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SkyRider Average Hood Sizes May 23, 2006 at 1:26am rayg58 likes this
Moderator Post by SkyRider on May 23, 2006 at 1:26am
Okay, I was reading through the forum and I saw several posts asking about hood measurements
(across the eyes) for different raptors, so I decided to post what NAFAHH has in their book. This
Apprentice should help those of you with that hood program ;D
EDIT: I just looked at the picture again and it's saying that these are the measurements for the base of
the hood pattern.
Like this...

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3,086

44 -- American Kestrel Male, Sharp-shin Male


46 -- American Kestrel Female, small Jack Merlin
48 -- Australian Little Falcon female, Jack Merlin, Sharp-shin hen
50 -- male Hobby, female Merlin, European Sparrow Hawk
52 -- Shikra Goshawk hen
54 -- Aplomato tiercel, small Hobby falcon, Australian Little falcon tiercel
56 -- Aplomato Falcon, Cooper's tiercel, large Hobby
falcon
60 -- Small Western Cooper's Hen

62 -- Barbary tiercel, Cooper's Hen, African Black Sparrow Hawk tiercel


64 -- Cassin's tiercel, Shaheen tiercel (Barbary)
66 -- Lannerette, small Lugger falcon, Prairie tiercel, Red kite male

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68 -- Barbary female (Shaheen), Australian Brown Falcon tiercel, large Cassin's falcon, American
Goshawk tiercel, small Australian Gos tiercel, Harris tiercel, Black Kite male, small Lanner Falcon,
Lugger female, Peregrine tiercel, Australian Peregrine tiercel

70 -- Australian female Brown Falcon, large American Goshawk tiercel, Australian Goshawk hen,
European Goshawk tiercel, Lanner Falcon, large Lugger, Australian Peregrine falcon, small Peregrine
Falcon
72 -- 30 oz. Gyr-Prairie tiercel, Texas Harris hen, Red Kite female, large Lanner, small Peale's
Falcon, Prairie Falcon
74 -- Goshawk hen, Black Kite female, small Saker Falcon
76 -- Small Common Buzzard male, large Saker falcon
78 -- Common Buzzard female, Gyrkin, small Red-tail tiercel, Swainson's tiercel
80 -- 54 oz Gyr, Red-tail tiercel

82 -- Large Gyrfalcon, African Hawk-Eagle female, Bonelli's Hawk-Eagle female, Red-tail hen
84 -- Large Red-tail hen

87.5 -- Changeable Hawk-Eagle female, Ferruginous female (make beak opening with larger smile),
Swainson's Hawk female
90 -- Golden Eagle tiercel, large Ferruginous female

95 -- Small Golden Eagle female


100 -- Large Golden Eagle female

105 -- Bald Eagle female


118 -- Phillipine Monkey-Eating Eagle female (make beak opening taller)

of the book

Last Edit: May 23, 2006 at 1:45am by SkyRider


Average Hood Sizes May 23, 2006 at 2:19pm
Post by mjhoods on May 23, 2006 at 2:19pm
Hi Skyrider
The measurements you have given relate to the "Jack Mavro'" Pattern Anglo indian hood
mjhoods (found in "falcon in the field") .... that pattern measures by the throat strap.
New Member
Mavro Pattern

mjhoods

Stoops like a
Stuka!! behind the eye to get the correct size
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Slijper Pattern

SkyRider Average Hood Sizes May 23, 2006 at 3:21pm


Moderator Post by SkyRider on May 23, 2006 at 3:21pm

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I just used the picture as an example ;D


Do you know the relation on that Mavro hood (the chin strap length to the rest of the hood)?
Average Hood Sizes May 23, 2006 at 3:49pm
Post by mjhoods on May 23, 2006 at 3:49pm
Posts: 3,086 Hi SkyRider
mjhoods
New Member

mjhoods
As far as I am aware .... Mavro just reproduced the pattern by incraments and tried them on as
many birds as he could.... giving the throat strap measurement as the "mark" of the size.... he
Stoops like a would have had many patterns at his disposal (as he was well travelled) and he chose the best
Stuka!! practical pattern to produce in his books... thats as much as I know on how it came to be.
Posts: 8
Having said that Hendrick Slijper produced the "Canon" in the 1950's.... so Mavro could have
used that to make his pattern.... using the throat strap to "difference" his pattern.
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crbhawking
Licensed Falconer

Apprentice I Average Hood Sizes Jun 22, 2007 at 5:24am


Post by crbhawking on Jun 22, 2007 at 5:24am
I using this pattern have resized it to fit the measurements and have ended up with the right
sizes so they do work

3rd Year
Apprentice
Posts: 474 Last Edit: Jun 22, 2007 at 5:32am by crbhawking
Ryan
Licensed
Falconer

Apprentice
Average Hood Sizes Aug 27, 2007 at 4:08am
Post by Ryan on Aug 27, 2007 at 4:08am
I was wondering if anyone knew of hood sizes in inches to what bird (that is how my favorite
pattern measures not in mm.). All I know is that 4in. will fit a FRT. Thanks for any help anyone
can provide.

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Average Hood Sizes Oct 16, 2007 at 9:41pm
scarecrow Post by scarecrow on Oct 16, 2007 at 9:41pm
New Member but with the slijper pattern , how do u do it when you have the bird measured behind the eyes? i
mean how do u change the original pattern/make a new one so it fits the measurments? i have a

scarecrow know how

Posts: 92 and a second question: how can the measurment behind the eyes fit all the birds when some (for
ex. falcons) have a different shape of the head then for ex. goshawks?
Last Edit: Oct 16, 2007 at 9:43pm by scarecrow
Valkie Average Hood Sizes Oct 16, 2007 at 10:01pm
Licensed Falconer Post by Valkie on Oct 16, 2007 at 10:01pm
you redraw the pattern, they have instructions on how to do it in frank beebes compleat
SA General falconer. this hood works, and remember, a birds head is thicker from behind the eyes, than
at the eyes themselves, so the panels stay away from the eyes.

i used a arab-style nr1 and a half hood for my appys common buzz

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never make hay on a


Falcon Boy
windy day
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Average Hood Sizes Oct 17, 2007 at 3:50am


Post by Falcon Boy on Oct 17, 2007 at 3:50am
To change the pattern you can also pop it on a photocopier and just
make it bigger or smaller and measure the part you need to each
time you make it smaller/larger
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over
again and expecting different results"-Albert
Einstein
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okiereddirthawker
Licensed Average Hood Sizes Oct 17, 2007 at 1:16pm
Falconer Post by okiereddirthawker on Oct 17, 2007 at 1:16pm
Use caution when using a copier, they tend to distort the image in one plane or the other. Not
every copier does this. I use a scanner and change the size of the image digitally. If you don’t
okiereddirtha have access to a scanner and use a copier, then rotate the image 90 degrees every time you re-
copy.
Posts: 162 I hope that makes sense.

miket307
Licensed
Falconer
Average Hood Sizes Oct 17, 2007 at 6:06pm
Post by miket307 on Oct 17, 2007 at 6:06pm
miket307
My eastern PMRT trapped at 963 naked wears the 55mm behind the eyes in the "Slijper"
pattern generator.

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scarecrow
New Member
Average Hood Sizes Oct 17, 2007 at 8:47pm
Post by scarecrow on Oct 17, 2007 at 8:47pm
scarecrow but what part of the pattern depends on the measurment behind the eyes? or is it like the size of
the chinstrap is the same?
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miket307 Average Hood Sizes Oct 17, 2007 at 10:34pm
Licensed Post by miket307 on Oct 17, 2007 at 10:34pm
Falconer www.themodernapprentice.com/hood.zip
Taken from:
www.themodernapprentice.com/hoods.htm
miket307
This pattern generator works with the behind the eyes measurements.
Posts: 575 You can also take the throat strap measurements listed above and divide them by 1.34 and it will
get you close to the behind the eye measurements.
pecmoney Average Hood Sizes Dec 31, 2007 at 6:05am
Licensed Falconer Post by pecmoney on Dec 31, 2007 at 6:05am
Chinstrap -- Behind Eye (Both in Millimeters)
Apprentice II
EDIT: Printing out all sizes with the canon hood creator
and measuring chinstrap. The sizes will change editing till i get them all right Ones with an *

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are correct
ChinStrap / BeHind Eyes
__ __

* 44 -- 32 American Kestrel Male, Sharp-shin Male


* 46 -- 34 American Kestrel Female, small Jack Merlin
*48 -- 36 Australian Little Falcon female, Jack Merlin, Sharp-shin hen
*50 -- 37 male Hobby, female Merlin, European Sparrow Hawk
*52 -- 38 Shikra Goshawk hen
*54 -- 39.5 Aplomato tiercel, small Hobby falcon, Australian Little falcon tiercel

*56 -- 41 Aplomato Falcon, Cooper's tiercel, large Hobby falcon


*60 -- 43 Small Western Cooper's Hen

*62 -- 45 Barbary tiercel, Cooper's Hen, African Black Sparrow Hawk tiercel
64 -- 47 Cassin's tiercel, Shaheen tiercel (Barbary)

66 -- 41 Lannerette, small Lugger falcon, Prairie tiercel, Red kite male


68 -- 43 Barbary female (Shaheen), Australian Brown Falcon tiercel, large Cassin's falcon,
American Goshawk tiercel, small Australian Gos tiercel, Harris tiercel, Black Kite male,
small Lanner Falcon, Lugger female, Peregrine tiercel, Australian Peregrine tiercel
70 -- 45 Australian female Brown Falcon, large American Goshawk tiercel, Australian
Goshawk hen, European Goshawk tiercel, Lanner Falcon, large Lugger, Australian Peregrine
falcon, small Peregrine Falcon

Rest? Where do I 72 -- 47 30 oz. Gyr-Prairie tiercel, Texas Harris hen, Red Kite female, large Lanner, small
buy that at? Peale's Falcon, Prairie Falcon
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74 -- 49 Goshawk hen, Black Kite female, small Saker Falcon
76 -- 51 Small Common Buzzard male, large Saker falcon

*78 -- 53 Common Buzzard female, Gyrkin, small Red-tail tiercel, Swainson's tiercel
*80 -- 55 54 oz Gyr, Red-tail tiercel
*82 -- 57 Large Gyrfalcon, African Hawk-Eagle female, Bonelli's Hawk-Eagle female, Red-
tail hen

*84 -- 59 Large Red-tail hen


87.5 -- 62.5 Changeable Hawk-Eagle female, Ferruginous female (make beak opening with
larger smile), Swainson's Hawk female
90 -- 65 Golden Eagle tiercel, large Ferruginous female
95 -- 70 Small Golden Eagle female

100 -- 75 Large Golden Eagle female


105 -- 80 Bald Eagle female
118 -- 93 Phillipine Monkey-Eating Eagle female (make beak opening taller)

Done the calculations and these are exact within .05 mm so they are pretty damn close. It
took me awhile to get it down but it will save all the hassel. Tested it on my redtail and my
sponsors and the hoods fit damn near perfect enjoy!!!!
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Average Hood Sizes Dec 31, 2007 at 6:12am


Post by pecmoney on Dec 31, 2007 at 6:12am
Now just plug these numbers into the H.J. Slijpers hood creator program so i wont
have to make the program.

Rest? Where do I buy that


at?
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