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MD_Chat

Hello hello, and welcome to #MDchat everybody! If you're new, just know we don't bite - join or watch. So, let's start with introductions!
Tue Mar 1 18:00:08 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

Hi, everyone. Mark, family doc in #RVA, contributor to smhcop.wordpress.com, believer in social media as a way to better healthcare #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:01:11 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@doctorpreneur welcome to #mdchat Peds ID Fellow - originally from Cambridge, now in Syracuse NY. Nice to see another Limey here :-)
Tue Mar 1 18:01:19 PST 2011

FMDChat

Join us for Live Fibromuscular Dysplasia (FMD) Twitter Chat Scheduled for Thursday, March 3, 7pm CST #FMDChat #RNChat #MDChat
Tue Mar 1 18:01:41 PST 2011

doctorpreneur

@peds_id_doc Nice Bio: "You've got the bugs, we've got the drugs" #MDchat #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:03:06 PST 2011

nadimmahmud

Hello! Nadim, cofounder of @medic and 3rd year med student at Stanford #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:03:41 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@doctorpreneur #mdchat <bows>
Tue Mar 1 18:03:45 PST 2011

MD_chat

Good evening everyone! Nice to see! #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:05:08 PST 2011

doctorpreneur

@nadimmahmud @medic Medic Mobile looks interesting - are you texts or apps? #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:05:18 PST 2011

MD_Chat

OK, we'll start in a minute. We have two topics tonight, h/t @DaphneLeigh Batter up in a few seconds! Good luck! #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:06:18 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

#mdchat so who read the "auscultation" link? Thoughts on the Harvard approach, or the patient's impressions...?
Tue Mar 1 18:06:20 PST 2011

MD_chat

T1 Patient or Art Model? See http://nyti.ms/gTGAVd Do medical schools/residencies foster the best kind of listening skills? #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:06:52 PST 2011

nadimmahmud

@doctorpreneur mostly SMS but also EMR software and other tools. Expanding to apps in the US :) #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:07:26 PST 2011

apjonas

#mdchat Hi Pat Jonas, MD Holistic Family Physician, Ohio
Tue Mar 1 18:08:52 PST 2011

nadimmahmud

@peds_id_doc so important to hear the patient perspective- it's easy to get lost in the medicine and forget the big picture #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:09:47 PST 2011

MD_Chat

@apjonas Hi Pat. Welcome, we're discussing http://bit.ly/hwqQBr #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:10:10 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

#mdchat my impression is that this approach is long overdue. Would like to see more articles from pt perspective shared with students
Tue Mar 1 18:11:03 PST 2011

doctorpreneur

Enjoyed the article: http://bit.ly/hwqQBr teaching docs could have made patient feel more comfortable&encouraged students to do same #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:11:30 PST 2011

drseisenberg

Steven. Heme/Onc #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:12:05 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@doctorpreneur #mdchat this is part of the teaching tho...will make them better hopefully before they have to truly see pts on the wards
Tue Mar 1 18:13:02 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

Sorry--just read the article (briefly). Good points throughout. Connecting w/ pts in a human way is critical for care. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:13:19 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

T1 Each school has its own way of teaching listening skills; suspect some are better than others. We use standardized pts, ... #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:14:14 PST 2011

doctorpreneur

@peds_id_doc Difficulty with this example is that the patient they *learnt* on *WAS* a *real* patient too! #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:14:42 PST 2011

apjonas

#mdchat Residencies in family medicine do foster advanced listening skills. All have an opportunity to become whole enough to begin to help
Tue Mar 1 18:14:44 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

T1 ... small-group and one-on-one mentoring. But the human connection in medicine may fall behind the need to accumulate data. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:15:00 PST 2011

nadimmahmud

Most med schools have classes to focus on patient-physician interaction, but awkward scenarios as described in article very common #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:15:15 PST 2011

apjonas

#mdchat As Gladwell wrote in Outliers, it takes 12-15 yrs 2 B proficient in a profession. The new ears of a med student advance thru tng
Tue Mar 1 18:16:20 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@doctorpreneur #mdchat - true, but one just there to teach, not to be treated. They obviously had great insight into the whole topic.
Tue Mar 1 18:16:22 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

@peds_id_doc Eastern VA Medical School uses standardized pts--and videotapes the encounters for students to learn. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:16:49 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@RichmondDoc @doctorpreneur #mdchat me too - even if student not in room at the time. Pts often amused at the fact they can help teach.
Tue Mar 1 18:17:57 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

T1 So much of how we interact w/ patients is learned from mentors. Good mentors: good listeners. Bad mentors... #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:18:30 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@RichmondDoc #mdchat ideally students use SPs, videos, and instant re-runs to correct mistakes. Just like learning any another skill
Tue Mar 1 18:19:03 PST 2011

nadimmahmud

SPs were good for me, but transition to pseudo SPs w/ findings and training were most valuable b4 going onto wards #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:19:25 PST 2011

BloodCME

Perioperative hemostasis, #hematologic malignancies, #hemophilia and other blood factor disorders #MDchat http://bitly.com/hfSm1M
Tue Mar 1 18:20:05 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@RichmondDoc #mdchat is you attending "a great listener" to "builds rapport easily" or...
Tue Mar 1 18:20:18 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@RichmondDoc #mdchat someone who uses active listening, repetition, relaxed body language, eye contact, validation, acknowledgement...
Tue Mar 1 18:21:03 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

#mdchat - wow -way too many typos tonight. Either not enough coffee or way too much... :-S
Tue Mar 1 18:21:55 PST 2011

MD_chat

@peds_id_doc :0 #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:22:16 PST 2011

MD_chat

@peds_id_doc that was supposed to be ;) #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:22:45 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@MD_Chat #mdchat an ironic typo in response to typos...cute ;-)
Tue Mar 1 18:24:19 PST 2011

s_eller

T1 lurking here, we use SPs w/simulation to train med students in communication/listening video debriefing & feedback from SP #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:24:23 PST 2011

drseisenberg

Med students can learn that real listening is not just planning what to say next and waiting for your turn to talk. #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:24:37 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@drseisenberg #mdchat awesome point about "waiting your turn to talk". So, so true.
Tue Mar 1 18:26:03 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@s_eller #mdchat our program used to use delayed feedback - in the mail, days later. Fraking useless.
Tue Mar 1 18:26:45 PST 2011

apjonas

#mdchat All five senses involved in listening. Once stud is MD in work world, different listening needed w/upgrade of use of 5 senses +EARS
Tue Mar 1 18:27:36 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

@peds_id_doc @s_eller On-the spot feedback is key. Constructive review of how you did, right after you did it, is much stronger. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:28:13 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@RichmondDoc @s_eller #mdchat some programs need that pointed out to them tho...use SPs to teach, not to assess
Tue Mar 1 18:28:58 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

T1 2 truisms I use a lot: 90% of your diagnosis comes from the history; emphasizes the need for listening. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:31:07 PST 2011

s_eller

@RichmondDoc @peds_id_doc - agree real time constructive feedback is key #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:31:19 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

T1 similarly: If you let patients speak, they will tell you what you need to know. Again: important to listen. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:31:37 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@a_singledrop @astupple #mdchat many teachers do not think listening or other comm skills can be taught though :-/
Tue Mar 1 18:34:16 PST 2011

jsequoia

#MDchat has any one here set up a practice before?
Tue Mar 1 18:34:49 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

T1 for us, our Foundations of Clinical Medicine uses small groups, SPs and clinical

RichmondDoc

T1 for us, our Foundations of Clinical Medicine uses small groups, SPs and clinical preceptorships to teach listening/exam skills. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:34:53 PST 2011

astupple

@peds_id_doc: @a_singledrop @astupple But, we can teach acting... #mdchat many teachers do not think listening, comm skills can be taught
Tue Mar 1 18:36:25 PST 2011

MD_chat

T2 Physician Self-Branding: What are your feelings about branding yourself, or about others who brand? Good? Bad? Neutral? #MDchat
Tue Mar 1 18:36:38 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

T2 Not fond of branding myself, though I know those in private practice need to establish their brand to stay in business. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:38:09 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

T2 I would like to think that good docs earn their reputation by hard work, positive word of mouth, and good patient outcomes. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:39:50 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

@MD_Chat T2 So: maybe neutral/unfavorable. I think it can go too far: some celebrity doctors are excessive in my opinion. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:40:31 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@a_singledrop @astupple #mdchat all our students knew importance of openended Qs. In clinical exams very rarely used them right.
Tue Mar 1 18:46:37 PST 2011

a_singledrop

@peds_id_doc @astupple I am grateful that I have professors willing & able to devote their time to teaching us this critical skill. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:46:59 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

#mdchat T2 I branded. Myself as the local comm skills guy :-) never claimed to be the best communicator, only the most vocal about it.
Tue Mar 1 18:49:22 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@RichmondDoc #mdchat T2 I think branding is as much finding your niche as much as anything else. Sometimes it just sorta comes along.
Tue Mar 1 18:53:11 PST 2011

Kind4Kids

#mdchat For a clinical-educator-researcher, perhaps "branding" can mean developing an area of inquiry/study... clinical #meded or other
Tue Mar 1 18:54:10 PST 2011

a_singledrop

T2 from my exp in social media, branding is your accumulated reputation-it builds up from your actions regardless of your intentions #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:54:29 PST 2011

MD_chat

@RichmondDoc Good point. "Earned" brand, versus Paid or Manufactured. @peds_id_doc #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:54:34 PST 2011

cassiegangeri

#MDchat follow @BloodCME for the latest blood related continuing education and news article updates
Tue Mar 1 18:54:49 PST 2011

a_singledrop

@MD_chat @RichmondDoc #mdchat Agreed - the "earned" brand is always more authentic than the "manufactured" #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:55:14 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@a_singledrop #mdchat t2 I think so too, but after a while there is enough momentum to keep it rolling with a few nudges...
Tue Mar 1 18:55:16 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

@a_singledrop #mdchat T2 I went from "nice guy" to "resident teaching award" to "teaching innovator" - radio and advisory board followed :-)
Tue Mar 1 18:56:31 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

@a_singledrop @MD_chat @peds_id_doc Actions speak louder than words. The reputation you earn by hard work/diligence is priceless. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:57:14 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

#mdchat t2 I could have said "no" to radio interview and advisory board, but recognized the value of the momentum. Grand Rounds next week!
Tue Mar 1 18:58:02 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

@peds_id_doc From wandering along w/ these chats; I have 4 different social media talks--national conferences, regional stuff, etc. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:59:24 PST 2011

MDPartner

Popped in at the end to read an interesting #MDchat. Note to self: make time to participate next week.
Tue Mar 1 18:59:40 PST 2011

a_singledrop

.@RichmondDoc @MD_chat True. At the end of the day, I follow-through with my passions and that seems to work out just as well #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 18:59:44 PST 2011

peds_id_doc

#mdchat my pearl for the chat - comm skills are inherent to patient-centered care, and needed for 21st century medicine. teach them. #jfdi
Tue Mar 1 19:01:15 PST 2011

RichmondDoc

FT: The best reputation is being a caring, patient-focused, competent physician. Listen, communicate, and care. #mdchat
Tue Mar 1 19:01:35 PST 2011

RyanMadanickMD

#mdchat wishin I had known about it ahead of time
Tue Mar 1 19:02:00 PST 2011

a_singledrop

FT: I really wish that I took out the time to join #mdchat more often! Thanks everyone for the lovely discussion!
Tue Mar 1 19:02:47 PST 2011

RyanMadanickMD

@Kind4Kids #mdchat ur probably right, this may be the way that academics who focus on #meded but still do research can do well
Tue Mar 1 19:03:52 PST 2011

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