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Humidity Control In 30 Minutes

Including Advice From Will Rogers and Willie Sutton

Humidity Control In 30 Minutes Including Advice From Will Rogers and Willie Sutton Distinguished Lecture Lew

Distinguished Lecture

Humidity Control In 30 Minutes Including Advice From Will Rogers and Willie Sutton Distinguished Lecture Lew
Humidity Control In 30 Minutes Including Advice From Will Rogers and Willie Sutton Distinguished Lecture Lew

Lew Harriman

Mason-Grant Consulting

Portsmouth, NH

MasonGrant.com

Wednesday, November 14, 2012

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Outline

1. Examples of common humidity control problems

  • 2. Misconceptions that lead to problems

  • 3. The path to success - Understanding humidity loads

4. Summary

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Great Clinic building, great HVAC system

... why did it grow mold 3 times in five years?

So

Indoor dew point = 12.0°C (54°F) - Excellent!
Indoor dew point = 12.0°C (54°F) - Excellent!

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School - Plenty of system capacity!

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Why mold?

School - Plenty of system capacity! ... Why mold? Humidity Control in 30 Minutes Dayton ASHRAE

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New training building and new HVAC equipment ... Why mold and equipment failures?

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$6 Million new home, state-of-the-art HVAC ... Why is humidity over 65% RH?

$6 Million new home, state-of-the-art HVAC ... Why is humidity over 65% RH? Humidity Control in
$6 Million new home, state-of-the-art HVAC ... Why is humidity over 65% RH? Humidity Control in
$6 Million new home, state-of-the-art HVAC ... Why is humidity over 65% RH? Humidity Control in

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Common elements of these four problems

All designed by experienced professionals

Client assumed—but did not define—humidity control

No separate humidity load calculation - HVAC Designer “flying blind”

All added EXTRA cooling - instead of dedicated dehumidification

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Will Rogers’ Observation

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Peak humidity design conditions

We thought we knew

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but it just ain’t so

Peak humidity design conditions We thought we knew ... but it just ain’t so Humidity Control

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How to find the peak design dew point?

ASHRAE Fundamentals 1997 Climatic Design Chapter

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or later

How to find the peak design dew point? ASHRAE Fundamentals 1997 Climatic Design Chapter .. or

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Dayton - ASHRAE humidity design conditions

0.4% Dry Bulb

0.4% Dew Point

Difference at peak dew point

90° DB

81°DB

 

74° MCWB

74°MCWB

-9°F DB

98 gr/lb

128 gr/lb

+30 gr/lb

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Cincinnati - ASHRAE humidity design conditions

0.4% Dry Bulb

0.4% Dew Point

Difference at peak dew point

93° DB

83°DB

 

75° MCWB

77°MCWB

-10°F DB

100 gr/lb

134 gr/lb

+34 gr/lb

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What do do?

Track down and quantify the humidity loads

Dry the supply air to a lower dew point than the control condition

To avoid overcooling - Dedicate an HVAC component to dehumidification independent of cooling equipment and cooling controls

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Guidance from Willie Sutton

Guidance from Willie Sutton Reporter: “Willie, it’s a Federal Crime! why rob BANKS?” Humidity Control in

Reporter:

“Willie, it’s a Federal Crime! why rob BANKS?”

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Where’s the humidity load?

Where’s the humidity load? Humidity Control in 30 Minutes Dayton ASHRAE Chapter - November 2012 Wednesday,

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Humidity load at peak dry bulb vs. peak dew point

67 lb/h at peak Dry Bulb
67 lb/h at peak Dry Bulb
116 lb/h at peak Dew Point
116 lb/h at peak Dew Point

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Dry where the load is - DOAS controls humidity

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Typical layout - Big box retail

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Add return air connection for humidity control during unoccupied hours and vacations

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Summary - Humidity Control in 30 Minutes

Extra cooling does not mean humidity control

Since 1997 we know humidity peaks when outdoor temperatures are moderate—not hot. 70% more humidity load at ASHRAE peak dew point.

Biggest humidity load?

Ventilation and

... makeup air, BY FAR the largest loads

For easy humidity control - Dry the incoming air in a dedicated outdoor air system (DOAS)

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Further ASHRAE Resources

Further ASHRAE Resources ASHRAE Handbook (Applications) Humidity Control Design Guide Guide for Buildings in Hot and

ASHRAE Handbook (Applications)

Further ASHRAE Resources ASHRAE Handbook (Applications) Humidity Control Design Guide Guide for Buildings in Hot and

Humidity Control Design Guide

Further ASHRAE Resources ASHRAE Handbook (Applications) Humidity Control Design Guide Guide for Buildings in Hot and

Guide for Buildings in Hot and Humid Climates

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Further ASHRAE Resources ASHRAE Handbook (Applications) Humidity Control Design Guide Guide for Buildings in Hot and

Lew Harriman

Chair, ASHRAE TC 1.12

(603) 431-0635

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