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rnchat Just a few minutes until "The Placenta Incident" on #RNchat 9pm Eastern!
Thu Jan 6 17:50:02 PST 2011

pamressler Chance for school to draft SM policy RT @RNchat: Judge orders reinstatement for
student who posted placenta photo #RNchat http://ow.ly/3zHhk
Thu Jan 6 17:51:19 PST 2011

rnchat Welcome to #RNchat everyone! Happy New Year! We'll open for business soon,
but first introduce yourselves!
Thu Jan 6 18:00:05 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers Friso from Holland Emergency Nurse & Chairman of the Nursing Advisory Council
@HagaZiekenhuis *Yes, it 3 o'clock at night overhere!* #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:00:33 PST 2011

rnchat @FrisoRaemaekers Good morning! ;) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:01:40 PST 2011

onlinenursing Hey Terri here from Missouri-NP,Nurse, Nurse educator- it is NOT 3am where I live
- I am impressed @FrisoRaemaekers #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:01:46 PST 2011

SteveCarran Hello, my name is Steve from @ClearMedical. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:01:47 PST 2011

asherwat Strategic marketing consultant, Norfolk VA. New, but enthusiatic tweet chatter
#rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:02:04 PST 2011

sarahbethrn SarahBeth, nurse- advanced heart failure. i blog at http://sarahbethrn.com #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:02:11 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Tom a cardiac nurse from Oregon. #RNchat Will try to keep up as I make dinner!
Thu Jan 6 18:02:35 PST 2011
sarahbethrn @asherwat good too see you here! :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:02:58 PST 2011

NursingCenter Hi everyone! Lisa from PA here...nurse, NP, clinical editor #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:02:58 PST 2011

nursingpins Hi all - vernon in New Orleans - critical care #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:02:59 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP Don The Intelligent Nurse (coming out this month!) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:03:04 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers Thanks! Had a nightshift two days ago, so it will be easy tonight #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:03:18 PST 2011

philbaumann Phil here - started #RNchat and hoping you enjoy tonight's chat. Happy new year!
Thu Jan 6 18:03:34 PST 2011

KSkipperFoster Hi - Kari - hlthcare strategy consultnt - Va Beach, VA #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:04:02 PST 2011

cjbryant Brand strategist and innovation catalyst from Norfolk, VA #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:04:02 PST 2011

EllenRichter Hi folks! Ellen here! Once again, I just made it to chat by seconds! Glad to be home!
Critical care RN, Legal nurse consultant #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:04:13 PST 2011

InfusionNurse Howdy! Cora here, infusion nurse from Indy...lurking tonight...happy new yer to all!!
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:04:27 PST 2011

Trybarefoot Gerard in Nova Scotia. Health educator/health care consultant/trainer/facilitator - all
that! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:04:37 PST 2011

EllenRichter Wow, nice turnout!! Seems like everyone came by! :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:04:57 PST 2011

chemosabe Hey y'all. Glen downunda, just sitting down to lunch at work. Will prob just lurk on
this one mostly. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:05:05 PST 2011

pamressler Hi All -- Pam from MA Stress Management consultant and nurse educator #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:05:17 PST 2011

Trybarefoot Grey's Anatomy is on - so I'm gonna chat with #RNchat colleagues instead! :)
Thu Jan 6 18:05:22 PST 2011
InfusionNurse wanted to see the placenta movie!!! LOL..RT @EllenRichter: Wow, nice turnout!!
Seems like everyone came by! :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:05:33 PST 2011

sarahbethrn @EllenRichter everyone brought a friend like we decided last week! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:05:36 PST 2011

rnchat OK, we'll start in a moment. We'll have one topic, which we'll break up into smaller
sections. See next tweet. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:05:48 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP Ellen, we all want to hear Phil's ideas about the movie. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:05:56 PST 2011

rnchat T1 The Placenta Incident: Was expulsion of SN for posting picture of placenta on
FB proportionate? See http://bit.ly/fe7zfe #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:06:24 PST 2011

EllenRichter LOL @ everyone's comments! Great spirits tonight! :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:06:28 PST 2011

onlinenursing @InfusionNurse you are cracking me up! I wanted to see the epic movie too
#RNChat (were we supposed to bring a friend @Ellenrichter ?)
Thu Jan 6 18:06:29 PST 2011

onlinenursing @Trybarefoot Good choice Grey's is an abomination to the nursing and health care
professions #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:06:55 PST 2011

PamelaKline Hello everyone. Pam Kline a legal nurse consultant from snowy MI! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:07:09 PST 2011

EllenRichter @onlinenursing Well last week I mentioned that we can grow in 2011 if everyone
brings a friend :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:07:23 PST 2011

Trybarefoot Tell my WIFE THAT! RT @onlinenursing: @Trybarefoot Good choice Grey's is an
abomination to the nursing and health care professions #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:07:30 PST 2011

CyFanRN @RNchat Hey! Amy...clinical research RN w/ cardiac background. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:07:45 PST 2011

healthgist http://j.mp/9ZzB0z @EdBennett Hi everyone - I'm Ed and I'm not a nurse. I'm
going to lurk tonight... #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:07:59 PST 2011

EdBennett Hi everyone - I'm Ed and I'm not a nurse. I'm going to lurk tonight... #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:07:59 PST 2011

Did anyone hear anything about the nursing instructor that allowed the photos?
DonaldWoodARNP #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:08:01 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN Want to say it was too much but this problem is happening too often and they were
trying to send a message to make it stop fast #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:08:16 PST 2011

EllenRichter @PamelaKline A fellow JERK :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:08:22 PST 2011

philbaumann I figured "The Placenta Incident" kinda captured the craziness of it all #RNchat Plus
it sounds epic. :)
Thu Jan 6 18:08:31 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 No - was a bad mistake for the school - and the student. "Lesson Hard Learned"
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:08:53 PST 2011

onlinenursing @EllenRichter Awesome!!! I will bring one next time #RNChat - re: friend (perhaps
@trybarefoot 's wife to pull her away from bad TV)
Thu Jan 6 18:08:56 PST 2011

Trybarefoot Awesome - I'm on #RNchat too - juggling! RT @gminks: @Trybarefoot we just
started, well we're only on Q2 #lrnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:08:59 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy Amanda from NJ here... Community/MH & Cont Ed Cruises #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:09:02 PST 2011

PamelaKline Hey Ellen and Jennifer :) #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:09:10 PST 2011

rnchat @EdBennett Hi Ed, NRN ;) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:09:12 PST 2011

EllenRichter @onlinenursing Haha :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:09:29 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Better idea! RT @Trybarefoot: Grey's Anatomy is on - so I'm gonna chat with
#RNchat colleagues instead! :)
Thu Jan 6 18:09:32 PST 2011

Trybarefoot Good luck RT @onlinenursing: Awesome!!! I will bring one next time #RNChat
(perhaps @trybarefoot 's wife to pull her away from bad TV)
Thu Jan 6 18:09:46 PST 2011

sarahbethrn T1 The punishment did not fit the "crime", I'm still confused. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:09:52 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @PamelaKline Hey chick! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:10:03 PST 2011
EllenRichter @EdBennett Nice having you lurk! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:10:14 PST 2011

rnchat T1a So there's many angles here of course. Let's assume SN was in the "wrong". Is
expulsion a professional response? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:10:23 PST 2011

onlinenursing T1 - Punishment did not fit the so-called crime as far as I can tell? Don't we usually
give peeps warnings 1st, then re-educate? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:10:34 PST 2011

Trybarefoot TI Not up on the 'placenta incident' - sorry - details?? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:10:44 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 if a good social media policy had been in place - this story would have a
different ending. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:11:06 PST 2011

MindyGlaze non RN, interested in the convo, following along. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:11:15 PST 2011

cjbryant Would the punishment had been as severe if she put the picture in a student
newsletter or on the bulletin board? #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:11:18 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN T1, think they took a small situation and let it blow up out of control. Poor taste?
Yes. Big issue? Not really... #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:11:21 PST 2011

SteveCarran @SarahBethRN T1 I agree, I think they wanted to make an example out of her to
prevent it from happening again. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:11:22 PST 2011

cmizer17 I Think The Kids. Being Kicked Out For The. Placenta Photos Is Ridiculous!
#RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:11:34 PST 2011

InfusionNurse i agree...RT @nursingpins: T1 if a good social media policy had been in place - this
story would have a different ending. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:11:42 PST 2011

sarahbethrn t1a assuming she was wrong, it seems JCCC considered "teaching" to be
expulsion. "teachable moment" #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:12:01 PST 2011

EllenRichter T1 I agree with @onlinenursing that she needed to learn first, & get some
disciplinary action but not what she got #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:12:05 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP They could have made the example way short of expulsion. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:12:14 PST 2011
pamressler I agree the @nursingpins. It shows that we need think about SM guidelines for
SONs #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:12:24 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN They violated privacy - should have known better by now.This could cost hospital
$$$$$ in fines for privacy violation. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:12:27 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 too bad it took a fed judge to get her back in school #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:12:29 PST 2011

onlinenursing @nursingpins Yes need good policies,afraid now that like an institution I know, now
very restrictive SM policies will erupt all over #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:12:35 PST 2011

nursingpins @jrobinsonRN there was no privacy violation #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:13:10 PST 2011

sarahbethrn No, They would have never known RT @cjbryant: Would the punishment had been
as severe if she put the picture on the bulletin board? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:13:22 PST 2011

rnchat T1 There's a bit more detail on the story here for you to check out l8r
http://bit.ly/eeS70H #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:13:42 PST 2011

EllenRichter @cjbryant No it wouldnt have. But the web is very public & the school needs
enrollment so they gave a powerful public response #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:13:45 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN T1, I don't believe they violated privacy - no info was displayed/disclosed. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:13:54 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP Many organizations consider over reaction to be the best kind of reaction. They
should learn to be proactive. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:13:57 PST 2011

KSkipperFoster agree w @nursingpins - no identifying the placenta #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:13:59 PST 2011

nursesluck #RNchat Granted that the SNs need to learn sensitivity and that most of what we do
isn't "table talk", still it was wrong to expel them.
Thu Jan 6 18:14:00 PST 2011

InfusionNurse got permission from clin instructor to post pic RT @nursingpins: @jrobinsonRN
there was no privacy violation #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:14:03 PST 2011

Aggiern95 + 1 RT @nursingpins T1 if a good social media policy had been in place - this story
would have a different ending. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:14:03 PST 2011
jrobinsonRN @nursingpins Posting pictures of any part of a patient violates privacy if pt did not
sign consent. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:14:20 PST 2011

rnchat @jrobinsonRN Do we know for a fact that they violated privacy? Do you have a
link? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:14:40 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 the students case http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/12/28/Placenta.pdf
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:14:50 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse @nursingpins If an instructor ok'd it, I'm not impressed with the
judgement of that instructor. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:14:57 PST 2011

onlinenursing @SarahBethRN agree - her teachers would have probably loved to see her so
excited Re:posting pic on bulletin board in the building #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:15:06 PST 2011

EllenRichter T1 It was a placenta! What privacy?? HIPPA? Come now. It was just distasteful for a
young nurse to post it on the web. Period #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:15:07 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy I don't think she should have been kicked out. Distasteful? Maybe? But she looked
excited to dissect the organ. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:15:11 PST 2011

nursingpins @jrobinsonRN wrong #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:15:11 PST 2011

NursingCenter @EllenRichter Thanks Ellen ~ hadn't thought about that. JCCC definitely has gotten
a lot of press. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:15:41 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers Wow, this is going fast, today! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:15:54 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @rnchat We have to get consents to take pictures of wounds for documentation,
how is this different? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:16:07 PST 2011

JoeCascio @jrobinsonRN What about clinical trials? As long as info is anonymized, how is
anyone hurt? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:16:12 PST 2011

EllenRichter @CruiseAcademy I agree with you. I think she was just young & foolish but we
really do need to create policies as a result of it #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:16:13 PST 2011

sarahbethrn Placentas are considered medical waste. How is that private? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:16:21 PST 2011

Trybarefoot Thx! RT @RNchat: T1 There's a bit more detail on the story here for you to check
out l8r http://bit.ly/eeS70H #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:16:36 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 - fed judge ruled not a privacy violation today - was schools contention #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:16:52 PST 2011

cjbryant @EllenRichter I don't think intent was to "post on the web"; I think she was sharing
her excitement w/friends & family #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:06 PST 2011

JoeCascio @EllenRichter I agree.. poor judgment perhaps, but no one's privacy was violated.
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:09 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @jrobinsonRN RT @sarahbethrn: Placentas are considered medical waste. How is
that private? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:10 PST 2011

onlinenursing @CruiseAcademy I get excited to dissect parts too. It is very cool! #RNChat - (also
what about med waste status? like Blood/excrement)
Thu Jan 6 18:17:24 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy So, is this school telling us, no other photos have ever been published
ANYWHERE of students dissecting an organ? C'mon, really? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:29 PST 2011

sarahbethrn there is sanity in the world. RT @nursingpins: T1 - fed judge ruled not a privacy
violation today - was schools contention #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:30 PST 2011

SusanCarr Listening in briefly tonight. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:34 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 schools orig press release http://www.jccc.edu/press_releases/2011/gen-
lawsuit.html #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:43 PST 2011

Trybarefoot Nauseated........! RT @FrisoRaemaekers: Wow, this is going fast, today! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:45 PST 2011

EllenRichter @jrobinsonRN Hi Jennifer! Actually I dont get consents to take photos of pts
wounds. We arent required #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:17:51 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN T1, wife who is not a medical person just said, "why would they get thrown out over
that?" #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:18:00 PST 2011

CyFanRN #RNchat T1 If prof okay'd pic being posted was any discipline handed down to the
prof? This was just such a ridiculous knee jerk reaction.
Thu Jan 6 18:18:15 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN This is a trust issue.If they think this is ok, where is the line drawn. I don't trust these
people's judgement. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:18:23 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers In our teaching program, we do the same w/pig hearts, for the valves #RNChat also
taking picture for our Dutch social network: Hyves
Thu Jan 6 18:18:27 PST 2011

onlinenursing @CruiseAcademy :) Good point!!! Also, what about the 4 they expelled who didn't
post anything? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:18:32 PST 2011

Aggiern95 #RNChat I did not even think about have the consent form signed for the taking the
picture #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:18:36 PST 2011

EllenRichter @westr Hi there! :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:18:45 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @EllenRichter Have had to get consents take pictures of wounds when working in
wound care before. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:18:46 PST 2011

chemosabe @InfusionNurse my interpretation was that they neither got consent or dissent re
taking or posting the pix? #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:19:27 PST 2011

EllenRichter @jrobinsonRN I agree with you about the teacher. If the student didnt know better, I
can understand. But teacher should have known #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:19:46 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP I remember the days when the placentas were stored in a freezer and sold for 25
cents each to the cosmetic industry. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:19:49 PST 2011

rnchat @jrobinsonRN I understand that - but the question here is: was the school's
response professional? Or reflective of righteous anger? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:19:51 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 - they had NO social media policy - I questioned them about one - after they
closed for a day - http://tinyurl.com/239vcy5 #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:19:56 PST 2011

westr Yep, lurking, and cause its an interesting topic. RT @EllenRichter: @westr Hi there!
:) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:20:00 PST 2011

midwifeamy @rnchat Amy Romano, CNM, delurking because topic is placentas. :) #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:20:24 PST 2011

Geek2Nurse T1 Nursing student posing w/human placenta is distasteful? Then what about this?
http://bit.ly/eCxUS2 (Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor) #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:20:35 PST 2011

Aggiern95 T1 SON need to come up with a SM policy. #RNChat #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:20:40 PST 2011
WTOAssociates @EllenRichter Hi Ellen! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:20:47 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 -much of the blame lies with the instructor #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:20:49 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn Ok, coming in a little late. What's the topic? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:21:12 PST 2011

EllenRichter @nursingpins This incident just reinforces why every business & facility needs to
create social media policy immediately #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:21:13 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy Maybe I'm missing something- was this part of a lab or in hosp just after a birth?
((sorry). #RNChat #confusedasUsual
Thu Jan 6 18:21:26 PST 2011

EllenRichter @WTOAssociates Hi there! :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:21:35 PST 2011

InfusionNurse Placenta and student nurse RT @joyceharrellrn: Ok, coming in a little late. Whats
the topic? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:21:47 PST 2011

dorameulman #RNchat Dora here critical care. Sorry I'm late. I'm catching up, this story has got a
lot of attention!
Thu Jan 6 18:21:54 PST 2011

midwifeamy @rnchat how is an SN posing with a placenta different from surgical pictures used
as a person's social media avatar? #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:03 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 - press release after Judge ruled today -
http://www.jccc.edu/press_releases/2011/gen-lawsuit-injunction.html #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:04 PST 2011

midwifeamy @rnchat (which I've seen) #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:22 PST 2011

sarahbethrn maybe i'm the only one, but i don't think her actions were unprofessional at all
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:23 PST 2011

Aggiern95 @EllenRichter @nursingpins I agree that a SM needs to be created for all SON
today. #RNChat #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:24 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @rnchat 2 many social media breaches these days-they should have known better
already.Expulsion may be only way to send a message. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:27 PST 2011
onlinenursing @RNchat - bad part of this whole thing was it had the feel of neg side of nursing -
power plays where the 1s N power R always right #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:33 PST 2011

MedicalNotice First time here and I am observing. Writer of Medical Issues #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:46 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @chemosabe instructor did.. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:50 PST 2011

pamressler Yes! RT @EllenRichter: @nursingpins Just reinforces why every business & facility
needs to create social media policy immediately #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:53 PST 2011

edinnola1 @jrobinsonRN @nursingpins which patient? To me the director is the on that
needs to be released. Screaming & crying at the students. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:22:57 PST 2011

philbaumann T1 If nursing schools used expulsion as a pedagogical tool everyday, there'd be 0
nurses. "Serious" is different from "Professional" #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:23:01 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP Maybe they were preparing their students for life in a hospital. Make one mistake
and off with your head. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:23:01 PST 2011

PamelaKline @CyFanRN T1 I agree! They should have taught lessons to both but not expulsion.
#rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:23:06 PST 2011

cjbryant I'm agree RT @sarahbethrn: maybe im the only one, but i dont think her actions
were unprofessional at all #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:23:32 PST 2011

EllenRichter @MedicalNotice Oh boy, welcome! You picked a hot topic chat! :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:23:40 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 - sad thing - student took a beating on fb after being "dismissed" ---and I
hammered them http://www.facebook.com/JCCC411 #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:23:47 PST 2011

onlinenursing @EllenRichter Good point, but they need to be well thought out and not
authoritative/punitive - #sm policies #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:23:47 PST 2011

NursingCenter @nursingpins Thanks for all the links Vernon! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:23:55 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy @EllenRichter totally agree there needs to be sm policy- esp since the younger
generations lack common sense sometimes. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:24:04 PST 2011
KSkipperFoster @sarahbethrn agreed. in a lab excited to learn #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:24:06 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn So what's the consensus so far on the placenta issue? I didn't see a HIPPA
violation. Maybe some bad taste. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:24:10 PST 2011

Aggiern95 T1 there are so many other issues occurring in nursing school today #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:24:22 PST 2011

rnchat @jrobinsonRN Well, there are legal consequences of expulsion too. Can't just
make up rules on these things in a vacuum. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:24:27 PST 2011

holisticnurses Hi everyone! Popping in for a bit. Great topics~ #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:24:36 PST 2011

TrustMiguel Interesting discussion about #JCCC in #RNchat some support the college and
others ... not so much.
Thu Jan 6 18:24:40 PST 2011

PamelaKline @westr @sarahbethrn T1~ My hubby and I where just discussing this...I agree.
#rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:24:43 PST 2011

onlinenursing @nursingpins You are a total student advocate #RNChat - nursing needs more like
you. Thank you!
Thu Jan 6 18:24:49 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 I don't think there was anything wrong with the photos - but some people are not
ready for them #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:07 PST 2011

sarahbethrn esteemed MD or giggly nursing student: someone compare FB photo to photo on
http://www.mystrokeofinsight.com/ #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:10 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn I can't get tweetchat to work tonight. Anyother grid I can use? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:24 PST 2011

cjbryant @joyceharrellrn No HIPAA violation; not bad taste for her generation; they share
everything on FB #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:24 PST 2011

midwifeamy I've taught with real placentas b4 and my students took pix. I have no problem with
them sharing those on FB/Twitter #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:30 PST 2011

Kat_SN Posing with a placenta is a little different than posing with a patient... not sure how I
see this as any kind of ethical breech. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:30 PST 2011

@KSkipperFoster @sarahbethrn Intentions good, but as one who gave birth last
asherwat year, idea of someone posing with my placenta is creepy #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:39 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP @joyceharrellrn Judge put her back in school. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:42 PST 2011

dorameulman #RNchat I think it was an honest lack of judgement on the young nurses part & a
hugh knee jerk over reaction on the part of her school!
Thu Jan 6 18:25:52 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn OK, it's working now. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:53 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 - the school was in no way professional #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:25:59 PST 2011

chemosabe @InfusionNurse my interpretation from the posted article wa that she said "oh u
girls", doesn't imply either way to me #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:26:00 PST 2011

EllenRichter @joyceharrellrn TweetGrid #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:26:01 PST 2011

holisticnurses Amy from NY btw. Telehealth Nurse. Can someone rt the initial question for me?
Thx. T1 #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:26:09 PST 2011

philbaumann Let's note: It's easy to lose context in a picture. The SN may have been just happy -
not disrespectful. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:26:11 PST 2011

InfusionNurse Lots of HCP posts gross pics...difference is, she's a nursing student. Would a prof
nurse be fired? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:26:20 PST 2011

onlinenursing T1 The Placenta Incident: Was expulsion of SN for posting picture of placenta on
FB proportionate? See http://bit.ly/fe7zfe #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:26:45 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn OK. How does everyone feel about judge putting her back in school? I think she
was unprofessional, but young #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:26:58 PST 2011

philbaumann T1 I think nursing schools are going to have to really understand the age we live in.
In fact: it's a professional responsibility. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:27:00 PST 2011

Aggiern95 @InfusionNurse I think there is an issue of boundaries. As a L&D I would not be
posting a placenta picture online. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:27:23 PST 2011

InfusionNurse not reason not to go back..RT @joyceharrellrn: OK. judge putting her back in
school? I think she was unprofessional, but young #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:27:50 PST 2011

holisticnurses @nursingpins T1 Agreed. It may have been a 'weird' photo by mainstream
standards or to those who don't work in HC Not unprofessional #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:27:51 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy So why is this even an issue then? #facepalm Med students do much worse with
stuff in lab RT @cmizer17 Lab Not at A Hospital! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:27:56 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn Yes, I think the SN just got caught up in the moment. I was on her side due to lack of
clear guidelines and que from the instructor. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:27:58 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers Twitter is a public place, FB is more private RT @midwifeamy: ...no problem with
them sharing those on FB/Twitter #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:27:58 PST 2011

Aggiern95 @InfusionNurse That type of information would shared with my coworkers not on a
Social Media Site #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:28:15 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN Can't have punishments in vaccuum but what does it take to get people to think b4
sharing info that isn't appropriate.Not a new prob #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:28:18 PST 2011

CyFanRN @EllenRichter #rnchat I guarantee the HIPPA police at my clinic would have had a
stroke if they saw this even tho it's clearly not a viol.
Thu Jan 6 18:28:25 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN @JoyceHarrellRN Think it was a good decision to reinstate. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:28:30 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @Infusionnurse Right I am glad they let her back. Lesson learned for her, though.
#RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:28:36 PST 2011

Kat_SN I am a 33 year old mature woman, nursing student, and if I got to play with a
placenta, I would be all smiles. That's awesome! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:28:45 PST 2011

midwifeamy The woman gave it willingly for teaching purposes. (she had kept it). The students
sent her baby a thank you note. :) #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:28:48 PST 2011

Trybarefoot So, #RNchat is all about placentas tonite - and #lrnchat is talking about being
'overworked' and strategies!! Great nite!
Thu Jan 6 18:28:49 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @FrisoRaemaekers FB can be private but only if the person understands how to
use the controls properly. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:28:59 PST 2011

rnchat @holisticnurses http://twitter.com/#!/RNchat/status/23198736100360192 #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:29:12 PST 2011
InfusionNurse @Aggiern95 difference is recognizing limit..she's still young and not yet a nurse
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:29:13 PST 2011

nursingpins T1 one professor at the school voiced disagreement (only voice of reason)on fb -
many posts crit the students? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:29:16 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @wanderer rn I am glad they let her back in. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:29:16 PST 2011

sarahbethrn @nursingpins I like how they said they had a SM policy--when it was dated 2011,
after "The Incident" #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:29:21 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy Exactly. What were HER(or his) consequences for this debaucle? RT
@nursingpins: T1 -much of the blame lies with the instructor #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:29:35 PST 2011

westr Not at that age. RT @cjbryant: I'm agree RT @sarahbethrn: maybe im the only one,
but i dont think her actions were unprofessional.. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:29:44 PST 2011

midwifeamy Other than society's unease with placentas, what is the problem with sharing pix?
No way to know whose placenta it is. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:04 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP The student learned. Did the school learn anything? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:06 PST 2011

chemosabe nah ur not !RT @sarahbethrn: maybe im the only one, but i dont think her actions
were unprofessional at all #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:08 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn The woman gave it willingly. Did she sign a release to allow pics? But then, yes
should have stayed in a learning mode, not FB #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:10 PST 2011

rnchat @jrobinsonRN Education. There's too much teaching-by-anger going on. This is
where eating-of-the-young comes from. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:23 PST 2011

TrustMiguel her attorney argued #JCCC denied her due process & judge agreed. my
understanding is that ethics did not come into play #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:28 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse @Aggiern95 She's graduating in a few month.Is her judgement
going to suddenly improve in that time? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:34 PST 2011

asherwat @midwifeamy I did wonder if another organ, or a test tube would have created the
same hysteria #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:39 PST 2011
joyceharrellrn I had felt like the instructor didn't know what to do, then let the student take the
fall.Of course I am outside looking in, #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:55 PST 2011

nursingpins @sarahbethrn there was MUCH "Sociaganda" on their fb - #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:30:55 PST 2011

InfusionNurse sometimes posting on FB/Twitter blurs the boundary between personal /
professional or work life...need to be more careful #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:31:29 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse @Aggiern95 I think she will def. think twice about
her actions. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:31:31 PST 2011

chemosabe @jrobinsonRN think the ? as raised earlier is that as an RN would she have lost
her licensure? #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:31:35 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @TrustMiguel Due process does make it different than ethics.But I'm still not
impressed with the frivolity of the situation. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:31:36 PST 2011

rnchat Wow, well this is quite a stream tonight! ...We'll shift the convo just a bit in a
moment. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:32:04 PST 2011

Esme_SageFemme @midwifeamy Exactly, I disagree that SM policy was necessary. Tech evolves so
rapidly, ethics policy is enough. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:32:07 PST 2011

nursesluck #RNchat Look! This placenta was in a woman's body and I can touch it! Never mind
that she may have suffered for it! ~tres insensitive!
Thu Jan 6 18:32:10 PST 2011

westr !!! RT @rnchat: @jrobinsonRN Education. There's too much teaching-by-anger
going on. This is where eating-of-the-young comes from. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:32:23 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @joyceharrellrn @jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse @Aggiern95 ..wonder how she
will feel or treated when she goes back on Jan 19... #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:32:30 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @chemosabe Might lose license. Nurses are getting sanctioned all over for posting
pictures of pt body parts. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:32:35 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @lyall @nursingpins Yes,I saw the pic,and was not offended,But as a nurse,we "get
it", while non medical is not going to understand. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:32:37 PST 2011

nursefriendly @dorameulman That Sums it up nicely. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:32:42 PST 2011
IrisTopaz Karma! RT @Trybarefoot:So, #RNchat is all about placentas tonite-and #lrnchat is
talking about being 'overworked' & strategies!! Great nite!
Thu Jan 6 18:32:49 PST 2011

Aggiern95 @JoyceHarrellRN @jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse I think the student learned her
lesson #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:00 PST 2011

KSkipperFoster Frivolity or excited to learn? RT @jrobinsonRN: @TrustMiguel Due not impressed
with the frivolity of the situation. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:02 PST 2011

midwifeamy @asherwat exactly. In fact, I'm surprised fB didn't delete the pics. Theyve done that
2women who have posted pix of their own on FB #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:04 PST 2011

Esme_SageFemme The RN student did not behave unethically. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:10 PST 2011

sarahbethrn I would take and post a picture of a placenta in a lab any day. Would you fire me?
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:15 PST 2011

TrustMiguel if the lawsuit moves forward, which I think it will, #JCCC will probably push ethics
center stage #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:19 PST 2011

rnchat T1b The Placenta Incident: Serious versus Responsible. Does nursing confuse
being serious with being responsible? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:32 PST 2011

nursingpins Still hard to believe the school took such drastic measures without ANY policy!
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:36 PST 2011

westr Yup, they goofed! RT @DonaldWoodARNP: The student learned. Did the school
learn anything? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:37 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @chemosabe How are you doing tonight? This morning? Whatever it is for you...:)
#RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:50 PST 2011

chemosabe @jrobinsonRN but again the conjecture is that this is no longer a body part and
was no identifiable to an individual? #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:50 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @westr @rnchat Not trying to eat young.Social media is not new.They should know
better by now if they are in college. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:33:55 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn Too bad the SN isn't on here tonight to give her perspective. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:34:11 PST 2011
rnchat T1b Follow-up: Anybody can be serious: serious doesn't do anything (leads to
anger). Responsibility is about problem-solving. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:34:31 PST 2011

cmizer17 I Wonder If That Particular Teacher Is Even Saying "Yes, I Ok'd The Photos" Or If
They R Saying They Didn't Say. That #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:34:36 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP Tech does evolve rapidly as does medicine. Does that mean that we should just
ignore it? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:34:39 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Reactive vs proactive? RT @nursingpins: Still hard to believe the school took such
drastic measures without ANY policy! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:34:40 PST 2011

nursesluck #RNchat But certainly it was sensational for JCCC to expel them. They asked if it
was ok to post the pic and teacher said yes. They DID ask.
Thu Jan 6 18:34:42 PST 2011

nursefriendly @InfusionNurse I'm sure a hospital would consider it if she posted it on a public
forum and they got wind of it. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:34:43 PST 2011

chemosabe @joyceharrellrn hey Joyce is is lunchtime and I'm doin fine TGIF #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:35:17 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @chemosabe Wasn't identifiable but poor judgement can lead to worse
infractions.We have to have our pts trust first and foremost. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:35:19 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Porb. too scared of ANY social media now! RT @JoyceHarrellRN: Too bad the SN
isn't on here tonight to give her perspective. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:35:20 PST 2011

InfusionNurse how is this different from taking a pic of a medical cadaver's body part and posting
on FB? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:35:21 PST 2011

EllenRichter T1 We all learned a lesson from the student's web experience. Hopefully leaders
will take action to prevent more of these errors #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:35:24 PST 2011

rnchat @JoyceHarrellRN I actually believe I found her Twitter profile...but didn't want to
catch her off-guard. Will do so backchannel. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:35:34 PST 2011

nursingpins How photos/info is presented in all social media will make the difference with
acceptance - must be professional w/wo a policy #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:00 PST 2011

InfusionNurse IF they find out RT @nursefriendly: m sure a hospital would consider it if she posted
it on a public forum and they got wind of it. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:06 PST 2011
westr Reprimand but not expel. RT @jrobinsonRN @rnchat Social media is not new.They
should know better by now if they are in college. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:16 PST 2011

sarahbethrn no one died RT @InfusionNurse: how is this different from taking a pic of a medical
cadavers body part and posting on FB? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:16 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN T1, we learned- maybe. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:28 PST 2011

holisticnurses I'm proud of all of the support for the student through Twitter. Once again, makes me
feel proud to be a nurse among good company. #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:48 PST 2011

chemosabe @jrobinsonRN wasn't being adversarial and will give u this one - have to have our
pts trust first and foremost #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:50 PST 2011

TrustMiguel #JCCC publications feature students healthcare learners working on patients as do
other #comm_college publications. is it different? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:54 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @rnchat @JoyceHarrellRN Wow. It would have been great to have her and see
what she had to say.She probably has a gag order, though #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:36:56 PST 2011

EllenRichter T1 As health care professionals we have a duty to show respect & portray a
professional demeanor in public incuding via social media #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:37:16 PST 2011

nursefriendly @JoyceHarrellRN #rnchat I think that was absolutely the right call - to reinstate her.
She broke new ground, re school policies.
Thu Jan 6 18:37:25 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @sarahbethrn medical cadavers are for learning..wasnt the placenta in this case?
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:37:37 PST 2011

MedicalNotice I agree with Reprimand but not expel. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:37:55 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @TrustMiguel Have seen calls for photos w/pts - prof. journals usually require
consent from all parties in photos #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:38:00 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @holisticnurses I am also proud of the support! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:38:02 PST 2011

cjbryant i think we have more of a generational issue. 4 GenY, posting on FB is like
boomers picking up the phone & calling friends #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:38:04 PST 2011
makingsofanurse Sorry I'm late! Wow, looks like I joined quite a hopping discussion. :-) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:38:15 PST 2011

onlinenursing Rcntly read SM policy by h/c sytem-3 pages long,small font-basicly said "if U say
'anything' about anything anywhere' U will B fired #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:38:19 PST 2011

holisticnurses @InfusionNurse @sarahbethrn Yes, had it been from an actual delivery. Different
story, but at this point it was a specimen. #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:38:26 PST 2011

nursingpins If facebook had a page for student experiences (med/nur) the photos would be
much more acceptable (context is key) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:38:39 PST 2011

nursesluck #RNchat Is it ok, by extension, to post pics of large gaping wounds? Not showing
the pt or any other id factor? No, it's not.
Thu Jan 6 18:38:41 PST 2011

philbaumann @joyceharrellrn I thought long and hard about it. Since I couldn't speak w/her, I
decided to let it roll. There's always time l8r. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:38:58 PST 2011

EllenRichter @onlinenursing Oh boy, nice policy! They tried to cover all bases, eh? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:03 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN Do we know what the facility had to say to the college? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:04 PST 2011

nursefriendly @Aggiern95 @InfusionNurse #rnchat Boundaries are one thing, rules outlining
those boundaries are another. The rules do not exist at school
Thu Jan 6 18:39:12 PST 2011

TrustMiguel @jrobinsonRN if placenta was donated, who should give consent? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:18 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @InfusionNurse @sarahbethrnThe medical cadavers,we"get them",but the public
doesn't.I mean,we can do really gross things & then eat. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:21 PST 2011

makingsofanurse I agree that it's a generation issue, but I also think my generation doesn't always
know our limits/realize just how public SM is. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:36 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN T1, wound pics ARE different. The placenta was no longer attached. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:40 PST 2011

cjbryant @nursesluck CCF posted pic of an ugly wound recently on their FB page. Don't
know if they had consent; doubt their FB mgr got fired #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:52 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers Good attitude in US! RT @JoyceHarrellRN: @holisticnurses I am also proud of the
support! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:57 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN Nurses have gotten fired for posting pics of wounds in ER w/o naming names. I
don't think this is much different. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:39:59 PST 2011

onlinenursing @EllenRichter yep-they even called anything at work 'trade secrets' -Seriously! I
was like- what? We all learn from each other in SM #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:40:03 PST 2011

nursingpins @jrobinsonRN the facility would have no part in it :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:40:09 PST 2011

nursefriendly @EllenRichter @nursingpins #rnchat Yep, and you can bet those policies are
being formulated as we speak.
Thu Jan 6 18:40:17 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @philbaumann @joyceharrellrn Right. So you found her, too? Maybe someone
could privately let her know about our little chat tonight. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:40:22 PST 2011

InfusionNurse LOL true RT @joyceharrellrn: @sarahbethrn,but the public doesnt.I mean,we can
do really gross things & then eat. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:40:24 PST 2011

edinnola1 @sarahbethrn @nursingpins I still think the director was the unprofessional 1. I
discussed this with my RNs @ work. All in favor SN. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:40:48 PST 2011

sarahbethrn a wound is on a pt, a placenta is medical waste. it is weird to take a pic, but not
WRONG #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:40:55 PST 2011

nursingpins stream too fast to read:) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:00 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @makingsofanurse Ok, I may be old but shouldn't a generation that grew up
w/computers have better understanding of what NOT to post #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:01 PST 2011

holisticnurses @makingsofanurse Perhaps b/c we're all STILL learning the fine line between truth
and the reality of SM. Lots of room for misinterp. #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:12 PST 2011

philbaumann *Of course* our obligation is to patient privacy, dignity, safety. But we're also
responsible for facing the reality of our times. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:32 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn I guess there is something wrong with me, but I think way too much was made
about it. She was a scapegoat to make a point. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:36 PST 2011

cmizer17 I'm Sure The School Will Hide Behind The Idea Of Unprofessionaliam Which They
Can Say Is Whatever They Deem It 2 B #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:45 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP I agree - getting dizzy at times.RT @nursingpins: stream too fast to read:) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:48 PST 2011

Fonz_The_Boss Posting the pic on Facebook for a few hours gets them kicked out of the program? I
agree that a social media policy is needed, SMH #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:50 PST 2011

KSkipperFoster Yes RT @sarahbethrn: a wound is on a pt, a placenta is medical waste. it is weird
to take a pic, but not WRONG #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:54 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Amen! RT @nursingpins: stream too fast to read:) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:41:58 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @jrobinsonRN @makingsofanurse ..dont post anything on SM sites if you dont
want ur mother to see or read!! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:42:04 PST 2011

sarasteinmd Eavesdropping - fascinating!! A sr nsg student photo'd body parts, put them on the
web & expulsion reversed?? #RNChat #HCSM @danamlewis
Thu Jan 6 18:42:12 PST 2011

nursefriendly @DonaldWoodARNP #rnchat Nope, just think they were caught off guard. This was
probably the first event of i's kind they dealt with - poorly
Thu Jan 6 18:42:17 PST 2011

sarahbethrn @jrobinsonRN i still don't have a reason why not to post a pic of a placenta?!
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:42:35 PST 2011

holisticnurses @jrobinsonRN @makingsofanurse Younger generations trust the relationships
made online? Perhaps that's the lesson to be taught. #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:42:44 PST 2011

NurseTeeny @jrobinsonRN I think our generation actually enjoys how public SM is w/out
thinking about the potential consequences. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:42:54 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @chemosabe @joyceharrellrn And the yes part? LOL #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:42:59 PST 2011

cjbryant I think pt of problem is misunderstanding of Soc Med; FB/Twitter not frivolous - its a
new paradigm of connecting #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:42:59 PST 2011

chemosabe @cmizer17 yeh, I wondered if there is more to it than just the post too! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:42:59 PST 2011

NursesNightOut @nursingpins Way too fast...but a good problem to have. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:42:59 PST 2011
Wanderer_RN T1,the school, by over-reacting made this into a bigger issue than it truly was.
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:43:12 PST 2011

nursesluck #RNchat We all know that openly poking fun at pts via their body parts is not
acceptable. SNs have to learn limits. We all did at some time.
Thu Jan 6 18:43:20 PST 2011

InfusionNurse just dont wear ur school logo..LOL RT @sarahbethrn: @jrobinsonRN i still dont
have a reason why not to post a pic of a placenta?! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:43:20 PST 2011

rnchat @nursingpins :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:43:23 PST 2011

edinnola1 @jrobinsonRN @InfusionNurse @Aggiern95 learning or teaching moment here
missed. Sit her down & say you shouldn't do this because ... #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:43:30 PST 2011

holisticnurses @EllenRichter appreciate the apostrophe. :) Thank you, lady! Too fast. #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:43:41 PST 2011

cjbryant !!! RT @holisticnurses: @jrobinsonRN @makingsofanurse Younger generations
trust relationships made online? Perhaps thats the lesson #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:43:50 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @NurseTeeny Must be.Have family members that scare me to death by what they
post on FB. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:43:59 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN @SarahBethRN because there is no real reason NOT to. Poor taste doesn't count!
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:44:12 PST 2011

cmizer17 I Get Sick & Tired Of The "We Need 2 Represent" For All Nurses Out There! I Don't
Feel Less Of a Nurse bc Of Social Media! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:44:13 PST 2011

NurseTeeny @SarahBethRN I don't think everyone thinks of placentas as simply "medical
waste". #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:44:32 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN I would be angry if it were me.But when I think of the repercussions, I just can't
blame the school for being heavyhanded quickly. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:44:49 PST 2011

chemosabe @joyceharrellrn the bit of ur orig post i deleted to make room ROFL #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:44:51 PST 2011

nursingpins fb is no longer just for fun and games - acceptance will follow - just have to be
careful and not get to far ahead of the acceptance #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:44:54 PST 2011
nursesluck @cjbryant #RNchat but did they include the face of a grinning nurse touching the
wound pics? That's what's distasteful in this case.
Thu Jan 6 18:45:08 PST 2011

sarahbethrn hospitals do RT @NurseTeeny: @SarahBethRN I dont think everyone thinks of
placentas as simply "medical waste". #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:45:26 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @chemosabe @joyceharrellrn ROFL... :) #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:45:27 PST 2011

makingsofanurse I think the instructor REALLY dropped the ball on this one. Where is her
accountability in all this? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:45:36 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @nursesluck @cjbryant But, we really don't know her intent in the smiling.
#RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:45:56 PST 2011

philbaumann @joyceharrellrn Agree - I just had to think about the proper use of social media in
this case. Ironic, huh? ;) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:46:19 PST 2011

nursingpins again - I think context is important for acceptance - nothing but toonland posts -
then a placenta photo raises eyebrows #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:46:37 PST 2011

InfusionNurse The other 3 student nurses were also reinstated...how do u think they will be treated
when they go back... #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:46:40 PST 2011

EllenRichter Agree!! RT @makingsofanurse I think the instructor REALLY dropped the ball on
this. Where is her accountability in all this? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:46:54 PST 2011

cmizer17 @chemosabe Possibly I Think We R Hearing The Students side Of It, But I Would B
VERY Skeptical Of What The School Says 2! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:47:14 PST 2011

NurseTeeny @SarahBethRN But that's prioritizing our biomedical beliefs above those of others,
who may have truly been offended by such a photo #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:47:18 PST 2011

chemosabe @InfusionNurse heroes by their peers enemies by the faculty! probably #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:47:26 PST 2011

TrustMiguel @EricStoller @RNchat #JCCC Student nurse speaks ... well, kinda
http://bit.ly/fi80Sv #RNchat #sachat
Thu Jan 6 18:47:29 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @EllenRichter @makingsofanurse Instructor. I'm sorry, I think she was just saving
her a**, and let the SN take the fall... #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:47:44 PST 2011
rnchat Well, The Placenta Incident sure is packed with a lot of issues. Great discussion!
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:48:19 PST 2011

CyFanRN #RNchat I just wonder how many similar type pix are posted on SM each day that
don't turn into an issue...
Thu Jan 6 18:48:20 PST 2011

InfusionNurse would not be a comfy situation RT @chemosabe: heroes by their peers enemies by
the faculty! probably #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:48:25 PST 2011

chemosabe placenta is part of the being in oz aborigines. buried in the ground on which we are
born to maintain the link to the land, home. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:48:32 PST 2011

dorameulman #RNchat T1 this is what's wrong with nursing. We get so bent out of shape about
storms in a teacup that we miss what's important for nurses
Thu Jan 6 18:48:40 PST 2011

nursingpins each nursing school could have a page for stu to post photos that do not violate
privacy - but are ahead of the curve - more accep #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:48:40 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn EVERYTHING that happens in clinical falls on the instructor.If I were the instructor, I
would have taken the blame. Honestly. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:48:44 PST 2011

rnchat OK - let's shift to a final section of this #RNchat. See next tweet.
Thu Jan 6 18:48:51 PST 2011

onlinenursing As an instructor would have allowed the pictures in lab & probably taken some
myself it - FB posting, I am still not sure #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:48:54 PST 2011

cjbryant My guess - alot RT @CyFanRN: #RNchat I wonder how many similar type pix are
posted on SM each day that dont turn into an issue... #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:49:07 PST 2011

InfusionNurse Think this is the 2nd SM related issue involving a stud nurse - dismissed then
reinstated.. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:49:21 PST 2011

holisticnurses @joyceharrellrn Good point! An opportunity for an open discussion turned into
"fear". We all wouldn't have heard of it otherwise. #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:49:39 PST 2011

chemosabe @dorameulman yep coming back to the eating our young of one of the prev chats
#rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:49:45 PST 2011

rnchat T1c Nursing Education: Does nursing education *have* to be so dramatic? What's
best way to instill values w/o anger? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:50:24 PST 2011
NurseTeeny From my understanding of the article, the girls told her they wanted to post the pic
online? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:50:26 PST 2011

sarahbethrn Case in point. Nurses eat their young. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:50:28 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers Agree! RT @jrobinsonRN: RT @dorameulman .... We get so bent out of shape
about storms in a teacup,we miss whats important #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:50:36 PST 2011

holisticnurses The bigger lesson is lack of communication among health care professionals. Isn't
that the underlying issue here. TALK to student. #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:50:43 PST 2011

Trybarefoot Why is it I only ever RNs use that phrase "eating our young"? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:50:50 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy all nurses in general need to be mindful of SM-many devices now post ur location,
ppl check in to work on foursquare & gab about pts #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:03 PST 2011

holisticnurses @rnchat Communication! If you don't understand, then clarify. Simple as that.
#RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:25 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN T1c: education does not have to done with anger - if we are proactive rather than
reactive. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:27 PST 2011

Aggiern95 T1c There is a time & place for being "dramatic" to get a point across in education
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:29 PST 2011

midwifeamy People feel differently about placentas than they do about kidneys, etc. It's a life-
giving organ that only a woman can grow #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:30 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn OK. Drama in Nsg school.I will vent.I think Nsg School has become about the %
passing the Nclex, and less about the growth of SN #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:32 PST 2011

onlinenursing T1c - Nursing ed needs to model respect, communicate, and make school a 'safe'
place to learn/question/ find teachable moments #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:39 PST 2011

chemosabe @holisticnurses ew talking to students ... jk :) #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:40 PST 2011

PamelaKline @rnchat T1C~ to lead by example. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:44 PST 2011

edinnola1 @joyceharrellrn @EllenRichter @makingsofanurse "oh you girls". Me: is that a yes
or no. Yes ok. Thanks. No. Okay I wont post pic. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:49 PST 2011

nursesluck #RNchat No one knows how that placenta came to be on the table. What the
woman went thru to donate it. It's not casual fun. Smile silly.
Thu Jan 6 18:51:51 PST 2011

nursingpins many nursing schools were following the fb page - this will cert make the ones w/o
a policy take notice #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:51:56 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @Trybarefoot Nurses rarely get a lunch break - we have to eat our young or we'd
be hungry :) #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:01 PST 2011

Aggiern95 @RNchat T1c I believe that the school went too far in this case #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:01 PST 2011

Preparing4Birth @midwifeamy I DIG a placenta - now that I have my own office fridge - i can take
them home when a mother is not encapsualting #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:03 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Drama is one thing, this wasn't. RT @Aggiern95: T1c There is a time & place for
being "dramatic" to get a point across in education #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:06 PST 2011

Esme_SageFemme T1c Part of making RN education "safer" has got to be shifting some of the crazy
power relationships btwn RNs & SNs #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:06 PST 2011

holisticnurses Yeah, what's that? :) RT @chemosabe: @holisticnurses ew talking to students ... jk
:) #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:09 PST 2011

lyall #RNChat Placentas are awesome.
Thu Jan 6 18:52:10 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy Cont- many of the blog writers used to keep it private- fake name & no location, yet
they let twitter show u where are at any moment #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:16 PST 2011

midwifeamy Maybe that's why the student was smiling in the pic. Not bc she wasn't "serious" or
"responsible" #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:23 PST 2011

Trybarefoot is THAT the origin? RT @jrobinsonRN: @Trybarefoot Nurses rarely get a lunch
break - we have to eat our young or we'd be hungry :) #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:52:39 PST 2011

onlinenursing @chemosabe ROFL!!!! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:53:13 PST 2011

holisticnurses Hey guys! Gotta leave the chat. It's been fun. Hope to follow some new nurses. Bye
bye. Thanks, all! #RNCHat
Thu Jan 6 18:53:15 PST 2011

DonaldWoodARNP Eyes heavy...TweetChat turning into a blur. Good night all, very enjoyable and
interesting session. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:53:22 PST 2011

CruiseAcademy They are teetering on a fine line in many ways....ie those who are careless
w/locations. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:53:24 PST 2011

Esme_SageFemme With more adult learners & 2nd degree students. Teaching "down" should no
longer be acceptable. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:53:26 PST 2011

makingsofanurse What exactly do we mean by "drama"? I saw us create a lot of our own drama as
SNs...the culture of self-destruction starts early #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:53:33 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @holisticnurses bye Amy! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:53:43 PST 2011

rnchat @DonaldWoodARNP Good night! Cheers! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:53:52 PST 2011

sarahbethrn t1c: the avg. age of a nursing instructor 55. the avg. age of a floor RN 50...any
connection to anger in teaching? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:54:00 PST 2011

InfusionNurse Arent placentas used to make skin products? :) RT @joyceharrellrn: RT
@holisticnurses: RT @lyall: Placentas are awesome. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:54:28 PST 2011

rnchat @holisticnurses Thanks for stopping in, Amy. Have a good night. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:54:30 PST 2011

NursingCenter @holisticnurses Bye ~ have a good night! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:54:32 PST 2011

TrustMiguel Read the #JCCC student nurse's full complaint http://bit.ly/gAZPqb #sachat
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:54:32 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @Esme_SageFemme I agree - no teaching down.Thus these professional students
should not have to be told what is appropriate. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:54:35 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn Hi @infusionnurse Hope you are having a great night! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:54:55 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @sarahbethrn Sorry, not following train of thought relating age to anger. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:55:02 PST 2011
Esme_SageFemme I had convo c RN faculty last week where they described 2nd degree students as
"arrogant" b/c they question processes. Shakes head. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:55:08 PST 2011

sarahbethrn generational differences? RT @jrobinsonRN: @sarahbethrn Sorry, not following
train of thought relating age to anger. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:55:33 PST 2011

rnchat @makingsofanurse I couldn't think of a more precise word ;) Just this: not being
overly serious. Focus on solving & teaching. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:55:42 PST 2011

cmizer17 Like When Christina Aguilera Did The Sketchers Ad in A Nursing Uniform, I Never
Once Thought This Makes Me Less Prof! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:55:48 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers Really? Is it?! where's the rest? RT @SarahBethRN: t1c: the avg. age of a nursing
instructor 55. the avg. age of a floor RN 50... #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:56:00 PST 2011

nursingpins The placenta incident was good in that it raised awareness on many levels for
many people - caused many to think about sm activity #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:56:14 PST 2011

InfusionNurse u too, missed u last nite, hope hubby is better! RT @joyceharrellrn: Hope you are
having a great night! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:56:18 PST 2011

edinnola1 What kinda experience is she going to get now. I wouldn't be surprised if she "drops
out" before May. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:56:20 PST 2011

EllenRichter T1c Nursing students dont need to be led by the hand thru social media but need to
learn to act safely & wisely if representing RNs #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:56:24 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @Esme_SageFemme ???Nurse's must always question to ensure safety - SN's
shouldn't be different.Not impressed w/peeps u spoke with #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:56:30 PST 2011

onlinenursing @Esme_SageFemme Wow - I hate to hear that. It happens all to often. These SN's
will be our peers a short time #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:56:30 PST 2011

Esme_SageFemme I'd rather have a smartass RN who thinks, than a brainwashed RN who is afraid to
speak up when something is wrong. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:56:46 PST 2011

cmizer17 I Have a Picture Of a Placenta On My BB Right Now, Who's To Say I Didn't Take It
During Clinicals! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:57:05 PST 2011

CdrHBiscuitIII And very nutritious. RT @Lyall: Placentas are awesome. #RNCHAT
Thu Jan 6 18:57:07 PST 2011
sarahbethrn #goplacenta #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:57:28 PST 2011

Esme_SageFemme @jrobinsonRN The faculty saw questions as a challenge to their authority. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:57:35 PST 2011

FinnishNurse Hi from Finland! If placenta photos are so wrong, what about putting anonymous x-
ray images to the Web? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:57:41 PST 2011

InfusionNurse doesnt = anger ...RT @sarahbethrn: generational differences? @jrobinsonRN:
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:57:44 PST 2011

nursingpins you can post just about anything (without violations) if done right and in the right
context. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:57:46 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Was going to say that...thought I would get expelled. RT @CdrHBiscuitIII: And very
nutritious. RT @Lyall: Placentas are awesome. #RNCHAT
Thu Jan 6 18:57:51 PST 2011

PamelaKline @EllenRichter ~ I agree! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:58:14 PST 2011

InfusionNurse true RT @nursingpins: you can post just about anything (without violations) if done
right and in the right context. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:58:22 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @Esme_SageFemme Agree - see too many RNs not speak up - can be detrimental
to all. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:58:25 PST 2011

makingsofanurse I think taking the students seriously goes a long way. Often valid concerns go
ignored, which just feeds the faculty-student rift #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:58:34 PST 2011

sarahbethrn maybe not anger, but inferiority RT @InfusionNurse: doesnt = anger ...RT
@sarahbethrn: generational differences? @jrobinsonRN: #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:58:46 PST 2011

chemosabe whoa, got pulled away to do some NotPublic stuff... missed a million posts... #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 18:58:51 PST 2011

philbaumann Generation difference isn't related to anger. However, there are perhaps cultural
differences: diff cult get angry about diff things #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:59:01 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @FinnishNurse Think it is the context of the photos. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:59:07 PST 2011
FrisoRaemaekers Good question from overseas? RT @FinnishNurse: Hi from Finland! ... what about
putting anonymous x-ray images to the Web? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 18:59:11 PST 2011

nursingpins many complaints about the placenta photo was that the student was smiling?
"goolish grin" etc - all must be considered with posts #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 18:59:53 PST 2011

InfusionNurse LOL... RT @chemosabe: whoa, got pulled away to do some NotPublic stuff...
missed a million posts... #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:00:00 PST 2011

rnchat Wow - this has been a fffast hour! Lots of diverse views - opposing views always
most productive. A few more minutes & then wrap-up. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:00:04 PST 2011

EllenRichter @FrisoRaemaekers Good point. But anonymous xray isnt with a smiling radiologist
pointing to a cancer. Its just an xray, not a person #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:00:12 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @sarahbethrn @InfusionNurse OK, so who would be feeling inferior because of
their age? Guess I'm still clueless #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:00:18 PST 2011

Aggiern95 We need to look at the faculty at SON. A lot of them have the clinical experience but
not how to teach. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:00:22 PST 2011

edinnola1 @EllenRichter touche'. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:00:23 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Or other way. RT @Aggiern95: We need to look at the faculty at SON. A lot of them
have the clinical experience but not how to teach. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:01:04 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @MedicalNotice Hey girl, hoping I can be more active on SM tomorrow. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:01:07 PST 2011

nursingpins I'm looking forward to reading this transcript - much more needs to be said by all on
this topic. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:01:34 PST 2011

chemosabe that is a whole nother chat the generation thing, same as the eating young thing...
#rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:01:41 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @jrobinsonRN @sarahbethrn @InfusionNurse i think the instructor would be
intimidated by the older student that questions. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:02:07 PST 2011

InfusionNurse so agree..RT @chemosabe: that is a whole nother chat the generation thing, same
as the eating young thing... #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:02:08 PST 2011
cmizer17 Is This Yours? See Its Ridiculous To Kick Anyone Out Of School 4 Something Like
This! #RNChat http://plixi.com/p/68327913
Thu Jan 6 19:02:13 PST 2011

sarahbethrn actions are possibly age-ist if one gen doesn't understand the other--goes both
ways as well RT @jrobinsonRN:Guess Im still clueless #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:02:15 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Had an instructor who had not been working clinically for years, good teacher,
wasn't able to hack it clinically-wise. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:02:21 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers @FinnishNurse @EllenRichter I think an x-ray is more inappropriate than an
placenta #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:02:50 PST 2011

EllenRichter Great discussion tonight! Gosh, adrenalin-pumped! Appreciate everyone's
opinions. We have lots to do with social media policywriting #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:02:59 PST 2011

onlinenursing @Aggiern95 Doctor's dont hv teaching exp,neither do Rad techs,PT,pharmasists
who teach N their professions-Should nurses B different #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:03:03 PST 2011

chemosabe @Wanderer_RN thats y teachers teach and clinicians devliver care! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:03:24 PST 2011

InfusionNurse sure missed lots of tweets RT @nursingpins: Im looking forward to reading this
transcript - much more needs to be said by all #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:03:33 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @chemosabe I love nursing students, love to teach. But expect some degree of
professionalism- pt's lives are in their hands. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:03:45 PST 2011

sarahbethrn #goplacenta Thanks everyone, good night! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:03:46 PST 2011

onlinenursing @JoyceHarrellRN Excellent point! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:03:56 PST 2011

rnchat Well, @EllenRichter got us on to a heck of a topic tonight with her suggestion.
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:04:05 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN @chemosabe But in order to teach, they need to know current info/trends. This one
didn't. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:04:15 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn Question, so, what institutions would be upset with us as their employees for being
on here 2nite expressing our opinions? #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:04:20 PST 2011

Esme_SageFemme This whole being intimated by students is interesting. Why do instructors feels this
way? Insecurity? Hierarchy? #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:04:27 PST 2011

rnchat OK, friends! Let's bring it on home. I'll have some announcements, but let's hear
your parting thoughts. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:04:36 PST 2011

onlinenursing @RNchat @EllenRichter ROCKS! Nurses Rock for that matter. This has been a
most excellent chat!!!! Thank you all! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:04:44 PST 2011

tealou just not what they're attached to. ;) “@Lyall: #RNChat Placentas are awesome.”
Thu Jan 6 19:04:53 PST 2011

PamelaKline @sarahbethrn good night!! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:04:54 PST 2011

EllenRichter @rnchat I had a strange feeling this topic would elicit some emotions :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:05:04 PST 2011

Aggiern95 @onlinenursing The faculty need to be able to manage their classrooms and bring
real world experience to their students. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:05:07 PST 2011

onlinenursing @Aggiern95 AMEN! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:05:23 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN @JoyceHarrellRN I thing mine might be upset, hence why I'm "shrouded" and don't
have location on! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:05:29 PST 2011

PamelaKline @rnchat @EllenRichter ~ Of COURSE, Ellen's 1 smart chick! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:05:33 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @sarahbethrn Don't care how old someone is - they need to do their job,take care
of pts & each other.Tired of the fighting in nrsng. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:05:43 PST 2011

lyall #RNChat I cook student nurses in a crock pot. Slow cooking ensures they'll be
tender even if you can only get a mature age student.
Thu Jan 6 19:05:51 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @rnchat @philbaumann..great chat, glad to be here tonite..thanks so much!
#RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:05:56 PST 2011

MedicalNotice @JoyceHarrellRN Good Question #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:07 PST 2011

EllenRichter @onlinenursing Thanks! You rock to, sister! Its always a pleasure to hang out here
with you! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:13 PST 2011
pamressler Great discussion...Thx #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:15 PST 2011

NursingCenter This has been a great chat - tough to keep up, will def read transcript! Proud to be
in the company of all these amazing nurses! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:20 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Final thoughts? We have a loooong way to go in regards to SM as a profession (all
of us!) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:27 PST 2011

Trybarefoot As always. Privileged. To be surrounded by RNs in my work. Always a journey of
learning! Thx! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:28 PST 2011

PsychNurseinWI #Rnchat I got here late but I can say as a recent grad there is a lot of anger and it
does not help learning, it breeds resentment.
Thu Jan 6 19:06:36 PST 2011

InfusionNurse LOL RT @lyall: I cook student nurses in crock pot. Slow cooking ensures theyll b
tender even if u can only get a mature age student. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:48 PST 2011

onlinenursing @NursingCenter Agree! Re: Proud to be in the company of all these amazing
nurses! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:48 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @Wanderer_RN Wise about being hid. Maybe I need to use another email for a
new twitter to do the same... #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:49 PST 2011

nursingpins the "placenta incident" was a big step for sm and nursing-awareness, content,
context and accept-was big outside the non-connected #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:56 PST 2011

EllenRichter @jrobinsonRN LOL ;) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:06:58 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn Love connecting with other RN's!!! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:07:09 PST 2011

PsychNurseinWI #RNchat In fact the actions of the Instructors directly affected the actions of the
students which resulted in backbiting and complaining.
Thu Jan 6 19:07:19 PST 2011

rnchat @PsychNurseinWI I'll post a transcript in a bit. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:07:25 PST 2011

PamelaKline @jrobinsonRN @sarahbethrn ~ I couldn't agree more! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:07:25 PST 2011
MedicalNotice I feel privileged as well. Thank you for allowing me to attend the chat #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:07:34 PST 2011

chemosabe happened again...gotta give up being a NotPub I think...missed 2 bazillion posts
this time! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:07:48 PST 2011

PsychNurseinWI #RNchat I think everyone is under stress during nursing school, it is hard, but we
tear each other apart instead of standing together, sad.
Thu Jan 6 19:07:52 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN That would be a hilarious crock pot dish to take to a work pot luck! :) #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:07:52 PST 2011

EllenRichter @PsychNurseinWI You said it perfectly (darn, it was too long to RT!) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:08:11 PST 2011

rnchat @jrobinsonRN @EllenRichter Yes: but we do need that - it's how the world moves
forward, right? (Just as long as nobody gets hurt ;) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:08:11 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @MedicalNotice Glad to see you here! It's been a very long week for me.Next week
better. :) #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:08:13 PST 2011

cmizer17 I Wonder If I Lost Followers During Tonites #RNChat ?? I'm Sure Many Don't Agree
W/ My Liberal Thoughts! But I Still Love Y'all!
Thu Jan 6 19:08:25 PST 2011

NurseTeeny @PsychNurseinWI So true! I saw it in my nursing program too. We turned on each
other when we got overwhelmed. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:08:27 PST 2011

nursesluck #RNchat But this is a perfect example of nurses eating their young. Despite
distasteful grinning they did ask 1st. Now guidelines forced.
Thu Jan 6 19:08:30 PST 2011

chemosabe @Wanderer_RN couldn't agree more, just making a point. #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:08:49 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @philbaumann..imagine all the tweets to b the script 4 ur movie..or make it a song
like Josh Groban did w/Kanye West tweets!! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:09:01 PST 2011

onlinenursing @cmizer17 We love all thoughts at #RNChat - this is how we figure it out-by
discussing it, sometimes my opinion is changed by it.
Thu Jan 6 19:09:02 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN @PsychNurseinWI Yup, unfortunately it continues out in the "real" world.
Sometimes. Hopefully not often! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:09:26 PST 2011

EllenRichter @cmizer17 If you lose followers for having an intellectual chat with professionals
once a week, they are better lost. You know that! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:09:37 PST 2011

chemosabe @tealou wot mother or child? #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:09:37 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @cmizer17 That's ok, I usually lose followers for my more conservative, "old"nurse
views. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:09:52 PST 2011

onlinenursing @InfusionNurse Cora - stop cracking me up! Kanye West tweets song! Good night
all. I have to go - laughed/thought/typed too much #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:09:58 PST 2011

FrisoRaemaekers Good night all! Going to sleep at 4:10 am... I think we have to organize this
#RNChat in the Netherlands #VpkChat
Thu Jan 6 19:10:07 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @EllenRichter @cmizer17 You know there is a way to see who "unfollowed" you. I
love to check it out about everyother day. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:10:29 PST 2011

MedicalNotice @JoyceHarrellRN yes it is going to be another long week next too #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:10:32 PST 2011

EllenRichter @FrisoRaemaekers You & @chemosabe in Australia should put your heads
together & have a chat on that end too! :) #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:11:04 PST 2011

rnchat Next #RNchat is next Thursday 9pm Eastern. Transcript coming up!! THANK YOU
everybody!!
Thu Jan 6 19:11:07 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @onlinenursing good night Terri!! Good to see u again!! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:11:09 PST 2011

PamelaKline @joyceharrellrn @EllenRichter @cmizer17 ~ I'll have to check that out! #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:11:22 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Have agood night y'all! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:11:25 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN @Esme_SageFemme @makingsofanurse Many nurse's don't have time or know
how to teach that a SN concern isn't biggest concern. #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:11:41 PST 2011

CdrHBiscuitIII @Wanderer_RN @Lyall I can't be expelled, I'm a scientist stuck in a lab. :p
#RNCHAT
Thu Jan 6 19:11:47 PST 2011

makingsofanurse Nite nite! :-) #RNchat Thanks for a wonderful discussion, as always!
Thu Jan 6 19:12:04 PST 2011
PamelaKline @rnchat ~ Thank you. Thought provoking conversation :) #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:12:07 PST 2011

Aggiern95 @RNChat thank you for hosting. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:12:08 PST 2011

Wanderer_RN Great #RNchat tonight. Fast and furious for sure, but good!
Thu Jan 6 19:12:10 PST 2011

InfusionNurse @FrisoRaemaekers ..hey check ur DM..i had a question 4 u.. #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:12:13 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn @MedicalNotice I just hope I can get good sleep next week.I haven't been as
productive as I needed.Didn't get on Blog talk this wk #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:12:15 PST 2011

chemosabe @EllenRichter think timing between @frisoraemaekers and I is worse than u lot
and others #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:12:42 PST 2011

joyceharrellrn Thanks, and everybody "be well" this week! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:12:53 PST 2011

jrobinsonRN Nurses need to make teaching students a bigger priority unless they want to be
working till they are 90. I know I don't! #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:13:05 PST 2011

EllenRichter @joyceharrellrn Wow I really wouldnt take time to see who unfollows me! I had no
idea there was a way to check it out. No interest! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:13:12 PST 2011

InfusionNurse Good night all...thanks for a great chat!! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:13:18 PST 2011

FinnishNurse @FrisoRaemaekers @ellenrichter you can also recognize a patient more easily
from an xray than from placenta #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:13:23 PST 2011

MedicalNotice @JoyceHarrellRN yes I havn't been as productive either, However i am always
trying to do 100 things at once #RNChat
Thu Jan 6 19:13:28 PST 2011

EllenRichter @chemosabe Yeah LMAO after I tweeted that I realized duhh...Netherlands &
Australia are not near each other! #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:13:58 PST 2011

nursingpins Kan. students who posted placenta photo reinstated (Bloomburg)
http://tinyurl.com/23cu8v9 #RNchat
Thu Jan 6 19:14:41 PST 2011
chemosabe @EllenRichter it's ok i know yanks have an issue with the globe outside of their
own state borders .... now who gonna hate me? #rnchat
Thu Jan 6 19:14:59 PST 2011