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Just a few minutes until "The Placenta Incident" on #RNchat 9pm Eastern!

Thu Jan 6 17:50:02 PST 2011

Chance for school to draft SM policy RT @RNchat: Judge orders reinstatement for student who posted placenta photo #RNchat http://ow.ly/3zHhk

Thu Jan 6 17:51:19 PST 2011

Welcome to #RNchat everyone! Happy New Year! We'll open for business soon, but first introduce yourselves!

Thu Jan 6 18:00:05 PST 2011

Friso from Holland Emergency Nurse & Chairman of the Nursing Advisory Council @HagaZiekenhuis *Yes, it 3 o'clock at night overhere!* #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:00:33 PST 2011

@FrisoRaemaekers Good morning! ;) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:01:40 PST 2011

Hey Terri here from Missouri-NP,Nurse, Nurse educator- it is NOT 3am where I live - I am impressed @FrisoRaemaekers #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:01:46 PST 2011

Hello, my name is Steve from @ClearMedical. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:01:47 PST 2011

Strategic marketing consultant, Norfolk VA. New, but enthusiatic tweet chatter #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:02:04 PST 2011

SarahBeth, nurse- advanced heart failure. i blog at http://sarahbethrn.com #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:02:11 PST 2011

Tom a cardiac nurse from Oregon. #RNchat Will try to keep up as I make dinner!

Thu Jan 6 18:02:35 PST 2011

sarahbethrn

NursingCenter

nursingpins

DonaldWoodARNP

FrisoRaemaekers

philbaumann

KSkipperFoster

cjbryant

EllenRichter

InfusionNurse

Trybarefoot

EllenRichter

chemosabe

pamressler

Trybarefoot

@asherwat good too see you here! :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:02:58 PST 2011

Hi everyone! Lisa from PA here

Thu Jan 6 18:02:58 PST 2011

nurse,

NP, clinical editor #RNchat

Hi all - vernon in New Orleans - critical care #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:02:59 PST 2011

Don The Intelligent Nurse (coming out this month!) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:03:04 PST 2011

Thanks! Had a nightshift two days ago, so it will be easy tonight #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:03:18 PST 2011

Phil here - started #RNchat and hoping you enjoy tonight's chat. Happy new year!

Thu Jan 6 18:03:34 PST 2011

Hi - Kari - hlthcare strategy consultnt - Va Beach, VA #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:04:02 PST 2011

Brand strategist and innovation catalyst from Norfolk, VA #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:04:02 PST 2011

Hi folks! Ellen here! Once again, I just made it to chat by seconds! Glad to be Critical care RN, Legal nurse consultant #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:04:13 PST 2011

home!

Howdy! Cora here, infusion nurse from Indy #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:04:27 PST 2011

lurking

tonight

happy

new yer to all!!

Gerard in Nova Scotia. Health educator/health care consultant/trainer/facilitator - all that! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:04:37 PST 2011

Wow, nice turnout!! Seems like everyone came by! :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:04:57 PST 2011

Hey y'all. Glen downunda, just sitting down to lunch at work. Will prob just lurk on this one mostly. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:05:05 PST 2011

Hi All -- Pam from MA Stress Management consultant and nurse educator #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:05:17 PST 2011

Grey's Anatomy is on - so I'm gonna chat with #RNchat colleagues instead! :)

Thu Jan 6 18:05:22 PST 2011

InfusionNurse

sarahbethrn

rnchat

DonaldWoodARNP

rnchat

EllenRichter

onlinenursing

onlinenursing

PamelaKline

EllenRichter

Trybarefoot

CyFanRN

healthgist

EdBennett

wanted to see the placenta movie!!! LOL Seems like everyone came by! :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:05:33 PST 2011

RT

@EllenRichter: Wow, nice turnout!!

@EllenRichter everyone brought a friend like we decided last week! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:05:36 PST 2011

OK, we'll start in a moment. We'll have one topic, which we'll break up into smaller sections. See next tweet. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:05:48 PST 2011

Ellen, we all want to hear Phil's ideas about the movie. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:05:56 PST 2011

T1 The Placenta Incident: Was expulsion of SN for posting picture of placenta on FB proportionate? See http://bit.ly/fe7zfe #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:06:24 PST 2011

LOL @ everyone's comments! Great spirits tonight! :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:06:28 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse you are cracking me up! I wanted to see the epic movie too #RNChat (were we supposed to bring a friend @Ellenrichter ?)

Thu Jan 6 18:06:29 PST 2011

@Trybarefoot Good choice Grey's is an abomination to the nursing and health care professions #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:06:55 PST 2011

Hello everyone. Pam Kline a legal nurse consultant from snowy MI! #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:07:09 PST 2011

@onlinenursing Well last week I mentioned that we can grow in 2011 if everyone brings a friend :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:07:23 PST 2011

Tell my WIFE THAT! RT @onlinenursing: @Trybarefoot Good choice Grey's is an abomination to the nursing and health care professions #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:07:30 PST 2011

@RNchat Hey! Amy

Thu Jan 6 18:07:45 PST 2011

clinical

research RN w/ cardiac background. #rnchat

http://j.mp/9ZzB0z @EdBennett Hi everyone - I'm Ed and I'm not a nurse. I'm

going to lurk tonight

Thu Jan 6 18:07:59 PST 2011

#rnchat

Hi everyone - I'm Ed and I'm not a nurse. I'm going to lurk tonight

Thu Jan 6 18:07:59 PST 2011

#rnchat

Did anyone hear anything about the nursing instructor that allowed the photos?

DonaldWoodARNP

jrobinsonRN

EllenRichter

philbaumann

nursingpins

onlinenursing

Trybarefoot

CruiseAcademy

PamelaKline

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EllenRichter

Wanderer_RN

Trybarefoot

sarahbethrn

jrobinsonRN

#RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:08:01 PST 2011

Want to say it was too much but this problem is happening too often and they were trying to send a message to make it stop fast #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:08:16 PST 2011

@PamelaKline A fellow JERK :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:08:22 PST 2011

I figured "The Placenta Incident" kinda captured the craziness of it all #RNchat Plus it sounds epic. :)

Thu Jan 6 18:08:31 PST 2011

T1 No - was a bad mistake for the school - and the student. "Lesson Hard Learned" #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:08:53 PST 2011

@EllenRichter Awesome!!! I will bring one next time #RNChat - re: friend (perhaps @trybarefoot 's wife to pull her away from bad TV)

Thu Jan 6 18:08:56 PST 2011

Awesome - I'm on #RNchat too - juggling! RT @gminks: @Trybarefoot we just started, well we're only on Q2 #lrnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:08:59 PST 2011

Amanda from NJ here

Thu Jan 6 18:09:02 PST 2011

Community/MH & Cont Ed Cruises #RNChat

Hey Ellen and Jennifer :) #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:09:10 PST 2011

@EdBennett Hi Ed, NRN ;) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:09:12 PST 2011

@onlinenursing Haha :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:09:29 PST 2011

Better idea! RT @Trybarefoot: Grey's Anatomy is on - so I'm gonna chat with #RNchat colleagues instead! :)

Thu Jan 6 18:09:32 PST 2011

Good luck RT @onlinenursing: Awesome!!! I will bring one next time #RNChat (perhaps @trybarefoot 's wife to pull her away from bad TV)

Thu Jan 6 18:09:46 PST 2011

T1 The punishment did not fit the "crime", I'm still confused. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:09:52 PST 2011

@PamelaKline Hey chick! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:10:03 PST 2011

EllenRichter

rnchat

onlinenursing

Trybarefoot

nursingpins

MindyGlaze

cjbryant

Wanderer_RN

SteveCarran

cmizer17

InfusionNurse

sarahbethrn

EllenRichter

DonaldWoodARNP

@EdBennett Nice having you lurk! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:10:14 PST 2011

T1a So there's many angles here of course. Let's assume SN was in the "wrong". Is expulsion a professional response? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:10:23 PST 2011

T1 - Punishment did not fit the so-called crime as far as I can tell? Don't we usually give peeps warnings 1st, then re-educate? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:10:34 PST 2011

TI Not up on the 'placenta incident' - sorry - details?? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:10:44 PST 2011

T1 if a good social media policy had been in place - this story would have a different ending. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:11:06 PST 2011

non RN, interested in the convo, following along. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:11:15 PST 2011

Would the punishment had been as severe if she put the picture in a student newsletter or on the bulletin board? #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:11:18 PST 2011

T1, think they took a small situation and let it blow up out of control. Poor taste?

Yes. Big issue? Not really

Thu Jan 6 18:11:21 PST 2011

#RNchat

@SarahBethRN T1 I agree, I think they wanted to make an example out of her to prevent it from happening again. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:11:22 PST 2011

I Think The Kids. Being Kicked Out For The. Placenta Photos Is Ridiculous! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:11:34 PST 2011

i agree

story would have a different ending. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:11:42 PST 2011

RT

@nursingpins: T1 if a good social media policy had been in place - this

t1a assuming she was wrong, it seems JCCC considered "teaching" to be expulsion. "teachable moment" #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:12:01 PST 2011

T1 I agree with @onlinenursing that she needed to learn first, & get some disciplinary action but not what she got #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:12:05 PST 2011

They could have made the example way short of expulsion. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:12:14 PST 2011

pamressler

jrobinsonRN

nursingpins

onlinenursing

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sarahbethrn

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EllenRichter

Wanderer_RN

DonaldWoodARNP

KSkipperFoster

nursesluck

InfusionNurse

Aggiern95

I agree the @nursingpins. It shows that we need think about SM guidelines for SONs #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:12:24 PST 2011

They violated privacy - should have known better by now.This could cost hospital $$$$$ in fines for privacy violation. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:12:27 PST 2011

T1 too bad it took a fed judge to get her back in school #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:12:29 PST 2011

@nursingpins Yes need good policies,afraid now that like an institution I know, now very restrictive SM policies will erupt all over #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:12:35 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN there was no privacy violation #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:13:10 PST 2011

No, They would have never known RT @cjbryant: Would the punishment had been as severe if she put the picture on the bulletin board? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:13:22 PST 2011

T1 There's a bit more detail on the story here for you to check out l8r http://bit.ly/eeS70H #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:13:42 PST 2011

@cjbryant No it wouldnt have. But the web is very public & the school needs enrollment so they gave a powerful public response #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:13:45 PST 2011

T1, I don't believe they violated privacy - no info was displayed/disclosed. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:13:54 PST 2011

Many organizations consider over reaction to be the best kind of reaction. They should learn to be proactive. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:13:57 PST 2011

agree w @nursingpins - no identifying the placenta #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:13:59 PST 2011

#RNchat Granted that the SNs need to learn sensitivity and that most of what we do isn't "table talk", still it was wrong to expel them.

Thu Jan 6 18:14:00 PST 2011

got permission from clin instructor to post pic RT @nursingpins: @jrobinsonRN there was no privacy violation #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:14:03 PST 2011

+ 1 RT @nursingpins T1 if a good social media policy had been in place - this story would have a different ending. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:14:03 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN

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nursingpins

jrobinsonRN

onlinenursing

EllenRichter

CruiseAcademy

nursingpins

NursingCenter

FrisoRaemaekers

jrobinsonRN

JoeCascio

EllenRichter

sarahbethrn

Trybarefoot

@nursingpins Posting pictures of any part of a patient violates privacy if pt did not sign consent. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:14:20 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN Do we know for a fact that they violated privacy? Do you have a link? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:14:40 PST 2011

T1 the students case http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/12/28/Placenta.pdf #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:14:50 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse @nursingpins If an instructor ok'd it, I'm not impressed with the judgement of that instructor. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:14:57 PST 2011

@SarahBethRN agree - her teachers would have probably loved to see her so excited Re:posting pic on bulletin board in the building #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:15:06 PST 2011

T1 It was a placenta! What privacy?? HIPPA? Come now. It was just distasteful for a young nurse to post it on the web. Period #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:15:07 PST 2011

I don't think she should have been kicked out. Distasteful? Maybe? But she looked excited to dissect the organ. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:15:11 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN wrong #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:15:11 PST 2011

@EllenRichter Thanks Ellen ~ hadn't thought about that. JCCC definitely has gotten a lot of press. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:15:41 PST 2011

Wow, this is going fast, today! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:15:54 PST 2011

@rnchat We have to get consents to take pictures of wounds for documentation, how is this different? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:16:07 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN What about clinical trials? As long as info is anonymized, how is anyone hurt? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:16:12 PST 2011

@CruiseAcademy I agree with you. I think she was just young really do need to create policies as a result of it #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:16:13 PST 2011

& foolish but we

Placentas are considered medical waste. How is that private? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:16:21 PST 2011

Thx! RT @RNchat: T1 There's a bit more detail on the story here for you to check

nursingpins

cjbryant

JoeCascio

InfusionNurse

onlinenursing

CruiseAcademy

sarahbethrn

SusanCarr

nursingpins

Trybarefoot

EllenRichter

Wanderer_RN

CyFanRN

jrobinsonRN

out l8r http://bit.ly/eeS70H #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:16:36 PST 2011

T1 - fed judge ruled not a privacy violation today - was schools contention #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:16:52 PST 2011

@EllenRichter I don't think intent was to "post on the web"; I think she was sharing her excitement w/friends & family #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:06 PST 2011

@EllenRichter I agree #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:09 PST 2011

poor judgment perhaps, but no one's privacy was violated.

@jrobinsonRN RT @sarahbethrn: Placentas are considered medical waste. How is that private? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:10 PST 2011

@CruiseAcademy I get excited to dissect parts too. It is very cool! #RNChat - (also what about med waste status? like Blood/excrement)

Thu Jan 6 18:17:24 PST 2011

So, is this school telling us, no other photos have ever been published ANYWHERE of students dissecting an organ? C'mon, really? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:29 PST 2011

there is sanity in the world. RT @nursingpins: T1 - fed judge ruled not a privacy violation today - was schools contention #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:30 PST 2011

Listening in briefly tonight. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:34 PST 2011

T1 schools orig press release http://www.jccc.edu/press_releases/2011/gen- lawsuit.html #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:43 PST 2011

Nauseated

!

RT @FrisoRaemaekers: Wow, this is going fast, today! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:45 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN Hi Jennifer! Actually I dont get consents to take photos of pts wounds. We arent required #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:17:51 PST 2011

T1, wife who is not a medical person just said, "why would they get thrown out over that?" #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:18:00 PST 2011

#RNchat T1 If prof okay'd pic being posted was any discipline handed down to the prof? This was just such a ridiculous knee jerk reaction.

Thu Jan 6 18:18:15 PST 2011

This is a trust issue.If they think this is ok, where is the line drawn. I don't trust these people's judgement. #RNChat

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onlinenursing

Aggiern95

EllenRichter

jrobinsonRN

chemosabe

EllenRichter

DonaldWoodARNP

rnchat

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westr

midwifeamy

Geek2Nurse

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Thu Jan 6 18:18:23 PST 2011

In our teaching program, we do the same w/pig hearts, for the valves #RNChat also taking picture for our Dutch social network: Hyves

Thu Jan 6 18:18:27 PST 2011

@CruiseAcademy :) Good point!!! Also, what about the 4 they expelled who didn't post anything? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:18:32 PST 2011

#RNChat I did not even think about have the consent form signed for the taking the picture #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:18:36 PST 2011

@westr Hi there! :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:18:45 PST 2011

@EllenRichter Have had to get consents take pictures of wounds when working in wound care before. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:18:46 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse my interpretation was that they neither got consent or dissent re taking or posting the pix? #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:19:27 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN I agree with you about the teacher. If the student didnt know better, I can understand. But teacher should have known #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:19:46 PST 2011

I remember the days when the placentas were stored in a freezer and sold for 25 cents each to the cosmetic industry. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:19:49 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN I understand that - but the question here is: was the school's response professional? Or reflective of righteous anger? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:19:51 PST 2011

T1 - they had NO social media policy - I questioned them about one - after they closed for a day - http://tinyurl.com/239vcy5 #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:19:56 PST 2011

Yep, lurking, and cause its an :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:20:00 PST 2011

interesting topic. RT @EllenRichter: @westr Hi there!

@rnchat Amy Romano, CNM, delurking because topic is placentas. :) #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:20:24 PST 2011

T1 Nursing student posing w/human placenta is distasteful? Then what about this? http://bit.ly/eCxUS2 (Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor) #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:20:35 PST 2011

T1 SON need to come up with a SM policy. #RNChat #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:20:40 PST 2011

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nursingpins

joyceharrellrn

EllenRichter

CruiseAcademy

EllenRichter

InfusionNurse

dorameulman

midwifeamy

nursingpins

midwifeamy

sarahbethrn

Aggiern95

jrobinsonRN

@EllenRichter Hi Ellen! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:20:47 PST 2011

T1 -much of the blame lies with the instructor #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:20:49 PST 2011

Ok, coming in a little late. What's the topic? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:21:12 PST 2011

@nursingpins This incident just reinforces why every business & facility needs to create social media policy immediately #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:21:13 PST 2011

Maybe I'm missing something- was this part of a lab or in hosp just after a birth? ((sorry). #RNChat #confusedasUsual

Thu Jan 6 18:21:26 PST 2011

@WTOAssociates Hi there! :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:21:35 PST 2011

Placenta and student nurse RT @joyceharrellrn: Ok, coming in a little late. Whats the topic? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:21:47 PST 2011

#RNchat Dora here critical care. Sorry I'm late. I'm catching up, this story has got a lot of attention!

Thu Jan 6 18:21:54 PST 2011

@rnchat how is an SN posing with a placenta different from surgical pictures used as a person's social media avatar? #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:03 PST 2011

T1 - press release after Judge ruled today - http://www.jccc.edu/press_releases/2011/gen-lawsuit-injunction.html #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:04 PST 2011

@rnchat (which I've seen) #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:22 PST 2011

maybe i'm the only one, but i don't think her actions were unprofessional at all #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:23 PST 2011

@EllenRichter @nursingpins I agree that a SM needs to be created for all SON today. #RNChat #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:24 PST 2011

@rnchat 2 many social media breaches these days-they should have known better already.Expulsion may be only way to send a message. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:27 PST 2011

onlinenursing

MedicalNotice

InfusionNurse

pamressler

edinnola1

philbaumann

DonaldWoodARNP

PamelaKline

cjbryant

EllenRichter

nursingpins

onlinenursing

NursingCenter

CruiseAcademy

@RNchat - bad part of this whole thing was it had the feel of neg side of nursing - power plays where the 1s N power R always right #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:33 PST 2011

First time here and I am observing. Writer of Medical Issues #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:46 PST 2011

@chemosabe instructor did

Thu Jan 6 18:22:50 PST 2011

#RNchat

Yes! RT @EllenRichter: @nursingpins Just reinforces why every business & facility needs to create social media policy immediately #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:53 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN @nursingpins which patient? To me the director is the on that needs to be released. Screaming & crying at the students. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:22:57 PST 2011

T1 If nursing schools used expulsion as a pedagogical tool everyday, there'd be 0 nurses. "Serious" is different from "Professional" #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:23:01 PST 2011

Maybe they were preparing their students for life in a hospital. Make one mistake and off with your head. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:23:01 PST 2011

@CyFanRN T1 I agree! They should have taught lessons to both but not expulsion. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:23:06 PST 2011

I'm agree RT @sarahbethrn: maybe im the only one, but i dont think her actions were unprofessional at all #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:23:32 PST 2011

@MedicalNotice Oh boy, welcome! You picked a hot topic chat! :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:23:40 PST 2011

T1 - sad thing - student took a beating on fb after being "dismissed" ---and I hammered them http://www.facebook.com/JCCC411 #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:23:47 PST 2011

@EllenRichter Good point, but they need to be well thought out and not authoritative/punitive - #sm policies #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:23:47 PST 2011

@nursingpins Thanks for all the links Vernon! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:23:55 PST 2011

@EllenRichter totally agree there needs to be sm policy- esp since the younger generations lack common sense sometimes. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:24:04 PST 2011

KSkipperFoster

joyceharrellrn

Aggiern95

rnchat

holisticnurses

TrustMiguel

PamelaKline

onlinenursing

nursingpins

sarahbethrn

joyceharrellrn

cjbryant

midwifeamy

Kat_SN

@sarahbethrn agreed. in a lab excited to learn #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:24:06 PST 2011

So what's the consensus so far on the placenta issue? I didn't see a HIPPA violation. Maybe some bad taste. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:24:10 PST 2011

T1 there are so many other issues occurring in nursing school today #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:24:22 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN Well, there are legal consequences of expulsion too. Can't just make up rules on these things in a vacuum. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:24:27 PST 2011

Hi everyone! Popping in for a bit. Great topics~ #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:24:36 PST 2011

Interesting discussion about #JCCC in #RNchat some support the college and

others

not so much.

Thu Jan 6 18:24:40 PST 2011

@westr @sarahbethrn T1~ My hubby and I where just discussing this #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:24:43 PST 2011

I agree.

@nursingpins You are a total student advocate #RNChat - nursing needs more like you. Thank you!

Thu Jan 6 18:24:49 PST 2011

T1 I don't think there was anything wrong with the photos - but some people are not ready for them #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:07 PST 2011

esteemed MD or giggly nursing student: someone compare FB photo to photo on http://www.mystrokeofinsight.com/ #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:10 PST 2011

I can't get tweetchat to work tonight. Anyother grid I can use? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:24 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn No HIPAA violation; not bad taste for her generation; they share everything on FB #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:24 PST 2011

I've taught with real placentas b4 and my students took pix. I have no problem with them sharing those on FB/Twitter #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:30 PST 2011

Posing with a placenta is a little different than posing with a patient see this as any kind of ethical breech. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:30 PST 2011

not sure how I

@KSkipperFoster @sarahbethrn Intentions good, but as one who gave birth last

asherwat

DonaldWoodARNP

dorameulman

joyceharrellrn

nursingpins

chemosabe

EllenRichter

holisticnurses

philbaumann

InfusionNurse

onlinenursing

joyceharrellrn

philbaumann

Aggiern95

InfusionNurse

year, idea of someone posing with my placenta is creepy #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:39 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn Judge put her back in school. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:42 PST 2011

#RNchat I think it was an honest lack of judgement on the young nurses part & a hugh knee jerk over reaction on the part of her school!

Thu Jan 6 18:25:52 PST 2011

OK, it's working now. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:53 PST 2011

T1 - the school was in no way professional #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:25:59 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse my interpretation from the posted article wa that she said "oh u girls", doesn't imply either way to me #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:26:00 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn TweetGrid #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:26:01 PST 2011

Amy from NY btw. Telehealth Nurse. Can someone rt the initial question for me? Thx. T1 #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:26:09 PST 2011

Let's note: It's easy to lose context in a picture. The SN may have been just happy - not disrespectful. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:26:11 PST 2011

Lots of HCP posts gross pics nurse be fired? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:26:20 PST 2011

difference

is, she's a nursing student. Would a prof

T1 The Placenta Incident: Was expulsion of SN for posting picture of placenta on FB proportionate? See http://bit.ly/fe7zfe #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:26:45 PST 2011

OK. How does everyone feel about judge putting her back in school? I think she was unprofessional, but young #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:26:58 PST 2011

T1 I think nursing schools are going to have to really understand the age we live in. In fact: it's a professional responsibility. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:27:00 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse I think there is an issue of boundaries. As a L&D I would not be posting a placenta picture online. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:27:23 PST 2011

not reason not to go back

school? I think she was unprofessional, but young #RNchat

RT

@joyceharrellrn: OK. judge putting her back in

holisticnurses

CruiseAcademy

joyceharrellrn

FrisoRaemaekers

Aggiern95

jrobinsonRN

CyFanRN

Wanderer_RN

joyceharrellrn

Kat_SN

midwifeamy

Trybarefoot

jrobinsonRN

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Thu Jan 6 18:27:50 PST 2011

@nursingpins T1 Agreed. It may have been a 'weird' photo by mainstream standards or to those who don't work in HC Not unprofessional #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:27:51 PST 2011

So why is this even an issue then? #facepalm Med students do much worse with stuff in lab RT @cmizer17 Lab Not at A Hospital! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:27:56 PST 2011

Yes, I think the SN just got caught up in the moment. I was on her side due to lack of clear guidelines and que from the instructor. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:27:58 PST 2011

Twitter is a public place, FB is more private RT @midwifeamy:

them sharing those on FB/Twitter #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:27:58 PST 2011

no problem with

@InfusionNurse That type of information would shared with my coworkers not on a Social Media Site #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:28:15 PST 2011

Can't have punishments in vaccuum but what does it take to get people to think b4 sharing info that isn't appropriate.Not a new prob #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:28:18 PST 2011

@EllenRichter #rnchat I guarantee the HIPPA police at my clinic would have had a stroke if they saw this even tho it's clearly not a viol.

Thu Jan 6 18:28:25 PST 2011

@JoyceHarrellRN Think it was a good decision to reinstate. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:28:30 PST 2011

@Infusionnurse Right I am glad they let her back. Lesson learned for her, though. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:28:36 PST 2011

I am a 33 year old mature woman, nursing student, and if I got to play with a placenta, I would be all smiles. That's awesome! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:28:45 PST 2011

The woman gave it willingly for teaching purposes. (she had kept it). The students sent her baby a thank you note. :) #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:28:48 PST 2011

So, #RNchat is all about placentas tonite - and #lrnchat is talking about being 'overworked' and strategies!! Great nite!

Thu Jan 6 18:28:49 PST 2011

@FrisoRaemaekers FB can be private but only if the person understands how to use the controls properly. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:28:59 PST 2011

@holisticnurses http://twitter.com/#!/RNchat/status/23198736100360192 #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:29:12 PST 2011

InfusionNurse

nursingpins

joyceharrellrn

sarahbethrn

CruiseAcademy

westr

midwifeamy

DonaldWoodARNP

chemosabe

joyceharrellrn

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TrustMiguel

jrobinsonRN

asherwat

@Aggiern95 difference is recognizing limit #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:29:13 PST 2011

she's

still young and not yet a nurse

T1 one professor at the school voiced disagreement (only voice of reason)on fb - many posts crit the students? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:29:16 PST 2011

@wanderer rn I am glad they let her back in. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:29:16 PST 2011

@nursingpins I like how they said they had a SM policy--when it was dated 2011, after "The Incident" #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:29:21 PST 2011

Exactly. What were HER(or his) consequences for this debaucle? RT @nursingpins: T1 -much of the blame lies with the instructor #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:29:35 PST 2011

Not at that age. RT @cjbryant: I'm agree RT @sarahbethrn: maybe im the only one,

but i dont think her actions were unprofessional

Thu Jan 6 18:29:44 PST 2011

#rnchat

Other than society's unease with placentas, what is the problem with sharing pix? No way to know whose placenta it is. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:04 PST 2011

The student learned. Did the school learn anything? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:06 PST 2011

nah ur not !RT @sarahbethrn: maybe im the only one, but i dont think her actions were unprofessional at all #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:08 PST 2011

The woman gave it willingly. Did she sign a release to allow pics? But then, yes should have stayed in a learning mode, not FB #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:10 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN Education. There's too much teaching-by-anger going on. This is where eating-of-the-young comes from. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:23 PST 2011

her attorney argued #JCCC denied her due process & judge agreed. my understanding is that ethics did not come into play #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:28 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse @Aggiern95 She's graduating in a few month.Is her judgement going to suddenly improve in that time? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:34 PST 2011

@midwifeamy I did wonder if another organ, or a test tube would have created the same hysteria #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:39 PST 2011

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nursingpins

InfusionNurse

joyceharrellrn

chemosabe

jrobinsonRN

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Esme_SageFemme

nursesluck

westr

InfusionNurse

jrobinsonRN

joyceharrellrn

nursefriendly

I had felt like the instructor didn't know what to do, then let the student take the fall.Of course I am outside looking in, #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:55 PST 2011

@sarahbethrn there was MUCH "Sociaganda" on their fb - #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:30:55 PST 2011

sometimes posting on FB/Twitter blurs the boundary between personal /

professional or work life

Thu Jan 6 18:31:29 PST 2011

need

to be more careful #RNchat

@jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse @Aggiern95 I think she will def. think twice about her actions. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:31:31 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN think the ? as raised earlier is that as an RN would she have lost her licensure? #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:31:35 PST 2011

@TrustMiguel Due process does make it different than ethics.But I'm still not impressed with the frivolity of the situation. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:31:36 PST 2011

Wow, well this is quite a stream tonight! moment. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:32:04 PST 2011

We'll

shift the convo just a bit in a

@midwifeamy Exactly, I disagree that SM policy was necessary. Tech evolves so rapidly, ethics policy is enough. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:32:07 PST 2011

#RNchat Look! This placenta was in a woman's body and I can touch it! Never mind that she may have suffered for it! ~tres insensitive!

Thu Jan 6 18:32:10 PST 2011

!!! RT @rnchat: @jrobinsonRN

going on. This is where eating-of-the-young comes from. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:32:23 PST 2011

Education. There's too much teaching-by-anger

@joyceharrellrn @jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse @Aggiern95

will feel or treated when she goes back on Jan 19

Thu Jan 6 18:32:30 PST 2011

#RNchat

wonder how she

@chemosabe Might lose license. Nurses are getting sanctioned all over for posting pictures of pt body parts. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:32:35 PST 2011

@lyall @nursingpins Yes,I saw the pic,and was not offended,But as a nurse,we "get it", while non medical is not going to understand. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:32:37 PST 2011

@dorameulman That Sums it up nicely. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:32:42 PST 2011

IrisTopaz

Aggiern95

KSkipperFoster

midwifeamy

Esme_SageFemme

sarahbethrn

TrustMiguel

rnchat

nursingpins

westr

joyceharrellrn

chemosabe

jrobinsonRN

joyceharrellrn

Karma! RT @Trybarefoot:So, #RNchat is all about placentas tonite-and #lrnchat is talking about being 'overworked' & strategies!! Great nite!

Thu Jan 6 18:32:49 PST 2011

@JoyceHarrellRN @jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse I think the student learned her lesson #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:00 PST 2011

Frivolity or excited to learn? RT @jrobinsonRN: @TrustMiguel Due not impressed with the frivolity of the situation. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:02 PST 2011

@asherwat exactly. In fact, I'm surprised fB didn't delete the pics. Theyve done that 2women who have posted pix of their own on FB #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:04 PST 2011

The RN student did not behave unethically. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:10 PST 2011

I would take and post a picture of a placenta in a lab any day. Would you fire me? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:15 PST 2011

if the lawsuit moves forward, which I think it will, #JCCC will probably push ethics center stage #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:19 PST 2011

T1b The Placenta Incident: Serious versus Responsible. Does nursing confuse being serious with being responsible? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:32 PST 2011

Still hard to believe the school took such drastic measures without ANY policy! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:36 PST 2011

Yup, they goofed! RT @DonaldWoodARNP: The student learned. Did learn anything? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:37 PST 2011

the school

@chemosabe How are you doing tonight? This morning? Whatever it is for you #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:50 PST 2011

:)

@jrobinsonRN but again the conjecture is that this is no longer a body part and was no identifiable to an individual? #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:50 PST 2011

@westr @rnchat Not trying to eat young.Social media is not new.They should know better by now if they are in college. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:33:55 PST 2011

Too bad the SN isn't on here tonight to give her perspective. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:34:11 PST 2011

rnchat

cmizer17

DonaldWoodARNP

Wanderer_RN

nursesluck

nursefriendly

chemosabe

jrobinsonRN

Wanderer_RN

InfusionNurse

EllenRichter

rnchat

nursingpins

InfusionNurse

T1b Follow-up: Anybody can be serious: serious doesn't do anything (leads to anger). Responsibility is about problem-solving. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:34:31 PST 2011

I Wonder If That Particular Teacher Is Even Saying "Yes, I Ok'd The Photos" Or If They R Saying They Didn't Say. That #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:34:36 PST 2011

Tech does evolve rapidly as does medicine. Does that mean that we should just ignore it? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:34:39 PST 2011

Reactive vs proactive? RT @nursingpins: Still hard to believe the school took such drastic measures without ANY policy! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:34:40 PST 2011

#RNchat But certainly it was sensational for JCCC to expel them. They asked was ok to post the pic and teacher said yes. They DID ask.

Thu Jan 6 18:34:42 PST 2011

if it

@InfusionNurse I'm sure a hospital would consider it if she posted it on a public forum and they got wind of it. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:34:43 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn hey Joyce is is lunchtime and I'm doin fine TGIF #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:35:17 PST 2011

@chemosabe Wasn't identifiable but poor judgement can lead to worse infractions.We have to have our pts trust first and foremost. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:35:19 PST 2011

Porb. too scared of ANY social media now! RT @JoyceHarrellRN: Too bad the SN isn't on here tonight to give her perspective. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:35:20 PST 2011

how is this different from taking a pic of a medical cadaver's body part and posting on FB? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:35:21 PST 2011

T1 We all learned a lesson from the student's web experience. Hopefully leaders will take action to prevent more of these errors #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:35:24 PST 2011

@JoyceHarrellRN I actually believe I found her Twitter profile catch her off-guard. Will do so backchannel. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:35:34 PST 2011

but didn't want to

How photos/info is presented in all social media will make the difference with acceptance - must be professional w/wo a policy #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:00 PST 2011

IF they find out RT @nursefriendly: m sure a hospital would consider it if she posted it on a public forum and they got wind of it. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:06 PST 2011

westr

sarahbethrn

Wanderer_RN

holisticnurses

chemosabe

TrustMiguel

joyceharrellrn

EllenRichter

nursefriendly

InfusionNurse

MedicalNotice

jrobinsonRN

joyceharrellrn

cjbryant

Reprimand but not expel. RT @jrobinsonRN @rnchat Social media is not new.They should know better by now if they are in college. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:16 PST 2011

no one died RT @InfusionNurse: how is this different from taking a pic of a medical cadavers body part and posting on FB? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:16 PST 2011

T1, we learned- maybe. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:28 PST 2011

I'm proud of all of the support for the student through Twitter. Once again, makes me feel proud to be a nurse among good company. #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:48 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN wasn't being adversarial and will give u this one - have to have our pts trust first and foremost #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:50 PST 2011

#JCCC publications feature students healthcare learners working on patients as do other #comm_college publications. is it different? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:54 PST 2011

@rnchat @JoyceHarrellRN Wow. It would have been great to have her and see what she had to say.She probably has a gag order, though #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:36:56 PST 2011

T1 As health care professionals we have a duty to show respect & portray a professional demeanor in public incuding via social media #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:37:16 PST 2011

@JoyceHarrellRN #rnchat I think that was absolutely the right call - to reinstate her. She broke new ground, re school policies.

Thu Jan 6 18:37:25 PST 2011

@sarahbethrn medical cadavers are for learning #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:37:37 PST 2011

I agree with

Reprimand but not expel. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:37:55 PST 2011

wasnt

the placenta in this case?

@TrustMiguel Have seen calls for photos w/pts - prof. journals usually require consent from all parties in photos #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:38:00 PST 2011

@holisticnurses I am also proud of the support! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:38:02 PST 2011

i think we have more of a generational issue. 4 GenY, posting on FB is like boomers picking up the phone & calling friends #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:38:04 PST 2011

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onlinenursing

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philbaumann

EllenRichter

jrobinsonRN

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makingsofanurse

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cjbryant

FrisoRaemaekers

Sorry I'm late! Wow, looks like I joined quite a hopping discussion. :-) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:38:15 PST 2011

Rcntly read SM policy by h/c sytem-3 pages long,small font-basicly said "if U say 'anything' about anything anywhere' U will B fired #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:38:19 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse @sarahbethrn Yes, had it been from an actual delivery. Different story, but at this point it was a specimen. #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:38:26 PST 2011

If facebook had a page for student experiences (med/nur) the photos would be much more acceptable (context is key) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:38:39 PST 2011

#RNchat Is it ok, by extension, to post pics of large gaping wounds? Not showing the pt or any other id factor? No, it's not.

Thu Jan 6 18:38:41 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn I thought long and hard about it. Since I couldn't speak w/her, I decided to let it roll. There's always time l8r. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:38:58 PST 2011

@onlinenursing Oh boy, nice policy! They tried to cover all bases, eh? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:03 PST 2011

Do we know what the facility had to say to the college? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:04 PST 2011

@Aggiern95 @InfusionNurse #rnchat Boundaries are one thing, rules outlining those boundaries are another. The rules do not exist at school

Thu Jan 6 18:39:12 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN if placenta was donated, who should give consent? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:18 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse @sarahbethrnThe medical cadavers,we"get them",but the public doesn't.I mean,we can do really gross things & then eat. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:21 PST 2011

I agree that it's a generation issue, but I also think my generation doesn't always know our limits/realize just how public SM is. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:36 PST 2011

T1, wound pics ARE different. The placenta was no longer attached. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:40 PST 2011

@nursesluck CCF posted pic of an ugly wound recently on their FB page. Don't know if they had consent; doubt their FB mgr got fired #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:52 PST 2011

Good attitude in US! RT @JoyceHarrellRN: @holisticnurses I am also proud of the

jrobinsonRN

onlinenursing

nursingpins

nursefriendly

joyceharrellrn

InfusionNurse

edinnola1

sarahbethrn

nursingpins

jrobinsonRN

holisticnurses

philbaumann

joyceharrellrn

cmizer17

support! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:57 PST 2011

Nurses have gotten fired for posting pics of wounds in ER w/o naming names. I don't think this is much different. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:39:59 PST 2011

@EllenRichter yep-they even called anything at work 'trade secrets' -Seriously! I was like- what? We all learn from each other in SM #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:40:03 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN the facility would have no part in it :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:40:09 PST 2011

@EllenRichter @nursingpins #rnchat Yep, and you can bet those policies are being formulated as we speak.

Thu Jan 6 18:40:17 PST 2011

@philbaumann @joyceharrellrn Right. So you found her, too? Maybe someone could privately let her know about our little chat tonight. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:40:22 PST 2011

LOL true RT @joyceharrellrn: @sarahbethrn,but the public doesnt.I mean,we can do really gross things & then eat. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:40:24 PST 2011

@sarahbethrn @nursingpins I still think the director was the unprofessional 1. I discussed this with my RNs @ work. All in favor SN. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:40:48 PST 2011

a wound is on a pt, a placenta is medical waste. it is weird to take a pic, but not WRONG #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:40:55 PST 2011

stream too fast to read:) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:00 PST 2011

@makingsofanurse Ok, I may be old but shouldn't a generation that grew up w/computers have better understanding of what NOT to post #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:01 PST 2011

@makingsofanurse Perhaps b/c we're all STILL learning the fine line between truth and the reality of SM. Lots of room for misinterp. #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:12 PST 2011

*Of course* our obligation is to patient privacy, dignity, safety. But we're also responsible for facing the reality of our times. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:32 PST 2011

I guess there is something wrong with me, but I think way too much was made about it. She was a scapegoat to make a point. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:36 PST 2011

I'm Sure The School Will Hide Behind The Idea Of Unprofessionaliam Which They

Can Say Is Whatever They Deem It 2 B #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:45 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP

Fonz_The_Boss

KSkipperFoster

Wanderer_RN

InfusionNurse

sarasteinmd

nursefriendly

sarahbethrn

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NurseTeeny

joyceharrellrn

cjbryant

chemosabe

NursesNightOut

I agree - getting dizzy at times.RT @nursingpins: stream too fast to read:) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:48 PST 2011

Posting the pic on Facebook for a few hours gets them kicked out of the program? I agree that a social media policy is needed, SMH #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:50 PST 2011

Yes RT @sarahbethrn: a wound is on a pt, a placenta is medical waste. it is weird to take a pic, but not WRONG #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:54 PST 2011

Amen! RT @nursingpins: stream too fast to read:) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:41:58 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN @makingsofanurse

want ur mother to see or read!! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:42:04 PST 2011

dont

post anything on SM sites if you dont

Eavesdropping - fascinating!! A sr nsg student photo'd body parts, put them on the web & expulsion reversed?? #RNChat #HCSM @danamlewis

Thu Jan 6 18:42:12 PST 2011

@DonaldWoodARNP #rnchat Nope, just think they were caught off guard. This was probably the first event of i's kind they dealt with - poorly

Thu Jan 6 18:42:17 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN i still don't have a reason why not to post a pic of a placenta?! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:42:35 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN @makingsofanurse Younger generations trust the relationships made online? Perhaps that's the lesson to be taught. #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:42:44 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN I think our generation actually enjoys how public SM is w/out thinking about the potential consequences. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:42:54 PST 2011

@chemosabe @joyceharrellrn And the yes part? LOL #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:42:59 PST 2011

I think pt of problem is misunderstanding of Soc Med; FB/Twitter not frivolous - its a new paradigm of connecting #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:42:59 PST 2011

@cmizer17 yeh, I wondered if there is more to it than just the post too! #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:42:59 PST 2011

@nursingpins Way too fast

Thu Jan 6 18:42:59 PST 2011

but

a good problem to have. #RNchat

Wanderer_RN

nursesluck

InfusionNurse

rnchat

edinnola1

holisticnurses

cjbryant

jrobinsonRN

Wanderer_RN

cmizer17

NurseTeeny

jrobinsonRN

chemosabe

nursingpins

T1,the school, by over-reacting made this into a bigger issue than it truly was. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:43:12 PST 2011

#RNchat We all know that openly poking fun at pts via their body parts is not acceptable. SNs have to learn limits. We all did at some time.

Thu Jan 6 18:43:20 PST 2011

just dont wear ur school logo

have a reason why not to post a pic of a placenta?! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:43:20 PST 2011

LOL

RT @sarahbethrn: @jrobinsonRN i still dont

@nursingpins :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:43:23 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse @Aggiern95 learning or teaching moment here

missed. Sit her down & say you shouldn't do this because

Thu Jan 6 18:43:30 PST 2011

#rnchat

@EllenRichter appreciate the apostrophe. :) Thank you, lady! Too fast. #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:43:41 PST 2011

!!! RT @holisticnurses: @jrobinsonRN @makingsofanurse Younger generations trust relationships made online? Perhaps thats the lesson #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:43:50 PST 2011

@NurseTeeny Must be.Have family members that scare me to death by what they post on FB. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:43:59 PST 2011

@SarahBethRN because there is no real reason NOT to. Poor taste doesn't count! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:44:12 PST 2011

I Get Sick & Tired Of The "We Need 2 Represent" For All Nurses Out There! I Don't Feel Less Of a Nurse bc Of Social Media! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:44:13 PST 2011

@SarahBethRN I don't think everyone thinks of placentas as simply "medical waste". #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:44:32 PST 2011

I would be angry if it were me.But when I think of the repercussions, I just can't blame the school for being heavyhanded quickly. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:44:49 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn the bit of ur orig post i deleted to make room ROFL #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:44:51 PST 2011

fb is no longer just for fun and games - acceptance will follow - just have to be careful and not get to far ahead of the acceptance #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:44:54 PST 2011

nursesluck

sarahbethrn

joyceharrellrn

makingsofanurse

joyceharrellrn

philbaumann

nursingpins

InfusionNurse

EllenRichter

cmizer17

NurseTeeny

chemosabe

TrustMiguel

joyceharrellrn

@cjbryant #RNchat but did they include the face of a grinning nurse touching the wound pics? That's what's distasteful in this case.

Thu Jan 6 18:45:08 PST 2011

hospitals do RT @NurseTeeny: @SarahBethRN I dont think everyone thinks of placentas as simply "medical waste". #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:45:26 PST 2011

@chemosabe @joyceharrellrn ROFL

Thu Jan 6 18:45:27 PST 2011

:) #RNChat

I think the instructor REALLY dropped the ball on this one. Where is her accountability in all this? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:45:36 PST 2011

@nursesluck @cjbryant But, we really don't know her intent in the smiling. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:45:56 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn Agree - I just had to think about the proper use of social media in this case. Ironic, huh? ;) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:46:19 PST 2011

again - I think context is important for acceptance - nothing but toonland posts - then a placenta photo raises eyebrows #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:46:37 PST 2011

The other 3 student nurses were also reinstated

when they go back

Thu Jan 6 18:46:40 PST 2011

#RNchat

how

do u think they will be treated

Agree!! RT @makingsofanurse I think the instructor REALLY dropped the ball on this. Where is her accountability in all this? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:46:54 PST 2011

@chemosabe Possibly I Think We R Hearing The Students side Of It, But I Would B VERY Skeptical Of What The School Says 2! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:47:14 PST 2011

@SarahBethRN But that's prioritizing our biomedical beliefs above those of others, who may have truly been offended by such a photo #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:47:18 PST 2011

@InfusionNurse heroes by their peers enemies by the faculty! probably #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:47:26 PST 2011

@EricStoller @RNchat #JCCC Student nurse speaks http://bit.ly/fi80Sv #RNchat #sachat

Thu Jan 6 18:47:29 PST 2011

well, kinda

@EllenRichter @makingsofanurse Instructor. I'm sorry, I think she was just saving

her a**, and let the SN take the fall

Thu Jan 6 18:47:44 PST 2011

#RNChat

rnchat

CyFanRN

InfusionNurse

chemosabe

dorameulman

nursingpins

joyceharrellrn

rnchat

onlinenursing

cjbryant

InfusionNurse

holisticnurses

chemosabe

rnchat

Well, The Placenta Incident sure is packed with a lot of issues. Great discussion! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:48:19 PST 2011

#RNchat I just wonder how many similar type pix are posted on SM each day that don't turn into an issue

Thu Jan 6 18:48:20 PST 2011

would not be a comfy situation RT @chemosabe: heroes by their peers enemies by the faculty! probably #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:48:25 PST 2011

placenta is part of the being in oz aborigines. buried in the ground on which we are born to maintain the link to the land, home. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:48:32 PST 2011

#RNchat T1 this is what's wrong with nursing. We get so bent out of shape about storms in a teacup that we miss what's important for nurses

Thu Jan 6 18:48:40 PST 2011

each nursing school could have a page for stu to post photos that do not violate privacy - but are ahead of the curve - more accep #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:48:40 PST 2011

EVERYTHING that happens in clinical falls on the instructor.If I were the instructor, I would have taken the blame. Honestly. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:48:44 PST 2011

OK - let's shift to a final section of this #RNchat. See next tweet.

Thu Jan 6 18:48:51 PST 2011

As an instructor would have allowed the pictures in lab & probably taken some myself it - FB posting, I am still not sure #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:48:54 PST 2011

My guess - alot RT @CyFanRN: #RNchat I wonder how many similar type pix are

posted on SM each day that dont turn into an issue

Thu Jan 6 18:49:07 PST 2011

#rnchat

Think this is the 2nd SM related issue involving a stud nurse - dismissed then

reinstated

#RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:49:21 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn Good point! An opportunity for an open discussion turned into "fear". We all wouldn't have heard of it otherwise. #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:49:39 PST 2011

@dorameulman yep coming back to the eating our young of one of the prev chats #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:49:45 PST 2011

T1c Nursing Education: Does nursing education *have* to be so dramatic? What's best way to instill values w/o anger? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:50:24 PST 2011

NurseTeeny

sarahbethrn

FrisoRaemaekers

holisticnurses

Trybarefoot

CruiseAcademy

holisticnurses

Wanderer_RN

Aggiern95

midwifeamy

joyceharrellrn

onlinenursing

chemosabe

PamelaKline

edinnola1

From my understanding of the article, the girls told her they wanted to post the pic online? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:50:26 PST 2011

Case in point. Nurses eat their young. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:50:28 PST 2011

Agree! RT @jrobinsonRN: RT @dorameulman

about storms in a teacup,we miss whats important #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:50:36 PST 2011

We get so bent out of shape

The bigger lesson is lack of communication among health care professionals. Isn't that the underlying issue here. TALK to student. #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:50:43 PST 2011

Why is it I only ever RNs use that phrase "eating our young"? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:50:50 PST 2011

all nurses in general need to be mindful of SM-many devices now post ur location, ppl check in to work on foursquare & gab about pts #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:03 PST 2011

@rnchat Communication! If you don't understand, then clarify. Simple as that. #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:25 PST 2011

T1c: education does not have to done with anger - if we are proactive rather than reactive. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:27 PST 2011

T1c There is a time & place for being "dramatic" to get a point across in education #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:29 PST 2011

People feel differently about placentas than they do about kidneys, etc. It's a life- giving organ that only a woman can grow #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:30 PST 2011

OK. Drama in Nsg school.I will vent.I think Nsg School has become about the % passing the Nclex, and less about the growth of SN #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:32 PST 2011

T1c - Nursing ed needs to model respect, communicate, and make school a 'safe' place to learn/question/ find teachable moments #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:39 PST 2011

@holisticnurses ew talking to students

Thu Jan 6 18:51:40 PST 2011

jk :) #rnchat

@rnchat T1C~ to lead by example. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:44 PST 2011

@joyceharrellrn @EllenRichter @makingsofanurse "oh you girls". Me: is that a yes

or no. Yes ok. Thanks. No. Okay I wont post pic. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:49 PST 2011

nursesluck

nursingpins

jrobinsonRN

Aggiern95

Preparing4Birth

Wanderer_RN

Esme_SageFemme

holisticnurses

lyall

CruiseAcademy

midwifeamy

Trybarefoot

onlinenursing

holisticnurses

#RNchat No one knows how that placenta came to be on the table. What the woman went thru to donate it. It's not casual fun. Smile silly.

Thu Jan 6 18:51:51 PST 2011

many nursing schools were following the fb page - this will cert make the ones w/o

a policy take notice #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:51:56 PST 2011

@Trybarefoot Nurses rarely get a lunch break - we have to eat our young or we'd be hungry :) #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:01 PST 2011

@RNchat T1c I believe that the school went too far in this case #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:01 PST 2011

@midwifeamy I DIG a placenta - now that I have my own office fridge - i can take them home when a mother is not encapsualting #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:03 PST 2011

Drama is one thing, this wasn't. RT @Aggiern95: T1c There is a time & place for being "dramatic" to get a point across in education #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:06 PST 2011

T1c Part of making RN education "safer" has got to be shifting some of the crazy power relationships btwn RNs & SNs #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:06 PST 2011

Yeah, what's that? :) RT @chemosabe: @holisticnurses ew talking to students :) #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:09 PST 2011

#RNChat Placentas are

Thu Jan 6 18:52:10 PST 2011

awesome.

jk

Cont- many of the blog writers used to keep it private- fake name & no location, yet they let twitter show u where are at any moment #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:16 PST 2011

Maybe that's why the student was smiling in the pic. Not bc she wasn't "serious" or "responsible" #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:23 PST 2011

is THAT the origin? RT @jrobinsonRN: @Trybarefoot Nurses rarely get a lunch

break - we have to eat our young or we'd be hungry :) #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:52:39 PST 2011

@chemosabe ROFL!!!! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:53:13 PST 2011

Hey guys! Gotta leave the chat. It's been fun. Hope to follow some new nurses. Bye

DonaldWoodARNP

CruiseAcademy

Esme_SageFemme

makingsofanurse

InfusionNurse

rnchat

sarahbethrn

InfusionNurse

rnchat

NursingCenter

TrustMiguel

jrobinsonRN

joyceharrellrn

jrobinsonRN

bye. Thanks, all! #RNCHat

Thu Jan 6 18:53:15 PST 2011

Eyes heavy

interesting session. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:53:22 PST 2011

TweetChat

turning into a blur. Good night all, very enjoyable and

They are teetering on a fine line in many ways w/locations. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:53:24 PST 2011

ie

those who are careless

With more adult learners & 2nd degree students. Teaching "down" should no longer be acceptable. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:53:26 PST 2011

What exactly do we mean by "drama"? I saw us create a lot of our own drama as

SNs

the

culture of self-destruction starts early #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:53:33 PST 2011

@holisticnurses bye Amy! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:53:43 PST 2011

@DonaldWoodARNP Good night! Cheers! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:53:52 PST 2011

t1c: the avg. age of a nursing instructor 55. the avg. age of a floor RN 50 connection to anger in teaching? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:54:00 PST 2011

any

Arent placentas used to make skin products? :) RT @joyceharrellrn: RT @holisticnurses: RT @lyall: Placentas are awesome. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:54:28 PST 2011

@holisticnurses Thanks for stopping in, Amy. Have a good night. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:54:30 PST 2011

@holisticnurses Bye ~ have a good night! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:54:32 PST 2011

Read the #JCCC student nurse's full complaint http://bit.ly/gAZPqb #sachat #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:54:32 PST 2011

@Esme_SageFemme I agree - no teaching down.Thus these professional students should not have to be told what is appropriate. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:54:35 PST 2011

Hi @infusionnurse Hope you are having a great night! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:54:55 PST 2011

@sarahbethrn Sorry, not following train of thought relating age to anger. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:55:02 PST 2011

Esme_SageFemme

sarahbethrn

rnchat

cmizer17

FrisoRaemaekers

nursingpins

InfusionNurse

edinnola1

EllenRichter

jrobinsonRN

onlinenursing

Esme_SageFemme

cmizer17

CdrHBiscuitIII

I had convo c RN faculty last week where they described 2nd degree students as "arrogant" b/c they question processes. Shakes head. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:55:08 PST 2011

generational differences? RT @jrobinsonRN: @sarahbethrn Sorry, not following train of thought relating age to anger. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:55:33 PST 2011

@makingsofanurse I couldn't think of a more precise word ;) Just this: not being overly serious. Focus on solving & teaching. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:55:42 PST 2011

Like When Christina Aguilera Did The Sketchers Ad in A Nursing Uniform, I Never Once Thought This Makes Me Less Prof! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:55:48 PST 2011

Really? Is it?! where's the rest? RT @SarahBethRN: t1c: the avg. age of a nursing

instructor 55. the avg. age of a floor RN 50

Thu Jan 6 18:56:00 PST 2011

#RNchat

The placenta incident was good in that it raised awareness on many levels for many people - caused many to think about sm activity #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:56:14 PST 2011

u too, missed u last nite, hope hubby is better! RT @joyceharrellrn: Hope you are having a great night! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:56:18 PST 2011

What kinda experience is she going to get now. I wouldn't be surprised if she "drops out" before May. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:56:20 PST 2011

T1c Nursing students dont need to be led by the hand thru social media but need to learn to act safely & wisely if representing RNs #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:56:24 PST 2011

@Esme_SageFemme ???Nurse's must always question to ensure safety - SN's shouldn't be different.Not impressed w/peeps u spoke with #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:56:30 PST 2011

@Esme_SageFemme Wow - I hate to hear that. It happens all to often. These SN's will be our peers a short time #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:56:30 PST 2011

I'd rather have a smartass RN who thinks, than a brainwashed RN who is afraid to speak up when something is wrong. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:56:46 PST 2011

I Have a Picture Of a Placenta On My BB Right Now, Who's To Say I Didn't Take It During Clinicals! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:57:05 PST 2011

And very nutritious. RT @Lyall: Placentas are awesome. #RNCHAT

Thu Jan 6 18:57:07 PST 2011

sarahbethrn

Esme_SageFemme

FinnishNurse

InfusionNurse

nursingpins

Wanderer_RN

PamelaKline

InfusionNurse

jrobinsonRN

makingsofanurse

sarahbethrn

chemosabe

philbaumann

jrobinsonRN

#goplacenta #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:57:28 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN The faculty saw questions as a challenge to their authority. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:57:35 PST 2011

Hi from Finland! If placenta photos are so wrong, what about putting anonymous x- ray images to the Web? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:57:41 PST 2011

doesnt = anger #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:57:44 PST 2011

RT

@sarahbethrn: generational differences? @jrobinsonRN:

you can post just about anything (without violations) if done right and in the right context. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:57:46 PST 2011

Was going to say that

nutritious. RT @Lyall: Placentas are awesome. #RNCHAT

Thu Jan 6 18:57:51 PST 2011

thought

I would get expelled. RT @CdrHBiscuitIII: And very

@EllenRichter ~ I agree! #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 18:58:14 PST 2011

true RT @nursingpins: you can post just about anything (without violations) if done right and in the right context. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:58:22 PST 2011

@Esme_SageFemme Agree - see too many RNs not speak up - can be detrimental to all. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:58:25 PST 2011

I think taking the students seriously goes a long way. Often valid concerns go ignored, which just feeds the faculty-student rift #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:58:34 PST 2011

maybe not anger, but inferiority RT @InfusionNurse: doesnt = anger @sarahbethrn: generational differences? @jrobinsonRN: #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:58:46 PST 2011

RT

whoa, got pulled away to do some NotPublic stuff

Thu Jan 6 18:58:51 PST 2011

missed a million posts

#rnchat

Generation difference isn't related to anger. However, there are perhaps cultural differences: diff cult get angry about diff things #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:59:01 PST 2011

@FinnishNurse Think it is the context of the photos. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:59:07 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers

nursingpins

InfusionNurse

rnchat

EllenRichter

jrobinsonRN

Aggiern95

edinnola1

Wanderer_RN

joyceharrellrn

nursingpins

chemosabe

joyceharrellrn

InfusionNurse

Good question from overseas? RT @FinnishNurse: Hi from Finland! putting anonymous x-ray images to the Web? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 18:59:11 PST 2011

what about

many complaints about the placenta photo was that the student was smiling? "goolish grin" etc - all must be considered with posts #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 18:59:53 PST 2011

LOL

missed a million posts

Thu Jan 6 19:00:00 PST 2011

RT @chemosabe: whoa, got pulled away to do some NotPublic stuff

#RNchat

Wow - this has been a fffast hour! Lots of diverse views - opposing views always most productive. A few more minutes & then wrap-up. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:00:04 PST 2011

@FrisoRaemaekers Good point. But anonymous xray isnt with a smiling radiologist pointing to a cancer. Its just an xray, not a person #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:00:12 PST 2011

@sarahbethrn @InfusionNurse OK, so who would be feeling inferior because of their age? Guess I'm still clueless #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:00:18 PST 2011

We need to look at the faculty at SON. A lot of them have the clinical experience but not how to teach. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:00:22 PST 2011

@EllenRichter touche'. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 19:00:23 PST 2011

Or other way. RT @Aggiern95: We need to look at the faculty at SON. A lot of them have the clinical experience but not how to teach. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:01:04 PST 2011

@MedicalNotice Hey girl, hoping I can be more active on SM tomorrow. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:01:07 PST 2011

I'm looking forward to reading this transcript - much more needs to be said by all on this topic. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:01:34 PST 2011

that is a whole nother chat the generation thing, same as the eating young thing #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 19:01:41 PST 2011

@jrobinsonRN @sarahbethrn @InfusionNurse i think the instructor would be intimidated by the older student that questions. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:02:07 PST 2011

so agree

as the eating young thing

Thu Jan 6 19:02:08 PST 2011

RT

@chemosabe: that is a whole nother chat the generation thing, same

#RNchat

cmizer17

sarahbethrn

Wanderer_RN

FrisoRaemaekers

EllenRichter

onlinenursing

chemosabe

InfusionNurse

jrobinsonRN

sarahbethrn

onlinenursing

rnchat

Wanderer_RN

joyceharrellrn

Esme_SageFemme

Is This Yours? See Its Ridiculous To Kick Anyone Out Of School 4 Something Like This! #RNChat http://plixi.com/p/68327913

Thu Jan 6 19:02:13 PST 2011

actions are possibly age-ist if one gen doesn't understand the other--goes both ways as well RT @jrobinsonRN:Guess Im still clueless #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:02:15 PST 2011

Had an instructor who had not been working clinically for years, good teacher, wasn't able to hack it clinically-wise. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:02:21 PST 2011

@FinnishNurse @EllenRichter I think an x-ray is more inappropriate than an placenta #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:02:50 PST 2011

Great discussion tonight! Gosh, adrenalin-pumped! Appreciate everyone's opinions. We have lots to do with social media policywriting #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:02:59 PST 2011

@Aggiern95 Doctor's dont hv teaching exp,neither do Rad techs,PT,pharmasists who teach N their professions-Should nurses B different #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:03:03 PST 2011

@Wanderer_RN thats y teachers teach and clinicians devliver care! #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 19:03:24 PST 2011

sure missed lots of tweets RT @nursingpins: Im looking forward to reading this transcript - much more needs to be said by all #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:03:33 PST 2011

@chemosabe I love nursing students, love to teach. But expect some degree of professionalism- pt's lives are in their hands. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:03:45 PST 2011

#goplacenta Thanks everyone, good night! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:03:46 PST 2011

@JoyceHarrellRN Excellent point! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:03:56 PST 2011

Well, @EllenRichter got us on to a heck of a topic tonight with her suggestion. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:04:05 PST 2011

@chemosabe But in order to teach, they need to know current info/trends. This one didn't. #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 19:04:15 PST 2011

Question, so, what institutions would be upset with us as their employees for being on here 2nite expressing our opinions? #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:04:20 PST 2011

This whole being intimated by students is interesting. Why do instructors feels this

rnchat

onlinenursing

tealou

PamelaKline

EllenRichter

Aggiern95

onlinenursing

Wanderer_RN

PamelaKline

jrobinsonRN

lyall

InfusionNurse

MedicalNotice

EllenRichter

way? Insecurity? Hierarchy? #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:04:27 PST 2011

OK, friends! Let's bring it on home. I'll have some announcements, but let's hear your parting thoughts. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:04:36 PST 2011

@RNchat @EllenRichter ROCKS! Nurses Rock for that matter. This has been a most excellent chat!!!! Thank you all! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:04:44 PST 2011

just not what they're attached to. ;) “@Lyall: #RNChat Placentas are

Thu Jan 6 19:04:53 PST 2011

@sarahbethrn good night!! #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 19:04:54 PST 2011

awesome.”

@rnchat I had a strange feeling this topic would elicit some emotions :) #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:05:04 PST 2011

@onlinenursing The faculty need to be able to manage their classrooms and bring real world experience to their students. #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:05:07 PST 2011

@Aggiern95 AMEN! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:05:23 PST 2011

@JoyceHarrellRN I thing mine might be upset, hence why I'm "shrouded" and don't have location on! #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:05:29 PST 2011

@rnchat @EllenRichter ~ Of COURSE, Ellen's 1 smart chick! #rnchat

Thu Jan 6 19:05:33 PST 2011

@sarahbethrn Don't care how old someone is - they need to do their job,take care of pts & each other.Tired of the fighting in nrsng. #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:05:43 PST 2011

#RNChat I cook student nurses in a crock pot. Slow cooking ensures they'll be tender even if you can only get a mature age student.

Thu Jan 6 19:05:51 PST 2011

@rnchat @philbaumann #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:05:56 PST 2011

great

chat, glad to be here tonite

thanks

so much!

@JoyceHarrellRN Good Question #RNChat

Thu Jan 6 19:06:07 PST 2011

@onlinenursing Thanks! You rock to, sister! Its always a pleasure to hang out here with you! #RNchat

Thu Jan 6 19:06:13 PST 2011

pamressler

NursingCenter

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