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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:47:00 +0300

From: Mary
Subject: Re: asio

on 1/11/01 2:56 PM, Heinrich H. Vogel at hvogel@tin.it wrote:

> James informed me lately that there is a chance , that he might
> re-introduce the direct digidesign hardware support there was in
> earlier ( pre ASIO ) SC versions .

That would be great. I work in a ProTools environment and it isn't
practical to change the hardware, nor do I want to. I use it with
SoundManager, or use the older versions. I'd love to be able to use it
directly with 3.0.

Mary

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:55:28 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: asio

shit a girl on the sc list!!!!
lets rape her...
> Mary
>
>
>

Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:06:53 +0300
From: Mary
Subject: Re: asio

What time warp band are you leaving in? Seriously, why create
polarization?

BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers.

Mary

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:21:55 +0300
From: "Heinrich H. Vogel"
Subject: Re: asio

eric_hard_jams wrote:

> shit a girl on the sc list!!!!
> lets rape her...
> > Mary
> >
> >
> >

i strongly advise you to reinstall a brandnew system after
having completely erased any of your data , because your computer is
actually
sending out messages that offend my late night peace .
sorry hairi

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 01:25:27 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: asio

> BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers.
>
that makes it better!

> Mary
>
>

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:53:33 +0300
From: Katharine Neil
Subject: RE: asio

shit, an offensive 14 yr old boy on the sc list!!!
let's set fire to his genitals...

I wouldn't wear that sense of humour out in public, boy.

Some mailing list advice for you:
When it's off the topic of audio synthesis, write [OT] in the subject line.
When it's revolting, offensive sexist or racist 'humour', hit the 'delete'
button in your mail client, then go away and have a think about it.

shit a girl on the sc list!!!!
lets rape her...
> Mary
>
>
>

Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:07:26 +0300
From: "Thomas Miley"
Subject: Re: asio

I hope so also, because the latencies or inefficiencies using an AMIII card
at 2.10 make it almost worthless (i.e. audio glitches at only ~ 20% cpu)

=tm=

- ----- From: Mary
Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: asio

> on 1/11/01 2:56 PM, Heinrich H. Vogel at hvogel@tin.it wrote:
>
> > James informed me lately that there is a chance , that he might
> > re-introduce the direct digidesign hardware support there was in
> > earlier ( pre ASIO ) SC versions .
>
>
>
> That would be great. I work in a ProTools environment and it isn't
> practical to change the hardware, nor do I want to. I use it with
> SoundManager, or use the older versions. I'd love to be able to use it
> directly with 3.0.
>
> Mary
>
>

Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:09:45 +0300
From: "Thomas Miley"
Subject: Re: asio

eric, you are an idiot...

- ----- From: eric_hard_jams
Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: asio

>
> > BTW, I'm a married mother of three teenagers.
> >
> that makes it better!
>
> > Mary
> >
> >
>

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:13:42 +0300
From: "Scott Wilson"
Subject: Re: asio

- ----- From: "eric_hard_jams"
Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: asio

> shit a girl on the sc list!!!!
> lets rape her...
> > Mary

Hey eric_flaccid_jams!

Would you print out this crap and mail it to each of us in a letter? Would
you say it when speaking to a large number of people, many of whom you don't
know, in a public place? No? Then why are you posting it to an email list?

I recommend waiting 24 hours before posting any emails. This will give you
time to consider what you're saying in a public forum. By the sounds of it
you might try this in your private conversation as well...

Scott
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:39:00 +0300
From: "Robert S. Newcomb"
Subject: Re: asio

I reported the same problem, perhaps a week before Paul did, but I did not
install ASIO drivers. This must be something very simple, yes? I have
been able to, contrary to SC's display info, at least have SC2 use AMIII
for output, but have yet to get it to see the card for input.

This situation occurs under OS9.0.4 on a Mac G4/Dual 450 AND a 7300/200.

On an 8500/132 under OS8.1 I had no problems. Is OS9 the problem?

On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Paul Lansky wrote:

> Date: Thu Jan 11 13:58:53 2001
> From: Paul Lansky
> Reply-To: sc-users@lists.io.com
> To: sc-users@lists.io.com
> Subject: asio
>
> Hi
> A few weeks ago a queried the group about why I was
> having trouble getting SC to recognize digidesign hardware
> after I had loaded the proper driver in the ASIO folder.
>
> Well, I tried everything that you all suggested. Thanks!
>
> But, sadly, still no go. My latest diagnosis is that the
> driver is not for the hardware we have, which is the Pro 24.
>
> Does anyone have any insights here?
>
> thanks
>
> paul lansky
>

Robert S. Newcomb
Director of Information Technology, School of Music
http://www.umich.edu/~rnewcomb/

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:06:28 +0300
From: Katharine Norman
Subject: Re: asio

>shit a girl on the sc list!!!!
>lets rape her...
>

Eric - you lack punctuation. And a brain.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:11:15 +0300
From: Andrei
Subject: how to subscribe ?

I forget, how does one subscribe/unsubscribe to/from this list ?

Andrei

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:08:11 +0300
From: Arie van Schutterhoef
Subject: Re: asio

>James informed me lately that there is a chance , that he might
>re-introduce the direct digidesign hardware support there was in
>earlier ( pre ASIO ) SC versions .
- -It would be nice if James re-installed all the drivers
he had previously written himself for the Korg 1212,
Motu 2048 end Sonorus I/O.
And make it an option to use his drivers for these
cards or asio.

AvS

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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:20:29 +0300
From: "David B. Gunn"
Subject: Re: asio

not funny...

d

It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
- -Voltaire (1694-1778)
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, eric_hard_jams wrote:

> shit a girl on the sc list!!!!
> lets rape her...
> > Mary
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:48:06 +0300
From: NiteHiss
Subject: just try to ignore eric...

it seems there's a "bug" on the list. after receiving a few obnoxious
messages from eric_hard(?)_jams (enough is enough), i managed to fix the
problem by simply adding a new rule to my copy of outlook express:

if [from]-[contains]-[eric_hard_jams]-[move message]-[deleted items]

it's painless and works fine. [strongly suggested to people who don't like
stupidity and think the best cure against it is actually...IGNORING it!!!].

first and LAST message on this particular subject.

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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:57:40 +0300
From: "Heinrich H. Vogel"
Subject: Re:[ot] asio

Katharine Neil wrote:

> Some mailing list advice for you:
> When it's off the topic of audio synthesis, write [OT] in the subject line.

unfortunately this goes to all of us , me first .
i quite like this thread , but it shouldn't go under the asio header
else the digest gets unreadable .

hairi

> When it's revolting, offensive sexist or racist 'humour', hit the 'delete'
> button in your mail client, then go away and have a think about it.
>
> shit a girl on the sc list!!!!
> lets rape her...
> > Mary
> >
> >
> >

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:23:44 +0300
From: "Lindon Parker"
Subject: Re: asio

>eric_hard_jams <eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com> wrote:Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001
>00:55:28 +0000
>
>shit a girl on the sc list!!!!
>lets rape her...
> > Mary
> >

Well done Eric you have managed to make the most stupid remark I have ever
seen on this list. You clown, this is not even slightly funny.

regards to everyone else, and apologies to Mary.

Lindon
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 03:31:55 +0300
From: Matthew Rogalsky
Subject: eric

Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin?

sad, innit...

m

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 05:07:30 +0300
From: christian adam hresko
Subject: Re: eric

Matthew Rogalsky wrote:

> Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin?
>
> sad, innit...
>
> m

sounds doubtful.

richard james' "humor" seems to be more in the vein of "making things
up." (like all the hardware he supposedly built, and the software he's
been writing for the past few years...)

cheers,

christian
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:05:15 +0300
From: andreas?berthling
Subject: Re: eric

maybe it's his evil-twin..

>Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin?
>
>sad, innit...
>
>m

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:19:27 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: eric

> From: andreas?berthling
> Reply-To: sc-users@lists.io.com
> Date: Sun Jan 14 14:05:15 2001
> To: sc-users@lists.io.com
> Subject: Re: eric
>
> maybe it's his evil-twin..
>
>> Is eric_hard_jams not Richard James, the aphex twin?
>>
>> sad, innit...
>>
>> m
>
im really sad :( almost as sad as you lot

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:00:19 +0300
From: NiteHiss
Subject: OT: aphex twin...

yeah but, as a matter of fact, he's one of the few artists out there
(together with autechre, 2 lone swordsmen, skam, and few others) who make
techno sound "interestingly not boring"...
whether he makes things up or not, the final result is much more relevant,
isn't it?
as this is just my personal opinion, criticism is more than welcome.

thanks christian and eric for the info on the computer music tutorial.

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>
> richard james' "humor" seems to be more in the vein of "making things
> up." (like all the hardware he supposedly built, and the software he's
> been writing for the past few years...)
>
> cheers,
>
> christian
>

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:15:44 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: OT:rape-idge

Hallaj,

World POPClock Projection

According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Bureau of the Census,
the total population of the World, projected to 1/14/01 at 21:00:13 GMT
(1/14/01 at 4:00:13 PM EST) is :

6,122,025,551

World Vital Events Per Time Unit: 2001

(Figures may not add to totals due to rounding)
- -------------------------------------------------
Natural
Time unit Births Deaths increase
- -------------------------------------------------
Year 131,571,719 55,001,289 76,570,430
Month 10,964,310 4,583,441 6,380,869
Day 360,470 150,688 209,782
Hour 15,020 6,279 8,741
Minute 250 105 146
Second 4.2 1.7 2.4
- -------------------------------------------------

eric
.

Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:17:33 +0300
From: andreas?berthling
Subject: Re: OT:rape-idge

not enough deaths lately?

/a

Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:25:41 +0300
From: Katharine Neil
Subject: RE: OT:rape-idge
Does this person seem absolutely unapologetic or what?
Like me, I think there must a number of women who need to be on this list
for professional/work reasons. If this person were posting on a company
mailing list he would probably be sacked.

Richard, I don't care if you're really Richard D. James or the reincarnation
of Liberace. Your anonymity in this forum doesn't give you license to act
like an arsehole and get away with it. You could be some sick pervert for
all we know - after all, you seem to be enjoying this negative attention,
rather than being at all sorry about it.

So either apologise to Mary and the rest of the list, or go away. At least
some indication that women can feel comfortable remaining on this list would
be nice.

Another thing that irritates me is that I have to waste my time and everyone
else's stating the obvious.

BTW: If you're advocating population control (below), don't expect us to
miss the irony in that.

- -----From: eric_hard_jams [mailto:eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com]
Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2001 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: OT:rape-idge

Hallaj,

World POPClock Projection

According to the International Programs Center, U.S. Bureau of the Census,
the total population of the World, projected to 1/14/01 at 21:00:13 GMT
(1/14/01 at 4:00:13 PM EST) is :

6,122,025,551

World Vital Events Per Time Unit: 2001

(Figures may not add to totals due to rounding)
- -------------------------------------------------
Natural
Time unit Births Deaths increase
- -------------------------------------------------
Year 131,571,719 55,001,289 76,570,430
Month 10,964,310 4,583,441 6,380,869
Day 360,470 150,688 209,782
Hour 15,020 6,279 8,741
Minute 250 105 146
Second 4.2 1.7 2.4
- -------------------------------------------------

eric
.
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:20:23 +0300
From: Gary Lee Nelson
Subject: RE: OT:rape-idge

I hope I speak for nearly all of the men on this list when I say that I was
shcked and offended by that rape posting. I agree that an apology is in
order.

As far as I am concerned there is no question that women are welcome and,
in fact needed here and in every discussion having to do with music and the
arts.

Some years ago I was asked to write a short comment on young women in music
technology for

http://music.dartmouth.edu/~wowem/

They were interested in my perspective as a teacher of music technology at
the undergraduate level over three decades. Here is what I wrote...

"There are not enough women in the technological arts but the ones there
are make
contributions far beyond their numbers. My experience with young women in
my
computer music and new media classes at Oberlin (including my own daughter
who
is now a professional in the field) tells me that, in the beginning, they
suffer
from the science and technology fear that our society and education system
forces on them. However, while the young man occupies himself with the
details
of version numbers and hardware/software features, the young woman focuses
on
expressive application of the tools and on drawing out her music from the
depths
of her being. At the end of four years she catches or surpasses the him in
technical expertise while he may still not have touched the core of the
art."

Cheers,
Gary

Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Conservatory of Music
Oberlin, OH 44074
office: 440-775-8223
home: 330-922-5958
fax: 440-775-8942
email: Gary.Nelson@oberlin.edu
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:43:49 +0300
From: Chad Kirby
Subject: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 at 13:25, Katharine Neil wrote:
> Does this person seem absolutely unapologetic or what?

Yes, he seems absolutely unapologetic: he is a troll who exists on this
list only to attract attention and reduce the S/N ratio.

The best type of public forum is one whose members all share a common topic
of interest and are polite and courteous and stick to relevant threads.
The SC list has been pretty good about this for awhile (with only
occasional exceptions). But as the number of subscribers increases, the
trolls invariably move in and they have to be dealt with somehow.

There are a couple of ways to deal with trolls in a useful community like
the SC list. In the most extreme case, we could decide to moderate the
list, which means that every post has to be read and approved by some
person or persons who will decide which posts to pass on to the list
subscribers. Moderated forums don't tend to have troll problems, but they
have a higher latency than unmoderated lists (if there's only one
moderator and she's asleep, no posts go thru til she wakes up), and then
someone has to come up with rules for what's acceptable and what's not,
and it is obviously a lot of work for the moderators. I don't think the SC
list needs to be moderated at this point.

Another thing to do is draft some rules for behavior on the list, and have
the list owner delete users who don't conform. But then we have to stop
talking about SC for a day, a week, or a month and talk about what the
rules should be. Then the list owner (James) has to become (or delegate
some ones to become) the list mom, who's charged with enforcing the code of
conduct and throwing miscreants out of the pool.

You, the list subscriber, however, can take matters into your own hands.
You can add Mr. _jams and others of his ilk to your kill file, or your
rules list or your filters. Use your mail program to remove posts from
known trolls before you ever see them. Most mail readers have the
capability to filter out pests, it's just a matter of figuring out how to
use those functions. If you don't know how to do it, ask the guy down the
hall who knows that stuff. If we all do this, they will get no response to
their deliberately offensive/moronic postings and they will eventually go
away (just like your mom always told you they would).

You can also complain to the offender's ISP. If any of you still have a
copy of Mr. _jams' 'let's rape her' post (with headers intact), you could
forward that to abuse@btinternet.com (his service provider). That post was
probably outside btinternet's Acceptable Use Policy for email. Maybe they
care, maybe they don't.

None of these methods are foolproof, although completely ignoring trolls
is usually fairly effective. And the best way to ignore a troll is to
filter out his posts before you ever see them. I have added one more
name to my kill file, and I suggest that everyone else who found Mr. _jams'
post completely out of line do likewise.

Chad Kirby // Technical Coordinator for Digital Arts // CARTAH
ckirby@u.washington.edu // 206.295.3592
________
A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly, science into
superstition, and art into pedantry. Hence University education.
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:07:10 +0300
From: Mary
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list
immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with
not feeding him any more negative attention.
I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If
you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out.

Mary

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:25:15 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

> Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list
> immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with
> not feeding him any more negative attention.
> I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If
> you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out.
>
> Mary
>
>
oh no!!! btinternet.com have just arrested me for laughing!!!
im going to get 10 years in fucking jail because of you .
:/

oh well ,its not too bad,apparently you can have laptops in jail ,so I can
tell you how im getting on,[once ive changed my post name of course]

how old were those teenagers Mary?

Proolchard.g.krayhmes

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:07:05 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: asio

> Would you print out this crap and mail it to each of us in a letter?
umm no.

Would
> you say it when speaking to a large number of people, many of whom you don't
> know, in a public place? No?

no,because I said ,shit a female on the 'LIST'
so it wouldnt make much sense would it?

Then why are you posting it to an email list?
>
you thought you knew what i was going to say to the last question.

> I recommend waiting 24 hours before posting any emails.

ok,thanks for the great tip!!
would 23 hours be ok?

This will give you
> time to consider what you're saying in a public forum.

.......23 hours later
oh right,thats amazing,I never thought of that.

By the sounds of it
> you might try this in your private conversation as well...

Oh cool,why do you know my friends and what they do/dont like to talk about
then?

ogwrtgj.j.jiammies

>

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:53:32 +0300
From: Andrei Smarandoiu
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, eric_hard_jams wrote:

> > Thank you Chad. I had put this prepsychotic fool on my filter list
> > immediately but hadn't known about how to report him. Agree totally with
> > not feeding him any more negative attention.
> > I forwarded a copy of his email immediately to his internet provider. If
> > you have any more suggestions like that I would be happy to carry them out.
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> oh no!!! btinternet.com have just arrested me for laughing!!!
> im going to get 10 years in fucking jail because of you .
> :/
>
> oh well ,its not too bad,apparently you can have laptops in jail ,so I can
> tell you how im getting on,[once ive changed my post name of course]
>
> how old were those teenagers Mary?
>
> Proolchard.g.krayhmes

Come on man, you're 30 years old and still acting like a damn adolescent !
OK, we get it, you're really irreverent. Now get on with it.
It was funny in Jockey Slut, not very funny here.

Why do you need SuperCollider anyway when you've created your own
programming language ? ;-)

Nica

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:02:12 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

>
> Come on man, you're 30 years old
and still acting like a damn adolescent !

people like telling each other what to do on this list,must be all the
teachers or something:)

you love it really I reckon.

> It was funny in Jockey Slut,...oh thanks.
ooh! bit of name dropping,youre cool arent you?

not very funny here.

I didnt know that humour was different in magazines and newsgroups,sorry.

> Why do you need SuperCollider anyway when you've created your own
> programming language ? ;-)

>ouch!!!well there is no point in doing that when youve got SC around which I
find totally amazing,prefer version 1 though.

I did make a synth program for a Sinclair ZX81 once though even though it
DIDNT have any sound capabilities and had a 1k memory.

I think you/they got it a bit wrong ,nope written over 600+ patches for sc1
though amongst other prgs,I was sorting them out recently,to show/impress
farmers manual some stuff.
and to try and persuade them to give me an Alberto DE campo patch that i
wanted to take apart? !)

is it ok Alberto,did they ask you yet?

ask James Mc ,he's seen some tasty ones a friend and me have been pissing
about with for the last 4 years.

theyre even better now James!!!

Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more
like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th
revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very
very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice
synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg
out there badly!,
hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1.
and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it
~~~smile~~~

I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider,I mean
for likkle fings that do this and that I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly
bang out stuff but I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to
create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few.
Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto?

Pritchard.d.jimjams

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:41:24 +0300
From: "Michael P. Whyte"
Subject: [OT]SC usage philosophy
> I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider,I mean
> for likkle fings that do this and that I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly
> bang out stuff but I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to
> create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few.
> Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto?

I've found that creating tracks in SC to be very nice, using Pbinds.
I have made "patterns" with multiple Pbinds inside a Ppar, or Ptpar.
Paying attention to the lengths, you can arrange the Ppars in a Pseq.
I have sequencable efx with Pfx, and as many of them as I require.
If the cpu load get's too much, I just write a soundfile and use that instead.
This latest remix is 800 lines now, but I expect it to become much larger as
the pbinds pile up. The only GUI's I use are for waveform editors, but I'd
like to be able to implement visual sequence editors and a pfx patcher so I
could do all this constructing in realtime, but I don't really care at this point.
It's so nice not to be limited in the amount of hardware I own for making
a track. SC provides much freedom. I could use another program
for soundfile arranging, but no plug-in's even come close to the things I can
do with SC, so I just leave it there. -besides, my iBook hates more than
24 tracks of audio -which isn't all THAT bad, but even then you can forget about
plug-ins.
I am still consistently amazed at how cool SC sounds, but moreso how efficient
and solid it is. I could never get MSP to make even the most basic drum
pattern from soundfiles without hiccuping.

- -m

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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:54:03 +0300
From: christian adam hresko
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

a dancing bears patch?

cheers,

christian

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:33:00 +0300
From: Andy Wilson
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

On 16/1/01 7:02 pm, "eric_hard_jams" <eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com> opined:
> Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more
> like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th
> revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very
> very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice
> synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg
> out there badly!,
> hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1.
> and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it
> ~~~smile~~~
Yeah, I've written something like that too, only mine's several times
better. I've been working on it for years - ever since I stopped having to
give my tutorials for the minimalists. Mo Tucker is recording new stuff
using it, but no one else is allowed to even see it.
I just heard that I've even been nominated for a nobel prize for some of
the algorithms I had to develop on the way, though the guys in Oslo only
know about my work through word of mouth and lists like this.
Actually, the hardest bit was producing an independent solution to
fermats theorem that was still compatible with my refutation of the private
language argument and some of the the techniques I developed for
overclocking my BBC Micro to 8 GHz, but luckily I found time out from work
to solve it using the money I got selling an installation to Charles Saatchi
for his private collection. Do you know, I'm thinking of possibly writing up
the experience as a book, but only when I've finished my critique of
Heidegger. Still, I should have <that> in the bag by the summer. Who knows,
one day I may find time to publish all this stuff. But not now.

love and kisses y'all

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{ www.andyw.com && www.faust-pages.com && www.directorxml.com }
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:53:49 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

> a dancing bears patch?
>
> cheers,
>
> christian
>
> umm.. no how about this its the only NON sound patch i've got,apart from a
tron game patch I posted here a long time ago,
looks pretty,
oh its SC 1 aswell of course.
let me know what ye think.

defaudioout L R;

var zss ox oy oz thX thY thZ;

init{

guiPort.setPort;

changeOR;

`startStop.dspStart;

}

startStop{

1.dspKill;

}

start{

}

C {arg r g b;

^newColor(r*64000,g*64000,b*64000)

}

changeOR{

zss=13.getItemValue;
thX=9.getItemValue;
thY=10.getItemValue;
thZ=11.getItemValue;
drawGraph

}
move3{arg i,x,y,z;

r=i.itemRect;
l=r.left;
t=r.top;
w=r.width- 1;
h=r.height- 1;
c=rot(x,y,0.5,0.5,thX);x=c@0;y=c@1;
c=rot(x,z,0.5,0.5,thY);x=c@0;z=c@1;
c=rot(y,z,0.5,0.5,thZ);y=c@0;z=c@1;
x=x*w;
y=y*h;
z=z*13.679+zss;
idx=1/(z/10+1);
x1=l+x;
y1=t+h-y;
x2=l+(0.5*w);
y2=t+h-(0.5*h);
x3=(x1*idx)+(x2*(1- idx));
y3=(y1*idx)+(y2*(1- idx));
ox=x3;
oy=y3;
oz=z;

}

line3{arg i,x,y,z;

r=i.itemRect;
l=r.left;
t=r.top;
w=r.width- 1;
h=r.height- 1;
c=rot(x,y,0.5,0.5,thX);x=c@0;y=c@1;
c=rot(x,z,0.5,0.5,thY);x=c@0;z=c@1;
c=rot(y,z,0.5,0.5,thZ);y=c@0;z=c@1;
x=x*w;
y=y*h;
z=z*13.679+zss;
idx=1/(z/10+1);
x1=l+x;
y1=t+h-y;
x2=l+(0.5*w);
y2=t+h-(0.5*h);
x3=(x1*idx)+(x2*(1- idx));
y3=(y1*idx)+(y2*(1- idx));
c=clip3(x3,y3,ox,oy,l,t,h,w);
if (c@2) then
moveTo(c@0,c@1);
c=clip3(ox,oy,x3,y3,l,t,h,w);
lineTo(c@0,c@1);
end.if
ox=x3;
oy=y3;
oz=z;

}
rot{arg a1,a2,b1,b2,th2;

r=((((b1-a1)**2).realPart)+(((b2-a2)**2).realPart))**0.5;
th=atan((b2-a2)/(b1-a1));
if ((b1-a1)>=0) then
th=(th)- �;
end.if
th=th+th2;
if r!=0 then
x=b1+(r*cos(th));
y=b2+(r*sin(th));
else
x=a1;
y=a2;
end.if
^[x,y];

}

clip3{arg x1,y1,x2,y2,l,t,h,w;
if ((y1.asInt)!=(y2.asInt)) then
y3=y2.clip(t,t+h);
x3=((y3-y1)*(x2-x1)/(y2-y1)+x1);
else
x3=x2.clip(l,l+w);
y3=y2;
end
if ((x1.asInt)!=(x3.asInt)) then
x4=x3.clip(l,l+w);
y4=(x4-x1)*(y3-y1)/(x3-x1)+y1
else
x4=x3;
y4=y3.clip(t,t+h);
end
x4=x4.clip(l,l+w);
y4=y4.clip(t,t+h);
^[x4,y4,1];
}

drawGraph{

i=1;
r=i.itemRect;
l=r.left;
t=r.top;
w=r.width- 1;
h=r.height- 1;

C(0,0,0).backColor;
C(0,1,0).foreColor;
r.eraseRect;

xm=5.getItemValue;
ym=6.getItemValue;
zm=7.getItemValue;
dp=8.getItemValue;

x=0;
x1=(x/xm).sin+1/2;
y1=(x+�/ym).sin+1/2;
z1=(x/zm).sin+1/2;
i.move3(x1,y1,z1);

for x=0;x<dp;x=x+1 do
x1=(x/xm).sin+1/2;
y1=(x+�/ym).sin+1/2;
z1=(x/zm).sin+1/2;
ci=(x1).map(0,1,0.3,1);
ci=(y1).map(0,1,0.3,1);
ci=(z1).map(0,1,0.3,1);
C(x1,y1,z1).foreColor;
i.line3(x1,y1,z1);
end.for

}
eric
:)

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:56:00 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

I've finished my critique of
> Heidegger. Still, I should have <that> in the bag by the summer. Who knows,
> one day I may find time to publish all this stuff. But not now.
>
> love and kisses y'all
>
so i take it you dont want me to email the patch to you then?
eric
!)

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:34:17 +0300
From: "Heinrich H. Vogel"
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

Andy Wilson wrote:

> On 16/1/01 7:02 pm, "eric_hard_jams" <eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com> opined:
> > Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more
> > like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th
> > revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very
> > very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice
> > synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg
> > out there badly!,
> > hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1.
> > and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it
> > ~~~smile~~~
>
> Yeah, I've written something like that too, only mine's several times
> better. I've been working on it for years - ever since I stopped having to
> give my tutorials for the minimalists. Mo Tucker is recording new stuff
> using it, but no one else is allowed to even see it.
> I just heard that I've even been nominated for a nobel prize for some of
> the algorithms I had to develop on the way, though the guys in Oslo only
> know about my work through word of mouth and lists like this.
> Actually, the hardest bit was producing an independent solution to
> fermats theorem that was still compatible with my refutation of the private
> language argument and some of the the techniques I developed for
> overclocking my BBC Micro to 8 GHz, but luckily I found time out from work
> to solve it using the money I got selling an installation to Charles Saatchi
> for his private collection. Do you know, I'm thinking of possibly writing up
> the experience as a book, but only when I've finished my critique of
> Heidegger. Still, I should have <that> in the bag by the summer. Who knows,
> one day I may find time to publish all this stuff. But not now.
>
> love and kisses y'all
>
> .<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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>
> { andy wilson << managing director << LShift << www.lshift.net }
> { www.andyw.com && www.faust-pages.com && www.directorxml.com }

same for me hairi

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:03:14 +0300
From: "Heinrich H. Vogel"
Subject: huge projects

eric_hard_jams wrote:

>
> Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more
> like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th
> revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very
> very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice
> synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg
> out there badly!,
> hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1.

never looked any different to me .

> and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it
> ~~~smile~~~

if it exists , and if you know where to get sc1 from , i be glad to hear and see
more
about what you describe above . i am particularly interested in the conceptual
aspects .

> I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider,

i did a patchable modular do it all thing i call the SWARK , which is both
amazing and ridiculous .
it's sc 2 , 80 or so modules , version 26 today and never stays still ,
badly documented and probably generally rather hard to understand , but
works fine for me .
the code is my first attemt and clearly shows that i didn't bother to read all
the documentation
or had a clue about oop at all .
i am now preparing to do better in SC3 .

> I mean
> for likkle fings that do this and that

> I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly
> bang out stuff but

i never . i rather be silent .

> I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to
> create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few.
> Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto?
>
> Pritchard.d.jimjams

whoever is interested in the SWARK26 library as it is with no guarantee and
lousy docu
can send his email to me . it's about 0.5 mega
i am sure not to be the only one to have spent thought over music generation
enviiroonments
or may ever one may call more flexible applications in which the process of
configuration
and setting is the actual composition to a large extent .

i wonder if theres anybody out there who wants to do some joint wondering about
more
general issues such as scaling , mathematical data and musical data , patching
strategies ,
interface feel or politics .....

Hairi

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:10:32 +0300
From: Katharine Neil
Subject: RE: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

Woohoo! ....I'm impressed, Richard. Gosh I feel so privileged and in awe - I
didn't realise that we were humbled by the presence of ................. yes
that's right - not simply an idiot, but an actual idiot savant! And I have
to say I much prefer the style of humour you were getting into at the end
there - hmmmm yeah...you could really go somewhere with that.

You've got to admire this guy's talent for jerking off in public...;)

PS: My old mum always told me that the best way to get a bully off your
patch was to get some mates together and give him a good kicking...but maybe
I'm old-fashioned?

- -----From: eric_hard_jams [mailto:eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com]
Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2001 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

>
> Come on man, you're 30 years old
and still acting like a damn adolescent !

people like telling each other what to do on this list,must be all the
teachers or something:)

you love it really I reckon.

> It was funny in Jockey Slut,...oh thanks.
ooh! bit of name dropping,youre cool arent you?

not very funny here.

I didnt know that humour was different in magazines and newsgroups,sorry.

> Why do you need SuperCollider anyway when you've created your own
> programming language ? ;-)
>ouch!!!well there is no point in doing that when youve got SC around which
I
find totally amazing,prefer version 1 though.

I did make a synth program for a Sinclair ZX81 once though even though it
DIDNT have any sound capabilities and had a 1k memory.

I think you/they got it a bit wrong ,nope written over 600+ patches for sc1
though amongst other prgs,I was sorting them out recently,to show/impress
farmers manual some stuff.
and to try and persuade them to give me an Alberto DE campo patch that i
wanted to take apart? !)

is it ok Alberto,did they ask you yet?

ask James Mc ,he's seen some tasty ones a friend and me have been pissing
about with for the last 4 years.

theyre even better now James!!!

Ive got this one patch for sc1 ,well I call it a patch but it really is more
like a complete composition/track writing environment in its 24th
revision!,sort of a cross between a tracker/CDP by trev wishart/Koan/very
very sorted waveform editor unlike anything else/sample manager/voice
synth/LPC stuff and shed loads of other things ,pisses over every other prg
out there badly!,
hehehe makes things like reason look like a casio sk1.
and no I havnt released anything using it ,too much fun playing with it
~~~smile~~~

I often wondered why you dont see more BIG patches for supercollider,I mean
for likkle fings that do this and that I prefer MSP or reaktor to quickly
bang out stuff but I always thought the point of using a prg like SC was to
create your own environments that do multiple things, not just a few.
Anyone here done anything like that,apart from ALberto?

Pritchard.d.jimjams

Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:45:33 +0300
From: Mary
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

not simply an idiot, but an actual idiot savant!

Probably he is on the Asperger Autism spectrum. I don't sense that he is
very capable of learning by reflection which is why I haven't said much. In
truth we have all probably learned much more about Eric's vulnerabilities
and insecurities around his creativity than he is learning from us.

Mary

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:58:45 +0300
From: christian adam hresko
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

wow, i didn't realize this until just now. i'm a bit slow...
eric hard jams

remove the e

richard jams

insert the e

richard james

hehe...

whether or not this is actually richard james, that's pretty cool.

but maybe i'm easily amused.

cheers,

christian

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:30:28 +0300
From: Andy Wilson
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

On 16/1/01 8:56 pm, "eric_hard_jams" <eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com> opined:
> so i take it you dont want me to email the patch to you then?
> eric

can't wait. we'll swap.
;)

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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:46:32 +0300
From: "Heinrich H. Vogel"
Subject: Re: [OT] Don't feed the trolls

Katharine Neil wrote:

> PS: My old mum always told me that the best way to get a bully off your
> patch was to get some mates together and give him a good kicking...but maybe
> I'm old-fashioned?

which for me equals out exactly to erics original propositionn , ie :
get togheter cowards and have a violent go at some outsider .

compliments .
now back to ssound things .

hairi

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:49:48 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re:[ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio .

Hallaj,
Just thought that you ought to know ,in Cornwall, UK where Im from ,rapeseed
is grown in huge abundance all over the place, its one of the most valuable
resources now after the Tin mines all shut down some years ago.
It is also customary in Cornwall like many other weird things when you havnt
seen a girl for a long time for men [originally fishermen when they came
back from long trips] to smother rape [pretty little yellow flowers!]all
over a Female ,not many people do it obviously but you can see men/young
boys doing just that in a place called Helston on 'flora day' which is held
every year there and has loads of traditional dancing/music etc.

eric,

[not aphex twin im afraid [*blush*],if only! he used to live not far away
from me though, just a fan hence the email address]

Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:28:33 +0300
From: NiteHiss
Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio .

on 17/1/01 10:49 pm, eric_hard_jams at eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com
apparently typed:

> ,not many people do it obviously but you can see men/young
> boys doing just that in a place called Helston on 'flora day' which is held
> every year there and has loads of traditional dancing/music etc.

yeah, i know about that...
i still remember your mom. she was great on that day!!!
good nite son.

you know, boy, i happen to be famous now, boy. please, boy, do not cry now.
dad will be back one day. mom's gone now, boy. however, i still remember her
last words... - "eric suffers from assholism, you know. that's very obvious
indeed my love (yes, your mom loved me, boy). in any case, my man, please
make sure he won't join the sc-list...he'll never be ready for the real
world... " -
now, boy, i feel like my fame made me a very bad father. please, boy, never
forget that magic day in helston, on flora day. if you happen to know latin
(oops...), you'll understand that those flowers were put there to celebrate
your birth, boy.

finally, boy, do not worry about your impotence. that's normal on a flora
day...(if only your mom could explain you...). being _hard doesn't make it
any harder, you know.

now, boy, try not to forget your mom's words...she was very wise indeed. not
a saint though...(i'm a 26 centimetres, boy.).
do you really want to become the most insignificant clown on this list. she
won't be happy, boy.

- --<space><return>

<h-i-s-s-9-9-9>
c+o+m+m+i+t+n+i+t+e+h+i+s+s
===========================
e hiss999@dircon.co.uk
:(

===========================

Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:42:55 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: [ OT ]boredom

<h-i-s-s-9-9-9>
> do you really want to become the most insignificant clown on this list. she
> won't be happy, boy.

no,you just did, that really was awful.

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:50:00 +0300
From: James McCartney
Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio .

NiteHiss at hiss999@dircon.co.uk wrote:

> yeah, i know about that...

NiteHiss at hiss999@dircon.co.uk ONCE wrote:

> [strongly suggested to people who don't like
> stupidity and think the best cure against it is actually...IGNORING it!!!].
>
> first and LAST message on this particular subject.

Guess you couldn't help yourself..

Now everyone please get past this episode and get back on topic. I know you
can do it. Yes it was stupid. It's over.

- --- james mccartney james@audiosynth.com <http://www.audiosynth.com>
SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac.
<ftp://www.audiosynth.com/pub/updates/SC2.2.10.sea.hqx>

Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:09:22 +0300
From: NiteHiss
Subject: Re: [ OT ]boredom

> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

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on 18/1/01 2:42 am, eric_hard_jams at eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com
apparently typed:

> <h-i-s-s-9-9-9>
>> do you really want to become the most insignificant clown on this list. she
>> won't be happy, boy.
>
> no,you just did, that really was awful.
>
awful: extremely bad or unpleasant: terrible : an awful accident,
experience, shock, etc.
e.g. my dad's awful. that flora day was awful. etc.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:12:50 +0300
From: NiteHiss
Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio .

on 18/1/01 2:50 am, James McCartney at asynth@io.com apparently typed:

> NiteHiss at hiss999@dircon.co.uk wrote:
>
>> yeah, i know about that...
>
> NiteHiss at hiss999@dircon.co.uk ONCE wrote:
>
>> [strongly suggested to people who don't like
>> stupidity and think the best cure against it is actually...IGNORING it!!!].
>>
>> first and LAST message on this particular subject.
>
> Guess you couldn't help yourself..
>
> Now everyone please get past this episode and get back on topic. I know you
> can do it. Yes it was stupid. It's over.
>
> --- james mccartney james@audiosynth.com <http://www.audiosynth.com>
> SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac.
> <ftp://www.audiosynth.com/pub/updates/SC2.2.10.sea.hqx>
>
>
ok boss. i'm really sorry. back to normal now. much better.
my apologies.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:18:14 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio .

> ok boss. i'm really sorry. back to normal now. much better.
> my apologies.
>
ass licker.

Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:20:06 +0300
From: James McCartney
Subject: Re: [ OT ]very low signal to noise ratio .

on 1/17/01 9:18 PM, eric_hard_jams at eric_hard_jams@btinternet.com wrote:

>
>> ok boss. i'm really sorry. back to normal now. much better.
>> my apologies.
>>
> ass licker.
>

shut the F up already, richard.

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SuperCollider - a real time synthesis programming language for the PowerMac.
<ftp://www.audiosynth.com/pub/updates/SC2.2.10.sea.hqx>

Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:33:38 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: [ OT ]taylor dayne remix

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> shut the F up already, richard.
>
ooh touchy!thought you were ignoring me:)

did you dig out sc1 and try that graphics patch james ,I reckon you would
get into it.

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&gt; shut the F up already, richard.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:43:47 +0300
From: christian adam hresko
Subject: Re: [ OT ]taylor dayne remix

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eric_hard_jams wrote:

>
> > shut the F up already, richard.
> >
> ooh touchy!thought you were ignoring me:)
>
> did you dig out sc1 and try that graphics patch james ,I reckon you
> would get into it.

is sc1 available anywhere?

as bizarre as this may sound, i actually like the older syntax. (at
least judging from the patch richard posted...)

cheers,

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:30:22 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: [ OT ]taylor dayne remix

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as bizarre as this may sound, i actually like the older syntax. (at least
judging from the patch richard posted...)

why is it bizarre?
just cuz its older dont mean it aint better.
it is indeed slower but that usually means that you end up being more
imaginative wiv yer code'n'stuff.

eg ,I used to run out of variable space with huge patches and then started
writing/reading data to sound files to free up memory also incorporating
those data files as instruments in their own right whose sound changed as
the data witihin them changed,quite decent concept i reckon.

oh and james you shut the F up

eric

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why is it bizarre?<BR>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:15:51 +0300
From: NiteHiss
Subject: OT: alter ego???

according to some mail i've recently received, some of you guys on the list
think that eric is me and i am eric...the same person, you know. please,
leave psychology to psychologists, will you?

you know guys, you must have been watching "fight club" too many times,
mustn't you. or was it "lost highway"? excellent movies though...

eric's got a much more developed sense of humour as well as a much better
english.

about my identity:
some people call me alex. some other chaps call me niggy stardust (because
of nite, you see). however, when i go out clubbing they all call
me...xushiana.
i was baptized a different name though. however, i'm not catholic at all.

you lot have fun now. you deserve it.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:22:34 +0300
From: Joachim Gossmann
Subject: Re: OT: alter ego???

...it's alright a long as you're not HER

Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:16:00 +0300
From: pscart@efortress.com (Peter Scartahello)
Subject: Re: OT: alter ego???

You are a trendy Moron who doesn't deserve to use SuperCollider!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:03:56 +0300
From: eric_hard_jams
Subject: Re: OT: alter ego???

> From: pscart@efortress.com (Peter Scartahello)
> Reply-To: sc-users@lists.io.com
> Date: Fri Jan 19 15:16:00 2001
> To: sc-users@lists.io.com
> Subject: Re: OT: alter ego???
>
> You are a trendy Moron
how dya figure trendy?
who doesn't deserve to use SuperCollider!!!!!!
>
>
why is that then?
eric

Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:17:27 +0300
From: rkuivila@mail.wesleyan.edu (Ron Kuivila)
Subject: Re: OT

Hi all,

Could we call a one week moratorium on off topic messages to this list?
The OT traffic level is reaching a ridiculous level.

RJK

PS Or perhaps we should ask James to set up a secondary list with the address

ot-sc@lists.io.com

Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:28:53 +0300
From: NiteHiss
Subject: Re: OT: alter ego???

on 19/1/01 8:16 pm, Peter Scartahello at pscart@efortress.com apparently
typed:

> You are a trendy Moron who doesn't deserve to use SuperCollider!!!!!!
>
what are the criteria for deciding who deserves to use a certain piece of
software?

...according to some mail i've recently received...
as far as i know, you've never sent me any personal mail. why is it you're
replying to my message? i don't see the point...

finally, i did not want to be aggressive. where does your rage come from?

all the best

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