1

1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE

2ND JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN
2 AND FOR LEON COUNTY, FLORIDA
3 CASE NO. 2016-CF-3036
2018-CF-0497
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5
STATE OF FLORIDA,
6
Plaintiff,
7
v.
8
KATHERINE MAGBANUA,
9
Defendant.
10 ____________________________/
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12
13 IN RE: RECORDED AUDIO
LENGTH OF AUDIO: 15:10
14
DATE: APRIL 20, 2016
15
TIME: (UNKNOWN)
16
LOCATION: DULCE RESTAURANT
17 1690 COLLINS AVENUE
MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA
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19 TRANSCRIBED BY: YVONNE LaFLAMME, RPR, FPR
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APEX REPORTING, INC.
22 P.O. BOX 5785
TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA 32314
23 (850) 597-5185
apexreportingservices@gmail.com
24 tallycourtreporting.com
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1 P R O C E E D I N G S
2 Recorded Audio file transcribed by
3 YVONNE LaFLAMME, Registered Professional Reporter
4 Notary Public in and for State of Florida at Large
5 in the above cause.
6 -- -- -- --
7 (Beginning of audio.)
8 CHARLES ADELSON: So what do you think?
9 There's no way my mom's gonna call this guy up,
10 because you've got understand, he needs to know
11 that it's gonna go down one of two ways: Like,
12 you're either fucking with me or you're fucking
13 with the police; pick which one.
14 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: 22. (Unintelligible.) --
15 80 years -- (unintelligible) -- me --
16 (unintelligible) -- can you even tell me --
17 (unintelligible.)
18 CHARLES ADELSON: He didn't threaten. He
19 said -- he said -- he said Tuto is incarcerated and
20 I know your family -- and he helped your family
21 out, and I know you've been helping Katie out.
22 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: Been helping Katie out?
23 CHARLES ADELSON: Your family's been
24 helping -- your family has been helping Katie out
25 and his family needs some help now. And I was,

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1 like, I don't know what you're talking about. And

2 he says, like, well, maybe this will help explain
3 it to you; call me. And he handed it to her.
4 He did not go through that trouble of finding
5 her and putting that thing together and handing it
6 to her without -- and then he's just gonna go away?
7 He ain't going away.
8 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: -- with you.
9 CHARLES ADELSON: What's that?
10 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible) because
11 number one --
12 CHARLES ADELSON: What's that?
13 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible.) I said
14 I've spoken to you since number one I -- shit.
15 CHARLES ADELSON: Listen, if it's the cops --
16 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible.) And
17 number two, I don't want somebody fucking --
18 (unintelligible) -- your mom and like --
19 (unintelligible.)
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22 CHARLES ADELSON: Well, the problem is, if you
23 give in to, like, if my mom meets him, it's, like,
24 Oh, yeah, okay, I'll meet you tomorrow in front of
25 the (unintelligible) building, and he just drives

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1 up and she hands him 5 Gs, what the fuck do you

2 think is gonna happen next month? It's gonna be,
3 "Oh, he needs your help again." You know what I
4 mean? And the thing is, if my parents were really
5 guilty, they may think that they have a big fish on
6 the line that's gonna pay them monthly, and all
7 they have to do is scare this little, old lady.
8 And who is she gonna go to? She's gonna go to the
9 cops? She's guilty as hell.
10 You have to let 'em know that these people are
11 not afraid of going to the cops. They've got
12 nothing to hide. Okay? So you're the one they
13 reached out to and they said -- you need to say
14 that they reached out to me because you mentioned
15 my name.
16 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible) -- why
17 would you ever think -- (unintelligible) -- want to
18 reach out -- (unintelligible) -- somebody that
19 obviously -- (unintelligible) -- you know that --
20 (unintelligible) that would have been more like
21 personal -- (unintelligible) -- with this whole
22 thing -- (unintelligible) -- your mom.
23 CHARLES ADELSON: I'm more afraid of the
24 long-term, like, knock at the door again and again
25 and again and again. This is --

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1 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible.)

2 CHARLES ADELSON: Why not? Because I don't
3 think they want to mess with the -- does he still
4 have his connections?
5 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: Yeah.
6 CHARLES ADELSON: Is he, like, so far removed
7 that he's -- (unintelligible) -- like he's --
8 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: Yes, of course.
9 CHARLES ADELSON: He is -- (unintelligible) --
10 he doesn't have -- (unintelligible) -- he doesn't
11 have anybody that he can call up that's, like --
12 (unintelligible).
13 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: Like, yeah.
14 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: Yeah.
15 CHARLES ADELSON: You -- listen, you giving
16 somebody some money is not an admission of any kind
17 of guilt. Like, it's, like -- listen, if you gave
18 me money now -- (unintelligible) -- this is the one
19 and only time -- (unintelligible) -- I don't know
20 what this is about. I'm just telling you... you
21 know how you can say things without saying it?
22 Like, just the way he said it, like, he said: He
23 needs your help, he was there for you, and his
24 family needs your help now.
25 Yeah. But he just, he -- (unintelligible) --

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1 he didn't want to -- he didn't want to scare her.

2 He didn't scare her. But just his presence -- you
3 have to understand, his presence -- my mom had
4 diarrhea all night. She hasn't been eating and
5 she's been up since 2:00 in the morning with
6 diarrhea. Like, how do you think that feels with
7 my mom's 65 years old and up since two in the
8 morning with fucking diarrhea?
9 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: Who -- (unintelligible.)
10 (Unintelligible.)
11 CHARLES ADELSON: (Unintelligible.) I don't
12 know.
13 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Inaudible.)
14 CHARLES ADELSON: My head was -- when I was
15 leaving the house, I literally had the bag out and
16 I had it in my car with my car keys.
17 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible.)
18 CHARLES ADELSON: I know, well, if you want,
19 you guys can swing by my house later.
20 So what are we doing?
21 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible.)
22 CHARLES ADELSON: I want you to take it back,
23 write the number down, and I'm going to give you
24 cash. And I want you to talk to -- 7-12. What?
25 65-70. There can't be that many people --

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1 (unintelligible.) (Unintelligible) -- if it's a

2 real number. I mean, the guy didn't have glasses
3 or a hat. Can I tell you something else, also?
4 Yeah, what's -- what's shocking, too, is that --
5 you, well, so they could see who it is --
6 (unintelligible) -- let me just put it this way,
7 he's -- (unintelligible) -- thinking he's
8 blackmailing somebody. You're putting yourself out
9 there to catch a mole. Because when you're
10 blackmailing someone, someone's got a couple
11 options: To either take care of you or hey, okay,
12 you're blackmailing somebody who was -- had no
13 problem possibly doing bad things? Blackmail
14 somebody who were banging their secretary, okay,
15 not -- blackmail somebody over fucking, like --
16 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible.)
17 CHARLES ADELSON: My office --
18 (unintelligible) my office in the morning and then
19 I'm in Westin in the afternoon. I know. I'm going
20 to in to do a special case for someone.
21 Umm, but it's, like, if you're going to --
22 like, if you're going to blackmail someone,
23 blackmail someone that's cheating on their wife.
24 Don't come -- because the thing is, there's --
25 (unintelligible) -- these are the big boys. Like,

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1 if this is what it actually -- (unintelligible) --

2 this is what I'm saying here -- (unintelligible) --
3 this is what it's actually revolving around, okay.
4 It's actually revolving around this horrible --
5 KATHERINE MAGBANUA: (Unintelligible.)
6 CHARLES ADELSON: So this is what I'm saying.
7 If you're blackmailing somebody who potentially had
8 the ability to get something like this done, you've
9 got a fucking set of balls, because they may make
10 you shut up real quick, which makes me think
11 without a doubt he's not the only -- he didn't come
12 there alone. He came there with somebody else.
13 You know what I'm saying?
14 And then this is the next thing. You ready?
15 What about -- so what if his homeboys wants some
16 money? All he does is he walks up and he goes,
17 "Uh, Ms. Adelson? So and so's family needs help."
18 Meanwhile, this dude's family ain't getting shit.
19 We just get a bunch of scumbags knocking on my door
20 going, "Somebody needs help." Well, guess what? I
21 don't have anything to do with what happened down
22 there; you don't; I don't know anyone who does; I
23 don't know who Tuto even fucking is, okay? Like, I
24 don't know these people.
25 So my point is, the problem is, once you pay,

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1 you're gonna get every fucking Tom, Dick and Harry

2 showing up, going, "Hey, somebody needs help." Go
3 to the fucking police. I don't care. Go to the
4 police. Tell them what you know. I'll tell them
5 what I know: Nothing. Because I don't --
6 (unintelligible) -- FBI -- (unintelligible) -- five
7 in the morning. Hey, you know who this is coming
8 from? Inside. I don't know anybody that's got
9 that -- that facial hair. Just the five-day
10 shadow.
11 (End of recording.)
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1 CERTIFICATE
2
3 STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF LEON )
4
5
6 I, YVONNE LaFLAMME, RPR, FPR, certify that I
7 was authorized to and did stenographically transcribe
8 this written transcript from the playback of audio file;
9 that I was not present during the proceedings; and that
10 the foregoing transcript was transcribed and has been
11 done so to the best of my ability from what was clearly
12 audible.
13
14 I further certify that I am not a relative,
15 employee, attorney, or counsel of any of the parties,
16 nor am I a relative or employee of any of the parties'
17 attorney or counsel connected with the action, nor am I
18 financially interested in the action.
19
20 DATED this 6th day of APRIL, 2022.
21
22
23 _________________________
24 YVONNE LaFLAMME, RPR, FPR
Court Reporter
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