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Rabbi Uri Pilichowski: Two years ago, I took about 70 students to the White House.

there's two parts to the White House. Most people don't realize this. There’s the White House
that we see on television and then next door to it, within the White House campus, is the
executive office building. We took about 70 students to the executive office building for private
meetings with members of the Trump Administration and their staff.

We walked outside the executive office building [and] there’s a small street between the
executive office building and the entrance to the West Wing, and if you hang out on that
alleyway in that street, you'll run into everybody, everybody and anybody, from the Vice
President all the way through to just about anybody, and I'm standing there with the teenagers
and obviously it's always a little bit of concern how loud everybody's getting and if they're
causing any problems and everybody’s taking pictures, and we're waiting to see who's going to
come, and I turn around and smack into this man. 

Dr. Sebastian Gorka: I didn't hit him. It's okay. 

Rabbi Pilichowski: Dr. Gorka said, “let's go”. I took Dr. Gorka to the western wall. We prayed,
took the picture, the picture went viral. And then came to my house. Uplifting the spirits of the
entire town — he doesn't even know this — when I spread the word. I didn’t want anybody in my
town to know he was there when he was there so he wouldn't be inundated. But afterwards I
explain, that a former aide to President Trump had come to our town, people couldn't believe it.

After years of being demonized, to know that one of the most powerful people in the United
States of America had visited our town, had seen it. We enjoyed a drink, we enjoyed cigars. I
enjoyed a drink, we both enjoyed cigars. 

I learned more in the three to four hours that I sat with Dr. Gorka than I think I've had in the
previous 15 years. Dr. Gorka is an eminent scholar of the military, history of war and how wars
can be fought. President Trump, to his great wisdom, picked Dr. Gorka as an aide. And when we
were talking about prospective speakers, you know who would be amazing, if we could get Dr.
Gorka to speak to us. I didn’t think it could be possible, but immediately Dr. Gorka said yes. 

Without further ado, let’s introduce a dear friend of mine and somebody who I look up to
tremendously, a great friend of the Jewish people: Dr. Sebastian Gorka. 

Dr. Gorka: Thank you, Rabbi Pilichowski. That is an introduction my mother would have been
proud of and, I’m sorry, my father would have been proud of and my mother would have
believed. You have to think about it. Okay, good. Yuri, if I may, that was incredibly, incredibly
generous of you. Yeah. Your life is often measured by, not the successes, not the happy events,
always. Key moments in your life are measured by how you deal with adversity. And specifically,
the measure of the people around you when you are in adversity. And he's been incredibly
modest, it’s becoming of a rabbi, but you need to know that this man is one of the few people
when I was in the White House, and after I left the White House, that stood up to the truth at
personal cost. That's when you know the measure of a man or a woman when they are prepared
to take the slings and arrows of people who lie and people who do not wish to support the
Judeo-Christian values upon which our civilization is built and this man is one of the few that
we can have utter faith in to stand up to those values, so I am indebted to your advice. Thank
you. Okay, so let's get down to business, but what do you want me to talk about? Okay, so I can
do whatever you want. I spent, before I came to the White House, I spent almost a decade
teaching, training our military here, the FBI, our intelligence agents. My speciality was
explaining how the Jihadi movement is built, how the bad guys think and how to destroy them.
Part of that was working with the Green Berets, which I still do in Fort Bragg. There I usually
give an eight-hour lecture — how much time have we got? 

Nine hours.

Dr. Gorka: Nine. Okay, so we'll have some questions, or since I left the White House, I done a
lot of work campaigning for key political figures in the United States who are supportive of the
president, supporting his make America Great Again agenda, and especially those people who
understand what he is doing. So, I am open. I think the most interesting thing for me and for
you is if I answer questions, but let me, and it can be on anything. Hang on. That's keen. That's
keen but just hang on because I have to say one thing first, you know on the record, and then
we'll get to your questions.

I may be preaching to the choir. This may be unnecessary. But even so, it is necessary for you to
be what the military calls force multipliers. Force multiplier is like the reinforcement that makes
a small band of soldiers more effective by multiplying their capabilities and one of the things I
would personally like to ask you to do, as former deputy assistant to the president, former
strategist to President Trump, and also an advisor to candidate Trump, I was asked by Mr.
Trump in the summer of 2015 to advise him on national security issues when he was one of 16 or
17 candidates. It is incredibly important right now that the world, the world understand the very
small window that we are currently living in. What do I mean by that? It is no exaggeration to
say that the current incumbent of the White House Donald J. Trump is the most pro-Jewish,
pro-Israeli president that we have had since 1776. Anybody who doubts me, I always tell them,
whoever you are, whether you're Christian, Jewish, agnostic, secular, I don't care — you can be a
Buddhist, doesn't matter to me — go back to YouTube and watch just the 90 second clip of when
the president landed in Israel. Air Force One landed at night. Watch the video of Melania, the
first lady, and President Trump coming down the stairway to be met by Prime Minister
Netanyahu and the President of Israel. Don't watch the president, don't look at Melania. Look at
the body language and the facial expressions of the Israeli Prime Minister and President. And
what do you see?

It's like long-lost cousins have been reunited after decades of separation. The joy, the openness,
the sense that finally we are back where we need to be. That video tells you, as all the things the
president has done, the reality of where we are now, and the contrast to where we were. I’ll talk
about one factual policy issue and then we can open up to questions. Please, when anybody, it's
so strange to live in this country right now. I'm a proud American now, became an American in
2012. We live in a country where for the last two and a half years, the most pro-Israeli, pro-
Jewish President we have ever had has been called a racist, a bigot, and an anti-semite every
day. Not by just extremists, not by crazy people, not by his political enemies, but also by the so-
called mainstream media. Every day, you can see reportage, you can see TV hosts, radio hosts
talking about the racist president.

At the same time, as this man's chief advisor is his Orthodox Jewish son-in-law. At the same
time that this man's grandchildren are Jewish. At the same time. And this is perhaps the most
powerful indicator, that for the first time in 23 years, we have an American president who kept
his promise to Israel. Just this one thing should tell the doubters how wrong they are. The fact
that 23 years ago the then president promised the world, promised Israel, that we would
recognize Jerusalem and move the embassy, and for the last 23 years, presidents on both the left
and the right broke that promise. Do you know how absurd the situation was? 23 years ago, the
president makes a promise to Israel: “We're going to recognize Jerusalem,” but he didn’t. Do you
know what the law required after that? Everything is not a joke. Every six months, the
incumbent president, whoever it was, Bush, Obama, doesn't matter, had to sign an official
document called a waiver telling the world “sorry, I'm not doing it now. I need a waiver. I always
said it, but you know, no, I'm not doing it.” 

That means the American government, the White House, the president, 46 times, broke our
pledge, our bond.

I'll tell you one story and then I'll open it up. I can't tell you told me this. It was a cabinet
member of the administration. 

When the president finally decided “okay, I’ve had enough, I'm doing this,” less than three
members of his cabinet supported him. Less than three. Others, some of whom had a very, very
hardcore reputation. For example, had nicknames like “Mad Dog,” told the president to his face,
“Mr. President, don't do this, don't recognize Jerusalem, you will trigger World War 3 and I, the
Secretary of Defense, don't have enough Marines to protect all our embassies in the Middle East.
Don't do it.” 

What are the American president do? He said to his cabinet, “I promised the American people
during the campaign that I'm going to do this. I promised our brethren, our cousin's in Israel,
I’m going to do this” and then he added, “oh, and by the way, it's the right thing to do.” 

That is Donald Trump. That is the man they attack day in and day out for being a racist, a bigot,
and an anti-semite. 

And I'll close on this. As my good friend, an Orthodox American Jew, told me, and I always
credit him: “America and Israel have a very special bond.” 

You know, they say we have a special bond with the Brits. They call it the special relationship.
The bond with Israel is much closer, much closer. Read the writings of the founding fathers. The
founding fathers relied heavily on the Old Testament and the story of Israel to guide them in the
creation of America and as my good friend Jeff says, “Israel and America. One nation is the
greatest nation created by God, Israel. And the other is the greatest nation created by man. That
is the basis for a very, very special relationship.” 
OK, questions. First, right in the back.

Thank you so much, Dr. Gorka…

Dr. Gorka: Sure.

One of the things we’ve been touching upon…

Dr. Gorka: Where are you from?

I’m from Florida.

During the worldwide threat assessment, which is given to the president every
single year by the intelligence community, they claim that Iran was getting their
hands on the Houthi rebels in Yemen and they were having Hezbollah and Syria.
They were basically going around all over Israel trying to get their hands around,
Hezbollah’s been attacking Israel, they had this Operation Northern Shield… Um,
the president said that he’s going to pull out troops from Syria, the president’s
been very adamant on trying to bring troops back. In your opinion, do you the
president is going to have to either use the military to engage or some sort of
economic warfare to stop Iran from spreading their reach?

Dr. Gorka: Uri, you said these were high schoolers. Wow. Okay, so with regards to Iran policy
and Syria, the end of your question is already happening. We have engaged in economic warfare
against Iran. Iran's economy has collapsed, the stock market has gone to half of its value in just
recent months. They are in big, big trouble in Iran. But with regards to Syria, let me first presage
that with a strategic statement about the president. You need to understand something about
the president. You cannot fit him into a neat category or box. Yes. He's not a neoliberal neocon.
He's not establishment GOP. You have to always remind ourselves, for the first time since the
American Revolution, first time ever, we chose a president who had never held public office or
had been a general. It's never happened before. From Washington to Obama, every single
president had either been a senior general who had been a governor or senator or congressman.
We chose somebody who's a complete outsider so he doesn't fit into neat boxes. He's a patriot
who loves his country and he saw the situation that was broken and had to be fixed.

As such, he's not a neoconservative interventionist, right. His first reaction is to always bring our
boys home. It’s his default setting. Yeah, bring him home. We've been fighting, he says, stupid
wars for 18 years. What did it get us? Okay. Now, nevertheless, he's not a Rand Paul isolationist.
This is how DC thinks. You've got to be invading countries or you got to be an isolationist. No.
This guy's a common-sense businessman in the middle who says, if you threaten me or my
friends, I'm going to hammer you. You see what he did with those cruise missile strikes over
chocolate cake, right? He's having chocolate cake with the premier of China and said, “oh, by the
way, Assad was going to use some chemical weapons, so I just dropped 49 cruise missiles on his
head, right? So he's not an isolationist. He's just, he acts when action is required, but in the
meantime he wants other nations to be responsible for their own self-determination. He’s not
going around trying to create cookie cutter versions of America. Specifically, let's go down to the
theatre level, to operations in Syria, and, look, as much as I can say in this environment, a lot of
people were worried with the president's decision to bring back two thousand Marines, and I get
it, I get it. Assad is a murderer. He's not as bad as his dad, but he's a mass murderer bad guy.
But, as long as Assad enjoys the support of not only Iran — Iran’s one issue, yes — but Russia
and China, he’s staying in Damascus. He's not going anywhere because if you want to take him
out, who do we have to go to war with? Russia and China. Not smart. Yes. I mean, it's not smart.
His priority was to stop the bloodshed as soon as possible and then try and isolate the situation.
Having 2,000 Marines in the middle of Syria is not a strategic asset. In fact, it's a liability
because they’re conventional forces, which means they're basically 2,000 guys sitting there with
targets on their backs.

Let me reassure you, though, the president fully — look, I was the national security guy — the
president fully understands what Iran is doing, from the Quds Force to the IRGC, down to the
Beqaa Valley, he knows exactly what they're trying to do. We have to deal with the Sunni
caliphate — think about it — nobody in the mainstream news is talking about the fact that
yesterday, we finally destroyed the last stronghold of the ISIS caliphate. It's gone — not 95%
gone — gone totally. Yeah, and he understands that the fight with global Jihad isn't just about
Sunnis. It's about Shia as well. There's no difference between ISIS and the mullahs. In fact, they
both want a caliphate, the big difference is what, who's going to run it? Is it going to be Shia
fundamentalists or is it going to be Sunni fundamentalists, so he's fully aware?

Let me reassure you with this, and I can't say more, specifically, even after the withdrawal of
2,000 Marines, this nation has capabilities that it can use in Syria that other nations can only
dream about — even Israel. Israel is amazing. I'll give it to you. Especially their undercover
intelligence capabilities — best in the world. But we have technological, standoff, and dark/black
capabilities that the president is fully knowledgeable on and will be used — I’ll be careful with
my tenses here — will be used as he deems fit to ensure that Iran does not realize its regional or
global objectives. Can't say more than that. Great question. Yes.

As someone who is an expert in national security, and in Israel, it’s sort of believed
that the terrorists have their own country in Gaza and it’s not like they’re just
guerrilla fighters. For Israel, in order to minimize the threat on civilians without
spending tonnes of money on rockets and limiting their soldiers’ deaths, how
would you say is the best way of limiting Hamas in Gaza without using all those

Dr. Gorka: Softball. It’s going to solve Hamas and Hezbollah for you. Look, I really can't say
more than as Israel does. I mean, Israel’s, as I said, Israel's capability and I'll be blunt here,
right? I'll call a spade a spade. Israel in national security terms is a rather dichotomous security
culture, because at the tactical level, at the lowest level, you have the best of the best of the best.
There is no nation, no nation, except maybe the Jordanian’s, who can penetrate terrorist cells
with human assets the way Israel can. It's just a fact. The capabilities you have developed since
1948 are remarkable.
The one weakness Israel has is because you've been surrounded by enemies since you were re-
established, it’s very hard for you sometimes to step back and look at issues from 50,000 feet,
right? Because you're fighting for your survival every day, you’ve got to make sure your
magazines got bullets in it, right? So you're focused on what we call the five-metre target, not the
one-mile target. So I would say that's a little word of advice that to sometimes step back and
think about the bigger picture, not always what has to be done on a day-to-day basis on the
tactical level, and what can you do better? It's already happened. Who've you got on your side
now? After eight years of being treated like a pariah state by Obama, you've got the most
powerful nation in the world at your back supporting you, and at the end of the day, I am not,
this isn't a platitude, I sincerely believe this in my heart, the beautiful thing about Israel, is that
Israel will do whatever it takes to protect Israel. And you can't say that about many, many
Western countries. So, you're doing just fine, keep on doing it, and let's make, those ties those
bounds to America even stronger. Okay. Next question. Yes, there's two on that table. Let's go,
blue shirt, white shirt.


Dr. Gorka: Sure.


Dr. Gorka: How did I get my job?


Dr. Gorka: With the president? Or how did I get into this field?


Dr. Gorka: Okay, so I'm a boy. Grew up a boy. So boys like to do what? Play soldiers, right?
Fight, play soldiers. I mean, you know, it's just life. Yeah, you can give them dolls to play with
but sooner or later they'll find a stick and turn it into a gun. Okay. It's it's called being a boy. So I
played soldiers. I love military history all that stuff, and then the real kind of catalyst was in a
college. There was a buddy of ours who every two weeks on Friday afternoon, he’d disappear.

And he wouldn't tell us where he's going. And one Friday I said to him, “hey buddy, you're
coming out with us. Today. We're partying you're coming with us”. And he said “I got to be
somewhere. I can't go I can't go with you. I said, “what do you mean? Where are you going? I
said, “look I can't tell you. But why don't you come with me?”

I was a long-haired philosophy student and I thought I’ve got nothing better to do except, you
know, party with my buddies. So I went with him downtown London to unlock red brick
building, which turned out to be the local headquarters of the British Territorial Army Reserves
intelligence Corps. So it was an intelligence unit of the uniformed Army Reserves and it was
selection weekend for applicants to join. And I thought okay, I hung out with a bunch of
absolute eccentrics. You can imagine British Army Reserve Army intelligence. I mean, just crazy
guys. Loved it, pass the selection, had to get my hair cut and then I became a member of the
intelligence Corps Reserves. Played at that for three years during college. Then the Berlin Wall
fell because I speak Hungarian, French, and German. I was offered a job working for the deputy
defense minister, the first free government in Hungary, after the fall of Communism. So,
working defense department for five years. And then the real last piece of the puzzle is 9/11 hits
and a Marine Corps Legend called Nick Pratt, former CIA operative, invited me to become a
professor on a program of counterterrorism training for allies around the world including Israel.
And I did that for four years based out of Germany. By that time I met an American lady,
married her and then we moved to America 11 years ago. I became a professor for the Defense
Department here in Washington. And then in the summer of 2015, I'm teaching, I'm at Marine
Corps University. I get a phone call from somebody called Corey Lewandowski. Had no idea who
he was. He was Trump's campaign manager, and he said, “Mr. Trump would like to talk to you
because he has a National Security debate this fall and he needs somebody to help prepare him.”

So sure I flew to New York met Donald Trump in his office and halfway through the
conversation. We had this incredible conversation from you know, the Civil War, to ISIS, to
nuclear weapons, and halfway through he stopped the conversation. There was only three of us,
looked at Corey in the corner, and did a classic Trump. He said, “I like this guy, let's hire him,”
and then I became an advisor to Mr. Trump. I started working on his transition team for General
Flynn and then was sworn in as his Deputy the day of the inauguration. 

How did I get to where I got to?

I'll give you a piece of career advice. And it doesn't matter what field you go into. Okay, I've
given this piece of career advice to hundreds of young professionals, whether you're going into
medicine, media, National Security. It's the same.

Work your tail off, get the academic credentials. It's fine. But the world is full of Harvard
graduates. Okay, so you've got to differentiate yourself because when you apply for a job, there
will be a pile of resumes this big on the person's desk and the top, you know, 20, are going to be
Yale, Harvard, and Princeton. So, what do I look for when I hire somebody? It's not that they
went to an Ivy League. I look for somebody who's unusual and self-motivated. You could have
gone to some college I've never heard of, but you spent your summer teaching yourself
Mandarin Chinese? Now, I'm interested. Okay, so show that you are prepared to go the extra
mile. Secondly, and this is the biggest thing I learned through doing in this city.
Don't get blinded by the fancy affiliations, the nice letterheads; "Oh, he works for AIPAC." "Oh,
he works for Heritage." "Oh, he works for CSIS or the Council on Foreign Relations." Ignore that
garbage. Okay, it's fluff. It's just letterheads. Find (and social media is massively good for this)
find the individuals at those organizations who are really at the top of their game, the people
who again and again and again, write and speak in ways that blow everybody else out of the
water. Whether it's Michael Rubin at AEI who's absolutely incredible on Iran. Whether it's Ilan
Berman at the American Foreign Policy Association, I don't care about AEI, I don't care about
American Foreign Policy Council, I care about that man who knows more on this issue than
anybody else and your goal is to become that person. Become that person. 

And the last thing in this is hard to engineer artificially, you got to have mentors. I had a crucial
mentor in my twenties because America is a meritocracy, but at the end of the day, it's a
meritocracy where somebody has to open the door for you, for you to be able to show how good
you are. And that means knowing people, it means interning for free. It means working the
circuit. You're all young kids (but I'm sorry I'm prattling on, but I've learned this the hard way) if
you want to work in politics, if you want to work in anything that matters, that's national you
have got to work in this city, and you've got to invest a year and a half, you've got to print some
business cards go to events, press the flesh, shake hands and introduce yourself after a year and
a half you will have mapped this city and you will know who to trust and who to work for. 

That's what I did and it got me a job in the White House. Think about that, an immigrant, I had
only become an American in 2012 and in 2017 I'm walking around the Oval Office of the West
Wing -- and not as a tourist. So, only in this country and it is possible! 

If you've got any more questions like that, I don't want to monopolize you, but that's an
incredibly good question. Anybody got more questions like that -- email me. Okay or just go to my website and send a message. It’s Any
kind of career-related stuff, I'm happy to give you pointers on. 

Yes, white shirt.


Dr. Gorka: Sure. Again, look the questions already been asked. You've got to do it. Okay. Let
me expand upon it. 

So number one, you're already doing the easy part. The easy part is, I tell Americans, we had an
attitude to terrorism that was the right attitude after 9/11, but it lasted less than a year.

Everybody realized that the frontline in this war is when you leave your house in the morning.
Everybody is on the frontline, Israel's been living that for decades and decades and that you've
been living it since 48.

So you're doing, you know, everybody's aware everybody's comments. And if you see something
suspicious you report it. So that's good, you're doing what has to be done. The piece that we have
to work at harder as Israel and as Americans (this is my specialty) is the next stage, and the next
stage isn't killing terrorists or neutralizing them. I have nothing against killing terrorists. I am
down with killing terrorists, but when do you win the war with a terrorist organization?

It's not when you count the number of body bags. I mean, look, the story I used to give when I
worked with the military all the time, America has the capacity. If you tell us where the bad guy
is and the president or the Secretary of Defense gives you the green light, we can kill you
anywhere in the world within 72 hours. It really doesn't matter where you are. We can find and
kill you. Nobody (else) has that capacity. 

Now that's great. But what happens when you go after a high-value Target in Afghanistan or in
the Philippines or wherever and you zap them, you send in a Delta team you send in the UAV
(whatever it is) what happens when you kill them, and the next day twenty-five jihadis volunteer
to replace him? What did you create it? It's just a cycle. It's just a cycle, and it will go on and on
and on, and your children or my grandchildren will be fighting Jihadis; Hamas, Hezbollah,
could force Al-Nusra, whoever, Hizb ut-Tahrir. When do you win? You win when people no
longer want to become terrorists.

That is the definition of victory. How do you do that? You do what we did to Nazis. You have to
destroy their ideology. You have to make their ideology un-sexy. Right now, if we did a little
experiment if you went out to the mall, we went out to Pennsylvania Avenue right now, and we
took a big flag pole and we put a swastika flag on it, and we march down the mall, we would be
uncool, right? People would say, "what are you doing? You're a fascist! You're a Nazi." We have
to do exactly the same thing with the black flag of jihad. And the problem is, it is way too cool.
Not just on the West Bank, not just in Gaza, but in Manchester, England. In Berlin in Germany,
in Minnesota in America. So, I'm a child of the Cold War, we have to double up our counter
propaganda effort and we have to destroy the attractiveness of the ideology with counter-
propaganda, but I'm not going to say anymore because that really is the eight-hour lecture. 

Okay. Let's go over here, in the white sweater.

I got time for like three more questions. So let's get going.

(Inaudible question about disclosing the Trump plan for the middle east)

Dr. Gorka: I’ll tell you what I can, what I'm allowed to tell you. The Trump plan is pretty
obvious, crush the physical state of... the physical caliphate of ISIS. Assist our local partners,
including the Muslim leaders in Jordan and Egypt and elsewhere, to work with our partners
such as Israel, our allies, to crush all versions of global Jihadism to contain Iran and then... In
the beginning, we had a plan under my friend Jason and under the president's son-in-law,
Jared, to be a catalyst for some kind of resolution of peace between the Palestinian Authority
and Israel. I was on the periphery of that. I advise Jason informally on numerous occasions.

I'll tell you. Since I've left government service. Jason did a very, he took a very amiable stance,
he knew nothing about these issues. He was a lawyer, a businessman, very successful. He took
on his shoulders a very tough job for the president and he went into it absolutely neutral. He
said, "I'm going to listen to both sides and I want to try and be the person who brings them to a
table. I'll listen to them together and I'll be fair." To his credit, Jason Greenblatt was absolutely
fair and listened to them. Even though we tried to hint to him only one side you are talking to
actually wants peace. The other side doesn't. But we said, "look you got to learn this for yourself,
don't listen to us.”
He now knows. He now knows because he's talked to them. He now knows that one side of this
negotiation is financially rewarding the families of terrorists.

He now knows that they have done absolutely nothing to dissuade to discourage the Palestinian
Authority's organizations and the people living there from killing innocent Jews.

As such I think the peace process (and this is absolutely personal opinion) is dead. And now it is
time to support Israel so that it can defend itself. 

(Inaudible question about being a commentator on Fox and media polarization)

Well, I think, I think that the question is posited in an incorrect way. Fox is not partisan. Sean
Hannity is, and he says so, right? Tucker Carlson is, and he says so, because they run opinion
shows. Bret Baier, Bret Baier is the best new show in America, right? Because he has no ax to
grind. So the idea that "Fox is conservative" is wrong. Conservatives like Fox because they have
the most successful cable show in America, Sean Hannity. This is, can I just share some facts? So
the population of America's 123 million people. Do you have any idea how many people watch
the most popular CNN show every night? So, that's what's his face? Anderson Cooper. Have a
guess, how many people? 0.25 percent. 0.25 percent, on a good night Anderson Cooper has
700,000 viewers out of 320 million Americans. Who has the most popular show? Sean Hannity.
When I was in Singapore with him for the summit. We broke all records. We had five almost six
million viewers.

If CNN wasn't paying American airports to show CNN at their check-in desks, it would be three
people watching CNN. Now to your question. So Fox is, I don't think it's partisan, I think it has
conservative shows on it. The problem is a CNN and MSNBC that says "we're neutral, we're
totally unbiased, but the president's an anti-Semite, bigoted racist homophobe." Right? Every
night, that is divisive. I mean, I have a national radio show now three hours a day
called America First and I use... (in Salem) I use a regular cut from Don Lemon, pfft. Don
Lemon actually said this recently. He said on his show:

"We have to stop dehumanizing fellow Americans." Next sentence, "And we have to realize that
the only problem we really have in America is white men." I mean, seriously how dense are you
that you don't even see, that you don't see the irony of how biased you are? Don't dehumanize.
Oh, your skin colour’s wrong. That's a massive problem. But look, at the end of the day, as an
American now, I think Americans one of the key characteristics of Americans is common sense,

I mean common sense, and I think most Americans, they laugh at these morons. Yeah. I mean,
did you watch somebody I put on my Twitter feeds @SebGorka? Who's the woman (knocking on
glass) who's the crazy woman with the short hair? Maddow. 

Somebody, last night when the Mueller report came out, somebody at home zoomed in on
Maddow's face. Okay, on his TV screen, as she was saying that "there are no indictments in the
Mueller report. Nobody else is going to prison." And zoomed in to focus on the fact that she was
crying, crying because the president's son isn't going to prison.

The person posted the video, you know what Twitter did to him? Banned him. Twitter banned
him. He didn't make something up, he didn't insult Rachel Maddow. He showed the video of
how bias she is, that she can't report the fact that there are no more indictments without crying.

Yeah. I think that's a problem. But at the end of the day, I think most of… Look, the president
right now has a popularity index that exceeds, by six points, President Obama's popularity at
this stage of his presidency despite, according to the polling, according to the the measurements,
93% negative media coverage for the last two years. What… think about, could imagine that for
two years you've been pummelled 92% of the coverage is calling you a racist bigot, homophobe,
Islamophobe, right? And then your actual popularity is higher than Obama's. What does that
mean? It means most Americans are saying sorry, Rachel. No thanks. Okay, so it’s a problem,
but not as big as it should be because thanks to these things, thanks to our phones, we have
access to information in ways that we've never had before. Last question. We haven't had any
ladies. Yes, last question. 

Hi, thank you so much for speaking to us and giving us a chance to really ask you
questions. I was wondering, we’re all high school students, how can we combat
anti-Semitism, anti-Israel remarks that we face on a daily basis?

Dr. Gorka: Wow. Wow.

So I'm not going to pull any punches here and my answer isn’t a cop out.

Because it's the truth.

I talk about my experience.

So my father was nine when World War II started. My mother was born in 1939.

They lived under the horrors of World War II they lived on as children under the fascist
occupation of Hungary.

In my book, Why We Fight, in the opening chapter I talked about the fact that my father, who
was a Catholic, Christian school boy, escorted his fellow Jewish school mates, who were forced
to wear the yellow star after the fascists took over, he escorted them, held their hand and
escorted them to school every day, and escorted them home so they wouldn't be abused and spat
upon by the occupational German forces. And as a result, my family was recognized by The
Budapest Jewish Community after the war. Then my father was arrested for being an anti-
communist, tortured by the secret police and given a life sentence in a political prison at the age
of 20. Two years in solitary, two years down a prison coal mine only to be liberated during the
glorious ten day revolution in 1956 that gave some hope to Hungary. He escaped to the West
with the 17-year-old daughter of a fellow prison mate literally crawling through a minefield into
Austria and became refugees, and then they ended up in the UK. That 17-year-old became his
wife and my mother, and that's how I was raised in the UK.

So that's my history. And it's not a unique one. I mean, there are millions of people in Europe
who went through that during the war and after the war, can tell stories of being tortured and
persecuted, millions and millions and millions. So it's not unique. But it's shaped me and my life

I can tell you when my life changed as a child. I am blessed. I was never persecuted like my
parents were.

But my father was a great athlete who was on the national rowing team before the secret police
arrested him. He loved to swim. And on summer vacation when I was maybe seven or eight
years old, I was on the beach playing with my toys and my father comes out of the sea after
swimming. Big, big hawk of a man. And I saw on his wrists these white lines that I've never
really noticed before and like a silly little kid I said to him, “Hey, Dad, what's that?” Because he
was too young to be wrinkled on his wrist.

Without skipping a beat, totally unemotional, he looked at me and said, “Son, that's where the
secret police bound my wrists together with wire behind my back so they could hang me from
the ceiling of the torture chain.”

That's when my life changed.

Because when they came after me personally in the White House, I had one publication. It was
sadly a Jewish publication called The Forward that wrote 40 hit pieces on me calling me a Nazi,
an anti-Semite, a fascist, a racist, including my son. High school aged son. They wrote an article
calling him a traitor.

When those things were coming at me, I understood, hey, look it's because I work for the
president, and he's a friend of Israel and he’s standing up for the truth. I'm just a proxy for the
president. But you know what I said to them? Whether it was The Daily Beast, The Huffington
Post, the Washington Times, CNN, I was very clear in my mind. You know what? I don't have
scars on my wrists from where they hanged me from the ceiling of the torture chamber, so bring

Bring it.

Because it's just words.

So my message to you, and it's not a cop out, because I've lived it and I have the right to say it,
never ever give up and never let them get away with it. Six million murdered.

We will never let that happen again and it is up to you to stand up for the truth. There's only one
truth and every time we say, “oh, I'm not going to risk my grades,” or “I don't want to get kicked
out of the cool kids club at school, so I'm going to just not comment when they say BDS is cool.”
Every time we do that, they win. Every time they do that, a soul cries out saying, will you not
stand for my memory?

So it's easy for me because of my family context. But I would just implore all of you, listen to
what the president said on Thursday when he signed the executive order protecting freedom of
speech on American campuses.

I now use that to close my radio show. I used it yesterday. It's a seven minute segment. He said,
talking to All American students, never give in, never give up, never surrender. 

We owe it to the victims of Shoah. We owe it to future generations to always stand up for the
truth as this good man, the rabbi, and my friend over there does every day. So a more powerful
question I could not imagine.

Stay strong.

You know what's right. Never give up. Thank you.