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City Council Public Hearing Minutes

November 9/13, 2009

Present:
S. Mandel; B. Anderson, J. Batty, T. Caterina, E. Gibbons, R. Hayter,
B. Henderson, D. Iveson, K. Krushell, K. Leibovici, L. Sloan, A. Sohi,
D. Thiele.
Also In Attendance:
D. Piecowye, Corporate Services Department (Law)
A. Sinclair, City Clerk
A. Giesbrecht, Office of the City Clerk

A. CALL TO ORDER AND RELATED BUSINESS

A.1. Call to Order
Mayor S. Mandel called the meeting to order at 1:32 p.m.
Councillors E. Gibbons and D. Thiele were absent.

A.2. Adoption of Agenda

Moved J. Batty – R. Hayter:
That the November 9, 2009, City Council Public Hearing agenda
be adopted with the following changes:
Addition/Replacement Pages:
F.1. Bylaw 15101 – To Establish a Transportation System for
the City of Edmonton
• October 19, 2009, Transportation Department report
2009TD4361
• Bylaw 15101 Attachment 1 of the October 19, 2009,
Transportation Department report 2009TD4361
Carried
For the Motion: S. Mandel; B. Anderson, J. Batty, T. Caterina,
R. Hayter, B. Henderson, D. Iveson, K. Krushell,
K. Leibovici, L. Sloan, A. Sohi.
Absent: E. Gibbons, D. Thiele.

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BYLAWS SCHEDULED TO COMMENCE AT 1:30 P.M.

F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS

F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton

Moved J. Batty – R. Hayter:
That Bylaw 15101, be amended as follows:
1. That on Page 1, section 1, the words “October 2008” be
deleted and replaced with “September 14, 2009.”
2. That on Page 2, section 2(d): the words “Physical
Description of Arterial Roadways Subject to Agreements with
the Province of Alberta – Retaining City Responsibility” be
deleted and replaced with “Description of arterial roadways
under the direction, control and management of the Province
of Alberta – City of Edmonton responsible for maintenance
and rehabilitation.”
3. That Appendices A, B, C and D be deleted and replaced with
Revised Appendices A, B, C and D, as outlined in
Attachment 1 of the October 19, 2009, Transportation
Department report 2009TD4361.
Carried
For the Motion: S. Mandel; B. Anderson, J. Batty, T. Caterina,
R. Hayter, B. Henderson, D. Iveson, K. Krushell,
K. Leibovici, L. Sloan, A. Sohi.
Absent: E. Gibbons, D. Thiele.

A.5. Explanation of Public Hearing Process
Mayor S. Mandel explained the public hearing process.

A.6. Call for Persons to Speak
A. Sinclair, City Clerk, asked whether there were any persons present
to speak to the following bylaws:

F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton

In favour: I. Blain, West Jasper Place Revitalization Building
Committee; N. MacDonald, Lynnwood Community League; D. Smith,
Parkview Community League; R. Jacobson, Laurier Heights
Community League; T. Wynnyk; B. Stayko; D. Nelson; C. Spencer,
Grovenor Community League; D. Quek, Business Owner; T. Prince,
Edmonton Folk Music Festival Society; D. Donnelly, West Edmonton

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Business Association; B. Van Alstine, Transit Riders Union of
Edmonton; D. Trautman, Argyll Community League; A. Knack; and
D. Kent.

Opposed: D. Jolly; A. Downey-Damato; M. Damato; R. Cherlet;
G. Downie; B. Groenink; B. Stepheson; J. Kolkman; S. Tsang;
I. Hunter; G. Taylor; K. Sloman; W. Jackson; M. Cameron; P. Sekhon,
Business Owner; G. Broadbent; J. Post; Glenwood Community
League; M. Vincze; D. Kereluk, Stony Plain Road and Area Business
Association; K. Driver; D. Jones; F. Laurin; L. Murdova, Orbit Property
Management; B. L. Stewart, Stony Plain Road and Area Business
Revitalization Zone; B. Bussey; L. B. Robinson; S. Goodwin, Canora
Chiropractic; W. Nixon, Corner Pharmacy; U. Buffi; B. Biglow;
D. Gibbens; J. Rieger; C. Floden; A. Skoreyko, Cloverdale Community
League; M. Makarechian, Edmonton Transit System Advisory Board;
B. Coghlan; J. Schroder; D. Krispin; and M. Marriott, Citizens for Better
Transit.
B. Latte and A. Laughlin,Transportation Department; P. Ohm, Planning
and Development Department; and C. Proud, CH2MHill, made a
presentation.
Councillor E. Gibbons entered the meeting.

In Favour:

I. Blain, West Jasper Place Revitalization Building Committee;
N. MacDonald, Lynnwood Community League; D. Smith, Parkview
Community League; R. Jacobson, Laurier Heights Community League;
T. Wynnyk; C. Spencer, Grovenor Community League; D. Quek,
Business Owner; T. Prince, Edmonton Folk Music Festival Society;
D. Donnelly, West Edmonton Business Association; B. Van Alstine,
Transit Riders Union of Edmonton; and D. Trautman, Argyll
Community League, made presentations.

D. Smith, Parkview Community League; R. Jacobson, Laurier Heights
Community League; T. Wynnyk; and C. Spencer, Grovenor
Community League, answered Council’s questions.

Copies of presentations provided by I. Blain, West Jasper Place
Revitalization Building Committee; and R. Jacobson, Laurier Heights
Community League, were distributed to Members of Council and
copies were filed with the Office of the City Clerk.
Council recessed at 3:28 p.m.
Council reconvened at 3:58 p.m.
Mayor S. Mandel; and Councillor D. Thiele were absent.
A. Knack; D. Kent; D. Nelson; and B. Stayko, made presentations.

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A. Knack; and D. Kent, answered Council’s questions.

Mayor S. Mandel re-entered the meeting.
Acting Mayor J. Batty vacated the Chair and Mayor S. Mandel presided

Opposed:

D. Jolly; A. Downey-Damato; M. Damato; J. Lizotte, Business Owner;
R. Cherlet; G. Downie; and B. Groenink; made presentations.

A. Downey-Damato; M. Damato; and G. Downie, answered Council’s
questions.

An informal petition provided by G. Downie, with 1364 signatures, was
distributed to Members of Council and a copy was filed with the Office
of the City Clerk.
Council recessed at 5:28 p.m.
Council reconvened at 7:01 p.m.
Councillors D. Iveson and D. Thiele were absent.
B. Stepheson; J. Kolkman; and S. Tsang; made presentations and
answered Council’s questions.

Copies of presentations provided by B. Stepheson; J. Kolkman; and
S. Tsang, were distributed to Members of Council and copies were
filed with the Office of the City Clerk.

Councillor D. Iveson entered the meeting.
I. Hunter; G. Taylor; K. Sloman; W. Jackson; M. Cameron; P. Sekhon,
Business Owner; G. Broadbent; J. Post; L. Vincze, on behalf of
M. Vincze; D. Kereluk, Stony Plain Road and Area Business
Association; K. Driver; D. Jones; F. Laurin; L. Murdova; Orbit Property
Management; B. L. Stewart; Stony Plan Road and Area Business
Revitalization Zone; and B. Bussey; made presentations.
W. Jackson; M. Cameron; J. Post; D. Kereluk, Stony Plain Road and
Area Business Association; K. Driver; and B. L. Stewart, Stony Plain
Road and Area Business Revitalization Zone, answered Council’s
questions.
Copies of presentations provided by K. Sloman; J. Post; D. Kereluk,
Stony Plain Road and Area Business Association; and D. Jones, were
distributed to Members of Council and copies were filed with the Office
of the City Clerk.
Council recessed at 9:30 p.m.

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Council reconvened on Friday, November 13, 2009, at 9:30 a.m.
Mayor S. Mandel; and Councillors D. Thiele and E. Gibbons were
absent.
Acting Mayor J. Batty presided.
Acting Mayor J. Batty explained the public hearing process for the
continuation of the hearing on Bylaw 15101 – To Establish a
Transportation System for the City of Edmonton.
L. B. Robinson made a presentation.
Councillor E. Gibbons entered the meeting.
S. Goodwin, Canora Chiropractic, made a presentation and answered
Council’s questions.
Councillor D. Thiele entered the meeting.
Acting Mayor J. Batty vacated the Chair and Deputy Mayor D. Thiele
presided.
Mayor S. Mandel entered the meeting. Deputy Mayor D. Thiele
vacated the Chair and Mayor S. Mandel presided.
W. Nixon, Corner Pharmacy, made a presentation.

A.4. Protocol Items

Lorelei Elementary School (S. Mandel)
On behalf of City Council, Mayor S. Mandel welcomed students of
Lorelei Elementary School, their teacher Mr. George and parent Mrs.
Fyith.

F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS

F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton
U. Buffi; B. Biglow; and D. Gibbens, made presentations and answered
Council’s questions.
Mayor S. Mandel vacated the Chair and Deputy Mayor D. Thiele
presided. Mayor S. Mandel left the meeting.

A.4. Protocol Items

Lorelei Elementary School (D. Thiele)
On behalf of City Council, Deputy Mayor D. Thiele welcomed students
of Lorelei Elementary School and their teacher E. Aker.

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Mayor S. Mandel re-entered the meeting. Deputy Mayor D. Thiele
vacated the Chair and Mayor S. Mandel presided.

F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS

F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton
C. Floden; A. Skoreyko, Cloverdale Community League;
M. Makarechian, Edmonton Transit System Advisory Board; and
B. Coghlan, made presentations and answered Council’s questions.
Mayor S. Mandel vacated the Chair and Deputy Mayor D. Thiele
presided. Mayor S. Mandel left the meeting.
J. Schroder made a presentation and answered Council’s questions.
Council recessed at 12 noon.
Council reconvened at 1:34 p.m.
Mayor S. Mandel; and Councillors J. Batty, E. Gibbons, B. Henderson,
and L. Sloan were absent.
Deputy Mayor D. Thiele presided.
D. Krispin, made a presentation.
Councillors B. Henderson and E. Gibbons entered the meeting.
M. Marriott, Citizens for Better Transit, made a presentation.
Councillor J. Batty entered the meeting.
J. Mercer, made a presentation.

A.4. Protocol Items

Centennial Elementary School (D. Thiele)
On behalf of City Council, Deputy Mayor D. Thiele welcomed students
of Centennial Elementary School, and their teacher Ms. Sidhu.

F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS

F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton
G. Racich, Glenwood Community League, made a presentation.
A. Giesbrecht, Office of the Clerk, answered Council’s questions.
Councillor L. Sloan entered the meeting.

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A. Laughlin, B. Latte and R. Boutilier, General Manager, Transportation
Department, answered Council’s questions.

A.4. Protocol Items

Centennial Elementary School (D. Thiele)
On behalf of City Council, Deputy Mayor D. Thiele welcomed students
of Centennial Elementary School, and their teacher J. Cannon.

F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS

F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton
R. Boutilier, General Manager, Transportation Department; P. Ohm,
Planning and Development Department; and B. Latte and A. Laughlin,
Transportation Department, answered Council’s questions.

Moved T. Caterina – D. Iveson:
That any member of Council who may wish to do so be allowed
to speak for an additional five minutes.
Carried
For the Motion: B. Anderson, J. Batty, T. Caterina, R. Hayter,
D. Iveson, K. Krushell, K. Leibovici, L. Sloan,
D. Thiele.
Absent: S. Mandel; E. Gibbons, B. Henderson, A. Sohi.
A. Laughlin and B. Latte, Transportation Department, answered
Council’s questions.
Mayor S. Mandel entered the meeting. Deputy Mayor D. Thiele
vacated the Chair and Mayor S. Mandel presided
A. Laughlin and B. Latte, Transportation Department; P. Ohm,
Planning and Development Department; R. Boutilier, General
Manager, Transportation Department; D. Piecowye, Corporate
Services Department (Law); and A. Giesbrecht, Office of the City
Clerk, answered Council’s questions.
Council recessed at 3:30 p.m.
Council reconvened at 3:56 p.m.
A. Giesbrecht, Office of the City Clerk; D. Piecowye, Corporate
Services Department (Law); D. H. Edey, General Manager, Corporate
Services Department; and R. Boutilier, General Manager, and B. Latte,
Transportation Department, answered Council’s questions.

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Moved A. Sohi – K. Krushell:

That Bylaw 15101 be referred back to Administration to be Transportation
re-advertised and return to a continuation of the Public Due: Dec. 15/09
Hearing on December 15, 2009, from 9:30 a.m. - 5:30 p.m.,
with:
1. An amendment to delete the West LRT Route from the
bylaw and one amendment to delete the Southeast LRT
route from the bylaw.
2. A process to consider these two routes as future
amendments to the bylaw at two separate public
hearings in early 2010.

B. Latte, Transportation Department; D. H. Edey, General Manager,
Corporate Services Department; and A. Laughlin, Transportation
Department, answered Council’s questions.
Carried
For the Motion: S. Mandel; B. Anderson, J. Batty, T. Caterina,
E. Gibbons, R. Hayter, K. Krushell, A. Sohi.
Opposed: B. Henderson, D. Iveson, K. Leibovici, L. Sloan,
D. Thiele.
Change to the Orders of the Day for the November 23, 2009,
Special City Council Meeting
Councillor B. Henderson requested the permission of Council to make
a Motion without Notice on changing Orders of the Day for the
November 23, 2009, Special City Council meeting.

Moved J. Batty – E. Gibbons:
That Councillor B. Henderson be allowed to make a Motion
without Notice on changing Orders of the Day for the
November 23, 2009, Special City Council meeting.
Carried
For the Motion: S. Mandel; B. Anderson, J. Batty, T. Caterina,
E. Gibbons, R. Hayter, B. Henderson, D. Iveson,
K. Krushell, K. Leibovici, L. Sloan, A. Sohi,
D. Thiele.
Moved B. Henderson – E. Gibbons:

That the Orders of the Day for the November 23, 2009, Corporate Svcs.
Special City Council meeting be changed to commence Due: Nov. 23/09
the meeting at 6 p.m. and adjourn at 8 p.m.

Carried

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For the Motion: S. Mandel; B. Anderson, J. Batty, T. Caterina,
E. Gibbons, R. Hayter, B. Henderson, D. Iveson,
K. Krushell, K. Leibovici, L. Sloan, A. Sohi,
D. Thiele.

R. NOTICES OF MOTION

Mayor S. Mandel asked whether there were any Notices of Motion.
There were none.

S. ADJOURNMENT

The meeting adjourned at 5:20 p.m.

________________________ ________________________
Mayor City Clerk

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Index
City Council Public Hearing Minutes
November 9/13, 2009

A. CALL TO ORDER AND RELATED BUSINESS.........................................1
A.1. Call to Order.........................................................................................1
A.2. Adoption of Agenda..............................................................................1
BYLAWS SCHEDULED TO COMMENCE AT 1:30 P.M................................2
F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS..................................2
F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton.......................................................................................................2
A.5. Explanation of Public Hearing Process................................................2
A.6. Call for Persons to Speak.....................................................................2
F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton.......................................................................................................2
A.4. Protocol Items.......................................................................................5
Lorelei Elementary School (S. Mandel)......................................................5
F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS..................................5
F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton.......................................................................................................5
A.4. Protocol Items.......................................................................................5
Lorelei Elementary School (D. Thiele)........................................................5
F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS..................................6
F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton.......................................................................................................6
A.4. Protocol Items.......................................................................................6
Centennial Elementary School (D. Thiele)................................................6
F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS..................................6
F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton.......................................................................................................6
A.4. Protocol Items.......................................................................................7
Centennial Elementary School (D. Thiele)................................................7
F. FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD READING BYLAWS..................................7
F.1. Bylaw 15101 - To Establish a Transportation System for the City of
Edmonton.......................................................................................................7
Change to the Orders of the Day for the November 23, 2009, Special City
Council Meeting.............................................................................................8
R. NOTICES OF MOTION...............................................................................9
S. ADJOURNMENT.........................................................................................9

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