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Richard Brumfield J Craig Canada Leland Cole Marc Scott Emery Rev. Eddy Lepp Dragonflower Lyoness Justin Kander David Malmo-Levine Donna Lambert William West Lee Reisch Melissa Balin Gregory Karl Davis Dennis Peron James Burtnett Russell Arnelle Wiggins Good or Bad? Your opinion count and I really mean that.
Proposed Rules - 2010 - Listing of Approved Drug Products Containing Dronabinol in Schedule III www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov Department of Justice Drug Enforcement Administration Office of Diversion Control
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HTMLDirect James Burtnett What does this MEAN? Sunday at 6:25pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect J Craig Canada "The submissions to DHHS also requested that they consider (1) whether dronabinol extracted from Cannabis sativa (i.e. naturally-derived), is identical to syntheticallyproduced dronabinol found in Marinol[supreg]; and (2) whether a formul...ation encapsulated in hard gelatin capsules, instead of soft gelatin capsules, changes a product's abuse potential. "
I would guess it means CBIS and GWP have submitted applications to the FDA for expedited approval of the CBIS lozenge and GW's Sativex spray, claiming the are the 'naturally-derived' equivalent of marinol. The good side is that it could move medical marijuana, at least in some forms, to schedule 3. The bad news is that only processed forms of marijuana will be schedule 3, smoking it will still be schedule 1. I've only skimmed the document, and probably shouldn't comment until I've digested it.See More Sunday at 6:55pm · LikeUnlike · 1 personJames Burtnett likes this.
HTMLDirect James Burtnett @ J Craig Thanks I was having trouble making sense to it. Sunday at 6:58pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect J Craig Canada Actually, the FDA could decide that it's okay to smoke it so long as it's a smokeless cigarette provided by SFIO, using CBIS hash nuggets made using their patented 'dry-ice extraction' method. Sunday at 6:58pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect J Craig Canada The thing is dronabinol is a synthetic analogue of THC, and contains no CBD or CBN, or any of the other 400 or so compounds found in cannabis bud... Sunday at 6:59pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect J Craig Canada On the pharmaceuticalization of Marijuana - Lester Grinspoon | 2001 http://www.rxmarijuana.com/Pharmaceuticalization.htm Sunday at 7:03pm · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading...
HTMLDirect Richard Brumfield You got it J. Craig! Smoking will still be prohibited! Wait till the next person apply for FDA approval on a natural derived equivalent of marinol which I will be doing in January! You should see the requirements...Say good bye to edibles, ...elixirs, tintincutre, pot cookies, brownies, etc....... P.S. the only good notice is that only Medical Cannabis Patients will be able to have the concentrates! All states watch out for any banned or prohibition on concentrates as you move to medical marijuanaSee More Sunday at 7:10pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith When ya feed the horse, you shovel this shit...;-Q Sunday at 7:51pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith When GW markets hash oil for cancer pain, it seems like it is hard to offer excuses for natural meds not being available...Old hippies at GW pulling a serious dope deal, eh?? Sunday at 7:53pm · LikeUnlike
Don E Wirchafter screwed the country Germany the same way like your talking about, my understanding of it, - their "Sativx" ( a cannabis inhailer of sort perscribed for only one condition as I understand it) is legal and, almost as if in ex...change, cannabis plants as medicine like we have here, remain illegal, it's bullshit - cannabis needs liberating all the way around, and all options and variations on the table for the benefitter's personal and individual choice - That's justice and freedom, nothing less should be consideredSee More Sunday at 7:53pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Richard Brumfield I been talking with my friend Carl Olsen all day on the subject and here his latest take on why CBD and CBN were not listed; Carl I don’t think they knew about CBD or CBN when that law was written. They could easily move like THC, but not wi...thout a drug manufacturer to move them through the process. They are not relevant to anything I’m doing at the moment, but the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has a patent that I think includes them, so they probably will be relevant soon. The key is getting the plant reclassified, since that is the major obstacle right now holding up development of CBD and CBN pharmaceuticals. I may seem like I know a lot, but I don’t know everything. As I progress with my argument, people who have a better knowledge of medical use of cannabis will help me. Listen to my interview with Steph Sherer today and you’ll see what I mean. My skill is bringing in experts when I need them.See More Sunday at 7:59pm · LikeUnlike · 1 personDiana Sunshine Wulf likes this.
HTMLDirect Richard Brumfield I'm in agreement with Carl since the mover of GW and Cannabis Science both staked their claims on marinol thc. Now here come the fun and hard part. Sunday at 8:07pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect J Craig Canada Do you now that about CBIS and GW for a fact? I'm just guessing. I did read something recently that GW had received approval to market Sativex in the U.S. Sunday at 9:02pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith Read Sunil Aggarawals words regardng GW and hashoil ad the changes... Sunday at 9:09pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith From Dr. Aggarawal "GW’s industrial pursuits have done much to add to the understanding of cannabinoid medical science, but their ultimate goal is to bring to the lucrative consumer market highly characterized, FDA-approved, hash oil—mysteri...ously renamed nabiximols—to treat cancer pain."See More Sunday at 9:30pm · UnlikeLike · 1 personYou like this.
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith Entire article http://www.denverlawreview.org/medicalmarijuana/2010/8/23/cannabis-a-commonwealth-medicinal-plant-long-suppressednow.html Sunday at 9:31pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Richard Brumfield http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sativex. You ever heard of NAFTA(North America Free Trade Agreement)? Guess who approval Sativex for uses? Health Canada! I also have a confidential article that I cannot share due to membership cost to join but it have a very good informative article on Sativex. Sunday at 9:41pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith Sativex is glycerin tincture, anyone can duplicate it...the amounts of thc and cbd are published already...just as nabiximol is already being used..."highly characterized hash oil" means "labeled as to cannabinoid content"...nothing more, nothing less, simple ain't it??? Just like proprietary food recipes (Paces Picante for example), it is not illegal to use "copycat" recipes for your own use, just highly illegal to sell the recipes or products as "Pace Picante".. Sunday at 9:50pm · LikeUnlike
Richard Brumfield Now we talking the same languages but remember no sesame oil or encapsulates! Sunday at 9:59pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith I use olive oil and have used gel caps....for oral use, I feel there are digestive issues with pure concentrates, so I suggest putting concentrates in alcohol or oil to use mixing into food...Olive oil is also good for topical uses, as is hemp oil...... Sunday at 10:05pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Richard Brumfield @Sam you think the community know what we been discussing? Kinda curious Sunday at 10:11pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith Some of my peeps follow this.... Sunday at 10:12pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith You should also keep in the back of your mind that the Dutch have raw cannabis in their pharmacies....legal to all EU patients...the international laws on meds also apply... Sunday at 10:17pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Dragonflower Lyoness i haven't read this yet--are you saying, richard, that CBD is not scheduled? if so, i'd imagine that the reason why is because CBD is NOT psychoactive. Sunday at 10:18pm · UnlikeLike · 1 personYou like this.
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith That is precisely why so much cancer research is done with cbd instead of thc...cbd is available to researchers... Sunday at 10:20pm · UnlikeLike · 1 personYou like this.
HTMLDirect Sam Wayne Smith Not because it is always better,but it is always available... Sunday at 10:21pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Richard Brumfield @Sam and DragonFlower that what I been trying to tell people for 2 years about my CBD formulas that they are totally legal! They have always been but no one believe me! Sunday at 10:24pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Dragonflower Lyoness richard, i haven't tried your formulas yet (would love to!); is there zero THC in them? Sunday at 10:41pm · LikeUnlike
HTMLDirect Lee Reisch They are looking a way to make generics and substitutes, and I would think it is better in it's natural forms and rescheduling should be for the entire plant not a mere component, it's still the DEA trying to hold on the last legs of prohibition. this document shows medical relevance of cannabis and should be sent to the president to reschedule cannabis and hemp accordingly with all synthetics and start treating cannabis as a health care matter. Yesterday at 3:30am · UnlikeLike · 1 personLoading...
HTMLDirect Richard Brumfield @ Lee who said it not at his desk? That why the public comments are so important, it will allow the President to enact or not enact this piece of Executive Order. So it not when it get to his desk it's how will it get to his desk by the American people being favorable or unfavorable. It's your choice! Like I said I still on the fence because this is truly a double edged sword for me. So I must process with caution. Yesterday at 6:34am · LikeUnlike
"that cannabis is a medicine with many chemicals within it that are medically efficacious, is just the sort of acknowledgement that is sorely needed -----not a new cannabis pill that will Itself threaten the oil producing activities ...of cannabis collectives that exist within the compassionate use movement" Leland Cole . j Craig Canada said, "The thing is dronabinol is a synthetic analogue of THC, and contains no CBD or CBN, or any of the other 400 or so compounds found in cannabis bud" "Which is a most important point, as it is one that revolves around the issue that makes all the difference to our cannabis community-- both what will get us to cannabis rescheduling, and what will inhibit us in that pursuit". Leland Cole ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, J Craig Canada said, "The good side is that it could move medical marijuana, at least in some forms, to schedule 3" "And thus creating an excuse to block our own community from offering those pure oils we produce from the unlawful substance, as the Fed's will say no medical necessity exists to get it thru unlawful sources, as a legitimate one exists." Leland Cole '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' "Alas, this would not serve to keep our people's liberties in tact, in private, public or in the courts- and therefore, ultimately, it is besides the point. It is through the the U.S. President's Congressional membered drug council, working to cause Congressional acknowledgement, in the form of new federal law……… ……….. that cannabis is a medicine that includes many chemicals , that when taken together have medical efficacy , and in some cases regarding some maladies, can be medically efficacious, even when these chemicals are taken separately from each other. It is such an acknowledgement as this that is sorely needed -----not a new cannabis pill that will Itself threaten the oil producing activities of cannabis coop's and/or collectives
within the compassionate use movement. It is this proposed action of the U.S. Congress, and the subsequent signing off by the Health Sec. on the rescheduling of 'the entire plant' , that would insure our liberties as citizens, and as a cannabis patient community ; which in turn , could then influence the balance of world society, to do likewise, when rewriting their drug laws. Such an action (s) by the Congressional membered Presidential Drug Council ; action (s) that would influence Congress to pass such a law (s), would give the Health Sec. , the political will to sign off on rescheduling. Nothing else will , even though the rights of the Sec. to do so, without the Congress is clear, it simply will not happen without them. …………………………………… ' MEAN ' WHILE…………………………………… http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/index.html just think about that-……the D.E.A. even utilizes the term 'diversion' in their office title. Such propagandists- have they no shame? _______________________________________________________________________ _____________________ In these times, "diversion" is almost always the world government's anti cannabis excuseit is what Harper used as his justification for going after the cannabis patients in Canada, both in the compassion clubs, as well as Canada's federally exempted cannabis patientsthose who are free to designate a grower, and/or grow on their own . And of course, it was nearly all fabrication-a report written by the RCMP, but then, released to the world by a distant UN office , so that Harper and other world leaders could better utilize it*, in a recent and on going worldwide plan of the 'international anti cannabis forces', to suppress our entire cannabis community through out the world, into "near non existence- leading to non existence". A suppression through a kind of 'forced and progressive attrition' of the points of cannabis access that exist within our worldwide cannabis community -- all with the cooperation of our own "failed leadership", * * a kind of 'Cannabis Vichy' ^ , bringing about an artificial cannabis scarcity, of both strain and weight . A scarcity believed by government authority to be low enough, where the entire cannabis community could no longer hold together, as an overground community , in the greater society. The so-called, "ten percent solution".^^ _______________________________________________________________________ _____________________See More about an hour ago · UnlikeLike · 1 personLoading...
An idea that has been one of the logical under-pinnings of the "Compassionate Use Movement s " founding leadership, IS , that most everyone who uses cannabis IS a cannabis patient, including those "cannabis patients in denial" - those s...o called "recreational user's", who are actually self
medicating patients . This idea , that all cannabis use is medicinal, when heard in public or in private, often makes those in the cannabis legalization movement, begin to laugh uncontrollably with rejection-but it is also true , that saying this in the ear shoot of the "the powers that be" -----makes the federal authorities LIVID……. .causing them to rush to "the diversion claim" as their justification for political attacks, as well as actual raids on our community. Such a 'diversion claim' has an additional purpose beyond the political attacks and raids of the moment. For "the diversion claim" that federal authorities hope will eventually be accepted by the people as true, also assumes that there are those among us that use cannabis , that should not be doing so- and that therefore, these persons should be protected from this so called self inflicted harm, by the society itself----through a wide prohibition against all cannabis use by everyone--which of course is the "big lie" that government authority must continue , or be forced to allow the existence of a functioning cannabis patient community, as an cultural institution, within the greater society. Which is another way of saying , if nearly all use of cannabis, is ultimately medicinal cannabis use, then there cannot be such a thing as "cannabis diversion". A truth if accepted widely enough , would then force the re-scheduling of cannabis, which would be the beginning of the end of the prohibition of medicinal cannabis use, both on a federal, and international level. Another words, the beginning of the end of our present worldwide struggle, as a compassionate use community. However, fragments of relief -with a trap or two buried within them,- like the one this government publication has just announced above , is what it is . What it is not , is a decision that will lead to the full rescheduling of cannabis, and therefore, it has nothing to do with the political justice, and eventual cultural progress , we as the worldwide Compassionate Use Movement must continue to seek. Leland Cole footnotes * at the time the report was first to be released, the RCMP was embroiled in a scandal regarding the taser death of a man who was apparently , waiting to be reunited with his loving mother. This mans death. so enraged the people of Canada, that the RCMP approval rating jetted downward , almost reaching single digits. It is believed , that due to this low rating, sometime later, the RCMP report was released by the U.N -so as to allow the Harper government , a (sic) credible source for the diversion story. Harper would later use the so called UN report to suppress the medicinal cannabis community of Canada ** cooperative "failed leadership", who will then quite rightly , be later forced to take the blame, for the cultural collapse - not as scapegoats, but as those who were actually complicit in the collapse of the community, that they once were leaders of. ^-^ a method of causing a cultural collapse of a distinct people, while not being the political entity that is later seen as the source of the final blow, that causes the "ethnic cleansing" to occur……. …… having a direct interchange and utilization of the target communities own" failed
leadership" while reaching for the eventual collapse of their community -when the "the ten percent solution", becomes zero. examples in history with synonyms .^ the french vichyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy#Vichy_France.E2.80.94seat_of_the_.C3.89tat_Fran.C 3.A7ais.2C_the_Nazi_collaborationist_government Vichy taken from the "French Vichy" , french who assisted the German Army before and as they entered France, during World War 2. ………… "failed leadership" is a certain type of past leadership; collaborationist, useful idiot , turncoat, Vichy; Vichy ……a person of threatened affluence and/or political power, gained and/or maintained while once a legitimate leader in the society- who now cooperates with the enemy of their community, in a vain attempt to maintain and/or restore their affluence and political power .…. sometimes operating in an unclear state of mind, where it is thought that the enemy collaboration is actually good work being done to save the community. …….often attempting to enroll others in the political pysc op that is the source of the "failed leaderships" psychotic rescue fantasy……what the French call…. a shared psychosis. .......................................................................................See More about an hour ago · UnlikeLike · 1 person
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