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ewsletter for the Point Chevalier Historical Society
o. 18, May 2011


Two photos very kindly provided by Richard Brayne: “They are of my grandfather Carl Augustin & Monty Lucas doing gymnastics on Pt Chev Beach early 1930s with Dixiland in the background. My grandparents had the first house built on the Burgess farm subdivision at 23 Harbourview Road. Carl Augustin was a speedboat builder and racer in the 1930s & ‘40s. He also had a boat building and engineering business in Federal Street, Auckland until the early 1960s. “

Meetings—2011 (all at Horticultural Centre, 990 Great orth Road, Western Springs) June 23 10.30 am (AGM) (Speaker: Scott Hamilton on Kendrick Smithyman) June 25—Reunion, 1 pm Pt Chevalier RSA August 25 10.30 am. Members time to share. To be included in this, please see the Secretary and get your name put on the list. September 28 Talk at Pt Chevalier Library on history of district’s rifle ranges October 27 10.30 am (Speaker: Dave Simmons – Maori perspective of local history) ovember 24 10.30 am (Speaker: Colin Gallagher on history of football in local area)

ext issue due out July 2011
Contact Lisa Truttman (editor) : 19 Methuen Road, Avondale, Auckland 0600, phone (09) 828-8494 or email ptchevalierhistory@gmail.com

Pt Chevalier Historical Society Minutes of meeting Thursday 28 April 2011 Auckland Horticultural Council Rooms
Meeting started at 10.30 am. Present: 34 people Apologies: Dick Pope, Edna Lovett, Lucy O’Shea, Margo Croad, Mark McVeigh Correspondence: Charlotte Museum (thanks for donation) President’s report Annual general meeting to be held on 23 June (Horticultural Headquarters) Next meeting re Pt Chevalier car park wall on 30th April Lisa Truttman (Editor Pt Chevalier Times) Sponsorship needed so magazine could be increased in size to allow publication of more articles Heather Hannah (Ray White) has agreed to sponsor a ¼ page advert I each issue (many thanks!) Treasurer’s report i) 01 account -$2666 00 account-$469 ii) Subscriptions paid so far this year-45 Guest speaker: John Fleming on the memories of a principal of Pt Chevalier Primary School Next meeting: 10.30 am Thursday 23rd June Auckland Horticultural Council Rooms Guest speaker: Scott Hamilton on Kendrick Smithyman Meeting concluded 11.45am

Memories from Ann Daniels (née Leslie)
With input from Barrie Leslie I was born 13 January 1940 and had a sister Joyce and two brothers, James Barrie (he was always known as Barrie) and Brian. In the 1930s my father and grandfather owned boats, some were yachts, which my father raced at Tauranga, where my father then lived. He wrecked some, one which was called the Lady Phyllis at Tryphena Bay or Rosina Bay at the Great Barrier Island in the Hauraki Gulf. During the depression of 1929 they would buy a boat and with my father being a carpenter, he would transform it into a yacht and save a lot of money. In 1938 the house in which my parents lived in Tauranga was destroyed by fire and my parents, elder sister Joyce and elder brother Barrie moved to a State Advances house, which had just been built in Rama Road, Point Chevalier, which was not surprising as Point Chevalier was almost surrounded by water. It was a wonderful place for children to grow up in and I have very fond memories of it as I lived there all of my childhood. On the back porch, there was a large cupboard, one for wood and one for coal which was delivered by Mr Sadgrove regularly to the house. We used it for the open fireplace in the lounge and for the copper in the

laundry, which all the white sheets and everything else that was white were put in and then they were boiled clean and then put through the wringer to get all the water out. They were then rinsed in water that had Reckitts Blue in it to keep the whites pearly white, then they would be dipped into a bowl of starch, then they were hung on the clothesline. It was then time to use the washing board to clean the clothes which was very hard on the hands. Washing day was a very big day and it was not easy to do the washing when I was a child. We had a rotary clothes line which, being normal children, we would swing on when we thought that Mum was not watching. The steel shaft of the clothesline had a hole in it and a steel peg would go into it to stop the clothesline from turning around. My sister Joyce told my brother to put his finger in the hole. Which he did and of course his finger was chopped off at the first knuckle and he had to be taken to Auckland Hospital and have it sown back on. We were so scared at the trouble that we knew that we were in, It was something that we never did again. The clothesline was out of bounds. My younger brother Brian and I would go up Berridge St to the “claypits” to play ( which is where the motorway now runs) which was where they made the bricks for the Mental Hospital at Hall corner. One day two boys threw a kitten down one of the cliffs, just for fun and laughing, we both started to run and yell at the boys, who then ran away. We rescued the poor little kitten and took it home. It was injured and my mother took it to the RSPCA. The vet said that it had a back injury, but could live a comfortable life with a lot of loving care, but it would never be able to run properly.

We named her “Honeybun” as she was a pretty honey colour. She had a long and happy life living with us. One thing my mother taught us was to be kind to animals and people. When the blackberries were in season, we would take buckets and go to Dunninghams Farm at the bottom of Walker Road, to pick (and eat) blackberries to take home to mum to make blackberry jam and pies which of course never went astray. We also went to Pikes farm, at the bottom of Smale St, where Michael Ball lived with his family, where we got milk in a bucket and eggs as well as duck eggs. When I started school in 1945 at Point Chevalier Primary School at Te Ra Road, my Primer 1 teacher was Miss Moore, who was a very kind and caring person. Having said that, it was a much different story when we were older and in the Standards, the teachers were men. If you misbehaved you would receive the strap on the hand and I would get the strap for talking in class. It certainly did no harm to us and I believe that it taught us to respect our elders. We were given a bottle of milk to drink, which even though it was kept under the sycamore tree, it was warm in summer, but we still drank it. We had a Dental Clinic at school, which was not a favourite place for me as while you were in the waiting room, you could still hear the noise of the foot treadle drill. I was a member of the School Patrol and you walked out with a round patrol sign, to stop the traffic. At that time there was not much traffic but you watched out for the trams. I was proud to be given the responsibility to get the children safely across the road. The same method is used today, with adults now doing that job and they are called Lollipop Ladies. Walker Park was where I played summer athletics and I also played baseball and basket ball. I loved sport. Point Chevalier bred two very successful runners who represented New Zealand. Today I am still friends with a few of my classmates, but unfortunately several have died. My best friend is Pam Thomson and we email twice a week. While we were attending school at Pasadena Intermediate, Pam was very interested in Fred Bedwell who played Rugby League and I liked John Sage, who was in my class and he also played League with Fred. They were in the Auckland Rugby League Schoolboy Representatives ‘A’ Team 1953. Pam said that she wanted no one but Fred and when she became older, she was going to ask him to marry her. Sure enough down the track they did marry and are still very happily married and are still my closest friends. When Point Chevalier Rugby League boys played at Walker Park, I would go and watch them play, that is where I met and married one of the players. Maurice Devonshire was also Junior Schoolboy Champion. He played in the Junior ‘A’ team for Point Chevalier. We walked everywhere. In the winter it was a quick walk in the cold, across Walker Park to get to school to warm your hands on the heating radiators. I would enjoy reading Enid Blyton’s books, so a walk to the library at Hall Corner twice a week was most enjoyable.

Ann Leslie’s wedding, 14 March 1959. Photo courtesy Ann Leslie

The Ambassador Theatre at Hall Corner was another treat that we would go to on Saturday, to watch the serials “The Perils of Pauline” and cowboy movies. At halftime you would race outside so you would not have to wait too long to be served to buy whatever you wanted. I normally would have an ice-cream or a Chocolate Fish but my favourite was the “Eskimo Pie” which was a small slab of ice-cream covered with chocolate. We would walk to play our sports, walk to our friends house, walk wherever we had to go. I cannot remember any of the children that I went to school with being overweight. I think that this was due to how active we were, as we were outside most of the time. Our backyard was a good size, so we had a vegetable garden plus fruit trees and our dad even grew mushrooms under the house. Another thing that we kids did was go to the Sunday School at the Baptist Church in Formby Avenue which we found very interesting and we met a lot of people that we knew there. We were lucky that we lived close to the Auckland Zoo and it was very exciting to have a ride on Jamuna the elephant which only cost one penny. In the morning and early nights you could hear the lions roaring and they sounded so very close that it would sometimes scare me. I loved the stories that we were told by my mother and also singing songs. My brother Barrie sang very well,

singing in many light operettas including all the Gilbert and Sullivan ones and also Brigadoon. He later trained as a tenor and sang and won many of the classes in the Auckland Eisteddfods. He did his CMT training and then joined the Territorial Army, but when he moved to Australia he decided that he would work instead of singing. My mother, being a dressmaker, sewed all of my clothes and at 14 years I started to sew my own and are still sewing today. For the annual Fancy-Dress Parades at school my mother would sew my costumes and one of my favourites was a Hungarian folk dress. I enjoyed sewing so much that I designed and made my own Wedding Dress. I would enjoy dancing at the weekend at the Point Chevalier Sailing Club and at the Point Chevalier Rugby League Club. The boys would always dress well and I would wear a dress which would have a full skirt with a lot of petticoats underneath. We could walk quite safely to go to these dances. We are still proud New Zealanders after having been in Australia for over 40 years. I am on the NSW Central Coast and Barrie is in Sydney. Barrie still retains his New Zealand passport and also assists New Zealand Veterans who live in New South Wales with applications for the New Zealand War Disablement Pension. He is

described by the Pensions Officer of the RSA in Wellington as “our man in Australia”. [Photo below is of Barrie carrying the flag, Anzac Day 2010] It is a long time since we went to school in Point Chevalier, but it is easy to remember as it was such an enjoyable time and what a great place to grow up in. If you wish to contact me you can email me on: anndaniels6@bigpond.com or you can email Barrie on: lesliejb@ozemail.com.au

Rifles and Targets : the origins of Point Chevalier
In 1923, when an issue was raised as to whether Point Chevalier district was to retain the name or not, a number of people wrote letters to newspaper editors, defending the old name, and rekindling the meaning behind it from the previous century for that of the 20th. To quote an old resident of the district who lived there during the Maori War:- “This place was named,” she said, “after Captain Chevalier, who commanded British troops during the Maori War. I myself met him. He was of French descent. I well remember the troops in this district and how Captain Chevalier had plans made of it, and the higher part of the place was known as Chevalier’s Mount.” Elspeth Hankin, Pt Chevalier, 14 November 1923, Auckland Star My childhood was spent at Point Chevalier, and I well remember the 18th Royal Irish regiment being camped on the rocky peninsula between Meola and Motion creeks. When the troops were camped on Dignan’s Point, there was also a large Maori settlement there, with grass and peach trees in the gullies. The old potato pits may still be seen. T Smith, 27 November 1923, Auckland Star Mrs Richard Walker, still living at Point Chevalier, settled there with her husband and young family in 1861. About the same year, Captain Chevalier under General Cameron with 2000 men camped on the plateau just above the beach, since known as Dignans. Mrs Walker, whose memory is very clear, gives a graphic description of what took place 60 odd years ago. She says the Point was a busy place then, with its population of 2000, and Captain Chevalier (whose mother was Irish and father French) was a gallant and popular officer. Chevalier would ride with an orderly to Walker’s homestead for eggs, and milk from the first and only cow in the district. W.M.F., Whangarei, 22 November 1923, Z Herald In 1860-61 the 65th (The 2nd Yorkshire . Riding Regiment of foot) was stationed in Auckland. George Robert Chevalier was a Lieutenant in that regiment. He was also musketry instructor and established a rifle range on the peninsula, now named Point Chevalier. He was camped there for some months prior to the regiment leaving for Taranaki in 1861 to take part in that war with the natives. The regiment used to march out in companies for rifle practice and the point was named after Lieutenant Chevalier. My uncle, James Barton, was a captain in the same regiment and as a boy I have often met Lieutenant Chevalier at my uncle’s house. C J W Barton, Hamilton, 21 November 1923 (published 23 November, Z Herald) I have had a lifelong acquaintance with the district and the following was told to me not only by old residents but by men who had been encamped with the 65th regiment on the Point. Lieutenant Chevalier paid his first visit to the district in company with the late Hon. Patrick Dignan, MLC. The visit was made for the purpose of selecting a camping ground for the 65th regiment. The site chosen was near the end of the point on the land now partly occupied by

the reserve. Other regiments were also encamped in the district at that time. Captain Mercer and a battery of six field guns were stationed just about where Mr Matson’s house now stands. From here firing practice took place, the targets being erected on the cliffs at the western end of the main beach. Rifle ranges were on the reef and on the Melanesian Trust property on the western side of the point at the foot of Target Street, where the old rifle butt is still to be seen. It was on the latter range that the incident which gave the district its name took place. There was, among the soldiers, a man named either Lieutenant or Captain Tucker, who was a noted marksman. Lieutenant Chevalier had also gained fame as a rifle shot before coming to ew Zealand. Accordingly a match was arranged between the two, the firing taking place from what is now Miss Hill’s property [Misses Ivy and May Hill had property bounded by Pt Chevalier Road, Walker Road and Neville Street until 1931]. The match created great interest among the soldiers who were present in large numbers to witness the contest. Lieutenant Chevalier proved the victor and in honour of this victory the district was given the name of Point Chevalier. This is the story as told me by old soldiers who claimed to have witnessed the match, and I think it may be accepted as being correct. I have never heard it being contradicted in any way or any version offered in its place. Charles Walker, New Lynn, 30 November 1923, Z Herald The rifle match mentioned by your correspondent, Chas. Walker, took place between Lieutenant Chevalier and Lieut. Arthur Branthways Toker (not Tucker), both of the 65th Regiment. ow it is brought to my mind I can remember the incident distinctly. It was the talk of the regiment before the match and after, and a certain amount of the pay of the admirers of Lieut. Toker was transferred to the pockets of the followers of Lieut. Chevalier. C J W Barton, Hamilton, 30 November 1923 (published 4 December, Z Herald) The story of how the name Point Chevalier came about, and the link with the rifle range down at the end of Target Street, has been passed down, and cemented by Alex Walker’s book published 50 years ago this year, Rangi-Mata-Rau, Pt Chevalier Centennial, in 1961. He wrote, about George Robert Chevalier: He became a musketry instructor to the troops stationed at Auckland in the Albert Barracks, at the time when the soldiers were marched for rifle practice to a range which had been established on the present site of Selwyn Village in Target Street, hence the name of the street. Here Chevalier won the rifle championship of the camp defeating Lieutenant Toker also of the 65ths. He obviously became something of a hero to the soldiers who called the place “Chevalier Point” in his honour. I believe that a number of pieces of the story were passed down from those who were around in the 1860s

(Mrs Walker would have been one of them), somewhat muddled in memory, and then became Point’s own legend of origin. There is still quite a bit yet to discover about what was happening at Point Chevalier and Western Springs in the late 1850s and into the 1860s. This is what I’ve been able to deduce so far. Target Street was not the site of the challenge between Chevalier and Toker. While Target Street is one of Pt Chevalier’s oldest streets, shown in a plan from 1898 (DP 1994), it wasn’t around in 1859 when “Point Chevalier” camp was first noted as a name in the newspapers (Southern Cross, 15 January). It would have resulted from the subdivision of Allotment 20 by Joseph Wright, from 1863. By the 1890s, the land at the end of Target Street, on the right hand side facing toward the harbour, was owned by the Melanesian Mission Trust Board, and the letters from 1923 describe the remains of targets still there amongst the market gardens. But this was Point Chevalier’s second rifle range, at least. The first was one specially set aside by the government for that purpose, and it was a massive one – a 127-acre chunk of what is now Western Springs, beside the Meola Creek, and stretching out beneath old quarry lands, the Auckland Zoo, the former municipal rubbish dump, and out towards the Meola Reef Reserve. The quarrying, the establishment of the zoo and the rubbish dump, and later works setting up the reef reserve have most likely completely obliterated any remains of where a suburb first gained a name, and where part of Auckland’s early military history was played out. Which is a great shame, but sadly that’s what happens with history all too often. The camp itself may have been on the peninsula itself – why else would the main road along it be dubbed Barracks Road until early in the 20th century, when it was renamed Point

Chevalier Road? But that seems a long way for men to have marched when a closer site, at the corner of what is today Great North and Motions Road, and part of the rifle range reserve, was available. Not to mention the fact that William Edgecombe, taking up an opportunity, set up his Great Northern Hotel immediately across the road from that site, opening in July 1859, which almost immediately became associated with the regiments at the time. I suspect that he wasn’t just providing a service to passing traffic, but to the hundreds of men encamped each year in the middle of virtually nowhere. T Smith’s and Charles Walker’s recollections (above), making references to the camp on the rocky peninsula between Meola and Motion’s Creeks, backs this up. Another camp is referred to, on the Dignan property – possibly a second and slightly later one, and the true origin of the name Barracks Road. Charles Walker had an intriguing reference to another rifle range “just about where Mr Matson’s house now stands”, which would put it closer to Oakley Creek, involving Captain Mercer and a battery of field artillery. This land, in the late 1850s to 1863, was owned by a Mr Hamilton, and then Alexander Cromwell of Epsom, so it may have been leased by the government for target practice. However, as the land is angled towards Waterview rather than the harbour, a rifle range there is uncertain. Again most traces will have, by now, been well erased. Captain Mercer’s field artillery wasn’t a legend, though: see timeline below. The G R Chevalier connection with the Point In late October 1858, Ensign G R Chevalier (not a lieutenant at that stage) arrived in Auckland from Wellington on the Emily Alison. In January 1859, we see the first documented use of the name “Point Chevalier”, in a tender advertisement for cartage to and from the camp. This left very little time during which Ensign Chevalier could have challenged Lieutenant Toker (who was the musketry instructor for the area, and a fellow member of the 65th regiment) to that notable target competition. So many memories associated Ensign Chevalier, who definitely was a crack marksman in his own right, with the suburb’s name; it is difficult to prise him away from that association. There is simply, at the moment, neither documentation proving the story, nor anything disproving it. The 65th regiment, under Toker, may have gone out to Western Springs and the government reserve there in November or December 1858, set up a trial set of targets, and Chevalier won on the day, this giving the approved site a name it didn’t have before then. Most of the personal recollections of Ensign, later Lieutenant, Chevalier in connection with the Point come from those who were children at the time of the early 1860s – apart from those recalling what Mrs Walker

apparently told them. In her case, the Walker family arrived at the eastern edge of Western Springs in 1861, Richard Walker working initially at the Low & Motion mill, before possibly taking up land on lease at Point Chevalier itself later in the decade. In February 1861, Lieutenant Chevalier was in Taranaki. He arrived back in Auckland in June that year, attended a levee for Governor Sir George Grey in October in the city, and left again in February 1862. From December 1861, troops were leaving both Pt Chevalier and Otahuhu camps to head towards Maungatawhiri. Whether he was ever at Camp Point Chevalier long enough, if at all that year, to “ride with an orderly to Walker’s homestead for eggs, and milk from the first and only cow in the district” remains unknown. A timeline for Point Chevalier’s rifle ranges and military camps, 1859-1871 1859 January First known documented use of the name “Point Chevalier”, in a government tender notice for cartage to the site. July William Edgecombe completes his Great Northern Hotel (site of the Auckland Horticultural Society rooms today). 1861 January At this point, the camp at Pt Chevalier appears to be one which remains in place all year. Tender notices for cartage and firewood are issued in January, July and October. December Drafts of men, trained at the Pt Chevalier Camp and other camps, leave for Maungatawhiri. 1862 June & October A land advertisement, possibly for the Westmere area (3 miles from Auckland) refers to the encampment at Pt Chevalier, “being the place chosen for the Barracks and Garrison Buildings.” October Around 700 men are gathered at the Pt Chevalier camp for rifle practice. On Saturday last, a number of officers and soldiers were marched to Point Chevalier, for musketry instruction, and a second body are to be moved thither on the 6th ovember. The number of officers and men told off for instruction in the various regiments is as follows — 14th Regiment, 4 officers, 250 men ; 40th, 7 officers, 180 men; 60th, 3 officers, 194 men ; and 70th regiment, 7 officers and 141 men ; making a total of 23 officers and 705 men. (Southern Cross, 3 November 1862) The camp at that stage included a company mess. December A fortnight of practice with shot and shell at Point Chevalier Camp, including practice by the Royal Artillery, under Captain Mercer, using Armstrong guns at a maximum range of 1600 yards. The target were two model pa constructed to determine how much damage the Armstrong guns could do to Maori defences in the Waikato. The distance required for the firing points to

Western Springs as the site used. 1863 January It was intended that all troops in Auckland at this point, both Imperial regiment and conscripted militia, were to be “under canvas at Point Chevalier for a portion of the year.” Commissariat tenders appear for bread and firewood for the Pt Chevalier camp. 1864-1865 Over this period, tender advertisements for supply to the camp at Point Chevalier cease. It is likely that the summer season of 1865-1866 is the last one for an encampment of troops in the area. The last known advertisement for firewood there is in September 1865. By now, the smaller rifle range at Target Street is likely in use for annual firing practice, the military camp possibly now located at the end of Point Chevalier peninsula itself. Target Street is first recorded in an advertisement for subdivided sections, August 1864. Barrack Street is referred to in June 1865. In 1867, Valentine Blagrove, who farmed on the land right next to the likely site of this second range, complained about stray shots to the newspapers (Southern Cross, 11 February 1867) 1867 February The old rifle range at Western Springs is offered for lease at public auction. William Motion obtains the lease, at £20 per annum. The northern-most 75 acres (including Meola Reef) was gazetted in 1874 as a Lunatic Asylum reserve, and would have been leased out to both local farmers and for quarrying (the Auckland Harbour Board quarried there from 1873). In 1941, it became a municipal quarry reserve. The remainder fronting Great North Road became a hospital reserve by around 1871, providing income for Auckland Hospital, and Motions Road dates from around that time. From 1875, the dominant land user in the area became Auckland City Council; in 1922 the Auckland Zoo was built over part of the old range site, erasing many old stone walls and remains of the range. 1871 ovember After a number of years of use by volunteer corps, complaints about distance, inconvenience, and the weather at Point Chevalier, the rifle range at or near Target Street is abandoned, save for one remaining set of targets for a 300-yard range. —Lisa Truttman

Readers respond:
Regarding Tinkerbell Jellies, in last issue ... Dear Lisa, Below is some information I have managed to gather together that may shed some light on the Tinkerbell Jellies. Tinkerbell Jellies were made by McClymont’s Confections. Alan McClymont was a player and later manager for NZ rugby league in France before World War II. This meant travel by boat to Europe and the team was away a long time. My mother’s best friend was Alan’s wife Margaret. They had son, Fred, and a daughter, Joan. They lived in Balmoral Rd near the junction of St Andrews Rd, Epsom. Alan started a business delivering blocks of ice to people in the 1940s, before fridges were available. I can remember large blocks being delivered to neighbours. Later he branched out into sweets and jellies which I can still remember being sold in Four Square shops. They later built a new house at St Heliers and we slowly lost contact with them. Mrs McClymont got M. S. and died about 3 years after they moved. In the early 1950s Alan McClymont retired and neither his son or daughter were interested in carrying on the business. (My sister, Margaret, thinks it may have been sold to Tuckers, who were great friends of the McClymonts. Tuckers were well known for their packaged soups.) Graham Pearce Dear Lisa, … I was particularly interested in the latest Times, in the article about Tinkerbell Jellies in the triangular packet. I do remember Tinkerbell Jellies, as do a number of people I know in my age group. We always had Tinkerbell Jellies and as far as I can remember they were very tasty. What was unusual was that the crystals were not flavoured as there was what was called a Tastebud in among the crystals and as far as I can remember it was in the shape of a bell. When you poured the boiling water over the crystals and bud, the bud dissolved. I do not remember when Tinkerbell Jellies went off the market. I do vaguely remember there was a McClymonts factory in Pt Chevalier, but I cannot remember where it was or when it was demolished. Leonie Baird

Readers respond:
In the late 1940s one of my friends was Michael Ball who lived with his parents (and elder sister?) at Pikes Farm with the entrance from the end of Smale St, before it was extended past Hawea Rd. They had cows, chickens and ducks and many times Michael and I would ride on the young heifers and get thrown off. I presume that they also had a bull, which would account for the heifers. I also learnt how to hand milk the cows and often took fresh creamy milk, hen and duck eggs home.

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There was a little creek running through the fields which started from the left hand side of Smale St just before it rose up to Hawea Rd and Michael and I often dammed it and did all the things that young boys do with a dam. It seemed to start from underneath Berridge St and whether it was a natural spring or whether it was a creek that was covered up and then the houses and flats built on top of it, I do not know. It was a very steep drop to get from Smale St down to the creek and if it had been raining, you got down to it very fast. It ran past the old farmhouse, which as I remember was an old Colonial style with attic bedrooms and a very large room which was the kitchen and eating area. There were lots of sheds on the farm with all sorts of interesting things to play with. It is a shame that all of that is now gone, swallowed up by the motorway. Barrie Leslie.

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