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Maenads, Women Followers of Dionysus
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Maenads, Women Followers of Dionysus
The first Maenads were the nymphs who had nursed the infant Dionysus. When he grew older he was able to convince these nymphs to join in a type of divine madness. Later he was able to convert women to this madness with estatic revelry and wine. The goal of this activity was not promiscuity and drunkeness, but rather insight and prophesy. Not everyone was capable of the goal and some fell into promiscuity and drunkeness because of their weakness. Euripides in The Bacchae suggests that the first Maenads were the nurses of Zeus, line 120,
Hail thou, O Nurse of Zeus, O Caverened Haunt Where fierce arms clanged to guard God's cradle rare, For thee of old some crested Corybant First woke in Cretan air The wild orb of our orgies, Our Timbrel; and thy gorges Rang with this strain; and blended Phrygian chant And sweet keen pipes were there.
But of course the nurses of Zeus (The Corybants) were men. name 'Maenad' means 'mad woman' from Indo-European 'men-1', 'To think' and relates to Greek words for madness. The second part of the word may relate to 'dhes-' which has a religious context. This is consistent with their ability to prophesy. Mostly words based on 'men-2' have changed to 'mn' as in 'mnemonic' in Greek. So it is possible that 'maenad' is an older word in the Greek language. This is inconsistent with the idea that the cult of Dionysus came from Minoan Crete. Likewise the word 'orgy' seems to have IndoEuropean roots as well. The word 'orgy' means 'frenzied action' from Indo-European 'werg-1', 'To do' and 'ya-', 'To be aroused' The wand that is associated with the maenads, the thyrsus, may also be IndoEuropean if it means 'planting pole' from Indo-European 'dher-2','To hold firmly, support' and 'se-1', 'To sow'. But the name 'Dionysus' seems not to be Indo-European. In fact the meaning 'twice born' seems just a close approximation of the name. If 'twice born were translated into Indo-European it would result in 'Dwogenesis' So what we have may be a Minoan cult that has been described in Indo-European terms. Maenads may also be referred to as Bacchantes, Bacchae, and Mimallones. These words do not seem to be Indo-European. Actually there is very little reference in ancient literature to the term 'maenad' so it seems mostly to be a
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As they wandered they picked up human converts who joined them. This feeling is the ecstasy that is the stated goal of the activity." which is translated. The phrase used is " ἀεὶ Διόνυσος ἐμβατεύει θεαῖς ἀμφιπολῶν τιθήναις. LEFT: Maenad dancing toward ecstasy on a beach in the moonlight A thyrsus is a wand wreathed in ivy and vine-leaves with a pine cone at the top carried by the devotees of Dionysus. inhibitions and clothing are loosened and discarded. or struck tambourines. A heightened mental and emotional state is achieved during which new ideas appear and insights are gained into one's place in the cosmos. The worship of Dionysus is often described as an orgy. the ivy symbolizes eternal life and resurrection. The nymphs who nursed the infant Dionysus became the first Maenads. One interesting reference to the Maenads is in Oedipus Tyrannus by Sophocles line 211. Μαινάδων ὁμόστολον ruddy Bacchus to whom Bacchants cry In this passage Sophocles mixes use of words for Bacchus and Maenads while the translator refuses to do so. The vineleaves refer to wine and its effects. As the activity becomes more intense. Like other evergreens. In this state if they caught a wild animal or even a human they would tear it to pieces and then devour it.Maenads. Since sexual intercourse is also accompanied by such feelings it is thought http://www. played double flutes. and drinking of wine. οἰνῶπα Βάκχον εὔιον. Pan often bragged that he had sex with all the Maenads.html[09/03/2011 8:28:03 PM] . "Here the reveller Dionysus ever walks the ground. companion of the nymphs that nursed him. They sometimes would achieve a frenzied state that was quite dangerous. It begins with music.fjkluth. 'goddesses'. The pinecone tipped staff is a phallic symbol that indicates the fertility nature of the rite. These symbols suggest the meaning of the activity of the maenads. A fawn skin or feline skin and ecstatic dance are other characteristics of Maenads. The Maenads denied this and are often shown rejecting the advances of a satyr or Pan. The worship included orgies of the male and female followers. When he grew to manhood he was able to impart to these women a divine madness that they enhanced with wine. In Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles. They involved in various sexual activities not just to stimulate fertility of the earth but also to achieve ecstacy. They would wander about in a drunken revel. But it seems that temporary converts also participated.com/maenad. They carried thyrsus staffs and wore wreaths of ivy on their heads. Women Followers of Dionysus term of convenience. This is an obvious reference to the original maenads who are here referred to as 'θεαῖς'. They dressed in thin skimpy outfits or nothing at all. We can assume that the nymphs who attend Dionysus are permanent participants in Dionysian revels along with the silenoi. They danced. Most illustrations of it make it look more like a staff than a wand. dancing.
Maenads. The nymphs who are present can participate in these activities without fear of consequences because any pregnancy that results is intentional and part of some divine plan.html[09/03/2011 8:28:03 PM] . The rending of animals is an expression of that continuity. Women Followers of Dionysus to be appropriate also. It may be that they have their origin as priestesses of that culture. LEFT: Dionysian Orgy The activity of the Maenads seems to relate to the religion of the Minoan culture.fjkluth.com/maenad. But mortal women who participate may acquire an unintended pregnancy. The art of that culture has been shown to demonstrate a concern for the continuity of life. It was believed that the rending released the life force of the animal in a way that allowed it to be absorbed by the worshiper when the raw flesh of the victim was eaten by the http://www. This was a special concern for ancient Greek men because the paternity of the baby was impossible to establish in the context of an orgy where the female might have a number of sexual partners. The unfortunate result was that these babies might end up exposed or sold into slavery.
Maenads. with their hands on one another's wrists. and the sexual activity may have been carried out to stimulate an epiphany. The Maenads can be related to priestesses who danced before the victims in a way that would excite the bull to rend them by goring and tossing them. The maidens wore robes of light linen.html[09/03/2011 8:28:03 PM] . in the Iliad makes a reference to Ariadne when he describes the Shield of Achilles (Book XVIII): "Furthermore he wrought a green. himself sacrificed by the priestesses in an attempt to bring the life force of the bull upon them. like that which Daedalus once made in Cnossus for lovely Ariadne. Such an event may have been important to certify that the Minoan people had received the favor of their deities. Cronus' son made her immortal and ageless for his sake. as it were a potter sitting at his work and making trial of his wheel to see whether it will run. "the gift of much-cheering http://www. Homer. and the youths well-woven shirts that were slightly oiled. and much people was gathered joyously about the green. and sometimes they would go all in line with one another. Dionysus can be identified with the bull of Minoan religion and the Minotaur of Greek Myth. Minos' daughter. Ariadne probably performed without wine while the men drank wine in the symposium. Hesiod does not mention maenads but he does connect Dionysus and Ariadne. The Minoan religious worship seems to place a strong emphasis on the witness of epiphany. the wine. while two tumblers went about performing in the midst of them when the man struck up with his tune. Hereon there danced youths and maidens whom all would woo. The bull was then. Theogony. There was a bard also to sing to them and play his lyre.com/maenad.fjkluth." This scene can be compared to that of a symposium as illustrated on Greek vases. In the symposium the women are dancing and singing for entertainment. while the young men had daggers of gold that hung by silver baldrics. A consistent interpretation of the Minotaur myth is that he rent his victims when he devoured them." In the Works and Days . The girls were crowned with garlands. It should be noted that bulls are much more capable of rending their victims than Maenads would be. line 947 "Goldenhaired Dionynus made blonde Ariadne. sometimes they would dance deftly in a ring with merry twinkling feet. his vigorus wife. Both the dancing. Ariadne is not usually condsidered a maenad yet she definately participates in maenad-like activities. Ariadne performed in the day while the symposium was held at night when the orgies were supposedly held. These have certainly been used by other cultures for this purpose. Wine might have been given to the women so they would dance in in a more wild manner. Women Followers of Dionysus worshipper. line 614 of wine Hesiod says.
The information presented here supports the idea that the worship of Dionysus has its roots in the Minoan Religion. "Yea. This would be another option to the rending of the victim by the bull mentioned earlier. slipping back and forth between the realms of wildness and civilization. He says "Chapman.Maenads. It is identical to the acquisition of manna.html[09/03/2011 8:28:03 PM] . One wonders how they could be interpreted as Maenads. Lyssa's name means "canine madness. Descartes came up with a philosophy in the 17th Century treating animals as automatons that would have approved of rending animals. Hera.fjkluth.and the shouldered severed!--Not by might Of arm. and Artemis. He seems to have brought back to Athens the worship of Athena." This passage is interesting because it uses the word 'Βάκχαις' and references the Maenads as a martial group led by the god.  ἐξ οὗτε Βάκχαις ἐστρατήγησεν θεός. The description of Meanads by Euripides in his Bacchae is an extreme portrayal that plays on the fear of the Athenian male that women are basically uncontrolable. Christians and others rejected this practice on theological grounds. λαγὼ δίκην Πενθεῖ καταρράψας μόρον:" Translated as "Bromius has held the region —I do not forget him— ever since he. Homer uses the word for maenad in the Iliad to describe Andromache and her waiting maids when they with the worship of Dionysus. οὐδ᾽ ἀμνημονῶ. Now it is no longer felt to be a humane treatment of animals. as a god. Modern science has revealed that the eating of raw flesh often involves the ingestion of parasites that can be quite harmful. In the Eumenides of Aeschylus there is line 24: "Βρόμιος ἔχει τὸν χῶρον. I have bound upon the necks of them The harness of my rites. http://www. hath this my magic goaded out. Aphrodite. In this play Dionysus has forced the women of Thebes to become Maenads as he says. led the Bacchantes in war. It strikes me that the lightning strike of Semele would allow her body to be rent easily. But today persons who may reject Christianity and are seeking other alternatives cannot explore rending as a theological alternative. Pollan argues. But it is not a physical act as Euripides states. It seems that when Theseus went to Minoa he stopped the practice of human sacrifice. The worship that the Maenads exhibit can be explored further. And them all The seed of womankind from hut and hall Of Thebes. set hard against his side her foot." and she is the Greek underworld goddess who drove her dogs through the world proding the divine intoxication of the Maenads to destructive fury." Eventually the maenads rend Pentheus. Drew.  and contrived for Pentheus death as of a hunted hare. Hesiod and Homer may have been familiar with the worship of Dionysus and they use terms that relate to aspects of that worship. Dionysus was a figure of the fluid margins. but he did not destroy the deities... At Click here reviews Michael Pollan's Botany of Desire . Women Followers of Dionysus Dionysus". as the God made light Her hand's essay.com/maenad. but easily. was America's Dionysus: 'Like Johnny Appleseed. This may conflict the general notion that the religion of Minoa was goddess oriented. The belief that rent animals give up a life force is quite similar to the notions of sacrifice and sacrament. Round his left arm she put Both hands. So this cannot be a model for regular practice. Even the worship of the bull is thought to relate to the fact that a physical vagina resembles the head of a bull. What seems more likely is that the priestesses in the Minoan culture were very important but that the deities may have been of both sexes. but they could have danced their way into the heart of Theseus. But the descripition of Maenads in the context in which they are familiar must await Euripides. Recently Dionysus has been compared to Johnny Appleseed. She is the daughter of Nyx. Whether the Maenads here are divine or mortal is not clear.
in Naxos Mystis Hippa Macris Antiope Agave Autonoe "The tombstone of Alcmeionis. to Dionysus. and Cleis.fjkluth. This is a perfect story of satrifice as betrothal that is met with Iphigenia and Polyxenia. chief maenad in Miletus around 200 BCE announces that she knows her share of the blessings'-. Muslim suicide bombers cannot be considered a condemnation of Islam. never having a permanent address during his entire adult life . He may have thrown her overboard at Athena's insistence. a form of divine madness. Yet the idea of a religious event that inspires madness is a good one. 173 Price and Kearns Oxford Dictionary of Classical Myth and Religion. as the Muslim extremists easily demontrate when they are suicide bombers. Even today some people look to this type of speech for prophecy as was done in an ancient Greek orgy. When he came to life she was apotheosized for her sacrifice and became his bride in heaven. Though this story is only suggested by the literature.." The idea of an emphasis on wild nature is good. Nor did they probably know that it was she that had brought about the death of their god. But Ariadne was the sister of the Minotaur and may have been betrothed to him. In this context her story fits a classic tragedy with her life a struggle against overwheming odds and her final apotheosis. but he also cautions about religion taken to such an extreme. man and god. Rather they are just the example of extreme religiosity that Euripides was warning us about.com/maenad.he was a roving woodland spirit who roamed the early frontier. Rather the validity of it must be sought in other areas. She was the perfect sacrifice victim because to the Meanads she had no identity and no status yet they could see that she was young and beautiful and a perfect gift for the god. The Drama by Euripides Bacchae details his fate at the hands of the http://www. These Maenads were trying to resurrect the dead god Dionysus." p. It may be that this is the type of religious excess that Euripides deals with in his horrifying drama The Bacchae . Women Followers of Dionysus man and woman. Ariadne could have been the very sacrifice they needed to bring Dionysus to life. But without a great deal of control the promise of their dance will collapse into a morass of evil and guilt. Any message spoken by the god was revealed in drama. Reference Victims of Maenads Ariadne -. Divine madness taken as truth is a horrifying mistake.html[09/03/2011 8:28:03 PM] . still it fits what seems to be the mentality of the time.. a figure able to dissolve all the rigid and hostile barriers between nature and culture. clad in robes. Prophesy itself may be a religious extreme if taken on faith. She was probably in despair from her abandonment when she found and orgy in progress on Naxos. Such divine madness may reference original ideas relevant to the time but these ideas need more careful consideration. And her despair made her a willing victim. and was known to harbor some wild-eyed Swedenborgian religious ideals in many ways closer to a pantheistic naturism than to Protestant Christianity. The vision of dancing Maenads is seductive. So in fact they sacrificed Ariadne. "Barefoot. But Dionysus was not a preacher. The beauty of the story inpired many works of art in ancient times. Pentheus -. Coronis.' " He goes on to say.Maenads. When she washed up on the shore of Naxos she was nude and disoriented from her ordeal and ready to sacrifice. his betrothed bride.King of Thebes. In The Bacchae Euripides does confirm the importance of religion. Theseau took Ariadne from Crete but abandoned her on Naxos on his way home. When she arrived on Naxos she probably was stripped of her clothing and identity by her ordeal in the water. On the western frontier many an evangelist witnessed speaking in tongues.Ariadne fell in love with Theseus and saved him from the Minotaur.a veiled reference to her eschatalogical hopes. Possible names of Maenads: Ino Athamas Philia.. He may also have married a child bride. Little did they know that she had already been betrothed to the Minotaur who was the same as Dionysus. beast and man.
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