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AMD Athlon X2 7850 vs.

Intel Pentium E5300: Choosing the Best $70 CPU by Anand Lal Shimpi on 4/28/2009 11:00:00 AM Posted in CPUs Buy the Intel E5300 Pentium Dual Core box $82.95

AMD celebrates its 40 year anniversary next month, and the Athlon brand turns ten shortly thereafter. What better way to celebrate than by releasing a rebadged 65nm Phenom processor with two cores disabled at $69? Er, or, I guess they could’ve sent a cake. It’s called the Athlon X2 7850 and it actually has very little in common with the old Athlon 64 X2s. As I mentioned, these are rebadged 65nm Phenom processors with two cores disabled. The table below should give you a good comparison between the die size and transistor count of the original Phenom compared to the new Athlon X2: Processor AMD Phenom X4 9950 AMD Athlon X2 7850 Manufacturing Process Die Size Transistor Count 65nm 65nm 285 mm2 285 mm2 450M 450M

There’s no surprise that the specs are identical, because the processors are identical. AMD simply disables two of the Phenom’s four cores in production before shipping the parts. In its heyday the original Phenom never broke 2.6GHz, but with a fully mature 65nm process and only two functional cores AMD is able to clock these parts higher. The first dual-core Phenom derivative was the Athlon X2 7750 and it ran at 2.7GHz. In AMD’s tradition of introducing far too many CPUs, today AMD expands the list with a 2.8GHz Athlon X2 7850.

Once again this is the original Phenom processor. .it also means that the architecture doesn’t make quite as much sense. none of the advancements found in the Phenom II are included .

shared L3 cache. AMD and Intel came to the conclusion that the ideal quad-core architecture had private L2 caches (one per core) with a large. hence the use of a large shared L3 cache alongside private L2 caches. The Athlon X2 7850 takes the cache hierarchy of the ideal quad-core design and uses it on a dual-core processor. With only two cores.It's a Socket-AM2+ Processor The original Phenom architecture was designed to be used for quad-core processor designs. fast. . L2 shared by both cores. many of the benefits of this architecture are lost. Intel discovered that the ideal dual-core architecture featured two levels of cache with a large.

only cache starved Core 2 processors. 64KB L1 instruction cache and a 512KB L2 cache per core. but it’s unfortunately very high latency by comparison. but with only two cores enabled. . Intel found that on its Nehalem processor each core needed a minimum of 2MB of L3 cache for optimal performance. or in the case of a dual-core derivative 1MB of L3 cache. not ideal. With Phenom II AMD settled on 1. It’s a Difference of Cache The Athlon X2 7850 is based on the original 65nm Phenom core. And things should be easier for AMD at the $69 price point . The original Phenom gave each core 512KB of L3.To make matters worse. Priced at $74 we have Intel’s Pentium E5300.there’s no Nehalem to worry about down here. There’s also this catch-all 2MB L3 cache. That means we’ve got a 64KB L1 data cache. it does so with an incredibly small L3. But it only costs $69. Again.5MB L3 per core.

so final accesses to memory are a lot slower on Intel’s hardware. Each core has a 32KB L1 data cache and a 32KB L1 instruction cache. smaller than the Athlon X2.The Pentium E5300 The Pentium E5300 is a trimmed down version of Intel’s 45nm Wolfdale core. The L2 cache is shared between the cores and is 2MB in size. Intel does not have an L3 cache but it also doesn’t have an on-die memory controller. It takes just as long to access data from Intel’s 2MB shared L2 as it does to get data from AMD’s 512KB L2. .

It's all LGA-775 AMD has more cache but it’s slower than Intel’s. . once you get out to main memory the Athlon X2 can get to data quicker but the E5300 has the benefit of more advanced prefetchers.

The execution advantage should go to Intel. it looks like crowning a winner at $70 will take a little more work. the Athlon X2 could pull ahead in applications that don’t fit nicely within the E5300’s L2 cache. However with an on-die memory controller. Intel doesn’t need to run at the same clock speeds to outperform AMD.The E5300 is a 45nm chip meaning it can be cooled by Intel's low profile boxed heatsink Intel’s architecture also has a wider 4-issue front end compared to the Athlon X2. b . With a higher IPC. While the Phenom II has been enjoying clear victories over Intel’s equivalently priced processors in the higher end space.

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