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from the Forum department... steam turbine critical speeds

Posted by anyone on 23 April, 2010 - 4:45 pm we have critical speed ranges for all the rotating equipments. During steam turbine ramp-up condition it ramps with a designed ramp-up rates as per the design and it changes at the time of critical speed ranges. But during ramp-down condition turbines doesn't follow any fast ramp-down rates during these critical speeds. Why it was designed so. We have the facility of vacuum breaking system also, but in most of the cases we didn't use this system. Why.

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So. find out the critical speed of the shaft.) Here Nc= critical speed.7:19 am Critical speed: It is the speed at which the center of mass is not equal to the center of rotation. Shaft is under hogging (Upper side bowing) 3.Deflection of the shaft in the terms of +ve. I .. the critical speed calculation will give a sense to avoid the rotation of the shaft at this speed to avoid the deflection of the shaft to infinity..Deflection of the shaft is infinity 2. Basically vibrations is expressed in the terms of displacement (mills or mm or microns)... Critical speed (rpm)useful to express the vibration in the terms of mm/sec. There are 3 comparisons to find out the criticality of the shaft deflection : 1.14 and g= acceleration due to gravity. simply supported beam (SSB) and Fixed beam (FB) Type of loads--.. Dunkerley's formula is useful to find out the critical speed with different loads 1/ (Nc) 2 = 1/ (N1) 2+1/ (N2) 2+1/ (N3) 2 +. N3. Type of shaft-Cantilever (CL)..Unit or point Loads (PL) and uniformly distributed loads (UDL) Our Turbine shaft is a SSB with combination of Point loads and uniformly distributed loads... dl=change of elongation of the shaft.length of shaft. Acceleration (mm/sec2).Posted by DEV on 27 April...e. N2. To avoid the shaft deflection to infinity. l. Velocity (mm/sec or inch/sec).Moment of inertia. Shaft is . So. E.. Speed of the Shaft<Critical speed of the Shaft----. Critical speed of the shaft (Nc) = 1/2(pi)*square root of (g/dl)-------(1) Here pi= 3. Here dl value will change with respect to the type of the shaft and loads on the shaft.. 2010 . Speed of the Shaft>Critical speed of the Shaft----.e. (1/ N1 square+ 1/N2 square+ 1/N3 square+. So d= = wl3/3EI (for unit loads with SSB)-----(2)(Here l3 is the L power 3) (5/384)*(wl3/EI) (for uniformly distributed loads with SSB)----(3) Here w=weight. deflection of the shaft is infinity i. Speed of the Shaft=Critical speed of the Shaft----.Young's modulus.Deflection of the shaft in the terms of -ve. N1.. Normally at these critical speeds the vibration is very high i. Critical speeds at different type of loads So. angular velocity (W) of the shaft = Critical angular velocity (Wc).

Turbine will coast down rapidly-It is not advisable.e. Design ramp rate is such a way that to avoid the running of the shaft at critical speed while start-up. "Critical speed calculation is to avoid the formation bowing"while start-up. Bowing of the Shaft will find out for a turbine shaft before start-up by using the measurement of "eccentricity" Formation of Bowing of the Shaft will avoid by find out the critical speed while start-up.. "Eccentricity is to find out the bowing" at lower speeds before start the machine by keeping the Turbine under turning gear. Gravity bowing and thermal bowing(It will not distinguish the type of bowing-it will give eccentricity value only) Eccentricity also gives a sense for the condition of the Center of mass to center of Rotation. shaft will have different critical speeds to avoid the deflection of the shaft. I hope it is useful for u. ramp rate will change at this point of speed. Eccentricity value is very critical: Eccentricity or Rate of change of eccentricity (ROCE) high will not give permissive to start the machine.under sagging (Lower side bowing) So.. vacuum is useful to coast down the turbine properly which is based on the residual kinetic energy in the rotor. Normally vacuum is advisable to break in emergency situation only unless shut-down i.11:58 am what is the difference between keyphasor and eccentricity probe? . Normally before starting a turbine. So. Critical speed calculation is very important. Posted by vinu on 21 June. If break the vacuum.. I am coming to the point. To avoid the deflection of the shaft while start up of a steam turbine. 2010 . But while shut-down the Turbine shaft automatically it will coast down (rotation of the shaft is due to residual kinetic Energy only while shutdown and It will never stay at critical speed). Total Lube oil system failure and thrust bearings unable to handle load. Based on this calculation. Waiting for your reply Reply to this post. Eccentricity will able to find out the any type of bowing like-fixed Bowing. In the normal operation.

Reply to this post. Please read those terms and conditions carefully. Thank you. the majority of the problems are solved for uniform diameter shafts but in actual practice the turbine rotor consists of different diameter sections. Users of this site are benefiting from open source technologies. Subject to the rights expressly reserved to others under Legal Notices. Internet Explorer 6.. hence how to consider the step sections of the rotor while calculating the critical speeds. including PHP. LLC. Be happy. kindly reply back. Posted by Lakshmaiah on 19 October. Your use of this site is subject to the terms and conditions set forth under Legal Notices and the Privacy Policy. the content of this site and the compilation thereof is © 1999-2011 Nerds in Control.1:41 am Hi this is Lakshmaiah I have doubt in the calculation of critical speeds As I go with the study material in various text books.. Reply to this post.. . M ySQL and Apache..0 Fix Fortune Lazlo's Chinese Relativity Axiom: No matter how great your triumphs or how tragic your defeats -approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less. All rights reserved. 2011 .

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