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17 Vṛndāvana, October 28, 1972
Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.): śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ hṛdy antaḥ-stho hy abhadrāṇi vidhunoti suhṛt satām [SB 1.2.17]
Translation: "Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the Personality of Godhead, who is the Paramātmā, Supersoul, in ev one's heart and the benefactor of the truthful devotee, cleanses desire for mate rial enjoyment from the heart of the devotee who relishes His messages, which ar e in themselves virtuous when properly heard and chanted." Prabhupāda: śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ hṛdy antaḥ-stho hy abhadrāṇi vidhunoti suhṛt satām [SB 1.2.17] There is a English proverb that "God helps him who tries to help himself." That is a English proverb. So to become Kṛṣṇa conscious is not very difficult thing. People have no taste. They do not understand the importance of this Kṛṣṇa consciousness move ment. But this is the only way by which one can become perfect and happy. It is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā that just to become happy and peaceful one has to learn three things. bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram suhṛdaṁ sarva-bhūtānāṁ jñātvā māṁ śāntim ṛcchati [Bg. 5.29] If you want... Because the problem is that we want to be happy and peaceful. Eve ryone says, "I want peace. There is no peace in my mind." That is a general unde rstanding. Nobody can say that "I am completely happy and peaceful." No, that is not possible. The material world is made in such a way that you cannot feel hap py. That is not possible. First of all, we have come to this material world to e njoy sense gratification, but that is not our proper business. Our proper busine ss is to satisfy the senses of Kṛṣṇa, not our senses. So because we have deviated from our original position, therefore it is always a perplexity of our life. But due to illusion we cannot understand it. Just like a hog is eating stool, living in a very filthy place, having sex witho ut any discrimination, but you see, hogs are very fatty. They feel very happy. U nless one feels very happy, he cannot become fatty. This is a psychology. Yes. W e have seen, sometimes, a confectioner, very quickly they become fatty. Because they always smell rasagullā. It is natural. You see. So the hogs, they feel very h appy, and get fatty. You see. But actually what is the happiness? He's eating st ool, living in a filthy place and no fixity of eating. But still, he's happy. Therefore Prahlāda Mahārāja, when he was asked by his father, "My dear boy, will you k indly let me know what best thing you have learned from your teachers?" So Prahlād
a Mahārāja replied, tat sādhu manye 'sura-varya dehināṁ sadā samudvigna-dhiyām asad-grahāt hitvātma-pātaṁ gṛham andha-kūpaṁ vanaṁ gato yad dharim āśrayeta [SB 7.5.5]
"My dear father..." He did not say "father." He said, "My dear the best of the d emons..." His father was a demon, and he was not afraid of his father, although his father was always insisting him, "You give up this Kṛṣṇa consciousness, learn like me, become a very big king, politician." But he would say, "No. Śravaṇaṁ kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ [ 5.23]. This is best thing." So that was the fight between the father and the son . So sometimes, after all, he was father, sometimes patting the son. So he repli ed, "My dear the best of the demons, asura-varya..." Asura means demon, and vary a means the best. Tat sādhu manye 'sura-varya dehinām. "I think for any living entit y who has accepted this material body..."
All of us, we have accepted this material body. Tat sādhu manye 'sura-varya dehinām asad-grahāt, sadā samudvigna-dhiyām asad-grahāt [SB 7.5.5]. Because the living entities accepted this material body, asad-grahāt... Asat means "that will not exist." Ever y living entity is eternal. He must have his eternal body. But purposefully, to enjoy this material world, the living entity has accepted a material body. Not o nly once, but it is going on continually, one after another. As I am accumulatin g material desires in this life... Just like I have got this body according to m y desires in the last life, similarly, whatever we are desiring in this life, th at will be fulfilled in the next life. Kṛṣṇa is very kind. As we desire, ye yathā māṁ prapa yante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham [Bg. 4.11]. ṛṣṇa is so kind that if you want a tiger's bod , Kṛṣṇa will give you. If you want a demigod's body, Kṛṣṇa will give you. If you want a bod like Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa will give you. Mad-yājino 'pi yānti mām. That is stated in the Bhagavadeva-vratā devān pitṝn yānti pitṛ-vratāḥ [Bg. 9.25]. Whatever you want, especially in this h n form of life, whatever you desire, Kṛṣṇa will give you chance. It may be very unpala table, but this is a fact. We have heard from authorities. That is why in Vṛndāvana there are so many hogs and monkeys and dogs. This is very m ysterious thing. The siddhānta, the conclusion is, we get it, information from Bhāga vatam... Just like that, the two sons of Kuvera. What is the? Maṇibandha...? Devotees: Maṇigrīva. Prabhupāda: Maṇigrīva...? Devotees: Nalakūvara. Prabhupāda: Nalakūvara. They wanted extensively sense enjoyment. They were enjoying. At that time, Nārada was passing. But they were so much intoxicated that they cou ld not cover their body. So Nārada cursed them that "You become a tree." But when they were very much submissive, fell down on the feet of Nārada, "How we shall get ...?" he asked them to get the tree life in Vṛndāvana. And because they were put in Vṛndāvana, after some time, they were delivered. So similarly, those who are executing devotional service, but at the same time c heating... Cheating means outwardly very devotional, inwardly doing all sinful a ctivities. Such living entity is given the chance to become a hog and dog in Vṛndāva na so that the reaction of the sinful activities, they get this body; at the sam e time, due to their touch with the dust of Vṛndāvana, they become eliminated of all sinful activities and liberated. So these hogs and dogs, they're also very impo rtant. They are not ordinary thing. But this is the explanation. The tortoise, t he... They have, they have got... Therefore a devotee, when he's punished in tha t way for the short time, they'll be liberated. Undoubtedly.
There is a statement in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam: tyaktvā sva-dharmaṁ caraṇāmbujaṁ harer bhajann apakvo 'tha patet tato yadi... [SB 1.5.17] Even one falls down, still, there is no loss. Because he'll get the chance. Kṛṣṇa will arrange in such a way. They'll get the chance. So actually, there is no loss. B ut one must be purified completely. So to get this hog's and dog's life means th ey are being purified. They are being purified. But without being completely pur ified, nobody can enter into the kingdom of God. That is not possible. Yeṣām anta-ga taṁ pāpam. So there is another version in Caitanya-caritāmṛta: anivijñā tare viṣaye khana diba sa caraṇāmṛtaṁ diye visa bhula iva(?) If one, by mistake, while executing devotional service, at the same time, keepin g his propensity for sense gratification, material enjoyment, then he is rectifi ed in that way.
So we should be very much careful. Careful... It is said, kṣurasya dhārā niśitā duratyayā. he spiritual path, Kṛṣṇa consciousness path, is just like sharpened razor. You take yo ur sharpened razor and shave your cheek. If you are expert, it will be very clea n-shaved. But if you are not expert, there is little inattention, immediately cu t and blood. Kṣurasya dhārā. This is an example. Durgaṁ pathas tat kavayo vadanti. But t he safest way... Here it is stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ [SB ttentively hear about Kṛṣṇa, puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ, if we hear about Kṛṣṇa, it doesn't mat am, but simply by hearing Kṛṣṇa, about Kṛṣṇa, I shal l acquire some resultant action of pio s activities. Just like there is the Bhāgavata-saptāha. You, within a week, nobody c an understand what is Bhāgavata. And the speaker also does not know what he's spea king. But because somehow or other, they're hearing about Kṛṣṇa, there is some pious r esultant action. That's a fact.
So śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ [SB 1.2.17]. If we engage ourselves... cepted this process, simply hearing... That is the accepted process, śravaṇam, śravaṇaṁ kīr anam. So Caitanya Mahāprabhu also accepted this process. Sthāne sthitāḥ śruti-gatāṁ tanu-vā hiḥ. He refused so many other processes of self-realization, beginning from varṇāśrama-d harma, jñāna-miśra-bhakti, karma-miśra-bhakti, karma-tyāga. He, not rejected; he said, "It is external. If you know something more, speak," when He was talking with Rāmānanda Rāya. So when Rāmānanda Rāya quoted a passage from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam which wa s spoken by d Brahmā: jñāne prayāsam udapāsya namanta eva jīvanti san-mukharitāṁ bhavadīya-vārtām sthāne sthitāḥ śruti-gatāṁ tanu-vāṅ-manobhir ye prāyaśo 'jita jito 'py asi tais tri-lokyām So Caitanya Mahāprabhu accepted that people should be given chance, some way or ot her, to hear about Kṛṣṇa. That's all. These meetings are arranged, these saṅkīrtana partie s are arranged... We are sending our men throughout the whole world simply to gi ve them some chance to hear about Kṛṣṇa. This is the process. And it is actually happe ning very effective. Simply. When I was coming here, I was in Manila. What is called? Devotees: Manila. Prabhupāda: Manila. Yes. Manila, in Philippines. So this Manila, Philippines, they eat dogs. But still they gave very patient hearing to kṛṣṇa-kathā. My last meeting was
in a big hotel. Our Sudāmā Vipra Gosvāmī Mahārāja arranged it, and it was very successful m eting. All full of young men. And they came to hear about Kṛṣṇa. And they responded ve ry nicely. They purchased books, they danced, they chanted. So this Kṛṣṇa consciousnes s movement is progressing only on this basis: śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ [SB 1.2.17]. Just hance to hear about Kṛṣṇa. We are not bribing them. I have not bribed all these Americ an and European boys to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. I have no money. I, when I went to Ame rica, I had only seven dolla rs. One h our's expenditure in New York. You see. S o there is no question of bribing them. But they heard about Kṛṣṇa. I was reading Bhag avad-gītā on the street, on the store, in the park, and chanting. They heard, and th ey came to me. They became attracted. Why? Because it is said here, hṛdy antaḥ-sthaḥ. Within the heart, hy abhadrāṇi... People are suffering because they have got so many dirty things within the heart . The most important dirty thing are the modes of material nature. Sattva-guṇa, ta mo-guṇa... Sattva-guṇa is also not dirty, but it is mixed with dirty things. And raj o-guṇa, tamo-guṇa is purely dirty. Rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa is purely dirty. Here, our intel ligence is also dirty, because it is mixed up with these modes of material natur e. In the material life, the int..., we are using our intelligence... Everyone i s using, or..., his intelligence, how to become happy. The whole world is going on, working so hard. There is intelligence, certainly. But that is dirty intelli gence. That is dirty intelligence. Dirty intelli...
What kind of dirty intelligence? That is described in the Bhagavad-gītā: duṣkṛtinaḥ. Kṛtī. ans very expert, kṛtī. Kṛtī. One who is expert, he's called kṛtī. But here the word has bee added: dus. Duṣkṛtī. Duṣkṛtin. Just like one who has discovered the atomic bomb. It has r equired very nice brain. Unless the scientist is very intelligent, kṛtī, how he coul d discover such dangerous weapon? So there is intelligence, undoubtedly. But the intelligence has been wrongly used. Duṣkṛtinaḥ. They have discovered something to kil l man. But they could discover something which will save man. But that is not po ssible. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement—which will save man. You can discover somet hing to kill man, but you cannot discover something which will save man. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. And it is very easy. Simply by giving some time to hear about Kṛṣṇa. s soon as one sincerely hears about Kṛṣṇa...
Kṛṣṇa is situated in everyone's heart. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe arjuna tiṣṭhati [Bg. oth are living together within the heart as friends. Kṛṣṇa is so sincere friend that H e's trying always to take me back again, back to home, back to Godhead. That is His business. But I am denying, "No, Sir, I shall remain as hog. I shall be happ y by eating stool." Kṛṣṇa says, "No, give up this business." Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja [Bg. 18.66]. "I'll give you protection." "No, Sir, I'll eat meat, I s hall eat the stool. I have got very good facility for sex life without any discr imination." There are so many so-called... I don't wish to discuss, but sex life is so strong that they cannot give up even in so-called devotional life. So thi s is dirty things. Actually it is very dirty. But one can give it up if one is v ery strongly under the shelter of Kṛṣṇa. yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ kṛṣṇa-padāravinde nava-nava-rasa-dhāmany udyataṁ rantum āsīt tad-avadhi bata nārī-saṅgame smaryamāne bhavati mukha-vikāraḥ suṣṭhu niṣṭhīvanaṁ ca
Yāmunācārya says. If one... Kṛṣṇa is Madana-mohana. If one is attracted, actually, by Kṛṣṇa a cannot kill him. Kṛṣṇa will save. So the... Actually, the dirty thing is our..., thi s sex desire. Sex desire increases our attachment for this world. puṁsaḥ striyā mithunī-bhāvam etaṁ tayor mitho hṛdaya-granthim āhuḥ ato gṛha-kṣetra-sutāpta-vittair janasya moho 'yam ahaṁ mameti [SB 5.5.8]
Everything is there, Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. The ultimate knowledge to understand everythin g. Unfortunately, they speak on Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, but not scrutinizingly, pointing ou t what are the defects in our life. They want to enjoy another type of sense gra tification. Anyway, we do not wish to discuss. But actually, if we want to get r id of all dirty things from our heart, we must hear scrutinizingly about Kṛṣṇa. This i s the prescription given here. Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ [SB 1.2.17 rstand, it doesn't matter. You simply give vibration, hear the vibration. Just l ike we are doing. What, in European countries and American countries, they'll un derstand? But we are sending in every important street. In New York we are sendi ng in the Fifth Ave nue, the most important street in the world. Fifth Avenue, N ew York, we are chanting. We have seen pictures in our Back to Godhead. They are chanting. In London, the most important street, Oxford Street, we send our men. In Melbourne, they're, they're now arresting. I do not know what is the positio n now. But they are prepared. These boys and girls, so nice that they're arreste d sometimes. Just like Kazi was torturing Caitanya Mahāprabhu's party. Of course, now, civilized world, there is no such torturing, but our men are, very often th ey are arrested and put into jail also. But still, they go. They go every day. N ow in London, the police has become disgusted. They don't, do not arrest anymore . Yes. So I say that if you are arrested, why you should be sorry? You go in the jail and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That's all. So that others will get the opportunity to hea r about Kṛṣṇa.
So this is our propaganda. Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means we are giving chance to people to hear about Kṛṣṇa. Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ [SB 1.2.17]. in India also. But we have got better field of activities outside India, I tell you, frankly. I am very much encouraged. Because the, we get very good response quickly. And they become immediately attached to Kṛṣṇa, as you see the samples here. T hey have given up, on account of their attachment to Kṛṣṇa, they have given up all the ir nonsense, or abhadrāṇi. Abhadrāṇi. Abhadrāṇi. This, the principle abhadrāṇi means illici , intoxication, meat-eating, and gambling. These are the four pillars of abhadrā&7 751;i. So by Kṛṣṇa consciousness, Kṛṣṇa helps. Śṛṇvatām... When Kṛṣṇa sees that "This man, ity's now sincere to hear about Me," He helps. Hṛdi... Because He's there. You hav en't got to find out somewhere else. You haven't got to go to Himalaya to find H im. He's here. Hṛdy antaḥ-stho hi. So He's also within. And my all dirty things are also within. So as soon as He sees... I am also within. As soon as He sees that "This living entity's now little serious about hearing about Me," He helps. Hṛdy a ntaḥ-stho hy abhadrāṇi vidhunoti. He helps you. I cannot get out of these dirty things by my own endeavor. That is not possible. But Kṛṣṇa helps. As soon as we are little s erious to hear about Kṛṣṇa, He helps.
Buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi taṁ yena mām upayānti te. Kṛṣṇa says. Here, it is indirectly said that . And in the Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa directly says, "Yes. I give him such intelligence so that he may come back to home, back to Godhead." Yena mām upayānti te. To whom? Teṣāṁ satata-y uktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam [Bg. 10.10]. One who is twenty-four hours engaged in the lo g service of the Lord, and satata-yuktā... Satata means twenty-four hours. Not off icially. Of course, by official, one may gradually come to the position of satat a-yuktānām. Bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam. With faith and love, if one is engaged in the service f the Lord, then Kṛṣṇa says, buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi tam. There are two things, buddhi and bud dhi-yogam. Buddhi, ordinary buddhi, intelligence, that is dirty. But when it is yogam... Yogam means connected with Kṛṣṇa. It is called buddhi-yogam.
So we require buddhi-yogam. Not buddhi. If we simply use our buddhi, intelligenc e, then we continue to become duṣkṛtinaḥ. Buddhi's there, but it is utilized in a misd irected way. That is called duṣkṛtinaḥ. Therefore we must engage our buddhi... Because buddhi is the immediate step before we realize self. First our conception is in driyāṇi, these senses. Indriyāṇi parāṇy āhur indriyebhyaḥ paraṁ manaḥ [Bg. 3.42]. We give v importance to the senses. The bodily concept of life means to give importance to sense enjoyment. That's all. This is bodily concept of life. So indriyāṇi parāṇy āhuḥ. The are very important. Those who are bodily, in bodily concept of life, they are a
ddicted to sense gratification. Indriyāṇi parāṇy āhur indriyebhyaḥ paraṁ manaḥ [Bg. 3.42]. hose who are little advanced more, they are addicted to the mental speculation. The so-called jñānīs, mental speculation. Manasas tu parā buddhiḥ. Then again you come to the platform of intelligence. Intelligence, and when the intelligence is purifie d, hṛdy antaḥ-stho hy abhadrāṇi, purified, simply by hearing about Kṛṣṇa, then immediately are raised to the platform of spiritual life. This is the process. So, śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ hṛdy antaḥ-stho hy abhadrāṇi vidhunoti suhṛt satām [SB 1.2.17]
He is very intimate friend of the sādhus, of the devotees. He is everyone's friend . Suhṛdaṁ sarva-bhūtānām [Bg. 5.29]. He's everyone's friend. God, Kṛṣṇa, He's everyone's fr but He's a special friend for the devotees. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. He says, samo 'haṁ sarva-bhūteṣu na me dveṣyo 'sti na priyaḥ ye bhajanti tu māṁ bhaktyā mayi te teṣu cāpy aham [Bg. 9.29] Priyaḥ teṣu te mayi: because He's God, He's kind to everyone; without His kindness, we cannot live for a moment. That is a fact. But if one becomes a devotee, He gi ves special protection. Kaunteya pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśyati [Bg. 9.31]. So there fore this human form of life is a special prerogative for the living entity, and if we take advantage of it and simply try to hear about Kṛṣṇa, then our life is succe ssful. Thank you very much. (end) http://krishnaonline.com.br/Srimad-Bhagavatam%201.2.17_Vrndavana_28_10_72.html
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