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THE GUITAR IN

LATIN AMERICA:
A PERSONAL VIEW

by Carlos Barbosa-Lima
as told 10 Peter Danner

L
ATJN AMERICAN GUITAR MUSIC IS AN EXTREMELY Another was Havana. Cuba gained its indepen·
large and varied topic. It can be heard all over dence at the end of the last century as a result of the
the continent, from Colombia and Venezuela Spanjsh War, so it became an option too. Havana was
in the north, to Argentina and Chile in the south. All of a kind of gateway for Spanish culture in this part of the
these countries inherited the Portuguese and Spanish­ world. You had guitar makers and musicians going
speaking traditions of their European colonizers, and there, and sometimes they would pass through Havana
the guitar bas remained an integral part of those on their way to South America. One of Tlirrega's stu­
cultures. I think it is important to keep in mind that the dents, Pascual Roch, for example, went to Cuba.
instrument is part of the daily lives of those people. But somehow, it was Buenos Aires that attracted
Since colonial times, the people of South America have them most. It earned a reputation as the place to try
played the guitar in one way or another-to accompany out the new frontier. I think teachers made this choice
songs and dances, to celebrate hoHdays, or to do some­ partly because of their affinity to the language, and
thing. Out of this a large cult of the guitar has devel­ sometimes they'd have a relative or friend already
oped. It has been incorporated into popular dance living there. A number of teachers and makers had
forms and all kinds of manifestations, and many skill· already settled there, so the guitar was flourishing.
ful types of playing have evolved. The reason this did Gaspar Sagreras was living in Buenos Aires as early as
not happen in the United States during the 19th 1860, Juan Valier in 1878, and Juan Crusans a few
century was that there was much less interest here in years later. A number of guitarists also went there on
the so-called classical Iberian traditions. tour. Granados, for instance, went to Argentina with
By the tum of the 20th century, political and social AntonioJim�nez Manj6n, the bHndguitarist who played
transformations in the world led an incredible wave of a multi-string guitar-I think it had ten or eleven
Spanish masters to South America. AB a result of the strings. He had received great reviews in Spain. My
Spanish-American War in 1898, Spain suffered consid· teacher, Isaias Savio, heard him sometime around
erable economic setbacks, and many people were forced 1918. Manj6n eventually settled in Argentina.
to flee. Their choice was either to come to the United There were other important people down there, too,
States or South America, and it was to Latin America like Antonio Sin6poli-he wass an important fellow­
that most of these emigr�s turned. Argentina was and Julio Sagreras. I think Sagreras was important in
economically one of the most promising countries at connection with Argentina. Then there was Domingo
that time, and it also had a good cultural climate. So Prat. Prat was a man of Renaissance culture. He was
Buenos Aires was one of their best options. financially well off; he had plenty of money and as a

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udent of Tarrega, was an important. link with the apparently had a very good teacher who belonged to the
panish tradition. tradition of Magin Alegre (Llobet himselfbad been one
So you can see that the guitar had already been of Alegre's students). There were apparently some
ourishing naturally inside South America since colo- teachers with that kind of approach who had gone to
times. But I believe from the mid 19th century South America. So Barrios with his gift probably-I'm
wards the latter part it flourished more because just guessing from my teacher's information-took
pie gradually studied it more. some lessons in Paraguay from one of Alegre's stu­
The principal South American countries for the dents, and then went to Buenos Aires with his parents
tivation of the guitar as a serious instrument in the to study the Alegre method more fully. Barrios was a
ly stages were, I would say, first Argentina, then phenomenon. While all these people were coming to
Uruguay, and gradually Chile. But some of the others South America, he was aJready there playing, and he
·ght have taken more time to absorb it. The guitar was playing classical material, plus music inspired by
-was a little bit behind in Brazil, I think. We Brazilians folk dances and folk forms.
bad our own regional love for the instrument going way
back. For instance, there bad been a Brazilian musi­
cian by the name of Manoel Botelho who had gone to
J,isbon as far back as 1750. He is reported to have
�tten sonatas for the guitar. But there were actually
�ery few people teaching. Apparently they were very
isolated. There might have been teachers in Rio, and
maybe one or two in the North.
We have been talking about the years before Llobet
became based down there, which I think was the
biggest influence of all. Miguel Llobet had travelled to
America around 1912 and actually lived for a while in
Argentina. Llobet was a great revelation because of his
musical status. His standard was so high that. he
immediately became an inspiration to them. Appar­
ently he had contacts to come back after thatr-with the
roximit.y to Uruguay and Chile and the other coun­
tries, it would have been very easy to book concerts­
but then war broke out in Europe in 1914.
Llobet did visit Brazil once in 1916 or so, and then
Argentina, where he found a haven with the Anido
family. There was a Spanish guitarist there by the
name of Josefina Robledo. She had been one oIT6rrega's
pupils and was supposed to have one of the most perfect
tremolos of all time. That was her big thing, but she Carlos Barbosa-Lima
p1ayed very sweetly. Savio heard her in Montevideo,
but she made a special trip ,to Rio; apparently it con­ Savio said he heard Barrios in the Teatro Solis in
cerned some of her husband's business connections. Montevideo sometime aft.er 1912, which means Savio
She taught a man called Oswaldo Soares. Soares is would have only been around 12 years old at the time.
important because be published the first book for t.he The concert. was a big, big success. At the time, Savio
guitar in Brazil. It was a fairly good book of about 60 was living in Buenos Aires and had traveled to Uruguay
pages, with exercises that were supposed to be from to be there. The proximity of Uruguay and Argentina is
Tlkrega's tradition, and then music like Bach's little very close. Uruguay, you know, is a fascinating little
Prelude for lute, and a combination of pieces. It was the country. It's smaller than the state of Sao Paulo, yet it.
first book I became acquainted with. Soares later has produced an incredible affinity for the guitar in
became an arch-enemy of Savio, because Savio's teach­ terms, not only of good teaching, but good players.
ing was much better than his. Traditionally it has always been a kind of a center for
Later on, after the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s, guitar-that and soccer . Montevideo attracted many
!Argentina would again became a natural haven for people because of its beautiful beaches. There was a
�panish exiles. But, in the meantime, Agustin Barrios kind ofEuropean charm to the city, that it actually kept
was already there. Barrios was a native of South pretty much for a good part of this century. It preserved
America, and, according to my teacher Savio, had some of those laid-back places. I have many Uru-

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guayan friends who have a great affinity with Brazil. getting together-you had something similar in the
They have customs that are very similar to the ones in United States, I believe, with these serenaders, where
the southern Brazilian states, especially Rio Grande do they used to play in a jamming format and people were
Sul. supposed to improvise counter-melodies or counter­
That wave of teachers going to South America was rhythms-but the Brazilian style flourished in such a
very important, and I believe some of them came to the way that all the instruments could take part with what­
United States too. I think the tours of Llobet and ever you had. Even the baajo was down there at the
Segovia were important and especially the movements beginning of the century. Anybody with creativity and
of Agustin Barrios, because Barrios travelled all over willingness to take part in a format like that would play
South America in the teens. He was in Brazil where the chOros. I believe that has a little bit of a baroque touch
Villa-Lobos apparently heard him and was very much too, because Brazilian music has a great connection with
taken by his playing. the baroque: Bach and all that. This is why the Bachianas
There is a program published in one of the old occurred. There are all kinds of baroque touches in our
Brazilian magazines showing that Barrios played a music and that countrapunto naturo instinct for accom­
concert, I think it was in 1916, in which be shared the paniment. Anyway, the ch8ros started like that.
program withCatulloCearense, the marvelous Brazil­
ian songwriter. I arranged a lot ofCatullo's music back
when I was in my teens. Catullo was the first one to But in the meantime, Barrios was
popularize the modinh.a, which is a Brazilian form of already there playing, and he was
soft love song, gallant and contemplative, not like the
playing classical material, plus music
fados of Portugal which are very sad and bitter. Ours
have a different sweet sadness. Catullo was a guitar inspired by folk dances.
player, too, since he created his own style, and was
completely self-taught. He came from the North of
Brazil, Maranhao, a rather desolate region without People would use waltzes also. l was still able to see
any trees. He came to Rio in the late part of the 19th that format during one of my early trips to the interior
century with his guitar, accompanying songs. I believe of the country. A group of serenaders once woke me up
that might have been one of the oldest forms of guitar in the middle of the night with their music. Unfortu·
accompaniment coming from Iberian roots, but he had nately, that tradition is dying now, except for small
developed a style that is still influential today. He groups trying to keep the tradition alive. So they would
played a concert in Rio as early 1908 that was spon­ come wake you up with a beautiful piece, and then they
sored by the Brazilian government-the President would go to some other place. There would be a flute, a
actually-Hermes de Fonseca. lncidently, the guitar, maybe a cello too. Well, maybe the cello is too
President's wife, the First Lady, had studied the guitar heavy to carry in those places. This is why the guitar
in France in the last part of the 19th century with has such a great appeal. But eventually you might find
somebody who had studied with NapoleonCoste. There's a cello group. You might find the banjo, or that little
an interesting connection there. When that happened four-string guitar the cauaquinho.
it was probably the very first official concert with But to get back to the very early part of this century,
somebody playing the guitar in Brazil. Of course, the I think Villa-Lobos was absolutely the major influence
enemies of the government began to blast it: "Even the not only in Brazil, but for the entire continent. I think
guitarists play there." That was a very important time he gave the guitar a major status in the Americas.
for Brazilian music. Don't forget that form of song Today people are beginning to realize his importance.
accompaniment had a direct appeal to people, and then He was not the first classical guitar composer, of
we had the arrival of the chOros. course, but we don't have too many with the great level
I have to talk a bit about the chOros because it's a very of creativity that he had. In our days things are chang­
important aspect of Brazilian music, and definitely the ing, but Villa-Lobos played the guitar, and according to
guitar was involved from the begin of it, the native and tradition he learned how to play the cello on bjg own. He
principal instrument there for that form. At the begin­ wrote his Suite Populo.ire Bresili.enne very early in the
ning of his career, Villa-Lobos was a ch6ros player; that's 20th century. The Suite was the result of an interesting
how he started, as a vagabond going around playing, phenomenon happening around the last part of the
hanging out with people, and that's how he started 19th century towards the beginning of this one: Euro·
discovering Brazilian roots in terms of music forms. By pean forms gaining a place in Brazilian forms, merging
the late of 19th century, as I said, the guitar was already with Brazilian forms. This is why he wrote a Waltz
appearing, here and there, isolated, and it was emerging Ch8ro, a waltz in the ch6ros style, and a Mazurka
in the cities as well. The chOros began to occur with people ChOro. All these European forms gained a much more

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laid back feeling in our music. There is also a Schottishe, ments, and counterpoint here and there. You can al­
and then there is the Polka. The polka was very popular ready see a different kind of approach instead of the
down there at the turn of the century. And you find vertical harmonic structure.
pther forms because there was some immigration from There were some other people who played the guitar
�astern Europe also in the middle of the 19th century by ear. When Savio arrived in Brazil in 1930, he meta few
�the southern part of Brazil, from Russia, Germany of these musicians. He said it was hard to find anyone
what are now the Slavic countries. These forms playing bad music; he was astonished tbat there was so

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e, and they began to merge with our own flourishing much creative playing without any schooling at all. One
ure. Because most traditional Brazilian forms are of them was JoAo Pemambuco-a nickname that refers
modin.ha and the lundu, which has a little bit of the to his native State in the northeast; his real name was
African ring and very contrapuntal too . So developing Guimaraes. Apparently he was a fantastic player. There
forms mixed. are recordings of him made in 1928 and 1929 for the
Brazilian RCA Victor. His playing was very, very clean,
not common among players of those times. You can hear
in Pernambuco's playing a certain level above the usual
player. But there are also traditions of another great
player, Satiro Bilhar, a good friend of Villa-Lobos and
Ernesto Nazareth. According to Savio, Satiro Bilharwas
great chorao. This is a good word to use, chorao; in Por­
tuguese it means you play chOros and you are big to do
that-you're "chorAo," which has a double meaning­
you "cry" about it-a very sentimental connotation. In
general the word cMros means "to cry"; that's the ety­
mology, because you're suppose to go and express to your
loved one. You serenade a girl beneath her window and
at one point you might see her or get her father throwing
you something wet and not pleasant.
The Brazilian love song has a sweetness that is
different from the fado. I think it came more through
the Azores, that happier, natural state of mind of the
old serenaders. I have discussed this with Ron Purcell,
d whose first wife, Joanne, did incredible research on the
old Portuguese influence from the Azores, and I be­
' came convinced that even my family has an Azorean
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linkage. So, coming from that region, the Islands, there
was a different kind of sweetness, gallantry, poetry. It's
still very sad. The guitar was always there.
Until very recently, the uwla was still quite common
Heltor Villa-Lobos in the countryside. That's the old expression for the
guitar-from vihuela, with five double strings. That's
I believe Villa-Lobos was very attracted by the the way it was brought to Brazil, and it stayed there
guitar. According to Savio, there had been somebody until now-it may be dying out a little bit-but in the
teaching in Rio using the Aguado method by the late countryside, the five double strings with the different
19th century. There were not many teachers then, tunings. Sometimes you have a couple of strings in
maybejust one or two, and apparently there was one in octaves-a very interest approach-sometimes tunings
northern Brazil. (You can imagine only two people with the thfrd in f-sharp; sometimes you have like a G
t�aching with some sort of a method book!) l believe tuning related to the slack-key guitar. These can all be
that Villa-Lobos with his genius probably had some traced to the Portuguese. In the meantime, they brought
contact with this person, but then really studied oo his the ukulele to Hawaii in the 19th century, and the
own. According to his own memoirs and from state­ cauaquinho to Brazil. These all have the same roots,
ments he made while he was alive, he pretty much the idea of a high-pitched guitar, but in Brazil the
figured out all that counterpoint from Bach and the cauaquinho also became part of the chOros, and the
great masters of the past. Already in the early works of Brazilians began using both a plucking style and a
the Sui� Populaire you can see him exploiting an plectrum style-finger and pJectrum--ancl more of a
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in Hawaii is primarily strumming, at least that's the the emerging industries in SAo Paulo went there.
tradition, although I've seen great players combining Industry was realJy starting to flourish; there was
strumming and plucking. some money to spend on the arts, so the event became
There were also a number of pianists that need to the first important arts festival to be sponsored by
be mentioned. One of the early pianists to have an private organizations. It created a very important
impact in Brazil was Louis Moreau Gottchalk (1829- wave, I think, for things that happened later in other
1869). He was born in New Orleans, so he would have parts of South America. Villa-Lobos was definitely a
known something about the Caribbean mix there. I major figure there. He had a out-spoken personality up
still think the closest thing I can find in the United also wrote great music. Nazareth took part in the
States in terms of affinity with Brazilian music is New event. He was already getting on in years (he had been
Orleans, because of that cross-cultural Afro-European born in 1863), but he was finally able to get some kind
blend. Gott.chalk went to Chile in 1866 and stayed of public recognition. My dear friend and one of my
there a full year. He was a fantastic pianist, admired by musical mentors, Guido Sant6rsola, who lives in
the European masters, and when he arrived in Rio in Montevideo, heard Nazareth in his early years and
1869 it was a big shock because people not only heard really associates his childhood in Silo Paulo by hearing
a great player, but also one playing something that that music.
related to them. He stayed in Rio the rest of his life and Speaking ofSant6rsola, I have very fond memories
died there. There are rumors that he was enjoying life of him. He was actually my mentor in the early '60s
too well down there. when I had the project of arranging a series of songs by
Now I have to talk a bit about Ernesto Nazareth Catullo Cearense. Like Nazareth, another thing that
(1863-1934), who demonstrated a gift. for music at a brought Sant6rsola memories of his early years was
very early age. One of his traditional pieces is called Catullo's music. With his experience, I had already a
Brejeiro (Mischievous) and was a big hit in Brazil in kind of aesthetic approach I wanted to explore in those
1880. He was a pianist, but echoed other things as well. songs and he coached me harmonically. It was the first
You can see in his music that the piano is like a little important step, I think, in creating the same style of
echo of other sounds. This is why a lot of his works are arranging that I'm applying today when I'm doing
very adaptable to the guitar. The music of Nazareth Jobim and other composers.
had a big impact in Brazil. He was also fond of Chopin, Nazareth for me was before that. Another musical
so he began to create beautiful Brazilian waltzes on a mentor of mine who was also self taught in music-a
very high level, like a Brazilian Chopin. He was ad­ very fine composer in Brazil and a man of Renaissance
mired by people like Villa-Lobos who dedicated the culture (he could talk to you about anything)-was
Ch6ros No. 1 to him. Nazareth went on to produce so Theodoro Nogueira. He was recommended to me by
much, and he became more and more appreciated. Maestro Savio. I was learning sort of fast, and Savio
There were other people of his time. There was a thought it would be more practical for me not to go to
lady in Brazil who was the first important woman the conservatory, but to a local teacher who would act.
composer, Chiquinha Gonzaga-Francisca Hedwiges as a special kind o f a stimulant, to treat me as an adult.
Gonzaga (1847-1935). She also left some beautiful I was only 12 years old at the time.
music. Nazareth dedicated works to her, and he dedi· I was a fast. learner; Savio had made a five-year plan
cated works to Satiro Bilhar, the guitar player, which for me, and I finished it in three weeks, l think. He
definitely shows that the guitar influence is there. corrected some positions and things, and we worked on
Nazareth dedicated a piece to Bilhar called Tenebroso, technique and music too , but it went fast. This is still
which means "Very Scary," and it's really a guitar the way it goes. Well, anyway, Savio recommended me
piece. to Maestro Nogueira and it ended up being a wonderful
Nazareth's influence was very strong, and 1 believe association, because he would come to our house, or I
be finally received the sort of artistic recognition he would go to his house, with my father of course. He was
deserved during his lifetime, although it was a long a good early mentor. Now Nogueira, in addition to
time coming. In the early part of the century he used to introducing me to records of Heifetz playing Bach and
play in movie houses, the silent movies. It happened in Toscanini records, introduced me to the music of
1922 through Villa-Lobos' great influence, when Brazil Nazareth. l already knew of the music of Nazareth
was celebrating its firstcentury of independence. There because I used to play some ofSin6poli's transcriptions.
was a very important event in my home town of SAo Nogueira was very fond of Nazareth's music and he
Paulo called a "Week of Modern Art" in which many said, "This beautiful music we have. Why don't. you try
things happened: sculpture, painting, literature-it to transcribe some of it for guitar?" And I said, "I don't
was almost like a cultural declaration of independence. know how to do that." I was very young. And he said,
That week was fantastic. A lot of the rich people from "Well, I'll give you a piano-original, and you look at

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what Llobet did," because he was very fond of the America in different forms. You can find that influence
Spanish arrangements of Granados and AJbeniz by in Andrew Lloyd Webber's beautiful theme from Euita,
Uobet. I asked Savio too, and he told me the same "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina." That's almost like an old
�g. Savio said the best thing for you to do is what I form ofHabanera. And Joplin's "Solace," that's a mas­
�d: analyze what Tarrega did, what Llobet did. Theo terpiece. I have transcribed it for the guitar, because
I began to figure things out right away. I began to see you have a fusion there of a Mexican-like theme and

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rways to make the music guitaristic. And then I would I.hen the tango form and the rag as well.Tb.is early form
them the final product, and they would correct a of the tango is very soft. That's why I like the theme of

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gs here and there. That's the way I started Euita. I think Webber really captured the spirit of that
ki g arrangements. The first thing I did was a tango early form. Today, the tango as we know it, the Buenos
by Nazareth called "Remando." It came out pretty well, Aires dance form, was another thing altogether. That
and they wanted to publish it. I also gave them another form developed in a very sensuous, very macho, way. It
one that they never published. I got that back, and I had it's beauty too, but it's another thing.
oow have it revised. Ifs a waltz called "Eponina." But In Brazil, I believe the tango form was heavily
the Tango Hernando, which means, what? ...a canoe in influenced by the polka. You can see in Nazareth's
the water that floats... a bacarolle, that was published music that blend of a little polka here, a little habanera
by Innaos Vitale. there, and then something unique, because Nazareth
It's a tango Brasileiro, a style that Nazareth cre­ began adding little riffs here and there, but the habanera
ated. It was a forerunner of the ch8ro, because the influence is definitely present. And he decided to caJJ it
ch6ros blends with other forms. We associate the tango a Brazilian tango. There is a tendency nowadays in
with Argentina today because that's where it became Brazil to call some of Nazareth's music chOros, but I
more popular, but don't forget that Scott Joplin wrote don't think it's ch6ros-that came later. But it was a
a tango when he wrote "Solace," and there is even a forerunner.
touch of the tango in "The St. Louis Blues." The tango
comes from the Habanera and it's throughout Latin To be continued

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IBEGUITAR IN
LATIN AMERICA:
A PERSONAL VIEW

by Carlos Barbosa-Lima
as told to Pet.er Danner

which means a "good boy" as in the African dialect. He


PART II
was a very sweet man and very influential in the
development ofBraziHan music. I would say he was the

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AST TIME [ M.ENTION"ED THAT TliE Cl/ORO FORM 1$ VERY first one to really reach the masses. Pixinguinha was a
important in the history ofBrazilian music. Villa­ genius and a self-taught musician. He started as a flute
Lobosgothis startas a chiJros player, goingaround player in his early teens. The first person to promote
as a vagabond and discovering his musical roots. The him internationally on the guitar was Laurindo
cMro emerged in the cities and dates from around the Almeida, because Laurindo knew him personally and
turn of the century, just aft.er electricity came into Rio. played with him.
Life changed quite a bit after that, and you began to find So Pixingujnha came to this scene and, with his gift of
small groups of musicians and other entertainers per­ writing beautiful melodies, astounded everybody there.
forming on the streets-I think you had something like He then studied music formally and created a group
that in New Orleans as well. The guitar played a natural called "Os Oito Batutas," a regional group designed to
and natural role m these groups, and because of them, I play the ch.Oros, playing different instruments. It was one
believe a great number of talented guitarists were given of the fi.rst important groups in t.erms of playing popular
a new opportunity to develop. Brazilian music, and it included Joao Pernambuco on
Rio had become much more democratic all.er the guitar. Pixinguinha's brother Donga was also in the
establishment of the republic in 1889. Brazil had been group playing the Brazilian uiola, the double-stringed
an empire before then. (Actually, I believe Emperor guitar.
Pedro JI was one of the greatest sponsors of the arts Os Oito Batutas was a fantastic group, and
we've ever had. He was very much a supporter of the Pixinguinha did their arrangements. His concept of
arts. He had a palace in Rio and a winter palace in orchestration can be linked to what was happening in
Petropolis, which still stands.) America with Fletcher Henderson, and lat.er on with
But to get back to these early choro groups, one of Duke Ellington. Actually, Brazil musically has had
the most important things to happen in the 1910s was many things that happened side by side with what was
the rise of Pixinguinha, the first important Brazilian going on in the United States, and I think Fletcher
composer of African descent. His real name was Alfredo Henderson would be a good example. You had Scott
Vianna, "Pixmguinha" being a nickname from peziguin, Joplin in the United States and we had Nazareth in

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Brazil. We had Catulo and you had Foster in the early Some of Pemambuco's music has now been published.
stages, and Irving Berlin too. There's also a large link For example, there's the famous "Sound ofBells." I made
between Brazilian music and the Caribbean and cer· an arrangement of that adding a lot of inner voicings,
tain kinds of American music. almost like echoing what the ensemble would play; that
Os Oito Batutas was a big hit. Enormous. Now was my approach. That piece is played too fast by most
gradually, with the advent of the radio and recordings, people. You know why?Because in the 1940s the famous
the music began reaching many more people. This was chorinho form came up in Brazil and it became much
instrumental music, but Brazil has always had a natu­ lighter and faster, echoing the bebop version in Brazil.
ral affinity for vocal music; it's just natural for people But actually it's much slower, the traditional way of
to sing there. It's part of the culture. You'll have playing. Lrud back, that's the key. There's a beautiful
somebody in the house doing the cleaning, and that recording by Laurindo and Charlie Byrd on that record
person will be singing; in the shower, singing-it's Brazilian Soul. That record deserved a Grammy.
natural. There is singing everywhere: in the busses, on
the trains, in the streets; you cannot see a Brazilian
group sitting still. So, with the advent of the radio,
together with Pixinguioha's talent (and, of course, There is singing everywhere:
some other people too in the same era), you know what
happened: lyrics began to be added to some of the
on the busses, on the trains, in
pieces. the streets; you cannot see a
Pixinguinha went to France in the '20s, at the same
time that Villa-Lobos and George Gershwin had gone Brazilian group sitting still.
there. Paris had become sort of the hot spot after World
War I. Pixinguinla had gone there just to play. He
found the winters miserable (which was rather how I
All this guitar activity inBrazil attracted Isaias Savio
felt during my first winter in the United States!), and
in Montevideo. Savio had been studying with Llobet,
he was very homesick, but he was a great success. I
because Llobet lived inBuenos Aires and he would come
would say Paris was culturally the center of the world
to Montevideo to play, and they got to be together quite
at that time. Villa-Lobos really expanded his career
a lot. Or Savio would go to Buenos Aires. It's about 300
there. He ended up going back toBrazil afterwards, but
miles by boat and a nice trip. Even in those days you could
Villa-Lobos always kept a home there: four months in
take a boat at night instead of staying in a hotel, and you
Paris, four months in New York (at the same hotel, the
would arrive in the morning. It's still a favorite way to get
Westbury, where Segovia used to stay, too).
there because air travel in South America is more expen­
As his horizons expanded, Pix.inguinha developed
sive than you would believe.
musically. I have talked to Laurindo Almeida about this,
So, Savio worked with Llobet, and then he also
and he agrees that Pixinguinha incorporated parts of
became interested in exploring the traditional routes of
those different regions naturally because the chOros be·
different parts of South America, especially the Rio de
gan to incorporate all kinds of things, including the
la Plata, and later Brazil. He became absolutely a
maxixe, and songs with all kinds of rhythms that people
Brazilian by heart. Savio had a bohemian tempera·
bring with their imaginations. So he was very important
ment by nature, and he came to Brazil in 1930 because
in the developmeot ofBrazilian music. CarlosJobim told
he had heard reports of Barrios' success there, and he
me that Pixinguinha's influence remained strong up
wanted to explore the Brazilian culture, because there
until his death in the '70s. Pix.inguinha absolutely loved
were rumors of these records and all this activity
the bossa nova after it had been developed by Jobim.
involving guitar. He first went to Porto Alegre, made a
I mentioned thatJoao Pernambuco (whose real name
little money, went to SAo Paulo, made a little more
was Jolio Teixeira Guimaraes) had been a member of
money, went Lo Rio, ran out of money, and decided to
Pixinguinha's group. He never received a formal music
stay. Rio was like a little paradise then. He settled
education; he was a completely self-taught musician, but
there for awhile and then went to Belo Horizonte, a
he knew exactly where the harmonies and counterpoint
beautiful city which bad been inspired by Washington,
were. He learned that from pure instinctive experience.
D.C. He stayed there, I think, for a year, taught, and
He didn't know how to write music, but he left a lot of
became involved in studying the folklore. He had become
original music in the form of recordings. These record·
very attracted to Villa-Lobos' work by then.
ings are beautiful, so good and clear. And he left some
Savio decided to make his home in Rio in 1932 or '33.
duets too, which he played with some of his contemporar­
It was not easy to make a living then because most of
ies. It's known that Villa-Lobos was familiar with his
the guitar students were broke or poor. We were all
music.

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aff ected by the Depression. Brazil was still young and northern part of Brazil. He said there came a time
just barely starting to be an industrial country.Savio when he had to make a decision, because his goal was
might have settled in Sao Paulo, but there had been a to establish a national school for music in Brazil for the
big revolution there in 1932, to overthrow the federal guitar, in the national style bringing that influence.
government and establish a constitutional govern· Also he said he wanted to study philosophy, and he
ment. I had an uncle who fought in that. There were became a Rosicrusian. J don't know how he found time
people in Lhe federal government who accused Sao to do all that. And he enjoyed life too, going out.
Paulo of seceding, but it was not; it was for the consti· At one point, Luiz Bonf� came to study with him, but
tutional movement. The revolution was defeated, but he didn't stay with him long. He had met Savio at that
the ideals came back later on, although by 1937 we had party at the Pixinguinhas, and he said he wanted to
another dictatorship imposed, but Sao Paulo's ideals learn technique. Bonf� had been taught by his father.
came probably much later. So, it was not the right time That was the tradition: one generation to the next.
for Savio to go to Sao Paulo. Things were pretty un­ UsuaJly with a very poor right hand, and the left hand
stable there. a little better than the right. Savio found that a com·
Rio would have been attractive too, because the mon practice in Brazil.
Radio Nacional was there. Laurindo Almeida came Savio taught many people for nothing, and that
from Santos in the state of Silo Paulo and went to Rio happened at the time I was studying with him. The fee
in 1935 because radio was nourishing and had jobs for we paid was so reasonable. He wouldn't accept more.
people . Savio thought of getting a job playing on the We were living under very poor economic conditions at
radio, but I have an old-time friend of his who is now in that time-J'm talking about the late 1950s now, when
his late 70s, who told me that Savio decided then that I was about 11 or 12 years old-and what we worked
he was really more into teaching than into playing. out was that he would come to our house to give lessons,
Savio was mviled to a big party at Pixinguinha's house and then he could spend a nice, quiet Sunday morning
in Rio sometime around 1936 or '37, because he could with us relaxing. Then he would stay and have lunch
play pretty well too. But playmg was not Savio's major with us. It must have been very hard on him, but it was
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Savio told me that wherever he found somebody I was taught by Savio in both ways (that. was his
teaching a little bit, they were using either the Carcassi way); he wanted you to develop a natural instinct. You
or Aguado method. That was much behind what was might use one direction more than the other depending
going on in Argentina at the time, where the Sagreras on your approach, but the presentation of both would
books were already available. Sin6poli had aJso pub­ enable you to create a wide-spread possibility for in·
lished a version ofAguado·s method with some transcrip­ stant changes of style, including stretches for the left
tions on the level of players today. Domingo Prat wa., hand.
another important influence with his ink
l with the old Savio absorbed Llobet's school, which he claimed he
European tradition. I don't think people today could do brought to Brazil. And Savio was fascinated when he
something like his dictionary, even with computers. He heard Segovia. There wa· a different tone quality, and
put so much time into it and didn't have to worry about tone quality was one of the things he insisted on with
the money. He was an incredible scholar. Every bit of every student. Savio and Mae tro Segovia never got on;
information he left us is absolutely true. When Romanillos there were problems. Segovia always had some kind of

1 1968
did his research on the Torres guitar, he took a lot from apparent resistance to Savio, which I found obvious in
Prat, and he found everything that Prat said seemed to when I went to Spain.
be true. He became very close t.o the Anidos, and he kept In Rio, Savio met a few people who were playing in
i n correspondence with Savio too. Actually, in his the choros style. Usually he found that their right hand
Dwcionario he has a verynice quote about Savio, because was in sort of bad shape, but these people were produc·
Savio was unknown then, just coming up. ing pizzicati against a note in the bass line. That was a
Oswarldo Soares wrote the first important method style that Bonfa inherited some of. But Savio wanted
in Brazil, but he taught in a very orthodox so-called them to learn right-hand technique in a more relaxed
Tarrega way that I don't think ever existed. His ap· way within the classical tradition, so you could do that
proach to the right hand was more as you picture the and be able to do that pizzicato too when you wanted.
way Tarrega played, although I firmly believe that. That's what Bonf� mastered an.er he learned 1t. To
Ttirrega didn't play all the time with his right hand as Savio, each student was a special case.
shown in the famous picture-it looks posed for photo­ Savio began to write his books; these were the books
graphing! he wrote in the 1930s that were published by Casa Del
Prat also claimed his approach was very Tarrega­ Vicchio in Sao Paulo, one of the guitar makers. One of
like, and Savio said it was probably true. But Savio had these books of about 15 pages is almost like a condensed
studied with Llobet, and Llobet was his first influence, method on technique. It's a fantastic book with stretches,
just as Llobet's had been Magin Alegre. It was the basis slurs, jumps, thirds, playing the left hand alone with
oft.he idea of using free and rest stroke alternated and harmonics in the right hand-it's incredible, really. He
combined in the right hand, and then they used a began to write his method books in the '30s and gave

1961.
combination of legato and staccato for both hands. them to R1cordi in 1947, and Ricordi finally published
Somewhere along the line he must have had some them in It's interesting. I never studied from these
contact with that, where the right hand is more natu­ books myself. Savio was very economical with his stu·
rally curved and creating more contrast ofarticulation. dents. The books were not there, but he thought I could
Apparently that idea of multi-articulation came from study some technical exercises and go right to the music.

1961
the high level of string playing. When Llobet studied He would go along with what every student needed.
with Ttirrega they probably went into other things. Thesebookscameoutin and aremarvelous, although
Liobet was already a player ofa very high level by then. they have not yet been discovered. The second volume, for
Savio claimed that the multi-articulation idea came instance, has an entire section forstudying chords and all
from Liobet's teaching and immediately absorbed that. forms ofaltered chords that would be very useful forjazz
You apply both rest and free stroke and combine both. people interested in this sort of technique. He was very
That wasTarrega's teaching, which suited the Brazilian farsighted in that. He told Ricordi he had lost a third
need very well. The tendency of the Brazilians was to volume-there were no photocopies in those days. The
play mostly free stroke-one string ringing, while third volume contained very advanced studies. He said
another voice is heard on the immediate string. most of them were inspired by Chopin and used really
Barrios was one of South American guitarists to advanced technique, but. these were lost. We will just

I
play more in the tirando style; that's what Savio in­ have to live with that.
formed me. Barrios became acquainted with the rest­ The presence of Luis Bonf�. inheriting the class1caJ
stroke idea, but probably used it very minimally. This tradition through Savio, changed Brazilian guitar music
is why Savio rated Barrios' style much beneath that of quite a bit at that moment in the late '30s. And so did the
the LlobeUAJegre tradition. figure ofGaroto (Anibal Augusto Sardinha), because he

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was an incredible musician. We can see here how all the surprise, when I went toSpain in 1968, manyofSegovia's
avenues have somehow had an influence. First there was so�ed folJowers were absolutely away from that tracti­
the teacher Oswaldo Soares, who had studied with tion; you know, playing very flat. with no emotion and
Josefina Robledo. Now Soares taught Attilo Bernardini even with no vibrato, which is one of the beauties of the
in Slio Paulo, who published some lovely books and instrument-a replacement ofthe human voice-with a
studies. I went through some ofthese before I met Savio tendency ofa boring one-dimensional playing, emotion­
and think they could be very useful as preparatory less and colorless.
studies. They are influenced by TW'rega-very much in People were becoming more and more interested in
that orthodox style and tradition. Bernardini was the playingthe guitar and Savio was giving free lessons there
teacher of Garoto, and Garoto somehow absorbed his in Sao Paulo, which meantthathe was alwaysfinancially
teaching and modified I.hem a little bit. He probably burdened. By the time I met him around 1955, he was
became acquainted n i directly with Savio's teaching as struggling to make a living. Teaching well, but living in
well; I think musical needs guide you intochange. Garoto a very modest place. I'm very happy that I came at the
was an astonishing figure in Brazilian music. I think he right time. I began to play a lot at that early stage, and by
was a geruus way ahead of his time. He died very young the end of the 1950s the bossa nova had an explosion in
in the 1950s, but he leftan incredible legacy. Fortunately, Brazil.
a collection of his music has been made. Since he studied
with Bernardini, he is the only one in that guitar tradi·
tion who does not. have a direct link with Savio.
Savio also influenced the people interP.st.ed in Brazil­
ASTOR PlAZZOLLA
ian popular music. For instance, you have Dilermando
(1921-1992)
Reis and others who have studied classical music as well.
Then Savio studied the Brazilian forms and began to
As we were going to press, word has reached us ofthe
compose music in these forms and also easy composi­
death on July 5th of Argentina·s great composer of
tions, so that an average person could play something
modern tangos, Astor Piazzolla, at the age of7 l. Nearly
musically with good taste. It's important to have music
two years ago, Piazzolla suffered a stroke from which he
like that. In the meantime, he was teaching traditional
never recovered.
material like Sor and Aguado and reviving them. He had
Piazzolla was born in Mar del Plata, Agrentina, and
studied all that material with Llobet. A couple of his
studied piano and later composition in Paris with Nactia
editions are really wonderful, because, while there were
Boulanger. A gifted player of the bandoneon, Piazzolla
some changes made here and there, he had definitely
became known for his innovative music, which blended
studfod aJI the 19th century traditions wit.h Llobet. He
the tradition tango with elements of jazz and classical
was not happy with some of the publishers in Buenos
music. Many of his pieces became well known in guitar
Aires at the time; they were very tentative. He published
transcription.
a lot of music with Ricorcti in Buenos Aires. I think they
Piazzolla's death comes only a month aft.er the pass­
have quite a legacy of his. There are many ofTarrega's
ing of another of Argenina's great native musicians,
transcriptions which needed a little bit of revision, be­
Atahualpa Yupanqui (see this issue's "Reverberations").
cause Tarrega died without revising them, and, through
the studies, he had with Llobet, Savio just took out a few
of the excessive slides and corrected a couple of wrong
notes here and there. That's all he did. He published a lot
ofTarrega's transcriptions. I believe he also had a corre­
spondence wit.h Tcirrega's son in Spain, as well as with ERRATUM
Pujol. Savio told me that Llobet was a fine, wonderful
player, maybe not with the incredible, immediate impact WeregretthatacolumnappearedintheSpring
thatSegovia had, but probablyjust as musical. Savio said issue of Soundboard CXIX/l) under the wrong
that when he heard Segovia in BuenosAires, the things byline. Due to a printer crr9r1 John W. Duarte's
that caught his altenlion were the phrasing, the com­ "Notes From Europe," a regular feature in these
munication, the exploration of the surprising tone pages, was misidentified on page 76 as another of
colors. Thal side Savio incorporat.ed from watching our features, "Letter From France" by Mary
Segovia play. Criswick.
Bonfa absorbed that. Segovia sound, and I tried to We apologize to Ms. Criswick and Mr. Duarte
absorb it too, because you can creat.e-well, it's like for any inconvenience this error may have caused,
having an orchestra in your hand-you create a palette and wish to give Mr. Duarte all due credit for his
that becomes your sound, instead of playing flat. To my contribution.

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