Hampton Comprehensive Waterway Management Plan Steering Committee DECEMBER 14, 2010 6:30 – 8:30 P.M.


Session Two Fred Whitley, P.E. (URS) Kimberly Holland (KHA) See Attachment A

The following minutes refer to discussion based off of the Session 2 Meeting Agenda and its corresponding documents. ITEM I RECAP/REVIEW • Motion to strike two bullets from 11/30 minutes was approved ITEM II • FRED WHITLEY

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MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS (RESPONSES FRED WHITLEY TO QUESTION 1) Floyd Gibbs: Stated that he hopes these meetings will be proven useful and not just end up being a binder of studies taking up shelf space. Asked what this committee is actually going to do. Brought up several historic flood and flood prevention events: o Discussed the creation of the US Geodetic Survey that established flood level benchmarks across the nation o The destruction in New Orleans caused by Hurricane Katrina is a result of man-made decisions and construction o Believes that if homes are raised 10” above the 100 year flood level, then flood damage will be reduced o Asked what Hampton has proactively done since Hurricane Isabel to reduce flood damage to houses o Hampton constructed a $4 million peninsula (Factory Point) that may end up being washed away o Groins along the shoreline led to the loss of Factory Point. Offshore breakwaters work better than groins. Andy Bigelow: Believes that tidal flooding is the biggest waterway issue. Houses built on slabs cannot be raised above sea level but non-slab houses can be raised. We should look into protecting houses that can’t be raised above sea level. Hugh Bassette: He does not remember flooding being an issue in Norfolk back in the 1940’s. Now, flooding is suddenly a problem for places that didn’t use to flood. We need to get ahead of the curve in protecting houses. Carole Garrison: We need an integration of flooding solutions. We don’t want narrowly-focused solutions to inadvertently cause flooding problems for other areas in Hampton. Bob Croft: Two issues – tidal flooding and storm water runoff flooding. Moderate storms allow rainwater to drain. Nor’easters and other large storms blow water into storm drain systems, which prevents rain water from draining. Have we identified the highest tidal areas in Hampton? Can we identify those areas? We should address the crux of this problem. Woody Woodcock: Dredging and stormwater runoff are the #1 problem. Was incredulous to read in a newspaper article that our sea level will rise 4-5 feet in the next 10 years. Perry Pilgrim: There is a political aspect to this Steering Committee and that is coming up with a solution for how to allocate public resources for solving these technical issues. We need to be educated by the scientists and engineers on the technical aspects of this problem so that we have the proper tools for playing the political part. So the Committee needs to know - what is the real function of this group? Andy Bigelow: Was in Holland in the 1960’s. The country literally walled off all of its shoreline for flood protection and it’s worked out for them. We need learn about and consider outside models that have worked for other places like Holland. Bob Croft: In low lying areas, water has nowhere to go. What do we do when our storm drains are full? Water floods his whole neighborhood. Mud and silt gets backed up into inlets. Vince Behm (In response to Question 3): What are the goals and mission of the Steering Committee? Our priorities need to be ranked. o Ken Dierks responded: The charge of the committee is to provide City Council with recommendations. The Committee will look at and add topics, if necessary, and to bring back broad recommendations to Council. The Committee needs to have long-term actions/big ticket items be the goal. Also need to consider where the funding for the recommendations will come from. The Council is looking for broad guidance. Other cities are looking at these same issues so we can learn from them. Floyd Gibbs: Responded to Andy Bigelow regarding slab houses: Houses on slabs can and have been raised and moved. Whole houses can be moved. Hatteras Lighthouse was raised and moved from a slab foundation. Perry Pilgrim: Asked how many subcommittees will be formed o Ken Dierks and Fred Whitley responded: The preliminary answer is five, based on the 5 primary topics, but this is subject to change if it is felt that other subcommittees are appropriate. Vince Behm: Wanted further discussion and reading material on the mission statement and action plan. 1




Fred Whitley: Presented a summary of major studies done on waterways and flooding in the City. Summaries were included in the Committee member’s notebooks. There are three major sources of flooding in Hampton: o Tidal o Heavy rainfall o Obstructions in drainage system (leaves, grass, large trash) The power point presentation and briefing notes will be posted on the project website: www.hamptonengages.com

ITEM IV ESTABLISHING SUBCOMMITTEES TODD SOLOMON • The proposed schedule for Topic Briefings and Subcommittee Meeting period was presented and generally accepted by the Steering Committee. • It is currently proposed that the five subcommittees be formed to work on the management of: o Tidal flooding o Shoreline erosion o Storm water management o Surface water quality o Waterway dredging • Steering committee will receive a template/suggested format for how to engage the public at the upcoming listening session ITEM V PREPARING FOR PUBLIC LISTENING SESSION • Steering committee members will act as hosts for the listening session o Will be given guidance documents for discussions with the public • Steering Committee and consultants are asked to arrive a little early • Discussed hiring a videographer for the background briefs TODD SOLOMON

ITEM VII REVIEW SYLLABUS FRED WHITLEY • Ken Dierks: Will provide the Steering Committee with more information on roles and expectations at the upcoming listening session • Ken Dierks: Indicated the educational sessions will be structured as “jumping off points” for subcommittees to more easily be able to formulate their work • Carole Garrison: Wanted briefings done by 2/15/11. Andy Bigelow concurred. • Steering committee concurred with the meetings schedule as listed in the syllabus ITEM VIII PUBLIC COMMENTS & GENERAL QUESTIONS FRED WHITLEY • Citizen #1: Asked what’s making our weather different now. Observed that storm frequency and intensity has changed. Also noticed that Hampton doesn’t have as many wetlands as it use to. o Ken Dierks responds: We will have an upcoming speaker from NOAA address this topic. • Citizen #2: Commented that part of the waterways solution is that we need to have smarter development that doesn’t impact floodways. Developers need to look at displacement impact in flood plains. • Edith Newkirk: Asked what is the purpose of giving City Council a recommendation since everyone on the Council is already fully aware of Hampton’s waterway problems. o Fred Whitley responds: The Council wants to know the most important waterway problems from the committee’s and the public’s perspectives. • Floyd Gibbs: Reiterated that all of these problems have solutions. • Ken Dierks: Our upcoming educational series will give the Committee the tools to understand watershed issues. • Carole Garrison: Suggested speakers we will need for the educational sessions: o Specialist on wetlands o Someone from Norfolk’s waterways committee to brief us on their City’s model • Edith Newkirk: Asked if the Committee can be educated about the regulatory framework associated with waterways, permitting, etc. What are the jurisdictional issues and who regulates what? o Ken Dierks: Responded that the Committee will be provided with a basic overview of the regulatory framework governing work in water of the US and wetlands so they can understand how the regulations affect potential approaches to flooding and water quality. • Ken Dierks: Indicated that the Steering Committee would be provided with a mission statement so they can be clear on their job. Ken indicated based on discussions with the City that he understood the mission to be to identify specific public concerns related to drainage, flooding, shoreline erosion, navigation and water quality and to develop, in a final report, recommendations for specific policy changes and funding sources for City Council consideration and inclusion in the Community Plan. However, the support staff would consult with the City and develop a specific mission statement for dissemination to the Steering Committee as soon as possible.


ACTION ITEM Provide the Steering Committee with Goals and Mission Statement Provide Steering Committee with more information on their roles and expectations at the listening session Hire videographer for listening session Look into additional educational series speakers??


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Hampton Comprehensive Waterway Management Plan Steering Committee – Organizational Meeting



Ken Dierks Kimberly Holland Fred Whitley Todd Soloman Hugh Bassette Vince Behm Andy Bigelow Frank Blake Robin Carpenter Bob Croft Carole Garrison Floyd Gibbs Ernest Hale Edith Newkirk Perry Pilgrim Joe Stellute Woody Woodcock

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