Protest on Wall Street NY USA



This is a transcript from a conversation between people interested, participating and involved in the protest on Wall Street NY, USA. The protest started September 17th This conversation was recorded on Sunday September 25th [11:31] == Justice_ [b2c4ed95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:31] == macrocosm [] has joined #occupywallst [11:31] <amon_nyc> I'll be armed, today. [11:31] <amon_nyc> With my camera. [11:31] <hetonog> last time i saw news bubble up like this it had effect [11:31] <amon_nyc> And my ukulele (: [11:31] <muppscott> hi everyone [11:32] <amon_nyc> howdy [11:32] <macrocosm> someone thats 60 should know all about news black outs [11:32] * hetonog waves [11:32] <invientjt> hi muppscott [11:33] == keith [4ca93c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [11:33] <raininja> OH SHOOT Buddha__DOX [11:33] <@Buddha__> lol [11:33] == oneofninetynine [4570508b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:33] <crazymick> anyone on the ground that will be uploading this convo w/Chris Hedges? [11:33] <oneofninetynine> hi all, did anyone see bloomberg on meet the press this morning? [11:33] == Justice_ [b2c4ed95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [11:33] <macrocosm> nope [11:33] <macrocosm> what did he say? [11:34] <hetonog> he's still sayin' [11:34] <oneofninetynine> thats what im trying to find out :) [11:34] == fffffff [43ac23f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:34] == smokeyjo [43e02b4e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:34] == greekcabanaboy [6168a01d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:34] == fffffff [43ac23f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [11:34] <smokeyjo> What can we do on a grassroots level locally??? [11:35] <raininja> oneofninetynine: clevernick [11:35] == Menace13 [] has joined #occupywallst [11:35] <raininja> smokeyjo: [11:35] == max_ [cfed5dfb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:35] == justmyop [46655865@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:35] == bond07 [4618d694@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:35] <macrocosm> live stream issues? [11:35] <hot> tell your family about it [11:35] <hot> talk with them [11:35] == bond07 [4618d694@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [11:35] <greekcabanaboy> Everyone Sign the petition so we are publicity noticed !!! [11:35] <hot> show your friends [11:35] <hot> make people aware

[11:35] <postule8> smokeyjo. organize donation. contribute things on the needed list [11:35] <oneofninetynine> raininja: you too! [11:35] == illusttatedpoet [473c0d8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:36] <max_> hows the scene in the park [11:36] <greekcabanaboy> it only takes 30 seconds to create an account... [11:36] == illusttatedpoet [473c0d8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [11:37] == max_ [cfed5dfb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [11:37] <muppscott> hi <invientjt> how r things [11:37] <smokeyjo> Thanks. "I like the term rebellion" [11:38] == hot [ae37221f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [11:39] == Grayly [62a3eefb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:39] <macrocosm> are the unions going to show today to protest? I heard talk of that yesterday [11:40] <invientjt> <muppscott> good, I havent been down to the denver protest yet, but im going today... last I heard 30 people were down there, along with some enviormental protesters. [11:40] <muppscott> so, i created this twitter to help get the word out and hopefully trend occupy wall street in the US, I need a picture, any suggestions [11:40] <macrocosm> bbc .. is total rubbish [11:40] == Smoke_and_Steam [45b4e30d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [11:41] == cgrapski [3258712d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:41] <cgrapski> Hello [11:41] <macrocosm> so true .. but the tv is nice to watch movies too .. but agreed tv makes sheeple [11:42] <invientjt> muppscott, makes sure you use positive ones... like ga meeting pictures... and obsurdity ones, like the grandmothers getting arrested pic [11:42] <hetonog> s/tv/torrent/ [11:42] == Vampire1812 [cffac64a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:42] == jenisis [42570792@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [11:42] <Vampire1812> grrrrrrrr [11:42] == Druidian [62c9619b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:42] <cgrapski> Is there any effort going on regarding the videotaped incident of the women behind the barracade getting maced? [11:43] <Trykz> tv only produces sheeple when people can't think for themselves, and separate the bullshit from the minimal factual information [11:43] <Druidian> headcount in ny? [11:43] <Vampire1812> Some say its a city of 11 million [11:43] <hetonog> Trykz: cut the chaff and you get little left [11:43] <Peace> thanks @buddha_ i just added to some of my 'lists' [11:44] <smokeyjo> Get photos of the rebellion on Occupywallstreet FB page. [11:44] == Druidian [62c9619b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [11:44] <Trykz> exactly.... but there is always a tiny fraction of fact in the bullshit.... you just need the ability to identify it [11:44] == postule8 [51659dc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [11:44] <smokeyjo> No TV here...and lovin it. [11:44] <hetonog> the best lies have an element of truth to them

[11:44] == UMDdiamondback [60e7c182@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:44] <Trykz> right [11:44] <muppscott> <invientjt> <smokeyjo> any one inparticular [11:44] == nassau [4096ef9c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:45] <macrocosm> he is quite correct on the live stream [11:45] <beamer_> guys you got to listen to this former reports speaks at [11:45] <invientjt> fbid=206586446075794&set=a.187967227937716.47329.184749301592842&type=1&ref=nf [11:45] <Trykz> find that element, track down the original source, and you eventually arrive at the truth as a whole [11:45] <muppscott> I am writing my profile too. any suggestions [11:45] <invientjt> that one is from Colonel_cato [11:45] <hetonog> agreed reading between the lines of the media is something you have to learn though Trykz [11:45] <smokeyjo> On my fB I borrowed the photo of the sign Wall Street is our street. Love that one. [11:45] <hetonog> and usually by disengaging for a while [11:45] <Peace> funny, some of my fb friends recently added from this cause, have the same nov3 or nov birthdays like me! lol [11:45] <smokeyjo> Made it my profile photo. [11:45] <hetonog> which most can't do [11:45] <Trykz> right.... and those incapable of learning, are incapable of forming their own opinion [11:46] == TheCatch [ded2e6d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [11:46] <macrocosm> proto-fascists ... exactly what they are! [11:46] == jsmith_ [474651f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:46] <Trykz> or "valid opinion" I should have said [11:46] <hetonog> i wouldn't say that Trykz - many times it's too much to change mental course [11:46] <cgrapski> I took some stills from the video of the unnecessary macing of those barracaded in they are pretty damning when you look carefully: Take a look at the stills in this album: set=a.10150307410113655.342627.584843654&l=908cf5dae5&type=1 [11:46] <smokeyjo> This cat speaking, Chris is deluxe. [11:47] <muppscott> the granny photo, it's good, ok its a winner [11:47] <Vampire1812> yeah great interview [11:47] <macrocosm> rooted out? [11:47] <Trykz> its not hard, if you're taught the required skills from the beginning [11:47] == xwallstreet [4a659f06@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:47] == djklinik [18e9dd9c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:47] <hetonog> write a howto then Trykz :) [11:47] <crazymick> Trykz - critical thinking is being rooted out of the schools. [11:47] <crazymick> not taught at all [11:47] <Trykz> exactly [11:47] <smokeyjo> The ticker is flying high this morning on the live stream. The rebellion will be streamed live. [11:48] <djklinik> any of those transports coming from down south? got a few guys ready to go, will walk if we have to

[11:48] <Trykz> non-critical thinkers are what got us into this situation [11:48] <smokeyjo> True that crazymick. I'm a teacher...very sad [11:48] <Trykz> and ONLY critical thinkers will get us out [11:48] <jsmith_> I'm in South Carolina and I am watching [11:48] <smokeyjo> Wooblies!!!!! [11:49] <Vampire1812> Wait is Chris a Wooblie? [11:49] <crazymick> Smokeyjo: appreciative of all you do! My sister is a special eds teacher [11:49] <crazymick> incredible work [11:49] <jsmith_> just heard about it yesterday [11:49] <invientjt> I dont think we should have police brutality as part of the narrative, it should be posted and talked about, but we should focus on the ga meetings and showing direct democracy in action... [11:49] <Peace> djklinik do you know about the facebook carpool page, has every state on it? [11:49] <Trykz> separate the bullshit from the facts, identify the source of the problem, attack that source to affect change [11:49] <djklinik> we will be coming through sc in a week or so, jsmith [11:49] == tarsier [44e6fc11@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [11:49] == tinlet [627c089f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:49] <smokeyjo> Yes peace it is so cool how this rebellion is evolving. Thanks Crazy. [11:49] <djklinik> i didn't peace, im gonna check that out [11:50] <crazymick> agreed Trykz incredibly disturbing how easy it was to do as well [11:50] <Peace> ok cool [11:50] <jsmith_> where can I find a list of marches [11:50] <Trykz> why do you think most GOP'ers talk loud and fast?... its a tactic that overwhelms the competition of non-critical thinkers [11:50] <smokeyjo> good question smith [11:51] <Trykz> and they have it down to a science [11:51] <crazymick> That, and emotive sound bites. It's easy to grab on to those [11:51] <xwallstreet> ahh, so i guess you can't be a republican and be part of this [11:51] == Menace13 [] has left #occupywallst [] [11:51] <Trykz> right [11:51] <hetonog> Trykz: there's >2 Rep candidates that talk slow atm [11:51] <invientjt> just relaying a comment on the nakedcapitalism blog website.... “ Twitter blocked #OccupyWallStreet from being featured as a top trending topic on their homepage. …blatant political censorship” [11:51] <smokeyjo> I was a fool and bought into retirement funds, lost it all...thanks wall street. Give me my money back. [11:51] <Trykz> yes... and they're pariahs in their own party [11:51] <crazymick> yes they do - Evil geniuses (rove) are very very good at being subtly 'explosive' [11:52] <Peace> smokeyjo it's tragic [11:52] <macrocosm> yes ... buy local .. grow local! [11:52] <justmyop> what is the fb carpool link? [11:52] <cgrapski> Is there anyone here involved in legal strategizing? [11:52] == tinlet [627c089f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [11:52] <Peace> justmyop i'm looking for it for you [11:52] <smokeyjo> Can't speak for the masses but if you think that corporate greed and materialism has destroyed our country, please join. [11:53] <Vampire1812> cgrapski no

[11:53] <hetonog> true Trykz they're treated as lepers [11:53] <Vampire1812> cgrapski there might be in the other IRC channel [11:53] <crazymick> look at that AP report about Pres. Obama talking to the Black Caucus: the wording is really subtle but those that are on the lookout for it can see it. [11:53] <cgrapski> Where can I find people looking into that - which channel [11:53] <muppscott> I have another outlet. I will copy and paste this conversation into a PDF document and post it ot the site. I will call it... I am not sure yet. It is a publishing web site [11:54] <smokeyjo> Here is the link for FB carpool [11:54] <justmyop> ta! [11:54] == Grayly [62a3eefb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [11:54] == Occupy_Denver [43be2710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [11:54] <Peace> cool smokeyjo thanks lol [11:54] <macrocosm> this is a great interview with chris hedges [11:54] <Peace>!/OccupyWallSt [11:54] <Peace> it's on their left side bar too [11:55] <smokeyjo> Where is President Obama? Come on brother, speak to the people. [11:55] <smokeyjo> excellent [11:55] == Peace [aca22180@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [11:55] <macrocosm> more interviews and round tables would be great on here... and maybe a youtube channel with the various clips would be a good idea [11:55] <Trykz> the system we have is fine.... its the lack of critical thinking (keeping facts and bullshit separate) that is the problem [11:55] <sense1> Chris Hedges is Marvellous [11:55] <hetonog> someone needs to invent the bullshit detector [11:56] <xwallstreet> I think a lot of what you guys think is delusional. You criticize the GOP for not being open to new ideas and such, but you yourselves blast anyone and everyone who has views that are different than your own. I’ve read so much stuff on this website which points to conspiracy theories. I mean, come on people, if anyone is as well organized as you state you wouldn’t even be allowed to have this website up. Good luck wi [11:56] <crazymick> yes it is - if this can be clipped out and downloaded somewhere it would be great [11:56] <Trykz> its built into your psyche hetonog [11:56] == Jules82091 [6b032f98@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [11:56] <Vampire1812> oh wow [11:56] <Trykz> you either have it, or you don't [11:56] <Vampire1812> the FB page is over 14200 now [11:56] <Vampire1812> I went to bed it was at 12000 [11:56] <hetonog> xwallstreet: there are plenty of RP supporters in the crowd, i'm sure [11:56] <Vampire1812> We are growing keep sharing and talking [11:57] == TheCatch [ded2e6d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:57] == xwallstreet [4a659f06@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [11:57] == Occupy_Denver [43be2710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:57] <sense1> Chris Hedges is a great speaker and that is encouraging for us in the UK... our media portrays you all as Tea Party types

[11:58] <macrocosm> xwallstreet ... the republican party is a lost cause lol [11:58] <smokeyjo> it's easy to criticize? What is your solution to our world problems? [11:58] <Vampire1812> all of us ? [11:58] <Vampire1812> LOL [11:58] <crazymick> sense1: the Tea Party is a very very small # of people [11:58] <muppscott> I will be tweeting some of the conversations from this chat and I will be including your handles in the tweet, Does onyone mind? [11:58] <crazymick> and is supported by corporate interests [11:58] <Vampire1812> I dont [11:58] <smokeyjo> go for it crazy [11:58] <macrocosm> na I dont mind [11:58] == Covey [4495e92a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:58] == WhatsThepoint [4a489290@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:59] <sense1> I know but the only voice on our media is that of the US Government and the American Right.. [11:59] <Covey> exit [11:59] <invientjt> xwallstreet just ignore the political banter, the movement is bringing attention to political and economic corruption.. we have not formulated our demands and that is where our ideas will have to converge through the process of the GA (i.e. direct democracy) [11:59] == Covey [4495e92a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [11:59] <crazymick> smokeyjo: ? sorry i missed what you said [11:59] <hetonog> xwallstreet is gone invientjt - drive by wallpaste [11:59] <invientjt> err, I guess he just came in to give us shit and left [11:59] == bajin [626d89ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [11:59] <Vampire1812> Buddha ops me [11:59] <smokeyjo> sure you can post what I type. [11:59] <hetonog> yep [11:59] <sense1> And the Tea Party are portrayed as being a big force [11:59] <Occupy_Denver> the 2 party system as we know it is a lost cause. all about maintaining an illusion of choice. both parties take all the money they can get from big corps [12:00] <sense1> Which is scary for us and actually encourages similar idiocy here [12:00] <Vampire1812> I think political parties as we know them to be are a lost cause [12:00] <muppscott> ok, in 21 minuste, #occupywallstreet has 313 tweets, #occupywallst has 68 still not trending in the US [12:00] <Trykz> ugh.... [12:00] <macrocosm> xwallstreet ... the political banter is part of the illusion ... both parties have long since been spoiled ... spent... and will ultimately be remanded to history books as a tale of woe and how things can go wrong. [12:00] <invientjt> I think the original tea party was a big force... the fiscal conservatives, and they are or will stand with us if they are true to their cause. [12:00] <Trykz> here we go... [12:00] <muppscott> correction: in 21 minutes [12:00] == WhatsThepoint [4a489290@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [12:01] <muppscott> <invientjt> ima tweet that [12:01] == nassau [4096ef9c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [12:01] <hetonog> macrocosm: xwallstreet was a drive by [12:01] <smokeyjo> "Conditioning..." excellent [12:01] <invientjt> muppscott sweet

[12:01] <djklinik> not at all, I may not have much to say, but i am willing to walk 15 or so days to get there and show my support. daily updates on my twitter at djklinik [12:01] <sense1> But the media in the UK almost never show the american left or even center [12:01] <smokeyjo> not the conditioning the thought [12:01] == djklinik [18e9dd9c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [12:01] == Chitty1 [~Suyash@] has joined #occupywallst [12:02] <macrocosm> the media in the uk is just like our media here ... mostly bs [12:02] <sense1> Correct [12:02] <Vampire1812> duchesne are you there? [12:02] <smokeyjo> The hippies were right [12:02] == thiswontgounnoti [6c55f1d1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [12:03] == Chitty1 [~Suyash@] has left #occupywallst [] [12:03] <macrocosm> unions are great ... there is also employee owned and B-Corps [12:03] == Macheath [4bba4076@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [12:03] == bret [18bba26d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [12:03] == Chitty [~Suyash@] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] [12:03] <hetonog> macrocosm: i love emp-owned businesses ^^ [12:04] == Macheath [4bba4076@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Client Quit] [12:04] == jsmith_ [474651f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [12:04] <macrocosm> hetonog ... have you ever seen the B Corp designation program? Our company is joining ... its really cool [12:04] <sense1> Chris Hedges is such a good speaker for the cause.... very measured... evrything in perspective [12:04] <smokeyjo> yes compelling sense1 [12:04] <macrocosm> Yes Chris is fantastic [12:05] <muppscott> <macrocosm> ima tweet that [12:05] <Vampire1812> I wish this interview was going to go longer [12:05] <sense1> me too [12:05] <Vampire1812> I am picking up alot of what he is putting down [12:05] <smokeyjo> me too vampire. education is the key to this rebellion [12:05] <hetonog> macrocosm: i'll llook it up [12:06] <macrocosm> its a great idea and is a way to make corporations a power of good [12:06] <muppscott> <smokeyjo> ima tweet that [12:06] <Vampire1812> smokeyjo something we are lacking in the united states EDUCATION [12:06] <Trykz> that is what critical thinking sounds like [12:06] <@Buddha__> 12 mins 59 seconds of HQ Video from the Troy Davis / Occupy Wall Street protests [12:06] == Nijaxor [] has joined #occupywallst [12:06] <sense1> He was right when asked about martial law he said 'They wont call it martial law' and thats what its about [12:06] == Nijaxor [] has quit [Client Quit] [12:07] <muppscott> <@Buddha__> ima tweet that [12:07] <Vampire1812> Buddha__: I can op if you guys wanna break like lastnight just let me know :) [12:07] <macrocosm> lol [12:07] <invientjt> btw, if we want a public face... my favorit one is the video with the firs responder

who was a construction worker and can barely get by paying for all the meds he needs in his 30's [12:07] <smokeyjo> Thanks. people need to know how to speak to others in a constructive, intellectual manner about this rebellion. Not come off sounding like certain other groups i could name. :-) [12:07] <Occupy_Denver> unfortunately the college education system is quite broken. educations costing far too much that burden the students with a lifetime of debt for a job that never pays the cost of the education. keeping them from ever qualifying for a home. [12:08] == mode/#occupywallst [+o Vampire1812] by Buddha__ [12:08] <@Vampire1812> ty [12:08] <@Buddha__> im just digging for HQ video [12:08] <muppscott> <invientjt> ima tweet that [12:08] <@Vampire1812> invientjt that is a very very very touching video [12:08] <smokeyjo> Last week I kept the rebellion live stream on my computer for students to see. [12:08] <@Vampire1812> smokeyjo you are an educator? [12:08] <macrocosm> you can see the mountans that are gone from space in WV [12:08] <smokeyjo> yes [12:08] <@Vampire1812> smokeyjo thank you for being there for us :) [12:09] <smokeyjo> In Iowa--U.S. none the less. [12:09] <@Vampire1812> There are no good educators left [12:09] <@Vampire1812> well few :) [12:09] <muppscott> <smokeyjo> iima tweet that [12:09] <smokeyjo> Still talking to people who have no clue what is happening in NY [12:09] <Occupy_Denver> there are good teachers. not nearly enough. [12:09] <crazymick> Smokeyjo: streaming for the students!! that's awesome [12:09] <thiswontgounnoti> does anyone know what the current number of protestors is estimated at in NYC? Can't find anything reliable on that [12:10] <hetonog> macrocosm: doesn't seem to have a clear definition or example of the b-corp structure. links? [12:10] <smokeyjo> Thanks. I've been in with this since day one, just not there in NY [12:10] <@Vampire1812> More teachers should be showing this to their classrooms [12:10] <smokeyjo> I absolutely love this movement. [12:10] <@Buddha__> =) [12:10] <crazymick> this is the start, for certain. [12:10] <smokeyjo> It has restored my faith in mankind. [12:10] <@Buddha__> watch this video and tell me we had shitty turn out ;-) [12:10] <@Buddha__> lol [12:10] == UMDdiamondback [60e7c182@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] [12:10] <macrocosm> hetonog ... just read through .. its all there [12:11] <smokeyjo> Way to go Chris that was awesome. Sure hope someone is recording all this. [12:11] <TheCatch> teacher here, wussup? [12:11] <smokeyjo> Hi catch [12:11] <Occupy_Denver> morning thecatch [12:11] == Robin_ [57d22138@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [12:11] <@Vampire1812> the live stream is getting VERY good [12:11] <@Vampire1812> They are learning [12:11] == michael [4452bd06@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has joined #occupywallst [12:11] <macrocosm> hetonog .... each company creates its own setup but there are guidelines and an impact assessment etc .... the changes go into the company bylaws [12:11] <Robin_> Robin WeAreChange Holland here. Hey all.

[12:12] <@Vampire1812> Welcome Robin :) [12:12] <TheCatch> hey smokey [12:12] == michael has changed nick to Guest818 [12:12] <smokeyjo> Hi Robin [12:12] == thiswontgounnoti [6c55f1d1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [12:12] <Robin_> thanks [12:12] <muppscott> 30 minutes, 473 tweets on #occupywallstreet, 112 tweets on #occupywallst, ok ima copy the transcript and publish it. [12:12] <smokeyjo> What are you hearing in Holland Robin?