they had disa-
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FAZER: So, you do know who took them?
LINDBLAD: I told you who, uhm...
FAZER: No, you told me there was a rumor that
Bob Selph took ‘em...
LINDBLAD: Correct.
EBAZER: -.and now you just told me that the
chairman said yes he took ‘em when he resigned and I’m
assuming you're speaking of Bob Selph.
LINDBLAD: Again, but that’s what I have heard and
therefore I’m suggesting that you might want to speak
with Earl Blackburn or someone...
FAZER: 0h, I - I definitely...
LINDBLAD: ...to make sure.
FAZER: will be but I’m just confused because
you've now said that there wasn’t really any big
mystery, he said yes, when I xvesigned IT took those
documents with me two years ago but earlier you said it
was a big mystery and there was speculation that someone
had perhaps...
LINDBLAD: That’s true.
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FAZER: -..taken these documents and there was
rumors about this person taking them and I’m ~ I’m just
very confused.
LINDBLAD: Because I’m hearing of this in sequence
not all at once.
FAZER: Okay. $0, now you're t...
LINDBLAD: I can’t remem...
FAZER: Okay.
LINDBLAD: I’m sorry.
FAZER: Go ahead.
LINDBLAD: So, I - I hear that, I hear that they're
gone, I speak with Vicky, she tells me who she heard
took them and who would have further information, that’s
what I heard in January.
FAZER: And you said that when this person was
contacted, again, I guess we're speaking of Bob Selph,
that he said, yes, he took them when he resigned two
years previously.
LINDBLAD: That’s correct. TI learned...
FAZER: So...
LINDBLAD: ...that in January.
EAZER: So, there wasn’t any...
LINDBLAD: (Inaudible)...
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EAZER: ...sneakiness it was they were taken when
he left?
LINDBLAD: Except they didn’t belong to him.
EAZER: | Well do they...
LINDBLAD: Uh...
EAZER: -belong to you?
LINDBLAD: (Inaudible) .
EAZER: Do they belong to Mr, Sears? Do they
belong to Tom Chantry?
LINDBLAD: Well he would have had all of these
documents but says that he did not keep them.
FAZER: Where did Bob Selph go to after when he
resigned his position and where did he go?
LINDBLAD: Uhm, he’s the pastor of Grace Baptist
Church in, uhm, uhm, let’s see it was a town near
Spartanburg, uh, South Carolina and then resigned and
he’s, now has an intercity ministry in atlanta.
FAZER: Okay. So, I want te understand the
distinction from between why they did not belong to Bob
Selph and why it would not be appropriate for him to
have them but why it would be appropriate for you to
have them and to give them to Mr. Sears, and I’m asking
that sincerely, IT have no idea what your organization...
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State of Arizena v. Thomas Chantry
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