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What is kundalini? "Kundalini" literally means coiling, like a snake. In the classical literature of hatha yoga kundalini is described as a coiled serpent at the base of the spine. The image of coiling, like a spring, conveys the sense of untapped potential energy. Perhaps more meaningfully kundalini can be described as a great reservoir of creative energy at the base of the spine. It's not useful to sit with our consciousness fixed in our head and think of kundalini as a foreign force running up and down our spine. Unfortunately the serpent image may serve to accentuate this alien nature of the image. It's more useful to think of kundalini energy as the very foundation of our consciousness so that when kundalini moves through our bodies our consciousness necessarily changes with it. The concept of kundalini can also be examined from a strictly psychological perspective. From this perspective kundalini can be thought of as a rich source of psychic or libidinous energy in our unconscious. In the classical literature of Kashmir Shivaism kundalini is described in three different manifestions. The first of these is as the universal energy or para-kundalini. The second of these is as the energizing function of the body-mind complex or prana-kundalini. The third of these is as consciousness or shakti-kundalini which simultaneously subsumes and intermediates between these two. Ultimately these three forms are the same but understanding these three different forms will help to understand the differerent manifestations of kundalini. What is the difference between prana and kundalini? What is the difference between qi (or chi) and kundalini? First let us try to relate to concepts from the same tradition - prana and kundalini. Prana has been translated as the "vital breath" and "bio-energetic motility"; it is associated with maintaining the functioning of the mind and body. Kundalini, in its form as prana-kundalini, is identical to prana ; however, Kundalini also has a manifestations as consciousness and a as a unifying cosmic energy. One could ascribe these same aspects to prana as well so past a certain point these become distinctions without differences. From the subjective standpoint of an individual actually experiencing the awakening of kundalini I have found three completely different opinions: The first opinion is that a pranic awakening is only a prelude to a full kundalini awakening. Tibetan yogins that I have encountered consider the activation of prana (Tibetan: rlung) as merely a prerequisite for the activation of kundalini (Tibetan: gTummo). What's attractive about this viewpoint is that it explains the difference between the experience of simply having pleasant sensations in the spine and the much more powerful experience of having a "freight-train"-like full kundalini experience. The second opinion, espoused by Swami Shivom Tirth for example, is that prana and kundalini are absolutely equivalent and that it is not meaningful in any way to describe a difference between kundalini rising and prana rising. When posed with question as to how to distinguish between pleasant sensations that show some pranic-activity in the spine and the much more powerful experience Swami Shivom Tirth said that the difference is not in the nature of the activity but in the consciousness that observes it. If the consciousness that experiences the pranic activity is seated within the spine (or more correctly, the central channel, known as the sushumna), then the experience is felt much more powerfully. The third opinion, espoused by the modern hatha yogin, Desikaran, is that pranic awakening is the true experience to be aimed for and kundalini is actually an obstruction. Desikaran sees the kundalini as a block in the central channel and thus the kundalini must be ``killed\'\' to make way for the prana. This is the most unusual view of the three. The Chinese concept of qi (or chi) can be safely identified with the Indian concept of prana.
If all this seems confusing - don't worry, you're in good company. My conclusion is that these are all different terminologies for dealing with a common set of experiences. Any one of these viewpoints is adequate for describing the full range of experiences. What is probably more relevant is to distinguish two different experiences which are often confused. In one an individual experiences some pleasant energizing electric energy running along the spine. This experience itself brings about a wide range of experiences and results in vitality and sensitivity. Another very distinct experience is the experience of kundalini entering the sushumna and rising up the spine. As soon as kundalini enters the sushumna this experience will completely overwhelm ordinary waking consciousness. From the moment that kundalini enters the sushumna there will no longer be a distrinction between the subjective consciousness which experiences and the object of experience. This experience much more profoundly transfigures consciousness. If kundalini is universal, why do some kundalini yogins seem to have more kundalini-energy than others? It\'s an intriguing question. If an individual's kundalini is viewed as simply a personal reservoir of a cosmic energy then why would one person appear to have more of a reservoir of kundalini energy than another? Nevertheless, this does appear to be the case. This is probably another advantage of the viewpoint that prana (or qi) is the same as kundalini. Some Chinese texts distinguish between "innate qi" or "pre-natal qi" that one is born with and "cultivated qi" that can be developed. Clearly some people simply have more "innate qi." This manifests as a stronger more resilient body and greater general vitality. Through training those that have relatively weak "innate qi" may surpass those who have strong "innate qi" but do not train. There are many stories in the Chinese literature of Qi Gong about people who took up Qi Gong in order to improve their poor health became powerful martial artists or great qi gong masters. Of course those that have strong "innate qi" and also train their qi may develop the strongest qi of all. What does kundalini have to do with spiritual enlightenment? What is the goal of kundalini yoga? First we need a few concepts: In yogic anatomy the sushumna is the central channel and conduit for the kundalini energy that runs along our spine and up to the crown of our head. Along this channel are placed additional channel networks called cakras. These cakras are associated with major aspects of our anatomy - for example our throat, heart, solar plexus, and in turn these aspects of our anatomy are related to aspects of our human nature. According to the literature of kundalini yoga our experience of these centers is limited due to knots which restrict the flow of energy into these centers. Three knots are particularly important. The knot of Brahma which restricts the center at the base of the spine. The knot of Vishnu which restricts the heart center and the knot of Rudra which restricts the center between the eyebrows. These knots form an important framework in yogic thinking and the stages toward enlightenment are articulated in terms of breaking through these knots in the yogic classic the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as well as in some of the yoga upanishads. Specifically, four stages of progress are described: arambha ghata parichaya nishpatti Arambha is associated with breaking the knot of Brahma and the awakening of kundalini. Ghata is associated with breaking the knot of Vishnu and and with internal absorption. Parichaya the absorption deepens and in nishpatti the knot of Rudra is pierced and the kundalini may ascend to the center at the crown of the head. In this state transcendence is integrated and, according to the yogic liteature, the yogi has nothing more to attain. Putting these elaborate physiological decriptions aside, the goal of kundalini yoga is the same as the goal of any legimitate spiritual practice: To be liberated from the limited bounds of the self-centered and alienated ego. In kundalini yoga this is associated with internal manifestations of the kundalini but the external manifestations should be similar to any other legitiimate spiritual practice. So does everyone agree that kundalini awakening is necessary for enlightenment?
Kundalini may evoke a wide variety of experiences but these are not in and of themselves enlightening. In this model experiences are associated with parts of the body. As far as I understand his position. For Gurjieff kundalini is associated only with a binding force that leads us to be more attached to the world. such as Jiyu Kennet. there are many other spiritual practices. Dissent can take a number of different forms. k. Can I use kundalini yoga simply to improve my health? Yoga exercises which were traditionally used to purify the body in preparation for awakening the kundalini can also be used simply to improve the health. This is an interesting perspective but it seems to assume that the raising of kundalini is an experience in which an ego-consciousness experiences a separate object known as kundalini. a. Vipassana meditation that consider kundalini irrelevant. I would argue that as kundalini rises the ego-consciousness becomes infused in a more fundamental consciousness of cit-shakti-kundalini and this experience does in fact produce a fundamental cognitive change. However. From a practical perspective the key thing is our subjective experience and that the roadmap of these subjective experiences has been mapped out. There is certainly nothing wrong with trying to improve your health but there is a tension between awakening an energy that will ultimately burn up the ego and trying to shape that energy to simply fulfill an egooriented motive. This is how hatha yoga has been taught in the west for some time. Paramahamsa Yogananda and Swami Vivekananda and of course by contemporary kundalini yogins themselves. Again. But it\'s important to understand that kundalini and its network of channels and cakras is simply how yogins have chosen to explain their experience and that yogins from many cultures have arrived at similar. it is a cognitive transformation. though not identical. may have kundalini experiences but generally kundalini is not a pivotal part of these paths. Da Love Ananda) has a much more fundamental criticism of kundalini.motion in the brain. To practice techniques aimed at actively awakening kundalini with the goal of simply improving your health seems to be a misuse of these powerful techniques. You will find similar views in many Buddhist Tantric works. concepts. because the part of the brain associated with that part of the body is stimulated by micro-vibrations. Izaak Benthov has proposed a model to explain kundalini in terms of micro. There is no compelling work to show that the system represents insights into actual human anatomy. Swami Sivananda. such as the heart. a. His model is treated in "The Kundalini Experience" by Sannella referenced below. For Sri Chinmoy kundalini is an amplifying function that may make an individual more powerful but not more enlightened. In addition this view is held by recent spiritual figures such as Shri Ramakrishna. Some practitioners or even teachers of these paths. The affect of this approach depends on the attitude of the student.The view that kundalini awakening is necessary for enlightenment is held in the diverse literature of Kashmir Shaivism and in other Hindu Tantric literature. Da Free John (born Franklin Jones. Is Chinese qi gong a kind of kundalini yoga? . There are those that teach kundalini yoga principally emphasizing its benefits on health without much discussion of the spiritual benefits. From my perspective this also only addresses the impact of kundalini while it operates in the lower energy centers. Such a view of kundalini is not entirely inaccurate but only reflects the functioning of kundalini in the lower energy centers. These include Sri Chinmoy. Da Free John and Gurdjieff. such as Zen. The true physical mechanisms underlying these experiences may be very different from those described. Finally. for him enlightenment cannot be the result of an experience. this view is consistent with the experience of kundalini in the lower energy centers in which the ego is detached from the movement of kundalini and kundalini experiences are precieved as separate from oneself. Nevertheless there are some dissenters from this view. It is found in the literature of the Hatha Yogis and the Nath Sampradaya. Is there any scientific basis for kundalini and the cakras? Do I really have to believe that all these cakras physically exist? Research on kundalini is especially spotty.
In my limited experience I would agree. One approach requires initiation by a guru and relies upon a technique called shaktipat. Kundalini yoga practices formed the core of the teachings of a number of these Mahasiddhas and are strongly represented in both Tibetan Buddhist practices and contemporary kundalini yoga practices. so open in their exposition of the techniques and so it is hard to judge the depth of understanding latent in these traditions. with this assertion. Qabalistic mysticism. Fundamentally the approach of Siddha Mahayoga and the Kundalini Yogas are different. From my limited exposure to qi gong it is clear there are many qi gong practices that are identical to kundalini yoga practices. The styles using intentional techniques include Mantra Yoga. as opposed to the grace of the guru. in siddha mahayoga. So how do I awaken kundalini? Indirectly kundalini can be awakened by devotion. or "descent of shakti. by selfless service. What is also clear is that may qi gong practitioners have reported experiences that are identical to those of kundalini yogins. in kundalini yogas. In terms of actually awakening kundalini gurus of Siddha Mahayoga claim that the kundalini is more easily and reliably awakened by the grace of the guru than by individual effort. In Kundalini Yogas the will is used to awaken the kundalini and to guide its progress. Candali yoga was a key practice of the famous Tibetan yogin Milarepa. at least at one time." It is variously called: Siddha Mahayoga. As a result it is hard to compare kundalini yoga to qi gong. These approaches are treated in the Siddha Mahayoga FAQ. Christianity (especially Quakerism and Pentecostalism). Nevertheless.If there is any contemporary teaching that is even more diverse in approach than kundalini yoga it must be qi gong. Nevertheless. individuals on these paths will experience a sudden awakening of kundalini but generally because the blocks are slowly and gently removed kundalini-like experiences evolve slowly in these paths. In Siddha Mahayoga the guru awakens the kundalini and after that the core of the practice is the inactive and non-willful surrender to kundalini. Laya Yoga or Kriya Yoga.has kundalini been known in Tibet? Kundalini yoga in the Natha Sampradaya and Vajrayana in Tibetan Buddhism both take their origin from the Mahasiddhas who were active in India from the 8th century to the 12th century. On the other hand gurus in Kundalini Yoga may give infusions of shakti to their students to help them at particular points in their practice. Siddha Mahayogins may use asanas. While not every long-term student of either practice necessarily shows signs of kundalini awakening it is amazing how many people have had instant awakenings of kundalini through initiation from siddha gurus. the imagery is so unmistakable in these traditions that each must have. In terms of encountering difficulties along the path the siddha gurus would also claim that fewer problems due to kundalini awakening. In these paths the blocks to the awakening of kundalini are slowly removed. to this author's awareness. Sufism. The role of kundalini yoga in Tibetan Buddhism is discussed in more detail in the Kundalini Yogas FAQ. What about Tibetan Buddhism . elements of the each approach occur in the practices of the other. Kundalini yoga was spoken of as "Candali yoga" by these Mahasiddhas and became known as gTummo rnal 'byor in Tibet. to awaken kundalini? Since every practitioner brings his own unique inclinations and obstacles to the practice of yoga it is very hard to generalize on this point. Are there any other traditions that show awareness of kundalini? If you believe that kundalini is at the basis of spiritual progress then every valid spiritual tradition must have some awareness of kundalini. Kundalini Mahayoga or Sahaja Yoga (Spontaneous Yoga). Hatha Yoga. are encountered by students of . Clearly these are different approaches. In so far as each of these practices aims at eliminating blocks to the qi/prana energy then they share a common ground. Occasionally. pranayamas and other hatha yoga practices. These approaches are treated in the Kundalini Yogas FAQ . The other approach uses intentional yogic techniques . alchemy and magick all have literature which demonstrates some awareness of the kundalini process but these traditions are not. Broadly speaking there are two radically different direct approaches to awakening kundalini. What are the advantages and disadvantages of using effort. been conversant with the movement of kundalini. or by intellectual enquiry. such as mental imbalance.
particularly sexual scandals. The strength of Siddha Mahayoga is the ease with which it awakens the kundalini. have strong initial experiences and then become frightened. Generally speaking each style of practice has its strengths and weakness. vocal signs and physical signs. Time is spent instead to trying to recreate some of their initial experiences by following the guru around hoping for his or her grace Some people spend 20 or more years in this manner without ever developing an inner core of practice or experience. Even in the best of circumstances this is likely to be uncomfortable and if an individual is barely coping with his unconscious even under normal circumstances then awakening kundalini may push the individual over into psychosis. Here I think the results are mixed. periods of irrational anxiety. From a more subjective perspective the more pleasant experiences associated with a kundalini awakening may include: waves of bliss. Vocal signs can include spontaneous vocal expressions that range from singing or reciting mantras to make various animals sounds such as growling or chirping. This phenomenon has been documented many times. The less pleasant experiences associated with a kundalini awakening may include: trembling. Are these methods of awakening kundalini dangerous? What about Gopi Krishna\'s books? If we take the psychological perspective and view kundalini as the power latent in our unconscious then it is easy to understand that awakening this force is going to bring a greater amount of unconscious material into our consciousness. Unfortunately for some students this leads to a fairly egotistical approach to their practice and ultimately the kundalini energy is used to bolster the ego rather than to merge the ego in bliss. Is there a correlation between sexual scandals and kundalini yoga practice? . according to classical literature the signs of an awakened kundalini can be grouped into: mental signs. sharp aches in areas associated with the cakras. The weakness is that because the kundalini is so easily awakened by the guru students of Siddha Mahayoga often have completely undisciplined personal meditation practices. What are the signs of an awakened kundalini? Briefly. But even if kundalini is dangerous. These students seem more likely to have disciplined personal practices and more of an understanding of how the practice relates to their own experience. It represents dangers in forceful unguided practice but it is not representative of a typical practicioner's experience. Many people begin kundalini yogas. isn't it a faster way to enlightenment? First of all it may be useful to observe that there is no technique currently known on earth that appears to be rapidly catapulting large number of individuals toward enlightenment. Forceful methods of awakening kundalini pose additional dangers. An individual named Gopi Krishna awakened his kundalini by doing unguided meditation on his crown cakra." Gopi Krishna's autobiography appears to be an honest representation of his experiences but it is only one extreme datapoint in the panorama of experience on kundalini yoga. Because quite forceful methods can be used to awaken kundalini these techniques themselves are potentially physically and mentally disruptive. glimpses of transcendental consciousness. Because kundalini yogas deal so directly with a powerful enlightening force it seems natural that they would be "faster". Mental signs can include visions that range from ecstatically blissful to terrifyingly frightful. It seems to me that the guidance of the teacher in either Siddha Mahayoga or Kundalini Yoga is more a determining factor than which style of kundalini practice is employed. shaking and spontaneously performing hatha yoga postures and pranayamas. sudden flashes of heat. His life after awakening was both blessed by ecstatic bliss and tormented by physical and mental discomfort.Siddha Mahayoga. but there appears to be alot of tortoise and hare phenomena at work with newbie kundalini yogins. Physical signs include trembling. Eventually his experience stabilized. He wrote down his experiences in a recently re-released autbiography entitled "Living with Kundalini. periods of elation. The strength of the family of Kundalini Yogas is that the progress is at least apparently more under the control of the student of the yoga. Many who persevere through this initial phase become distracted by the energy and focus on temporal and phenomenal applications of the energy. There have been many scandals among kundalini yoga teachers .
Trans. South Fallsburg. Muktananda. Cambridge. Swami Vishnu (1980b). Tibetan yogins that I have encountered consider the activation of prana (Tibetan: rlung) as merely a prerequisite for the activation of kundalini (Tibetan: gTummo). Some introductory practices for cleansing the channels can be learned from books. Tirtha. Contemporary Kundalini Yogins: Chetanananda. This period requires extra discipline. Finally. John (Editor) (1990). however. Bihar: Bihar School of Yoga. practicing kundalini yoga requires the instruction of an experienced teacher.Energy of the Depths (Jacques Gontier. Devatma Shakti (Fifth ed. Silburn. (1988).There have been scandals regarding the teachers of many paths. Volumes I &II. Albany. Rishikesh: Yoga Shri Peeth Trust. L. Furthermore without moderating sexual activity and physical work it will be hard to experience much success with kundalini. If you awaken kundalini in order to change and enrich your life it's reasonable to expect you may need to change your lifestyle as a result. NY: State University of New York.Evolution and Enlightenment. Either by effort or by shaktipat initiation. From the Finite to the Infinite (First ed. Prana has been translated as the ``vital breath'' and ``bio-energetic motility''. The Hatha Yoga Pradipika (Swami Muktibodhananda Saraswati. Westerners often mistake this power as a sign of enlightenment and allow such teachers liberties as a result. Kundalini.). While genuine mental imbalances arising from kundalini are rare nearly every kundalini yogin will find periods when one needs to be especially sensitive to needs for sleep. Note that by definition no reputable book on kundalini will tell you how to awaken your kundalini. it is associated with maintaining the functioning of the mind and body. What's attractive about this viewpoint is that it explains the difference between the experience of simply having pleasant . Kundalini . New York: Paragon House. Good introductory survey: White. Dynamic Stillness. Where can I learn more? Here are some references for further reading. Kundalini also has a manifestations as consciousness and a as a unifying cosmic energy. The recommendations of both classical literature and experience is that sleep and diet will need to be moderated otherwise severe discomfort may arise. One could ascribe these same aspects to prana as well so past a certain point these become distinctions without differences.). Trans. An advanced kundalini yogin is typically a powerful charismatic individual who has the ability to directly influence the minds of others. The extent that these elements of your life need to change depends on the nature of the individual. it is probably fair to say that kundalini yogins have had more than their share. In addition it is quite common for kundalini yoga to temporarily accentuate the sex drive. If my kundalini is awakened will I need to change my lifestyle? It\'s hard to have your cake and eat it too.prana and kundalini. (First ed.). Since the first publication of these frequently-asked-questions in 1994 more than one well-known kundalini yoga teacher has been implicated in having clandestine affairs with students and has been asked to step down from his position as spiritual leader as a result. however. NY: Siddha Yoga Dham of America Foundation. Where sex is used there is of course the opportunity for misuse or abuse. Massachusetts: Rudra Press.). From the subjective standpoint of an individual actually experiencing the awakening of kundalini I have found three completely different opinions: The first opinion is that a pranic awakening is only a prelude to a full kundalini awakening. both spiritual and non-spiritual . kundalini yoga is closely associated with tantrism and sex is often used in conjunction with tantric practice. (1991). Munger. Kundalini . in its form as prana-kundalini. What is the difference between qi (or chi) and kundalini? First let us try to relate to concepts from the same tradition . quiet and diet. They may not be the easiest books to find but they are currently in print and are very good in their categories. Classical Works: Svatmarama (1985).). S. Swami (1989b). is identical to prana .
breakdown of the immune system. it can also be also associated with debilitation.com/kundalini/kundalini. You will also sense it in shrines and power spots.robertcowham. spiritual energy and from somewhere in the cosmos it draws the kundalini awakened love of your life. However. but it's real world. raw.Y. Guru Death Ruled a Suicide Consider also the Down Sides Of Kundalini from a UK Kundalini Group's Website: Quote The down side There is much dumping of adrenaline into the body and frying your system is a real possibility and danger. and you to her. Desikaran sees the kundalini as a block in the central channel and thus the kundalini must be ``killed'' to make way for the prana. It made perfect sense to me. in their recordings. sexual. You awaken a magnetic. This is the most unusual view of the three. spiritual love story. It is distinctly the wild feminine which can't be controlled. If the consciousness that experiences the pranic activity is seated within the spine (or more correctly. A happy ending to a soul to soul co-kundalini journey into never ending bliss. and in their photos. If the kundalini is awakened without suitable preparation and guidance. Have there been suicides related to kundalini? Unfortunately. You won't read about things like this in the feel good books. and prolonged spiritual pain and suicide. moist. messy and overpowering. Desikaran. is that pranic awakening is the true experience to be aimed for and kundalini is actually an obstruction. You begin to feel it easily in adepts and in their writings. It is primitive. The third opinion. such has not been the case in my life. after having kundalini awakened since 1971. It's nothing paranormal. When posed with question as to how to distinguish between pleasant sensations that show some pranic-activity in the spine and the much more powerful experience Swami Shivom Tirth said that the difference is not in the nature of the activity but in the consciousness that observes it. espoused by the modern hatha yogin. known as the sushumna). took her life after years of a most trying kundalini ordeal. is that prana and kundalini are absolutely equivalent and that it is not meaningful in any way to describe a difference between kundalini rising and prana rising. A dear friend of mine. It even seemed a bit scientific. Kundalini is the mass explosion of dark. If I Awaken Kundalini Will It Help Me Meet A Soulmate With Kundalini? This seems plausible. What is the "primary mode" of kundalini therapy? MISHLOVE: In developing the procedures in the Kundalini Clinic. yes. The second opinion. sticky. Some allegedly enlightened gurus have also committed suicide: N. you have spent a lot of time with people who are having genuine spiritual openings that would appear to be psychotic. the central channel. and who need support within our Western context to get through that. insanity. http://www. I used to believe this. like birth and can be as frightening as death. maybe longer. . and a human library of kundalini information and experiences. The one woman with kundalini who crossed my path with stars in her eyes and sweet murmurings on her lips turned out to be an epic disaster.sensations in the spine and the much more powerful experience of having a ``freight-train''-like full kundalini experience.html Does awakening kundalini make you more sensitive to subtle energy? Absolutely. then the experience is felt much more powerfully. just a natural extension of perception. People on spiritual paths supposedly blessed with good karma and guru protections have committed suicide. It's like an epic. juicy power. espoused by Swami Shivom Tirth for example.
their writings. absolutely not. what happens to the person's kundalini energy Good question and impossible to say. I wish you could explain what a Kundalini experience is and what its ramifications are. maybe it's a genetic thing. and their shrines. They still emit kundalini energy in an afterlife. Before kundalini awakened in me. Until they die and come back. as with the mesomorph. For example. MISHLOVE: I would suppose that the basic kind of support that could be offered is just to be with that person and to let them communicate with you what they're experiencing as they experience it. When it is awakened the normal energy of the body or the blood is not able to fuel the center. This I know. When powerful kundalini adepts die. This serves to show that for kundalini problems what works for one person may not work for another -. yes. that's the primary mode of treatment. it's as potent as when they walked the earth. I tend to believe the above theory is true. perhaps it would be better to give a little detail about what Kundalini means. it's all conjecture. explainable and understandable in historical and cross-cultural terms. there may be another explanation. seems a reasonable explanation. The lifetime build-up of their kundalini energy is everywhere and remains earthbound and in all dimensions. http://www. or awakened kundalini in their former lives. It needs a more powerful and .htm Does Hatha Yoga Help With Kundalini Problems? In my case. On the other hand. In some cases. You could say the "large containers. the writings at this website are supercharged with kundalini energy. This region can be activated by certain disciplines and when activated it can give to the individual the same vision of the universe which all great mystics of the Earth have described. That means 90 percent of the brain is unutilized. According to Indian tradition.SANNELLA: Well. Or. If reincarnation is a reality. According to various estimates. or read their words. yes. After kundalini these practices only boosted too much kundalini energy up my spine." When you are around them.or cause harm. And that part which is universal to man also. 2. However. If you are at all sensitive to subtle energy you will feel precisely what I mean. SANNELLA: Well. it might mean the larger container types did more spiritual work in former lives. That could mean a few things: 1. their recorded words.org/txt/sannella. others have reported that Hatha Yoga was helpful to them. Just as some people are born with bodies that will blossom into mesomorphs with large muscles. which is his aberrated state. who may lead you to believe they know. you get blitzed. Why are some people kundalini powerhouses with shakti so strong it nearly knocks you to the ground? Here's one theory. I did Hatha and Pranayama. and nature has provided it for certain purposes which are not yet known to science. because this appears in all cultures. Their kundalini energy is palpable beyond the kundalini energy of thousands of others. there is a region in the brain below the crown and about the pallette which is called Brahmarendra or the cavity of Brahman. hear their voices. 3. most of us use only ten percent of the brain and according to some only eight percent. When a person dies.THE LAST INTERVIEW (Free Video) TK: Mr Krishna. We are not using the totality of the human brain. They shed their kundalini energy at death and it stays on earth until like a shell it erodes and dissolves. their shakti lingers on in the photos. possibly when you look at their photos. which. some people appear born with the capacity to contain more kundalini energy in their minds and bodies. is support for that part of it which is. as I say.intuition. take heart. regardless of what is claimed in books or said by gurus. GK: Before I start to describe my own experience. that there is still a large margin in the brain which could be used for other purposes. In my experience and in my readings. you have had a Kundalini experience. if souls really return. How does a kundalini completed person perceive the world? GOPI KRISHNA . I would say that's the primary mode of therapy. without judging them.
The sky. a strange thing happened. Finally. to me. so glorious. I had been meditating for 17 years and then all of a sudden during Christmas. . The wonder grows deeper. It is infinite: it is deathless. You see the ocean as if it is living. throughout our life this evolution is relentlessly going on and we have to cooperate with it. That is. When we do not cooperate with the inner evolution we create problems for ourselves. In fact. You see the ocean as if it is consciousness everywhere. but a consciousness which has its own channels and which knows that it is the master and not the slave of the material forces which knows it is the creator. he feels himself to be the master of what he sees. you see a mountain as if it is living. for the last 5. while I was sitting cross-legged in a state of meditation. in the air a fountain of happiness. You see consciousness everywhere. I can understand what you perceive of it. and the other is the world which is much higher. in the same direction as the great geniuses. It is such a beautiful vision that I would like to look at it for days and months on end. this perception is uniform. It is the world of consciousness. and they have given some 'teaching to mankind'. It is unfathomable. This is my experience. For this evolution a certain type of life is necessary. In this other perception you do not see the world as a solid. you see the sky as if it is living. I am never tired of sitting in quiet and reflecting on myself. you perceive it. Something exploded in my brain and a current of silvery light rising from my spine radiated throughout my whole brain." This is the Nirvana of Buddha. It is not the ego. before my 34th year I was living in this world thinking. perceiving in the same way as other people do. and I felt myself expanding in all directions. does not appear as it appeared before my 34th year. in 1937. In this state one feels himself to be a king. so elevating that I have no words to describe this state. you see the Earth as if it is living. the mechanism. It is somehing so unique. For that purpose. But this other perception is different. and not consciousness as a point looking through the eyes or hearing through the ears. seeing. real. then Christ. then Guru Nanak. they have been born time after time. I should say it is not the ego. it is so fascinating. and it then succeeded. One is the normal world of senses and reason. and all the ancient prophets of the Bible. In fact. I passed through grave crises during that period. at short intervals apart. the awakening occurred at the age of 34. in its glorious form. In other words. then Buddha. In my case. TK: How do you see the world? GK: We know what all people perceive of this world. It is wonder and everytime you see it. many years. so amazing that I thought that something unusual had happened in my inner ear. Everyone has the same perception. but since my 49th year I have been living in two different worlds. it is the very condition of this consciousness. For instance. TK: What type of life must a person live to awaken their Kundalini? GK: In order to make this clear. I am never tired of looking at the sky. I would like to say that it is not Kundalini per se. And this life or consciousness is not something which is really dead or which is something you can understand. That is the reason why it is said that no mystic would change his state even for a kingdom. then Mohammed. a new kingdom. But actually. This is probably what Christ meant when he said. you can understand what I perceive of it. which is transformed into a kind of radiation and that radiation awakens and makes the center function. The real objective creation is consciousness. "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you. This means that nature has already provided a potential in the brain which has to be awakened. is opened. day and night. This fuel comes from the reproductive system.000 years at least great prophets have been born. what we do is awaken to activity a certain region in the brain. that the human brain is still organically evolving in the direction of the great mystics. This means that the brain can still organically evolve to a higher performance. I became stabilized in that condition of consciousness in my 49th year. That is to say. This expansion was so incredible. you see life or consciousness everywhere. Beginning with the Vedas. I should say. objective creation.constrained psychic fuel. in this inactive state what we perceive is consciousness in its most magic form. Since that time I have been living in that condition. much more happy and which is totally apart from anything that we can know of the earth. After this I had two other experiences of the same kind. But something was changing in me and I could perceive this change for many. and this is the state of Vada mentioned by the Suffi mystics. Kundalini is the power.
they had no need to apply their brain in such a constrained way. to live. a life of extreme purity and a life of simplicity. the greater our development of our evolution takes place. a giant of the intellect. Our way of life must change. and all those directions contained in the religious scriptures of the Earth -. TK: The more we use our mind. That is the type of life necessary for the awakening of Kundalini. you are not overly clever. We have made our living and our life more and more complex and intricate.which was a direction for how to live while the brain is still evolving. a life of love. That is what the Sermon on the Mount is meant to teach. Consciousness is eternal: our souls. GK: The human brain is evolving rapidly because from morning until evening we are applying our brain to some task. from morning until night. Their Sermon on the Mount. In other words we are meditating. you do not use your cleverness or smartness to take what belongs to others. Socrates or Plato. and to make experiments on the brain. we are looking through the newspapers. This disproportion is at the base of the present threatening situation of the world. the principles which is consciousness. TK: What can we do to remedy that? GK: What we can do is to make a thorough research of all the religious scriptures of mankind. When they depart from this law of evolution. The change occurs in our shells. though on material objects. omissive. compassion. a life in which you wish for others what you wish for yourself.a life of humility. We are giving no time to the mind. so there can be no death for this. but on the other hand our spiritual and moral growth has been negligible. every animal satisfies his basic needs from the recycled resources of the Earth. a life of purity. no time to the spirit. The present time is one such occasion when we have digressed from the laws of evolution and the result is that we are threatened from many directions. Actually. the Ten Commandments. They are eternal. and our spark partakes of the same nature as the divine. pure. you are not sophisticated. The Bhagavad-Gita. we are reading. The life to be lived is just as you see in the sermon on the Mountain . TK: And this is what all religions of the world say? GK: Every prophet. this was not the case before when people hunted or when they were tilling the soil. We have developed a very powerful intellect as seen by the scientific discoveries that have been made and the changes that have occurred in our life. service is the ideal life which human beings have to live. mind. of all the occult traditions of the past. The results is that there is a disproportionate evolution. So what we have in mordern times is a disproportionate human being. As you know. beautiful. love. and a pygmy of moral or spiritual growth. is there any change in the sun? The same is true of consciousness. every great mystic. Most of the people are applying their brain throughout the day. The revolutionaries have come to regulate the lives of human beings so that they may work in harmony with the law of evolution that is at work day and night within their brains. We see the sun rising in the morning and setting in the evening. for instance.the minerals -. the Discourses of Buddha. intellect. compassionate lives. yoga was devised in . no change for this. a life in wich you are pure. the senses. we are watching the television or we are working in the office. you are not smart. but we have not changed. But not in the essence. on the other hand. that humanity should live simply. In fact. We will find that this life is okay: purity. on the one hand. Man is the only creature who is wasting the basic resources -. We are not giving any thought to it. immutable. omni-present.for his own luxury and pleasure. so that all day we are working and working and working to feed our belly. even every philosopher. We are now applying our brain in a very constrained way. that you do not waste the resources of the Earth. omnipotent. TK: Is there no change in consciousness in birth or in death? Would you explain that? GK: Here we come to metaphysics. The result is a rapid state of evolution. they always bring calamities or problems upon themselves.they are all meant to regulate our life so that we may live in harmony with the law of evolution which governs our life.
You said that nature is very merciful. to long life. we have to understand that religion has always been a companion of man. for the experiments will show what kind of life and what kind of environment a human being must have to evolve completely in harmony with the law of evolution. with temperance. After all. certain ways of behavior are necessary to live in conformity to the inner changes.India to make experiments on the brain. how have we then come to have a purpose in ourselves? We do everything with a purpose. and not a delusion and that it is corroborated by ancient tradition. By external observation can see only neurons and their connections. The very word "yoga" means to yoke. the ancient occult traditions. It will lead to the goal which nature has assigned for her. The first relics found show that those people were performing religious rituals. after observing my own state for at least 30 years. GK: It is the most urgent. or by their own sensible reaction they will change themselves. and the author of the universe must be intelligent. If there was no purpose. there would be no purpose to this existence. Change has to occur in any way. even now. It is this type of life that has to be led. not a luxury life of wasting the Earth's resources. TK: The results would prove. When this power is awakened. and that religion came in time to guide mankind on this path. to happiness. GK: Now. the results would be a hundred-fold more precious. so it means religion has always been a part of human life. I have been saying it. I made a study of those traditions. that there is a purpose to our existence. please tell me. so that nature's forces are now creating a situation in which either calamity occurs which will change the direction of human life. A rock or a mountain or an ocean has no idea of existence. should first make research on the brain. There is complete darkness about it because you cannot see this evolution of the brain. The ancient religious traditions. TK: I believe that things happpen not by chance but by purpose to our life. How has this purpose come if there is no purpose in creation? How do we act on purpose? So it means that purpose and plan is a part of consciousness.. TK: The very fact that we build nuclear weapons is spiting nature's wrath.. TK: And it is the path that will lead us to the stars. can such a vast creation be purposeless? Can such a vast creation come out of nothing? Can such a vast creation ruled by laws be all composed of dead. with moderation. then you are able to observe the internal working of the brain and that shows you that you are still evolving. on the nervous system. TK: What do you propose? How do we investigate this? GK: I think any sane government. The answer is this: The brain is evolving and present science doesn't know how. There must be a purpose. But no research on religious tradition and religious experience. of pollutants polluting the planet. to much greater achievement than she has done. there will be more freedom. For 30 years I said nothing because I wanted to confirm that my experience was real experience. . It will lead humanity to a peaceful co-existence. If we were to devote as much time and resources as we devote to other scientific experiments. TK: How will this affect the political structure? GK: I need not say. this existence comes from intelligence. if it is our purpose to. that certain lifestyles. After that I wrote my first book.comes from the mind. and I found that my experience is in conformity to the ancient traditions. If we didn't have an intelligent creator. and that nature will use the least amount of force to put us back on the proper path. It will lead her to the exploration of the universe. TK: The research of this force is the most urgent task of our time. What research have we made on it? We have made research on psychic coma.existence . We have evidence that man was religious even two hundred thousand years ago.. any good government. to join the individual soul with the over-soul. GK: The results will show that the human brain is still organically evolving. insensitive matter? The very idea of being . It has to be seen from internal observation by awakening this power. and now in my 80th year I solemnly say this and this alone is the answer to modern crises. GK: It will lead humanity to this new dimension of consciousness.
how would we be here? You see this Earth. many times nature forgives us. For instance. Known as the "Heaviside layer layer" this umbrella is 50 miles from the earth. But now we have democracy.. inside inferno and outside the Earth fire. 16 civilizations have perished so far. there were once feudal systems: before that. TK: You have the Kundalini Research Foundation in Canada and in Switzerland. GK: For the experiment a hundred people will be needed but for running the organization we can have any number of people who have a deep passion for spiritual matters and who are prepared to mold their lives in consort with the spiritual laws. They would be more than welcome in this organization. If nature were not merciful. But ourselves. in consciousness. But when we indulge too much in this bad habit we have a serious pain in our digestive organs. it is a volcano. has tastes.. this threat will be averted. then further when he is an adult. then of course nature has no alternative except to teach us by suffering. They have to change at every stage in their development.crisis -. we have reason. War can be fought without nuclear weapons but we are devising weapons to punish ourselves. GK: It can be started anywhere. for which you have an umbrella. There are devices in our brain. For instance.and try to change that. We must suffer. we have learning. But if by having everything we ignore it. TK: And these hundred people will lead a life prescribed and hopefully out of this hundred. When we overdo a thing then naturally disaster overtakes us. Please explain to the public what this is. The United States can provide a beautiful environment for this experiment. GK: It gives us chance after chance. and we are not even aware of what reasons prevailed that made those civilizations at the height of power mingle with dust. clans. Then when he is mature and at last when he is old. Why? Because our brain is evolving. TK: If a man wants to go into his room and hang himself. different ways of life. which when we digress we invite a calamity or disaster. and that this evolution needs a certain kind of harmonious life. how could we live? The very fact that we are alive and that all these hazards around us are controlled by other powers means that nature is merciful and kind TK: And even though we are building nuclear weapons. TK: What would you tell the leaders of the world? GK: The leaders of the world have to be convinced and for that convincing the experiment is necessary. so even the systems of our governments are changing. But when we stop living according to the laws of our evolution. Just as we overeat and go on overeating. it is started in many places. We are so protected that even on single slip or error can destroy all of life on Earth. If it is good. If this life is denied. TK: You propose taking a hundred people and. At every stage he has different tastes. his activities change when he is an adolescent.GK: Unless nature were merciful. TK: So what is the hope? Where does the hope come from? GK: Heaven is always merciful. we degenerate indignantly. a child grows up and he lives one type of life when is an infant. or monarchies. life of man has to change. no one can stop him. We are devising nuclear weapons: there is no sense in that. tribes. If we analyze the course of our present dilemma -. we have an intelligence. This is what we are doing with nuclear weapons. nature will be merciful. one or two will awaken. so we cannot blame nature. Another kind of child. inside the Earth. spiting nature's wrath. different activities. But if we continue like this there is no chance. try to live more in harmony with the laws of evolution. You have cosmic rays coming. If you didn't have this layer there would be total destruction of all life in a short time. The reason is that at every stage of progress. GK: When we deviate from the path we invite suffering and disaster for us. TK: The analyzing of Kundalini energy? GK: We have to show that the brain is evolving. For instance. fire. man degenerates and brings calamity upon himself. The same is the case of nations and people. This is also happening at present. .
the Earth -. but I can say that a more harmonious. For it is the evolution of the brain that creates a mystic or a genius. of the brain. compassion and live ideal lives. and then in every generation there will be some people who have reached the higher dimensions. GK: I can't say strong. TK: And the effects of this on the world? GK: They will convince the biologist that this change of the mind. that we would study in the past? GK: For the first time we will study the religions and the occult literature of the world with an aim to finding how the brain evolves.and all its kingdom -. TK: Is this what evolution has meant of human destiny and it is inevitable for this to take place? GK: Man has come for this purpose. and educators. There will be physiological changes which can be measured. and prove it they will take that path. If he has nothing to do. a strong. that they must cultivate purity. Otherwise please consider this for a moment: one whole planet -. everything -. Those into whom these processes start may bloom into geniuses. honesty. They will guide the race to rise higher and higher and higher. TK: A strong love from birth. TK: What do we need to evolve moderate lifestyles? How can we effect our evolutionary process the best? . and which can transform him from a mortal into an immortal and eternal source of happiness. They will be the rulers. GK: It will be a spearhead for many things. animal. Why? Because man has to attain to other states of consciousness for which all these recourses are needed by him. In that way they will conform to the evolutionary needs. TK: How can we help the people today who have been lost to drugs or have killed people? What do they need to know? GK: When you place before them an alternative that in their own entirety there is a mind of happiness. more peaceful. TK: And we don't have a spiritual leader of that magnitude today? GK: At this time we do not but they will come. There will be metabolic processes which can be measured. TK: What would examples of this be? What will happen to these people? GK: What will happen is that the brain activity will be increased and its effect will be found all over the body. has physiological systems. Otherwise. It will be the spearhead of changes in the social and political systems. if it is not a planned creation it would be useless to put all this at his disposal. an ocean of eternal life. and he has been granted an intelligence to make the best use of it. It is because he has to reach to higher dimensions of consciousness that all this Earth and its resources have been placed at his disposal. It will be a spearhead for the first time bringing to the notice of the race that there is the potential in every human being which is the most precious asset that he has. loving environment will help develop this.mineral. TK: And these are the same mystics and geniuses all throughout time. truth. scientists.GK: Out of the hundred to whom the disciplines are given. only to live like animals. That is the best thing we can do for the children. more happy. both sides will be confirmed. political leaders. You must show them a better incentive. and what methods are needed to make it more active so that the evolutionary processes become faster. some time after which scientists can observe them. more contented humanity will come out of this. They will be born when experiments are made and what I say is confirmed. By blooming into a mystic. TK: So in effect this will be the spearhead of a new race of human beings to prove all human begins have this ability.is placed at his disposal. maybe three or four will show the symptoms. a strong mother and father. TK: What is your wish for the children of the future? GK: Children should be brought up with the ideal cultivated in them that the universe is ruled by an intelligent power.
high fever. not from the world. A man may have all the luxuries but his mind might be depressed. Happiness comes from the mind. simple dress. a spiritual luminary of the highest rank. and drug intoxication to be triggers. a wholesome occupation. and genius all manifestations of the same thing? GK: Yes. How Come I'm Not Enlightened? Because usually awakening kundalini is merely a starting point. as with people with no spiritual leanings. meditation. or a partial rising. or claiming to have. A few. How does a kundalini arousal most commonly occur? Kundalini arousal most commonly occurs as an unintentional side-effect of yoga. Some theorists consider psychotherapy. TK: It means that their Kundalini --if that's the right word -. Look at the lives of yogis. It's like a long and winding road with some bumps along the way. It is the mind that gives us happiness. However. Similarly. TK: Are the biological bases of manic depression. Consider Swami Vivekananda. With a touch. simple foods that one would like to eat with them. possibly a lifetime or longer. A peasant. or other intensive spiritual practices. He will never be happy. sometimes has a better appetite and eats with more relish. not everyone who receives a shaktipat has their kundalini energy awakened. a poor farmer eating just a bread with a little salt. than a rich man who eats all his delicious food. a look. Believe me. had on mental disorder or the other. very wise in this. a clean shelter. GK: Yes. that takes years. kundalini awakenings are not magically turning into Einsteins. I Just Awakened Kundalini. This is due to the fact that they did not know how they had to live. seen and experienced. to reach completion. Gopi Krishna believed kundalini was responsible for genius. but nothing that bears out any proven longevity benefits of kundalini or spiritual life in general. You see. Nature is very. Many people who think they are poets. then I would imagine her or his live would be longer due to the cessation of the bad habits and destructive behaviors. I have seen people who live hardy lives who eat with such an appetite. Some believe kundalini awakening can occur spontaneously without apparent cause.GK: We need healthy food. Merely by being in the presence of a person with potent kundalini can also awaken kundalini in seekers. They live no longer than anyone else. if you do not live a disciplined life. giving birth. One possible exception. unrequited love. It is a vast place and there can be thousands of species different and more intelligent than we. but I've seen no kundalini geniuses of late. who died at age 39. Will Kundalini Turn Me Into A Genius? Don't count on it. we have this schizophrenia. it's called shaktipat. We know that many of the geniuses perhaps have been most mentally unhealthy. if people with awakened kundalini energy suddenly turned into mental giants those who sell kundalini courses would exploit that benefit with scientific research verifying the dramatic leaps in intelligence. to have the highest happiness on the earth. If kundalini or a spiritual path saved a person from dissipation and selfdestruction. then the awakening of this center can be unhealthy.is off balance. the person must have some degree of ripeness to benefit from the shaktipat. education for our children. Does Kundalini Lengthen A Person's Lifespan? No way. None have done so because all these kundalini awakening methods and all the people with. . it means that the system is not pure and that the energy is not working in a healthy way. schizophrenia. they are interrelated. That means a distorted vision of the same power. Can kundalini be awakened with a touch or an intention Yes. Other yogis and spiritual masters have died young or lived no longer than others. lived longer lives. from what I have read. celibacy. TK: Do you feel that there are other life forms beyond our life? GK: There can be in the universe different species of life more intelligent than we. some who think they are spiritual geniuses. or an intention. deep sorrow. qi gong. a kundalini powerhouse (a person with massive kundalini energy) can awaken kundalini in someone. some who think they are in touch with God.
you will find more. which makes one ungrounded and somewhat "spacey". Their alleged God in flesh Master performed kundalini shaktipats on his devotees. Dr. I told him that shaktipat was entirely his decision and I gave him advice on the possible risks. I "saw" that his imbalances were more pronounced. which I wasn't supposed to do. The Guru advised him against having healing and of course gave him the traditional belief that the Kundalini would heal him. If you do your homework on cults and ex devotee websites. except new ones with no histories. Thanks to the Internet. the other a guru. asked me whether or not I recommended he take shaktipat initiation.html I read there are no such things as kundalini problems. When you wise up you realize thorns are mixed in with roses on the spiritual path. Lee Sannella: MISHLOVE: What's your prognosis for cases like this? Do they get better after a while? How long does it typically take? SANNELLA: Oh yes. Wise is the person who discerns. Those are red flags warning you that you are unwittingly walking into a cult. He decided to take the shaktipat and had disastrous results. I believed practically everything spiritual I read and 'assumed' everything spiritual was honest and good. the awakening of his kundalini wasn't the cause of his subsequent suffering but it certainly did amplify and cause it to physically manifest. a mantra. However. this is a way a guru or an adept awakens kundalini in a person with a touch. He already had the energy imbalance before the shaktipat. it was my job to set up the public programs for the Guru and to talk with some of the new people who attended the programs. you can easily do background checks on most gurus and spiritual groups. This mans case illustrates what I have been saying. I have a few people like this. and then it leaves. Not all shaktipats happen at the moment of contact. Not so. How can you say some people grow tired of kundalini after 10 years? I quote an MD Kundalini Expert. His upper chakras were over energized and the lower ones were underdeveloped.Have there been kundalini cults? Absolutely. What is a kundalini shaktipat? Traditionally. in the sense that it cools off. One man with whom I spoke. You may recall the cult that gassed subways in Japan killing dozens. Are kundalini shaktipats safe? As a member of the board of an internatonal kundalini yoga center. I wouldn't have constructed the website Kundalini Survival & Support and had hundreds of people seeking support for kundalini problems. and they look for the rest of their life for it. Better and wiser to use gentler approaches with little or no risk. They did not. raise kundalini for that purpose. sometimes with inner visions or spontaneous body movements. When I was naive at the beginning of my spiritual quest. often accompanied with euphoria. Beware of any claiming to have all the answers or the only way. It can also be done with a look. and you . He didn't have any major pain or suffering and was hoping the kundalini awakening would enhance his spiritual practice. We talked further and I ended up "looking" at his energy. is that true? I have seen such nonsense too. because it wasn't "company policy". Can Kundalini Heal Depression? In my opinion. he was bedridden. trying to heal depression with kundalini would be like trying to perform brain surgery with a buzz saw. Other people get very tired of it after ten or twelve years. and the ceasing of the depression was a side effect. not restored to harmony as others had led him to believe. they all get better. injuring hundreds.com/Articles/Fix_Kundali. however. It may take anywhere from -some people are furious because they've only had the experience once. I have read of two cases where individuals credited kundalini with erasing their depression. Sometimes hours or days later the effect kicks in. almost instantly http://easternhealingarts. and energy begins flowing up your spine. One had a spontaneous awakening. or an intention. Were that true.
Yet. such as this website in Sweden: Kundalini Information & Kundalini Network INVESTIGATION AND DIAGNOSIS OF 76 CASES OF KUNDALINI AROUSAL Consider. Nobody can put a number on how long it will take for kundalini to fully awaken. no single method helps with all kundalini problems. I'm not making money off of kundalini or selling kundalini courses. maybe. Problems that take a long time to pass can generally be made more manageable. One inventor claimed he shut down his kundalini energy with a mind wave machine. interaction with deities. I read bona fide kundalini awakenings always come with problems. is almost always associated with nerve damage. However. as though they were destined from birth to be huge kundalini containers just as some people are destined out of the womb to be great athletes or child prodigies. perhaps many. I tend to believe her because many of the most potent kundalini powerhouses had kundalini awaken early in their lives. periods of altered states of consciousness seeming to parallel insanity. some lasting for decades. For example. and kundalini causality cases. Some. Aside from misguided claims to the contrary.htm . people will not experience a full awakening in a lifetime. Sometimes the spiritual experiences deepen and the person becomes a true mystic. kundalini energy sometimes shuts done in rare. Others said it went away on its own. but I'd say most problems pass in a few years or less. is that true? No. http://www.wouldn't see scores of other websites with kundalini warnings. or the person never had a kundalini awakening in the first place. And. I know a woman who has kundalini so potent you can feel it in her words when you read her writings. Can kundalini energy be shut down? In my experience the answer is no. His information looked plausible. what goes up does not go down. yet my kundalini flows on unabatedly. but often people just go insane. and various siddhis.org/page/doc0/doc0040. I haven't meditated in over five years. some people claim praying to God shut it down for them. inexplicable cases. a subtle energy-sensitive person who has too much kundalini blasting up her spine could cease all spiritual practices until the flow simmers down and thereafter meditate less to avoid overdosing. and having a kundalini problem myself. perhaps a burst of prana that died down of its own accord. She told me she had kundalini from birth. or months. He claimed this worked. I read kundalini fully awakens in 3-7 years. I am doing what I do out of compassion for others. Could a person be born with an awakened kundalini? I believe so. At its culmination. to complete the process. like with a spontaneous cancer remission. The kundalini experience may go on for years after that. it results in union with All. but he warned of risks. After seeing many difficult kundalini cases. weeks. too. and people in her presence have had kundalini awakenings.realization. A Chi Kung Master once told me he shut down kundalini in students by having them cease all spiritual practices for nine months to a year and a half. is that true? You may have read this: Quote The kundalini is seldom pleasant. it could be in some cases the kundalini energy becomes so refined the individual no longer feels it. though I have to say I find that difficult to believe. In some cases perhaps days. How long could a kundalini problem last? A lifetime. I was moved to do more to help by starting the website and forums along with honest information about kundalini untainted by profit concerns or any agendas to recruit followers for any gurus or spiritual groups Is there a single method that helps with all kundalini problems? No.
listen to their recordings. I believe you would make a connection that would guide you just as if the adept were in the physical. be real careful who you entrust your safety to. for others. Others have had mental health issues they understandably hoped were kundalini awakenings. or. *Philip St. some people will tell you they or their method will fix your kundalini issue. If you were to immerse yourself in the adepts writings. Once it dims down. For instance. and I've met others with the same related medical conditions and complaints as people with zero kundalini get. Moral of the story. Do your homework and find out about the person. and said to be fully enlightened and Christ come again. One writer about kundalini believed for some people the concentration they used in their daily lives would be enough to stimulate adequate kundalini energy toward an eventual completion.more so if they have never worked with kundalini before. few know what they are doing when it comes to a longterm kundalini fix. the reverse is true.However. place a photo of the adept in your room. and you will feel it there too. author of Kundalini Energy and Christian Spirituality. fewer can actually help. a number of kundalini people with cancer have come to my forums. they are only experimenting -. no. Have some people mistaken psychological and medical problems for kundalini awakenings? Unfortunately. simply read their writings and feel the flow. in fact. but I believe so. a guru with the power to awaken kundalini in others. when. What is the safest way to deal with a difficult kundalini awakening? By doing nothing. now rots in a prison cell in Japan for ordering the murders of innocent passengers on subways in Japan. Some people claim success with methods like this with gurus no longer on the earth plane. some people have what appear to be smooth as silk kundalini awakenings with little or no problems. I've had people who came to my forums for years only to discover what they assumed were kundalini awakenings were medical conditions. Romain. If you are sensitive to subtle energy. Neither his kundalini energy nor his alleged powers and divine attributes saved or prevented him from his heinous acts and the resultant misfortune. . The same applies to many untested meditation techniques with no lineages behind them.are guinea pigs. guide a person from the beyond? Some people may say no. Gopi Krishna's writings and his photo (See below) exude powerful subtle energy (shakti). A kundalini awakening doesn't have to come with problems to be certified legitimate. Lighting a candle in front of the deceased adept's photo also helps. Could a kundalini adept. People with kundalini get sick like anyone else and have their share of misfortune. For instance. or a powerful master like Ramana Maharshi. you can continue to do nothing and allow it to do what needs to be done. like me. Many people have been led into cults due to blindly trying techniques and undiscerningly following megalomaniacs. Moreover. yes. recommends Tai Chi and credited it with helping his kundalini process. or the organization/cult behind the person. Does Tai Chi Help Balance Kundalini? For some *people yes. this is true. if your kundalini energy remains extremely potent. yes. Somebody makes up some methods and those who try the methods with no clue about where the methods came from -. you might consider returning to spiritual practices. Will Kundalini Protect Me From Disease And Misfortune? In spite of false claims and deceptive promises I have read and heard about concerning the boons of kundalini. For example. For those with high-powered kundalini. as a number of people know from experience.or any possible negative effects down the road -. By just allowing the kundalini energy to do its thing or run its course. What do you mean when you say because of my kundalini problems people could experiment on me? I mean when you seek help from healers and others. it's no talisman. and stare at the adept's photo daily. Just as kundalini can mimic psychological and medical problems. like with a shrine. Do dead kundalini adepts have power? In my experience. Look at their photos. Thus.
This is the most unusual view of the three. Am I having a kundalini or a pranic awakening? Hard to say and a subject cloaked in controversy.P. And what works for one person may not work for or harm another. espoused by the modern hatha yogin. What is probably more relevant is to distinguish two different experiences which are often confused. This experience much more profoundly transfigures consciousness. This experience itself brings about a wide range of experiences and results in vitality and sensitivity. experts have different opinions on the is it kundalini or is it prana question. because they do practices that are too intense for their constitution and . Another very distinct experience is the experience of kundalini entering the sushumna and rising up the spine. (This is not insanity but a drug-induced reaction which usually clears up in a few weeks if the person changes their habits). My conclusion is that these are all different terminologies for dealing with a common set of experiences. at the time of awakening. Most attempts to help with kundalini either do nothing or worsen the problem." So. or 2) the person is using drugs.\" http://www. In one an individual experiences some pleasant energizing electric energy running along the spine. To rush in blindly courts possible disaster. it's like an anybody's guess type of situation. The third opinion. The Chinese concept of qi (or chi) can be safely identified with the Indian concept of prana. If the consciousness that experiences the pranic activity is seated within the spine (or more correctly. You have to tread lightly with kundalini difficulties. From the moment that kundalini enters the sushumna there will no longer be a distinction between the subjective consciousness which experiences and the object of experience.S. usually pretty heavily. Any one of these viewpoints is adequate for describing the full range of experiences.eecs. espoused by Swami Shivom Tirth for example. And one says you have to "kill the kundalini. The second opinion. Some people become dysfunctional. is that pranic awakening is the true experience to be aimed for and kundalini is actually an obstruction.berkeley. Tibetan yogins that I have encountered consider the activation of prana (Tibetan: rlung) as merely a prerequisite for the activation of kundalini (Tibetan: gTummo). When posed with question as to how to distinguish between pleasant sensations that show some pranic-activity in the spine and the much more powerful experience Swami Shivom Tirth said that the difference is not in the nature of the activity but in the consciousness that observes it. Desikaran sees the kundalini as a block in the central channel and thus the kundalini must be "killed" to make way for the prana. but hardly insane. Does kundalini make people insane? I defer to Bonnie Greenwell: Quote Kundalini does not make you insane with the following exceptions: 1) If it awakens in someone who has a very shaky personality structure to begin with. then the experience is felt much more powerfully. known as the sushumna). is that prana and kundalini are absolutely equivalent and that it is not meaningful in any way to describe a difference between kundalini rising and prana rising.edu As you can see. What's attractive about this viewpoint is that it explains the difference between the experience of simply having pleasant sensations in the spine and the much more powerful experience of having a "freight-train''-like full kundalini experience. I defer to the Kundalini FAQ: "From the subjective standpoint of an individual actually experiencing the awakening of kundalini I have found three completely different opinions: The first opinion is that a pranic awakening is only a prelude to a full kundalini awakening. you're in good company. who has always had problems and who is already on an edge. Desikaran. As soon as kundalini enters the sushumna this experience will completely overwhelm ordinary waking consciousness.don't worry. the central channel. If all this seems confusing .
WHAT IS KUNDALINI? with LEE SANNELLA. However. I think they both represent the same thing. You know. MISHLOVE: So there's a sense in which this understanding of the coiled energy rising through the body is very ancient. Jeffrey Mishlove. presents the following transcript from the series Thinking Allowed. considered like a coiled serpent or the serpent power. and through yogic practice or other circumstances this coiled energy rises through the body. and is an expert in dealing with individuals.D. both Eastern and Western. SANNELLA: I don't know whether it was one or two serpents at that time. or acupuncture points.it is an energetic issue -the process needs your cooperation to work well). JEFFREY MISHLOVE. with Dr.D. But our modern concept doesn't completely accord with that model. the universal cosmic consciousness. Ph. activating various psychic and nervous energy centers. not their own temporary personalities. Kundalini is a concept that's been developed in the theory and philosophy of yoga. In yoga this is thought of as an auspicious sign of spiritual attainment. MISHLOVE: It's the original symbol of Hippocrates.realization.their life is out of balance.D. the caduceus is the derived symbol. With me today in the studio is Dr. MISHLOVE: It's a pleasure to have you here. A Thinking Allowed Television Underwriter. (This is not a moral issue -. that might be located in the arms. And the crossing of the snakes has more probably to do with the nadis. The coil to me means potential. http://www. because you've introduced the term the nadis. LEE SANNELLA. but it's close. One is a popularization of the other.htm Even enlightened humans have to mind their manners and realize that the Atman is the wondrous phenomena they should promote. Welcome.: Hello and welcome. It represents a coiled energy located at the base of the spine. around the sides -. MISHLOVE: Which? SANNELLA: Well.sort of like the acupuncture meridians. MISHLOVE: Let's step back just a second. Ramana Maharshi had the right approach in this regard.org/page/doc0/doc0044. as well as to the yogic practitioners. a physician and author of The Kundalini Experience: Psychosis or Transcendence? Dr. SANNELLA: That's good enough. Lee Sannella.: Hello. or live a frantic and overstretched lifestyle.Christopher Calder The Intuition Network. Sannella is the founder of the Kundalini Clinic. it's intriguing. in the legs. have sex promiscuously. SANNELLA: Well. the founder of medicine. It's a potential energy until it is activated. with the snakes twisted up the staff of Hermes. This energy will not work well if you use alcohol regularly. Jeffrey. and I think you're referring to centers of energy. . It was known to the ancient Western Greek physicians. or the other accessory energy centers. . very similar to the symbol of the coiled serpent rising in the kundalini theory of yoga. Conversations On the Leading Edge of Knowledge and Discovery. aside from that which is supposed to be in the spinal canal. In Western medicine we have the symbol of the caduceus. who are experiencing these symptoms of kundalini rising. like ganglia of nerves. Lee. Ramana Maharshi promoted the Atman. M. Ph. these same symptoms might be viewed as psychotic. but never his own mortal body and mind. from the point of view of Western psychology and psychiatry. It's very. hang out with toxic people. I think. I don't know. Do you think there's a connection? SANNELLA: Well. and that is one reason he is still beloved by all.
It keeps me awake at night. which is a normal sort of process that man is heir to. and I gather that these are concepts that you take seriously as a medical doctor. Psychosis may accompany spiritual opening of this kind. MISHLOVE: Let's talk about psychosis for a minute. this change in the brain -. if the person had this experience and communicated it to other people. MISHLOVE: And people might experience these states without being engaged in any spiritual practice at all. because I've had people write me the oddest things: "Take this 'kantaloni' away from me. and the two can be distinguished and should be. They are clearly defined in yoga. which is a change itself.like out-of-the-body states. These are all typical symptoms of psychosis. as you said. I can't do my work. when a person typically has the same experience -." It's very annoying in some cases and to some people. and the descriptions which refer to the spinal cord and the accessory systems. the response might be quite the opposite. psychosis in general is having no insight into all of these things that are going on.more seriously afflicted than just being odd. MISHLOVE: So in other words. MISHLOVE: And it must be all the more confusing for these people. The peripheral signs and symptoms. that correspond to the yoga siddhis or powers -. SANNELLA: Yes. and try and distinguish between it and a spiritual opening? SANNELLA: Well. Lee. I mean. in one culture this would be considered a very auspicious experience. and therefore you're looked at as being quite odd. psychophysiological event in the brain. it would be identified in this spiritual context -.and I gather you've worked with people who have had it spontaneously.MISHLOVE: And also in yoga there's the concept of the chakras being central organs of psychic energy located right along the spinal column. MISHLOVE: Now. or whatever the states are. the experience that is called kundalini. People are hearing voices. but you get a very clear idea of what is psychotic and what is not. because people have no understanding of it in general. and all of them are in a sense real. or bilocation states. but not supported in the same way that you would support a spiritual opening. which is what the kundalini is to me. in the sense that this is not the only one. because the psychosis is something to be understood. for instance. It's bothering me. they still exist all over the world. having physical ailments for which there is no organic cause. These are concepts that have been articulated very cogently and in quite a lot of detail in yogic philosophy. of course. Probably we should call it the master opening in the psychophysiology of the human being. it's largely something which you have learned not to talk too much about.acupuncture or nadis -. either in part or almost continuously. and people experience them.a new. This change then gives the person who has spiritual inclinations the equipment with which to more adequately join with the divine.if one were in a culture such as the Hindu culture or other comparable cultures. I don't want it anymore. or people who have been meditating and all of a sudden had it -. In our culture. MISHLOVE: Can you define psychosis. the third eye is one we often hear about. It is aberration without understanding of that aberration as being aberrated. which represents psychophysiological change in the whole organism. People would be happy. I take seriously the new event in the brain -. it's kundalini."Oh yes. then. psychic states. basically. but there are lots of preliminary and other states. SANNELLA: Not really. they might start off on a total tangent. In our own culture. or show absolutely no .what happens? SANNELLA: Well. which as you said is the original meaning of yoga. if not a little bit worse than odd -. These experiences seem to be breaks with reality. simply by talking with someone in the ordinary way.are all derivative from the central event in the brain. SANNELLA: Certainly. A person would be getting a lot of positive attention and support to go through the experience and let it unfold. And there are lots of other openings. SANNELLA: Yes. That's a crude definition. Do you view all psychosis as a spiritual opening? SANNELLA: No. seeing visions. whatever they are -. and if anyone wants to take the time and effort to search them out." And the person would be treated within that social framework.
MISHLOVE: What's your prognosis for cases like this? Do they get better after a while? How long does it typically take? SANNELLA: Oh yes. experiencing a kundalini experience or a spiritual opening. It has a way of its own. It depends on what they are doing with it. and then it leaves. and so forth. you have spent a lot of time with people who are having genuine spiritual openings that would appear to be psychotic. SANNELLA: Yes. If they're fighting it. MISHLOVE: I would suppose that the basic kind of support that could be offered is just to be with that person and to let them communicate with you what they're experiencing as they experience it. with their children. if they were relatively unstable. It may take anywhere from -some people are furious because they've only had the experience once. as I say. for example. Other people get very tired of it after ten or twelve years. and also they're apt to become quite grandiose about it. It could. that's the primary mode of treatment. and it could change from moment to moment in the person. and so forth. Because it's part of their natural equipment. and they look for the rest of their life for it. because they don't have this outlet. sometimes it might not. as a compensation for the put-down or letdown that they feel. not always. without judging them. SANNELLA: Well. in the sense that it cools off. they all get better. MISHLOVE: In developing the procedures in the Kundalini Clinic. I don't think so. explainable and understandable in historical and cross-cultural terms. and they don't have the understanding that surrounds them. If it's not. Some of us like to massage. SANNELLA: Yes. usually they're successful. to resist? SANNELLA: No. I would say that's the primary mode of therapy. MISHLOVE: A classic example of what we think of as psychosis are people who believe themselves to be Jesus Christ. sometimes this might represent a genuine spiritual opening. are you saying -SANNELLA: Resisting. manipulate. that's a different matter. which has been called into action. of course. SANNELLA: Well. and so forth. yes. MISHLOVE: Is that healthy for a person to do. and whether they have a practice in which it can be incorporated naturally and gracefully. in fighting it. MISHLOVE: When you say fighting it. MISHLOVE: Does it involve. MISHLOVE: I would think a big problem that a person would have. inappropriate affect. How are they going to communicate what's happening to them to other people who may have no context within which this would make sense at all? SANNELLA: It's very difficult. and therefore they should honor it like any other function of the body. And that part which is universal to man also.emotional responsiveness to some things and a super-responsiveness to others. and that's why lots of people get more unstable than they need to be. if that is something that comes natural to the therapist. Some of us are talented in that way. because this appears in all cultures. That's one of the main difficulties. meditating together with them? SANNELLA: It does sometimes. . I have a few people like this. MISHLOVE: And to discern whether or not that spiritual opening is legitimate must be a very subtle and delicate thing to do. yes. MISHLOVE: Now. and who need support within our Western context to get through that. it is. would be how it would affect their relationships with their family. with their spouse or loved ones. and some of us are talented in other ways. certainly. SANNELLA: Well. is support for that part of it which is. which is his aberrated state. It's quite difficult. MISHLOVE: You mean it can be a persistent. kind of annoying symptom for that long? SANNELLA: It can be somewhat annoying.
I would certainly think both classical Hindusim and Taoism. very much different than that. The Taoists. and then they learn how to adjust. or going back to drugs and alcohol and things like that persistently. verbal. have a very similar experience. hopefully. To what extent do you think the people who are having these experiences that might lead them to a higher level of functioning. I think it brings us up very short and reminds us that participation in the universe is what all kinds of development is about. to establish a higher equilibrium. and it should be not confused with whatever they're doing spiritually. and showing other gross signs of immaturity. that people are not going to want to be tampered with in the psychiatric manner. let us say. MISHLOVE: Earlier. or spiritual experiences. MISHLOVE: You mean a full-fledged kundalini experience is still quite rare? SANNELLA: Yes. yes. how do you think that this kundalini phenomenon reflects on our understanding of medicine in general. and are deluding ourselves. insofar as they might be dogmatic and say this is the way our scriptures say the experience has been reported. that then their life begins to function. if you're a therapist. the thing to do in a spiritual community. when I asked you do you subscribe to or accept the theory of the chakras and the nadis. and the Bushmen in South Africa. But in general. not only in physiology. rather than looking at the uniqueness of each situation. often we think we are going beyond the ego. perhaps. That's the most common. And ordinarily. but in the cultural and spiritual backgrounds that people bring to this experience. SANNELLA: Well. it might be useful for them to look into Taoism. you might say. it's quite rare. when you have people who are persistently. I don't think that they're misleading necessarily. cases of this kind? SANNELLA: Well. the kundalini. You practice in the psychiatric area. And so it leads people to expect a certain kind of sign to appear. or that simmers down to it. They are lesser states of intense prana. It's unusual to have someone who is totally in that divine connection constantly. But on the other hand. on the other hand. because there's tremendous individual difference. I mean. have sort of in between. what you say is correct. I think often that will happen. character disordered. and logical mind and . whereas real spiritual work seems to go beyond the ego. Lee. They're a little bit overdetermined. you're a medical doctor. then ordinary therapy can be very useful for them. and that the linear. And so the Kung people. prana is an energy that precedes. Those are the avatars who we see in Jesus and Buddha and so forth. MISHLOVE: But there's a sense in which what I hear you saying is that spiritual traditions in general differ from your approach. MISHLOVE: In other words. I just think they are sort of cast in concrete. which is a little more scientific. MISHLOVE: Well. They may be in and out of that state. But secondly. MISHLOVE: So if a person were experiencing this kind of phenomenon. SANNELLA: Well. is first you have to get it in perspective.MISHLOVE: Do you find that after a period of time. you said not quite. are being misled by the supermarket of Oriental spiritual traditions that are available? SANNELLA: Oh. it sounds as if what you're saying is that normal psychotherapy. for instance. at a higher level? SANNELLA: Well. ordinarily you don't have many of them in the first place. but it lacks a lot of the very elaborate descriptions that you read about in the classical kundalini. and that's perfectly reasonable. if a person has this opening. You deal with people who are having religious experiences. our understanding of the potentials of the human being? What can Western science really learn from all of this? SANNELLA: Well. they will not probably advance on this particular path that they've chosen until they become more mature. Lee. to resolve things. you said there are physiological events going on in the brain that have been interpreted this way by these cultures. and they weren't already strongly committed to one tradition or another. usually. because they have a model which is closer to our neurophysiological model than either the Kung or the classical yoga models. often is to deal with a person on the level of their ego and how their ego is interacting with the world. from their verbal descriptions. and it may be very. Can you talk a little bit about the role in which a mental health professional would be working with a spiritual community in dealing with situations. mental health intervention.
They also can be faked. I know you and I were involved in Taoist yoga exercises together ten years ago. Do you think there's something to that argument? SANNELLA: Well. but they're also real. whether it's psychotic or whether it's genius. And of course it's all here. What kind of practices do you engage in. They're also completely off-base. MISHLOVE: You spoke earlier about a change that occurs in the brain. MISHLOVE: Many years ago a Hindu writer named Gopi Krishna wrote a book on kundalini. because I was very hardheaded as a scientist. I don't think it's very important. What you're saying is that your impetus. I think it's a valid argument.its usefulness is extremely limited and should not be indulged in endlessly and without relief. and that by practicing yoga. it's all here. I think it's always valuable to develop your real and true and transcendent aspects. How much does Western science know about this change? SANNELLA: We don't know anything about it. by definition. or an inner need of your own? . They're also exaggerated endlessly. through my active search for -MISHLOVE: Well. in my studies throughout the years. you see we are very reactive creatures. that the practice of spiritual disciplines. you name it. and we don't even believe it exists. one could awaken great intellectual powers or great musical powers. and it is hard to learn that lesson and to learn the disciplines that may help to evoke that and to make it real in yourself. MISHLOVE: You mean he might say. MISHLOVE: If I can rephrase what you're saying. yes. would be a valuable pursuit. Whatever it is. I knew intuitively that all this stuff had something to it. and that there's more in our philosophies than are dreamt of in the logical. all over the world. in every psychic area. But that's just a technical difference. as a person who has been investigating gurus and following spiritual traditions and looking at it seriously. of course. I haven't looked at them in a cursory manner. But we have a certain amount of laboratory evidence that it really does exist. and we certainly have all the clinical evidence in the world. so that you real-ize it. your desire to engage in this search. but I'd never seen it nor felt it. in this regard? SANNELLA: Oh. because he calls almost everything that is oddball kundalini. higher levels of mental functioning. SANNELLA: Oh. the abilities of great genius. MISHLOVE: Basically you might say that if individuals were really interested in reaching out and finding out what are these higher levels of brain functioning. MISHLOVE: Let me ask you a personal question. I've been in a dozen or more disciplines for years of each. SANNELLA: Well. in which he suggested that this was the force that underlies great genius. yes. You don't have to go any other place for it. which has been overdone by our science and by our medicine. for twenty years or more -SANNELLA: More than that. having a kundalini experience. make it real. by our philosophy. But I would not necessarily agree with that. So I went out and searched until I found these things and could confirm them for myself. SANNELLA: Absolutely. to know that they are real. apart from the dogmatic philosophies associated with them. But the search itself is a sign of certain fundamental work that hasn't been done in our psyches and our character and so forth. but they all have a subtle language and a subtle occurrence and a participatory aspect which most of our professionals have shunned. and even from the event of birth we have developed certain kinds of defenses and certain kinds of constrictions that push us into this ceaseless searching. because they are wonderful disciplines. as a matter of fact. And now we're going to have to learn the subtle language of all of those wonderful disciplines. linear mind. by definition Mozart had experienced kundalini. and there are a few of them that I have participated in. it's been overdone. MISHLOVE: More than that. I take certain exceptions to it. for example. I've engaged in so many different practices I would bore you to tears telling you about them. was a reflection of an inner emptiness. since you've brought this up. and they're going to have to change or they're going to have to be left behind. MISHLOVE: What is that? SANNELLA: Well.
It's all one to me. that we have tremendous resistance to surrendering and to communion with whatever you want to call it -. MISHLOVE: Without going on a thirty-year search around the world. There are visionary energies. to make the world sacred -. or -MISHLOVE: The infinite. But it is difficult at best. Lee. those unfoldings have to be speeded up a bit. SANNELLA: Yes. MISHLOVE: Dr. some of us get it in such a dramatic form that it's totally clear that that's what it is -. connected people to turn it about from its present course of craziness. and are just as essential as we are. And that is the whole thing. Lee Sannella. spiritual practice is difficult at best -. there are psychic energies. MISHLOVE: Is there some sense in which we could maybe appreciate our resistance. and without the dramatics that are necessary in some cases. I would say that's true. you've really been able to express. You said you didn't think this resistance was a good idea. but it's a part of it that we have to really learn to deal with as early as possible and as intelligently as possible. from myself. But on the other hand. Westerners are very ill equipped to do spiritual practice. even to the extent of kind of respecting it. for one thing. you find teachers or teachings that reflect in a clear. And that's not easy. yes. my insights into that particular resistance are continuing to unfold. MISHLOVE: And what you're saying actually is that there's a way of satisfying that inner need without searching all over the world. The words are just different labels. SANNELLA: Thank you. expressive. nature.a certain kind of way we reacted when we were very small to our separation from mother. and we don't have to suffer quite so much. it's a part of it. I mean. or the cosmos. from a medical point of view and from a personal point of view. There are others. and that's what we have to relearn. are there other ways? How does one get through that resistance? How does one experience the more natural state? SANNELLA: Well. let us say with a very intuitive and sensitive organism. for instance. Thank you very much for being with me. MISHLOVE: We have this resistance that we touched on earlier. which means sacred. as I'm using it. the essence. yes. or the divine. The resistance comes just from being born. I would hope that the kind of work that you're doing will help to create the world that you've just described. even at my age. the essence of spiritual search.SANNELLA: Well.in other words. but it's available. nurturing the resistance itself as being a part of our divine nature? SANNELLA: Well. they're all closely related. it is. of kundalini experience. and it's my experience. MISHLOVE: Can you talk about that a little more? SANNELLA: Well. and separation from all those other people and beings out there who are all potential enemies when they are separate from us.the Great Spirit. because they are inhabiting this planet just exactly the same as we are.every object in it. . when you have all the advantages. and beyond that. I think. but it's difficult. I would say that. when you make your world truly psychic. Western way for us Westerners what that's all about. SANNELLA: Oh. SANNELLA: The infinite. Jeffrey. And somehow. all the animals. But we are totally one with all of life. because the world needs open. and even in myself. but we don't see it that way. because I have some people. and yet it almost seems instinctive. Inner need. free. like the kundalini energy. and one that easily enters into the various psychic realms and that has energies available.
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