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I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately, only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow. Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:04:28 PM

We should only discuss future locations in person. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:01 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> wrote: We are Occupy Wall Street, moving to Washington Square Park will make de-politicise this occupation its symbolic and direct action! We are gaining momentum because it is in Wall Street. If we do take this anywhere else in NYC, it should be politically strategic change, like in front of the United Nations. I am sorry i will stand with the 99% wherever we decide to go, but we should think strategically, even if we are larger in numbers, by moving further from the heart of the problem and wall street, We will lose political clout. We need a place that send a resounding message to the rest of the world. United Nations is a good place to occupy to get that message across. How? not sure, but there is a lot of space in front of the UN, not as lovely as washington square but politically more potent. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: > Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from > what I see the occupation there is stable. Though, I am sure that > they are looking for any excuse to clear the park. One such excuse > could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding. > These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD. > > In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park, > preferably a larger one. We should absolutely continue to use Liberty > Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will > not house the entire 99%. I propose that we explore how we might > assume control of Washington Square Park. As public land, there is no > excuse for eviction that we are trespassing. A physically large > presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because > they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person > who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a > bicycle to something. There are arches which we can triumphantly > march through and return through. The open aerial coverage presents > multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a > sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt. > > This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration. I > suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting. People > will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people. So, the > physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants > naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person > stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not. > > I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately, > only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have
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significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of grimwomyn september17@googlegroups.com Alli McCracken SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Re: Skype sesh with Occupy DC organizers Wed night? Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:14:25 PM

I am 80% sure I can be on the call..... I am grimwomyn on skype-On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Drew H <drew@nycga.net> wrote: > I'm going to forward this to the sept17 list. I think someone will be able > to pick this up and run with it. > Though, wednesday is a really big day and it might be fairly hecktic! > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Alli McCracken <alli@codepink.org> wrote: >> >> Hi OccupyWallStreet team! >> I spoke with someone while I was there this weekend about organizing a >> Skype session between some of the people at Liberty Plaza and the organizers >> of the October 6th Freedom Plaza takeover in Washington DC. We are having a >> kickoff event on October 5th from 6-8pm and will be also skyping with >> activists in Egypt. It is my understanding this is something you guys might >> be interested in, and I want to confirm. It will be a GREAT way to get >> people in DC pumped for our occupation - everyone is so inspired by Occupy >> Wall Street. >> Let me know. >> Thanks! >> Alli >> CODEPINK >> > >

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of nikky schiller globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] 15 oct campeing videos Monday, October 03, 2011 10:34:19 AM

Ey everyone i would appreciate you inform me if you have or you will make any promotion video for the 15oct for me to upload it to the globalrevolution channel here you go an examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y3X2VFruLM&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU7ryQAUDg&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyuUlCyv_-A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyziG5bUuBE&feature=related all the best Nikky

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of Prudence Katze globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Everything okay at Liberty plaza? Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:37:29 AM

Amazing job on live stream today! You guys got like 20,000 people watching (or more!) Going to try to heal up soon to join... in solidarity, Prudence

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of DMS globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Photos of yesterdays arrests Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:05:05 AM

http://davidscameracraft.blogspot.com/2011/10/700-arrested-during-occupy-wallstreet.html

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of Brennan Cavanaugh Core List; actionchurch@lists.revbilly.com; globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] pix up from yesterday"s Brooklyn Bridge action Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:45:15 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/occupywallstreet/sets/72157627801013520/

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of Katie Davison globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com; globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] press conference at 1p - livestream? Monday, October 03, 2011 12:42:41 PM

Hey All Amy Goodman is going to be doing a press conference at 1p on the corner of Liberty and Broadway about the treatment of press by the police. She just settled a law suit with the NYPD from the RNC. Livestream? I think it would be great to ask her some questions about how the environment has changed with the rise of social media and how that has affected the treatment of independent journalist. I'll be in in like half an hour. Katie

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of nikky schiller globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Richard Wolfe Economist to speak at Open Forum tomorrow Tuesday at 6pm Monday, October 03, 2011 11:31:22 PM

Hi Guys Richard Wolfe is speaking at 6pm tomorrow- it would be great if we could broadcast this on the live stream-- if not can we record to post later? I will come by the media station to remind you at around 5:30. Thanks Maria 347 276 7745 Hi, this is Nikky, i would appreciate you confirm if anyone will be able to cover tomorrow forum thanks Nikky

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of Katie Davison globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com; globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] today"s media minutes Wednesday, October 05, 2011 1:04:12 AM Media Meeting 10.4.11.docx

Hey everyone Working to add everyone to a comprehensive media team list. Attached are the minutes for today's media meeting. Sorry for the delay. Meeting for NY media team tomorrow at noon at Charlotte's Place. x Katie

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From: To: Subject: Date: september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17; NYC ISO; no-budget-cuts-ny-discussion SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] 74% of Daily News readers say OccupyWallSt is "a great cause" Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:59:08 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/01/2011-10-01_dozens_arrested_at_occupy_wall_street_protest_brooklyn_bridge_shut_down_.html?r=topnews http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do? pollCmsUniqueId=20111001_occupying_wall_street&pollTitle=Occupying+Wall+Street&pollQuestion=Do+you+agree+with+the+protesters%3F&voteExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes%2C+it%27s+a+great+cause.%3BNo%2C+they+don%27t+know+what+they%27re+fighting+for.%3BI%27m+not+sure.&20111001_occupying_wall_street=1&vote=vote

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Yotam Marom september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] A piece about the occupation Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:20:44 PM

Hi friends. I wrote a piece about the occupation. Figured I'd put it up here in case people find it useful in some way. http://www.zcommunications.org/a-brief-analysis-from-a-wall-street-occupier-byyotam-marom See you down there. Yotam

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] A submission for GA consideration. Sunday, October 02, 2011 5:33:42 PM

Please print copies of the contents of the following submission at Pastebin and pass them out to people in Liberty Park for me. http://pastebin.com/mrJULaAP

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Conor Toms Reed september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:35:39 PM

Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest). https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 thanks! -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Direct Action committee is MIA?!? Monday, October 03, 2011 1:13:56 PM

There hasn't been any response to repeated questions on the listserv about the next Direct Action committee meeting, and I can't find any info on it on the nycga or occupywallst websites either. We have two pressing decisions that need to be made: will we expand to another location, and what our plans are on Wednesday when the march reaches OWS. If there's no word from Direct Action soon, I think we should call a meeting of the committee tomorrow night, because this stuff needs to be discussed in person asap. Doug

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Alexandre Machado De Sant"Anna Carvalho september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the Horizon Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:37:03 PM

Dear all; Talking to other people at Liberty Square, there is strong reason to believe that a good picture of what this occupation is all about has been conceptualized. This is something that maybe everyone already recognized, intuitively or not. We are marching not necessarily for demands, but for value systems. We are marching for values. Values such as solidarity, emancipation, social justice, humanization, human rights, etc. In these values, that's where goals and demands fit, but above all - THIS IS WHY WE MARCH! I'd like to share this vision of the movement with the broader collective. In the process, will attempt to (1) ditch the "one line demand meme", hopefully for good; (2) talk about what we are organically building - a Direct Participatory Democratic Network and (3) subvert-appropriate the "one line demand" meme to a "one line purpose" meme. Bear strong with me. It is a fun ride. For all those who have been following the developments in Liberty Square, we can observe that the General Assembly became a convergence point for dissent social movements. Here we have feminists, queer groups, environmental groups, anti-war groups, permaculture/foodies, anti-racism, anti-police brutality, pro-immigrants, human right activists, disabled body people, labor unions, animal rights and even animals themselves (dogs and cats so far, :-). Not to mention a broad set of political orientations, such as marxists, anarchists, liberals, etc etc. All these individuals, organizations, and social movements recognized the legitimacy of the square to voice out their suppressed views to the public in hope of building empathy for change; they are all saying enough to representative democracy and are embracing direct participatory democracy as a better way to share grievances, build solidarity, and solve problems. Doing politics and life with people and not for people or despite people, which is the status quo of our politik so far. This is why we cannot, under any circumstances, narrow our increasingly broadbased movement (and thus POWER) to a one line demand. It is time to open possibilities, not close them. How can we leverage the power rallying at the General Assemblies? How can we make sure that they sew together the strenght of scattered social movements into an unstoppable force? Through the people's Direct Participatory Democratic Network we are building. Let's Imagine, as Lennon would put it. General Assemblies at the community level, at the city level, at state and national level, and finally at the global level, working with each other, in conversation with each other, building solidarity together and coordinating actions. All through physical means (offline) and virtual
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(online) means, maybe both. The image of this process is a cluster of nonhierarchical, layer-based, General Assemblies, federated and collaborating in the shape of concentric circles.

GA's would have the legitimacy to solve issues pertaining to their jurisdiction. So for instance, local level problems such as public school budget cuts would be resolved at OccupyNYC cluster of General Assemblies. National issues such as renewable energy-based economy discussed and solved by outer rim of General Assemblies: OccupyOregon, OccupyNorthDakota, OccupyMassachusetts, etc. Global issues such as Climate Change or Neoliberal Capitalism discussed and fought at the last outer layer (OccupyPlanet), in coordination with OccupySpain, OccupyGreece, OccupyBrazil, etc. Maybe we will soon realize that these old nation-state borders aren't even necessary anymore. And that is when we really make history. It is about a re-definition of borders, my dear friends, drawn by the people with the people. Again, we are creating a non-hierarchical, layered Direct Participatory Democratic Network. A framework that even though layered, is still horizontal, much like ArcGIS (cartography software) maps. These conversations would need to happen in a transparent, collaborative, secure environment through a open-source platform where voices on the squares are amplified. Virtual participants must have equal voice - some constituents are in hospital beds for example. However, only the Direct Participatory Democratic Network won't make power bend. We need to invite power to change with the will of the people or clog the machine to make it bend, with people power, at precise tactical leverage points. For instance, and this is just an analogy to help clarify the point, (disclaimer for the cops out there hearing this), if we have solid internal intel from employees that blood diamonds are being invested and traded through Chase bank institutions at the Financial District, we build solidarity with social movements that oppose this absurdity and #OccupyChase to shut it down. If queer marriage is being blocked, we seek solidarity with social movements that are in favour and find tactical leverage points to turn the wheel towards legislation, policies, or whatever other demands those social movements have. The drafting of goals, demands or whetever should be primarily made by the social movements that are affected by the issue at hand. Who better to draft goals than the people directly affected? Who are we to draft demands for these social movements? We can though be in solidarity WITH them and not FOR them... until power yields. So again, we leverage in solidarity power converging at General Assemblies and march. Whoever is in empathy with a particular cause, goal or demand(s) participates in the smart tactical actions developed to push for them. To build this direct participatory democratic network, absolute free speech is crucial, where all voices, including right wing voices, are welcome. Will this mean co-option? Not necessarily. How? This movement is not apolitical. It is not a neutral movement, as Brecht would
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agree, there is nothing apolitical in human affairs. This movement was clearly born with a leftist revolutionary call. Rather than a single demand, we have a "one line purpose", under which all these dissent groups including pro-environment and animal rights groups) rally around: we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. Alas, a "one line purpose". Domestic violence or neoliberal capitalism's biases and exclusions; human destruction of the biosphere; all forms of personal or impersonal oppression perpetrated by individuals, groups, corporations, banks, corrupted structures. we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. This is it seems what we've been doing. The big picture. Where is radicalism, revolution? It is on direct, autonomous, inclusive democracy where voices are amplified and heard across miles, influencing memes and coordinating actions to emancipate the human race and the planet. A way to know we are successful? When power recognizes the legitimacy of the General Assembly constituency to speak for themselves and self-represent. THIS IS WHY WE MARCH. We march for values. Enough of Libert, Egalit, Fraternit. Rather, let's chant a new song: Humanization, Emancipation, Solidarity! Thoughts?

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of guindave@aol.com september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Expanding the movement. Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:12:50 PM

One the Great things about OWS is it has become a center for LEFT activity in NYC. In that sprit this Saturday we are having our own littie take over of BMW funded BMW GUGGENHEIM SPACE is located at First Park in the Lower East Side off the 2nd Ave F Train stop. We will march up from Liberity Squre at 530pm and be at the Space at 7. Our Demand is that BMW stop selling a product that will end humanity. Here is the event bellow http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=46302490#!/event.php?eid=274051842615950 Also my friend has started a facebook encouraging people to leave there banks http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=46302490#!/event.php?eid=274051842615950

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of jemcgloin@verizon.net september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Fwd: American Autumn? Monday, October 03, 2011 6:28:39 PM

Another Group joins the fray! From: "Move to Amend" Date: Oct 3, 2011 1:58:25 PM Subject: American Autumn? To: John McGloin <jemcgloin@verizon.net>

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The national campaign to Abolish Corporate Personhood and Defend Democracy. Sign the Petition: http://MoveToAmend.org/motion-to-amend ***

In Solidarity with Occupy Wall Street... Dear friend, Move to Amend heartily supports Occupy Wall Street, the best thing to happen since the Wisconsin protest wave began! It warms our hearts to see the occupation growing steadily, and sparking occupations and protests in cities across the nation. Weve known for quite a while that most Americans are with us in our fight against corporate personhood. The problem has been reaching them and getting them to act. The young people who started Occupy Wall Street have touched a nerve that has ignited others and we say, Way to go! Pundits have complained there are no formal demands. These savvy folks formed a general assembly to make decisions through consensus. In just two weeks, the

occupations general assembly released this draft declaration.

Who knows what October will bring, but it looks pretty good for our side! Occupy Wall Street is growing an and spreading, and this Thursday, and the long-planned October 2011 occupation of Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC begins. You can bet the corporate powers in league with broken government and the mainstream
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media will do everything in their power to quash the revolt. We cant let that happen. If you live anywhere near any of these protests and occupations, please get down there and spread the word about Move to Amend. Take our petitions and materials with you and connect our efforts. The democracy movement is in the streets. We need to bring that movement into the Constitution, too. 2011 started with the Arab Spring and the uprisings in Madison, WI, and other state capitals, and the revolt will continue through the Autumn in DC, NY, and other sites of occupation! Move to Amend will be there. In solidarity, Ben Manski, Lisa Graves, Laura Bonham, George Friday, David Cobb, and Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap Move to Amend Executive Team

Move to Amend P.O. Box 260217 Madison, WI 53726-0217 United States End Corporate Rule. Legalize Democracy. Move to Amend. We're on Facebook & Twitter! -To ensure that you continue receiving our emails, please add us to your address book or safe list. Click here to be taken off our list. Got this as a forward? Sign up to receive our future emails.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Gary Roland september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Guardian asks "Were you arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge?" Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:03:08 PM

They are trying to gather more information and are looking for more accounts. If you were on the bridge and would like to contribute visit the following link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/02/occupy-wall-streetbrooklyn-bridge-arrests?newsfeed=true and click on the email or twitter links. Solidarity in Struggle, ~GARY

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Vicente Rubio september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] How to cook a peaceful revolution: Guide/Roll-Up English Monday, October 03, 2011 9:00:28 AM Roll-Up_eng1.0..pdf

This is a document elaborated by the SOL camp. It explains the structure of the working groups, commissions, general assembly, and all other processes going on there. I put here just in case it is useful for discussion on possible future structures and organization for the movement, both at the square and outside the square. Best, Vicente.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of guindave@aol.com september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Love the Declaration Monday, October 03, 2011 12:53:29 AM

I am very critical guy, always talking about how I don't like certain things people on my side (the left) do and I wanted to say when i read the Declartion I was moved by how much I agreed with it and thought it was the perfect statement Love ya;ll ! Dave

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Micah White september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Multilingual Media Contacts Monday, October 03, 2011 1:36:23 PM

Hi, I need the names of anyone willing to speak to the media about #ows who speaks a language other than English. Right now, I especially need someone who speaks English. But, all other languages are also necessary. Please email me your name, language spoken, and cell phone number. Thanks, Micah

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Babak K september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Naomi Klein to speak Thursday 6pm OPEN FORUM southeast corner of Liberty Plaza! Monday, October 03, 2011 7:47:36 AM

The empowerment and education committee organizes the 6pm Open Forum inviting academics and community activists to speak on issues relevant to OWS. Naomi Klein will be speaking at 6pm on Thursday!!! This is confirmed. Thanks!

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Vicente Rubio september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] NYTimes change of story Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:48:48 AM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-forBrooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderec

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Micah White september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] persons running wearethe99percent.tumblr.com Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:26:19 PM

Can the persons running http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/ please email me offlist. We are getting contacted by journalists who want to speak with you. (By the way, I think you should win a webby - it is a wonderful site!) Thanks, Micah

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Conor Toms Reed justine@occupywallst.org; september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Please add labor outreach working group mtg to tmrw"s OWS site calendar Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:35:56 PM

Hello, The OWS labor outreach working group is meeting tomorrow at 6pm under the big red sculpture. Will someone with admin capacities please add this to the OWS and NYCGA sites? Also, when can we get an updated OWS home page that briefly shows yesterday's arrest figures and key articles, but also importantly highlights this megamarch on Wednesday? No disrespect, but we need to tighten our online updates so more folks can get activated! -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Winter Siroco september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Police leads the march into the street Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:51:29 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fockzr7rXys On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Vicente Rubio <vrubiopu@gmail.com> wrote: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changesits-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderec

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of grimwomyn september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Promotion of the Kickstarter Campaign for Occupy Wall Street Media Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:50:43 PM

Hey all, So we have 4 days left on the kickstarter campaign and a solid plan about the printed media to be produced, so PLEASE promote the campaign everywhere you can! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/610964639/occupy-wall-street-media Thanks! grim

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of frogman@networkpimps.com september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Propaganda Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:48:37 PM

Here is another FOX News story that can have a negative impact. Who recruited Anonymous' involvement anyway? http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/04/hacker-group-anonymous-threatens-to-attack-stockexchange/

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of shaista husain september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Proposal for working GROUP on Economics/Global Democracy or "Global Economic Democracy" Monday, October 03, 2011 4:54:36 PM

Dear OccupyWallStreet, There are many of us who share Cesars concerns he has voiced about the immigrant issue. THere are several of us who have been feeling frustrated with the process and marginalized. Can you please ask the GA for approval to form this group tonight. We, Immigrants need to have a space for discussion and inclusion to help mobilize, we would like to form this group and bring our discussion to the General Assembly. We are enthusiastic about the developments so far, we are eager to form this group and participate. We stand in solidarity! Shaista Husain

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Drew Hornbein internet_working_group@googlegroups.com september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: [NYCGA Internet] #OperationLiberty Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:34:56 AM

Ken, this is amazing! I'm going to phone you right now and forward your post to a few other list servs. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:11 AM, <ken@futurefarming.org> wrote: FutureFarming.Org is launching an all out effort to be the movement supporting the movement. At www.FutureFarming.Org/OperationLiberty/ there is a new forum to link supplies and needs, carpools, and allow people to express themselves. This will be followed by as many supply drops as we can arrange, including trying to charter a few buses from upstate to the City. So please Tweet this address, use it to post needs and help people get rides and supplies to Liberty Square. I know there are other forums, but I am trying to consolidate, I have a team here that can moderate and help link carpools, supply need and donations, and arrange some bus charters 24/7. I have people in ME, IN, NJ and of course upstate NY. we want to get this information out ASAP so we can bear some of the load from here for our brothers and sisters and start trying to march in the calvary while you all hold down the fort. Our non-profits business line is 315-982-4430, text or call or email if anyone needs more information, or has forum suggestions. Peace and (hopefully!) Warmth Ken Keplinger Director - www.FutureFarming.Org

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Chris _ september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Amalgamated Transit Union Support LONG TERM RESOURCE Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:53:03 AM

The things food will always need include water, flatware (plates, cups, forks, spoons, etc.) and hot, prepared food that can just be grabbed or handed off. However, we have been encountering struggles with storage as of late, as it's very difficult to keep everything organized in such a small space, so if anyone has a storage facility in the city where we could be able to keep things, that would be wonderful. On Oct 5, 12:21 am, keegan <alas...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lawrence Hanley, International President of the Amalgamated Transit > Union, contacted me about supporting us. They have released a public > statement of support for OWS and are mobilizing people for tomorrow. > He wanted to know if we have any specific needs for tomorrow's action > that he may be able to help with, and he wants me to keep him abreast > of specific needs we have for other actions and supplies in general. > > Direct Action, is there anything you would like me to ask of him for > tomorrow? > > Comfort, Food, everyone else is there anything specific you would like > me to ask him for? He will be a great resource for supplies and > funding. > > Amalgamated Transit Union is by far the most radical union around, and > Lawrence sits on the executive council of the AFL, as well, so his > support could be very helpful at important moments. Just let me know > if you want to contact him. > > Cheers. > Keegan > Time's Up!

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:25:39 PM

It is too late to put this to GA attention, so I will tweet now on the one condition that we make an effort to pass a resolution that in the future we completely reject the entire idea of requiring a "permit" to exercise Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of what possible, conceivable use is a freedom of speech and assembly which we must ask for? Asking for permissions implies legitimacy of a "no" answer. The entire purpose of this freedom is to give us the ability to unilaterally assert ourselves when our representatives fail to represent us. The requirement of a permit is a direct nullification of what is an unbridgeable right. On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed <conortomasr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the > mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square > so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest). > > https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 > > thanks! > -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Lauren september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:06:07 PM

It also agrees that money is speech, that women are not a class for the purpose of class action lawsuits, etc

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:43:53 PM

For the benefit of others, I present the text of the 1st amendment. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Where does it say in there that a permit is required? Where does it say that I must ask the government's permission politely to disagree with it? Nowhere, and through civil disobedience we can put these "laws" where they belong, a sad note in the history books. We have a just right to assembly and speech. If the city wants to stand in the way of this, let them. The Constitution trumps city law, not the other way around. On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed <conortomasr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the > mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square > so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest). > > https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 > > thanks! > -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Richard S. september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the Horizon Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:19:29 PM

Although I am not an active participant or Liberty Plaza Park camper right now, I cannot resist answering some of the messages/ideas expressed on this e-mail list. If people feel I shouldn't be doing so, just let me know... Ale, I have two concerns when I read your description/message below. One is that in your idea about why we are marching (and I still can include myself in that "we" because I have been marching with many of you a lot of the time), you seem to have forgotten about the very crushing, real, concrete economic hardship that is being inflicted on so many of us, about the crisis of unemployment in a society in which employment is required - at least at some point - for survival (and is also used by many as a measure of one's worthiness to participate in society), and about the absurd inequality of our economic system. I thought inequality was one of the main reasons that we are marching. So, I am always baffled by your repeated insistence on dropping "egalite" from the "song" that you think we should chant. Secondly, I love the idea of general assemblies spreading throughout the world to practice and create direct participatory democracy. However, I hope that the concept of direct, participatory democracy being pursued does not have to include all the features of consensus process (or a particular kind of consensus process) that have been popular with activist groups for a while. (People who don't know say this is all new, but I know it isn't. When I first joined the GA, I was surprised at how many details and gimmicks in the process were identical to what I'd seen in Direct Action Network a dozen years ago.) My biggest fear in this area is with regard to the danger that consensus process has begun to be seen as a necessary ingredient in direct democracy (which it most certainly is not). I have heard that the GAs are really falling back on a form of majority voting pretty often anyway (is this true?), but I think that the emphasis on consensus, and the equation of many people (especially the newer activists) between consensus and "real democracy" would be a drag on the effectiveness and popularity of general assemblies in general. I am also concerned that the movement for democratic assemblies might be dragged down by the numerous gimmicks that are peculiar to this trend in process, but which I don't see as necessary - e.g., everything from "vibes watching" to certain identity-based concepts of the progressive stack to the twinkling of fingers (I don't mind "twinkling," I do it myself :) - but a lot of people don't see that as necessary at all). Because of time limits, I can't really comment adequately re. other thoughts that have occurred to me. However, I will add that I don't see all concerns related to all different "dissent social movements" (which is a broad enough category to be very changeable and debatable) as being "points" from which the social struggle and eventual revolution (I hope) to oppose and replace the present socialeconomic system can be waged with equal significance or effectiveness. (Hoping that sentence is not too convoluted, but again, my eloquence in this matter is limited by time, as I am a very slow writer.) And while I know this is a terrible heresy here and

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now, I do think that one "concern" and source of struggle that can unite the broadest range of people in a struggle against the root of our problems is class. I would say, "class" as a concept that can be debated, studied, updated beyond the usual stereotypical assumptions, but class nonetheless, based on people's economic role in the society. (Call me a dated old Marxist, if you like - though I was an anarchist activist first, well acquainted with these many supposedly "new" approaches a good number of years ago.) And, on a related point - or back to the first point - I also kind of thought we were marching to address issues of economic power and control that have been neglected by fashionable activist movements in our area for decades, which is one major reason we find ourselves in the present social disaster. Anyway, I hope this message has not been too cumbersome, and once again, if I am too detached from the group (at least in physical presence) to be offering such lengthy and somewhat dissenting opinions, you (all) should just tell me, and I will take that into major consideration. :) Richard On Oct 4, 3:36 pm, "Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho" <ac3...@nyu.edu> wrote: > Dear all; > > Talking to other people at Liberty Square, there is strong reason to > believe that a good picture of what this occupation is all about has been > conceptualized. This is something that maybe everyone already recognized, > intuitively or not. We are marching not necessarily for demands, but for > value systems. We are marching for values. Values such as solidarity, > emancipation, social justice, humanization, human rights, etc. > In these values, that's where goals and demands fit, but above all - *THIS > IS WHY WE MARCH!* > > I'd like to share this vision of the movement with the broader collective. > In the process, will attempt to > > (1) ditch the "one line demand meme", hopefully for good; > (2) talk about what we are organically building - a Direct Participatory > Democratic Network and > (3) subvert-appropriate the "one line demand" meme to a *"one line purpose" > meme.* Bear strong with me. It is a fun ride. > > For all those who have been following the developments in Liberty Square, we > can observe that the General Assembly became a convergence > point for dissent social movements. Here we have feminists, queer groups, > environmental groups, anti-war groups, permaculture/foodies, anti-racism, > anti-police brutality, pro-immigrants, human right activists, disabled body > people, labor unions, animal rights and even animals themselves (dogs and > cats so far, :-). Not to mention a broad set of political orientations, such > as marxists, anarchists, liberals, etc etc. > > All these individuals, organizations, and social movements recognized the > legitimacy of the square to voice out their suppressed views to the public > in hope of building empathy for change; they are all saying enough > to*representative democracy > * and are embracing *direct participatory democracy* as a better way to > share grievances, build solidarity, and solve problems. Doing politics and

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

life *with* people and not* for* people or despite people, which is the status quo of our politik so far. This is why we cannot, under any circumstances, narrow our increasingly broad-based movement (and thus POWER) to a one line demand. It is time to open possibilities, not close them. How can we leverage the power rallying at the General Assemblies? How can we make sure that they sew together the strenght of scattered social movements into an unstoppable force? Through the people's Direct Participatory Democratic Network we are building. *Let's Imagine, as Lennon would put it.* General Assemblies at the community level, at the city level, at state and national level, and finally at the global level, working with each other, in conversation with each other, building solidarity together and coordinating actions. All through physical means (offline) and virtual (online) means, maybe both. The image of this process is a cluster of non-hierarchical, layer-based, General Assemblies, federated and collaborating in the shape of concentric circles. GA's would have the legitimacy to solve issues pertaining to their jurisdiction. So for instance, local level problems such as *public school budget cuts* would be resolved at OccupyNYC cluster of General Assemblies. National issues such as *renewable energy-based economy*discussed and solved by outer rim of General Assemblies: OccupyOregon, OccupyNorthDakota, OccupyMassachusetts, etc. Global issues such as *Climate Change or Neoliberal Capitalism* discussed and fought at the last outer layer (OccupyPlanet), in coordination with OccupySpain, OccupyGreece, OccupyBrazil, etc. Maybe we will soon realize that these old nation-state borders aren't even necessary anymore. And that is when we really make history. It is about a re-definition of borders, my dear friends, drawn by the people *with* the people. Again, we are creating a non-hierarchical, layered *Direct Participatory Democratic Network.* A framework that even though layered, is still horizontal, much like ArcGIS (cartography software) maps. These conversations would need to happen in a transparent, collaborative, secure environment through a open-source platform where voices on the squares are amplified. Virtual participants must have equal voice - some constituents are in hospital beds for example. However, only the Direct Participatory Democratic Network won't make power bend. We need to invite power to change with the will of the people or clog the machine to make it bend, with people power, at precise tactical leverage points. For instance, and this is just an analogy to help clarify the point, (disclaimer for the cops out there hearing this), if we have solid internal intel from employees that blood diamonds are being invested and traded through Chase bank institutions at the Financial District, we build solidarity with social movements that oppose this absurdity and #OccupyChase to shut it down. If queer marriage is being blocked, we seek solidarity with social movements that are in favour and find tactical leverage points to turn the wheel towards legislation, policies, or whatever other demands those social movements have. The drafting of goals, demands or whetever should be primarily made by the social movements that are affected by the issue at hand. Who better to draft goals than the people directly affected? Who are we to draft demands for these social movements? We can though be in solidarity WITH them and not FOR

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

them... until power yields. So again, we leverage *in solidarity *power converging at General Assemblies and march. Whoever is in empathy with a particular cause, goal or demand(s) participates in the smart tactical actions developed to push for them. To build this direct participatory democratic network, absolute free speech is crucial, where all voices, including right wing voices, are welcome. Will this mean co-option? Not necessarily. How? This movement is not apolitical. It is not a neutral movement, as Brecht would agree, there is nothing apolitical in human affairs. This movement was clearly born with a leftist revolutionary call. Rather than a single demand, we have a "one line purpose", under which all these dissent groups including pro-environment and animal rights groups) rally around: *we are a human **struggle against oppression in all its forms.* Alas, a "one line purpose". Domestic violence or neoliberal capitalism's biases and exclusions; human destruction of the biosphere; all forms of personal or impersonal oppression perpetrated by individuals, groups, corporations, banks, corrupted structures. *we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms.* This is it seems what we've been doing. The big picture. Where is radicalism, revolution? It is on direct, autonomous, inclusive democracy where voices are amplified and heard across miles, influencing memes and coordinating actions to emancipate the human race and the planet. A way to know we are successful? When power recognizes the legitimacy of the General Assembly constituency to speak for themselves and self-represent. *THIS IS WHY WE MARCH*. We march for values. Enough of Libert, Egalit, Fraternit. Rather, let's chant a new song: Humanization, Emancipation, Solidarity! Thoughts? ** **

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of J Wedes Victoria Frye; september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: facebook censorship? Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:30:37 PM

yes, just tweeted about this. can somebody research Facebook Terms of Service -justin On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Victoria Frye <vicnyc@me.com> wrote: Hi, I went to this fbk page Minister Erik R. McGregor (Albums) and his photos are blacked out. Best, Tory Victoria (Tory) Frye vicnyc@me.com 646-418-6435

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Fwd: [Labor OWS] TWU Blasts City for NYPD commandeering MTA buses, drivers, for Bridge arrests Monday, October 03, 2011 10:25:57 AM

Would these bus operators have any standing refusing to perform an illegal action and refusing to become an accomplice in what is essentially 700 counts of kidnapping and assault? On Oct 3, 9:53 am, Doug Singsen <dougsing...@gmail.com> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------> From: acpolla...@juno.com <acpolla...@juno.com> > Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:45 AM > Subject: [Labor OWS] TWU Blasts City for NYPD commandeering MTA buses, > drivers, for Bridge arrests > To: labor-outreach-committee@googlegroups.com > > This is huge. TWU's response to this outrage is great. > Notice the cops got MTA bosses to order drivers to drive the commandeered > buses. > > ---------- Original Message ---------> From: Dan DiMaggio > To: acpolla...@gmail.com > Subject:TWU Blasts City for Putting Occupy Wall St. Arrestees on Buses > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:36:47 -0400 > > "The Transport Workers > Union will go to court Monday to try to stop the city from forcing bus > drivers to > transport Wall Street protesters arrested by the NYPD, the Daily News has > learned... > "TWU Local 100 supports the protesters on Wall Street and takes great > offense that the mayor and NYPD have ordered operators to transport citizens > who were exercising their constitutional right to protest - and shouldn't > have been arrested in the first place," Samuelsen said Sunday night. > Full:http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/03/2011-10-03_twu_blasts_... > ________________________________________________

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Fwd: Confirming our agreement to meet today, 2:30 pm Monday, October 03, 2011 12:09:35 PM

I will not be able to come myself, but could you perhaps provide a short background of what has occurred so far? On Oct 3, 11:27 am, J Wedes <jwe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey all, > > Who is able to join me for this meeting? > > The important discussions will be about local resident concerns of sound > level, public use of space, etc. > > Ro is from Community Board 1, and is considering even supporting our cause > after presenting a resolution AGAINST it that was voted down at a meeting > last week. > > /justin > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------> From: Ro Sheffe <ro.m...@att.net> > Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:31 AM > Subject: Confirming our agreement to meet today, 2:30 pm > To: Justin Wedes <occupywallstreet.f...@gmail.com> > > Justin, > > To confirm our phone conversation, we'll meet with you later today, at 2:30 > pm, as we agreed: > > Monday, 3 Oct., 2:30 pm > *Meade's Restaurant* > 22 Peck Slip, at Water Street > Map: *http://g.co/maps/ywh5s > > * <http://g.co/maps/ywh5s>I look forward to seeing you there. I can be > contacted by cell phone if necessary at the number below. > > Thanks, > > -ro > 917-592-5284

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: hero"s email/phone Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:10:05 PM

Hero? On Oct 2, 2:50 pm, J Wedes <jwe...@gmail.com> wrote: > anyone got it? > > -justin

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow. Monday, October 03, 2011 11:41:39 AM

Is there a way that I can remotely participate in this meeting through Skype or something? On Oct 3, 10:26 am, Doug Singsen <dougsing...@gmail.com> wrote: > We need to set a time to meet and discuss this. I assume this should be done > through the direct action committee. (The tactical committee seems to have > become direct action, I believe.) > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Will Gauss <willga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > In my opinion, the First Amendment trumps city law. This is exactly the > > kind of chilling law which the First Amendment's assembly and speech > > protections is designed to prevent. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM, "Jackie DiSalvo" <jdisa...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > > > ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** > > > It is illegal for over 20 people to meet in a city park. **** > > > ** ** > > -----------------------------> > > *From:* **september17@googlegroups**.**com** [mailto:** > > september17@googlegroups**.**com**] *On Behalf Of *Gabriel Johnson > > *Sent:* Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:59 PM > > *To:* **september17@googlegroups**.**com** > > *Subject:* Re: [september17discuss] ****Liberty** **Park**** is filling to > > capacity**.** We need to plan for overflow**.****** > > > ** ** > > > I was in the process of typing up a reply, saw your email, you are probably > > right**.** Key points: Public parks do technically close, and I don't > > think ****Washington** **Square** **Park**** is an ideal location for > > other reasons**.** Is "direct action" the new name for tactical? And when > > + where are the meetings?**** > > > ** ** > > > --glj**** > > > ** ** > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Doug Singsen < <dougsing...@gmail.com> > > dougsing...@gmail.com> wrote:****

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Since this is a sensitive security issue, we may not want to discuss this on the public listserv because it's undoubtedly under police surveillance* *.** We should probably call a meeting of the direct action working group to discuss this in person**.**

> Doug**** > ** ** > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic < <willga...@gmail.com> > willga...@gmail.com> wrote:**** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, the NYPD has allowed ****Liberty** **Park**** to be occupied, and from what I see the occupation there is stable**.** Though, I am sure that they are looking for any excuse to clear the park**.** One such excuse could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding**.** These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD**.** In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park, preferably a larger one**.** We should absolutely continue to use **** Liberty**** Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will not house the entire 99%**.** I propose that we explore how we might assume control of ****Washington** **Square** **Park******.** As public land, there is no excuse for eviction that we are trespassing**.** A physically large presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a bicycle to something**.** There are arches which we can triumphantly march through and return through**.** The open aerial coverage presents multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a sea of people like the pictures we saw from ****Tahrir Square**** in **** Egypt******.** This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration**.** I suspect that the ****Liberty** **Park**** demonstration is self-limiting** .** People will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people**.** So, the physical dimensions of ****Liberty** **Plaza**** limits the number of occupants naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not**.** I do not propose that we occupy ****Washington** **Square** **Park****immediately, only that we begin planning for it**.** On Wednesday, we will have significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay by any and all mans**.** I suggest that once the march returns to **** Liberty**** Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to ****Washington**** ****Square** **Park**** to found a brand new encampment there**.******

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of MikeA september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow. Monday, October 03, 2011 2:36:16 PM

I can confirm that the Tactical Committee has indeed evolved into the Direct Action Committee. Those of us from the original Tactical Committee are not really involved in the Direct Action Committee since we can't be in the park every day, but the new people who have taken over are doing an awesome job. I don't have contact info for any of them but I know that one of the more active members is named Chris. To find him and the rest of the committee, it's probably best to go to a GA and talk to them after the committee gives a report back. You can be certain that they're already discussing this issue. As some people have already mentioned, it's best not to discuss potential new occupation locations on this listserve. -Mike Andrews

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow. Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:57:32 PM

Unfortunately, after my arrest on the 24th I can no longer physically be there. If it is possible for someone to store my proposal to bring up later, please, do share and remove my post here. On Oct 2, 10:55 pm, Doug Singsen <dougsing...@gmail.com> wrote: > Since this is a sensitive security issue, we may not want to discuss this on > the public listserv because it's undoubtedly under police surveillance. We > should probably call a meeting of the direct action working group to discuss > this in person. > > Doug > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic <willga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from > > what I see the occupation there is stable. Though, I am sure that > > they are looking for any excuse to clear the park. One such excuse > > could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding. > > These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD. > > > In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park, > > preferably a larger one. We should absolutely continue to use Liberty > > Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will > > not house the entire 99%. I propose that we explore how we might > > assume control of Washington Square Park. As public land, there is no > > excuse for eviction that we are trespassing. A physically large > > presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because > > they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person > > who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a > > bicycle to something. There are arches which we can triumphantly > > march through and return through. The open aerial coverage presents > > multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a > > sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt. > > > This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration. I > > suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting. People > > will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people. So, the > > physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants > > naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person > > stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not. > > > I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately, > > only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have > > significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay > > by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty > > Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like > > to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington > > Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Multilingual Media Contacts Monday, October 03, 2011 2:09:32 PM

Will, arrested on the 24th, English speaker. On Oct 3, 1:35 pm, Micah White <micahmwh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I need the names of anyone willing to speak to the media about #ows who > speaks a language other than English. > > Right now, I especially need someone who speaks English. But, all other > languages are also necessary. > > Please email me your name, language spoken, and cell phone number. > > Thanks, > > Micah

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Micah White september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Multilingual Media Contacts Monday, October 03, 2011 1:38:53 PM

Sorry, I meant to say I need someone who speaks Spanish especially. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Micah White <micahmwhite@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, I need the names of anyone willing to speak to the media about #ows who speaks a language other than English. Right now, I especially need someone who speaks English. But, all other languages are also necessary. Please email me your name, language spoken, and cell phone number. Thanks, Micah

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Justine Conor Toms Reed september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Please add labor outreach working group mtg to tmrw"s OWS site calendar Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:46:39 PM

Added to the calendar. Please forgive us for not being as hasty recently updating the calendar. I just got back to NYC and will be working on moving the site to our new server all night :D Anyone on this list who wants permissions to modify the calendar, just let me know. 2011/10/2 Conor Toms Reed <conortomasreed@gmail.com> Hello, The OWS labor outreach working group is meeting tomorrow at 6pm under the big red sculpture. Will someone with admin capacities please add this to the OWS and NYCGA sites? Also, when can we get an updated OWS home page that briefly shows yesterday's arrest figures and key articles, but also importantly highlights this mega-march on Wednesday? No disrespect, but we need to tighten our online updates so more folks can get activated! -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Lauren september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Police leads the march into the street Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:22:09 AM

As a safety I suggest everyone download a copy of it. On Oct 2, 9:51 am, Winter Siroco <wintersir...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fockzr7rXys > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Vicente Rubio <vrubi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-chan...

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Lauren september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Propaganda Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:55:21 PM

Nobody did. They're acting on their own, the plan is stupid. I know the details of it and I'm pretty sure it's either a false flag op or something put together by a clueless group. On Oct 4, 5:48 pm, <frog...@networkpimps.com> wrote: > Here is another FOX News story that can have a negative impact. Who > recruited Anonymous' involvement anyway? > > http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/04/hacker-group-anonymous-thre...

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Start a legal fund for arrestees? Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:27:34 PM

Raise money for general legal, but we will NOT cave in to NYPD extortion, assault, and kidnapping. On Oct 2, 3:52 pm, Doug Singsen <dougsing...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can we start one? I think that everybody who was arrested got at least 3 > tickets, which could easily run $300-600 each, which many of us can't > afford. Can we start a legal defense fund to pay for these fines? We have > been able to raise money so quickly, I think we could raise the entire > amount before our desk appearances in December. > > Doug S

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Start a legal fund for arrestees? Sunday, October 02, 2011 5:40:11 PM

That's $300-600 for the 3 tickets combined, not for each ticket. With 700 arrested, that's $21K to $42K, plus 80 arrested the week before, which could be anywhere from $8K up, depending on how many tickets were given. That's a lot of money but doable given the results of previous fundraising, especially stretched out over two and a half months to raise the money. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: Can we start one? I think that everybody who was arrested got at least 3 tickets, which could easily run $300-600 each, which many of us can't afford. Can we start a legal defense fund to pay for these fines? We have been able to raise money so quickly, I think we could raise the entire amount before our desk appearances in December. Doug S

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of hextic september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: URGENT: Does anyone have... Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:45:03 PM

I have taken the Youtube video and downloaded it, and stored it in several secure locations. Let me know if you need it. On Oct 2, 10:11 am, "J.A. Myerson" <jesse.myer...@gmail.com> wrote: > ...footage of police complicity as protesters entered the roadway? This > looks like it will prove critical. > > JAM > > -> J.A. Myersonhttp://www.jamyerson.com > 347.688.0241

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Sarah Mellow Yellow september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: URGENT: Safer Spaces and Non-violence Monday, October 03, 2011 10:59:45 PM

Thank you SO MUCH for addressing this. I'm looking forward to hearing back from the meeting, and will see what I can do to help maintain a a truly safer space at OWS. Best, Sarah On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Mellow Yellow <disorganizecm@gmail.com> wrote: Hi All Amazing and Peaceful people, I am going to propose at tonight's GA (if there is a nycga listserve can someone re-post this there) that the NYC GA become a signatory supporter of the statement on the website below. http://riseabovenyc.org/ Non-police individuals who have a history of violent language, threats and behavior towards myself and other activists were seen at Liberty Plaza Sunday afternoon/evening. I have spoken to many people who witnessed abusive and aggressive language and behavior last night during the GA seeking the expulsion of other individuals who HAVE NOT exhibited violent or abusive behavior at Liberty Plaza. Unfortunately it seems that the majority of the "Safer Spaces" working group is complicit in this behavior within OWS space, and there will also hopefully be some discussion about working group accountability, for ALL WORKING GROUPS tonight. If any representatives of the Safer Spaces group would like to meet with me at Liberty Plaza at 6pm under the red thing to address these concerns in a non-violent manner, I would really appreciate the chance speak and listen to them regarding the group's actions. Abuse, inter-personal violence and oppression of all forms are serious, and I am not defending abusers. However, survivors and abusers both require support in moving on, either from being a victim or to being held accountable. Accountability and Safer Space are the crux of the Occupation. . PLEASE TAKE THIS INTERNAL THREAT VERY SERIOUSLY, as it is a part of a very divisive and ugly history within the New York City activist/anarchist community. I do not want to see OWS implode from the inside. The Banksters and the State will have an easy time sweeping us away if we get bogged down in violent infighting instead of the civil, horizontal consensus process we have enjoyed thus far. With Sincerity and Peace in my heart, Mellow Yellow @critmasspanic

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Mellow Yellow september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: URGENT: Safer Spaces and Non-violence Monday, October 03, 2011 4:31:57 PM

Jon, Thank you for your appropriate response. I wish I did not have to bring this up. I have not been able to join any of the working groups in question, so I am just looking for answers and accountability from the working groups. This IS a larger GA/structure issue, not just Safer Spaces. I agree I would prefer this to not be here at all. But actors on both sides have made their presence apparent at Liberty Plaza, and I don't think ignoring it will make it disappear. But maybe it will. Discuss with me at 6? No Peeps mic needed. MY On Oct 3, 4:01 pm, Jon Good <therealjong...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh, for fuck's sake. PLEASE DO NOT have any of this discussion within > Liberty Plaza. It will be an all-singing, all-dancing shit show. There are > plenty of public, open spaces (some even nearby the square) that will be > less problematic. As Mellow Yellow admits, this issue has torn apart > activist circles again and again and again and again. > > I really think both sides need to walk away, right now. There are thousands > of us. No single person is important enough that their physical presence at > OWS will make any difference or be integral to the movement. There are > plenty of things you can do to help the occupation that do not require you > to physically be at Liberty Plaza. Please do those. Please do not turnthis > ridiculously convoluted issue into our problem. > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Mellow Yellow <disorganiz...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Hi All Amazing and Peaceful people, > > > I am going to propose at tonight's GA (if there is a nycga listserve can > > someone re-post this there) that the NYC GA become a signatory supporter of > > the statement on the website below. > > >http://riseabovenyc.org/ > > > Non-police individuals who have a history of violent language, threats and > > behavior towards myself and other activists were seen at Liberty Plaza > > Sunday afternoon/evening. I have spoken to many people who witnessed abusive > > and aggressive language and behavior last night during the GA seeking the > > expulsion of other individuals who HAVE NOT exhibited violent or abusive > > behavior at Liberty Plaza. Unfortunately it seems that the majority of the > > "Safer Spaces" working group is complicit in this behavior within OWS space, > > and there will also hopefully be some discussion about working group > > accountability, for ALL WORKING GROUPS tonight. If any representatives of > > the Safer Spaces group would like to meet with me at Liberty Plaza at 6pm > > under the red thing to address these concerns in a non-violent manner, I > > would really appreciate the chance speak and listen to them regarding the > > group's actions. Abuse, inter-personal violence and oppression of all forms

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are serious, and I am not defending abusers. However, survivors and abusers both require support in moving on, either from being a victim or to being held accountable. Accountability and Safer Space are the crux of the Occupation. . PLEASE TAKE THIS INTERNAL THREAT VERY SERIOUSLY, as it is a part of a very divisive and ugly history within the New York City activist/anarchist community. I do not want to see OWS implode from the inside. The Banksters and the State will have an easy time sweeping us away if we get bogged down in violent infighting instead of the civil, horizontal consensus process we have enjoyed thus far.

> With Sincerity and Peace in my heart, > Mellow Yellow > @critmasspanic

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Wall Street is War Street: Antiwar rally on Sat, Oct 15 moved to OWS Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:25:24 PM

BTW, this is marking the tenth anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan, which is also the start date for the October2011 occupation in Washington, DC, which starts on Thursday. The NYC march was moved back a week from the anniversary date so it wouldn't conflict with the DC occupation. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: It was originally going to be targeted at 3 embassies in Midtown, but the United National Antiwar Committee (UNAC) voted to move it downtown.

Wall Street Is War Street


On the 10th Anniversary of U.S. War in Afghanistan

Sat. OCT. 15,


Noon Rally at Wall Street
March to Occupy Wall Street Encampment
Liberty & Broadway

NO to Endless WARS!

Oct. 15 is a day of nationally coordinated antiwar actions in cities across the U.S., the 10th anniversary of the massively destructive and criminal U.S. war on Afghanistan.

When the U.S. government began its attack on Afghanistan 10 years ago, President Bush called it a war on terror. It was followed by 8 years of U.S. war Iraq and now war in Libya and drone wars on Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Sudan under Pres. Obama. These are all wars for oil, resources and markets in the interests of corporate power.

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At the same time, the U.S. government is carrying out attacks on working people within the U.S., cutting back on health care and education while bailing out the Wall St. banks and insurance companies. Every time people call for money for social services, we are told there is no money, but the government always finds money for its wars. It is increasing repression on Muslims, on Black and Latino youth and on those who protest, as the FBI raids on anti-war demonstrators and the NYPD attacks on the peaceful Occupy Wall St. demonstrators show. Join us in a march to demand an end to U.S. wars in Afghanistan & Iraq, an end to U.S. aid to Israel, and an end to U.S. bombing and destruction in Libya and an end to the growing repression at home.

We NEED Jobs, Health Care & Education NOT War, Racism & Repression -------------------------------Followed by a 4 pm Solidarity Meeting with Carlos Montes, a speaker from the Victor Toro Defense Committee, immigrant rights and antiwar activists facing government attack and phony charges, and Cyrus McGoldrick from the NY Council on American Islamic Relations.

At Judson Memorial Church, Washington Square South & Thompson St., NYC Called by: United National Antiwar Coalition (UNAC), www.UNACpeace.org

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Michael Friedman september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] So Real it Hurts - Notes on Occupy Wall Street: Manissa McCleave Maharawal on struggling with racism Wednesday, October 05, 2011 9:15:47 AM

http://www.leftturn.org/so-real-it-hurts-notes-occupy-wall-street So Real it Hurts - Notes on Occupy Wall Street By: Manissa McCleave Maharawal Date Published: October 4, 2011 I first went down to Occupy Wall Street last Sunday, almost a week after it had started. I didn't go down before because I, like many of my other brown friends, was wary of what we had heard or just intuited that it was mostly a young, white male scene. When I asked friends about it they said different things: that it was really white; that it was all people they didn't know; and that they weren't sure what was going on. But after hearing about the arrests and police brutality on Saturday, September 24th and after hearing that thousands of people had turned up for their march I decided I needed to see this thing for myself. [.....]

Michael Friedman, Ph.D. Visiting Scientist Sackler Institute for Comparative Genomics American Museum of Natural History 79th Street and Central Park West New York, NY 10024 Cell: 718-812-4246

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:32 PM, <september17@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/september17/topics > > Sound Permit [2 Updates] > Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the > Horizon [5 Updates] > OccupyWallStreet Economic Statement Draft 1 [3 Updates] > Propaganda [2 Updates] > The PR company I told you was "representing" OWS Fwd: Workhouse PR [3 > Updates] > persons running wearethe99percent.tumblr.com [1 Update] > Welcome Flyer [1 Update] > Wall Street is War Street: Antiwar rally on Sat, Oct 15 moved to OWS [5 > Updates] > Miami Herald - Phone interview - TODAY [2 Updates]

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URGENT: Safer Spaces and Non-violence [1 Update] Topic: Sound Permit jemcgloin@verizon.net Oct 04 04:42PM -0500 ^ Here's an article about the power of the human mic. I also think the human mic is part of our magic and I think we should keep it. http://www.thenation.com/blog/163767/we-are-all-human-microphones-now?rel=emailNation

gail zawacki <witsendnj@gmail.com> Oct 04 06:22PM -0400 ^ The human mic, which is so patiently and tenderly transmitting different points of view, is one of the most moving things to witness at OWS. It is however, inefficient in larger crowds.

Topic: Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the Horizon "Richard S." <chardsinger@yahoo.com> Oct 04 02:19PM -0700 ^ Although I am not an active participant or Liberty Plaza Park camper right now, I cannot resist answering some of the messages/ideas expressed on this e-mail list. If people feel I shouldn't be doing so, just let me know... Ale, I have two concerns when I read your description/message below. One is that in your idea about why we are marching (and I still can include myself in that "we" because I have been marching with many of you a lot of the time), you seem to have forgotten about the very crushing, real, concrete economic hardship that is being inflicted on so many of us, about the crisis of unemployment in a society in which employment is required - at least at some point - for survival (and is also used by many as a measure of one's worthiness to participate in society), and about the absurd inequality of our economic system. I thought inequality was one of the main reasons that we are marching. So, I am always baffled by your repeated insistence on dropping "egalite" from the "song" that you think we should chant. Secondly, I love the idea of general assemblies spreading throughout the world to practice and create direct participatory democracy. However, I hope that the concept of direct, participatory democracy being pursued does not have to include all the features of consensus process (or a particular kind of consensus process) that have been popular with activist groups for a while. (People who don't know say this is all new, but I know it isn't. When I first joined the GA, I was surprised at how many details and gimmicks in the process were identical to what I'd seen in Direct Action Network a dozen years ago.) My biggest fear in this area is with regard to the danger that consensus process has begun to be seen as a necessary ingredient in direct democracy (which it most certainly is not). I have heard that the GAs are really falling back on a form of majority voting pretty often anyway (is this true?), but I think that the emphasis on

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consensus, and the equation of many people (especially the newer activists) between consensus and "real democracy" would be a drag on the effectiveness and popularity of general assemblies in general. I am also concerned that the movement for democratic assemblies might be dragged down by the numerous gimmicks that are peculiar to this trend in process, but which I don't see as necessary - e.g., everything from "vibes watching" to certain identity-based concepts of the progressive stack to the twinkling of fingers (I don't mind "twinkling," I do it myself :) - but a lot of people don't see that as necessary at all). Because of time limits, I can't really comment adequately re. other thoughts that have occurred to me. However, I will add that I don't see all concerns related to all different "dissent social movements" (which is a broad enough category to be very changeable and debatable) as being "points" from which the social struggle and eventual revolution (I hope) to oppose and replace the present socialeconomic system can be waged with equal significance or effectiveness. (Hoping that sentence is not too convoluted, but again, my eloquence in this matter is limited by time, as I am a very slow writer.) And while I know this is a terrible heresy here and now, I do think that one "concern" and source of struggle that can unite the broadest range of people in a struggle against the root of our problems is class. I would say, "class" as a concept that can be debated, studied, updated beyond the usual stereotypical assumptions, but class nonetheless, based on people's economic role in the society. (Call me a dated old Marxist, if you like - though I was an anarchist activist first, well acquainted with these many supposedly "new" approaches a good number of years ago.) And, on a related point - or back to the first point - I also kind of thought we were marching to address issues of economic power and control that have been neglected by fashionable activist movements in our area for decades, which is one major reason we find ourselves in the present social disaster. Anyway, I hope this message has not been too cumbersome, and once again, if I am too detached from the group (at least in physical presence) to be offering such lengthy and somewhat dissenting opinions, you (all) should just tell me, and I will take that into major consideration. :) Richard On Oct 4, 3:36 pm, "Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho"

Jon Good <therealjongood@gmail.com> Oct 04 05:32PM -0400 ^ We need a one-line SOMETHING. I don't care if it's a demand, a definition, a purpose, or whatever, but we need a snappy, inspiring, and easily communicable idea so people can quickly understand what we're about. "We are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms" is a good start, but it's kind of a tounge-twister. I firmly believe we can come up with something of a similar sentiment that so simple, so universal, so immediately true that even my idiot cousin in the Tea Party will hear it and say "wow, that makes way more sense than this Tea Party shit" and come join this movement. A simple idea that can spread like wildfire.

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Solidarity, Jon *Tea Partiers themselves are not always bad people, they're just confused, angry, and so eager to do SOMETHING that they're grabbing onto the toxic messages of hatred that Big Business is packaging as a populist movement. It's exactly the same way that the fascists were able to take power in the 1930s: by appealing to the worst instincts of people. If we can figure out how to inspire people's best instincts instead, they will come to us in droves.

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Will Gauss <willgauss@gmail.com> Oct 04 05:42PM -0400 ^ "True freedom for all people, forever." Sent from my iPhone

Gabriel Johnson <gabjoh2@gmail.com> Oct 04 06:01PM -0400 ^ Against the massive concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a select few. --glj

gail zawacki <witsendnj@gmail.com> Oct 04 06:20PM -0400 ^ I actually think any economic issues are wholly subsumed by environmental issues - you can't eat money - having said that, perhaps it's time for a movie break (even if it is mainly economic)! http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupyeverywhere.html

Topic: OccupyWallStreet Economic Statement Draft 1 shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> Oct 04 03:58PM -0400 ^ Goals/demands/visions are all the same thing, it is a program, a collective consciousness and raison d'etre, some basic agreements of good faith between ourselves--there is much to celebrate here, unity is success. Now, this

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collective consciousness is not fixed but in transformation. We need NOT be afraid of demands/goals/visions/program, as we have already accomplished a major democratic feat : we have established that it will be a LIVING DOCUMENT; that it can by modified in time, elaborated upon, examined, clarified and worked out according to lessons collectively learned. We should begin to take ourselves in good faith and put forth a basic agenda, demands, etc, whatever we decide how little or how much, even if that is just posing certain questions to the media to the world, to address the public audience---our goal is to increase our base and support in the public, ie. grow in number--which we must do through our outreach. With this purpose in mind, using our own instruments of dissemination, we are quite capable of conveying tools of empowerment to the public at large--our success lies not only internal dialogue and diversity, but in our public support and its growth and further transformation.... open ended platform. One thing to always keep in mind, that is currently missing in our day to day program, is a sober examination of the international GA's, their lessons and their successes. We must stand together with international occupations, not only do they give us valuable tools, but also inform us on economic models for consideration. These alliances increase our constituency exponentially on a global level and also correct us from playing into american chauvinism, something that we all take for granted. WE MUST STAND in solidarity with global protest movements in the world. We are not alone. We need to address our economy in context of demands emerging from other occupations as well as our domestic crisis. This is what WALL STREET and the US WAR machine completely fails to do. This is where our goals and demands not only become meaningful on a national level, but in solidarity with other GAs we find that our solutions are not only really possible, completely feasible and rational, but they are in harmony with a future that must come to pass on this planet. One of the main goals of forming a working group on Economy and Global Democracy would be to ally ourselves and build bridges with other other occupations, exchange notes, present this to the body, also good tidings of victory as well as lessons mistakes crisis, we have 90 cities in the US to also ally ourselves with. All news of our brothers and sisters fighting under more austere more violent, more life and death situations so courageously, this gives us more power and legitimacy than any newspaper in the world. Let us reverberate globally in outrage and welcome all protest, reclaim our place in the world that has been hijacked by greedy warmongers, imperialists, who neither represent us nor profit us in any way and destroy movements for progress and democracy all across the earth. We are global democratic citizens. This is a global movement. Peace and Love, Shaista

Cesar <wintersiroco@gmail.com> Oct 04 04:07PM -0400 ^ I do not expect nothing but populist concesions. If they start to work for the people tomorrow, great, it will advance our goals, but our strategy is to grow our power. Cesar Sent from phone

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> > > > > gail zawacki <witsendnj@gmail.com> Oct 04 05:58PM -0400 ^ > > But we aren't protesting one thing, like the Iraq war. If you look at > photos of the signs people carry, their are multiple issues. I have argued > that we could make the one demand - get corporate money out of politics > and many of the other issues would, and should, be resolved in a real > democracy according to what the majority of the people want v. what will > profit the plutocracy greatest. > > However there is quite a bit of resistance to boiling it all down to one > demand on the part of some of the most active and passionate occupiers, and > to allow it to be an evolving and organic process - and so I tend to think > it's up to the press, like Matt T., to explain THAT position, rather than > pressure OWS to capitulate. > > > > > Topic: Propaganda > > <frogman@networkpimps.com> Oct 04 05:48PM -0400 ^ > > Here is another FOX News story that can have a negative impact. Who > recruited Anonymous' involvement anyway? > > http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/04/hacker-group-anonymous-threatens-to-attack-stockexchange/ > > > > Lauren <celliwig@gmail.com> Oct 04 02:55PM -0700 ^ > > Nobody did. They're acting on their own, the plan is stupid. I know > the details of it and I'm pretty sure it's either a false flag op or > something put together by a clueless group. > > > > > Topic: The PR company I told you was "representing" OWS Fwd: Workhouse PR > > jemcgloin@verizon.net Oct 04 04:27PM -0500 ^ > > This sound sangerous to me also > > On 10/04/11, Doug Singsen<dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: > > +1 > > Sent from my phone > > On Oct 4, 2011 8:19 AM, "Jon Good" <therealjongood@gmail.com> wrote: > > WTF? I appreciate that folks are eager to help, but I am very, very wary of > this. It could be really nice to have their noise machine at our disposal, > but in general, using the structures and systems of huge corporations

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presents a danger of this movement acting like corporation. Also, I'm fairly sure no entity can be the "official" anything of Occupy Wall Street without passing consensus in the GA. Public relations, generally, is about controlling peoples' perceptions and ideas about certain things. We shouldn't do this, because it's antithetical to participatory democracy. Moreover, we haven't defined ourselves or consensed upon demands, so any of their usual schtick would be hijacking the process of defining us. I would welcome their suggestions for strategies for reaching large numbers of people, and would welcome their considerable skills to talk us up in the media, but OWS is not their client and a corporate firm should probably not "represent" us in any sense of the word. Solidarity, Jon On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:20 AM, J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> wrote: Has anyone else from this list been in discussion with Workhouse PR? Just trying to understand if we are outsourcing "PR" work. -justin ---------- Forwarded message ---------From: RM <rebeccaction@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:14 AM Subject: Re: The PR company I told you was "representing" OWS Fwd: Workhouse PR To: J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> Certainly and of course! Please be sure to keep me in the loop going forward, thanks. -Rebecca On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 AM, J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Rebecca, Can I forward this info about Workhouse PR onto the september 17 listserv? I just want to make sure that everyone is aware of the conversations going on about PR. -justin On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:45 AM, RM <rebeccaction@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Justin, Nice to meet you briefly today.

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> Here's a FW from my roommate, who runs the occupyinfo twitter account. He > was contacted by Workhouse PR, which does work for big clients like Saks > Fifth Avenue. > > He said they seemed well-intentioned and were volunteering their time. > Here's a link to an article or two about this release to the media they did > about Saturday's protests: > > http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2011/10/03/2011-1003_occupy_wall_street_protesters_picked_up_by_public_relations_firm_workhouse_probo.html > > http://gawker.com/5846154/occupy-wall-street-gets-much+needed-help-from-pr-firm > > We should both be in touch with these folks, right? > > Would you do me a favor and cc: me on your correspondence? And I will do the > same. > > Be well, > > -Rebecca > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------> > From: Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> > > Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:55 PM > > Subject: Fwd: Workhouse PR > > To: rebeccaction@gmail.com > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------> > From: William Schwartz <will.js1@gmail.com> > > Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:49 PM > > Subject: Re: Workhouse PR > > To: Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> > > Well they are volunteering their help. I just chatted them up on twitter. > There was an article in the New York Post about it too. > > William Schwartz > > 917.385.5047 > > Connect! > > http://twitter.com/2William > > On 3 October 2011 18:47, Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> wrote: > > Are you joking! > > > >

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jemcgloin@verizon.net Oct 04 04:36PM -0500 ^ I actually think your stategy is backward. The way i see it first you get large numbers of people to join by showing how reasonable you are. Then when the numbers are big enough, they will feel their oats, get impatient, and start demanding more than you could have imagined. (Never underestimate mob mentality.) But if you talk about overthrowing governments, capitalism or wholesale changes, most of the 99% will be scared off, and we'll never have the power we need to affect real change. In order to fight the global coporations I estimate we need a minimum of 15 million Americans on the street. There are not 15 million radical socialist/anarchists in the US. We need people without political agendas, but with anger at coporations. I am also wary of using PR firms, by the way. (Athough the fact that anyone can call and be a "spokesman" shows one of our weaknesses.) On 10/04/11, Snafu<snafu@thething.it> wrote: Just heard a guy at the Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC, who called in as an OWS "spokesperson" and claimed to be "in charge of security at the park." The radio show was about how Wall Street traders and workers feel about the occupation. He said that he wanted the radio conversation to happen in the square (on which I can agree) and then added that OWS is not about class warfare but about getting things done and bringing about change. The overall tone was that of a reassuring middle-class guy speaking to middle America. While this communicative style may help expand our ranks, it will also help change the social composition of the movement in such a way that if any reforms are ever passed, they will be probably so watered-down that they will change in fact nothing. I am not sure how spokespersons are selected and whether this guy (who claimed to have appeared on several TV programs as well) has anything to do with the PR firm mentioned in this thread. But I want to raise the point that this way of communicating can have serious political consequences, some of which may not be that desirable. I think we should try and select spokespersons who are able to express a more radical point of view in a reasonable way. On 10/4/11 9:25 AM, Doug Singsen wrote: +1 Sent from my phone On Oct 4, 2011 8:19 AM, "Jon Good" <therealjongood@gmail.com> wrote: WTF? I appreciate that folks are eager to help, but I am very, very wary of this. It could be really nice to have their noise machine at our disposal, but in general, using the structures and systems of huge corporations presents a danger of this movement acting like corporation. Also, I'm fairly sure no entity can be the "official" anything of Occupy Wall Street without passing consensus in the GA. Public relations, generally, is about controlling peoples' perceptions and ideas about certain things. We shouldn't do this, because it's antithetical to participatory democracy. Moreover, we haven't defined ourselves or consensed upon demands, so any of their usual schtick would be hijacking the process of defining us.

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> I would welcome their suggestions for strategies for reaching large numbers > of people, and would welcome their considerable skills to talk us up in the > media, but OWS is not their client and a corporate firm should probably not > "represent" us in any sense of the word. > > Solidarity, > > Jon > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:20 AM, J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> wrote: > > Has anyone else from this list been in discussion with Workhouse PR? Just > trying to understand if we are outsourcing "PR" work. > > -justin > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------> > From: RM <rebeccaction@gmail.com> > > Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:14 AM > > Subject: Re: The PR company I told you was "representing" OWS Fwd: Workhouse > PR > > To: J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> > > Certainly and of course! Please be sure to keep me in the loop going > forward, thanks. > > -Rebecca > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 AM, J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Rebecca, > > Can I forward this info about Workhouse PR onto the september 17 listserv? > > I just want to make sure that everyone is aware of the conversations going > on about PR. > > -justin > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:45 AM, RM <rebeccaction@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Justin, > > Nice to meet you briefly today. > > Here's a FW from my roommate, who runs the occupyinfo twitter account. He > was contacted by Workhouse PR, which does work for big clients like Saks > Fifth Avenue. > > He said they seemed well-intentioned and were volunteering their time. > Here's a link to an article or two about this release to the media they did > about Saturday's protests: > > http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2011/10/03/2011-1003_occupy_wall_street_protesters_picked_up_by_public_relations_firm_workhouse_probo.html >

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http://gawker.com/5846154/occupy-wall-street-gets-much+needed-help-from-pr-firm We should both be in touch with these folks, right? Would you do me a favor and cc: me on your correspondence? And I will do the same. Be well, -Rebecca ---------- Forwarded message ---------From: Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:55 PM Subject: Fwd: Workhouse PR To: rebeccaction@gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------From: William Schwartz <will.js1@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Workhouse PR To: Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> Well they are volunteering their help. I just chatted them up on twitter. There was an article in the New York Post about it too. William Schwartz 917.385.5047 Connect! http://twitter.com/2William On 3 October 2011 18:47, Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> wrote: Are you joking!

jemcgloin@verizon.net Oct 04 04:37PM -0500 ^ +1 On 10/04/11, Will Gauss<willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: To protect us from people lying about representing us, put to a vote at the GA today that we make a blanket statement informing the media that no company speaks for us and to reject any speaker who claims otherwise as a liar.

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Then, form a working group to select -individuals- who are authorized to speak for us. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Micah White <micahmwhite@gmail.com> wrote: Beware of corporate co-optation in all its guises. They want to "help" #OWS for a reason. To maintain our authenticity we must reject all corporate influence. We must not become a corporate sponsored movement. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Snafu <snafu@thething.it> wrote: Just heard a guy at the Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC, who called in as an OWS "spokesperson" and claimed to be "in charge of security at the park." The radio show was about how Wall Street traders and workers feel about the occupation. He said that he wanted the radio conversation to happen in the square (on which I can agree) and then added that OWS is not about class warfare but about getting things done and bringing about change. The overall tone was that of a reassuring middle-class guy speaking to middle America. While this communicative style may help expand our ranks, it will also help change the social composition of the movement in such a way that if any reforms are ever passed, they will be probably so watered-down that they will change in fact nothing. I am not sure how spokespersons are selected and whether this guy (who claimed to have appeared on several TV programs as well) has anything to do with the PR firm mentioned in this thread. But I want to raise the point that this way of communicating can have serious political consequences, some of which may not be that desirable. I think we should try and select spokespersons who are able to express a more radical point of view in a reasonable way. On 10/4/11 9:25 AM, Doug Singsen wrote: +1 Sent from my phone On Oct 4, 2011 8:19 AM, "Jon Good" <therealjongood@gmail.com> wrote: WTF? I appreciate that folks are eager to help, but I am very, very wary of this. It could be really nice to have their noise machine at our disposal, but in general, using the structures and systems of huge corporations presents a danger of this movement acting like corporation. Also, I'm fairly sure no entity can be the "official" anything of Occupy Wall Street without passing consensus in the GA. Public relations, generally, is about controlling peoples' perceptions and ideas about certain things. We shouldn't do this, because it's antithetical to participatory democracy. Moreover, we haven't defined ourselves or consensed upon demands, so any of their usual schtick would be hijacking the process of defining us. I would welcome their suggestions for strategies for reaching large numbers of people, and would welcome their considerable skills to talk us up in the media, but OWS is not their client and a corporate firm should probably not

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> "represent" us in any sense of the word. > > Solidarity, > > Jon > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:20 AM, J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> wrote: > > Has anyone else from this list been in discussion with Workhouse PR? Just > trying to understand if we are outsourcing "PR" work. > > -justin > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------> > From: RM <rebeccaction@gmail.com> > > Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:14 AM > > Subject: Re: The PR company I told you was "representing" OWS Fwd: Workhouse > PR > > To: J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> > > Certainly and of course! Please be sure to keep me in the loop going > forward, thanks. > > -Rebecca > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 AM, J Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Rebecca, > > Can I forward this info about Workhouse PR onto the september 17 listserv? > > I just want to make sure that everyone is aware of the conversations going > on about PR. > > -justin > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:45 AM, RM <rebeccaction@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Justin, > > Nice to meet you briefly today. > > Here's a FW from my roommate, who runs the occupyinfo twitter account. He > was contacted by Workhouse PR, which does work for big clients like Saks > Fifth Avenue. > > He said they seemed well-intentioned and were volunteering their time. > Here's a link to an article or two about this release to the media they did > about Saturday's protests: > > http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2011/10/03/2011-1003_occupy_wall_street_protesters_picked_up_by_public_relations_firm_workhouse_probo.html > > http://gawker.com/5846154/occupy-wall-street-gets-much+needed-help-from-pr-firm > > We should both be in touch with these folks, right?

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Would you do me a favor and cc: me on your correspondence? And I will do the same. Be well, -Rebecca ---------- Forwarded message ---------From: Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:55 PM Subject: Fwd: Workhouse PR To: rebeccaction@gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------From: William Schwartz <will.js1@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Workhouse PR To: Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> Well they are volunteering their help. I just chatted them up on twitter. There was an article in the New York Post about it too. William Schwartz 917.385.5047 Connect! http://twitter.com/2William On 3 October 2011 18:47, Rebecca Manski <rebaleh@gmail.com> wrote: Are you joking!

Topic: persons running wearethe99percent.tumblr.com Micah White <micahmwhite@gmail.com> Oct 04 02:25PM -0700 ^ Can the persons running http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/ please email me off-list. We are getting contacted by journalists who want to speak with you. (By the way, I think you should win a webby - it is a wonderful site!) Thanks, Micah

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> > > Topic: Welcome Flyer > > jemcgloin@verizon.net Oct 04 04:23PM -0500 ^ > > Very cool, maybe a quick run through of general assembly prodedures and how > to find a working group? > > On 10/04/11, J Wedes<jwedes@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I know we have a NYC GA pamphlet, but I wanted to create something that we > could give to new campers upon arrival at the Welcome Centers. > > Here's my start on it: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ql4xnJO1y5kChYhoSCDDImMZZkPSvycCovhGGCb0BNM/edit? hl=en_US > > It lays out basic rules, info about the park/neighborhood/etc. It is by no > means exhaustive, but it's a start. > > What do people think? > > -justin > > > > Topic: Wall Street is War Street: Antiwar rally on Sat, Oct 15 moved to OWS > > Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> Oct 04 04:20PM -0400 ^ > > It was originally going to be targeted at 3 embassies in Midtown, but the > United National Antiwar Committee (UNAC) voted to move it downtown. > > *Wall Street Is War Street* > > *On the 10th Anniversary of U.S. War in Afghanistan* > > *NO to Endless WARS!***** > > *Sat. OCT. 15**,* > > *Noon Rally at Wall Street* > > *March to Occupy Wall Street Encampment* > > *Liberty & Broadway* > >** > > *Oct. 15 is a day of nationally coordinated antiwar actions in cities across > the U.S., the 10th anniversary of the massively destructive and criminal > U.S. war on Afghanistan.* > > ** ** > > When the U.S. government began its attack on Afghanistan 10 years ago, > President Bush called it a war on terror. It was followed by 8 years of

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

U.S. war Iraq and now war in Libya and drone wars on Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Sudan under Pres. Obama. These are all wars for oil, resources and markets in the interests of corporate power.**** At the same time, the U.S. government is carrying out attacks on working people within the U.S., cutting back on health care and education while bailing out the Wall St. banks and insurance companies. Every time people call for money for social services, we are told there is no money, but the government always finds money for its wars. It is increasing repression on Muslims, on Black and Latino youth and on those who protest, as the FBI raids on anti-war demonstrators and the NYPD attacks on the peaceful Occupy Wall St. demonstrators show.**** Join us in a march to demand an end to U.S. wars in Afghanistan & Iraq, an end to U.S. aid to Israel, and an end to U.S. bombing and destruction in Libya and an end to the growing repression at home.**** *We NEED***** *Jobs, Health Care & Education***** *NOT***** *War, Racism & Repression* *--------------------------------***** Followed by a *4 pm Solidarity Meeting* with Carlos Montes, a speaker from the Victor Toro Defense Committee, immigrant rights and antiwar activists facing government attack and phony charges, and Cyrus McGoldrick from the NY Council on American Islamic Relations.**** *At Judson Memorial Church, Washington Square South & Thompson St., NYC* Called by: United National Antiwar Coalition (UNAC), www.UNACpeace.org<http://www.unacpeace.org/>

Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> Oct 04 04:24PM -0400 ^ BTW, this is marking the tenth anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan, which is also the start date for the October2011 occupation in Washington, DC, which starts on Thursday. The NYC march was moved back a week from the anniversary date so it wouldn't conflict with the DC occupation.

shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> Oct 04 04:29PM -0400 ^ Great how show of support from UNAC

Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> Oct 04 04:31PM -0400 ^ UNAC is also an endorser/participant in the DC occupation.

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> > > > lisajensky@gmail.com Oct 04 08:37PM ^ > > This is great! > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----> From: Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> > Sender: september17@googlegroups.com > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:31:37 > To: <september17@googlegroups.com> > Reply-To: september17@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [september17discuss] Re: Wall Street is War Street: Antiwar > rally > on Sat, Oct 15 moved to OWS > > UNAC is also an endorser/participant in the DC occupation. > > > > > Topic: Miami Herald - Phone interview - TODAY > > Vicente Rubio <vrubiopu@gmail.com> Oct 04 04:06PM -0400 ^ > > A Miami Herald jounalist is looking for a Latinamerican OWS organizer to > interview by phone asap. Please write to moralesisa@gmail.com. > > 2011/10/4 Yotam Marom <yotam.marom@gmail.com> > > > > > grimwomyn <grimwomyn@gmail.com> Oct 04 04:23PM -0400 ^ > > I am puerto rican raised in tennessee if that fits anywhere? > >>> Hi friends. > >>> I wrote a piece about the occupation. Figured I'd put it up here in case >>> people find it useful in some way. > > http://www.zcommunications.org/a-brief-analysis-from-a-wall-street-occupier-by-yotam-marom > > > > Topic: URGENT: Safer Spaces and Non-violence > > Sarah <miss.quintessential01@gmail.com> Oct 03 10:59PM -0400 ^ > > Thank you SO MUCH for addressing this. I'm looking forward to hearing back > from the meeting, and will see what I can do to help maintain a a truly > safer space at OWS. > > Best, > Sarah >

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Marina Sitrin september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] sound permit important Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:53:43 PM

Can whoever applied for the sound permit please call me and bring the permit and written responses to the plaza today. (We have a meeting related to sound at 6pm) Thanks!! Marina (415) 623-6403 -Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Drew Hornbein september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Spanish Speaker needed for interview asap Monday, October 03, 2011 3:22:01 PM

About the protest, can be anywhere. Call 786 - 417 - 6988 RT news (from russia I think?) thanks!

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Start a legal fund for arrestees? Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:53:15 PM

Can we start one? I think that everybody who was arrested got at least 3 tickets, which could easily run $300-600 each, which many of us can't afford. Can we start a legal defense fund to pay for these fines? We have been able to raise money so quickly, I think we could raise the entire amount before our desk appearances in December. Doug S

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Micah White september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Tactical Suggestion Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:50:23 AM

Hi everyone, We all know the saying: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Well, we are in the "they fight you" stage, but it is looking a lot different than expected. Instead of hitting us head on, the corporations are trying to co-opt us. They are using a "trojan horse" tactic: once they can get themselves into a trusted position to speak on behalf of #OWS then they can blunt and/or destroy any of our revolutionary possibility. Never forget that Vodafone tried to claim credit for the Egyptian Revolution: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/03/vodafone-egypt-advert-claimsrevolution And Coca-Cola put up special advertising to align themselves with the revolutionaries of Tahrir Square as well. Some advertising agencies specialize in launching seemingly counter-cultural movements. And they are watching everything we do: http://roarmag.org/2011/08/the-revolution-will-not-be-commercialized/ Another example from something I wrote last year: "The collapsing distinction between marketing and activism is revealed in the cautionary tale of TckTckTck, a purported climate change organisation with 17 million members. Widely hailed as an innovator of digital activism, TckTckTck is a project of Havas Worldwide, the world's sixth-largest advertising company. A corporation that uses advertising to foment ecologically unsustainable overconsumption, Havas bears significant responsibility for the climate change TckTckTck decries." Now, it is more important than ever to be on our guard against those who wish to "speak for us" or "help us". They have an agenda.. they are fighting by playing nice. I propose that GA discuss the following proposal: Proposal: "We believe that corporate money should not be allowed to influence democracy. Therefore, the General Assembly will not accept donations, financial or otherwise, from corporations. Furthermore, we will not allow corporate advertising to be placed on websites affiliated with our occupation. We will resist efforts by corporations to co-opt our movement towards real democracy in America." Stay strong... don't fall for their tricks, Micah

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of jemcgloin@verizon.net september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] The Earliest General Assemblies? Tuesday, October 04, 2011 9:36:32 PM

The Earliest General Assemblies? Self organizing communities with a diversity of tactics. :) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/science/04slime.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hpw

On 10/04/11, gail zawacki<witsendnj@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah, I am frightened, and so are a lot of other people who are doing the math without the "hope". We have passed several critical thresholds already. Check out my blog - http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/p/basicpremise.html for just the tropospheric ozone impact on plants...never mind climate change, and peak oil and the rare elements that make up our modern toys! It's really quite urgent that we re-write the paradigm of unlimited growth that our top-predator species has been addicted to. OWS is a great start towards a new way of thinking. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:47 PM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote: I hope your wrong about that, and that we can change our economics before it is to late. A general collapse of the ability of the planet to support us is the scariest thing I can think of.

On 10/04/11, gail zawacki<witsendnj@gmail.com> wrote: Environmental issues may be caused by economics - or, looked at another way, simple overpopulation, and a policy of endless growth. My point, which perhaps I didn't make clearly because I was being glib, is that any economic issues will be overwhelmed by Nature's solution to them, which is the four horsemen on the horizon. Nature bats last - and you can argue with physics, but you won't win. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:35 PM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote: I look at it as the environmental issues being caused by economics, especially the power of giant corporations to block environmental protections.

On 10/04/11, gail zawacki<witsendnj@gmail.com> wrote: I actually think any economic issues are wholly subsumed by environmental issues - you can't eat money having said that, perhaps it's time for a movie break (even if it is mainly economic)! http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupyeverywhere.html

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Gabriel Johnson <gabjoh2@gmail.com> wrote: Against the massive concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a select few.

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--glj On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Jon Good <therealjongood@gmail.com> wrote: We need a one-line SOMETHING. I don't care if it's a demand, a definition, a purpose, or whatever, but we need a snappy, inspiring, and easily communicable idea so people can quickly understand what we're about. "We are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms" is a good start, but it's kind of a tounge-twister. I firmly believe we can come up with something of a similar sentiment that so simple, so universal, so immediately true that even my idiot cousin in the Tea Party will hear it and say "wow, that makes way more sense than this Tea Party shit" and come join this movement. A simple idea that can spread like wildfire.

Solidarity, Jon

*Tea Partiers themselves are not always bad people, they're just confused, angry, and so eager to do SOMETHING that they're grabbing onto the toxic messages of hatred that Big Business is packaging as a populist movement. It's exactly the same way that the fascists were able to take power in the 1930s: by appealing to the worst instincts of people. If we can figure out how to inspire people's best instincts instead, they will come to us in droves.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho <ac3018@nyu.edu> wrote: Dear all;

Talking to other people at Liberty Square, there is strong reason to believe that a good picture of what this occupation is all about has been conceptualized. This is something that maybe everyone already recognized, intuitively or not. We are marching not necessarily for demands, but for value systems. We are marching for values. Values such as solidarity, emancipation, social justice, humanization, human rights, etc. In these values, that's where goals and demands fit, but above all - THIS IS WHY WE MARCH! I'd like to share this vision of the movement with the broader collective. In the process, will attempt to (1) ditch the "one line demand meme", hopefully for good; (2) talk about what we are organically building

and (3) subvert-appropriate the "one line demand" meme to a "one line purpose" meme. Bear strong with me. It is a fun ride. For all those who have been following the developments in Liberty Square, we can observe that the General Assembly became a convergence point for dissent social movements. Here we have feminists, queer groups, environmental groups, anti-war groups, permaculture/foodies, anti-racism, anti-police brutality, pro-immigrants, human right activists, disabled body people, labor unions, animal rights and even animals themselves (dogs and cats so far, :-). Not to mention a broad set of political orientations, such as marxists, anarchists, liberals, etc etc. All these individuals, organizations, and social movements recognized the legitimacy of the square to voice out their suppressed views to the public in hope of building empathy for change; they are all
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Network

- a Direct Participatory Democratic

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saying enough to representative democracy and are embracing direct participatory democracy as a better way to share grievances, build solidarity, and solve problems. Doing politics and life with people and not for people or despite people, which is the status quo of our politik so far. This is why we cannot, under any circumstances, narrow our increasingly broad-based movement (and thus POWER) to a one line demand. It is time to open possibilities, not close them. How can we leverage the power rallying at the General Assemblies? How can we make sure that they sew together the strenght of scattered social movements into an unstoppable force? Through the people's Direct Participatory Democratic Network we are building. Let's Imagine, as Lennon would put it. General Assemblies at the community level, at the city level, at state and national level, and finally at the global level, working with each other, in conversation with each other, building solidarity together and coordinating actions. All through physical means (offline) and virtual (online) means, maybe both. The image of this process is a cluster of nonhierarchical, layer-based, General Assemblies, federated and collaborating in the shape of concentric circles.

resolved at OccupyNYC cluster of General Assemblies. National issues such as renewable energybased economy discussed and solved by outer rim of General Assemblies: OccupyOregon, OccupyNorthDakota, OccupyMassachusetts, etc. Global issues such as Climate Change or Neoliberal Capitalism discussed and fought at the last outer layer (OccupyPlanet), in coordination with OccupySpain, OccupyGreece, OccupyBrazil, etc. Maybe we will soon realize that these old nation-state borders aren't even necessary anymore. And that is when we really make history. It is about a re-definition of borders, my dear friends, drawn by the people with the people. Again, we are creating a non-hierarchical, layered Direct Participatory

GA's would have the legitimacy to solve issues pertaining to their jurisdiction. So for instance, local level problems such as public school budget cuts would be

Democratic Network. A framework that even though layered, is still horizontal, much like ArcGIS
(cartography software) maps. These conversations would need to happen in a transparent, collaborative, secure environment through a open-source platform where voices on the squares are amplified. Virtual participants must have equal voice - some constituents are in hospital beds for example.

However, only the Direct Participatory Democratic Network won't make power bend. We need to invite power to change with the will of the people or clog the machine to make it bend, with people power, at precise tactical leverage points. For instance, and this is just an analogy to help clarify the point, (disclaimer for the cops out there hearing this), if we have solid internal intel from employees that blood diamonds are being invested and traded through Chase bank institutions at the Financial District, we build solidarity with social movements that oppose this absurdity and #OccupyChase to shut it down. If queer marriage is being blocked, we seek solidarity with social movements that are in favour and find tactical leverage points to turn the wheel towards legislation, policies, or whatever other demands those social movements have. The drafting of goals, demands or whetever should be primarily made by the social movements that are affected by the issue at hand. Who better to draft goals than the people directly affected? Who are we to draft demands for these social movements? We can though be in solidarity WITH them and not FOR them... until power yields. So again, we leverage in solidarity power converging at General
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Assemblies and march. Whoever is in empathy with a particular cause, goal or demand(s) participates in the smart tactical actions developed to push for them. To build this direct participatory democratic network, absolute free speech is crucial, where all voices, including right wing voices, are welcome. Will this mean co-option? Not necessarily. How? This movement is not apolitical. It is not a neutral movement, as Brecht would agree, there is nothing apolitical in human affairs. This movement was clearly born with a leftist revolutionary call. Rather than a single demand, we have a "one line purpose", under which all these dissent groups including proenvironment and animal rights groups) rally around: we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. Alas, a "one line purpose". Domestic violence or neoliberal capitalism's biases and exclusions; human destruction of the biosphere; all forms of personal or impersonal oppression perpetrated by individuals, groups, corporations, banks, corrupted structures. we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. This is it seems what we've been doing. The big picture. Where is radicalism, revolution? It is on direct, autonomous, inclusive democracy where voices are amplified and heard across miles, influencing memes and coordinating actions to emancipate the human race and the planet. A way to know we are successful? When power recognizes the legitimacy of the General Assembly constituency to speak for themselves and self-represent. THIS IS WHY WE MARCH. We march for values. Enough of Libert, Egalit, Fraternit. Rather, let's chant a new song: Humanization, Emancipation, Solidarity! Thoughts?

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of grimwomyn september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Theater Group would like to perform for Liberty on Monday Tuesday, October 04, 2011 9:53:21 PM

He just called into the hotline: Derek Smith 925.352.6879 http://built4collapse.wordpress.com/ dsmith@built4collapse.org On Monday calling to join the occupiers and want to perform!

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of MAd Hatter september17; labor-outreach-committee@googlegroups.com; ows_outreach@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Tomorrow Rallies, Marches and more Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:47:52 PM

Many thousands of people will be coming to Liberty Square, and Wall Street Tomorrow. Probably more than we have seen at any rally or march. 3pm Liberty Square Outreach has distributed thousands of flyers calling for people to come at square at 3pm. A facebook group indicates we can expect many...maybe a couple thousand. https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=172338712848959 4pmish We can march from our square to the MAIN EVENT.... 4:30 Foley Square Many, many community groups and Labor Union have invited folks to City Hall at 4:30pm, but it turns out the rally will be held at Foley Square. (just north of City Hall) https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 There will be several thousand here. They plan to march to our square and show solidarity, Probably arrive for a mass rally around 6:30pm

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Micah White september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] UPS store rumor Monday, October 03, 2011 3:11:58 PM

A woman called Adbusters saying that she was told by UPS that whenever someone picks up a package from a UPS store the recipient is charged $5 per package. Is this the case for the USP store in NY or was something worked out? She wants to send a care package but not if they will be charged. Do you know anything about this or know of an alternative address she could send her package? Is it true that you are being charged $5 per package? Micah

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of J.A. Myerson september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] URGENT: Does anyone have... Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:12:25 AM

...footage of police complicity as protesters entered the roadway? This looks like it will prove critical. JAM -J.A. Myerson http://www.jamyerson.com 347.688.0241

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Wall Street is War Street: Antiwar rally on Sat, Oct 15 moved to OWS Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:21:21 PM

It was originally going to be targeted at 3 embassies in Midtown, but the United National Antiwar Committee (UNAC) voted to move it downtown.

Wall Street Is War Street


On the 10th Anniversary of U.S. War in Afghanistan

Sat. OCT. 15,


Noon Rally at Wall Street
March to Occupy Wall Street Encampment
Liberty & Broadway

NO to Endless WARS!

the

10th

Oct. 15 is a day of nationally coordinated antiwar actions in cities across the U.S., anniversary of the massively destructive and criminal U.S. war on Afghanistan.

When the U.S. government began its attack on Afghanistan 10 years ago, President Bush called it a war on terror. It was followed by 8 years of U.S. war Iraq and now war in Libya and drone wars on Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Sudan under Pres. Obama. These are all wars for oil, resources and markets in the interests of corporate power. At the same time, the U.S. government is carrying out attacks on working people within the U.S., cutting back on health care and education while bailing out the Wall St. banks and insurance companies. Every time people call for money for social services, we are told there is no money, but the government always finds money for its wars. It is increasing repression on Muslims, on Black and Latino youth and on those who protest, as the FBI raids on anti-war demonstrators and the NYPD attacks on the peaceful Occupy Wall St. demonstrators show.
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Join us in a march to demand an end to U.S. wars in Afghanistan & Iraq, an end to U.S. aid to Israel, and an end to U.S. bombing and destruction in Libya and an end to the growing repression at home.

We NEED Jobs, Health Care & Education NOT War, Racism & Repression -------------------------------Followed by a 4 pm Solidarity Meeting with Carlos Montes, a speaker from the Victor Toro Defense Committee, immigrant rights and antiwar activists facing government attack and phony charges, and Cyrus McGoldrick from the NY Council on American Islamic Relations.

At Judson Memorial Church, Washington Square South & Thompson St., NYC Called by: United National Antiwar Coalition (UNAC), www.UNACpeace.org

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17 SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] When is the next direct action working group meeting? Sunday, October 02, 2011 2:25:35 PM

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of Mnica Lpez globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Everything okay at Liberty plaza? Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:11:31 PM

Prudence!! I'm back here!! want to see you!!!!!!!!! :) 2011/10/2 Prudence Katze <prudencekatze@gmail.com> Amazing job on live stream today! You guys got like 20,000 people watching (or more!) Going to try to heal up soon to join... in solidarity, Prudence

-Mnica Lpez Castilla Photo Journalist Telf.: (+34) 639.345.644 Madrid. Spain.

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of DMS globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] High profile scholars join #OccupyWallStreet Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:41:07 PM _DSC7353.jpg

I only have the police officer with baton in hand - davidscameracraft.blogspot.com On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Alvaro Corzo <acorzo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Ph.D Jeffrey Sachs Director of the Earth Institute, Columbia University joins #OccupyWallStreet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJE2VuKFSOY

I was on the front but i didn't get footage of the police officer using his baton on this guy, does anyone got it? A.

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globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com on behalf of Prudence Katze globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Photos of yesterdays arrests Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:38:41 PM

I see photos of Aeron and Josh from the media team - any word on them!? Are they out? On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:51 AM, DMS <davidscameracraft@gmail.com> wrote: http://davidscameracraft.blogspot.com/2011/10/700-arrested-during-occupy-wallstreet.html

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From: To: Subject: Date: september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of jemcgloin@verizon.net september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] 74% of Daily News readers say OccupyWallSt is "a great cause" Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:56:06 AM

Wow we must be doing something right. We need to demand that they all get on the street. Liking us is important but not enough. Yesterday, I was in Brooklyn and ended up at the Brooklyn side of the bridge, watching all the cops. A middle aged guy standing next to me said, its Occupy Wall St. I asked him what he thought. He said he supports it 100%, and that his daughter is so into that she shaved her head and wants to go sleep there. I told him its a great crowd and that she would be safe. He said I know we already checked it out. Then his daughter showed up and she was ready to bum rush the bridge, but mom took her home to watch the live feed. Then I take the train to Liberty and while 400 are being arrested the park is still packed! Everybody tries to play us down, but how many movements can spin off march after march after march, and still have more people at the end? On 10/02/11, Doug Singsen<dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/01/2011-10-01_dozens_arrested_at_occupy_wall_street_protest_brooklyn_bridge_shut_down_.html?r=topnews http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do? pollCmsUniqueId=20111001_occupying_wall_street&pollTitle=Occupying+Wall+Street&pollQuestion=Do+you+agree+with+the+protesters%3F&voteExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes%2C+it%27s+a+great+cause.%3BNo%2C+they+don%27t+know+what+they%27re+fighting+for.%3BI%27m+not+sure.&20111001_occupying_wall_street=1&vote=vote

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of MAd Hatter september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:48:11 PM

The OWS march to foley square is un permitted and is leaving between 3pm and 4pm. you shuld tweet about that too. On Tuesday, October 4, 2011, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: > It is too late to put this to GA attention, so I will tweet now on the > one condition that we make an effort to pass a resolution that in the > future we completely reject the entire idea of requiring a "permit" to > exercise Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of what possible, > conceivable use is a freedom of speech and assembly which we must ask > for? Asking for permissions implies legitimacy of a "no" answer. The > entire purpose of this freedom is to give us the ability to > unilaterally assert ourselves when our representatives fail to > represent us. The requirement of a permit is a direct nullification > of what is an unbridgeable right. > > On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed <conortomasr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the >> mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square >> so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest). >> >> https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 >> >> thanks! >> -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Ben september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:38:37 PM

Tweeted 2011/10/4 Conor Toms Reed <conortomasreed@gmail.com>: > Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the > mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square > so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest). > > https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 > > thanks! > -Conor > > >

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of jemcgloin@verizon.net september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] CNN announces big Occupy Wall St coming up Wed. Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:17:49 PM

CCN just did a live feed from Liberty, with some nice interviews, and they announced the big rally Wednesday!

On 10/02/11, Doug Singsen<dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: September 29, 2011 National Nurses United Statement in Support of the OccupyWallStreet.org actions in New York National Nurses United (NNU), the nations largest registered nurse labor union, representing 170,000 direct care RNs, stands in support of, and in solidarity with, the ongoing OcuppyWallStreet.org street protests and rallies. We applaud the commitment, savvy and sacrifice exhibited by the multitude of students, union members, clergy, and many others from all walks of life who have come together to loudly and clearly place the blame for the nations pain where it belongs. Wall Street caused the financial crisis and we share your demand that Wall Street pay us back. NNU nurses are leading the fight for a Main Street Contract for the American People. The Contract calls for meeting the basic needs of a civilized society and ensuring that all pay their fair share. Currently the wealthiest individuals and corporations do not pay that fair share. NNU is campaigning for a Financial Transaction Tax on Wall Street to help remedy that inequity. As nurses, our motto in this fight is simple. Heal America. Make Wall Street Pay!

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of shaista husain september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Declaration of the Occupation of New York City [official] Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:47:49 PM

Yes, sorry, i was quick to react, i apologize, yes, Declaration of Occupation--can be strengthened, while discrimination in the workplace is real, we can also show how race is central to the whole nature of capitalist hegemony in the world and not a by product or footnote but a global systemic problem.. I propose a working group on Economics. We can also bring basic human rights questions to the fore, not just domestic rights that have been usurped by Patriot Act and the liquidation of our Civil Liberties--but we can take the opportunity to fully implicate NATO/United Nations in our protest against wall street, implicate Washington DC directly in our demonstrations, so that the distance between Wall Street, Pentagon/ White House and the United Nations/NATO is unveiled and exposed and made clear to all, that we are addressing the heart of the matter, geopolitically, WE ARE FULLY aware of our situation on the map. As victims of wall street we must stand in solidarity with millions of victims abroad, our numbers increase exponentially when we speak from this position. We can elucidate on the points you made in the Declaration through a working group, gather more information, put forward these issues for further discussion and show the world that we can provide democratic solutions in respect of our position in this global system... That we are serious about taking back our economy from ruthless and stupid greedy warmongers and we can arise at intelligent solutions. Obama was hired to do this work but he does not work for us. We say food not bomb, education not more prisons. end of global system of racism. we have nothing to lose and a whole sustainable earth to gain. In international solidarity, Shaista On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree that those elements could be strengthened in that statement, but > what you're talking about is the Declaration of the Occupation, not the > Principles of Solidarity. The latter is set to be discussed at tomorrow > night's GA and I believe does contain points related to immigration and > imperialism. The text hasn't been circulated on the internet in draft form > in order to avoid it being spread all over before the GA approves it. And > the Declaration does have some mention of racism and imperialism, although I > agree they could be augmented and strengthened: > > They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based > on age, the color of ones skin, sex, gender identity and sexual > orientation. > > They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated > in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas. > > Doug S > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:40 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> With all due respect,

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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Reading the Principles of Solidarity, it is disturbing to me that the concern for the rights of animals is mentioned, but immigrants rights are forgotten, and what about those stuck in guantanamo without due process tortured worse than animals, these are human beings. What happened to Civil Liberties--if we are to address democracy at all, how about some basic liberal rights we have lost in the War on Terror. I am in need of more solidarity on the international front. Please if you can add this I would feel less disenfranchised from these principles of solidarity. I gleefully worked the food booth, I am so happy to be part of this movement, in that we can negate the logic of greed in our everyday practice, on the ground, we can show this city that we can provide free food through donation, this is a revolutionary principle and am so grateful that i can be part of this. This is a principle of solidarity that is learned through the occupation, that we are not "jobless frustrated youth with nothing to do" that we are willing to work, and work hard for "revolution." Please consider adding this to the the Principles of Solidarity with the poor, disenfranchised, with the destitute and the the victims of WALL STREET. but we must never forget that there are worse victims than us, the victims of the US gov't and its endless greed for power and war. Goldman Sachs and the bankers run wall street-; wall street runs our goverment, our goverment runs UN/NATO. There is no escaping this logic of power of a failed world system. The WORLD is WATCHING US--millions of victims of Wall Street everywhere in the world are expecting some good news from us, please let us STAND in solidarity with the overwhelming democratic and anti-austerity mobilizations from Tahrir to Wisconsin. It is imperative that we, NEW YORKERS, immigrants, make a clear call to stand in PRINCIPLED SOLIDARITY with global class war against war and against the capitalist class based here in WALL ST. for victims far worse than us in the global economy. Thank you and forgive the screaming, Shaista Husain

Shaista On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:20 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> wrote: > Congratulations on this document, has it been approved by GA, ratified > by consensus? > Please may i add some feedback: I was reading down the list and very > excited by this point here, however, can we please make a case about > the torture of political prisoners as well as animals... There is > pelican bay hunger strike currently ongoing, as well as Guantano Bay > torture waterboarding, etc as well secret detentions abroad (Bagram > etc in Afghanistan) can we please add human beings, the end of Patriot > Act and return of civil liberties in the same line as our concern for > animals. The War on Terror is a racist war that has dehumanized the > "enemy" most of whom do not even own a donkey. Please, considering the > recent Troy Davis case, it is imperative to defend the rights of > prisoners and denounce this unjust penal (domestic) and international

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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >

> military police state--even in the same line as with animal rights, if > need be. > Thank you, > Shaista Husain > > "They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel > treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices." > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Drew <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/ >> >> spread this far and wide! Short code: http://nycga.cc/?p=780 >> print for saturday >

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Declaration of the Occupation of New York City [official] Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:52:16 PM

I agree that those elements could be strengthened in that statement, but what you're talking about is the Declaration of the Occupation, not the Principles of Solidarity. The latter is set to be discussed at tomorrow night's GA and I believe does contain points related to immigration and imperialism. The text hasn't been circulated on the internet in draft form in order to avoid it being spread all over before the GA approves it. And the Declaration does have some mention of racism and imperialism, although I agree they could be augmented and strengthened: They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of ones skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas. Doug S On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:40 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> wrote: With all due respect, Reading the Principles of Solidarity, it is disturbing to me that the concern for the rights of animals is mentioned, but immigrants rights are forgotten, and what about those stuck in guantanamo without due process tortured worse than animals, these are human beings. What happened to Civil Liberties--if we are to address democracy at all, how about some basic liberal rights we have lost in the War on Terror. I am in need of more solidarity on the international front. Please if you can add this I would feel less disenfranchised from these principles of solidarity. I gleefully worked the food booth, I am so happy to be part of this movement, in that we can negate the logic of greed in our everyday practice, on the ground, we can show this city that we can provide free food through donation, this is a revolutionary principle and am so grateful that i can be part of this. This is a principle of solidarity that is learned through the occupation, that we are not "jobless frustrated youth with nothing to do" that we are willing to work, and work hard for "revolution." Please consider adding this to the the Principles of Solidarity with the poor, disenfranchised, with the destitute and the the victims of WALL STREET. but we must never forget that there are worse victims than us, the victims of the US gov't and its endless greed for power and war. Goldman Sachs and the bankers run wall street-; wall street runs our goverment, our goverment runs UN/NATO. There is no escaping this logic of power of a failed world system.
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The WORLD is WATCHING US--millions of victims of Wall Street everywhere in the world are expecting some good news from us, please let us STAND in solidarity with the overwhelming democratic and anti-austerity mobilizations from Tahrir to Wisconsin. It is imperative that we, NEW YORKERS, immigrants, make a clear call to stand in PRINCIPLED SOLIDARITY with global class war against war and against the capitalist class based here in WALL ST. for victims far worse than us in the global economy. Thank you and forgive the screaming, Shaista Husain

Shaista On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:20 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> wrote: > Congratulations on this document, has it been approved by GA, ratified > by consensus? > Please may i add some feedback: I was reading down the list and very > excited by this point here, however, can we please make a case about > the torture of political prisoners as well as animals... There is > pelican bay hunger strike currently ongoing, as well as Guantano Bay > torture waterboarding, etc as well secret detentions abroad (Bagram > etc in Afghanistan) can we please add human beings, the end of Patriot > Act and return of civil liberties in the same line as our concern for > animals. The War on Terror is a racist war that has dehumanized the > "enemy" most of whom do not even own a donkey. Please, considering the > recent Troy Davis case, it is imperative to defend the rights of > prisoners and denounce this unjust penal (domestic) and international > military police state--even in the same line as with animal rights, if > need be. > Thank you, > Shaista Husain > > "They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel > treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices." > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Drew <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote: >> http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/ >> >> spread this far and wide! Short code: http://nycga.cc/?p=780 >> print for saturday >

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of grimwomyn september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Direct Action committee is MIA?!? Monday, October 03, 2011 5:40:02 PM

yes-- I think that is why it has not been on the list, because they are wanting to have that conversation in person, off the internet for obvious reasons... On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: > There hasn't been any response to repeated questions on the listserv about > the next Direct Action committee meeting, and I can't find any info on it on > the nycga or occupywallst websites either. We have two pressing decisions > that need to be made: will we expand to another location, and what our plans > are on Wednesday when the march reaches OWS. If there's no word from Direct > Action soon, I think we should call a meeting of the committee tomorrow > night, because this stuff needs to be discussed in person asap. > > Doug >

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Gabriel Johnson september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the Horizon Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:02:06 PM

Against the massive concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a select few. --glj On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Jon Good <therealjongood@gmail.com> wrote: We need a one-line SOMETHING. I don't care if it's a demand, a definition, a purpose, or whatever, but we need a snappy, inspiring, and easily communicable idea so people can quickly understand what we're about. "We are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms" is a good start, but it's kind of a tounge-twister. I firmly believe we can come up with something of a similar sentiment that so simple, so universal, so immediately true that even my idiot cousin in the Tea Party will hear it and say "wow, that makes way more sense than this Tea Party shit" and come join this movement. A simple idea that can spread like wildfire. Solidarity, Jon *Tea Partiers themselves are not always bad people, they're just confused, angry, and so eager to do SOMETHING that they're grabbing onto the toxic messages of hatred that Big Business is packaging as a populist movement. It's exactly the same way that the fascists were able to take power in the 1930s: by appealing to the worst instincts of people. If we can figure out how to inspire people's best instincts instead, they will come to us in droves.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho <ac3018@nyu.edu> wrote: Dear all; Talking to other people at Liberty Square, there is strong reason to believe that a good picture of what this occupation is all about has been conceptualized. This is something that maybe everyone already recognized, intuitively or not. We are marching not necessarily for demands, but for value systems. We are marching for values. Values such as solidarity, emancipation, social justice, humanization, human rights, etc. In these values, that's where goals and demands fit, but above all - THIS IS WHY WE MARCH! I'd like to share this vision of the movement with the broader collective. In the
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process, will attempt to (1) ditch the "one line demand meme", hopefully for good; (2) talk about what we are organically building - a Direct Participatory Democratic Network and (3) subvert-appropriate the "one line demand" meme to a "one line purpose" meme. Bear strong with me. It is a fun ride. For all those who have been following the developments in Liberty Square, we can observe that the General Assembly became a convergence point for dissent social movements. Here we have feminists, queer groups, environmental groups, anti-war groups, permaculture/foodies, anti-racism, antipolice brutality, pro-immigrants, human right activists, disabled body people, labor unions, animal rights and even animals themselves (dogs and cats so far, :-). Not to mention a broad set of political orientations, such as marxists, anarchists, liberals, etc etc. All these individuals, organizations, and social movements recognized the legitimacy of the square to voice out their suppressed views to the public in hope of building empathy for change; they are all saying enough to representative democracy and are embracing direct participatory democracy as a better way to share grievances, build solidarity, and solve problems. Doing politics and life with people and not for people or despite people, which is the status quo of our politik so far. This is why we cannot, under any circumstances, narrow our increasingly broad-based movement (and thus POWER) to a one line demand. It is time to open possibilities, not close them. How can we leverage the power rallying at the General Assemblies? How can we make sure that they sew together the strenght of scattered social movements into an unstoppable force? Through the people's Direct Participatory Democratic Network we are building. Let's Imagine, as Lennon would put it. General Assemblies at the community level, at the city level, at state and national level, and finally at the global level, working with each other, in conversation with each other, building solidarity together and coordinating actions. All through physical means (offline) and virtual (online) means, maybe both. The image of this process is a cluster of non-hierarchical, layer-based, General Assemblies, federated and collaborating in the shape of concentric circles.

GA's would have the legitimacy to solve issues pertaining to their jurisdiction. So for instance, local level problems such as public school budget cuts would be resolved at OccupyNYC cluster of General Assemblies. National issues such as renewable energy-based economy discussed and solved by outer rim of General Assemblies: OccupyOregon, OccupyNorthDakota, OccupyMassachusetts, etc. Global issues such as Climate Change or Neoliberal Capitalism discussed and fought at the last outer layer (OccupyPlanet), in coordination with OccupySpain, OccupyGreece, OccupyBrazil, etc.
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Maybe we will soon realize that these old nation-state borders aren't even necessary anymore. And that is when we really make history. It is about a redefinition of borders, my dear friends, drawn by the people with the people. Again, we are creating a non-hierarchical, layered Direct Participatory Democratic Network. A framework that even though layered, is still horizontal, much like ArcGIS (cartography software) maps. These conversations would need to happen in a transparent, collaborative, secure environment through a open-source platform where voices on the squares are amplified. Virtual participants must have equal voice some constituents are in hospital beds for example. However, only the Direct Participatory Democratic Network won't make power bend. We need to invite power to change with the will of the people or clog the machine to make it bend, with people power, at precise tactical leverage points. For instance, and this is just an analogy to help clarify the point, (disclaimer for the cops out there hearing this), if we have solid internal intel from employees that blood diamonds are being invested and traded through Chase bank institutions at the Financial District, we build solidarity with social movements that oppose this absurdity and #OccupyChase to shut it down. If queer marriage is being blocked, we seek solidarity with social movements that are in favour and find tactical leverage points to turn the wheel towards legislation, policies, or whatever other demands those social movements have. The drafting of goals, demands or whetever should be primarily made by the social movements that are affected by the issue at hand. Who better to draft goals than the people directly affected? Who are we to draft demands for these social movements? We can though be in solidarity WITH them and not FOR them... until power yields. So again, we leverage in solidarity power converging at General Assemblies and march. Whoever is in empathy with a particular cause, goal or demand(s) participates in the smart tactical actions developed to push for them. To build this direct participatory democratic network, absolute free speech is crucial, where all voices, including right wing voices, are welcome. Will this mean co-option? Not necessarily. How? This movement is not apolitical. It is not a neutral movement, as Brecht would agree, there is nothing apolitical in human affairs. This movement was clearly born with a leftist revolutionary call. Rather than a single demand, we have a "one line purpose", under which all these dissent groups including proenvironment and animal rights groups) rally around: we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. Alas, a "one line purpose". Domestic violence or neoliberal capitalism's biases and exclusions; human destruction of the biosphere; all forms of personal or impersonal oppression perpetrated by individuals, groups, corporations, banks, corrupted structures. we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms.

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This is it seems what we've been doing. The big picture. Where is radicalism, revolution? It is on direct, autonomous, inclusive democracy where voices are amplified and heard across miles, influencing memes and coordinating actions to emancipate the human race and the planet. A way to know we are successful? When power recognizes the legitimacy of the General Assembly constituency to speak for themselves and self-represent. THIS IS WHY WE MARCH. We march for values. Enough of Libert, Egalit, Fraternit. Rather, let's chant a new song: Humanization, Emancipation, Solidarity! Thoughts?

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of gail zawacki september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the Horizon Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:20:43 PM

I actually think any economic issues are wholly subsumed by environmental issues you can't eat money - having said that, perhaps it's time for a movie break (even if it is mainly economic)! http://witsendnj.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupyeverywhere.html

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Gabriel Johnson <gabjoh2@gmail.com> wrote: Against the massive concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a select few. --glj On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Jon Good <therealjongood@gmail.com> wrote: We need a one-line SOMETHING. I don't care if it's a demand, a definition, a purpose, or whatever, but we need a snappy, inspiring, and easily communicable idea so people can quickly understand what we're about. "We are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms" is a good start, but it's kind of a tounge-twister. I firmly believe we can come up with something of a similar sentiment that so simple, so universal, so immediately true that even my idiot cousin in the Tea Party will hear it and say "wow, that makes way more sense than this Tea Party shit" and come join this movement. A simple idea that can spread like wildfire. Solidarity, Jon *Tea Partiers themselves are not always bad people, they're just confused, angry, and so eager to do SOMETHING that they're grabbing onto the toxic messages of hatred that Big Business is packaging as a populist movement. It's exactly the same way that the fascists were able to take power in the 1930s: by appealing to the worst instincts of people. If we can figure out how to inspire people's best instincts instead, they will come to us in droves.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho <ac3018@nyu.edu> wrote: Dear all;

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Talking to other people at Liberty Square, there is strong reason to believe that a good picture of what this occupation is all about has been conceptualized. This is something that maybe everyone already recognized, intuitively or not. We are marching not necessarily for demands, but for value systems. We are marching for values. Values such as solidarity, emancipation, social justice, humanization, human rights, etc. In these values, that's where goals and demands fit, but above all - THIS IS WHY WE MARCH! I'd like to share this vision of the movement with the broader collective. In the process, will attempt to (1) ditch the "one line demand meme", hopefully for good; (2) talk about what we are organically building - a Direct Participatory Democratic Network and (3) subvert-appropriate the "one line demand" meme to a "one line purpose" meme. Bear strong with me. It is a fun ride. For all those who have been following the developments in Liberty Square, we can observe that the General Assembly became a convergence point for dissent social movements. Here we have feminists, queer groups, environmental groups, anti-war groups, permaculture/foodies, anti-racism, anti-police brutality, pro-immigrants, human right activists, disabled body people, labor unions, animal rights and even animals themselves (dogs and cats so far, :-). Not to mention a broad set of political orientations, such as marxists, anarchists, liberals, etc etc. All these individuals, organizations, and social movements recognized the legitimacy of the square to voice out their suppressed views to the public in hope of building empathy for change; they are all saying enough to representative democracy and are embracing direct participatory democracy as a better way to share grievances, build solidarity, and solve problems. Doing politics and life with people and not for people or despite people, which is the status quo of our politik so far. This is why we cannot, under any circumstances, narrow our increasingly broad-based movement (and thus POWER) to a one line demand. It is time to open possibilities, not close them. How can we leverage the power rallying at the General Assemblies? How can we make sure that they sew together the strenght of scattered social movements into an unstoppable force? Through the people's Direct Participatory Democratic Network we are building. Let's Imagine, as Lennon would put it. General Assemblies at the community level, at the city level, at state and national level, and finally at the global level, working with each other, in conversation with each other, building solidarity together and coordinating actions. All through physical means (offline) and virtual (online) means, maybe both. The image of this process is a cluster of non-hierarchical, layer-based, General Assemblies, federated and collaborating in the shape of concentric circles.

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

GA's would have the legitimacy to solve issues pertaining to their jurisdiction. So for instance, local level problems such as public school budget cuts would be resolved at OccupyNYC cluster of General Assemblies. National issues such as renewable energy-based economy discussed and solved by outer rim of General Assemblies: OccupyOregon, OccupyNorthDakota, OccupyMassachusetts, etc. Global issues such as Climate Change or Neoliberal Capitalism discussed and fought at the last outer layer (OccupyPlanet), in coordination with OccupySpain, OccupyGreece, OccupyBrazil, etc. Maybe we will soon realize that these old nation-state borders aren't even necessary anymore. And that is when we really make history. It is about a redefinition of borders, my dear friends, drawn by the people with the people. Again, we are creating a non-hierarchical, layered Direct Participatory Democratic Network. A framework that even though layered, is still horizontal, much like ArcGIS (cartography software) maps. These conversations would need to happen in a transparent, collaborative, secure environment through a open-source platform where voices on the squares are amplified. Virtual participants must have equal voice - some constituents are in hospital beds for example. However, only the Direct Participatory Democratic Network won't make power bend. We need to invite power to change with the will of the people or clog the machine to make it bend, with people power, at precise tactical leverage points. For instance, and this is just an analogy to help clarify the point, (disclaimer for the cops out there hearing this), if we have solid internal intel from employees that blood diamonds are being invested and traded through Chase bank institutions at the Financial District, we build solidarity with social movements that oppose this absurdity and #OccupyChase to shut it down. If queer marriage is being blocked, we seek solidarity with social movements that are in favour and find tactical leverage points to turn the wheel towards legislation, policies, or whatever other demands those social movements have. The drafting of goals, demands or whetever should be primarily made by the social movements that are affected by the issue at hand. Who better to draft goals than the people directly affected? Who are we to draft demands for these social movements? We can though be in solidarity WITH them and not FOR them... until power yields. So again, we leverage in solidarity power converging at General Assemblies and march. Whoever is in empathy with a particular cause, goal or demand(s) participates in the smart tactical actions developed to push for them. To build this direct participatory democratic network, absolute free speech is crucial, where all voices, including right wing voices, are welcome. Will this mean co-option? Not necessarily. How? This movement is not apolitical. It is not a neutral movement, as Brecht would agree, there is nothing apolitical in human affairs. This movement was clearly born with a leftist revolutionary call. Rather than a single demand, we have a
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

"one line purpose", under which all these dissent groups including proenvironment and animal rights groups) rally around: we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. Alas, a "one line purpose". Domestic violence or neoliberal capitalism's biases and exclusions; human destruction of the biosphere; all forms of personal or impersonal oppression perpetrated by individuals, groups, corporations, banks, corrupted structures. we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. This is it seems what we've been doing. The big picture. Where is radicalism, revolution? It is on direct, autonomous, inclusive democracy where voices are amplified and heard across miles, influencing memes and coordinating actions to emancipate the human race and the planet. A way to know we are successful? When power recognizes the legitimacy of the General Assembly constituency to speak for themselves and self-represent. THIS IS WHY WE MARCH. We march for values. Enough of Libert, Egalit, Fraternit. Rather, let's chant a new song: Humanization, Emancipation, Solidarity! Thoughts?

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Ben september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the Horizon Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:03:36 PM

Very interesting and familiar ideas.These aren't new ideas at all though! They've been around for about a hundred and fifty years under the name of anarchism. This is very similar to how an anarchist society would function on a mass scale. You've effectively reinterpreted anarchist ideology into this movement without knowing it. :P Perhaps what we're essentially doing is building a new society within the shell of the old which is a valuable tactic and we should get some type of slogan behind it. Building a new society within is really the core of what we are and we need to express this more elegantly. I think our one demand should be something like "People all over the world organize!" to help further this idea. Obviously we shouldn't call this an anarchist movement even though it essentially is. Participatory direct democracy will work perhaps. That's what we'll call our system. We have a very unique situation and we shouldn't water it down. People of all political ideology seems to be attracted to this system which shows that it breaks the left and right dichotomy. Those are my thoughts.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of gail zawacki september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the Horizon Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:22:51 PM

Kevin Zeese on the "one demand" issue: http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/october2011-orgs-kevin-zeese-on-hisgroups-affinity-with-occupy-wall-street On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Ben <bf0189@gmail.com> wrote: Very interesting and familiar ideas.These aren't new ideas at all though! They've been around for about a hundred and fifty years under the name of anarchism. This is very similar to how an anarchist society would function on a mass scale. You've effectively reinterpreted anarchist ideology into this movement without knowing it. :P Perhaps what we're essentially doing is building a new society within the shell of the old which is a valuable tactic and we should get some type of slogan behind it. Building a new society within is really the core of what we are and we need to express this more elegantly. I think our one demand should be something like "People all over the world organize!" to help further this idea. Obviously we shouldn't call this an anarchist movement even though it essentially is. Participatory direct democracy will work perhaps. That's what we'll call our system. We have a very unique situation and we shouldn't water it down. People of all political ideology seems to be attracted to this system which shows that it breaks the left and right dichotomy. Those are my thoughts.

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Jon Good september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in the Horizon Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:32:10 PM

We need a one-line SOMETHING. I don't care if it's a demand, a definition, a purpose, or whatever, but we need a snappy, inspiring, and easily communicable idea so people can quickly understand what we're about. "We are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms" is a good start, but it's kind of a toungetwister. I firmly believe we can come up with something of a similar sentiment that so simple, so universal, so immediately true that even my idiot cousin in the Tea Party will hear it and say "wow, that makes way more sense than this Tea Party shit" and come join this movement. A simple idea that can spread like wildfire. Solidarity, Jon *Tea Partiers themselves are not always bad people, they're just confused, angry, and so eager to do SOMETHING that they're grabbing onto the toxic messages of hatred that Big Business is packaging as a populist movement. It's exactly the same way that the fascists were able to take power in the 1930s: by appealing to the worst instincts of people. If we can figure out how to inspire people's best instincts instead, they will come to us in droves.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho <ac3018@nyu.edu> wrote: Dear all; Talking to other people at Liberty Square, there is strong reason to believe that a good picture of what this occupation is all about has been conceptualized. This is something that maybe everyone already recognized, intuitively or not. We are marching not necessarily for demands, but for value systems. We are marching for values. Values such as solidarity, emancipation, social justice, humanization, human rights, etc. In these values, that's where goals and demands fit, but above all - THIS IS WHY WE MARCH! I'd like to share this vision of the movement with the broader collective. In the process, will attempt to (1) ditch the "one line demand meme", hopefully for good; (2) talk about what we are organically building - a Direct Participatory Democratic Network and (3) subvert-appropriate the "one line demand" meme to a "one line purpose"
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

meme. Bear strong with me. It is a fun ride. For all those who have been following the developments in Liberty Square, we can observe that the General Assembly became a convergence point for dissent social movements. Here we have feminists, queer groups, environmental groups, antiwar groups, permaculture/foodies, anti-racism, anti-police brutality, proimmigrants, human right activists, disabled body people, labor unions, animal rights and even animals themselves (dogs and cats so far, :-). Not to mention a broad set of political orientations, such as marxists, anarchists, liberals, etc etc. All these individuals, organizations, and social movements recognized the legitimacy of the square to voice out their suppressed views to the public in hope of building empathy for change; they are all saying enough to representative democracy and are embracing direct participatory democracy as a better way to share grievances, build solidarity, and solve problems. Doing politics and life with people and not for people or despite people, which is the status quo of our politik so far. This is why we cannot, under any circumstances, narrow our increasingly broad-based movement (and thus POWER) to a one line demand. It is time to open possibilities, not close them. How can we leverage the power rallying at the General Assemblies? How can we make sure that they sew together the strenght of scattered social movements into an unstoppable force? Through the people's Direct Participatory Democratic Network we are building. Let's Imagine, as Lennon would put it. General Assemblies at the community level, at the city level, at state and national level, and finally at the global level, working with each other, in conversation with each other, building solidarity together and coordinating actions. All through physical means (offline) and virtual (online) means, maybe both. The image of this process is a cluster of non-hierarchical, layer-based, General Assemblies, federated and collaborating in the shape of concentric circles.

GA's would have the legitimacy to solve issues pertaining to their jurisdiction. So for instance, local level problems such as public school budget cuts would be resolved at OccupyNYC cluster of General Assemblies. National issues such as renewable energy-based economy discussed and solved by outer rim of General Assemblies: OccupyOregon, OccupyNorthDakota, OccupyMassachusetts, etc. Global issues such as Climate Change or Neoliberal Capitalism discussed and fought at the last outer layer (OccupyPlanet), in coordination with OccupySpain, OccupyGreece, OccupyBrazil, etc. Maybe we will soon realize that these old nation-state borders aren't even necessary anymore. And that is when we really make history. It is about a redefinition of borders, my dear friends, drawn by the people with the people. Again, we are creating a non-hierarchical, layered Direct Participatory Democratic Network. A framework that even though layered, is still horizontal, much like ArcGIS (cartography software) maps. These conversations would need to happen in a transparent, collaborative, secure
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

environment through a open-source platform where voices on the squares are amplified. Virtual participants must have equal voice - some constituents are in hospital beds for example. However, only the Direct Participatory Democratic Network won't make power bend. We need to invite power to change with the will of the people or clog the machine to make it bend, with people power, at precise tactical leverage points. For instance, and this is just an analogy to help clarify the point, (disclaimer for the cops out there hearing this), if we have solid internal intel from employees that blood diamonds are being invested and traded through Chase bank institutions at the Financial District, we build solidarity with social movements that oppose this absurdity and #OccupyChase to shut it down. If queer marriage is being blocked, we seek solidarity with social movements that are in favour and find tactical leverage points to turn the wheel towards legislation, policies, or whatever other demands those social movements have. The drafting of goals, demands or whetever should be primarily made by the social movements that are affected by the issue at hand. Who better to draft goals than the people directly affected? Who are we to draft demands for these social movements? We can though be in solidarity WITH them and not FOR them... until power yields. So again, we leverage in solidarity power converging at General Assemblies and march. Whoever is in empathy with a particular cause, goal or demand(s) participates in the smart tactical actions developed to push for them. To build this direct participatory democratic network, absolute free speech is crucial, where all voices, including right wing voices, are welcome. Will this mean co-option? Not necessarily. How? This movement is not apolitical. It is not a neutral movement, as Brecht would agree, there is nothing apolitical in human affairs. This movement was clearly born with a leftist revolutionary call. Rather than a single demand, we have a "one line purpose", under which all these dissent groups including pro-environment and animal rights groups) rally around: we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. Alas, a "one line purpose". Domestic violence or neoliberal capitalism's biases and exclusions; human destruction of the biosphere; all forms of personal or impersonal oppression perpetrated by individuals, groups, corporations, banks, corrupted structures. we are a human struggle against oppression in all its forms. This is it seems what we've been doing. The big picture. Where is radicalism, revolution? It is on direct, autonomous, inclusive democracy where voices are amplified and heard across miles, influencing memes and coordinating actions to emancipate the human race and the planet. A way to know we are successful? When power recognizes the legitimacy of the General Assembly constituency to speak for themselves and self-represent. THIS IS WHY WE MARCH. We march for values. Enough of Libert, Egalit, Fraternit. Rather, let's chant a new song: Humanization, Emancipation, Solidarity!
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Thoughts?

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Amin Husain september17@googlegroups.com Drew Hornbein SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] For Internet Team: Two events to be posted on occupywallst.org Monday, October 03, 2011 6:15:13 PM

I suggest Speaking with Drew whose admin of site re this problem. On Oct 3, 2011, at 6:09 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Amin, i can't post the meeting call for new group on ECONOMICS on > the website calendar for Tuesday 3pm > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote: >> These, and all events/calendar items, should also be posted on www.nycga.net, as that site is getting much more hits now, and it's content is a resource to other occupations. >> >> On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Marina Sitrin <marina.sitrin@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Also - the meetings with the lawyers. >>> >>> For People Arrested: >>> Can you post Sunday at 2pm at the National Lawyers Guild Office >>> 132 Nassau St Suite 922 (Behind J & R) near city hall park. >>> >>> Call the NLG number for questions >>> >>> Marina >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Luis Moreno-Caballud >>> <morenocaballud@yahoo.es> wrote: >>>> Yes, Matt, it would be great if you have the time to make sure the calendars at NYCGA.net and occupywallst.org are updated with the Open Forum events that happen everyday at 6. Right now they don't appear... >>>> >>>> On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Matthew Bralow wrote: >>>> >>>>> in my opinion, we need a DEDICATED group that works with planning, >>>>> coordinating, and uploading scheduling and calendar of events? is >>>>> there a group for this? also we should also have a DEDICATED e-mail >>>>> address or listserve specifically for this need for event >>>>> submissions/calendar additions, etc. if this does not exist, i can >>>>> create one. let me know.. matt 917-607-0962 >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, NicolasMoselleAllen >>>>> <allenicolas@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> gotcha! the two brecht events: >>>>>> >>>>>> September 29th, 2011 5:30 PM >>>>>> Peoples' University at #OccupyWallStreet >>>>>> At Liberty Plaza (Zuccotti Park) Corner of Liberty & Broadway >>>>>> From Madrid to New York to.... >>>>>> A History of Occupations >>>>>> Discussion with Gerardo Renique >>>>>> >>>>>> Occupy Wall Street continues to capture the imagination of millions >>>>>> across the globe. Join us for a series "People's University at Occupy >>>>>> Walls Street" as we connect the dots, build bridges and move forward

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>>>>>> for a world free of capitalism and war! >>>>>> >>>>>> Gerardo Renique recently returned from Madrid, Spain and is a professor at CUNY. >>>>>> >>>>>> PM October 4th, 2011 5:30 PM >>>>>> People's University at #OccupyWallStreet >>>>>> @ Liberty Plaza (Zuccotti Park) Corner of Liberty and Broadway >>>>>> Economic Update with Rick Wolff >>>>>> >>>>>> Occupy Wall Street continues to capture the imagination of millions >>>>>> across the globe. Join us for a series "People's University at Occupy >>>>>> Walls Street" as we connect the dots, build bridges and move forward >>>>>> for a world free of capitalism and war! >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard Wolff will present a special "Economic Update" at Freedom >>>>>> Square. Professor Wolff is an American economist, well-known for his >>>>>> work on Marxian economics, economic methodology and class analysis. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, MAd Hatter <progressivechange@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE SQUARE TO DO BOTH IF WE HAVE TO... >>>>>>> SEN ME DETAILS AND i WILL CREATE FACEBOOK GROUPS FOR THESE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, NicolasMoselleAllen >>>>>>> <allenicolas@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> hey michael, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think we can push the Gerardo Renique talk back to 5. hopefully that >>>>>>>> helps. also, get in touch with justine justine@occupywallst.org to >>>>>>>> have your event published. i passed your info along to her, but you >>>>>>>> can always send her a blurb. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nico >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Michael Strom >>>>>>>> <michael.g.strom@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> How long do you think the event will go for on Thursday? I've been trying to >>>>>>>>> put together a discussion with Organizing for Occupation (O4O; o4onyc.org), >>>>>>>>> a group I organize with. O4O is a NYC grassroots organization working to >>>>>>>>> actualize the human right to housing through direct action, and one of their >>>>>>>>> lead organizers is planning to come to Liberty Plaza on Thursday (9/29) at 6 >>>>>>>>> to discuss the housing crisis, O4O's work, and what we can do to unite and >>>>>>>>> support our struggles. O4O members fighting foreclosures and/or homelessness >>>>>>>>> will also be there to lend their voices. The hopeful goal of the event is to >>>>>>>>> build relationships between O4O and Occupy Wall Street in order to put on >>>>>>>>> several anti-foreclosure actions next week. >>>>>>>>> Thursday at 6 seems to be the only possible time this can happen (maybe a >>>>>>>>> little later in the evening if necessary). And both events seem important. >>>>>>>>> As I wrote this morning in response to the 99% Open Forum, I think working >>>>>>>>> with O4O would be beneficial and strategic on a number of levels (help us >>>>>>>>> build relationships with community orgs, put our movement in deeper >>>>>>>>> conversation with lived struggles of this city, help build momentum through >>>>>>>>> strategic action, etc), and I rather not have two simultaneous events take >>>>>>>>> away from each others' attendance. >>>>>>>>> How can we work this out? >>>>>>>>> And is there a way "officially" get this on the schedule? I can write up a >>>>>>>>> blurb for it ASAP.

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>>>>>>>>> Peace and Purpose, >>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ->>> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che >>

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of shaista husain september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] For Internet Team: Two events to be posted on occupywallst.org Monday, October 03, 2011 6:10:01 PM

Dear Amin, i can't post the meeting call for new group on ECONOMICS on the website calendar for Tuesday 3pm On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote: > These, and all events/calendar items, should also be posted on www.nycga.net, as that site is getting much more hits now, and it's content is a resource to other occupations. > > On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Marina Sitrin <marina.sitrin@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Also - the meetings with the lawyers. >> >> For People Arrested: >> Can you post Sunday at 2pm at the National Lawyers Guild Office >> 132 Nassau St Suite 922 (Behind J & R) near city hall park. >> >> Call the NLG number for questions >> >> Marina >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Luis Moreno-Caballud >> <morenocaballud@yahoo.es> wrote: >>> Yes, Matt, it would be great if you have the time to make sure the calendars at NYCGA.net and occupywallst.org are updated with the Open Forum events that happen everyday at 6. Right now they don't appear... >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Matthew Bralow wrote: >>> >>>> in my opinion, we need a DEDICATED group that works with planning, >>>> coordinating, and uploading scheduling and calendar of events? is >>>> there a group for this? also we should also have a DEDICATED e-mail >>>> address or listserve specifically for this need for event >>>> submissions/calendar additions, etc. if this does not exist, i can >>>> create one. let me know.. matt 917-607-0962 >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, NicolasMoselleAllen >>>> <allenicolas@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> gotcha! the two brecht events: >>>>> >>>>> September 29th, 2011 5:30 PM >>>>> Peoples' University at #OccupyWallStreet >>>>> At Liberty Plaza (Zuccotti Park) Corner of Liberty & Broadway >>>>> From Madrid to New York to.... >>>>> A History of Occupations >>>>> Discussion with Gerardo Renique >>>>> >>>>> Occupy Wall Street continues to capture the imagination of millions >>>>> across the globe. Join us for a series "People's University at Occupy >>>>> Walls Street" as we connect the dots, build bridges and move forward >>>>> for a world free of capitalism and war! >>>>> >>>>> Gerardo Renique recently returned from Madrid, Spain and is a professor at CUNY. >>>>> >>>>> PM October 4th, 2011 5:30 PM

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>>>>> People's University at #OccupyWallStreet >>>>> @ Liberty Plaza (Zuccotti Park) Corner of Liberty and Broadway >>>>> Economic Update with Rick Wolff >>>>> >>>>> Occupy Wall Street continues to capture the imagination of millions >>>>> across the globe. Join us for a series "People's University at Occupy >>>>> Walls Street" as we connect the dots, build bridges and move forward >>>>> for a world free of capitalism and war! >>>>> >>>>> Richard Wolff will present a special "Economic Update" at Freedom >>>>> Square. Professor Wolff is an American economist, well-known for his >>>>> work on Marxian economics, economic methodology and class analysis. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, MAd Hatter <progressivechange@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE SQUARE TO DO BOTH IF WE HAVE TO... >>>>>> SEN ME DETAILS AND i WILL CREATE FACEBOOK GROUPS FOR THESE >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM, NicolasMoselleAllen >>>>>> <allenicolas@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> hey michael, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we can push the Gerardo Renique talk back to 5. hopefully that >>>>>>> helps. also, get in touch with justine justine@occupywallst.org to >>>>>>> have your event published. i passed your info along to her, but you >>>>>>> can always send her a blurb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nico >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Michael Strom >>>>>>> <michael.g.strom@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> How long do you think the event will go for on Thursday? I've been trying to >>>>>>>> put together a discussion with Organizing for Occupation (O4O; o4onyc.org), >>>>>>>> a group I organize with. O4O is a NYC grassroots organization working to >>>>>>>> actualize the human right to housing through direct action, and one of their >>>>>>>> lead organizers is planning to come to Liberty Plaza on Thursday (9/29) at 6 >>>>>>>> to discuss the housing crisis, O4O's work, and what we can do to unite and >>>>>>>> support our struggles. O4O members fighting foreclosures and/or homelessness >>>>>>>> will also be there to lend their voices. The hopeful goal of the event is to >>>>>>>> build relationships between O4O and Occupy Wall Street in order to put on >>>>>>>> several anti-foreclosure actions next week. >>>>>>>> Thursday at 6 seems to be the only possible time this can happen (maybe a >>>>>>>> little later in the evening if necessary). And both events seem important. >>>>>>>> As I wrote this morning in response to the 99% Open Forum, I think working >>>>>>>> with O4O would be beneficial and strategic on a number of levels (help us >>>>>>>> build relationships with community orgs, put our movement in deeper >>>>>>>> conversation with lived struggles of this city, help build momentum through >>>>>>>> strategic action, etc), and I rather not have two simultaneous events take >>>>>>>> away from each others' attendance. >>>>>>>> How can we work this out? >>>>>>>> And is there a way "officially" get this on the schedule? I can write up a >>>>>>>> blurb for it ASAP. >>>>>>>> Peace and Purpose, >>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>

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>>>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ->> Seamos realistas, hagamos lo imposible ~ che >

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Will Gauss september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Fwd: [NYCGA Internet] Important Info!!! *PLEASE LOOK@LINK* Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:01:00 AM

Wait, I'm an actor in a drill? Dammit they owe me my wages from those 6 hours in the van I want hazard pay! I'm almost tempted to go on there and introduce myself calmly and peacefully. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:33 AM, "J.A. Myerson" <jesse.myerson@gmail.com> wrote: It's amazing. PROOF we don't exist! JAM On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote: the person that made this is such an idiot On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Drew Hornbein <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote: An examination of the police radio from the BK bridge march. ---------- Forwarded message ---------Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:18 AM Subject: [NYCGA Internet] Important Info!!! *PLEASE LOOK@LINK* To: internet_working_group@googlegroups.com http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1662412/pg1 I found this on glp about 10/1/2011! Thank's

-J.A. Myerson http://www.jamyerson.com 347.688.0241

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of shaista husain september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Guardian asks "Were you arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge?" Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:31:00 PM

People who were fined should adamantly denounce this NYPD stunt to not only get money from JPMorgan Chase in the millions, but handing out individual fines like this should be boycotted somehow, i find it really hard to swallow that our comrades will have to pay these fines, or that we will have to fundraise tens of thousands for this NYPD robbery.! On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Gary Roland <opesr.nyc@gmail.com> wrote: > They are trying to gather more information and are looking for more > accounts. If you were on the bridge and would like to contribute visit the > following > link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/02/occupy-wall-street-brooklyn-bridge-arrests? newsfeed=true and > click on the email or twitter links. > Solidarity in Struggle, > ~GARY

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of shaista husain september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow. Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:01:55 PM

We are Occupy Wall Street, moving to Washington Square Park will make de-politicise this occupation its symbolic and direct action! We are gaining momentum because it is in Wall Street. If we do take this anywhere else in NYC, it should be politically strategic change, like in front of the United Nations. I am sorry i will stand with the 99% wherever we decide to go, but we should think strategically, even if we are larger in numbers, by moving further from the heart of the problem and wall street, We will lose political clout. We need a place that send a resounding message to the rest of the world. United Nations is a good place to occupy to get that message across. How? not sure, but there is a lot of space in front of the UN, not as lovely as washington square but politically more potent. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: > Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from > what I see the occupation there is stable. Though, I am sure that > they are looking for any excuse to clear the park. One such excuse > could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding. > These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD. > > In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park, > preferably a larger one. We should absolutely continue to use Liberty > Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will > not house the entire 99%. I propose that we explore how we might > assume control of Washington Square Park. As public land, there is no > excuse for eviction that we are trespassing. A physically large > presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because > they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person > who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a > bicycle to something. There are arches which we can triumphantly > march through and return through. The open aerial coverage presents > multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a > sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt. > > This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration. I > suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting. People > will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people. So, the > physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants > naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person > stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not. > > I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately, > only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have > significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay > by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty > Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like > to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington > Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Gabriel Johnson september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow. Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:14:17 PM

Good, because I have a couple more good ideas. (this is one of the better problems our protest could have.) --glj On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: We should only discuss future locations in person. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:01 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> wrote: We are Occupy Wall Street, moving to Washington Square Park will make de-politicise this occupation its symbolic and direct action! We are gaining momentum because it is in Wall Street. If we do take this anywhere else in NYC, it should be politically strategic change, like in front of the United Nations. I am sorry i will stand with the 99% wherever we decide to go, but we should think strategically, even if we are larger in numbers, by moving further from the heart of the problem and wall street, We will lose political clout. We need a place that send a resounding message to the rest of the world. United Nations is a good place to occupy to get that message across. How? not sure, but there is a lot of space in front of the UN, not as lovely as washington square but politically more potent. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: > Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from > what I see the occupation there is stable. Though, I am sure that > they are looking for any excuse to clear the park. One such excuse > could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding. > These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD. > > In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park, > preferably a larger one. We should absolutely continue to use Liberty > Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will > not house the entire 99%. I propose that we explore how we might > assume control of Washington Square Park. As public land, there is no > excuse for eviction that we are trespassing. A physically large > presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because > they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person > who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a > bicycle to something. There are arches which we can triumphantly > march through and return through. The open aerial coverage presents > multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a > sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt. > > This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration. I > suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting. People > will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people. So, the
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

> > > > > > > > > > >

physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not. I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately, only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of grimwomyn september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow. Monday, October 03, 2011 5:11:51 PM

actually there are many many privately owned public spaces in NYC that can be used to gather in, no need to become antagonistic with the city when there are spaces that afford the same opportunities that Liberty Park has: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/priv/priv.shtml I would love to move into the upper east side (hahahahahaha) On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Will Gauss <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: > In my opinion, the First Amendment trumps city law. This is exactly the > kind of chilling law which the First Amendment's assembly and speech > protections is designed to prevent. > > Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM, "Jackie DiSalvo" <jdisalvo@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > > It is illegal for over 20 people to meet in a city park. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: september17@googlegroups.com [mailto:september17@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Gabriel Johnson > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:59 PM > To: september17@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We > need to plan for overflow. > > > > I was in the process of typing up a reply, saw your email, you are probably > right. Key points: Public parks do technically close, and I don't think > Washington Square Park is an ideal location for other reasons. Is "direct > action" the new name for tactical? And when + where are the meetings? > > > > --glj > > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote: > > Since this is a sensitive security issue, we may not want to discuss this on > the public listserv because it's undoubtedly under police surveillance. We > should probably call a meeting of the direct action working group to discuss > this in person. > > Doug > > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote:

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from what I see the occupation there is stable. Though, I am sure that they are looking for any excuse to clear the park. One such excuse could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding. These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD. In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park, preferably a larger one. We should absolutely continue to use Liberty Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will not house the entire 99%. I propose that we explore how we might assume control of Washington Square Park. As public land, there is no excuse for eviction that we are trespassing. A physically large presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a bicycle to something. There are arches which we can triumphantly march through and return through. The open aerial coverage presents multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt. This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration. I suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting. People will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people. So, the physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not. I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately, only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Doug Singsen september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow. Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:56:02 PM

Since this is a sensitive security issue, we may not want to discuss this on the public listserv because it's undoubtedly under police surveillance. We should probably call a meeting of the direct action working group to discuss this in person. Doug On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from what I see the occupation there is stable. Though, I am sure that they are looking for any excuse to clear the park. One such excuse could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding. These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD. In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park, preferably a larger one. We should absolutely continue to use Liberty Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will not house the entire 99%. I propose that we explore how we might assume control of Washington Square Park. As public land, there is no excuse for eviction that we are trespassing. A physically large presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a bicycle to something. There are arches which we can triumphantly march through and return through. The open aerial coverage presents multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt. This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration. I suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting. People will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people. So, the physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not. I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately, only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of grimwomyn september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Miami Herald - Phone interview - TODAY Tuesday, October 04, 2011 4:23:14 PM

I am puerto rican raised in tennessee if that fits anywhere? On Oct 4, 2011 4:06 PM, "Vicente Rubio" <vrubiopu@gmail.com> wrote: > A Miami Herald jounalist is looking for a Latinamerican OWS organizer to > interview by phone asap. Please write to moralesisa@gmail.com. > > 2011/10/4 Yotam Marom <yotam.marom@gmail.com> > >> Hi friends. >> >> I wrote a piece about the occupation. Figured I'd put it up here in case >> people find it useful in some way. >> >> http://www.zcommunications.org/a-brief-analysis-from-a-wall-street-occupierby-yotam-marom >> >> See you down there. >> Yotam >> >>

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Conor Toms Reed september17@googlegroups.com; translatorbrigades@gmail.com; micahmwhite@gmail.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Multilingual Media Contacts Monday, October 03, 2011 1:38:18 PM

Micah, OWS has a crack team of translators who can hopefully help with your request. I added their gmail to this thread. -Conor On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Micah White <micahmwhite@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, I need the names of anyone willing to speak to the media about #ows who speaks a language other than English. Right now, I especially need someone who speaks English. But, all other languages are also necessary. Please email me your name, language spoken, and cell phone number. Thanks, Micah

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Vicente Rubio september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Proposal for working GROUP on Economics/Global Democracy or "Global Economic Democracy" Monday, October 03, 2011 5:13:23 PM

This is a great idea. Some of us were trying to help starting such kind of group. I made contacts with URPE (Chris Rude came to speak to the Open Forum earlier this week). Then a panel on OWS was held at URPE's conference last Saturday with grimwomyn, Jackie Di Salvo, John McGloin and Vlad Techberg. I think they talked about the possibility of opening such kind of group, please contact them, it would be great to coordinate efforts on that. Best, Vicente. 2011/10/3 shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> Dear OccupyWallStreet, There are many of us who share Cesars concerns he has voiced about the immigrant issue. THere are several of us who have been feeling frustrated with the process and marginalized. Can you please ask the GA for approval to form this group tonight. We, Immigrants need to have a space for discussion and inclusion to help mobilize, we would like to form this group and bring our discussion to the General Assembly. We are enthusiastic about the developments so far, we are eager to form this group and participate. We stand in solidarity! Shaista Husain

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of shaista husain september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Proposal for working GROUP on Economics/Global Democracy or "Global Economic Democracy" Monday, October 03, 2011 5:33:24 PM

Thank you comrade, Can we call the meeting for Tuesday at 3pm? And have this new group approved at tonights GA? Please spread the word far and wide. I believe we can begin with Cesar's statement on Global Democracy that was presented last night and work from there on developing ways to de-colonize our movement and the world at large. Peace and love, Shaista On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Vicente Rubio <vrubiopu@gmail.com> wrote: > This is a great idea. Some of us were trying to help starting such kind of > group. I made contacts with URPE (Chris Rude came to speak to the Open Forum > earlier this week). Then a panel on OWS was held at URPE's conference last > Saturday with grimwomyn, Jackie Di Salvo, John McGloin and Vlad Techberg. I > think they talked about the possibility of opening such kind of group, > please contact them, it would be great to coordinate efforts on that. > > Best, > Vicente. > > 2011/10/3 shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> >> >> Dear OccupyWallStreet, >> There are many of us who share Cesars concerns he has voiced about the >> immigrant issue. THere are several of us who have been feeling >> frustrated with the process and marginalized. Can you please ask the >> GA for approval to form this group tonight. We, Immigrants need to >> have a space for discussion and inclusion to help mobilize, we would >> like to form this group and bring our discussion to the General >> Assembly. We are enthusiastic about the developments so far, we are >> eager to form this group and participate. >> We stand in solidarity! >> Shaista Husain > >

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Will Gauss september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square-correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:56:02 PM

Then the Supreme Court decided unjustly and in contravention of liberty. Looks like another decision which must be overturned, or made irrelevant by mass civil disobedience. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Gabriel Johnson <gabjoh2@gmail.com> wrote: Okay but the Supreme Court disagrees. --glj On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:25 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: It is too late to put this to GA attention, so I will tweet now on the one condition that we make an effort to pass a resolution that in the future we completely reject the entire idea of requiring a "permit" to exercise Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of what possible, conceivable use is a freedom of speech and assembly which we must ask for? Asking for permissions implies legitimacy of a "no" answer. The entire purpose of this freedom is to give us the ability to unilaterally assert ourselves when our representatives fail to represent us. The requirement of a permit is a direct nullification of what is an unbridgeable right. On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed <conortomasr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the > mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square > so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest). > > https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 > > thanks! > -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Gabriel Johnson september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square-correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:08:05 PM

Seconded, mostly. Just saying, this isn't court winnable at the moment. -glj On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Will Gauss <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: Then the Supreme Court decided unjustly and in contravention of liberty. Looks like another decision which must be overturned, or made irrelevant by mass civil disobedience. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Gabriel Johnson <gabjoh2@gmail.com> wrote: Okay but the Supreme Court disagrees. --glj On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:25 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: It is too late to put this to GA attention, so I will tweet now on the one condition that we make an effort to pass a resolution that in the future we completely reject the entire idea of requiring a "permit" to exercise Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of what possible, conceivable use is a freedom of speech and assembly which we must ask for? Asking for permissions implies legitimacy of a "no" answer. The entire purpose of this freedom is to give us the ability to unilaterally assert ourselves when our representatives fail to represent us. The requirement of a permit is a direct nullification of what is an unbridgeable right. On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed <conortomasr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the > mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square > so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest). > > https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 > > thanks! > -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Aaron Gemmill september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square-correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:22:33 PM

It's my understanding that this march isn't directly organized by OWS, but by several groups sympathetic to OWS. By what authority would the GA restrict other groups from organizing their own assemblies as they see fit? Permitting creates a safe space for a much larger group of people to express their solidarity with OWS than would be able to in circumstances which would put them at risk for arrest, ticketing, etc.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Will Gauss <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: Then the Supreme Court decided unjustly and in contravention of liberty. Looks like another decision which must be overturned, or made irrelevant by mass civil disobedience. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Gabriel Johnson <gabjoh2@gmail.com> wrote: Okay but the Supreme Court disagrees. --glj On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:25 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: It is too late to put this to GA attention, so I will tweet now on the one condition that we make an effort to pass a resolution that in the future we completely reject the entire idea of requiring a "permit" to exercise Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of what possible, conceivable use is a freedom of speech and assembly which we must ask for? Asking for permissions implies legitimacy of a "no" answer. The entire purpose of this freedom is to give us the ability to unilaterally assert ourselves when our representatives fail to represent us. The requirement of a permit is a direct nullification of what is an unbridgeable right. On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed <conortomasr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the > mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square > so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest).
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> > https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 > > thanks! > -Conor

-aarongemmill.com tomorrownowforever.com robotpedagogue.com aarongemmill.tumblr.com

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Gabriel Johnson september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square-correct yr info! Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:39:51 PM

Okay but the Supreme Court disagrees. --glj On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:25 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: It is too late to put this to GA attention, so I will tweet now on the one condition that we make an effort to pass a resolution that in the future we completely reject the entire idea of requiring a "permit" to exercise Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of what possible, conceivable use is a freedom of speech and assembly which we must ask for? Asking for permissions implies legitimacy of a "no" answer. The entire purpose of this freedom is to give us the ability to unilaterally assert ourselves when our representatives fail to represent us. The requirement of a permit is a direct nullification of what is an unbridgeable right. On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed <conortomasr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the > mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square > so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest). > > https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707 > > thanks! > -Conor

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of jez bold september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: growing occupy wall st - POPS Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:32:20 PM

just look - it's all right here online: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/priv/priv.shtml !!! glad someone else noticed this and is getting into the thicket! On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Dale Luce <daleluce87@gmail.com> wrote: Hey thats excellent! I dont see the file attached, I am i missing something? Could you please forward it if not? Thanks! On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Micah White <micahmwhite@gmail.com> wrote: brilliant. multiple encampments in nyc would be amazing. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Drew H <drew@nycga.net> wrote: The private public space situation is amazing for us. There is a need to expand. I've cc'ed this information to the september17 google group. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Linnea M. Palmer Paton <lpalmerpaton@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Drew, I would send this to tactical but they don't seem to have an online presence. Please forward as you see fit. I'm an urban planning student, so naturally I was interested in the legal framework that made it possible for us to be in Zuccotti park. After some research I found the NYC Dept. of City Planning's zoning regulation and inventory of all privately owned public spaces (POPS). Since I hope that OWS gets so many people that we have to take over other sites, I thought we should start planning for what those sites are. I took the NYC DCP's inventory list, looked them up on google earth, and made a map of all the spaces that I think are large enough to accommodate another occupation site. Yellow is what I think is best, red is okay, blue is iffy, and pink is I'm not sure it's a POPS (the inventory is somewhat ambiguous by only listing street numbers and not providing maps of each site. I've attached the map I made, the NYC DCP inventory, the zoning reg (legalese), and a summary of POPS in NYC. Again, feel free to share.

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Lucas Vazquez september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: hero"s email/phone Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:06:24 PM

17048582541 On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:10 PM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote: Hero? On Oct 2, 2:50 pm, J Wedes <jwe...@gmail.com> wrote: > anyone got it? > > -justin

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Jackie DiSalvo september17@googlegroups.com SPAM-MED: RE: [september17discuss] Re: Labor working group action dates needed Monday, October 03, 2011 11:04:30 AM

Where do I get the list of attendees to Labor group?

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september17@googlegroups.com on behalf of Gabriel Johnson september17@googlegroups.com Barry Ritholtz; George Washington; Yves Smith; Michael Hudson; Matthew Taibbi; Dylan Ratigan; WilliamBlack; David DeGraw; yotam.marom@gmail.com; vlad@glassbeadcollective.com; dissector@mediachannel.org; Nomi; Michael; Mike Papantonio; MichaelKrieger; Tyler Durden; ellenhbrown@gmail.com; Karl; Kevin Zeese; max; Simon; Zach; David CayJohnston; Bill Laggner; Paul; Noam Chomsky; BillMoyers; ggreenwald@salon.com; glen.ford@blackagendareport.com; oftwomindz@comcast.net SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: OccupyWallStreet Economic Statement Draft 1 Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:59:19 AM

I just want to second Barry's point on keeping it focused on finance; everything is interrelated, of course, but this is *Occupy Wall Street* and a lot of the side ones are going to have a lot of our natural allies dismiss us. I just also might add some sort of taxing the rich plank; it's something enormously popular, all across the (even American) political spectrum. --glj On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Winter Siroco <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote: I hope that people are for major and enduring transformations, not for minor reforms. Cesar On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Barry Ritholtz <ritholtz@optonline.net> wrote:

Folks:

In terms of goals and desires, the simpler and more fundamental a list, the more like that actual change can be effected. I would keep it focused on finance (ie. Wall Street) and on issues that actually matter and can be a rallying cry for the nation. We don't want a top 10 list -- at least not as the main goals -- it becomes too unfocused. I suggest 3 goals, with specific political action to follow 1. Get dirty Wall St Money out of politics/legislative process 2. No more bailouts 3. End TBTF banks The legislative goals of each could be as follows: 1. CAMPAIGN FINANCE: Constitutional amendment changing the rules of campaign finance, providing public finance, removing the massive inflow of cash -- I believe Dylan called auctioning our Congress to the highest bidder. A national campaign to get that amendment on every ballot in every state is a very doable goal. (Marketing: "Take Congress back from Wall St!") 2. BAILOUTS: No more bailouts is obvious -- time to end private gains and socialized losses of crony capitalism
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(Marketing: "Bring Back Real Capitalism! " ) 3. TBTF: As George Shultz famously said, "If they're too big to fail, make them smaller." The bailouts have made the TBTF banks an even bigger, less competitive oligarchy. Bring back competition by limiting the size of these, either in terms of % of deposits or dollar amounts. Many ways to accomplish this, including an FDIC caps on insurance would be effective. (Bring now private citizen Sheila Bair into the discussion) These are all doable measurable goals, that can have a real impact on legislation, the economy and taxes. But do understand this: Whatever is accomplished will be temporary without campaign finance reform . . .

Barry L. Ritholtz CEO, Director of Equity Research Fusion IQ 535 Fifth Avenue, 25th floor New York, NY 10017 212-661-2022 x7104 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Big Picture: Macro perspectives on the Capital Markets, Economy, and Geopolitics http://www.ritholtz.com/

On Oct 4, 2011, at 6:52 PM, George Washington wrote: Since so many people think there is already an official list of demands, I wrote this to clear the air:

No, There Is NOT a List of Official Demands from the Protesters


As a side note, this guy has an interesting list: 1) End the Collusion Between Government and Large Corporations/Banks, So That Our Elected Leaders Are Actually
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Representing the Interests of the People (the 99%) and Not Just Their Rich Donors (the 1%). 2) Investigate Wall Street and Hold Senior Executives Accountable for the Destruction in Wealth that has Devastated Millions of People. 3) Return the Power of Coining Money to the U.S. Treasury and Return to Sound Money 4) Limit the Size, Scope and Power of Banks so that None are Ever Again Too Big to Fail and in Need to Taxpayer Bailouts 5) Eliminate Personhood Legal Status for Corporations 6) Repeal the Patriot Act, End the War on Drugs and Protect Civil Liberties 7) End All Imperial Wars of Aggression, Bring the Troops Home from All Countries, Cut the Military Budget and Limit The Military Role to Protection of the Homeland Curious if both liberals and conservatives on this list informally (and confidentially) agree. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Yves Smith <yves@nakedcapitalism.com> wrote: Right now, more people show up for work every day at Goldman than have shown up for these protests. We know that the grievances of the protestors are widely shared. But the risk is that demands lead to some sort of Potemkin negotations or dismissals in the press as to how unrealistic the demands are ("Throw Wall Street execs in jail! We tried that, they succeeded in getting the laws gutted so there is no way to do that. So you want us to become a nation of vigilantes?") The more people show up, continue to look like a good cross section of America, and make statements individually (via sites like We are the 99%, via their placards or when interviewed with the press) that resonate with people, the more the space of what is possible gets bigger. This is starting to change what it is acceptable to say in the media. That's very good initial progress. On Oct 4, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Michael Hudson wrote:

I should have added that it is easiest to agree on what the SYMPTOMS are. The economy is dying. Its being killed by financial mismanagers.
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Its polarizing. Neither party is addressing the root causes thats really why these guys are out there. Michael On 10/4/11 3:56 PM, "Yves Smith" <yves@nakedcapitalism.com> wrote: My concern re stating formal and explicit demands is that the officialdom will start an effort to pretend to address the demands or negotiate with "leaders" as a way to keep more people from turning out. A sustained effort that keeps growing, even it it grows slowly (and the growth may not be slow) is really disconcerting to the officialdom. It's something they cant contain and don't know how to deal with. My reader tell me the movement in Spain developed along precisely these lines, there were no formal overarching goals/demand articulated, but there was a lot of discussion among various groups at the local level as to what their grievances were. They also said the protests were transformational on a broader social level. Letting it percolate slowly seems to have been very powerful. It helps for people to find their voice. It's pretty obvious what the protestors want. That's why the call for demands is awfully disingenuous.

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On Oct 4, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Matthew Taibbi wrote: Let me ask you a question. If this were the Iraq war you were protesting instead of Wall Street corruption, would it be "naive" to demand a withdrawal from Iraq? Are you saying it's "naive" because it's unreasonable to expect results? I don't understand the use of that word in this context. --- On Tue, 10/4/11, Cesar <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote: From: Cesar <wintersiroco@gma il.com> Subject: Re: OccupyWallStreet Economic Statement Draft 1 To: "Matthew Taibbi" <m_taibbi@yahoo.c om> Cc: "Yves Smith" <yves@nakedcapita lism.com>, "Dylan Ratigan" <dylanratigan@gm ail.com>, "Michael
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Hudson" <michael.hudson@e arthlink.net>, "WilliamBlack" <blackw@umkc.ed u>, "David DeGraw" <AmpedStatus@am pedstatus.com>, "september17@goo glegroups.com" <september17@goo glegroups.com>, "yotam.marom@g mail.com" <yotam.marom@g mail.com>, "vlad@glassbeadcol lective.com" <vlad@glassbeadcol lective.com>, "dissector@mediac hannel.org" <dissector@mediac hannel.org>, "Nomi" <nomi@nomiprins. com>, "Michael" <mh@michaelhudson.com>, "Mike Papantonio" <MPapantonio@lev inlaw.com>, "MichaelKrieger" <michael@kamlp.c om>, "George Washington" <georgewashington. 911blogger@gmail.c
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om>, "Tyler Durden" <tyler@zerohedge.o rg>, "ellenhbrown@gma il.com" <ellenhbrown@gma il.com>, "Karl" <karl@denninger.n et>, "Barry" <thebigpicture@opt online.net>, "Kevin Zeese" <kbzeese@gmail.co m>, "max" <maxkeiser@gmail. com>, "Matt" <M_TAIBBI@yaho o.com>, "Simon" <baselinescenario@ gmail.com>, "Zach" <carter.zach@gmail .com>, "David CayJohnston" <dcjohn01@law.syr .edu>, "Bill Laggner" <laggner@bearinga sset.com>, "Paul" <paulcraigroberts@ yahoo.com>, "Noam Chomsky" <chomsky@mit.edu >, "BillMoyers" <moyersb@moyers media.com>, "ggreenwald@salon .com"
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<ggreenwald@salon .com>, "glen.ford@blackag endareport.com" <glen.ford@blackag endareport.com>, "oftwomindz@com cast.net" <oftwomindz@com cast.net> Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 3:05 PM I am for elaborating collective discourse, but perhaps better in terms of general GOALS rather than demands. Demads are naive at this point, to put it shoftly. This is not incompatible with strategic actions that may achieve short term victories. Due to our location I think we should provide our view of the economic facts, and prioritize our actions toward short term and long term solutions. Regarding the
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elaboration of collective discourse, perhaps we should try some form of open source or similar wiki-process that would facilitate multiple contributions from diverse viewpoints. Cesar Sent from phone

On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Matthew Taibbi <m_taibbi@yahoo.c om <xmsg://128/mc/comp ose? to=m_taibbi@yahoo .com> > wrote: I disagree with the notion that there shouldn't be demands. I think there should be a few simple ones. It's
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not a MSM conspirac y when the press wonders what the movement wants or who is leading it. I think there are a lot of people in the press and even on Wall Street who are ready to support the movement wholehear tedly, if it could articulate some specifics. If OWS could identify a few basic problems -- overconcentra tion of
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capital, regulatory capture, overweeni ng influence of money on politics, excess financializ ation of the economy, tax unfairness , etc -and propose some first-step solutions to all of those things (break up the banks, force bailout recipients to give up lobbying, end the carried interest and capital gains exemption
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s as Michael points out, etc), you'd have more allies, you'd be educating the public about a subject that it has a tough time getting real informati on about through normal media, and it would prevent the other side of the debate from being able to define the movement in their own (inevitabl y unflatteri ng) terms.
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The only thing preventin g millions of people from going out onto the streets on their own is that they don't understan d how Wall Street works or what it does. That to me is why the movement needs to be specific. It has a responsibi lity to explain these problems to the general public and to show that solutions do exist
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and that they're attainable . People I think need more than just the knowledg e that they can protest -they need to believe that they can fix things and that someone out there has the answers. And a lot of the people on this email list do have the answers and could provide that leadership that is so desperatel y needed.

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--- On Tue, 10/4/11, Dylan Ratigan <dylanrati gan@gmai l.com <xmsg://128/ mc/compo se? to=dylanra tigan@gm ail.com> > wrote: F r o m : D y l a n R a t i g a n < d y l
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Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

s e c t o r @ m e d i a c h a n n e l . o r g > " < d i s s e c t o r @ m e d


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

i a c h a n n e l . o r g < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

= d i s s e c t o r @ m e d i a c h a n n e l . o r g > > , " N o m i " < n o


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

m i @ n o m i p r i n s . c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

? t o = n o m i @ n o m i p r i n s . c o m > > , " M i c h a e l " < m h @ m


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

i c h a e l h u d s o n . c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

e ? t o = m h @ m i c h a e l h u d s o n . c o m > > , " M i k e P a p a n


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

t o n i o " < M P a p a n t o n i o @ l e v i n l a w . c o m < x m s g : /


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

/ 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = M P a p a n t o n i o @ l e v i n l a w
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

. c o m > > , " M i c h a e l K r i e g e r " < m i c h a e l @ k a m l p . c


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = m i c h a e l @ k a
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

m l p . c o m > > , " G e o r g e W a s h i n g t o n " < g e o r g e w a s h


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

i n g t o n . 9 1 1 b l o g g e r @ g m a i l . c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

/ m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = g e o r g e w a s h i n g t o n . 9 1 1 b l o g
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

g e r @ g m a i l . c o m > > , " T y l e r D u r d e n " < t y l e r @ z e r


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

o h e d g e . o r g < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = t y
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

l e r @ z e r o h e d g e . o r g > > , " e l l e n h b r o w n @ g m a i l .


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = e l l e n h b r o
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

w n @ g m a i l . c o m > " < e l l e n h b r o w n @ g m a i l . c o m < x Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = e l l e n h b r o w n @ g m a
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

i l . c o m > > , " K a r l " < k a r l @ d e n n i n g e r . n e t < x m s


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = k a r l @ d e n n i n g e r . n e
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

t > > , " B a r r y " < t h e b i g p i c t u r e @ o p t o n l i n e . n e t


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

< x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = t h e b i g p i c t u r
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

e @ o p t o n l i n e . n e t > > , " K e v i n Z e e s e " < k b z e e s e @


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

g m a i l . c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = k b z
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

e e s e @ g m a i l . c o m > > , " m a x " < m a x k e i s e r @ g m a i l .


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = m a x k e i s e r
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

@ g m a i l . c o m > > , " M a t t " < M _ T A I B B I @ y a h o o . c o m <


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = M _ T A I B B I @ y a h o
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

o . c o m > > , " S i m o n " < b a s e l i n e s c e n a r i o @ g m a i l .


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = b a s e l i n e s
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

c e n a r i o @ g m a i l . c o m > > , " Z a c h " < c a r t e r . z a c h @


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

g m a i l . c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = c a r
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

t e r . z a c h @ g m a i l . c o m > > , " D a v i d C a y J o h n s t o n "


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

< d c j o h n 0 1 @ l a w . s y r . e d u < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

m p o s e ? t o = d c j o h n 0 1 @ l a w . s y r . e d u > > , " B i l l L a


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

g g n e r " < l a g g n e r @ b e a r i n g a s s e t . c o m < x m s g : /


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

/ 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = l a g g n e r @ b e a r i n g a s s e t
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

. c o m > > , " P a u l " < p a u l c r a i g r o b e r t s @ y a h o o . c o


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = p a u l c r a i g r o
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

b e r t s @ y a h o o . c o m > > , " N o a m C h o m s k y " < c h o m s k y


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

@ m i t . e d u < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = c h o m
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

s k y @ m i t . e d u > > , " M o y e r s , B i l l " < m o y e r s b @ m o y


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

e r s m e d i a . c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o =
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

m o y e r s b @ m o y e r s m e d i a . c o m > > , " g g r e e n w a l d @ s


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

a l o n . c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = g g r e
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

e n w a l d @ s a l o n . c o m > " < g g r e e n w a l d @ s a l o n . c o m


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

< x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = g g r e e n w a l d @ s
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

a l o n . c o m > > , " g l e n . f o r d @ b l a c k a g e n d a r e p o r t


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

. c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o s e ? t o = g l e n . f o r
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

d @ b l a c k a g e n d a r e p o r t . c o m > " < g l e n . f o r d @ b l a


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

c k a g e n d a r e p o r t . c o m < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c / c o m p o
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

s e ? t o = g l e n . f o r d @ b l a c k a g e n d a r e p o r t . c o m > >
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

, " o f t w o m i n d z @ c o m c a s t . n e t < x m s g : / / 1 2 8 / m c
Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

/ c o m p o s e ? t o = o f t w o m i n d z @ c o m c a s t . n e t > " < o f


Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com