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WILLIAMWHEELER,
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Special
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advised the
writer

this date
that he
has obtained
acopyof aregistration
of voters
affadavit

which reflected
that LUCILLE
BALL, actress,
l3hh Ogden
Drive, Los
Angeles,
registered asCommunist 1936.
in

g WHEELER
advisedhas
he made
inquiries through
the Screen
Actors

Guild and
has determined
that LUGILLE
BALL, screen
the
TV
ad actress,
resided
at
13hb Ogden Drivein 1936.

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suspxr: LUCILLE
BKLL, Was.
SECURITY -MATTER
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This
was
case
on
opened
basis
the
information
of
to
the
writer
uILLI&£
WHEELER,
by
Investigator,
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on
to
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the
ference
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for
Communist
Party.
effect
the
had
that
Subject
to
registered
in
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1936
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advised
he
interviewed
further
BALL
that
in
this
regard
and
she
that
him
advised
in
that
she,
1936
grandfathe
her
brothe
herregistered
mother
Communists
the
of
as
insistenc
grandfa
the
at
She
out
pointed
the
that
grandfather
was
an
old
man
was
who
his
loos
_mental
and
he
balance,
that
repeatedly
nagged
family
to
register
his
as
Communists.
advised
according
to
her
mother,
that
She
grandfa
he
aCommunist;
however,
never
actually
saw
aCommunis
she
Party
in his
ca
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ofpertinent
Los
theindices
Angeles
that
foregoin
reveale
the
information
all
other
and
concerning
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informa
furnished
to
the
Bureau
letter
10/2/51,
by
dated
"FRED
BALL
Ient
possession.

SECLRITY C3".
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review
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office
the
failed
indices
reflect
to
activities
any
on
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Subject&#39;s
in Communist
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act
Communist~dominated
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19b3,
1936
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subsequent to January, 15b9,
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does not merit investigation,

be placed in a closed status
has
been

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is
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administratively. It
of the
past

activities of

that this

case

is noted that the
Bureau
the
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1953 is
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had been tentively selected
_and
Mrs. Heart of 1953" were

for "Mr.

Era LUCILLE
BALL and
DESI ARNAZ.
bD>

vised
that

upon learning
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tely contacted
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type
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person to

that he

might possible
felt that
ization would

might result

from a

orga nizations
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subpoena LUCILLE

with the

fund drive

not be

able to

if LUCILLE

BALL in
of the

stand

BALL were

.
sour

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the coming

NHA in
the
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to be

selecting

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year, and

February the

he

organ-

publicity which

subpoenaed.

the promoters
of the
CILLE BALL,
and they

process of

proper

NHA because o

activities and

had heard

HHA an

BELLE-BALL
was
notthe

represent the

with subversive

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since
are in
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LUCILLE BALL,

was.

SECURITY MATTER

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,xrnished
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av

strict confidence.

he National
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and their

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LUCILLB BALLwas not the proper type of person
to represent the National Heart Associat
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subversive
and
activities
organizations he
hatheard
had

from afairly
might
possibly
drive of

reliable source that
the
ouse ounu ee on n-American Activities
subpoena LUCILLEBALL in 1953, and he felt that with the mad

the National

would
not

Heart Association

be able to stand
the

LUCILLE BALL were to

inFebruary,

1953 the

orgnization

unfavorable publicity which might
result

if

be subpoenaed.

n4- &#39; O
promoters
oi
the
1&8
.1onal
Associati
Heart
n
withdrew leir
suppor o
L; 1..92.E
BALL and are selecting
anew "Kr. and Hrs.
Heart of

1953".

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Mr. WILLIAM A. k&#39;HE!&#39;ILER,
&#39;SpOCiBl Investigator,
House Committeeon
Un-American Activities,
advised that he had obtained infonaatiax to the effect
that LUCILLE BALL had registered to
the Communist

vote in

Mr. WHEELERfurther advised

that he

regard and that -she advised him that in1936

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her preference

for

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and hermother registered
as Communists
at the insistenceof
her

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out thatthe grandfather
was
an old man
whowas
losing

grandfather.

his mental

balance andthat he repeatedly "nagged"
his family to
register as Commnists.
She advisedthat
according
to
her mother hergrandfather wasa Communist.

However, she
never actually
sswthe
Communist
Party
cardin
his
Hr. WHEELER
related that in
view

of Miss BALL&#39;s explanation
and

inasmuch extensive
investigations and hearings heldby
the
had failed
to

reflect that
LUCILLE

possession.

HCUA
in
Hollywood

BALL hasever been a Comunist Party

member,
she
will not, in his opinion, ever
be subpoenaed
to appearbefore
this
committee.

It is to be noted that informants whohave been
familiar
with the
identities and the activities of
members of
the Communist Fhrtyin the

motion picture
industry have
not reported
any information
reflecting Comunist
Party membershipon the part of
Miss

BALL.

The aboveinformation is being
submitted

"

for the information of
the

Bureau. It is to be notedthat additional information concerningMiss BALL

was submitted
by
Los Angeles letter
to the Director, dated
10/2/51, entitled
"FEEL HENRYBALL, $ECURITY MATTER-C". _

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Saturday released the text
of
a never was interested in politranscript
of
testimony
by
the tics" and is not now. was dofamed television star in which -ing housework and tending her
babies at the Arnaz
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DAY OF F;
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a
Communist in 1936 to COOKS
The housekeeper and the
humor a. sweet old guy, will
cook are gone today,
exibe gone
for
six weeks.
plained Desi. Lucy is busy
Jackson disclosed that investi- with the cooking and the
gation
of
the casewould be con- babies. and Im answering
tinued, explaining that no case the phone constantly.
Were tremendously happy
is,-everclosed, and that there
and grateful to everyone_ all
&#39;.
are a couple
of
points we want
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to
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would call her
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~
This morning
-Desi
called
to
Denies Aliatlon
conrm the
report that
Lucille
Lucille herself
came on the had been questioned byan in-1
the House
Unphone and denied that she was vestigator of
Committee,
anyway
affiliated with
the American Activities
founded rumors and hope that in
I &#39;
"E;
asked if she had ever William Wheeler.
the committee
will release a party. I
.she was rst approached
by_
of its
meetings,
full transcript
of the informa- attended any
an investigator
in April
of
this
and was told she hadnt. Desi
tion I gave them."
said: &#39;
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They "had found aregistrag Report on
Radio
tion card inthe
1936 prirnariesf;
Following a radio report that
Lucille told
me
this
morning.
the top television actress
had
They asked
me
about it; they._
been confronted
with amemU.S. Weather Bureau forerefreshed my
memory. I &#39;didn&#39;t_
bership card in the Communist
cast: Variable
high cloudirecall anything
about it.
I»exParty," I
began
hearing
from
ness but generally sunny
plained that
the reason we-did
people who said:
today and
t o m o rr&#39;o
w.
it was because Daddy wanted
To us the top television acChance of
few sprinkles.
us to - Daddy
meaning my
tress
is
Lucille Ball.
Tell
us
Continued warm
with
a
grandfather. At
that
time it didthe report
isnt true."
high today near 95
at
Civic
nt seem at all wrong to try-jto
*-._I called Lucille and
Desi ArCenter and 82 at the beachplease him. It was his last. few
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the
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BY HEDDA
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morning ~Luci1le
Ball,
star of the I Love Lucy"
television show,
told me "over the
phone:
It is true that I have talked
to arepresentative
of the UnAmerican Activities
Committee,
and gave full,
truthful
answers
to all his questions.
I am very
happy to have had this opportunity to
reply to
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you the other day was that
the
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asked.

in
the

fI don&#39;t know
what they
called the
party then,"
she an-1

iswered.
was
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as she?
continued:

answers on
it.

That

to cover up
or
be frightened
about but" they now have a

sworn
statement

testifying. .."_

&#39;At this
point Lucille

could

not continue.
So Desi came on
the phone and said: :&#39; ./

Its terrible,
Hedda, that
something the poor kid did in

1936to
please her grandfather
can kick

back in

her face

She has never in
her
wrong

to
anybody;

had any

now.

life done
has never

sympathy for

these

Commles. You know, the girl

has never even been connected
with these
pinks
out here; she

has never gone to meetings;
never been
partythis

amember
is
terrible,

of their
Hedda..

Denies Card

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was satised
l<
twice. Thesecond time
they
came tome they said
they
had 1
to
clear themselves for
sure,l

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had acard."

magazine was coming out with

this when I asked the,other.

for they had heardthat some

It was

reported she

was con-

fronted with a Communist ParShe never

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&#39;you
me

the story.So theyreopened the
inv tigation privately. They
ask me again,
for
they want-1
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told me the committeedidn&#39;t_

{way0stopping the magazine.

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istory traightand there
was no

morning?" I asked. If

want this

you had

known you

should

have said;no comment,in a

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days ~unders_tand_.&#39;
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of
telegrams from well-wishers, luxuriated in the privacy of

their Chatsworth
home yesterday,
glad that
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they shoot rst and ask the
questions later

that the full
transcript
of Miss
Ball&#39;s testimony before the
House Un-American
Activities
Committee had been printed in
The Times, and they hope,.the
ordeal is over.
_

Lucy
and

TheTVstars
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to be
back
to work as
usu
9am.
today to prepare fo
lming of
another Lucy
next Friday
night.

I Just have noth-

ing more
to say,
said Desi.
Everything has
been said. All
the truth has been told. Everybody has been
wonderful.
We
never
knew
how many friends
we
had."

Alone
With
Children
The cook, the maid
apd

the

nurse
were
of! for the day. Except for the telephone,
which
rang every
few
minutes, the
stars of
I Love
Lucy"
were
alone in the house with their
children, Lucy,
2, and Desi IV,
8 months.
Desi took an early
dip
in the
pool while Lucy made the beds
and apot of coffee.

.Desi said they telt no resentment over

their
questioning

by

hordes "of newspaper reporters
since
Lucy&#39;s
1936 registration
up Communist
was made publie by the House committee. . 3
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lucky this
happened
to us in America .wheremews-

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contronted the

vivacious actress

with the registration recently.
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time,
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Miss
Ball
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she was aregistered
Communist voter but is not one now.
In
1936,
it also was disclosed

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The House
Committee will
make an official report
on the
matter in the very near future,

it was said
in

-ew-

to unfounded
rumors
hope
I and
very much
theloommlttee

will

see flt to release acomplete
transcript of
the information
&#39;
I gave."
&#39;
Fiery Cuban
Actor "Desi Arnaz, husband
and partner
,oi
Miss Bali in the ILove
Lucy"
show, was
indignant. He
adamantly refused
to allow reporters to talk to the star herself,-but said:
Lucille registered
for the
first time
last year with me,

oday, Lucille Ball was listed by

then Secretary
of State Frank
C. Jordan as amember
01 the
Communist state
central commlttee, and her address as 1344
North Ogden drive.
The ILove
Lucy" show
oi
which
the
tempestuous Lucille
is the star has the highest TV
rating tor
any long run show.
[t is scheduled to return to the
ll! waves on Oct.
5after
the
summer vacation.
as Democrats,
and wevoted5
Despite determined
efforts
for Eisenhower.
I know that
of the
Herald-Express to
she&#39;s never
registered as
a
reach her this morning tor an
Communist. You
can check
explanation of
her 17-yearwith the
Un-American Activ--,
ities Commlttee.That will
old Los Angeles county
vote
prove she isn&#39;t
aCommunist."
registration, the
flaming-

haired actress delayed making

any-comment.
i

&#39;

ISSUE STATEMENT

v Several hours later, however,
utter the

Herald-Express news

story appeared,Miss Bail: repnesentativse nally

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told-reporters} _

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ence jthis evening» at the Statler
Hotel. He-indicated
he.would
discuss Miss Ball&#39;s case.
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living room to see who was at!
the door. - She&#39;s up
now. Will

1&#39;

you

. Congressmanlackson plead- ask herto seeup? askedthe
ged that he couldn&#39;t
say anything reporter.
-&#39;.
at present, although he
admitted
Just
a
moment,
said the
&#39;-that the
full
House
Committee
on &#39;Un-AmericanActivities is
being polled on the possibility
of releasing
Miss
Ball&#39;s
testimony. _
.
Jackson was asked
if
it wasnt
true that
Miss Ball
once supported Emil Freed
when
he ran
for Congress
in 1938 on the

Communist Partyticket, but re
plied emphatically
that he
couldn&#39;t talkuntil a
poll had
been taken of the whole committee.

maid, olosing

the door.
.

_.

A few_minutes later, Arnal.
re-opened the door,
and
porter explainedagain

the re
that he

wished to talk-with Miss
-Ball
about the registration.
Its early, isn&#39;t queried
it?
Arnaz. Lets
see your ore-,
dentials."
_
_ &#39;
.
After seaming
-the "endeatials, Arnaz asked:
i4.

OK. Now

what do
you

want? &#39;.
".
said: We&#39;d
When the Herald-Express re- The reporter
like astatement
from Miss Bal
porters went
to the
couple&#39;s
regarding
her
registration
as
a
sprawling ranch
home, "Desilu," at 19700 Devonshire street Communist partyvoter." _;
Told that the Herald-Expres
in exclusive Northridge in
the
San Fernando Valley, Miss Ball possessed a photostatic copy 0
the affidavit
showing that -Mis
refused to meet them.
Ball had registered in
1936 a
The reporters told Arnaz that
aParty voter, Arnaz snapped
the Herald-Express possessed a You&#39;re
a- -- - liar!
&#39;
photostatic copy of
an
affidavit
But he invited the newspaper
showing that
Miss Ball
had men
inside
the house, and afte;
registered in 1936
as
a voter inscanning their
credentials foi
tending to
affiliate at
the en- the second time, made hisstate
suing
primary
election with the ment
about
the couple&#39;s
Demo

Communist party.

&#39;

Arnaz, however, flatly denied
this, declaring
it was
afalsehood. &#39;
.

"What are

you going

to

do, spread. it all
over the
country? "the
actor, bareIooted and attired in
agray
&#39;bathrobe, demanded. .
When the Herald-Express reporter insisted
that this
news-paper had aphotostatic
copy of

his &#39;wifes
voting
registration,

cratic registration.
AFFIDAVIT ON

_ &#39;FILE

Her 1936 Affidavit of
tration, No.

Regis-

847,584, is on file at

the office of the Los Angeles
County registrar
of voters. He
canceled it Dec. 30, 1938, for nonvoting. .I-- "&#39;
Miss Ball
in 1936 listed her
address
as
1344 North
Ogden
drive.
- -i

A woman-&#39;
witness told the

Arhaz said he
atly
did not be- State Legislature&#39;s19¢?
mittee on
Un-American Active
lieve that, then added:
ities that she had sttendeom
1 ".S0 what?! .

;&#39;Am&#39;aid
,met-the reporter at munlst party&#39;_réW
1inembers,
meetings tor instructions ""111

the front door.
.
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Ania:

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a"Nox_jth~Qgden

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couldn&#39;t possibly
I drive home.

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witness 1éaUHed_th_a&#39;i;_an
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tell

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Following is the full text al
the statement issued last night 5!
Rep. Donald L. Jackson, member
Home Committe on Un-American
Activities, concerning Lucille BallFor many months the House
Committee on Un-American Ac-

tivities has been in possession
.of information
indicating that
Miss Lucille Ball did, on March
19, 1936, register to vote in the
California primary election of
that year, and that she specified
her party affiliation as Communist.
In addition, it has been determined that on the 15th of
September, 1936, Miss Ball was
appointed a member of the State
Central Committee of the Communist Party by one Emil Freed,
a well known functionary of the
Communist Party in the city
and county of Los Angeles, who
was, in 1936, a candidate for
tpublic office on the Communist
-Party ticket.
.- "Since the original informa-

tion cameinto the possessionof
Q18 committee; a-staff
investigator has made
a
careful and
-detailed
investigation
into the
"circumstances
relating to Miss

tained by independent sources
other than the committee, and
the release of such information
has served to spur conjecture
and rumor with respect
to
Miss
Ball and the extent of her association with and activities on
behalf of the Communist Party.
By direction of the Honor- i
able Harold H. Velde of Illinois,
Chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Activities; and following
a
telephonic
poll of a majority"of
the members of the committee
who
could be reached today,
I
am
authorized and directed
by
the
chairman
to
make the following
statement with respect to the
status of the Lucille Ball matter
insofar as the House Committee
on Un-American
Activities
is
concerned.
The committee is departing
from its usual procedures in
this instance to the end that
fact may be separated from
rumor and that the actual
status of Miss Balls association may be presented factually
and officially.
&#39;Ihe
House Committee on
Un-American Activities
is not
unaware of the tremendous responsibility resting upon it to
insure
that
those guilty of participation
in the Communist
conspiracy be exposed whenever and wherever possible. By
the same token, there rests
upon the committeepan obligation to insure that distortion of
available facts be not permitted
and .that rumor not be substituted for the truth in any case.

s affiliation
with
the
Comfor voting pur-

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subsequent
ap-

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giiommunist
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irreparable damage may "result

to Miss Ball unless the full ex-

tent of the committee&#39;s
information
is

disclosed, the com-

mittee has decided to release

to the press and radio&#39;a
sworn
affidavit
given to
a
committee
investigator
by Miss. Ball relating to her registration
asa
Communist Party voter and to
her designation as
a
member
of the State Central Committee
of the Communist Party in -1936. not. -Miss
_ was in at
"Miss Ball has cooperated ance at the co
ntion in
with the committee investigator tion. The then&#39;rma.
in all respects. She has acknowl- friendly
witness,
&#39;
coope
edged her "Communist Party} fully with the committee
registration.
She has denied past investigations of Coi
giving her authority to Mr. nist activity» in California
Freed for her appointment to. testified under oath thz

the Communist State Central 1has
never

met Miss Bell

»
that
he
has no personal lc
edge as to her membersh
the Communist -Party oz
munist Party meeting} or that attendance at the .Comm
she participated in or attended Party state convention in
the meeting of the Communist at which he pre&#39;sided._
Party
State
Central Committee
Other cooperative witn
held in Sacramento in 1936. .
In
an effort to determine who have in the past app
before the committee and
the truth of these statements,
cooperated fully in exposin
the committee investigator has
activitlesfof
the Comm
carried on
a
thorough and care- Party in California, have
ful investigation.
i
interviewedtby
a committe
"Ihe
then-chairman
of the vestigator, and none has
Communist
Party State &#39;
Cen- able to -identify Miss Ball
tral Committee has been inter- party
member
&#39;during
Committee.
.
She has denied that she was
ever in attendance at any Com-

ii

viewed
to determine
whether
or;periodin question,
nor to§
her at any time in any met
of the Communist Party.

r

The prominenceof Miss hall as
an outstanding moving picture
and television artist is secondary us the committee&#39;s
deter-

mination to

and just in

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unusual
procedure
ofcase.557th
releasing
an
affidavit
rather
Miss
Ball.
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than
place
Miss
to
Ball
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lmmedla.
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this
in
instance,
by
the
ave &#39;
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&#39; likewlse
release
certain
of
information
whichled
has
to
awelter
of
committeg
acknowe
Be
- mgeisagzirthenticity
tMr.
confusion
rumor.
and
-Of
their
.spOnsoI:f1hu;I.Hy°activThe
committee,
in
making
dlingfCommutghe
wmle
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the
public
transcript
of Miss Fl-eed&#39;
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ii,
ybfflny
other
reSP¢¢*~
Ball&#39;s
assumes
testimony.
no
position
advocacy.
of requires
However,
iii;
Ball
stated
the
to
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it
is
felt
that
justice
_
.h
t whie
mittee
investigator
t
a
led
E
that the
actiontaken
be and , he-has
no she
personal
know
that
the
facts
available
to
the
izfaPetition
alleged
1SfUl9o%
icommittee
be
made
now
avail,I
signed
.th:1rSe;,!::ic:_1i5m
lablethe
to American
people. have ff?
iDuring
the same
period that C-alifornia
She
Cr1&#39;_&#39;:ln
so
did
at
it Lsestzolhgr
Act,
grandfather,
Miss
registered
Ball
a
memas
the req
berthe
of Communist
Party for
These poillt-5,
inf
purposes
voting,
of same
the
constitute
ets|:1t51;;n°the
posses.
registration
effected
was
by
her
mother,
Mrs.
Desiree
Ball,
mation
_
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P1
d311
sion
tb°ts°&#39;:§g§,t:§§{e§n
of
have
and by
her brother,
Fred H.
of the
Pom d b Miss&#39;
Ball
Ball.
grandfather,
Her
C.
Fred
Hunt,
deceased,
sinceduring
reg- alsoinbah
ers
ac£vro ::ivla.afcEctieavit§"afore
.istered
asaCommunist
the same
period.

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the affidavit
exe
of

opi _.
bvan.
The reverse
side
of
Miss
Ball&#39;s
of
registration
affidavit
¢l-lied
Miss
by
ggiggutoe
gress
able
f°.r
dlsm
tomorrow."
m
-/ she
indicates
that
June
on
1936,
16,
signed
aSponsor
Certificate
i

and radio at 10 a. ___%

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Lucille all:

Wheeler of

secret testimony

before William

the House Com ittoe on Un-

American
in which-P
Activities,
_
she admitted having registered
ash. Communist Party
voter.
AfferMin Ball
stated aha was
appearing voluntarily
and after
the fold llow alto got I|¢r start
oa.a film aetreu at $50 or $75
0week
in Hollywood, the teatilnony in part was no follows:

MR. WHEELER.
When -did
you first register to vote?
&#39;
MISS
BALL. Iguess the first
time Iever did was in &#39;36.
MB. WHEELER.
I would like
to hand you aphotostatic
copy
of -a voters registration
and ask
you if that is your signature.

&#39;
MISS
BALL That
my handwriting.
MB. WHEELER.

looks like
You will

note that the party that you intended to affiliate with
at that
time was the Communist Party.
MISS BALL
In &#39;36?
MB. WHEELER.. Yes.
MISS BALL.
Iguess so.
MB. WHEELER.
You
did
register to
vote then
as aCommunist
or
intending to vote the
Communist Party
ticket?
MISS BALL
Yes.
-MR. WHEELER.
Would you

munist." H
never
said
read the Daily Worker.
ways talked about the
man.
&#39;

that he
He
alworking

He got very confused
in his
latt-er years, when Russia a.nd
who got
togetherBussia and
Germany got
together, and
he
got so he couldn&#39;t
answer our
questions at all then.
And he
would get mad and change the
subject. I-le
never qultecould
find out what had happened to
the working
man after
that, I
guess.
MAID NEVER
STAYED
We were never able to keep
amaid,
although we
paid the
highest prices
we could-afford
or they
were getting
at the
tlmé. My
grandfather would
walk out
into the kitchen .and
see a
maid and
would say,
Well, what is your name? How
much are you getting?
Oh, 20 or 25 dollars a week,"
or whatever
they were
being
paid.
.
And he would say, That is
not aworking
wage. What are
you doing here?

eor

consent.

MR. WHEELER.
-grandfather, Fred

I notice your
Hunt, was

also appointed as a delegate for
the year 1936. Were you aware
of that?
=
MISS BALL.
No. I was not
aware of lt. MR. WHEELER.
Do you
know who could be responsible
for your
name appearing
.on
this document?
&#39;
MISS BALL.
Possibly my

grandfather, Fred Hunt.
MR. WHEELER.
Do you recall if anyone contacted you in

1936 inregard to obtaining your
proxy to vote?
MISS BALL.
No, except my
grandfather. Is
that what
you
mean? &#39;
MR. WHEELER.
Youstated
that you were appointed
without your knowledge or consent,
is that right? ._
.
MISS BALL.
That is right.
DID NOT ATTEND MEET
MR. WHEELER.
I assume
you did not attend the meeting
of the State Central Committee
at Sacramento.

MISS BALL.

I didn&#39;t
even

know there
was
one. I still don&#39;t
know what it means.
MR. WHEELER.
Do you recall whether
or not you were
contacted by any individual
to

obtain from
proxy at

you your

the Central

voting
Commit-

tee Meetingin_Sacramento?
MISS BALI.
Never.
MR. WHEELER.
I would

And after a few times of that, to refer to the
report

like

of mg un.

you know,
they would
leave.
ggtnto
detail
and
explain
the
That is just one instance.
_kground,
the reason
you

rqoted or registered to
Communist or
person
-tended to
affiliate
ACommunist Party?

_KISS

BALL. It

American activities in California
for the year 1943,
and
refer to
page 127 of that document, which
is aportion
of an affidavit submitted by
Rena
M. Vale.
In this affidavit she
has admitted she
was
one time amember of the Communist Party and
WANTED BETTER
WORLD
how she beHe
was
just a fanatic on bet» sheds discussing
~,
terlng the world. That
is as far came amember."

He
was
always talking
to the
vote as a
who in- garbage man early in the morning, or anybody doing any kind
with the
of amenial
task,
he
would say,
Why
are
you
doing
that!
Why
was our
you
doi n g something
Hunt.
He aren&#39;t
else?
.

tjgwanted
to,
us
and
we justaomethlng
to
please him.
dfather, Fred

Jcum: intend to vote that way.

recall,
I didn&#39;t;
"
;} &#39;1-lly
grandfather started years

I

That within 5few days atasweknewgandthatiswhywe
ter my mire qpuegaoa.-m
loin the Party
could
endorse
at all.
it
knew,

};,{;jgo&#39;_he was
aSocialist as
_asI
can rember. He
is

ather
we ever
Mr. Wheeler;
;;.ialy ather.
My father died been amember
was tiny, before my bro- istParty? -

Have you ever was made,
Ireceivedanotioe
of
the
Commun- to attenda
1. &#39;. Ogden Drive,
Hollywood: alhorn. He
was
my broMISS BALL
No, not to my
thowh it has a_ W994. =11-_
father.
. ;,,._,.;
knowledge. -.
.
.
note, melelyaequest»;
rrooxnanm Y_w0B&#39;-I£1i1B&#39;
Mr. Wheeler.
I-lave you ever
been asked tobecome a&#39;.mem-

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mu.r..; mss
m._._
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imam warm,

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ber of the C0mmunist_Ba.rty?;_,

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31-belong asI have known and ha ever_-attend anynie¬tlnl8.-Chat

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iwere

Communist Party

meetings?

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No.
BALL
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drive? - .
bemuse y
got over our
MISS BALL.
No, I
know
heads and we didn&#39;t
do
anything
nothing of that. I don&#39;t
believe
butconsider it anuisance, but it is true.
as ~a dad, and he got into his
MR. WHEELER-I-low
old
reventies, and it became so vital were you in 1936?
to_hlm that&#39;the
world must
be
MISS BALL.
I am 42
now;
right 24 hoursa day, all over it,

and hewas trying his damnedest
to do the best he could for everybody and especially the
work-

Iwould
like to introduce the
aidavit
of registration
as Ball exhibit
tory worker.
He never
lost
a No. 1, registration No.
847584.
chance to do what he
considered
The document
referred to
was marked Ball exhibit
No. 1
bettering their
positions.
and was received in evidence.!
FEABED ANOTHER srnoxn
MR. WHEELER.
This attiThat was tine, and we
went
registration is
signed
along with it wherever we could. davit of
by Lucille
Ball and
dated the
of March,
1936.
ous because my
position
in the ninteenth day
Have you ever known an inao-called capitalist
world was
dividual by
the name
oi
Emil
Freed?
,to
reconcile the
two. We
MISS BALL.
I never heard
&#39;dldnt arguewith him
very
innch because
he had
had a the name before, to my knowiedge, as I recall.
bouple of strokes and if he
got
MR. WHEELER.
Have you
overly excited,
why, he would ever known
an individual
by
the name
of Jacob
or Jack
have another one.
Breger?
; So finally there
came
apoint
MISS BALL.
Not until Iread
fwliere my brother was 21, and it today.
hewss going to see that Freddie
MR. WHEELER.
Are you
registered to
help theworking
aware that
you were
a meminan, which
-was,
in his idea then, ber of the Central
Committee
the Communist
Party. At
that of the Communist Party
tor the
lime itwasn&#39;tathing
to hide year 1936?
behind doors, to be amember of
MISS BALL.
Was I
aware
thit party.
As I recall, because of this he before you told me, you mean?
MR. WHEELER.
Yes.
inuenced us.
We
thought
we
MISS
BALL.
N0.
wanted to do him a favor.
We
CODDHTTEE
tliought we could make him hap- NAMED TO
py.- I
at no
time
intended to
MR. WHEELER.
Well, I
hand
you a docuvote that way. And I remember would like to
Appointment of
discussing it
with my
mother, ment entitled
the State Central
how Icould
register and make Members of
at Sacrahing happyt When I go behind Committee Meeting
acsrtain to
vote, nobody knows mento in the Year 1936." It is
stamped Communist
Party,"
who I vote for.
,
_ Is
also
conidered it a per- and this document discloses that
by
-.-aolla-l victory at the time, that Emil Freed was adelegate
the
State Central
the
entire family
to nomination to
the Communist,
.&#39;~.._,&#39;1&#39;e@;ter.
didn&#39;t influence
He
as Committee oi
at
any time to vote; at Party for that year. And he ap_i{1eai;,he didn&#39;t
influence me. pointed three individuals as delegates.
_
Those appointed, according to
the
maid

Lucile
showed
mu,
us !
to loan

her home

munist Party

fact, and

for aOom-

new members

stated she was glad

&#39;

class; .
24.
4_
That the
instructor introduced himself as Sidney MarINTRODUCED
AS EVIDENCE
tin, but I later knew him by

ht, man; that ls, from the gar-_ MR. WI-IEELER.
bage man,

va1&$#l=ures, books
and
other objects to establish that

in the

Kitchen,
studio
tbe- worker,
the

Fometimes
gotalittle
it ridicu-

cnetw good
and&#39;it
alittle was

§,;.b1§bmmnwas-,_waono&#39;
an

the name of Sidney Davidson,
I
name: I.
That there
were about
which
he
stated
was members
his true r
seven
or eight
other
of this
class, but
the only
names I recall are
those of
Herb Harris,
an
actor,
whom F
Iencountered
from time
to
time within
the Communist
Party, and who took part in
the play
The Blackguard,

which ran

for several years

in Loa Angeies around
1988
and 1939; and Libby Jacobson,
who, in
1939, was active in
consumer cooperatives in Los

Angeles.
Doyou have
any knowledge
of any meeting; held
in youi
home, Miss Ball?
MISS
BALI.
None
whaiao
ever.
.
MR. WHEELER.
Are you acquainted with Rena Vale?
&#39;
MISS
BALL.
I never
heard
the name before in "my life.
MR. WHEELER.
Are you acquainted with or have you ever
been acquainted
with Sidney
Martin or Sidney Davidson?
MISS
BALL.
No, sir, I never
heard the name.
MR. WHEELER.
Are you acquainted with or have you ever
been acquainted
with Herb
Harris!
MISS
BALL.
I never
heard
the name.
MR. WHEELER.
Are you ac-

quainted with Libby Jacobson}
MISS
BALL

that name.

Inever

&#39;

92

beard

I &#39;

mt

UNAWABE HOME-USED

MR..
WHEELER.

_Dof you

I"_~"-Igje inuenced
us..to. give a the document, a.re_ Jacob
Breger, know. .Whether -or _;not- your

I_Iall;of

thought towheth-

always

decided he ; was and Lucille

822 North Orange drive;
Fred
§?=j&#39;e_tZbe
mm, orwrong,
was and
Hunt,
1344-NorthOlgden
the ring!

_I

he Ogden drive.

Ball,

44
North
.

gram:l.tather,¢-Fred Hunt,
held
meetings at
the
home? &#39;,

drive,
DSS,B1;92LL._-Not"-to_ our
knowledge ever,

.,

a-as-re

and he was al-

welook
about__ditlnta_ee_rn
Now, Iwould like to hand you ways
in .;be,1>naottcal1for", tins conn- this documentand have you give back now, we1_nat rememberat
any time-&#39;-be
waaievaralcna, beany explanatlpnethat you
&#39;a_ad
-paa&#39;aaniI§_all;o¢er
the
am he an ma two strokes
MISS BALL. I_&#39;have
-go
e
giilvo-Yeii-Ylln Planation.-.1. haven:.11,
&#39;tht lived
an
that "for
i 1-

;_ MR; WI-IZEELER.He consid-Ipeed. 1&#39;lM
.92~&#39;:s:sw
svorking man&#39;s
party?

WIS

don&#39;t
imow_zwberc .;lt;-came

thatisali.
&#39;
GBANDFATKBB NAIR!!

a
I_.

&#39;.

-£7:-Idem .

never heard
of

Emil

<

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.- VP
< :"
92&#39;.i.92

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V!-

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we
.lInew
Lilac

ii.
92.

4!..i ..and
Bag,
iscloses
shethat

sembly 57th
District, to
be
voted for
at_the primary
election to be held on the 25th day
with the Communist partyon
1936, hereby assert
the twelfth
day of June, 1936. of August,
as follows:
What relation is Desiree Ball to
"My knowledge
of the
said
you?
Emil Freed is sufficient to warMISS BALL.
My mot-her.
rant my urging
his
election to
MR. WHEELER.
Do
you
of
member of the Asknow whether or not she was the office
District
ever amember of the Commun- sembly Fifty-seventh
and, in my opinion, he is fully
lat party?
also ne
red to vote as aperson wintended
to affiliate

al
rights
they e&#39;
g what
up for now. Is
it

-1

means? .
DID ISIGN
I&#39;I?. ~
MR. WHEELER.
Well, it
means more or less like this:
An act defining criminal
syn-

dicalism and sabotage, "proscrib-

ing certain
acts and methods
in connection therewith and
in
pursuance~ thereof and providing penalties
and punishments
MISS BALI.
Not to
my qualified, mentally, morally and therefore."
physically, for
the said office
knowledge.
MISS BALL. If Ihad ever
and should be elected to fill
it.
MR. WHEELER.
I have
a
have never
I am
a
qualified elector
of Los seen that, Iwould
second photostat here, avoter&#39;s
it? . .
Angeles county
and
Iam regis- signed it. Did I-sign
registration, signed
by Fred E. tered as affiliated with
MR. WHEELER.
Well, the
the ComHunt, who also intended to afindicates
munist party and am not at this voters registration
filiate with
the Communist
did sign it. In
other
time a signer of any other cer- that you
party.
words, when a petition issigned
tificate nominating
any other
MISS BALL.
Fred E. Hunt?
each signature,
to
candidate for
the above named they check
MR. WHEELER.
Well, it
ascertain if
the individual
is a
office,
or
in
case
there
are
sevlooks
like
an "E."
What ishis
When it
is
eral places to be filled in
the registered voter.
middle initial?
individual is
a
above named office, Ihave not ascertained the
MISS
BALL.
Fred C.
signed more certificates t ha n registered voter they mark on
MR. WHEELER.
I-red C.
this
there are places to be filled in his voter&#39;s registration,
Hunt, rather.
This document is
particular number,
164-F,
which
the above named
office."
dated the twelfth day
of June.
like
to refer
to the indicates the person who regis1936, andalso shows
he
changed I would
sign that
petition.
second page of this document, tened did
the vote to
Democrat
11-1840.
under line 23, and there appears However, Ihave been unable to
MR. WHEELER.
I have
a
actual petition.
the signature
of Lucille
Ball, locate the
third document
here, aphotoMISS
BALL
Because you reg1344
Ogden
Drive,
and
occupastat of
an Affidavit
of Regissympathy
with
tion, artist.
It is dated 6-16-36. istrate you are in
ltration, bearing the. signature Is that your signature
indicat- all this indicating!?
of Fred I-I. Ball, who intended
MR. WHEELER.
It would
in-to affiliate
with the
Commun- ing!?
dicate as such. I mean,
if
aperMISS
BALL.
I
would
say
it
ist Party in the ensuing elec- was.
son signs aparticular
document
tion
of
1936. It
is also dated
the Criminal
MR. WHEELER.
Do you re- requesting that
the twelfth
day of June,
1936.
Syndicalism Act
be removed
the document?
What relation
isFred
H. Ball call signing
DON! RECALL
. from the statutes, it would seem
to-you?
to indicate to me that you would
MISS BALL.
No, but Irecall
MISS BALL.
Brother.
at that time doing what I could be against the Criminal SyndiMR. WHEELER.
Do
you
to appease grandpa, and this is calism Act.
whether or
not he
was
SHE DOESN&#39;T
KNOW
just part of it.
At that time it
ever Ia member of the Commun- didn&#39;t probablyseem very imMISS
BALL.
Well,
anyway, I
its Party?
portant to appoint this man.
don&#39;t know
what it means.
MISS BALI. Not
to my
MR. WHEELER.
You were
MR. WHEELER.
You will
knowledge, nor to his.
note what
Iread
to you. that previously contacted
by
myself,
-MR.
-&#39;WI-IEELER.
Where is
for the
House
before signing
the document it an investigator
i-brother presently resid- states that you know the man. Committee on Un-American AcY_
.
and he is morally, physically and tivities? .
&#39;=-.-.na1.1..
.- Scottsdale,
-&#39;
Yes. _
_. r
* MISS BALL
" &#39;1&#39;-.=".92.
,¢ :>.
_ mentally qualified.
MR. WHEELER.
You recall
MISS BALL
It is something I
3,
1952?signed without looking at it, or U the dateas April
MISS BALL.
Yea
_&#39;
._~3NlR._&#39;
Do
you
Ilooked at it, it didn&#39;t.aoem
like
- MR.WHEELER. Are yqu ac.&#39;11¢.1¢r.
or nbt. he
has abig thing atthe time.
igmssated by the MR. .WHEELER. I believe quainted with the Committee
Y_.u.1
of the First Ar_nendment?_
&#39;
. .... "ant. qt} w.vi";@.:¢=.1¢vi.<=r
your_grandfathers signature
ap-

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hint of
that

I was o _a mind to_.try to
WOBKINGF , ICTUBE
.-Then I
do something that would please l MISS B
suspicion, &#39;
the
investigation Daddy;
It
just didn&#39;t
seem like have no knowledge
,of.&#39;signinK
probably went en, but you an important, awful thing to do, it. However, I do recall I was
didn&#39;t
retain your emnloyrnent like it does these days. But, to at
a
studio, and I wasworking
MR. WHEELER. _I notice now my knowledge, I didnt ever see on
a
picture and
I
got
a
call in
that your mother and your the first part of this certificate the afternoon. I dont know who
brother and -.grandfather all I signed.
calledme. I assume.;nowI did
registered on the 19th day.of
ASKS MEANING
then-it was the Screen Actors
March. Is there any signicance
MR. WHEELER. Are you ia- Guild, but
I
can be wrong. I
Ito that?
_- miliar with the words_ or the don&#39;t
know who called
me
now.
}.
I DIDNT G0 that
was
phrase Criminal Syndicalism? It was something
,- MISS BALL See,I didn&#39;t
go. MISS BALL. No, but it is through
a
union or the studio
[They were trying to recall to my pretty. What does it mean? _
mind where we might have rega
set and hold up
MR.
WHEELER.
Criminal send me off
iistered
and
I couldn&#39;t
remem- Syndicalism?
production until I got back. It
ber. Isn&#39;t
this what he is talkMISS BALL. What does it had nothing to do with me. ,
ing about? I. couldn&#39;t
remem- mean?
I got the call to go to
a
radio
ber having gone down where
MR. WHEELER.
According
to station. As
I
remember, it was
they said they went. They said the voter&#39;s
registration for the M-G-Mit
may not have been.
they went way downtown,
year 1936, the reverse part of it, I remember an executive exwhere Grandpa. wanted
us
to you signed a petition 164-F. This cused
me
and sent
me
to thls
go, way downtown near Main particular petition was for the broadcast.
street. I don&#39;t
even remember Repeal of the Criminal SyndiI got down there and said
going down that far.
I
really calism Act in California.
&#39;
- "What am
I
supposed to do?
racked my brain over
a
17-year
MISS BALL
What does
it
She said, Dorothy Petersen,
period and all
I
remember was mean?
whoever she is-she is ill.
something like
a
garage and
a
MR. WHEELER.
The Com- We have to go on the air.
flag, like
a
voting day. They munists were taken to court
PETITION ON OKI.ES_
said it didnt tie
up
for regis- and tried for criminal syndicalI haven&#39;t
seen her in years; I
- tratdon.
I
can&#39;t
explain&#39;it.
But ism, anddon&#39;t
know her.
that bears me out,
I
didn&#39;t
go
MISS BALL. And I signed She said, Will
you read
on that
trip.
I don&#39;t
know where something else?
this?"
I registered.
I
would have said,
MR. WI-IEELED. you signed It was a long petition, or
ifI
hadnt talked to you last
this petition to take the Crim- whatever you call them, as I
year, that I voted. You said you
inal Syndicalism Act
off
the As
I recallI
am not
had no record of my voting. I statutes of the State ot Cali. recall.
sure of thisit
was about the
would have said I voted when
I
Iornia.
Okies upstate California, Fresno
went in there.
I
remember feelBALL.
I did; that is, or some place, about admitting
ing very foxy about the thing, MISS
the Okies.
I
read it. They
I
because
I
registered. We had a without my knowledge. May
see the signature?
thanked me and they sent me
very bad feeling we had done
.
Unfortun- back to work.
that. I always felt I would be _MR. WHEELER.
I
don&#39;t
know how long after
ately,
they
have
been
destroyed,
all right if I didnt vote it, just
that that
it
was that
I
wasthose particular petitions.
to appease Grandpa.
calied downtown in an FBI ofMISS BALL.
By
whom?
. &#39;
SHOWS
SHE VOTED
MR. WHEELER. They are re- fice and asked why I did it. Ap- MR. WHEELER.
The Attidevit. of Registration disclosestained a few years, under law, parently, it was wrong. It was
my first knowledge it was
you
voted
in the primary for and they can be destroyed.
wrong.
NICE TO DADDY WEEK
the year 1936. That would be, I
~I had no answer at all, beassume, in June. However, you
MISS
BALL.
Was this the
done
it
of my
did notvote in the general elec- same time we were being nice cause I hadn&#39;t
own volition.
I
had been sent
[tlon.
&#39; _
to Daddy week?
.
there.It didn&#39;t
seemwrongto
BALL
That could have MR. WHEELER.
It was in go some place the studio had
lébeen -what
I
did there that the year 1936. However,
I
do sent you.
_"
havea photostat
of
a sample
HAD N0 REASON,
-&#39;
.WeH
now,

wouldn&#39;t
have
feltcompelled
to}

copy of the petition which was
10. 1936, and this

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ondated. July

Itriedtoexplain
whylhad
done it.
I
had no reason except
e reverseside discloses
that
. ,_ signed two petitionsfor the particular petition was circu_.
lated by the Conforms Confer- Ihadbeencalled. "»_;

4936;

the"Freed nominat-

MR. WHEELER. How long

of
the Criminal
Fegs-peti&#39;tion
"&#39;
tor -the-57th As- encefor Repeal
FBI!
SyndicalismAct at 68 I-Iaixht ago-did you go -to the
&#39;--..3:District,&#39;
.or, rather, it sueeltr
I*hava.no idea.
L Calif. I have no ldcswlien
d1 this
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get
asked to do these
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it ing to appease anold man. But .41
things. I again was called in at
there has never
been
any
was important
at the time. But
thought of belonging or wantthe last minute.
I was always conscious
oi the
ing to belong to the Communist
tact I could go just so tar to &#39;
I had
nothing to
do with
5Party.
&#39;
whatever it
was. I didn&#39;t know
MR".
WHEELER.
.-I have no
what I was doing, but you as- _go any farther.
int
&#39;
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FOR ROOSEVELT
sumed at the time,
when
you
for
your
co-op
ation.
_
In
those days that
was
not a
are called by aunion
or one of
-;-if
;big, terrible thing to do. It was
yonr_I dont know who called almost as terrible to
{#9: &#39;
be a Reme. I know both
times I was
publican in those days. I have
never
been
too civic-minded and
called to replace someone.
MR. WHEELER.
Did you dis- certainly never
political-minded
in my
life.
_
cuss that
material today
with
Since _I got any
feelings on
the FBI
or did they question
the subject
at all,
we went
you regarding your voter&#39;s
reg- maybe alittle
strongly Demoistration? &#39;
_ cratic one year and we
got
into
MISS BALL.
No.
That was
trouble doing that. That is when
apparently lust
something I
Roosevelt was
still alive.
We
read on the radio
I shouldn&#39;t were always
very much
for
have. Idont know. &#39;
Roosevelt and
did everything
MR. WHEELER. Do you have that Mr.
and Mrs.
Roosevelt
anything in addition you would asked us to do, as all of Hollylike to add tor the record?
wood, or as most of
Hoywood
MISS BALL. Iam very happy f was doing.
to have this opportunity
to~disHe was the only President I
cuss all the things
that have:
had ever known. It
was awoncropped up, that apparently I derful thing to get out and help
have done wrong. Iam
aware. him with
his March
of
Dimes
of only one thing I did that was
or bond tours during
the war,
wrong, and
that at
the time
and we
were
very busy.
Never
-wasnt wrong,
but apparently
in my
lite
have I had any other
now it is, and that was
regisfeeling than
the Communists
tering because my grandfather were wrong,
that
anybody
in
wanted us
to. I
at
no
time
this town would dare to think
thought it was the thing to go,
oi changing any of it or comnor, did I ever intend to vote in
plaining about
what they
had
the presidential election, Iguess
is
just
the
most
ridiculous
thing
it was at that time, I dont know.
To my knowledge I didnt vote, Ihave ever heard 0!.
I certainly was never in symhut I-.did.register.
Since then
the Dmytryks,
I
il _-have never done anything pathy with
cant remember any of
the
other
knowingly against, the United
names.
States. g I
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Thats what C-BS-TV v.p.Harry Ackerman said yesterday,following
a Communist-labeling maelstrom involving the networks top star,
Lucille Ball.

Ackerman said public reaction

thus far

/00-4/7°:

has been over-

whelmingly withthe actress,
given aclean billof healthby the House
-American Activities

mmunist voting

Committee after

registration _in

it was

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1936.

ucy,"
starring
Miss
Ball and
her
Philip
Mor&#39;ris,_
sponsor
ofte__r_iati
n&#39;s1 No.
video show, I L ve_
husband, Desi Arnaz, has also exylate
afternoon Friday,
af er
Jackson said
the Committee
pressed company
as being
_m- th first story
was broken by
e would continue its investigation
of
pletely satisfied,
and is in Lucy&#39;s
L.
.
Herald-Express, Miss B ll hiss Ball
since no case is e r
corner," Ackerman
said. Miss Ball
"g given aclean bill
of
hea.th c sed."
_
has
been
flooded with
wires from
b_y theHouse Un-American
Activi- A transcript of the interrogati n,
all over
the country,
with the
t t
ties Committeewhich emphasized,r leased Saturday, mentions
fans saying
theyre on
her side,
in an
unprecedented action, that aadmitted
former Communist,
states Ackerman.
there is
no
indication
that
Miss
Rena M. Vale, told the State Unwas amember
of the
American Activities
T e n ne y!
Vl"eve had
very few
phone Ball ever
Save for
the Committee that
calls. and virtually
all
were
fav- Communist Party.
she had attended
orable. The
people seem to feel
potential seriousnessof the situa- aCP meeting at
Miss
Ball&#39;s home
rapid-fire events
of the in 1936. Her testimony
this thing is silly, not serious, and tion, the
indicated
weekend assumed an opera bouffe that the meeting may have been
they all love Lucy, Ackerman enthused.
quality that might
have
been takenconducted by the actress grandThe CBS-TV
exec, who said he right out of an I Love Lucy" father, but Miss Ball said she had
knew of Miss Balls testimony, on
script. .
no knowledge of any such
meeting.
Sept.4, 1952. before House
Un_Miss Ballsdifficulties, the Com- The information concerning Miss
mittee
disclosed,
stemmed
from
American ActivitiesCommittee inBalls voting
registration was
a
efact
that she wanted to please matter of public record, Jackson
"estigator William
Wheeler since
er late grandfather, Fred
C. Hunt. pointed out, and the Committee has
ast Fall,
said
that
the
recor is
was at his request that the act- known for some months that
ow clear
for
anyone to read, nd
indehat the network is
satisfied, ust
ss, her mother and her brother, pendent sources were checking on
registered to
vote as Commun&#39; the
ts situation. The Committees insare
Rep. Donald
Jackson nd
vest gation thus far had not lrWheeler that
Miss Ball
is
not_ nd
in
he
1936
primary
elections.
never has.been-a
member of the
ran dany publicity, he added. he
tudy of the voting
records eCo ittee
member added
that
he
Communist Party.
ve
ls
that
Miss
Ball
voted
in
t
t
He said
he had
discussed the
was satisfied
there had
been no
ele
tion.
presumably
on
the
Comcase with CBS toppers in NY,
leakage of
information fr
m
mu ist ticket since, after her registhat
reaction
seemed to
be
Committee sources but pointed out
tration declaration,
aballot
from
was
nothing that
could be
that party
would
have beenhanded there
done about
publication by
indeto her.

and
the

First I
Love Lucy
the season was lmed

lm of
as sched-

Information gathered
b_v the
Committee included
the fact
that
Miss Balls name subsequently was

uled Friday night before an au-

dience that
applauded Lucille
Ball and Desi Arnaz who asked
that the public study
the
tran- f
script
of
the actress interrogation by the House Un-American
Activities Committee
before
forming any
opinions.
CBS sources
said
Miss
Ball
had received hundreds of
tele-

s me
throughout

State Central

p ess has been generally fair.
e

Committee but

this

public record.

Rep. Jackson&#39;s
press conference

at which he gave Miss Ball aclean
health was comprehensively
shown on KNXT, CBS-TV
station
here,
Friday
night in
an astute

was done, she declared,without her
of piece of public relations work by
any other affiliation with the Com- the web.
&#39;

evidence
i knowledge. There is no
munist Party.

In calling
press
conference

release details

an unprecedented
Friday evening to
of Miss

Both the L.A. Times and the
L.A.
Examiner devoted over afull
page

yesterday to carrying the

full

Ball&#39;s in- transcript of
Miss
Balls
testimony
before the
House investigator.It
terrogation by Committee investigator Wheeler, Rep. Donald L. w svery evident that the comp te

fans.

the country.

was in

put up for the Communist Party&#39;s
bill of

grams expressing good wishes
rom video

pendent sources
of material which

Jackson R., Cal.! emphasized that

e the Committee has no intention of

a eterribly
pleased at
the at itude of
the trade
and the pre s,
who
have
offered their
support,
he added.

calling Miss Ball as awitness.

He

said there have been no identifications of
Miss Ball
by any of the

cooperative witnesses and that or-e
such witness,
aformer
chairm
othe
Communist Central
Co ittee, testified
that he had nev r
et the actress and had no kno -

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that this might
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as pa

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said Luc

ing of politics in 1936 andregis-

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Election Registration

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only to

any career. Iwas z
phase her grandfather, Fred didn&#39;t have
Hunt,
who
was a zealous So- Stock girl at RKO. Down in thi

Won&#39;t Prove
Damaging toHer Career

small -printit said
Ihad
It
cialist.
the omce
itthe;
Asked why she registered as sweep out
a Communist. then, and not as wanted me to."
How old
were you then?
aSocialist.
Lucy twisted
her
handkerchief and
looked conI dont
evein know how Oil
Iam now," snapped 42-year-oiz
fused. I
Lucy.
"
l just dont know. Ive for-

iswiggriming
of their
Chatsworth
pool
home yesterranch
iucille Ball

and Desi Arnaz faced the press beside the

da iand said theywere gladthe truth was outabout Lucys

eeting affairwith Communistpolitics 17years aEo:"""l--

gotten completely. Inever even

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tExpress

Gratitude

géessed
gratitud
an
de

heard the
word Communism
it Both Desi and Lucy - it
T°19Ph0nes Home
from Daddy.
Iheard
Eugene
s and
her ,costarring h _L_U¢§&#39;
the quiet
Said inve_i- Debs and Iheard Socialism, but lartwarming
b dwere interviewed at
ho
reception an
Ll
g3lU0n_ which exploded l _t Inever heard Communist.
ience of 300 fans gave th
tr
athe
House
Un-American
Desi characterized
Lucy&#39;s Friday night when they lm&#39;c
tivities Committee
released the
grandfather as a lovable old an I Love Lucy-sequence
foi
transcript of
Cher secret testi- estigawr f.°r the HOUR man who only wanted to do October release.
mony beforeit. &#39;
icommmee w11ham___Whe°1E1!.
good and
make everybody
hap- "I -was pretty numb,
saic
Lucy. But
Iwas thrilled the
the home
and
_Thefull
transcript
starts in telephoned Arnaz
way the audience acted. It was
adioining columns on Page 1 of

wfevekthe
in public
eye beg
n

M93? H80
last April;
when

ps~.

today&#39;s Times.!

m
-_~ -1

;Grandpa was
awonderful
saicé he_would
like tointerijo-1

3gate her.

Q-,d guy," he said. H8 k35

about &#39;73
or 7_5.He h_ad
a Vd

sensational. Unbelievable.
More

than you could
hope
for."
"1 got news for you,"
ntgéi
Condence Expressed
I interrupted.
She said there has not beer
ltieart.
I-Ie
died
a
b
o
u
t
th
kee
I
investigated
Miss Ball,
the red-haired
star|
;one bitter
note in
the public

&#39;
heem! Icall up the FBI. Isay years later.
He wanted everyb°dY in me Iaction.
Who is
this Wheeler?
They
and
get more
is
a man name world to be happy
jstir over
herregistration as
a tol me there
_9211&#39;<-rdin
the by
thousan
lat
{Communist in
1936 would not. Wheeler. all right_ but Ishould money. He was alwaystalking . he studio, and
there ha
int
about
the
working
classes,
but
damage her career.
i ask to see his credentials.
none
dissenting vote,
nyhe
never
mentioned
the
wordi
Lucy said
Wheeler visited
Hurt me?
she said.
I havei
where. .
Communism.
,
her.
more. faith in
the
American; the house and talked to
"When Iwas courting Lucy,
"He asked
only a few quespeople than that.
Ithink
any;
Lucy was
time YOU give the American tions, she said. "There was no Imeet the family.
lad the wholething has cop
Then he said, always late when Icome for
people the truth theyfre with sworn testiinonjv.
Grandpa, he use to
&#39;,l&#39;m satised
there&#39;s nothing her. So
_y0u.". . _ ,
the editorials
from the
here.
Thank
you veigyiIad
iMiss Ball, toldthatrecords;widng
&#39; aily
Worker.
She said she has never eve
much. Youll
probably nevdrl
showed .she&#39;1had
not/only reg-~&#39;
met Rep.
Donald L.
Jackso
this
again. "
.
hstered .-asa.Communist but heér of
Don&#39;t She
Argue,
SaysI who
has
stated emphatical
galso. ._voted "the Communist
Naked why, then,
the
investiI used to tell Lucy,
Lets
g t
that Miss
Ball,
was
never
ticket in
I936,
declared
she gation was revived, Lucy said: out of
here,,but
she tol
me member of
the
Communist Pa
"That&#39;s their
business. When
dont argue with him. She ty or
involved in
Communi
Mr. Wheeler
came back, Iwas
pected him to
drop
dead any activities.
glad to
see
him. If he had any minute.
All Iknow
is Isaw his pi
p nt.
One stepped foiwar ,&#39;
questions he
wanted to
ask, I
After we got married." Desi i
t dLucy
she had voted aft
wanted to answer them.
.went on, Grandpa used
to go
the said. He&#39;spretty
a
g t
-~in&#39;theprimary election,
,Cuban-born Desi
agreed.
into the kitchen and talk to the
. Qugfh she had failed to vo !
Anytime
there
are
rumors
» &#39;Holds Back Tears
Q
i1!_-&#39;thefo1lowingelec-i
general
of
any
kind it&#39;s
their duty
to cooks.

Of TVs "I Love

&#39;sh_<-1
was
condent

Lucy, saidi

the current

- -They
tell me
telegrams

iMiss Ball
insisted she
ti}:

£it.
asked
the
em We
to
bring
out."
it beg

ta:§>luidnt remember
voting at.

-There.
were
Ipressagentsi

1

fure inthe morning
pape

&#39;oking g

-".-Bkao.~sa1dIJ&#39;

investigate," he

said.
So

ad,- doesnt happen
Ysélieslff-i
= wui-Y :i.v-°t- happened here
in Cuba!"

it
what it

.=<.-,--1»; §i<mj-nygssiae

- Lucy
explained why
neither
she nor
Desi had
made any
public statement
during the
If-&#39; "-1.11?
Igreen /.ca.n_vas__
yacht
.--*_siunder;
trees
jpesgde year and a halt that her brief
po"tical past
had been
und r
7&#39; 85-1Z!1$ti¢~?pQQl.-which
&#39;Desi_h=im92
.
&#39;
fliied-_
-&#39;
She -Yiwere
&#39;
pink in stigation.
_hey
told
us
not to
talk
__.1!&#39;.5l8¢1.§8=i3l!d
&#39;-gmbroié,
fan»
she said. They
sa
&#39;" -@~Whibe.gskjgbioose:use th e ie,was
no
reasonto ta
to anybody.
.. ,
~ »*~*>."=!.%"aY

&#39; s*1.~
and I-.v¢y._w sidew-

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*31&#39;i.i!
<.1.!92l8ht,.-WM" up
X

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"$l181,.lS89211Z&#39;}&#39;_.f8¢.].§_-92a_§
.asgqnjf . _Z -,
. .-_

" How much money you mak-

ing, he ask. The cook say$20

For quite

, -.of.unewspapermq;.-gam?

awhile

Lucy a

Desi_..__kissed.on
herthe chee

e,
we
couldnt gure
out w
fromtime to
time and
mu
we couldn&#39;t
keep a cookin
teredi &#39;<t
1 1&#39;
&#39; - &#39;
house. .
.
This has been terrible, te
ribie." "
I
n
signature on
a
certicate
.Whiie
Lucy
was
prettying
u
m_
behalf of
Emil
Freed a.C0
iortbe interview
Desi took
candidate for, the i *in;the pool. Heclimbed ot
munist Party
w
, -dripping and cool.

Lucy was
asked about
bin

State
Assembly
in June,
19366. ml,
..yesm_day
one
mm
t
Her big eyesaimed .an.SOSAn
.

911- 6 -barrage -on ,questions.i&#39;

Two orthree times
duri;

the interview
Lucy&#39;s sauce
eyes watered
up but
she &#39;he
&#39;noney,&#39;say.
Grandpa
The cook her tears.
Lest "anyone
thin
&#39; uit.
.
they -took
the
situation lightlj
a week. You should make more

__, I 1
,Cu-on

ou

hottest

been
.aJll1.Yi&#39;
-i _"8_f6_ll>il,1@.8d
wt/l.i;~:.an&#39;
&#39;-, fe
M? 7&#39; _ tknowhow manyeed
__

i--&#39;5
" it --the
.¥_1st_~q&#39;p1;_ple
of. -day"5
-we; ftiiibbins her: »-p &#39;_
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red MW, r

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uid.

wanna te1l.you.&#39;Ihlvi

rried to

, 5&#39;.

"1.

b, 0-2.

that time

know, Desi, said a

&#39;_-__>;=.:

.-

days of
the year? 1

.,,,I; t.ii11in&#39;.me!"

t! Des

you 18 years
you have

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one. _em
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#11:.-irougii his
been aSocialist,

life a

as far

back a

Eugene V. Debs, &#39;and.he
we

in sympathy
withthe
workm
man as long as Ihave
knowr
and he took the Daily Workei
Itnever
meantmuch to
ur
because he was so radical 0
the subject that he~pressed"hi

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by
Hou_§ge_=Comim|tttee
-,&#39;Iestimony Television
of
Star

92,~._-as-_

long-have
I-low
licille Ball concerning herregi-&#39;---neeler:
been engaged as an actress.
ration as

aCommunist

in

youf Rented

Miss Ball: Since 33, Iguess;

6was released yesterday
by

Her House

§Wheeler: Whoowned.that point alittle too much,actual];

residence?

--f

&#39;32&#39;33.
or
p. Donald
L. Jackson
R1
{Miss Ball: We
rented
1. 1
Wheeler: What is your edu- doirt remember
.Cal., of the House
Un-Ameriwho own
92
it.
cational
background?
ican Activities
Committee.
Wheeler: When.did you st
Miss Ball:Just
school, high
register to vote?
Release of the transcript&#39;fol- school.

ilowed
the

Miss Ball: Iguess the &#39;,rst
got into his 70s, and it&#39;_beCa

sensational disclo- Wheeler: Are you under sub-

sure that the red-haired actress
had registered
to vote the Com,munist Party
ticket 17
years
&#39;ago, -when
she was
24 years

old.

Iam

avoter&#39;sregistration and.
Miss Ball:

high school?

l92&#39;o,
Iwas
legged
publication,
for
as
tle
York working.
ac
ess
requested, to
preseit

Wheeler: Youvwill

»The
transcript was
ayailable by William
A.

like

note
that

the Communist Party.

-

{Miss Ball:
In f3G?
,9292&#39;heeler: Yes.
-

[Miss Ball:
Iguess
so.

in
Net

.

>Explains

Wheeler: How long have you
Mia
Bail:
status
factually
an
been aresident
here?
oicially.
,g
Miss Ball:

That looks

the party that you intended to
afliate with at that time was

since you lef

shool?
Miss Ball:

r-

ask

my handwriting.

even

graduate.
Wheeler: You
have been enioyed in motion picture
work

s nce that time,

so
vital

that the

worl

all over
it, and he;was -tryin
his damnedest
to do ithe -bet
he could
foreveryb_ody_ an
pecially the
working
I
at is, from the garbage it
emaid
in the
kitchen; h
sdio
worker. the
&#39; fact
r
rker.He
never lost acha
"
to do what
he
considered be
tering their
positions.
. ,
That was
ne, and
we
wer

along with

itwhereyer

could. -Sometimes
&#39;

it got

ali

~929

ridiculous because my_
pO_S
Wheeler: You did register to tie
tion in
the so-called
capitalir
world
was
pretty good and_
was alittle hard to
reconc_il

33,

Wheeler: You have pursued
made acting since that time?
WheelMiss Ball:Yes.

Background

to him

must be right 24 hours ad_a2

you if that is your signature.

Wheeler: You graduated from
Miss Ball: No, Ididnt,

did was in &#39;36.
I would
like
to

hand you_a
photostatic copy
of

appearing

voluntarily.

_&#39;

Jackson issued
astatement
after the disclosure saying
that
while she
had
registered as
a
Communist, evidence
now before the
committee indicates
Miss Ball
never had
arole
in
the Communist
Party.

- e ordered the transcript

time Iever
Wheeler:

poena or are you appearing voluntarily?

Miss Ball:

probably, during
our Ci&#39;lll
hood,
because
he finally
gtover our&#39;
heads and we
didn
do anything
but consider
it
nuisance, but as adad,
and h

vote then
as aCommunist
or
intending to
vote the
Commu-

nist Party ticket?

i

the two. We didnt argue wit

Miss Ball:
Yes.

him very much because he ha
er,,West Coast
investigator fpr ;Wheeler: For whom haveyou, Wheeler: Would
you
go into had acouple of strokes and
t House committee.Itne- worked in the studios?
detail and explain the
back- he got overly-excited, why,
r.
cil vher appearance before Miss Ball: Goldwyn and C0-5 ground,.the reason you voted

.eeler.in executive
$85516?!
lumbia and
Sept. 4in
. n-addition

testimony, that

Hollywood.
to the actress
of her

RKO and
M-G-M.

mount aiid
- Got

mother

Para-

575 aWeek

i92Vheeler: Wliere
were you Miss Ball:

and brother is also given. They

e .ployed

in 1936?

&#39;.

C munist
iii ,_including?a

92

where my brother was 21. ai

heiiwas going
to
see that Fr

just

die registeredto helpthe_worl
ing man, which
was,

did
something to please him. I did

lumbia.

another one.

&0 nally
Does
Favor
for Him
there came
apo r

It was our grand-

father, Fred Hunt. He
Ball:
was,
I
thinli,
registered to
vote Xlliss lt
wanted us to and we
just
R
O.
It
might
have
been
Cdin.1936. Three -

lid also

would
have

or registered
to vote as aCommunist or person who
intended
to affiliate with the Communist
Party?

in his ide

intend
to
vote thatway. As
Wheeler: What was your SE11-not
Irecall, Ididn&#39;t.
_
ary
bracket
in
1936,
approxiof; _e&#39;_"t.ranscript,
-and are fu
My grandfatherstarted years
mately?
_
?§;h&#39;1&#39;."-j.&#39;1dentied_-&#39;_tbe
_testiin
ago-he was aSocialist as long
copy of h

ation, were made apa

.- "
.1 Miss Ball: Well, if it was at
_"&#39;_iFoXlowing
the"is:
"complete Columbia , Iwas 38ettin S O 3

§i0_tLv;*.--,

as Ican remember.I-Ie
islsihe

" C i&#39;q1;_her"_
testimony as
tak-week. If it was RKO Iwas get-

o yfather
we
ever
knew,
g ndfather.
My
father
w n Iwas tiny, -before-.

..i;;;~_1n_ves

ting $50

tori Wheeler.

y
y

-_
&#39;1
I,-U? tour hmWheeler:
_Didyou have_any
bther was born._1;Ive_,wa5
1y-

t 9?
v All

.,_?~e.
L: screen
credits
about
that time?
brothers oply~fathe-Y:-1&#39;
I " .J
I
.
.1111 Ilie
= DesireeM! 3311-Imlgl" have been

ztqgiaa.,ll:
--

It

-

.,/7
_-4Agetting
more&#39;36,
1; $75,maybe
-u

b&#39;

oscreen cre its. Maybe abit

?f:e&#39;__,_?&#39;v»eF
*#P_,part~here
there.
Iand
doubt

<eta;sai&#39;i-1Jaae§tatm."-w.v."=~t
even.
in
&#39;36;
iwssiblyeg wt.-it
at
lav
-L//ZN-i*i
; "Wh&#39;
1&#39;1er&#39;:;ZYo"u &#39;~&#39;are=~9reséntl§i
S15
CHEDI
I IF"&#39;7.
~
part.

-5 -A&#39;;,n_3
9ye
,2 heeler:
Did orivggl-"=
you
ever resid
<
1=a 134-iN Ogden
.&#39;
Y2
"
1%-"I<1~_
ii
Yes.
=
~_ Iiss.Ball:
&#39;Miss&#39;Ball:
..
&#39;2.

e¢=1~=r= w.?.:/.<w~--.9170
kp
Qluaewiwwnseuei
.--;.~~<-:&#39;

-4
., »

.

° SER

1 maze. =
i-"-tie I 5

ici&#39;iQ§ m.92..-->

_.£-Is-_-sumo-in-4*
__,,..-~&#39;_&#39;=.-~.
"~~-

?- /3- :3

b7 / -

_.D

i
.

,._.g M
mg,

gt g%an.early
i-n_ e morn
ing, or anybody doing any
kind

then,
Communi
the
A¢1
-ti it
wasn&#39;t
ato
of
-a menial task,
hide
behind
doors, to
be
ber of that
party.
As I
recall, because

he
wouldmsay,

"Why are you doing that? Why
i aren&#39;t-you doing something

amemof
this

else?"

he
inuenced us. We
thoughti

ehe

was right

_&#39;scovered were
Communi t

to whet

or
rwrong,

an

walways decided he w1
gr g
w.on because

the
thin

was shouting
about
didnt

.1

s

rthat

Party meetings?

Miss Ban?
N°-

_Wheeler IDo

you knowl.

world, theve-yearplan
and

Asked
About
Miss Ball:

No, I

U _ked

Bal.i;Exh l

~ and -was:received in evidence

Wh&#39;ee1er:
Imight

&#39;
Has
l92o Explanation
Those appointed. according to
the document,
are Jacob
Bre-

ecord, that

Lucille Ball,
Drive.
Now, I

1344 N

say, for tl

fwas obtained
from
the les

Ogden

would like

in S2

No Record_of Proxies
Also, jthere is._no record
the proxies-.filed> by diere

to
hand

you this
document
and have
-you give any explanation that
lyou desire.
-

delegatesin the office of
ti

Secretary -of State»
»
Iwouldflike
to -refer
to ti
report &#39;
of
the
un-A-merican z
tivities in
&#39;ICalifornia for t&#39
year 1943 and refer-to Pag 1

Ition.
Misslhaven&#39;t
Ball:Ihave
no explanasigned it.
I

idont know
wherecame
it
rom

on what. My name is mis- of
~that docurnent, which
&#3

is lled.
The

is tight;
lnggt
all.isaddress
&#39;-

_ortion of an aidavit
u
itted by Rena
Vale. if &#

&#39; dont know Emil
Freelli. I
never heard of Emil Freed and
ifEmil
Freed appointed
me as
&#39;

adelegate

Freed
know noth-

adavit
begins on Page 122 a:
ctinues
through Page
-1&#39
and-bears the
date of
the
23

to the State Central

dayfof No_&#39;v_emb&#39;er

was done without
my knowledge
or consent.
Wheeler: Inotice your grandfather. Fred
Hunt, -was also ap-

pointed as

adelegate

&#39;
I-would

like to -read aporti-

of Page 127. In ithis aidai
she has admitted 1she
was
one time _a member ofthe co

for the

munist Party and-sheiis disci

anything that was great for the| ing of that. Idon&#39;t
believe it is
working man.
l true.

year 1936. Were you awarevof sing "how she became ame
ber.
&#39; that?

Got Very
Confused
Wheeler: He
considered the
Communist Party
-as aworkingmans party?
Miss Ball:
That
is
all
I
ever

Didn&#39;t Attend
Meeting
Miss Ball:
No. I
was not
.
aware of it.

Wheeler: How old were ycru

in 1936&#39;?
Miss Ball:
I am 42 now: 24.;

Wheeler:
would
I
like
to

~Wheeler:

w .s talked about

&#39;
Wheeler:

This affidavit

of

afewdays

a

er my third application
to jc
the Communist
Party w;
made, Ireceived-Ja
notice
|attend ameeting
-on&#39;N Ogd

could be
responsible for&#39;y
r
name appearing
on
this do
uWheeler: Do

you recall

anyone contacted

you in

I

-

father, Fred Hunt.

He al- iceived in evidence.!

the workng

-

Guestsof
Actress
That within

I

Do you know who

toduce the aidavit
of
regist
at nas Ball Exhibit
No. l, Regheard. I never
heard
my grand- istration No. 8-i758-i. The docu- &#39;rrient&#39;. i
[father use the word Commu-. ment referred
to was
marked
-Miss Ball: Possibly my gra
Enist." He
never said
that he! .Bail Exhibit No. 1and was re-

read the Daily
Worker.

.

the -"last docume

Secretary of
State
ger, 822N Orange Drive; Fred the
ramento.
5
*
Hunt. 13-14N Ogden
Drive,
and

ito bepractical for
this country.l&#39;&#39;ere
eve!" held
in §_"°u_,T
h°m9
at
134-1 I92 Ogden Dll929.

He admired
the working
man
peasants all over the

T "h._dOCi&#39;.ime

he

md S
92
.-

seem|lhetheT 01Il0t any meetings Committee it

and the

year. And

delegates.

He was just a fanatic on
bettering the world. That is as
far

we wanted
to do him afavor..
We
thought
we
could
make as we knew, and
that
is
why
him happy.
Iat
no time
in- we could endorse it at all.
tended to vote
that
way. And
Never a Red
Iremember
discussing it
with
Wheeler: Have you ever been
my mother, how Icould regisof
the
Communist
ter and make him- happy. amember
lWhen Igo behind acurtain
to Party?
vote, nobody
knows who
I
Miss Ball:
No, not
to
my
vote
for.
knowledge.
He also considered it
a perWheeler: Have you ever been
sonal
victory
at the time. that
asked to become amember
of
he had
the entire
family to
the
Communist
Party?
.
.register. He didn&#39;t inuence
us_ Miss Ball: No.
Zenough at any time to vote; at
Wheeler: Did you ever atte
least, he didn; inuence
me.
ymeetings
that you
lat r
&#39; I-le
inuenced us,
to give

gr at deal of
thought

Partv f

i three

if:

i

92
rive,
Hollywood;
as a=typed,
unsigied n.

erely requesting:
my preseii

1936

~the
address at
8oclocké
in regard
to obtaining
your
19th
day of
e got very confused in I s Ball and dated the
~t eeveningon
a,
given
day.
proxy to vote?
March, 1936.
=
knew it
was the long-await
lat er years, when Russia an
Miss Bail:
No, except
my
Have you ever known
an
inattend Commun
iwho got together--Russia and
grandfather. Is that what you- -notice to
Emil
Party new members classes;
Germany got together and he- dividual by the name of
mean?
.
Freed?
.That on
arrival alt&#39;tl&#39;iis
go&#39;t
he
couldnt
so
answer our
Wheeler: You
stated that you

registration is signed by Lucille,

questions at

all of
then.

And

Member of Committee

heywouid getmad andchange -Miss Ball: Inever heard the

t-,he&#39;su&#39;bject.
never quite
&#39;1-Ieme
before,

Zcould find out what had hapfpenedto the working man after that,
I
guess; -

iwere never
although we

_ Irecall.

Miss Ball:
it today.

¬!31ies&#39;_tfprices_
we
couldafford
if/r_they weregetting

at th

AY

or Jack Breger?
Not until Iread!
.&#39;

Wheeler: Are you aware
that
you were-0-memberof- theJen-

_
My~~__gra_ndf_ather
would
of the
F 1::3- oiit f into the" kitchen&#39;
-and tral Committee
and

w__0iild

iknowledge or

consent. is

that

dress I_-_.§ound several goth:
present; ~&#39;-an
elderly man

formed .us
that we
were t
the
screen actre
That
is
right. _&#39; guests of
Lucille Ball,
and showed us
v
Iassume
you-did
iious pictures, books and otl
8
ate Central Committee at
c-, objects Yto establish that -fa

right?
Miss Ball:
-Wheeler:

Wheeler:
ave
-I-Iyou
evegtattendthe meetin
of
he
kown
an individual
by th

able tokeep name ofJacob
paid the

to my knowledgé"

were appointed without your

Commu-

say-,nist Party for the year 1936?
Miss Ball: Was I aware he.-

,1"-§y lfat.is
your
name_?__
How
you
told me, you mean?
_...,§."¢.
r<=i1,§s_stti".&#39;8?"
&#39;
" fore

r rnento.

~_,

Introduced

and stated she was glad to -lc
&#39;.

_-_
as Exhibit

Miss Ball: I didn&#39;t
even know
there was
know what

one. Istill
it means.

dont
.

her home for a_Com_rnunistP
ty new»members&#39;ciass; I I
That the
instructor int

Voed} himself a_s&#39;-Sidne
,~M
&#39;_ ,blit&#39;I
-later knew

whether

or
not

" ich-~he]étated »was_ histi

youiwere con-

tacted by any individual to ob- .name:- "
1-;;-.::?:-;J.uet,&#39;a
pg}1IFanatic
tain from
you -your &#39;§vot.ing
,_.Miss Ba1l:,No. .
-.."
at -the Central Commitlf{Qh,i_.-§20"0rj1~525 .a:week,»&#39;_,
r ~&#39;,Wheele_r.I»wpuld
_-Well,like proxy
tee meeting in Sacramento? . »
tn &#39;ha_;1dyou I.-a
-docume-it en-i
Miss Ball:
Never,
; -_<i;I:-._i_i1e:w_¢&#39;><ati<i
~s&#39;ay.iha&#39;.t&#39;
&#39;

Wheeler: &#39;Yes. . ~

him

Wheeler: ,Do.;,you._:recall&#39;
It ename.oi__
Sidney Davids

4

-- " -i

r ~

~

ate&#39;v;e&#39;r
were,being
. titled _:1&#39;5ppoin_tment
ptheyof &#39;Mem-|
;

e

=, Wheelerri Irwiil lntrodi e
"k *§&#39;qrkirig-".wagQ.1W&#39;hat2
,_bers of
the
State Cent_ral_Com-i
s_,;as BallExhibit&#39;"No._.2_.= -t&#39;
d.I-s11erB?*
/Li 1 &#39;ti&#39;iittee
at Meeting
Sacrarrnento
_ datetithe

-15th--day of

p-

99

ber; ~_193s._.
gn_the.Year.=_1936.f;.It-iigstaniped.
P &#39;
-_ &#39;&#39;-"--.;.l1i1*>&#39;¢-a-*~*.¥>&#39;1.1*<l""1¬a?"-B-t

I~~shoulQ__say-ne
r,
S

,_Communistfand.
:~1>any_"
this
my-*=J_°&#39;Y.J_.¢s1se
qcuinent ;;iieclosesthat ._-;&#39;Emil,

AV

92.

, ~was&#39;#£t!e1eszqte5by.ooml- e -2&#39;9
540/
e" __me ,9--re
If?
&#39;
N___;ttee_&#39;,=_b_Y-_§l:iie-

atbleetin

e wer b&#39;%i &#39;l
I hav:

_r
ea ou
s
or eight other members
of this
class, but the only names I recall are those of Herb Harris.
an actor, whom I
encountered
from time
to time
within the
Communist Party,
and who

_-~i

_

dI- 1l&#39;
SS8 go>

ltook part
in theplay The
;Blackguarcl," which
iseveral years in
Los
iaround I938

ran for
Angeles

and 1939, and Lib-

by _Jac0bson,
who, in 1939, was

active
in
tives in

.D0

consumer co-operaLos Angeles."

you have any knowledge

l
!

;of any
meetings held
in your
home, Miss
Ball?
Miss Ball:
None whatsoever.

Wheeler: Are _vou acquainted
with Rena
Miss Ball:
name
before

Vale?
I never heard the
in
my
life. V

|
i
I

l92&#39;ever Left
Alone
Wheeler: Are
you acquainted
with or have you ever been ac-

gquainted with

Sidney Martin

ior Sidney
Davidson?
I
Miss Ball:
No, sir,
Ine
er
hrd
the name.
heeler: Are
you acquaint d

iwi

or have you
ever

qu_1nted with
iss Ball:

been -

Herb Harris?
Inever

heard e

I
I
I

%.heeler:
you acquain
d

ne.

WilissLibby
Jacobson?
Ball: Inever
heard t.at
name.
Wheeler:Do you
know

E1

9E.-ii!

photostat here. avoters

whether or
not your
grandfather, Fred
Hunt, held
meet-ings at
thehome?
5&#39; Miss
Ball: Not
to our knowl=edge ever, and _he was always
iwith
someone.
As
we
look back

tration, signed
by Fred
E.
who also
intended to

ey vtere trying o

recai to

Thea-document re_5£*_.-ii
my mind
where might
we have
wa§_"iE?l&#39;£ea
Exhibit
Ball Nc

regis-

Iregistered
and
I couldn&#39;t
remember.
&#39;

Hunt,
ailiatel

and was received in
evident
Wheeler: Iwill
read the 1
the document:
Miss Bali: Fred E. Hunt?
_ about? I&#39;couldntremember lowing from
Wheeler: Well,it looks likei
I, the
undersigned, spon
for Emil
Freed for the Comr
an
What is his middle in-i sg_"1:.;&#39;éi&#39;
They=:&#39;...3-=rRy
went.
itial? 1
nist Party nomination to
the
noun-nnr
l
v
l92liss Ball: Fred C.
ce
of
member got the Ass:
92ge_m,_u,ay downtown-,-1mz?e
Ilrandpa wanted us togo, way bly 57th District; to
be vo
hanged His
Ailiation i
{downtown near
Main St. I dont
for
at
the
primary
election
Wheeler: Fred
C. Hunt, rath- Zever remember
going down
be held on the 25th day of 1
er. This document is
dated the that far.
gust. 1936, hereby assert as :
12th day of June,
1936.
and also t Doesnt
Know Where

Wiih me
communist Part?

lsnt thiswhat heis talkingi

ihaving gone
down where
they

I
i
"therethe
at time,and thie
fremember;
evidence
no ishows
2:1 hechanged thevote to
is
Democrat18,
Nov.
19-10.l
|
giexillpther
Registered
Also i _&#39;
now, we
can&#39;t remember
at
any &#39;.time
he was ever alone",

because he
had
had two strokes
and we
had
anurse
that lix
d

ii V

was never
alone

tliat

lows: __

y,meeting ever being held &#39;n
ghouse
"when we were out.
1- believe
.is-is
something we
knew-

I really racked my
brain
over
a17-year.period
and" all Ireyou testied
that
member was
something like
a
Fred C. Hunt was
your grandnothing about.
father? garage
and
aag,
like a voting
day. They said it didnt tie
up
Miss Ball: That is right,
for registration.
Icant explain
Wheeler; Is
he
living?
eeler:!
also have aphoto-_
it. But
that bears
me out,
I
Miss Ball:
No.
wpy of
an idavit of reg"
Wheeler: Ihave
athird
doc- didnt go
on that trip.
{eimuon for the year 1936
for
l -}&#39;Qesiree&#39;E.
Ball, and it dis- uent
Idon
know -where
Iregishere, aphotostat
of an
have said,
if I
of registration,
be&#39;
- tered. Iwould
: _;;_:lJaat she also registered adavit
hadnt talked
to you last year,
.as a
person whointend-.
that Ivoted.
You said
you
had
to ailiate
Afliate with the _Commu- B 1, who intended
w h the Communist
Party in
no record of my voting. I would
-Party on
the-12th day of
ve said Ivoted when I wt
the ensuing
election of
1936. It
1936.
What
relation "is
Desiree Ball to you?
-t&#39;
is
also
dated the
12th day
of i. there.
Iremember
feeling very
fo
-. &#39;ss
Ball:_ My mother-_.. -&#39;
I;
June, 1936. What relation
is,
aaout the thing, because
Ir _ H.
Ball to
you? &#39;
1
..r
-Z
_= . Fred
ayou_re,gistered.on
the 1
istered We had aver
bad feel
gUT:&#39;.0t»
she was ever i.1.mi6
3
5Ma, h_ -,1 &#39;
&#39;
ing we had done that. Ialways
Wheeler: D0
you know
,--.- ~-ise1i:.:~1et itoiaw -{mo ;_, whether or
-- he
&#39;
~" was ever a felt Iwould
be all right if
I
not
member of
the Communist
didnt vote
it, just
to appease
Grandpa.
Party?
Miss Ball:
Not to my knowlVoted in Primary

in
the signatureFred
of

g

H

My knowledge
of. the s.
Emil.-Freed is
sufficient
to w
rant my
urging his
election
the-_olce of memberof-the .-

sembly, 57th District, and in_1
opinion he is fully
qualiii

imentally, morally and physjr
yfor-the

said otce and sh ii

e eleoted
to ll it? Iall

palied
electonof Los
An
les County and I. am register

as affiliated with the Corn:

nist "Party
and am not at t
time asigner
of any other c
ticate nominating
any oti
candidate for
the above-narr
office, or in case there are s

i 1oc=1i¬3g?-ff
.05-=me= .39F""1.l.1niF.P§,rty?i1i
ii
licignce
he&#39;eler"Do
know an/heér
you

Miss Ball:
Brother.

edge, nor to his.

.

|

y

.

eral places to be lled -in

1

above-named office,
Ihave
1
signed more
certicates th
are places
to be lled
in 1
above-named oice.
"
i Part
" Iwould

0! Appeasement
like to refer to

.,
t

-

ing the document it states thatl

y6u_=&#39;%,-=1
man the
at???

morally, physically
and mentally qualied.
Miss Ball:
It is
something
I
signed without
looking at it, or

.-. Miss Ball: Was this the same

Miss Ball:
Well, an
av 1 . ii-"R&#39;eqlIls
-rsonbicall
_.
dy week?
-: Fine.
T4
It was in the year
if_I
looked
at it, it didn&#39;t
seem -Wheeler:
Wheeler: You
were previous-1
no knowledge
of signing
ii
like a big thing at the time.
1936. However,
I do
have a
ly contacted by myself, an in- However, I
do recall
I was a
the House Com- a studio, and I was working OI
photostat of
a sample copy of vestigator for
-Grandfather Signed,
Too
Un-American Activithe petition
which was
dated mittee on
apicture
and -=1got acall
ii
Wheeler: I
believeyour
ties?
July 10, 1936. and this particuthe afternoon.
I -don&#39;t
knov
grandfather&#39;s signatureappears lar petition
Miss Ball: Yes.
.
was circulated
by
who called me.- Iassume nowon there, as well as_ the whole the California
Conference for
I did then-it was
_the Screea
t
Never
Joined
Committee
&#39;family?
I
Repeal of
the
Criminal SyndiActors Guild,
but Ican
h
Miss
Ball:
Yes, Fred, myselii calism Act at 68 Haight St., San
Wheelerz You recall the date
wrong. -fl dont _know whand my
mother
and my
grand-,
as
April
3,
1952?
Francisco,» Cal. I-lave you
ever
called me now. It was some
father.
My
name
appears on.
Miss
Ball:
Yes.
eard of
that
organization?
thing that was through aunlo:
Fthe second page of this
docu-5
Wheeler: Are
you -acquainted
or the
studio wouldnt
havment. Our
names
appear
there.!
with the
Committee
of
the
felt compelled to send me
o
1
Has Beardof
Group
, First Amendment?
It is possiblethat
this
was hand-i
set and hold up production un
ed to us just as a list of
names,|
Miss
Ball:
Am Iacquainted
Calif r- Iwith
it?
without the
strong-sounding lated by the Southern
t_ dowith me. p ,.
V]
sponsor certicate on the front nia Councils for Constitutional
-Wheeler: Yes.
.-I got the call to go to a radix
of it.
Rights, 129
W
2nd
St.,
Room
htion. As
I
remember, it wli.
326, Los
&#39;Angeles, Cal.Have ie
I dont
recall
that I.ever
ge.
GM-it may not have been?
you ever heard of this second
heard
anything
which right
remember an
executive
ex
now sounds very strong
and&#39;
organization?
b of
the Committee
of the
cused me and dsntzme to thi
Miss
Ball:
No. I
have since First Amendment?
i possible
to sign at this
day
broadcast. _- = - &#39; . then, probably.
Iimagine
that
dage,
but Imight
have b

tE&#39;nT_-w_-ewere
ibeing

gggligmow what

Miss Ball:
No.
Wheeler:was
It also
cir3i-

ll I got back.
&#39;I_t_.-

iss Ball:
Not to
my kno&#39;ylg Vheeler:
Or were
you
amerm-

3 use at that time I was
somethi
C&#39;nd totry to do

IMiss

Ball: Not to my knowl-

Igot
down
thereand
saic&#3
ties up
with the
un-American &#39;
edge.
&#39;-WhatI am
supposed to do?
usiness activities;
constitutionWheeler: Well,
your name
is
She said, Dorothy Petersen,
rights they
are all standi
t at would please
Daddy.
mentioned in the Daily People&#39;s
-whoever she
is-S-she is lli
&#39;
for
now.
Is
_that
what
t
just didnt
seem like an imporWorld, the
issue of
1028-47,
We have.to go on the air."
eans?
tant, awful
thing to
do, like it
page 1, columns 5 and 6, as one
,&#39;92Vheeler: Well,
itmeans mo
does these
days.
But, to
my
Read a Petition,
of
the
high personalities
who
knowledge, I didnt ever see the
or a member
I havent
seen her in years
o less like this: An act defi -; were sponsoring
rst part
of this
certicate I
Ipdon&#39;ther.
know
of
the
Committee of
the
First
in
criminal
syndicalism
an
.
signed. .
,
sa otage, proscribing certai
EA endment.
Can&#39;t Recall
Signing
I
of

a sandmethodsconnectior
in
I

l"_Wheeler_: Are
you familiartherewith and
with the
words or
the phrase
"criminal syndicalism"&#39;.&#39;

Word Sounds
Pretty
-Miss Ball:
No, but it is pretty. What
does it mean?
-Wheeler:
Criminal syndical-

thereof and

in pursuance

providing penalties
IfI

hatever youcall them,aig

he_e in Hollywood to. oppose recall. As
I_

and punishments therefor."
Miss Ball:

She said,
Will you 1-{rat
IL&#39;is?
&#39;
"Q
hat committee
was for fed ,-It.wa,sa long petition,_:&#

ever seen that,

recall-I am

no

it eCongressional
hearingsrin

I
sign it?
=on
it. I cant imagine
eyer
Signing Indicated
_
,
signing that.
Did I
sign that;
»92Vheeler:
Well, the
voter&#39;s
too? Was it under
an
assumed
~
&#39;re
istrationindicates that
you name?
8
idid sign it. ln
other words - Wheeler: That I dont know.
" Wheeler:
According to
the
There was .a reference to it. .
Miss
Ball:
What is
t/he Peovoter&#39;s registrationfor the year
it
n
if
the
individual
is
a
reg1_ples World?
-Is that
like the
1936, the reverse part
of it, you.
it ed
voter.
Daily Worker?
_ &#39;
si ed apetition
164-F.
-When it is ascertained the Wheeler? Yes, a Communist
his
particular
petition waindividual
is
a
registeredvoter
publication of
the Western
_fo1 the_Repeal of
the
Crimin
ithey mark on his voters regis- "States. &#39;S31 dicallsm Act in California.
-1
&#39;
this
particular
numiss
Ball: What does it mean. , tration,

Iwould

have never signed it. -947.

i&#39;
Miss Refresh
Ball: IIl8iilOmy

Did I

ism?
MissBall: does
What
mean?
it 1en apetition
is signed
the¥

;eck each signature,
to asce14-

Communists" ber, 164-F, which indicates

3-;;Mfheeler: The

&#39;ere¢aken tocourt and

tried

gritzriminal
and
syndicalism.
,i;4_Miss Ball:
Andi signedsomethatpetition. However,
been unable

-tIiingelse?

~,1

petition.

-

Askswsesoppy

the

person who registered did sign
Ihave

to locate the actual

9

iss Ball:

I

In &#39;47?
That

c

-

ta&#39;aly not
wasfor
Grand

ii.

Gr ndpa was gone by then.
can&#39;t imaginedoing anything

-I

for these people. If Iiwas hoodMiss Ball: Because you regis_-Wheeler: Yousigned this petiit,<with _one
_ . _totake the Criminal Syndi- ter you are in sympathy with winked into

i= fern~Act oi!the statutes
-of all this
32,- _§tgt,a
of California. =

to
Ball:

of

%th_ose -long
democratic souped-

indicating-!? &#39;

up __
name_s,.fthat &#39;___~in
zsomething
as else;
Iwould like "_t_ej.se&#39;e
it. Gould

Wheeler: Itwould
indicate

such. I-mean.» it a
Daddy Week
_&#39;

person 818115I_see that?
-document request-

&#39;

,

particular
1_ did;
min is, wim- aing-that
""Wheel_&#39;er:
.do{1t;l.~&iave
I
the Criminal Syndical- copy
of
the&#39;"Pepp
¬s ~_World
for

.l;now-ledge.
I see
May
ism Act "be removedfrom
-the

,_ &#39;
.slgna&#39;ture?_5- .1. &#39;.&#39;
&#39;~"
&#39;that dl¬- ?1.&#39;L":._";
.5
~"psatutes. would
seem
to indi- -Miss: 8-11.=-A=:~1. Tmtevoaed
-2-5
Liriwheelerz Unfortunately;they cate
to me
that
you would b

_Q

the
b! /

E:~1iar_-ipe&twns:."A.&#39;.&#39;
»-I&#39;*:;
f""*"-&#39;*.*,=°&#39;:.<??*m111=&#39
;~?¥8 ?YmPaIhY&#39;-&#39;
-1 "=1 ~&#39;
FF ,MissBall:ny&#39;wn&#39;pm?
.1; -"Wheeler;-_,Yoiu"name
used
ve been destroyed, those

have =~signed&#39;-&#39;.something--as
&#39;_ he-

par

"T_=Wheelgr:_?1nlt1iey
retained,
a
.._92l_ Q?-j
Weiii-ND

I

$4

surg of

isit was

about the

tirbvas very

riihe
radio
n&#39;t
O ate Califo1E1,~T:ishave. Idon&#39;t
know.
no or some place, about admitting the-"Okies.
I read it. They
thanked me" and they sent
me
back to work.
Idon&#39;t
know ho92v long
after
that that
it was
that Iwas
called downtown
in an FBI ofce and
-asked why
Idid
it.
Apparently, it
was wrong.
It
was my rst knowledge
it was
wrong.
Ihad
no answer
at all,
because Ihadnt
done it
of my
own volition.
Ihad
been sent
there. It
didn&#39;t
seem
wrong
to

gjL5Ome_ place the studio, hid

sent you.

Wheeler: How

long ago d

you go
to
the FBI?
-" Miss Ball: Ihave no idea. I
haveno idea
when Idid
this
broadcast.
Ihave no idea how
long after
that
they
called me.
But that
is
the
rst time
I
everWheeler: It was three or four
years
ago?
A Miss
Ball:
It is more
than
that.
&#39;

lheelerr Did

I

they discuss,

wh

you at that timeiss Ball:
Must have

be n

sl

eight, nine years
ago;

m

cts.

Idon&#39;t
know who
sent
on the rst one and I do
t
W
what
the second one w s

be 10.Therewere
two
k
a

ut. It

bro_

was something th

imriel

knew we

werent go-

to have daddy
with
us very
Wheeler: Doyou have any-I ling
llong_ If it made him happy,
it

thing in

addition

you
would

was important

at the

time. But"

like add
to the
for record?
1Iwas always conscious

of the,

fact Icould
go just so far tot
make him
happy. Itried
not
have thisopportunity todis-ijto
go
any
farther. .
4Never Political Minded
cropped up,
that
apparently
I.
Miss Ball:

Iam

very happy

to:

cussall
the things thathave
hva

done wrong.

INever

In those days that was no a
g, terrible thing to do. It
s;
. ost as terrible to be a _e-_i

Helped Beds

am awareof only one thing;
Iid
that was wrong, and that
at the time wasnt
wrong, but;
apparently now
it ls, and thati

was registering

___*&#39;grandfather
-I
wanted

to explain why I hd
done it. Ihad no reason-exce t
Ihad
been
called.

cause we

ed in my life.

because my;
us to. Iat.

no time
thought it
was the
thing to
do, nor did I ever
inend to vote inthe
Presidential

publican in those
days.
Ihave!
never been too civic-minded andj
certainly never
political-mind-5

lection,Iguessit wasat trht

.Z

Since Igot
any feelings
on
the subject at all,
we
went maybe a little strongly
Democratic
"re year and we got into tub edoing
that. That
is
w
en

.nowledge
ISince
didnt
vote,
bultil
id register.
then
Iha ei |R<>0Sevelt
and did
ime,

Idor.t

was still
y- i osevelt
Ire
always very

know_ To

_L

alive. e&#39;
much or

- it

4

-

ln er done anything
knowing-&#39;
Mr.atand Mrs. Roose
It

ioCommunists,
, my knoil-W335
doing, to

lly ga&#39;inst
the United

.have

States. -

ked us to do, as all of
Ho
ood, or as most of Hollyw

never done anythi g

y_ d,

ede,
at any time.
Ihavenever|l He
was the
only Presideht
I:

contributed money

ed ameeting

or
attend

or ever had any-

thing to
do with
people con
nected with
it, if to my knowl
edge they were.
Iam not aCommunist
now.
I never
have
been. I
never
wanted to
be. -Nothing
ln the

had ever known.~ Itwas awon
derful thing
to get out and help
him with
his March
of Dimes
or
bond
tours
during
the war
"
a d we were very
busy.
Nev r
llmy
life have Ihad any oth r
f ling
than the
Communi
s
~.re
wrong, that
anybody
this town
would
dare
to thl
of changing
any of Itor
complaining about
what they
had

world could
ever change my
mind.
At
no time inmy
life
have Iever been in sympathy
with anything that even faintly is just
resembled it.
&#39;
Iwas

always opposed

indi

the most

thing Ihave

ridiculous

ever heard

of. -

éV9I&#39;Yb°d}
d°iT18-W35
Y0
111$" fcating!
to how
mv grandfather

Questioning Ends
get askedto do
these things. I{felt about any other way this .I certainly was never in s
again was called in at the last §°°1m1Y Sho" 1dbe
Tl-111-&#39;1
pthy
with the
Dmytryks
I
n&#39;t remember
any of the ih.mmuté_ |th
ught things were just
e
enames.
&#39; L
th way
they were

51..-&#39;7
I.D°il&#39;¢
K11°W&#39;
. hsounds
~""I had nothing to
do
with
sil and
iwbatever it was. @Ididn&#39;t know

alittle weak

corny now,

but at

what I-was dbing, but you assumed at

the time,

when you

are called by a union
or
one of
donit
know who called
e_.&#39;1-I»&#39;know.bothIwas
times

»= led t0 replace .someone.
T.¥_&#39;-. eeler:
Did you
aterlal "today

discuss
with

the

Ifor did theyquéstion you

Ir;1ing_your
-voter&#39;s_&#39;regis_t &#39;="-Ball:
No."lhat was
a

§x_uently"iust -somethingI h

How we
got
t

to signing a I w

things or
going
-_-i--L..___

among
some,

ople -thought
that
dltferentg;

&#39;
hasathappened
to £11553! &#39;
c there

in the

last 10 or I

rs andrit--is
uni&#39;ort_unate;&#39;2b

1
certaln?_will}_-do
iii
the- wor41&#39;
to
prove thitgwo
made a bad mistake by,
forlinii
week ova couple at fir?

ing to appease:"a1i]old -But
theref has never.

iany

thought bdohsins
of
or

tlo.belong&#39;tothe&#39;
_t. _:o

iPW.

I

-.5

1

Whee1er:>,§;I>
&#39;v&
nrum»
noj
I

estions.
,fIhu&
yqu.:-,yo
to;
&#39;:
&#39;
&#39;:=&#39;-l-E1-.3.l"r
:~_

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5

92-..
.= =. _i

~_&#39;:&#39;_71&#39;OWN MEETING
i,»

-

I

I&#39;
s

1Says Lucy Dldn
t Seem
Bed
fjways o

Meeting: One of the surest
promotecommunism is
to

.-fconvince the rank and file that

a

-Heved one&#39;doesn&#39;t
it repug!find

ffrfant. _»
I. don&#39;t.
number [myself

.-among the
followers ofI pave

-- &#39;;-Lucy,"
because television
is for me
&#39;fStiI1
,"nouveau,"
too
"joven," or ex..pensiveI don&#39;teven own a set-

but I doknow Lucy is loved by
millions of

_I
»

Amgricans.

knew,Luci1le

Ball
in

1936. If

she viras
a communist
then she
was

the queerest-acting
communist
besides being the greatest actress! ianyone ever heard
was not a communist.

of. She
, &#39;

The fourth estate has a sponsibility-to the nation in dire tpro-

portion to
, it

the number of eople

influences. To

use its

&#39;
to
subvert. is to turn

~the press into
ness.
»__ -RUTH

influence

freedom of

license and

lawless-

AcNEun&#39; LUCILLE
.-1-J SECURITY

F4_.»

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BALL
l~LA&#39;ZTEP92
C &#39;92

HOLLYWOOD CITIZEN-I-EWS
I

sEPT1=:1~¢:f?->
1953 __
-6,
_ __
HARLA1. PALMER,JR. - MAIIAC-I¢.=G E0110.bC/
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...__.-....... _4,___,.___0,_,_,...
--

O

.

, ,&#39;.-.

- &#39;
mus

can
6

Dear Winchell;

g
Fhat are

defended the
not

these buns

around
to

guide
her

the Pinko

Clyne of
side when

letro
and

the Hbrris

out off

the wees

the guts

old work

ing political
H172 HID

IOOD IERE

at that

by pushing

trying

b2 now.

SITLL COUNT

THE PQPER
AS

feels that

way too.

29--well over
her warbles

she went
lies

TEN OF

HOLLY;

along with

bothered to

the sane

the
regard-

STILL SHOULD

2A1&#39;2HE UIFFIENDLI

Winchell had

who had

all of

BUNS.....But no

low

can

TEE COUNT RIRTI.

YEARS AGO19b8,
she

T0 KNOW

call Dizzy
he
handed

them.
he -

the Herald

she_never registered
as a
wewber
THE HERALD HAD TEE SIGNED PROOF

DEZIE DENIED

I LOATHE

L We

and others

she was

have had

handed Iinchell

be called

was

what they

SIGKED IITH

In 1936

parties. FIVE

IWOUGE BRAINS

to
save

aside Iinchell

and should

show should

Ball

and Granpop

time.

people are

Erpress the
other day---namely
of the
Communist Party...FHEH
RUENIIG IN

7Lucille

as l9h8

the Biow
Agency knew
this done
was on
he signed
her for
Morris Cigarettes.

If Falter
would have

prove

as late

to POR7E&#39;!HAT
THIS LMHE
Ball is

21 year

trying to

UHFRIEWDLI TEN

LUCY and

j

IT. I

still thinkthe

every real

American

A

ALL INFORRATICN
CONTAINED
HEREIN ISUNCLASSIFIED

DATE B&#39;Y I

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MTB= September
211, 953

yb1 /
Director, FBI
SUBJBCI :

00-h00h65!

LUCILLE BALL,

was.

SECURITY MATTER

-

U

For the
additional information
of your
office
and the
completion of
your file,
there are
attached
two copies
of aself-explanatory
communication forwarded to
the Bureau
by Mr.
Walter Winchell
under

postmark of
is not

9-18-53. The

identifiable in

Since the
was
transmitted

writer
of

the attached

letter

Bufiles.

envelope in
to Winchell

Bureau, neither
the postmark
can be
determineda

which this
is not

communication

available to

nor the

point of

the

origination
-

In view
of
the source
of the
attached, you
are
requested that,
in the
event it
is necessary
to utilize
this information
at some
future
time,
the
source
be fully
protected and
the material
paraphrased appropriately
Attachment

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War Vets Protegt ____~
"M To Lucys Sponsor
Indianapolis, Oct. 6. A
war
veterans group here made public
today apetition
it has sent to

Philip Morris
protesting

the cig-

arette company&#39;s employment of

Lucille Ball
LL16? on
the

as star of I
CBS-TV
network.

Love

Vets basedtheir complaint against
Miss Ball on
fact
she once regis-

tered to vote as
a
Communist in
a California Primary Election.
The vets,
who
identified themselves as including two
former
American Legion Post commande5. warned
Philip
Morris
that
ty
9292
ll
boycott that companys c aettes until
Miss Ball
is pced.
Indianapolis is
the natio
l

h adquarters

of the

Americ n

Legion.

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FBI
12/15/53
SAC,
LOS

ANGELES 00-41702!

LUCILLE BALL,

was.

SM~C

ReBulet dated
1/18/52 captioned
"CP,U,S.A,,

DISTRICT 13,
Los AngelesDivision, IS-C"
and

remyAir-Tel to Bureau 9/11/S3captioned "HOUSE
COMMITTEEUNvAMERICAN
ON
ACTIVITIES".

The subject
furnished

an
executive

statement to

WILLIAM
A.
WHEELER,
West Coast
Representative,.House Comitt
on Un-American
Activities, onSeptember
A,
1953, at Hollywood,
California.
BALL
stated
that
in
1936
she
registered
to vote
as aCommunist
or intendedto vote the Communist
Party ticket
because her
grandfather, FRED
HUNT, now
deceased,
wanted
her

to register as such. Shestated
that
FRED HUNT
had been
a
Socialist all his life and shehad registered
as aCommunist
to makehim happy
and todo himafavor. She stated
sheat

no time intended to vote as
a

_ BALL

Communist.

stated she has neverbeenamemberof
the

Communist
Party
to

"her knowledge":
had never
been asked
to

become
aCommunist
Party member;
did notever attend
any
meetings which
she laterdiscovered
were
Communist Party A
meetings; didnot know
whether or
not anymeetings were
ever
held ather home
at l3#4North Ogden
Drive; statedshe didnot
know EMIL
FREED ifand
he had appointed
her asa delegate
to
the State
Central Committee
of
the Communist Party
in 1936it

was done
without her.know1edge
or consent;did not recall

signing thedocument sponsoring
EMIL FREED
for the Communist
Party nomination
to theoffice of
memberof
the assembly
of
the 57thDistrict; and hasnever
heard
of
the California

Conference for
Repeal
of
the Criminal Syndicalism
Act, the
Southern
California
Council
for
Constitutional
Rights,
or
the Committeefor the lst Amendment.
A reviewof
the

subject&#39;s
reflects
file noactivity

that
would warrant her
inclusion on
the Security
Index. The
subject&#39;sis file
beingmaintained in
a closedstatus. One
October 30,
1953, the
Washington
Field
Office
furnished the

Los Angeles
Office with acopy of the
subject&#39;s
executive

statement which
is locatedinLos Angesfile 100-H1702-lal.
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Dear

Sir:

The

ouse

Comittee

on Un-American

held bearings at San Diego, California

Activities

from April

19

to April 22, l9S§. Theresults of thesehearings

are reported
in the State
or

in

Investigation
California".

Information
person

concerning

appears

as

Part

Page hS2S

l,

of Communist Activities
Part
1-10!
&#39;
the above-captioned

follows:

On February 2h, 1953; during the testimony of

STANLEY R.
MNCOCK,

Circulation

Manager,

Daill

Press, Jamaica, Long Island,

New
!b¥§,

arose

concerning

State

the

fact

that_the

Lon

Island

a discussion
Committee

of

A

the Communist Party was composed of persons who were
not actually

State

leaders.

JACKSONcommented that Miss
LUCIL

member of the State

davit

that

having

been
so

Plrt
Angeles,

Cemittee,

Congressman DOKALDL.

E BALL, who was
a

had stated

he P3893 h71oe b711, h713

California,

who testified

he had hen
a

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;_.,;1t-~_;A/"SI?
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cc: Lea
Angela!
unto.!REG.!A
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of

appointed.

no
R QISTERED
P,

in an affi-

she had no knowledge or recollection

bQQ.

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BALL

October
21,1951;
aka.

or theCommunist
Partyfrom1935
until
l9hl, eleoteatiriedconcerning
theStateCommittee
thatalthough
thename
of
LUCILLE
BALL
wee
on
the
Committee,
TAYLOR
believed
ehe wae never a Communist.

3ubeequently
during
TAYLOR&#39;a
teatinony,.Congreee-

man
JACKSON
commented
that theLUCILLE
BALL
matterehould

bemore
clearly
putin therecord.Hestated
thatalthough
Partythedenied
anyactivityoror having
attended
any
Partg
during
theperiod
of timeahevacregiotQ,.
Qfunctions
MienBALL
hadknowledge
of registration
in theComuniet

Sine
thisDiv
Sub£et
resides
within
theterritory
of theLou
Angelou
eion,
norecommendation
ie being
made
bySanDiego
concerning
theplacing
or retaining
on
or removal
of her name
tron
theSecurityIndex,sale
beingleft to thediscretion
of theOfficeof Origin.
Very truly youre,

GALEN N, wILLIS

Special Agent in Charge

-Z-

DIRECTOR, FBI
00-nooh65! December

3, 195A

SAC, LOSANGELES 00-A1702!
LUCILLE BALL,

was.

SECURITY MATTER

O0: Los

C

Angeles

I

Rebulet dated l/18/52 captioned,

District 13,

Los AngelesDivision, Internal

re San Diego letter

"Communist Party, USA,

Security C";

to the Director dated
10/21/5h.

and

By referenced San Diegoletter
the
Bureau wasadvised
of-the testimony of STANLEY
B. HANCOCK
on 2/an/53 and DANIEL
POMERO
TAYLOR on
4/19/5A before the House Committee onUn-American

Activities regarding

This subject

the
subject.

furnished an executive
statement

to the

HCUA whichwas set out in Los Angeles letter ated
The subject&#39;s
file reflects
warrant her

inclusion on

the Security

The subject&#39;s
file
is
being

12/l6/53.

no a ivities that
In ex.

would

_

iined

in
a

closed status.

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Walter Winchell
complete atelefilm
pact with

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P

about to
Desi Arnaz,

nearly wrecked the Desilu empire a couple ,yeareback whenhe reported that Lucv Ba&#39;Il
ad been

a registered

member of

the Communfst

arty. Remember?"

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SAC, LOS ANGELES DATE

3/ll/58

L/

SUBJECT: J?/LA-<:/ /2/ P
SM -

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By Bureau
letter dated
2/2l/58, in
case entitled
"COMMUNIST PARTY, USA FUNDS; INTERNAL SECURITY -C",
the
Bureau instructed

that

Angeles Office

areview

be made

individuals who

have made

A review
the captioned

of the

to determine

the Los

of

financial contributions

of the

CP, USA

individual was

13C-23483- 3

files of

the identities

to the

funds file

referred to

CP.

reveals that
in serial

as acontributor

or who made a pledge or

loan to
the CP
or related
groups.
This
case
is being
reopened for
the express
purpose of
determining the
advisability of
interviewing the
subject relative
to CP
funds and
other phases
of his
CP activity.
If this
person is
on the
Security Index
or is
2 member
of the
press, a
religious leader,
teacher,
prominent individual,
or an
individual in
asensitive
position which
through interview
might embarrass
the Bureau,
you are
instructed to
write
aletter
to the
Bureau setting

forth
aconcise
together with
an interview

summary of
the activities
of this
individual
your recommendations
and comments
regarding
with him.

The Bureau
however, a
be advised

set adeadline

of 3/20/55

On this

PFOJECF,

2O day extension has
been requested,
and you
immediately u
on receipt
of the
Bureau answer.

will

Proceed though
as
the
3/20/58 deadline
is to be met.
&#39;
The Bureau has
to interview

without submission

individuals other

. You
approval is

&#39;
then

his j

been requested
for

aletter

than

will be
granted. If

1 - 1"o-23u8°
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of letter

those
classified

of the

. /T29.
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is not
granted,

asummary

.

of request
above.

advised immediately
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approval

setting forth

blanket authority

C,

activities together

regarding an

with your

interview must
n
I all

letter to
PARTY, USA

_
letters

Los Angeles,

to

SECURITY -

requesting Bureau

comments

before 3/2Q/58.

the Bureau,

dated 2/21/58,

FUNDS; INTERNAL

The letter

recommendation and

be submitted

refer to

Bureau

entitled "COMMUNIST
H

C .

authority to

view the subjeot
should be the regular
7 point
letter
&#39;
&#39;
se
it subjects.
is customary

Refer to

0"

in

arequest

Section 87D,

to interview

page 39,

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ilioie Desiree
ArnazWE

Bl]Birthd
BY JOYCE HABER

LL.

TimesColumnist
indicate page, name of
newspaper, city and state.!

I didn&#39;t
feel it was really a wedding.Nobody
broke a

glass," said
Virginia

Graham. She was

veryrealwedding
of LucielQgsirtalking uttothe
young
producer-director
priz
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winning
documentaries!
Philip
92&#39;ander92&#39;ort
Ble-

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Los

In fact, it was all
so

real that it was
a

rare thing

Los

Angeles

An"e1es,

Tin

Callf.

of beautyfor
Hollywood:
The weddingeventool;
place on real, not roll-up, grass. The grass belonged to the gardens of the bride&#39;s
famous
moth-

er and stepfather,Lucille Ball and Gary
Morton.
s o peoplegathered
outside
theirAgansion

i

Hills
at
dusk
Saturday
hopinfgraich

a-zligirie of
just

about anyone.The crowdswe e

sogreat
thattheMortons&#39;
neighbors
tui

sprinklerson full
blast
to keep them from tram~
pling
their
lawns.And it all tookplace on Lucie&#39;s

7

20th bi&#39;rthda}".

Last year, youngLucie celebrated
her
birthday
with a mammoth,colorfulgypsydancein the very
same
mansion
in Be92"erl_92_
Hills." "What can
I
do to
top that" she wondered
to
Natalie i_Mrb~:.
Daniel!

92v9292

Schwartza few monthsago.Sheclearlyfiguredit
out.

The
bride

wore a dressof her own design,ex-

changing her vows beneath an arch
which

was

flankedwith yellowcarnations,giant yellowchrysap1h.emums&#39;and
white daisies.F1O92928If§,-,Q_6f>k9d

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latficed&#39;p&#39;
illarsalongthe aisle and floatedin_the

r

swimming
pool.
TheRev.Raggarris,

director
of UCLA&#39;s
department
of spiritU5TE&#39;é&#39;ie,

Date:

7,/20/71

Edition:
Author:

Tues av

Final

Editor:

officiated,readingthéiletterof
St. Paul to the Cor-

Title:

inthians"faith,hopeand 1o92&#39;e,"these
three,and
the greatest of these is love"!.

Desi Arnaz Jr. wa=_ahandsomeand meticulous

host;hevisited
withfriends
in almost
everyrow

Character
&#39;
or

beforethe ceremony
started.As always,women
were ever_92where
swooningat that Man of the

House,
andgossiping
still
about

newromance
with

Class$flt:ation§"/"90
4//7.0.

hisrumored
old-

the estranged
wife of a major-

maior figure in
show

business.

Submittlnq Office LO
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thereception
camethe momenteven-l

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and
Desi Sr..ganced withLucy. the mother of the bride. pointed out in atoast. He also pushed V.P.
trip around-the-world
to Page4O 8Rut t e momentwas only amoment, because fucys his golfing
husband. Gary

UOl&#39;1S newspapers,
as I pointed out in another, more pricut in.
vate tribute to Kissinger.
,
guests rangedfrom Buddy Hackett&#39;s

Morton, immediately

The dressof
the

white cotton see-through blouse to Ruta Lee&#39;s
white
cot-

Shoot
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opening this week at the Cave in Vancouver. Dick Gau- " The Gang ThatCouldnt ShootStraight, which
is
tier, Vandervort&#39;s
best
man

Phil uses
Vandervort

as
his

professional name!apparently made agreat but unreleased filmthat everyonewas talking about. Mingling at
the reception poolside wereboth the Bridges, Lloyd and
Beau, the Cecil Smiths Cleo is
Lucy&#39;s
cousin; the
Smiths sonMarcus, 7,was ring bearer!; the Joe Hamil-

_

shooting in New York, got orders to cool it on publicity
-after the Joe Columbo assassination attempt . . . My
friend Carol Channing is really hung up on
Dallas
Nei-

man Marcus.
Every time she playsthat city, she sends

her friends some goodies from the store. This year it&#39;s
rock sugar in three colors, green, orange and blue, with
tons Carol Burnett, who cried agreat deal at the wed- three matching bowls, green, orange and blue. Here&#39;s
a
ding!, Ruth Berle her Milton is working in
the east! sample of Prentis Hale&#39;s
fabulous wares, said Carol&#39;s

with Dr. Leon Krohn, Ken Berry, the
Ross

Martins and

maybe 200 more.
Yes,
Lucie
outdid her 19th birthday party this year-

and on my daughter Courtney&#39;sfirst
verybirthday . . .

l

card to

me. Prentis

Hale, of

course, derives

from the

Broadway-Haledepartment store
clanwhich
owns

little

like
Neiman-Marcus,
OscarLa
DeRenta,
Maximl18n,§&#39;don
and
on.
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ANight Spot
to Be Seen
At
Asmart

little restaurant

on Melrose Ave. near Vine St.

is Hollywood&#39;s
new St. Germain. The bistro has become
an increasingly _"in" luncheon spot for show business
types, particularly for the Columbia/Paramount people,
whose
lots
around of

are next door. and now, after word
gets
Friday&#39;s rather
spectacular dinner
group

there, I wager the St. Germain will become another of
the handful of elite
night-time

spotsto
be

seen
at.

It was Anne and Kirk Douglas party, at which they
brought together afew new and old friends of
the man
in the news,
Dr.
Henry Kissinger, the President&#39;s
adviser for national security

affairs. Henry

was fresh from

his triumph at aRed China conference room. He was
also freshfrom front page photosof him with astunning
blonde TV producer and him with President 192&#39;ixonin
Henry&#39;s case,
in that order. His companion on Friday
was the beautiful Hope Lange, who flew in from Arizona where shes finishing up the first segments of Dick
Van Dykes new series, in which
she
plays Dick&#39;s
wife.
I&#39;m Kissingers
sure
friend Frank
Sinatra
had briefed
him on
what acharmer Hope is. Warren Beatty was in
the party, clean shaven,with his steady best girl Julie
Christie. Ann Ford Johnson and her handsome husband

Deane
represented
Bob Evans
was

the legal side of things atdinner.

stag becausehis Mrs., Ali MacGraw, was

recuperating fromabout with the mumps inCap Ferrat; Ali

flew home, recuperated, on_Sunday._. ,

,Completingthe high-levelHollywood
P0W.Wbw.

were

113&#39; husband,
just back from Poland and Israel -and

scouting-locations for
ABC&#39;s fivepart,-five-hour
rendering of Leon Uris&#39;
bestseller, "Q.B.VII, andCaro1~Lyn-

ley. Carolhadonly
to
comefrom
her

heachhouse at

libu to meet the fabulous good doctor, of whom
.&1l>h1S

friends areso proud.In-arrangingthe President;visit

ai,

co many
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INVESTIGATION 0F
COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES
IN TIIE
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LOS ANGELES
AREAPART 7

HEARING
BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON UN -AMERICAN ACTIVITIES

HOUSE

OF
REPRESENTATIVES
vEIGH&#39;IY-&#39;1IIIRD CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION

SEPTEMBER 4,
1med

for Lha

1953

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Un-American
INCLUDING INDEX

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. !.92l!921I&#39;l"II~1l§
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UN|&#39;l&#39;|-in
S&#39;r,92&#39;|-as
Ilnusrz01-"
REl&#39;Bl~lBENTA&#39;IlVEB
HAROLD
H.
VELDE, Illlnoln, Chairman
BERNARDW. KEARNEY.New York
FRANCIS
E.
WALTEK,Peusylvanin
DONALD
L.
JACKSON,California
MORGAN
M.
MOCLDER,Missouri
KIT CLARDY,Michigan
CLYDE DOYLE,Callforulu
PGOBDON
H.
SCHERER,Ohio
JAMES
B.
FRAZIEB, 13., Tenneseo
Roazur
L.
KUN&#39;/.10,
Culnmel
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S.
Tnvaxumu,
Jr., Uounael
Imuls
J.
RUSSELL,
ChiefInvestigator
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CONTENTS
__i_,_i
September4 1953:
Page
Statement of2561
Lucille Déslrée Ba Anmz __
Désirée
E.
Ball _________________Q____________________________
Fred Henry Ball_-____-_-________-_______-____________________
Index _____________________________________________
___________________
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2572
2577

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Pnsuo Law 601,79&#39;ru
CONGRESK
&#39;

Thelegislation
under

whichtheHouse
Committee
onUn-American

Activitiesoperates
is
PublicLaw 601,79thCongress
[I946], chapter

753,2d session,
which

provides:
.

Be it enactedby the Senate and House of Representativesof the United States
of America
in
Conarcasassembled,&#39;
&#39;
&#39;

PART2RULES OF THE HOUSEOF REPRESENTATIVES
_
_
Runs X
SEC.121. STANDING
COMMITTEES
00

OO

0

I0

17. Committeeon Un-American Activities, to consistot nine members.
RULE
XI
POWERS
ANDDUTIESOF COMMITTEES
00

0O

O0

0

!q!
A!

Commiteeon Un-AmericanActivities.
Un.-Americanactivities.

!

The Committeeon Un-American
Activities,as a wholeor by subcommit-

tee,is authorized
to makefromtimeto timeinvestigations
ot i! theextent,
character,
andobjects
oi un-American
propaganda
activities
in theUnitedStates,
ii! thediffusion
withintheUnitedStatesof subversive
andun-American
propa-

gandathat is instigatedfromforeigncountries
or of a domestic
originandattacks

theprinciple
of theformof government
asguaranteed
byourConstitution,
and
iii! all otherquestions
in relation
thereto
thatwouldaidCongress
in anyneces-

sary remediai legislation.

TheCommittee
onUn-American
Activities
shallreportto theHouseor to the
Clerkof theIlouseit theHouse
is
notin session!
theresults
ofanysuchinvesti-

gation, together with such recommendationsas it deemsadvisable.

l-or the purposeof any suchinvestigation,the Committeeon Un-American

Activities,
or anysubcommittee
thereof,is authorized
to sit andact at such
timesandplaces
withinthe UnitedStates,
whether
or nottheHouseis sitting,
hasrecessed,
or hasadjourned,
to holdsuchhearings,
to requiretheattendance
oi suchwitnesses
andtheproduction
of suchbooks,
papers,
anddocuments,
and
to take suchtestimony,as it deemsnecessary.Subpenas
may be issuedunder

thesignature
ofthechairman
oi thecommittee
oranysubcommittee,
orbyany

member
designated
by anysuchchairman,
andmaybe servedby anyperson

designatedby any suchchairman or member.
4v

0

_.F._.
_.
.

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4
I

,
RULES ADOPTED BY THE 830 CONGRESS
House Resolution5, January 8, 1953
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INVESTIGATION OF COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES IN THE
LOS ANGELES AREAPABT
7

Row
X
FRIDAY,

srauunvo oouurrrszs
1. There
shall
be elected by the
House,
at the commencementof each Congress, the following standing committees:
O
I
QO
O
O
I
q! Committee on Un-American Activities, to consistof nine members.
OO
OO
IO
O
Runs XI
POWERS
ANDDUTIESOF OOMMITTEEB
IO
O
U
OO
I
17. Committee on Un-American Activities.
a! Un~AmericanActivities.
b! The Committeeon Un-American Activities, as a 92vhole
or by subcommittee,
is authorized to make from time to time, investigationsof !
the extent, character, and objects oi un~Americanpropaganda activities in the United States,
,!
the diifusion within the United States of subversiveand un-American propaganda that
is
instigated from foreign countries
or
of a domestic origin and
attacks the principle of the form of governmentas guaranteed by our Constitution, and !all
other questionsin relation thereto that
would
aid Congress
in any necessaryremedial legislation.
The Committee on lln-.~92inerican
Activities
shall
report to the House or to the
Clerk of the House it the House
is
not in session!the results
of
any such investigation, together with such recommendationsas it deems advisable.
For the purpose of any such investigation, the Committee on Un-American
Activities, or any subcommitteethereof, is authorized to sit and act at such times
and places within the llnited States, whether or not the [louse is sitting, has
recessed,or has adjourned, to
hold
such hearings, to require the attendance
of such witnessesand the productionof such books,papers, and documents,and
to take such testimony as it deemSnecessary. Subpenasmay be issued under

the signatureof the chairmanof the committee
or any subcommittee,
or
by any
memberdesignated
by suchchairman,and may
be
served
by
any persondesig-

nated by any suchchalrman or member.
VI

SEPTEMBER

4, 1953

Unrran STATESHoosn or REPRESENTATIVES,

Comurrrizn
on UN-Amnmoas
ACTIVITIES,
_
Hollywood,Ualzf.
EXECUTIVE STATEMENTS1

Executive
statements,
givenSeptember
4, 1953,at room512,7046

Hollywood Boulevard,Hollywood, C2illf., commencingat
2
Present:92Villiam
A. Wheeler,investigator.
TESTIMONY

or

LUCILLE

nitsmss

p. m.

BALL ARNAZ

The witness,having been previously duly sworn, testified as
follows :!
M r. 92V|ir:i~:i.nn.
State your full name, please.
Miss li.u.1.. Lucille Désiréc liall Arnaz.

Mr. 92Vni-:r:i.i-tn.
Where were you born?
Miss B.92i.L.Jamestown, N. Y.

Mr. 92Viii:i<:u:n.
You are presentlya residentof LosAngelesCounty?
Miss B,92|.i.. Yes.
,

Mr. 92Vm;s1.r.R.
And your profession?
Miss BALL. Actress; television actressnow.
Mr. 92V|ii~:i:Lsn.
Ilow lonv have you been engaged as an actress?

Miss
BALL.

Since
1933,

fguess;1932
or1933.

Mr. 92&#39;vllI~JELEli.
What
is your educationalbackground?
Miss Ii.-92|.i..
Just school,high school.

Mr. Wiiicizmzn.
Are youhereundersubpena
or areyouappearing
voluntarily?

MissBALL.
I
amappearing
voluntarily.

Mr. Wmzsnss.You graduatedfrom high school?
Miss li,u.L. No; I didnt evengraduate.
Mr. vvlil-ll-ILER.
You have beenemployedin motion-picturework
sincethat time, sinceyou left school?
MissB.92u..No; I wasin New York working.
Mr. Wm-:nt.i;n.How long haveyou beena residenthere?
Miss BALL.
1933.

Mr. Wuni:i.sn.You have pursuedacting sincethat time?
Miss BALL. Yes.

Mr. VVIIEELER.
For whomhaveyouworkedin thestudios?
1
O

1By directionof thechairmanand members
of theCommittee
onUn-American
Activities.
the followingexecutive
statements
havebeenprintedfor release.
2561

A

COMMUNISTACTIVITIES IN THE LOS mcanss

COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES IN THE LOS ANGELES AREA

Ml92éis§IBAi.L.
Goldwyn
and
Columbia
and
RKO
and
Paramount
and
Mr.92l7iii;ELi:ii.
I-Vhere
were
youemployed
in
1936?
Miss
IE.-92Li..
Itwas, I think,
RKO.It might
have
been
Columbia.

htlii.
;921Il&#39;1El.l-Jli.
92Vhat
92vas
your
salary
lJlllCk
1936, !l&#39;,~ll1
approxi-

ma e y.

_,

_

MissB.92!i.1Y..
92Vell,
if
lt;_W1LSl}
Columbia
I wasgetting
$75a week.

If itwas,l92l92
I was
getting
! $50.

lgfr.
9292
iii-:si.i-;n.
I_!uyouiave
anyscreen
credits
about
thattime?
N liss
BALL. might
have
been
getting
more
in
1936,maybe
$75.
ev<!u?
a
.;ep9 ,: i.&#39;etlits._bl?&#39;Iaybe
bitpart
here
and
there.
Idoubt
that,
»_V1I,possi
abitpart.
_
Di you ever resideat 1344
North
Ogden Drive?
.

es.

Mr. 92Vm:i=:i.iin.
VVhoownedthatresidence?

MissIEALL.
92Ve
rented
it. I dontremember
who
owned
it.
Mr.V92
HEEL]-ZR.
92Vhen
di_d
yourst register
tovote?
MissByALI.:
Iguess
thefirst
time
I ever
didwas
in
1936.
7l921r,.
92_92
ii_i~.i.i.i;ii.
Iwouldlike_to
hand
youa_photostatic
copy
of a

92
0tc1_
siegisti
ationandaskyouif that
is yoursignature.

l1giss$ai.i..
.lllil{rl
S_lll
my
handwriting.
_ theparty
umuitte
wl_ItliLl.:l£.l
l ton
will l note
that
that
you
intended
to
M535
Brim:
alnT9-3[6li11B
was
theCommunist
Party.
Mr. 92Viii~:i~:i.i-iii.
Yes.

Miss BALL.I guessso.

_tli/Ir .1_92Viii-:i:i.i:ii.
You
didregister
tovote
then
as3,Cgmynunigt
or
insinlgALL.
tovo§e
the
Communist
Party
ticket?
es.
rg/[Ii
1l923lEEi.i:ii.
92Vould
you
gointodetail
and
explain
theback§.as. ::.a:?:i.ir2&#39;.°&ia*
or
to
.-Comm-~
Miss
BALL
It en oa iagie
with
the
Lommuiiist
I arty?
usto7h
ad
&#39;_
gr.in_
ather,
Fred
Hunt.
He
lust
wanted
I1 We
111$K something
to
please
him.
I didii
t intend
to
vo t atway.
AsIrecall,
I didnt.
I a!ttrllitlfiethef
fltarted
years
agohe
was
a Socialist
aslong
as
fa¬h;1rI¬£liILlK;.!
dedis
the
only
E}l.
father
we
ever
knew,
my
gram}H .y .119!,ie when
I was
tiny,
before
mybrother
was
born.
ekiliiaslmy
brothers
only
father. _ _

capitalist
world

AREA 2563

wasprettygoodandit was
a littlehardtoreconcile

the two. 92Ve
didnt arguewith him
very

muchbecause
he had had

a couple
of strokes
andif hegot
overly excited,
why,he
would have
another one.

Sofinally
there
came
a.point
where
mybrother
was
21,_and
he

wasgoingto seethatFre dieregistered
to helptheworkingman,
which
was,

in his ideathen,the Communist
Party. At that time

itwasiit
athing
tohide
behind
doors,
tobeamember
ofthat
party.
&#39;
As I recall,because
of this he influenced
us. 92Vethougit we
Wanted
to do him
a
favor. We thoughtwe
could makehim happy.

1 at no time intendedto
vote

that way. And I rememberdiscussing

it withmymother,
howIcould register
andmakehimhappy.When
I gobehind
a curtain
tovote,nobody
knows
whom
I votefor.
-

He alsoconsidered
it a personal
victory
at
the timethat he had
the entirefamilyto register. He didnt inuenceusenoughat any
time to vote; at least,he didnt inuence me.

He inuencedus to give
a
greatdealof thought
to
whetherhe
wasright or wron
,
and we alwa s decidedhe waswrong,because

the
things
hewas
siouting
about
didnt
seem
tobepractical
forthis

country.He admiredthe workingman
andthe peasants
all overthe
world,the5-yearplanandanythingthat wasgreatfor theworkingmaii.

.

»

Mr. 9292&#39;iir.i:i.iaa.
He consideredthe CommunistParty as
a workingmans party?
.
Miss ].iAl.l.. That is all I ever heard. I never heard my grandfather use the word Coiniminist.
He never said that he read the

Daily 92Vorker.
Ile alwaystalkedaboutthe workingmaii.
~
i
He gotveryconfused
in hislatteryears,whenRussiaandwho got
togctlic-r?Russia
and Gerinanygot togetherand he got so he
couldntanswer
our&#39;questioiis
at all then. Andhewouldgetmadalid
changethe subject.He neverquitecouldfind out what had happeiiodto the workingnianafter that, I guess.
We were
never
able to keepamaid, althoughwe paid the highest

pricesweemlhlatl&#39;oi&#39;d
or theyweregetting
at
the time. My grand-

father

would
walk

out into the kitchen and&#39;see
a maid and
would

say,IV:-ll, whatisyournaiiie? How muchareyougetting?
!h, $20or $125
a week, or wh:itever
theywerebeingiaid.

Andhe
wouldsay,
Thatisnotaworking
wage.
lhatareyou

doinghere? _

.

V Delt!S]lOUg;_Y1li}lllS
vl&#39;lI8_ll0
had
been
aSOC1l1llSt,
asfarback
asEugene
I ve k,
an
I8
dwas
in
sympathy
with
the
workinginan
as
long
as
Inown,
anhetook
theDai
y ¢V !I&#39;l{1&#39;_
_

And
a
fter
a few timesof that, you know,they
would
leave. That is
just one instance.
Ile was alwaystalking to the garbagemaiiearly
in
the morning,

betterin
yhoioi
p8;S.iti0;3Sll0VGI
lost
achance
todowhat
heconsidered

theCominiinist
Party?
&#39;

or aiiybody
doing
any kindof
a menialtask. He wouldsay,VVhy
that
Rf?
ereme.ilnlt_niiich
tous_,
because
hewas
so radical
onthesubject
are you doingthat? VVhyai&#39;ent
you doingsomethingelse?
our
C}
sse;
Lpspoint
a
little
too
much,
actually,
probably,
during
Ile wasjust
a
fanaticon betteringthe world. That is as far as we
dom_&#39;1t]m1l°0i!,
t
B¢dli_S§
he
nally gotover
ourheat
s and
wedidn
t
knew,
and
that is why
we
could endorseit at
all.
hisS38]
t_gS
u Soqsiper
itanuisance,
butasadad,
and
hegotinto
P2|Mr.
,!9292"lll~1l£l.Ek.
Have
you
ever
been
a
member
ofthe
Communis
ri ht94il: eu,riiii
di ecme
so_vital
tohimthatthe
world iiiust
be
rl y .&#39;
togdo
alebeqti
a aly,
E1over
it,and
hewastrying
hisdamnedest
Miss
BAi.i..
No;
not
to
my
knowledge.
ti...faétorr
..£0
.1 f °.1.
esiiemlly
tkitchen,

°&#39;.k"£m*"92;
Mr. 92V|ii:i~:i.i-:n.
Ilavc
you ever beenaskedto becomea memberof
mi}
iaghmaii,
t t. ° "f""°%1.v
iemaid
inthe
the
studio
worker,

That

-.

ilei
We
along
withit wherever
i .and
. went
.
__ we
_ could
. Som
e-

times
it got
a
little ridiculous
because
my positionin theso-called
92

Miss BALL. No.
3l74753pt.
1---2

.

"

2564 COMMUNIST
ACTIVITIES THE
IN LOS
ANGEIJES AREA

_Mr. WIIEELER.
Did youever ati.end_any
meetings that
you later

d1iiss /3[QV¬ii§d
Communist
weiif}
meetings?
Party
ALL.
0.

COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES

IN THE

Miss BALL. That is right.

Los ANGELES
AREA

_

.

_

Mr. WilEELERlI
assume you
did not attend themeeting ofthe

Mr. 92Viini;i.i:ii.
Do youknow whether
or notany meetings
were
everheld
your
in
honie
at
1344
North
Ogden
Drive?
Miss BALL.
No, Iknow nothing
of t iat. I dontbelieve
it
is true.
M_r.9292
iii~:i:Li:|i. llow old were youin 1936.

Miss
BALL. I am
42 now;_24.p
_ _
_ Mr.92Viii_:i:Li=:n.
wouldlike
I
to
introduce_the aihdavit
of registra-

tion asLucille BallLxhibit No.1, Registration
No. 847584.

Ihedocument referred
to wasmarked Lucille
Ball ExhibitNo.

State central
committeeSacramento.
at

Miss BALL. Ididnt
what it
means.

even know

there was

_

one. I

still
don

Havgelyou
known
ever
individual
an
thebyname
of Emil
Freed?

rea I92IlilSb
ALL.
Inever
heard name
the
before, tomy
knowledge,
as I
.
Mr. Wui:i1Li;R.
Have you
ever -known
an individu.
Jacob
Jack
or Breger?
iit l btly
Miss BALL.
Not untilI readit today.

namef 0

Mr. 92V}IEEi.r_IR.
Are youaware that
you were
amemberof the
Central ,omniittee
of theConiiuunist Party
for theyear 1936?
Miss BALL.
Was7I aware
before you
told me,
you incan?

iigr.
92l92;IIII£Ll°.Nii.
1 es.
iSS
ALL.
o.

committee meeting in Sacramento?

Miss BALL.Never._ _

Mr. Wiim-:Li~:R.

I will

introduce this

._

as
Lucille

Ball Exhibit

No. 2.

It is dated the 15th dayof September 1936.

__

Exhibit No.

2 and was received in evidence.!
Mr. Wiiizi1Lna. I might say, for the record, that the last document

was obtained from the les of the secretary of state in Sacramento.
Also, there isno record of the proxies led by diiferent delegatesin

the olliceof thesecretary ofstate.

__

__

Iwould like to refer to the report of the un-American Activities
Connnittee in California for the year 1943, andrefer to page 127of

that document,
which
is aportion
of an
afdavit submitted
byrllena
M. Vale.
The aidavit
beginspage
on 122
and continues
tough
page 176,and bearsthe date of 23d ay of November 1942.
Iwould
like to
readportion
a
page
of 127.
Inthis
ailidavitshe

has aduiittedshe_was at
one timeameni er of the CommunistParty

and this
docunient discloses
that Emil
Freed was
adelegate
by nomi-

Party was iniide, Ireceived anotice to attend ameeting on North Ogden Drive,
Hollywood; althoughit was atyped, unsigned note,merely requestingmy pres-

nlilitionthe
to State
Central ,onimit.te_e
o_f the
Communistfor
Party

t at year. A_nd
he appointed
three individuals
as delegates.

Those appoiiited,
according
thetodocuinent,
are Jai-oh
Breger, 822
North
Orange
DTii92&#39;O;
red
Hunt,
1344
If
North
Ogden
Drive;
and Lucille Ball,1344 I92o_ri.li
Ogden Drive.
Now,
Iwouldlike tohand you
this document
and have
you give

8I1K4_ .X[!l£lIli1l.lOll
you desire.
that
kn is_s
l}fALL._
have
I explanation.
no
Ihavent_sign_ed
it. I dont
ow w_ere it came from,
or what. My nameIS misspelled.
The

.

__

Mr. l92iinisi.isn. I92Vell,
wouldlike tohand you
adocumeiit,
entitled

Appointment
Members
_oftheIt of
State
Central Coininittee
Meeting
at Sacramento
in the
Year 1936.
isstaiuped Coiiuuiinist
Party

-s

tknow

Mr. Wiiizuusa.Do yourecall whetheror not you werecontacted by
any individualto obtain from you your voting proxy at the central

MissBALL.
I
should saynever, tomy knowledge.
1 hafilid
w7asLr;cei92&#39;e&#39;1l]in
tra U
dis signe ucib L n_
8Viil _.l5illt-!t,!
.H
nu. us a i il.Vl o fregis_
ion
e
The document referred to was marked Lucille Ball

Ball and
dated the
19th day
of March
1936. y

3

2565

addressright;
is tlmtis a]]_

EI_§1%n
li{]l0W
t me
Freed.
Emil
never
I
heard
of Emil
Freed,
ifand
_ mi rec appointed
as
adelegateto theState central
committee

it wasdone without
my knowledge
or consent,

Mr. Q7-7III&#39;1Ei.Ei{.
Inotice
your grandfatlier,
Fred Hunt,
92vaszipalso

pointe as
adelegate
for theyear 19-iii.
92Vere aware
you of
that?
Miss
BALL.

No,Iwas not aivareof 1t_

-Mr. Wiii~:i~:_Li:ii.
you know
Dowho could
be responsible
for your
name appearing
on_ this
document? _

and sheis discussinghow shebecame amember. g
&#39;lhat wiI.hln
ii few days after

the Communist

and slated she was glad to loan her home tor aCommunist Party
new
members
class;
That the instructor.iniroduced himself
as Sidney Martin, but Ilater knew

him by the nameof SidneyDavidson. whichhe statedwas histrue name;
That there were about7 or 8other members ofthis class,but the only names

Irecall

are those of Iierb

Harris, an actor. whom Iencountered from time to

time within the ComniunistParty, and who took part in the play, The Blackguarii, which ran for several yearsin Los Angeles around1938 and1939;
and

Libby Jacobson,
who, in1939, was
active inconsumer cooperatives
in LosAngeies.

Ba? lI!]o
you have
any knowledge
of any
meetingsinheld
your
home,
Miss
Miss BALL. None whatsoever.

Mr. lViii1ELi~:n.
Are you
acigiainted
Rena
withVale?
Miss BALL.
Inever eardt enamebefore inmy life.

Mr. 92Viini~:Li:ii.
Are you acquainted with
or haveyou everbeen

MissvI,3ALL.
my
N0,1§X<&#39;8pt
grandfather.
that
what_you
mean?
r.iii:ELi.n. on stated
that
youwereIsappointed
without your

acquainted with

t

to
join

That on arrival at this address Ifound several others present; an elderly
niaii informed us that we were the guests ot the screen actress,Lucille Ball,
and showedus various pictures, hooks,and other objects to establish that tact,

acqu_ainted
with
Sidney

knowledgeconsent;
or
isthat right?
I

application

ence at the address at 8 oclock in the evening on agiven day, i knew it was
the long-awaited notice to attend Communist Party new members classes;

llglss
3ALL.
Possibly
grandfather,
my
Hunt.
Fred
i. 92viiLhLl:IR,
Do you
recall ifanyone contacted
you in1936 in

regardobtaining
to
proxy
your vote?
to

my third

Martin or Sidney Davidson?

Miss BALL. No, sir; Inever heard thename.

Mr._ WilBEi.ER.
Are youacquainted with
or haveyou everbeen
Herb Harris?

&#39;

Miss BALL. Inever heard the name. &#39;

Mr. Wiiiznuin.
Areeardyou
ilC
£lil.ll92l38d
Libby Jacobson?
with
t at name.

Miss BALL.Inever

av

4

COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES
IN
THE Los ANGELES
Aai~:A~ 2567;

~256 -5 CoMiviUN1s&#39;r
Aorivrrnzs LNTHE LOSANGELES AREA

_Mr. 92Viiai-:Li~:a.
Do youknow whether
or notyour grandfather,
Fred
Hunt, held meetings atthe home?

_

Miss BALL.Not to our knowledgeever, andhe wasalwayswith

someone. As we look back now, we cant remember at
any

time he

&#39;
_

_.

&#39;
&#39;

Miss BALL.
]Sei:,
didnft
I dTli¢:iyIwerelt]ry,Lng
go. n remem
regigll
myto
mind
to
where wemig it iave registere an cou
.
_.
Isnt this
whatishe
iLilll lll%1,tll!OUt&#39;f
Icouldnt_
remember hav

registration
thefor
year
1936Rirs.
for Désirée
Ball,and
itdiscloses
that shealso registered
to vote as aerson who intendedto atiihate

downtown,where
grandpa

tion is
Désirée

it didnt
tie up
for registration.
Icantexplain
it. But
that bears

with
the CommunistonParty
the
12tli day
of
June1936. What
rela-

_ Miss
BALL.

Ball to you?

My mother.

&#39;

of
the
Communist Party?
&#39;
Mr WiinrLLa
..
Miss
BALL.

.y Do on

know whether or not she was ever a member

Mr. WlIEEl.ER.I have a secondphotostat here,avoters registration,

munist Party.

&#39;
Miss BALL. Fred

E. Hunt?

&#39;
Mr.1?VVm~:i:Lr;a.
it looks
like
Well,
an
E. Whatis his
middle

initial
&#39;
Miss

12th daylof
June 1936,
and also
shows
he changed
vote
theDemoto
oveiiiber 18,

1940.

Ibelieve you testified that Fred C. Hunt was your grandfather?
Miss BALL. That is right.

Mr. lViiici~:Li~tn.
Is he living?
Miss BALL.

Mr. Wiir:ai.i-zit. Ihave a. third document here, apliotnstiit

davit of
registration, bearing thesignatureof
Fred

of
an

aili-

ll. Ball, who

with the Communist Party in the ensuing election

of
1936.
Itis also dated the 12th day of
June
1936. What relation
isFred H. Ball to youi
Miss BALL. Brother. _
Mr. WIIEEi.ER. Do you know whether or not he was ever amember
of
the
Communist Party?
Miss BALL. Not to my knowledge, nor to
his.

_Mr.

was something
likeagarage
andaag,likeavotingday. They
said

lmI0lllil;iT,llliiiivt%V
Iwould
have
if&#39;I
had
t
-i1gi:|eTal%glgit3i8d
_
7said
_
of
my voting. I would have
said voted
I
when
I wentin there,

I remember
feeling foxy
very
about
the thing, because
I registered.

We had
averybad feeling
we
_haddone that.
Ialwaysfelt would

be allright ifI didnt vote
it, ]ustto appease
grandpa. _

Mi". 92Viti:i:Lnii.
The aihdavitof
registration discloses you
votedin

the primary
for theyear 1936.
That would
be,Iassume,
in June.

92Viii~:i:Li1ii. 92Vhere
is your
brother

Miss BALL. Scottsdale, Ariz.

presently residing?

_Mr. Witi<:t:i.i-:n. Do
you knowwhether ornot hehas everbeen hivestigated by the Goverinneiit or
aiiv

&#39;

Miss
BALL.
&#39;Illt&#39;l1i.l
have
whfat
did
Itio0lllld
tgiere
thi1J.ti]ii_or
iii
Mr. 92Viii-:i~:i.i:it.
iet eputy
registrarobeen
vo ers
w
signe
iis
ocu-

meiit. is
ii Mrs.Dodd. Does
she mean
anything to
you!
Miss ll.-92i.i..
92Vhat did
you sayshe was?

Mr. I-ViiiCl1l.lIlt. Deputy
registrar of
voters.
Miss BALL.
No.
_

Mr. 92Viini:i.i~:ic.
She isthe deputyregistrar of_voters.She wouldbe

No.

intended to
aililiate

Street.
dollitdver
Ilimiember
golilg
down
thiitdfaziind
I remember
Ireal y rac
ell
my
rain over
a-year
perio
,_
_all

However, you
did notvoteinthe general election.

BALL. Fred
C.

&#39;. Win-ii-ii.i~:n.
Mr.
Fred
C. Hunt, rather. This document is
dated the
crat on

gone down
where they
said
teywent.
They
Said they
ilvtligtligy
wanted_ us
to go,way own ownie
S

talkedto
_youlast year,
that I_voted.
You said
you
_had no reoordt

Not to my knowledge.

signed byFred E.Hunt, whoalso intended
to atliliatewith the Com-

Q;

that?

was everalone, because
he hadhad two strokes andwe hadanurse
that lived there
at
the time,and therewa.she wasnever alonethat
we remember;
no evidence
of
any meeting ever
heldbeing
in
our house
when we were
out.
This is something weknew nothing about. _
Mr WIIEEI Ln I also have aliotostatic
co y of
an
aidavit of

I

Mr. Win-ii-:Li:n.
I notice
now that
your mother
and your
lI¬l&#39;0il9

graiidfatlier
registered
all on
the
12th day
olf dune
0lehpgxcggo
registered on
the 19thday of
March. Is teie any sg,

agency or employer who does Gov-

-ernment contract
work in
regard to this Communist registration?
,Miss BALL. Yes; he has.

Mr. 92Viii:isi.i:n.
What wasthe outcome
of
this investigation?

Miss BALL. Ile has always beencleared.
_Mr. 92Viii:r:Li:n. Youmean heretained his employment?

Miss BALL.Ithink so. I dont know.
He,
can tellyou moreabout
that. Idont think he has alwaysretained hisemployment; no. If
during the war there was ahint of
that suspicion, the investigation
probably went on, but you
didnt
retain your employment.

the
individual
in whose
prtésence
would
youthat
lsigndotlruigent.
92Vell now,the aidavit oregistration on tie reverse Site ISC oses
that yoii
signed two
petitions the
for year
1936, tl_ie_Freed
nominati_ng

petition for the 57thassemhly district
or, rather,it is a sponsor
cert|iicaie. This doeuinent. was
also obtained
from thefilesof
the secr_et_ary
of
state and l will introdut-eit in the recordas L_ucille
Bail Ex_&#39;h_ibit
3.
&#39;lhe ilot-iiineiit
referred towas markedLucille Ball Exhibit No.
3 and was i&#39;tt&#39;
in evideiire.!
l92&#39; l _
Mr. 92Vi|i:r:i.i-in. I will

read the following from

the document:

i, the lllllll-I.92li.{ii &#39; l. sponsor
for Emil Freed for the Communist Party nomination to the oIii t- oi nit-niht-r oi the iisseiubly .&#39;i7lh
district, tn
be vott-ii for at
the
priiiiiiry .&#39;l92 ii<IIl
to he hi-Iii on
the
25th day of
August
1936, hereby assert as
folio ws.
My l{lltl92Vltll;_&#39;|&#39;
oi the said Emil Freed is sniliclent to warrant my urging his
tlt*<llull to the ollire of
llllllllI l
of
tiie iisseinbiy 57th district anti, in iiiy
opinion,
he is it|ll_92&#39; qualitiedim-iitaily,
morally, and physically-for the said oiee and
siiouhi he t-it-1-ted toll it.
I nni tl qiuiiied elector of
ION Aligeles County and
I ain It&#39;L&#39;l.92itI&#39;Pll
ailiated with the
as Communist lnrty and am not at this time
iiSlL&#39;ll
of &#39;i&#39;
any other t-ertltit-ate iioiiiinnting any other candidate for the abovell:illlt&#39; l otiiee,
or in vase there
are
several places to_ lie lled in the nliove-iniiiird
oiiii-e, lllIl92&#39;|
not signed more certicates than there are places to be lled in the
above-nunied otilce.
.

I would like to refer to
the second pageof
this document, under
line 23, and there appears thesignature of
Lucille
Ball, 1344 Ogden
Drive, and occupation artist. Itis dated June16, 1936. Is that your

signature [indieatingji

COMMUNIST ACTIVITIESIN THE Los ANGELES AREA 2569

2568 COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES INTHE Los ANGELES AREA
"Miss BALL. I would say"it was.

Mr. VVin:i-:Li~:ii.
Do yourecall signingthe document?
.
Miss BALL.
No;
but Irecall at that time doing what I could to
ap
ease grandpa and
this isjust partof it.

Kt that
time didnt
it
probably
seem very
importantappoint
to
this

man.

Mr. WHEELER.You will note what I read
to

you, that before sign-

ing thedocument
itstates that youknow theman, and
he ismorally,
physically, andmentally qualied.

Miss BALL.
It is Somethingsigned
without
I

looking atit, or if I

looked at it, it didnt seemlike a big thing
at
the time.
Mr. WiiE1~:LER.
I believe your
&#39;andfathers signature appears on

Mr. Wiii~:i:i.nii. It was also circulated by the Southern California
Councils for Constitutional Rights, 129 92Vest
Second Street,room 326,

Los Angeles,
Calif. Have you everheard ofthis second
organization?

MissBALL.
No.

up
with

1 havesince then,
probably. I imagine that
ties

the un-American
business activities;
constitutional rights
they

are all standing up for now.
Is
that
what
itiiieans?
Mr. 92Viii:i:Li-1a.
VVell, it means uioreor lesslike this:

An act tit-tintiig crimiiiai syndlcaltsm and sabotage, proacribing certain acts
anti
inetiiotis
in connection therewith and tn pursuance thereof and providing
penalties and punishments therefor.

Miss BALL.
If

Ihad ever seenthat, Iwould have never signed it.

there,well
asas
thewhole famil
F

Did 1 sign it?

father. My iiame appears
on thesecond page
of thisdocument. Our

signature
ascertain
to theifiiitlivigual
isaregistered
voter.

MissBALL.
Yes, Fred, myself,
and my
mother, my
andgrand-

names appear
there. It is possible
that thiswas handed
to usjust asa
list of names, withoutthe strong-souiidiiig
sponsor certicate
on the
front of

it.

I dont recall that I ever heard anything which right now sounds

very strong,
and impossible
to sign
at this
day and
age, but
Imight
have becauseat that time I was of amind to try to do somethingtiat

Mr. 92Viii-:i:Li~:R.
92Vell, the
voters registration
indicates thatyou did
sign it. In other words, whena etition is signedthey checkeach

When it is ascertaiiiedthe individual is aregistered voter they mark
on his voters registration, this articular
number, l64.F which

indicatesperson
the rcgistereditliil
who
that
sign
petition.
Iliowever,
I have been unable to locate the actual petition.

Miss BALL. Because youregister you are in sympathy with all this
[iiidicating] &#39;1

would
please
daddy. It just didntseem likean iinportaiit,awful
thing todo,like
it
does these
days. But.to
my knowledge,didiit
I

aparticular
document requesting
that
the Crimiiial Syndicalisin
Act

criminal syndicalism&#39;t

you would be againstthe Criininal Syndicalism Act.
Miss B.-92i.L.
Well, anyway, l dont know what itmeans.

ever see
the rst part of this certificateIsigned.
Mr. Wiii~:r.i.i:R.
Are you familiar with the words or the phrase
Miss BALL.No, butit is
pretty.

What doesit mean?

92Vhat does itmean?

Mr. WIIEELER.
According tothe votersregistration for the year
1936, the
reverse part
of it, you signedapetition 164-F.
This articular petition wasfor the repeal ofthe CriminalSyiidi-

calism Kct
in California.~

Mr. Wiii=:i-:Li-tn.
The Communistswere taken to court and tried for
and-

Miss BALL.And Isigned something else?
Mr. 92Viii:i-:i.i:n.
You signedthis petitionto takethe CriminalSyndi-

calism
Act

off the statutes of the State of California.

Miss BALL.Idid; that is, without my luiowedge. MayIsee the

signature?

Mr. 92Viii~:i:Li:ii.
Unfortunately, they have beendestroyed, those

particular petitions.
Miss BALL. By whom?

~

- Mr. 92ViiF.ai.i:ii. They
ale retainedafew yeais, underlaw, andthey
can he destroyed.

.

Miss BALL. Was this the sametime
we

were Being Nice to Daddy

Week? ;

Mr. WiIEEi.ER.
It wasin theyear 1936.However,I do
have aphoto-

stat ofa sample
copy ofthe petition
which was
dated July
10, 19236,
and this
particular
petition wascirculated bythe
California Conference for
Repeal the
of Criminal
Syndicalism Act
at 68Haight Street,
San Francisco.Calif. Have you
ever

Miss BALL.
No.

mean, if aerson

be rcniovcd from the statutes, it would seem to indicate

signs

to me that

_Mr. 92Viii:i-:Li-xii. You
were personally
contacted bymyself, airinvesMiss BALL.

Yes.

Mr. Wiiizi-:i.i:ii. You recall the date as April 3, 1952?
Miss BALL.
Yes.

Mr. 92Viii-:i~:Li-tit.
Are you
acquainted

with the Committee for the Fiist

Ainciidiiiciit?

Miss BALL. 92Vhat doesit mean?

criminal syndicalisin,

indicate as such. I

tigator for the Ilouse Committee onUn-American Activities?

Mr. WIlEEl.ER. Criminal syndicalism?
Miss BALL.

Mr. 92Viii:i:i.i~:ii. Itwould

heard of that
organization?

Miss BA|.i.. Am Iat-quaiiitcd

with it?

Mr. 9292&#39;iii:i-:|.nn.
Yes.

Miss l§.92|.L.Not to my knowledge.

,_Mr. lViii:i:i.i:n. Ur were you amember of the Committee ofthe
First. Aniciidint-iit&#39;t

Miss B.92LL.Not to my knowledge.
Mr. lvlllill-!l.i-Zlt. 92Vell,your naine
is
inentioiicd in

the Dailv

Peoples

92Vorld, the
issue. of-.t.oht>.r
28,
1947, page 1,columns 5and , as one
of the

high pcrsoii:i|ities

Coiiniiittce of

the First

who were sponsoring or

That coinniittee was forined here in Hollywood to
gressioiial hearings in 1947.

Miss BALL.
Refresh

that. Did I sign
that,
Mr. 92Viii:aLi:ii.

That I

anieiiiber

of the

Aiiieiiiliiieiit.

oppose the con-

iny memory on it. I cant imagine e92&#39;er
sirming

too? 92Vas
itunder an assumed
nanu-&#39;4 D
doiit know.

&#39;lhere was
arcfereiice

to it.

vI 92!IIi|siIIl3.92LL.
is the
Peoples
WhatWorld?
Is
that like the
Daily
92 &#39;
.

stair.
Wiii~:i:Li:n.
Yes;
aCommunist
publication
theofWestern
it .5Miss BALL. In 1947? That certainly was for grandpa. Grandpa wasgone bythen. I cant imaginedoing anything for these people.

2570 COMMUNIST

ACTIVITIES IN

THE LOS

COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES
1N THELOS ANGELES
AREA 2571

moatss &#39;AiiF.A

If I was lioodwiiiked into it, with one of those long democratic
souped-up names,
that is something else. Iwould like to see it. Could
I see tliiit?

Mr. 92Viii2ai.i:ii.Idont

have the copy of the Peoples World for

that date.

Miss IiAl.I-.Am I;,il]!]!OSQtI
to havesigned something
as beingin
syiiipathy?
IMr.

Wiiasi.aR. Your_

name was
used

a call in the afternoon.

as in

Idont

know who called me.

assume now-I did then--it was the Screen ActorsGuild, but
be wrong.

Idont

know who called me now. It

was soiiietliin

I

Ican
that

was through
tl union
or the
studio woiildiit
have felt
coinpelIed to

Send meoff aset and holdup productionuntil Igot back. It had
nothing to do with me.

Igot the call to go to aradio station. As Iremember, it was

M-G-M-it may not have been. Iremember an executiveexcused me
and sent. me to this broadcast.

1 got down thereand said,92Vhat amIsupposed to do?
She said,Dorothy Petei-senwlioever she issbe is ill. 92Ve have

to go on the air.

Iliavciit seen herin years; Idont know her.
She said,92Vill youread this?
It 92vasa long petition, or whatever you call them, as I recall. As

I rec-_allI am not.sure ofthisit was about the Jkies upstate
California, Fresnoor someplace, aboutadmitting the
Okies.
Iread it.

They thanked nie, andthey sentme backto work.
I dont know how long after that that it was that Iwas called down-

town in
an FBI ollice and askedwhy I did it. Apparently, it was
wrong. It was myIirst knowledge
it waswrong.
I had no answer
at all, because
Ihadiit done itof my oivn volition.
Ihad been sent
there.
It
didiit seem
wrong togo some
place the
studio

had sent you.

.

Itried to explainwhy Ihad done it. I had no
reason exceptIhad

been called.

Mr. 92Viii~:i-:i.i:ii.
How lonf
ago did
you to
gothe
FBI?
MISS BALL.
Ihave no iea. I have no ideawhenIdid this broad-

cast. I have noidea howlong after
that
the first

time I

they calledme. But that is

ever-

Mr. IV1-iaisia-zii.
It was3 or4years agoi

to add-forthe recordi

-Mr. 92Viinai.r:ii. Did
they discuss
with youat thattime
&#39;
Miss BALL. Musthave been
, 8, 9years ago; maybe
10. Therewere
two broadcasts.Idont know whosent meon the rst one, and I

dont knowwhat thesecond one
was about.It was something that

everybody was
doin 1. You justget askedto dothese things.I again

was called
in atthe liist
minute. &#39;0

I had nothing to do with whatever it was. I

I wasdoing, butyou assumed
at thetime,
when

very happy
to

you would like

__

_

have this opportiinity to

discuss

all the things that have cropped up, that apparently Ihave done
wron

.

Iagin
aware
only
ofthing
onedid
I that
was wrong,
and at
that
the timewasiit wrong,but apparentlynow it is, and tia_t was registering because
my &#39;l{I.Il lftltl928l
wanted usto. Iat no time thought

it was
the thing
to Io,
nordid
I ever intend
to vote
in the
Iresidential

election. 1guess itwas atthat tiine. I dontknow. To my knowledge
Ididiit vote, but Idid register. Since then Ihave never doneanything

knowingly againstthe UnitedStates.
_
Ihave never doneanything for Communists, to
my knowledge,at
any time. -I havenever contributed
money orattendeda.
meeting or
ever had anything to do with people connectedwith it,
knowledge tliev were.
I am not a Communist now.

if to my

I never have been. I never wanted

to be. Nothing in the world could everchange mymind. At no time
in my life have&#39;I
ever been in sympathy with anything that even
faintly resembled

it.

Iwas always opposed[indicating] to how my grandfather _felt

about any other way this country should be run. Ithought

things

were just fine the way they wei&#39;e.

It. sounds alittle weak and silly aiid corny now, but at the time
itwas very iiiiportant because we
knew wewci&#39;ent going
to havedaddy
with us very long.

lime. But

If it

made him happy, it

was important

at the

Iwas always consciousof the fact Icould go just so far

lo iiiake him happy. Itried not to go any fartlier.
In those days that was not it big, terrible thing
to do. It was
almost as terrible to be a Republicaii in those days. Ihave never
been too civic-niiiided and
certainly never political-iiiiiided in
my
life.

Since Igot
little strongly

any feelings on the subject at all, we went. iiiaybe a
Democratic one

year
and

we
got

into trouble

doing

that. &#39;Ihat
was whenRoosevelt was
still alive. VVe werealways

very Illll &#39;ll
for Roosevelt and did everything that Mr. and Mrs. Roosevelt asked us to do, as
all
of Hollywood, or as most of Ilollywood,
was doing.

He was the only President Ihad ever known. It was a wonderful

Miss BAi.i.. It is more than that.

didnt know what

you arecalled bya

union or one of.yourI dont know who calledme. I know both times

I wascalled to
replace someone.

Miss BALL.
No. That
was agparently
]ust something
Ihadread

on the
radio&#39;I
shouldnt have. Iont_know.
_ _,
Mr. 92~Viii:i:Li;ii.
Do you have anything inaddition
Miss BAi.i.. Iam

Miss BALL.92Vas itused
or did I sign something?
Mr. 92Viii:i:i.i:R.
I haveno
knowledge of your signing.
.Miss"BALi..Fine. Then I have no
knowledge of signingit. However,Ido recall Iwas at astudio, and Iwas working ona picture,
and Igot

Mr. 92-Viii-:i:i.isii.
Did youdiscussthis
material today withthe FBI or
did theyquestion you
regarding yourvoteris registration?
_

thing to get out and help him with his March of Dimes or bond tours
during the war, and we were very busy. Never in my life liiive Ihad

any other feeling than the Communistswere wrong; that anybody in
this town would dare to think of cliangin any of it or
complaining

about what
they had
is just
the most
riificulous thing
Ihaveever

heard of.

Icci-tainl.y was never in sympatliy.with

the Dmytryks-I

cant

reiiieinber any of the other names.
How we got to signing a few things, or going among some people

that tlioiight. differently, that has happenedto all of us out here in the
81&#39;I4758pt. 1+;

-y

2572 COMIVIUNIST

ACTIVITIES IN

"rm: LOS

ANGELES AREA

last or
1012
years, itand
isunfortunate,
Icertainlyewill
but do any-

thing in

the world to
prove

that
we

made abad.mista

week or a couple of weeks, ti-yin r to
appease

COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES IN THE LOS ANGELESAREA 2573

by, for one

an old man. But

there has
never been
any thought,
olf belonging
or wanting
to belong

..Mrs. BALL.

Mr. Wiinizuzii. 1 have no further questions. Thank you for your

Mrs. BA1._i..No. _

cooperation.
TESTIMONY or

Mr. 92Viii:i:nnit.Do you know whether or not any Communist Party

DESIRJEE E. BALL

meetings were
held inyour residence at1344 NorthOgden Drivein
Hollywood? _

The witness, having been previously duly sworn, testied as
followsz!
Mr. 92Viiisi:u:a. 92Vill you state your full
name,
M rs.
BALL.
Désirée E. _Ball.

Mrs. BALL. Never was, to my
recollection.
Mr. Wiii:i~:i.i:R. I would like to
refer
to the booklet on
un-American

please?

activities in
California
for the year 1943, and to page 127 of this
document. What Iam referring to
is areprint of an ailidavit sub-

Mr. lviirinnizu. VVhere doyou resently reside?

Mrs. BALL.
At 22143.Cantlay
gtreet
in
Canoga-Park.
Mr. 92Viii-znnizii. Your

mitted byRena M.Vale, whowas atone timea memberof the Com-

munist Party in Los Angeles. Her atlidavit begins on page 122, and
carries through page 175.
_
Now, Miss Vale, in writing this aflidavit, this
particular
part Iam
referring to, is writin about
how
she becamea member
of
the Coni-

occu
iation?

Mrs. BALL.
Housewife and
mother.
Mr. Wiiisi;i.i:u. And grandmother.
Mrs. BALL.

Yes.

,

Mr. 92V||i:i~:i.i:n.92Vliat is your relation

to Lucille

Mrs. BALL.
Mother.
Mr. 92Viii:n|.i:u. Your relation
Mrs. BALL.
Mother.

H. Ball?

to Fred

munist Party.
Iwouizd
-like-to-readyou:
i.hiS.t0

Ball Arnaz?

&#39;1liat within
afew days utter my third
application
to join the Communist
Party was made, Ireceived anotice to attend a nieetlng on North Ogden Drive,
Hollywood; although it was atyped, unsigned note, merely requesting my presence at the address at 8 o&#39;clock
the
in evening on agiven day, Iknew it was
the long-awaited notice
to
attend Communist Party new members classes;
That on arrival at this address Ifound several others present; an elderly
mun informed us that we were the guests of the screen actress. Lucille Ilall,
and showed us various pictures, books, and other objects to establish the tact.
and stated she was glad to loan her home for aCoiiuiiuiiist Party new members

Mr. 92Viii-:i:i.i:n.VVhat wasthe relationship of Fred Hunt to you?
Mrs. BAi.i.. Ile was my father.

I was his daughter.

Mr. VViii~:i:i.i:i<.Did you ever reside at 1344 North Ogden Drive?
Mrs. B.=92Ll.. Yes.

Mr. Wiii~:r.i.i:|t. Do you recall rervistering to vote as an individual

who intended
to alliliate
with theGOIHIIIIIIIISL Party?
Mrs. BAi.1..

clglslilll the
instructor Introduced
himself Sidney
as
Martin,
butIlaterknew

Yes.

him by the name of Sidney Davidson, which he stated was his true name;
&#39;Iluit there
were about 7or 8 other members of this class. hut the only
names
Irecall are those of II:-rb Ilarris, an actor, whom Iencountered trom time to
time
within
the Jomniunlst Party, and who took
part
in the play The Blackguard, which ran for several years in Los Angeles around I938 and 1939; and
Libby Jacobson, who, in 1931!, was active in consumer cooperatives in Los
Angeles. &#39;
&#39;

Mr. lViisi;|.i~:u. Ihand you adocument and ask you if you can

identify this. This isapliotostat of votersregistration hearing
your

sigpature.
&#39; Irs.
B.-92i.i.. _
You
want me to identify

my signature here, youmean?

Mr. 92Viii-:|~:i.i:ii. Yes.

Mrs. BALL. Yes. This here Ididnt write though, did 1?

Did you have any knowledge of this?
Mrs. B.92i.i.. Never, never. l!id they tell
you
what date was this, now?

Mr. 92Viir.i~;i.r.n. No.

Mrs. BAi.i.. lt says, My full name is, but
wrote that
[indicating].
Mr. 92Vnr.i-:i.i:u.The bottom signature?
Mrs. BA|.i..

Ididnt

write that.

I

a nurse

Mrs. I&.92i.|..
This girl came tomy housein 1936. She isaregistered

Yes.

nurse, afriend of mine, and she was there for 6years.
92Ve nc92&#39;er
lof tthe house becausedaddy had these heart attacks, and

Mr. 92Viii:i-:|.r:u.
92Vould youstate the reason you registered to vote

things. In
fact, he was bedridden agood share of the time and she
was supposedto be there, you know, and give him ashot if it was

Mrs. B.~92I.l..
On account of my daddy wanting us to. My father
was an
old man, and that was the one thing
that
he
thought was all
right and wanted usto do it. 92Vedid it to pleasehim.
Mr. lViii:i:|.i-za. Are you here under subpena or are you appearing

necessary, and everything like

that.

Iasked her if there wasever a meeting, or anything, whenIwasnt

there; thatImight have been
out. Iwas going toHollywood High

voluntarily?

at the time, eveningclasses.
I asked her yesterday if she ever knew of anybody being there to
ameeting. She said to her knowledge shehad never known
of
it

Mrs. BAi.i.. Iam appearing voluntarily.
Mr. lViinn|.i~:u.92Vere you
ever a member of the Communist Party?
No.

that Ihad

Mr. 92V|ii~:ni.|cu.
This wouldbe therst part of the year 1937.

as aCommunist?

Mrs. BALL.

No.

Mr. Wiiiziini-in. Did you ever attendany CommunistParty meetings,
that you have knowledgeof!
_

to the Communist Party.

i

because daddy
always went
to bedearly and
shesaid,
I
am sure
if
thsre had
been anybody
inthe front room
I wouldhave known
about

Mr. 92ViiEr.Lsa.
Have youever beenasked tojoin the Communist

Party? _

it

-I said,
Were there two
people? &#39;

I tlnnk they canconstitute an&#39;ieeting_two people.

I

1

2574 COMMUNlST

COMMUNIST 1lc&#39;rivi&#39;ru-is
IN THE Los ANGELES AREA
2575

AC&#39;IlVl&#39;Ill~}S
THE LOS
IN ANGELES ARI-IA

She said not to her personal knowledge; she had never known of

anybody coining there.
Mr. VIII-llililill. 92Vhat is
her
&#39;4

&#39;
name?

-Jack Breger.

Mrs. BALL. Elaine L. Stewart.
Mr. W lll-1lil.RR. Where does she reside?

Mrs. ll.92|.i.. She is with me now. It

Mrs. BALL. Oh. _
Mr. WiiEr.LER. You testified

_

happens she is back with me

again. Idont. recollect anyof those names.
Did you, Liicille?

F

Miss BALL.

,{:&#39;.
r
~=

No.

Mr. 92Viii-:i~:1.i:ii.
92Ve.re
aware
you that
your daulghter,
Lucille Ball,

and yourson, FredBall, and your father,Fred Iunt, all registered
during t.lieyear 1938as
with the intentionto
affiliate with the Coniinnnist Party?

-

b.

&#39;P

or Jacob Breger?

No.

Mr. 92Vm:i:i.i-:n.
Do you
recall anyone
coming
your
to residence
and

requesting thefamily to
sign certain petitions
Mrs. l§.~92LL.No.

Mr. 92VI|i:i>.i.i:n.Are you aware you signed a nominating petition

place Emil Freed on
the

i
I

to

Mrs. BALL.

1942.

Mr. 92Viii;eLi;_n.
Do you
know whether
or not
he was
adelegate,
{your
father, Fred
Hunt, was
adelegatza
to the
central committee
o the

Coinniunist Part

in the

ear 1936

M rs.
BALL. No!;
Illi1V6!ll0
knowledge
that.
of

.

»

5Mrs.BALL.
N0; he was
never away
from Hollywood
after we
came

daddy put in front of me. Iwouldnt

told.

Ihave

know whether it was that

Mr. VVi1i:i~:i.i~iu.
Referring back to the exhibit introduced
mony of Lucille Ball, Iwould like to read this to
you:
&#39;
° &#39;
in my opinion, lie is fully qualled, mentally, morally,
for the said oire and should be elected to tlll
it.

This would

indicate that

no recol-

you had certain knowledge

in the testi-

and physically,

of the indi-

name on top of it, as a rule? Iimagine that is what happened, and
Ididnt read it, Iain sure.
Mr. 92Viisi:i.i:n. Your signature appears on the second page, signature 21.

Mrs. BALL. That is my handwriting.

Iwas looking to see if any

of these other names were anv ofmy neighbors.

I~Ie. musthave bronglit

it home,if we signed it. We justsigned itthinking hewas asmart

man.

Idont see any of my neighbors there.

Mr. 92Viii:i:i.i-in.
The petition was circulatedby Jacob Breger.
Mrs. BALL. Jacob Breger? You mean
daddy
couldnt havebrought

it home?
I 92-

y Mr.92Viii:ia1.r.ii.
year
92Vlhat
did
hepass away!

or not.

it because Iwas

Mrs.
BALL.
In thosethings,Mr.
IVheeler, apetition, whatever itis,
isnt therealways the.
petition andthen theslip whereyou signyour

1

about
Iallways
it,thought
gave
they
ii.
card
you
if you
were
meni
a.

ber.
Iwent
throughwallet
hisw;l tiere
l2lB
ie
had
the ogly
personal thin
0u know when he iassed awa
was no car .

lection of it. Ido knowImust have signed,probably, papers
that

aware of

vidual.

i&#39;.

and heardpeople say,Remember,they
carry
acard, and that.
Whenhe
iassed away, asItold Mr. Hickox,when wewere talking

Mr. ll/iiisi:Li;i:. 92Vonld youhave knowledgewhether or not he attended sucha.
meeting in Sacranieiito? Was his health suchhe could

Mrs. .li.92|.L. Iam
&#39;-

ballot in the year 1936?

So far as beinga member,I

IineaiiI have neverbeen able
toyou know,
when you
have read

Mrs. BALL. Inever heard of the nian before, to my recollection.
Imean Imight have heard of it out in 1936, or whenever this 92vas,
but Imean the name doesnt ring abell at all.
Mrs. BALL.

If he
saidwas
it right,
all Ijustnaturallyinfell
with
him pacify
him. Otherwise,
Iwent
through
lota.
of
i sandbuts and
thmgs.

dont know
how anyone
could
tell
you weremember.
a
That
1S what

Mr. 92vlll~1l-ILICR.
Are you acquainted with Emil Freed?

Mr. 92VllEl&#39;1l.l1R.
Do yon know Jack
Breger

all right
we d}id
it. 1;opdsee,§
gid anyway.
it, Icant
say we.
I
ren i.___
_,

dont nowwatmyci

Mrs. BALL.Iknow he re
istered.

at the same time.

Mrs. B.-92|.L.My daddy.

air
v,.
ITi
M

no doubt
butthat
Isiggedfit.
I edgigt
etver
retiiiemlber
signingmean,agyth
dadd &#39;
hadn ta !rove
0 .
111
ues ion um, ecause,
he
WtI,S
so rm
inphis beliefs
and everytliing
that he
if thought
it was

a member of the Communist arty

Mr. 92Viii:i:i.i:n.Who did you say was responsiblefor this?
I
1,-"

ou didnt know him.

Mrs. BALL.
Inever
heardthe
ofy man,
thatIcanrecall. Theile
is

Mr. WiiimLi-iii.
Do you
hail/;aknowledge
any?
or
whether
not
ie
was

Mrs. BALL. You meanregistered to
vote?
l92lr.92Vni:i:Li:R. Yes.
Mrs. BALL. Yes. we all did

Mr. 92Vin=.:icLi=:n.
Iam not sayin he couldnthaye broughtit home;

no. However,
the person,
the individual
circulating
petition,
the wa

"

<

to to b&#39;aci&#39;a|nent.o&#39;t

out. here. He never was anywhere. .

l92liss B.92LL.
He couldiiteven godowntown tothe ParamountTliea-

ter, unless there was someone with him.

Mr.
92Viii:i:Li~:u. Do you recall whether or not your daughter, Lucille
Ball, was adelegate to the Central Coiimiittee of the Coinniuiiist
larty of the State of California in 1936?
Mrs. BALL. No. Iwoiildnt have any reason to think she was, because Inever

heard about

it.

Mr. 92Viii~:i:i.i-;n.
]!o you recall whether or not she may have goneto
Sin-raiiu-iito in the year 1936?
Mrs. li.92LL. Iknow she didnt. Those things Iwould positively renieinher, if she had done that.
Mr. 92Viii;i-:Li-in.92Ve.ll,Ihave no further questions, and if you have

anything you would like to add for the record, you can certainly say
whatever ou

desire.

»

Mrs. BILL.
Idontknow. Daddy
being old
and being
ill and

everything, this,as Itold Desi,Ihave always feltwe tiguredI felt
in some ways fortunate,

that he unis only interested in

working people. That isall

we ever
heard

helping the

fi&#39;omwas
him,helping

the working people. You know, that is, he felt sorry for the guy

1
COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES

2576
COMMUNIST ACTIVITIESTies
IN LOS
ANGELES AREA

that didiit
have as
much, like
the garbage
man, and,
things like
that.

It washis sole
purpose
inhelping the guy
thatdidii
tliave
I think we had
alot of
out-of-work people at
that
time,

anything.

andwe
just

guredthere
was no
harm to it,although
Iwasntin favorof
it, and
we liditto pacify him.Ihad always voted
for Roosevelt,
and Ijust

"l&#39;ll0tlI told
him atthetime,Isaid,Well, wecould register
Democriaat.Republican
or
and
vote theway wewant to._
_

But
he
wanted
totus
d<¬
it that
Way,
We
so did
it, never
dreaming
i
&#39;
r
iithin
iat was wron
.
weAsefi irdd.]sniii;
are conceriied,
dliiltlign
he had
some influence
over

I
.1!
-1.
,-:

il

a ._

or my
son, Fred,wereconnected
in
any waywith theCommunist
movement. We
were very
close. We
lived inthe same
house. They

didnt havepeo lecome inor holdmeetings.

_,

In
the rst pqace,
Iwould
never have
allowed
meeting.
a Idont

care how
much he
would argue
with nie,ifhe had eversaid tohold
aiiieetingin myhouse,
Iwould have argued
to apoint.we would
have
asevereIlfglllilttllt. We never didthat withhim. He never asked
If Iliadnt had this nurse inmy home to
look

__

after hiinI

She gsaid,
Never. She
was sure
she would
have heard
people

thing.

Mr. VVHEELER.
Well, Ihave nothing furtherto askyou. Thank you
~

Mrs. BALL.
Iwould
like ask
to you
a. kuestion:

Ifyou register justasaCommunist, oes thatmake youamember
Communist Party? That is what I have never been ableto

nd out; if they
say

we
are

amemberand wehave done
this, doesthat

make youamember because youregistered?
Mr. W1im:1.i-za. No. There
has been
evidence-MP8. BALL. Imean from the evidence.

Mr. 92Viii:i;Li;a.Of
other
who are not members of
the

people registering to vote as Communists
Communist Party.

Whei-eiipoii the statement of
DéSlIé6 E. Ball was concluded.!
TESTIMONY OF

just

yesterday
her,
asked
Between
you
and
me,do you
ever remember
a
meetin

FRED HENRY

Mr. lvlll-II-ILl&#39;!R.
State your full
name,
M I. l§.92i.i.. FredHenry liall.

never as
much

Mr. liAi.i..

could hide
yourself

in one place. I

as evensaw a man stop by and talk to him. _

He talkedto
the garbageman and
the groceryman
and themailman.

That was his little clique. _

Of
course, it wasa standingjoke aroundthe house.
Lucille

would

say, Now,So~and-So coming
is
to
pick meup. Pleasekeep daddy

occupied
he wont
sostart one
onof
those
editorials
theinDaily

Wor er.

Icouldnt kee any help in
the house. Ihave heard himsay thisto

*0
i
$1
5 . 1

my hélpI
woiild hear
from the
other room
or somethiiighe
would

.:f»l
}.vl

samemoney
she

say, Sitdown. Sit down.
__
_
.
92Vell, he
said, l have to nish
my
ironing, orsomething.
He would
say,
Sit down. Sit down. And then he wouldstart
on thiseditorial orsomething he
wanted herto listento, andhe would
say, VV
hat areyou workingso
hard for? Why arent yougetting the
is getting [indicating] &#39;1

Naturally, theyonly hadto hearthat
about

three timesand they

would walk out on me. They would either say, This man is nuts.
I dont want
to
be aroundhim, or Maybe he is right; he is trying to
organize us.
I
4
That was his onethemeif they organized, ifthey joined a union-

he said,She hasto belongto aunion. She works
at thestudio. She

has to belong to a union
[indicating].
Why dont you belongto a union?

They wouldeither
think

You are scrubbing floors.

he wasnuts orthey wouldwalk outand get

BALL

fol¬The
witness, having
been
previously
duly sworn,
testified as
owsz!

talking about
it hadit beeninthe front room.Thehouse
was
small
and it wasnt thatbig that
you

92
l
I

it was alucky

of
the

s 1 e

us to have a ineetiiig there.

1

was home. Ialways knew where he was, so ifhe sat inthe corner
and readthe Daily Worker Iwas happy. At
that time itseemed like

him a

!iert iin

AREA 2577

as Desisaid, manytimes wejust laughed;we thoughtit was ajoke.
Ihave said manytimes, Thankgoodness, heis
interested in the
Daily Workerinsteadof
getting drunk with the menon thecorner or
being
interested
in women,and thingslike that.
I
always knewhe

8lot.

Iamldiartain
inmgy
own mind
that neither
Lucille Ball,
my daughter,

nos ANGELES

Mr. VIIEELER. Ithink that covers everything Iwanted to ask you.
Mrs. BALL. Imean he was such aharmless soulin his way because,

them. In fact,
he was their
father. Theirfather had
passed
on
and

he hid
been
so good t :_E:1¬l192:6
guredpacify
to ifithim
would make

IN rm;

Mr. Wiii:i;i.na. 92Vhere
do
you

please.

presently reside?

Scottsdale, Ariz.

lgilr.
lvlll-1l~!I.Sl~3lt.
And your
occupation?
l.I&#39;.BALL. &#39;alesiiian.
llilr. 92Vilii:;;i.i-zii.
Are you
here under
subpena
or
areyou appearing
vo iiiitari y.
M I.BALL. Iam appeariiig voluntarilyand cooperating
with you.

Ilgr.
}Ylll-IE1;-ill.
§Vhat
your
is relationship
to Lucille
Ball?
r.
ALL. rot
ier.

_ Mr._92Viii:i;i.aa.
Ihave here aphotostatic copy
of
an atlidavitof
registratioii, obtained_
from the registrar of
voters here in Los Angeles,

alndlliiiiirs
it:
;l!l:; SlgIli92tlll0
of
Fred H. Ball
and is
itdatedthe 12th
uiie,
.
!.

tayo

Qn thispet_itioii,_ after
item 9,I_ intend
to ailiateat theensuing

primary electionwi_t.h theloininiiiiist Party, the word .oiiiiiiiiiiist

isioiitotstrucli
oiig
and
this dppiiiiieiit
tgsclosels
you
that
changed
your atliliaiv
emocratic arty
on ovein
er18
1940.

_Iwould
lllE8have
to looklat
y_oii and
thisstate
whether
notor
that

is yoursigna

iire a ipearing on

t ie
ocument.

Mr. BAi.i..
That
is
mysignature.

Pl92ItI.?92&#39;vHEELER.
you ever
beenmember
a Have
of
the Communist
ar y .
Mr. BALL. No, sir.

Q

PL/ltr.?WlIEEI.ER.
Have you
ever been
askedjoin
to the
Communist

2578

COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES IN THE L08 ANGELES AREA

Mr. BALL.No,sir; nottomyknowledge.

COMMUNIST
Ac&#39;rivi&#39;rins
IN THE LOSANGELES
AREA 2579

_

Mr. 92Vi1i:i:i.i~:it.
Ilave
you ever attended any meetings you
later
thought may have been Coininunist Party meetings?

Mr. BALL.Notto
my knowledge.

Mr. lViii;i:i.sit. Do
you

_

knowwhetheror notany meetingswereever

lield in the residenceat 1344 Ogden
Drive?
Mr. BALL. No.

it

childhood.

_

the restof
my

feel that we were with him, we were inclined to
do

it.

He usedto talk to all of usand all of our friendsby the
hour
about
the workinginan,and his I!aily 92Voi-ker.We usedto listen,not becauseof the interestwe had, but, ratlier, because
of the courtesywe
felt we owed
him.

And this is the
direct

result of our att it ude toward

grandpa.

Mr. lViini~;i.isit.
Has this matter beenbroughtto
your

attentionpre-

viously?

Mr. BALL.Oh, very denitely.
Mr. 92Viim;i.i-lit.
In what way?
Mr. I5A1.i..By this matter, you mean this particular document

right here [indicating] ?
Mr. 9292"in~:r:i.i:i:.
Yes, the registration.

H

Mi. I§Ai.|..The rst time this particiilar
thing
wasever broughtto
my mind, after this signing
took
place,waswhen
I
workedfor
what
wasthen Vega .=92irc|&#39;aft.._
I
wasworkingon the
night
shift and I was
removedfrom duty and dischargedfrom the
employ
of Vega.
The next day,
I
think it was,or
very shortlyafter that particular
night,
I
wasaskedwhy
I
wasbeingdiscliarged,and
I
reincinberone
thing that wassaid to me-naturally, I dont know the inans name,

buthewasacross
thedeskin theemployment
ollicethere,andmaking

someremark about.not being a good citizen.

AlsoI reineinherthat therewas,at leastI think that he madesome
referenceto how did I vote or how did I register. Beyondthat I
dont-no onehas
ever
madeany referenceto me in respectto this.
But I deducted from that situation
that

this re Yistratioii was the

cause
ofmydismissal,
butyetnobody
ever told
metihat.

At thattimeI attempted
to get--I didgetdocuments,
shallwesay,
or allidavits
or lettersof character
from
people
that I knew,attempt-

ingtogetthatjobback.I wasparticularly
upset
because,
nothaving

doneanythingwrong,I wasdeprivedof makingaliving,

9.
,t

interimI decided
to goto workat Beechcraft,.the
reasonbeinYthat

production
I could
gotoworkatBeech
andlearn
theparticular
prod-

make
him

&#39;2
_.&#39;

."

Therewasto bea fewmonthswaitbeforethatjobmaterialized.
_I>I0wever,
I wentto 92Vichita
a couple
of months
before,
andin the

Mr.
BALL.
My grandfatherwasactuallythoughtof, so far as
I am
concerned,as my father, inasmuchas my father died before
I
was
born, and it was grandpa that was my father all
the
yearsof my

family, that grandpadidnt have too ni:iiiyyearsto go, and what he
wantedus t.odo, as longas
it wasmoreor lesssomethingthat
would

fil

through
a friendof minein Wichitatogotoworkat a particular
tool

shop.

thetool
shop
I was-to
g0towork
forwas
siibcontractiiig
from
lieech,

t.liiiigcameaboutwasthat I realized,along
with

,_.
at
if

of

lllzr.
92Viii;i;i.uit.
92Vould
you state
how
orwhy
you registered
asyou
did
For all of the years,I guess,
up
to the
time
that I passedthe teens,
whatevergrandpasaidwasgood
enough
for Il18._
The
reasonthat this

ll:

SoI wentfromIiosAngeles
to 92Vichita,
Kaiis. It wasthe
result

having
been
_dis|nissed
at>Vega.
-However,
I hadmade
aliailgement,$

and then I

was,youmightsay,directlyaccused
of notbeinga goodAmerican.
I waspai&#39;ticulai&#39;ly
det_.ei&#39;iiiiiied
at the timeI wasgoingto getmy
job back. In spiteof anythingI couldpresent,
nobodywouldlisten

at Vega.
92

andI thought
llltlSlIlll92&#39;ll
asI was
going

to betheirsuperintendent
of

uct we were going to produce; which I did.

&#39;

I wentto workat Beech
andI worked
there,it seems
likeit was
2or 3 months,
and
I
worked
on theaircraftassemblies
that this
G. &H.
Tool Co.wasgoingtoproduce.

Atthat_
time
I left
Beech
voluntarilg
and
went
intoG.&H.and

I worked
in92Vi_chita
forG.&H. Tool 0.andalso
Swallow
Airplane

I voluntarily
leftG.&.H. andwenttoSwallow.
Ilie totalof the2 places
probably
was31/2years-_somewhere
in

that neighborhood.

_ 92Vhen
I
wasworking
atSwallows,
theywere
tryingtoinduct
me
in theArmyinCalifornia.
At onetimewetriedtogeta deferment

for meat Swallows-Swallow
AircraftC0. Swallow
Aircraftwent
totheStatedirector
of Selective
Service
in Kansas,
whowentto the
CaliforniaStateSelective
Service,
andcamebacka refusal&#39;
no

deferment.

So said,
I amnotgoing
tobeinducted
inKansas.
_IfI amgoing

toheinducted,
I amgoing
tobeinducted
inCalifornia;
that
ismy

homeState.

_ I quitmy]obandcame
back
heretoCalifornia,
andtheytook
me
in thethingdownhere,downtown,
theinduction
station.
I
was

practically
iiiducted,
ready
tobe
sworn
in,and
they;got
meadefer-

mentfrom92V1chita.
SoI packed
up
andwentbac to92Vichita
and

back to Swallow to work.

Thesame
thing

came
upagainthat
6
months
dealtheywent

through.
Rather
than
have thathappen
again,
I said,
I amgoing
togothistimeandgoin theArmy,regardless.
I quitmy]obandcame
ba.ck_
hereandwentdown
tothedraft
board,
andthey
said,Youarecritically
needed
inaircraft,
ourpar-

ticular
occupation.
Wewould
rather
you
would
not
gointlieArmy.

Yougoseeif youcangetyourself
a
job.

Inasmuch
asI was
settogointhistime,
rather
thanriding
that

fence
of 6 moiith_s,
andnotknowing
whereouare,I didiitlook

very
hard
fora]oband
went
back
and
said:
I amready.
Lets

go 7!

aat},they
said,
Wewill
give
you
anextension.
Go
ndyourself
Sothen
I gured
if they
wanted
meto_work
that
bad,
rather
than
gointheArmy
I at
leastwould
nd
a ]ob
that would
pay
me the

est._Inlooking
around
andapplying
at
all theplants,
I nally
.
Theyhiredme_
and
put methrough
thephysical,
andhalfway
through
thephysical
theycame
outandtold
me togetdressed
and
told
me togohome.
I dontknow
whytheytoldmetogohome,
but
thatistheonly
reason
I can
deductwas
thisthing.
wentin to Vultee.

2580

COMIVIUNIST ACTIVITIES IN THE} nos ANGELES AREA

COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES
IN

Tliose
alr; etth
orgy
twp
times
Ilhave
ever
had
any
occasion
tohave
is
rou itu
intiismanner.
I wen?
ri htout
tolgacig
Airmotive
and
went
towork
on
a Navy
contract.
Dleft
Pacic
Airmotive
and
went
inthe
Army, because
they
cancelisd
the
cri1ticaldNavy
contract
they
were
working
on,
and
the imme iate
in ucte me.

an tiin
i

Niir.
Wumcu-:n.yHow
long
were
you inthe
Army?

Mr.

l§Au.. Fifteen

Mr.;¥liEl-lid-Ill.
Are
you acquainted
with
Emil
Freed?
Mr.
ALL. No, sir.
docu-

ment and read the top part of it. Read it into the record.

Elile

election
tobeheld
onthe25th
dayot

Myknowledge
ofthesalilEmilFreedissuiclent
towarrant
myurging
his

election to the otilceof memberof the assembly,57th district, and inmy opinion
he is fully qualied, mentally, morally, and physically tor the said olce and
should he -levtt-tito till it. l am a qualied elector
of
Los AngelesCounty and I
am registeredas il|lilli1ll&#39;tI
with the CommunistParty &#39;
° &#39;.

Mr. Wlrm-:1.nn.
Nowturn overon thesecond
pageandseeif your
signature appears.

Mr. 92Vin-:Ei.|-in.
Is that your signature? Wlizit numberis it?
Mr. BALL.Twenty-two.

Mr. 92Vi|r:|-:1.n|i.
YousaidyoudontknowEmil Freed. Doyourecall

,.
:
,l
.

This strikessomething,and I cant tell you what. The

onlythingI rt-callhere.is theseparticularlilies
on
thesesheets,
and
soforth
here;
that strikessomething.I cant remember
signingit.

%can
don,t
know
who
thilsguy
Fiieed
is.I cant
remember
signing
itand
t
associateanyt ung 92vit1 it.
gr.
92]YIIEEI.£TR.
I!oyou
know
Jack
Breger
orJacob
Breger?
r.
ALL. o.
Mr. 92Viii~:ni.i:n.
Accordingto the document,he is the individual

whocirculated
thepetil.ion. Doyourecallwhether
ornotthepetition
wasbroughtto youto signby your grandfather
or
anotherindividual?

Mr. B.u.1..I woul<lnthaveany
idea.
I dont think I haveever
hadanycontactwithanyonethat I everbelieved,
ever
thoughtof as

ii
ll

_being
a Communist.
I can
never

recallanysuch,
anyconversation

or any picturein my mind of any particular
man.

.

_I do,however,
recallthisnotcompletelyand
I canonlysayI

sigpled
tlhis
because
that
ismysignature.
I can&#39;t
remember
the
time
or
e p ace.
Mr. lVm:i-:i.nR.
Youarefamiliarwiththecriminalsyndicalism
law

previouslyon the statutesof the Stateof California?

That is why we went along with
him.
There wasnt anytlung
vicious about anything that man ever did in that respect. He was
a

workiugman
all hislife andheonlydiedbecause
he
stopped working.
Mr. &#39;92Vin:i;i.an.
Going back to the year
1936,

anythoughts
thatperhaps
any
member

did you ever entertain

of yourfamilywasa member

of the Communist Party?
Mr. B.-92l.|..No.

Mr. 92&#39;Vum:|.i;n.
92Vhatwas the general attitude of the members of

the family regardingcommunism,
other than your grandfather?
1 speakfor all of usso far as
we wereconcerned. Lucille was
busy
making a living and I was doing the samething. That is all we
were concerned about.

She had a career andwe

were concerned

about getting grandpa and mother from New York to California

Mr. B.92|.l.. Yes: I do.
Mr. 92Viim-:|.r:n.You do?

Mr.
BALL.

he cared about was the poor guy next door that

Mr. B/92|.|..
92Vell,
we never had any thoughts or any conversations
with respect to communism, so far as we were concerncdI am sure

ll.-92u.. Yes.

reading the prefaceto that when you signedthe document?

2.
1
1,
-

man,
and
that
isail. That
isallthere
was
ever toit,Illany
sense

wasntmakingenough
to liveon.
_

Sponsor&#39;s
certiticate: I, the undersigned sponsor for Emil Freed for the
Communist Party nomination to the oice of
member
of the Assembly 57th

Mr.

unable to locate.

However,
hereisa sample
thatmayin somewayrefreshyourmemory.
Mr. BALL.Grand!a diedwith the phraseon his lips,92Vorkmgof the word.
All

Mr. llau. reading!:

I

tionssigned
by
eachvoteror signe
by
you asa voter.
_
_
You will notethe secondpetition there is 164-F. That indicates
that you signeda petitionto removecriminalsyndicalismlawsoff the
Mr. B.92t.|.. No.
Mr. Wm-:n|.1»;u.The document itself I have
been

Mr. BALL.Honorablydischarged.

I

you
previously
identied
assignimg,
onthe
backofitisalist
ofpetiCan you recallsigningsucha document?

Mr. Wmziau-xn.Honorably discharged?

would pick up that
second

Mr. BALL. No.

,Mr. Wm-n-:1.isn.
Accordingto the aidavit of registration,
which

statutes of the State of California.

months.

Mr. Wiineuzn. I wonderifyou

THE LOS .u~1o1~:1.1~:s
AREA
2581

and getting back together and having our home together. 92Ve
we:-ent,concernedwith communismor Democratsor anything like
that, so far as that goes.

Mr. 92Vur:1-:i.r:n.
llow wereyou employedin 1936?
Mr. B.92|.|..
I wasemployedby the Trocaderoor the CocoClub. I
would haveto do somecheckingto find out just exactlywhichjob I
was on.

I wasworkingat the Trocaderoasa pageboy.
Mr. 92V|u-;i:|.1:n.
I have no further questions,Mr.
Ball.
However,
I wouldlike for -youto add whateveryou desireto the record.
Mr. B.-92|.|..
I cant add anything to anything I have already said.
It is merely a matter of our living grandpa,and anything we could
havedoneto
help him bide his timethat wasall he was doing,was
billing his timeand
workingman.

he had no interest in life other than the
.

Ile sat aroundand readthe Daily Workerday in and day out,

and chewedaboutit to everybodythat camein.

It wasa little embarrassing
at times,but therewasnothingwe

coulddo aboutit, and the easiestthing to do and the thing that made

himthehappiest
wasto listen,whichwe
all

did. Anybodythat
ever

Mr. B,u.|.. No.

came
toourhouse
listened
tohim,andI willtellforsure
theydidnt

Mr. 92V1iI-:1-:1.en.
Do
you knowwhatcriminalsyndicalism
is?

door, that was so much the better.

get out the doorwithout listening. If we couldget them in the back

2582 coanuuuisr

ACT1VHHES IN

I know for sure, and Ialso

rue LOS

auoetss AREA

know the reason grandpa never asked

us to participate direct.ly in anything was because
he knewbet.ter than
to ask us. We

would listen to him, and it is evident; we
signed

some

documents because
he askedus to sign them. That is the truth. Are
you interestedin when l went in
Phoenix to the FBI? i

1

Mr. Wm:i;i.i:u. Il:-ve you reported this matter that we have been
discussing to any other Federal agency?
Mr. ]5A|.|.. Yes. I92vent into the FBI in Phoenix, Ariz., about 2
years ago.

Mr. 92V1u:1-:l.na.
About 2 years ago?

INDEX

Mr. B.92|.|.. Yes. .

Mr. 92Viuil~:|.r.n.And you gave them practically the
have given me today; is that correct?
Mr. ll.u,|..

That. is

same outline you
_
INl!lVIlJUAI.B

correct.

Mr. 9292|n-:i:i.i:u.Imean there is no additional
add re"a1ding it?

information you

can

Mr. Il,92|.|..
No. If it wouldbe ofany interest,
Ican tell youwhy

I

Iwent
in.
Mr. IV1|i-;i:u~:n.

Yes.

-

Mr. BALL. Iwent. to Phoenix without any prior
arrangement
for
employnient, and there was a place called Motorola. that Iheard
about and decided it might be aplace to
apply.
However, in association with some of the people
in
the trailer court

where Ilived, Iunderstood that there was quite an extensivesecurity
check. It

was one of those secret projectsworking

on some sort of

secret st.utl&#39;.
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Itenieinhering my experience in California, and

in decidin

Iwanted

togoto
Motorola,
Idecided
the best
thing
to do, instead
ogworrying

about this thing the rest of my life, was to go down to the FBI and
find out if there was anything to prohibit me from going
to
work;
check melirst and then go
out, and Iknew if they wanted to hire me,
4

I would have a job and not have arecurrence

1

that got hack to that local FBI ollice in Phoenix.
The rest of them
had their own security checks and the FBI wasnt involved. In other

..,
1&#39;.trll;i1 -

like at Vnltee.

Itold them exactly what Iwanted t.o know and why Iwanted to
know it. The answer was that Motorola did have asecurity check
words, Icould go to any other plant or any plant I wanted, except
Motorola, and he pretty sure of employment.
If they wanted to hire me, if there was anything in the record that
would stop
me

from working,

went to
Motorola.

the chances are it would come out if I

Therefore Ididnt

go
to

Motorola.

Mr. I/Vu1~:1~:|.i:a.
Ihave nothing further.

92Vhereupon, at
4p. m., Friday, September 4,1953, thestatements
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MILTONARUDIN
EDWIN PERI-STEIN
VINCENT H CHIEFFO
ROBERTAFINKELSTEIN
GREGORY MOISEEFF
JUDITH E FRIESS

BEVERLY HILLS.
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ADDRESS
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August 17,

1977

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Lucille Ball
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me Mr.

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Son of

We have

envelopes which
preserve any

conversation, I

letter dated
client, Lucille

encased the

am enclosing

August 5 , 1977, received
Ball, from
"Just call

letter in

one of

you had previously provided

fingerprints which

may have

the clear

us
with,

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plastic

so as to

been left

on the

letter.

Your attention

to this
Very truly
RUDIN &

matter

is
greatly

appreciated.

yours,
PERLSTEIN

&#39;2/Am ;4.//J74By ROBERT A. FINKELSTEIN
RAF:Sb
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All you drought stricken
WhenWorld
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snakes listenl

III comes there ain&#39;t
gonna be any more poor American guys

dying for you rich bitches. It
God sends devastation to

will be everyone for themselves, andthe sooner

earth, the

better!

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country,
next time there
ain&#39;t
rich. God will wreak

but come

gonna be anybody to fight and die for the fatcats and the
widespread devastation, and no area on
earth
will be exempt

from the
fiery
burning of God&#39;s wrath.
Then all you rich snakeswill
fight
die for yourselves-no innocent, stupid serving youth will die for you.

Hay thedrought continueuntil
all
and your rich homes, until
you
I know that
the

and

you snakesare forced out of the west

lose millions.

rich don&#39;t
care for

the poor because I have written

several rich snakes, andthey didn&#39;t
even
answer. Well, your daywill
come!
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the

Beverly Hills
supper

.5outhgate, Kentucky, and whenthe earthquake hits L.A.,
obituaries, expectantly

to see your
name

I will
be

to

Club,

scouring the

on
it.

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spit or piss on you to quench
the flames.

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Very truly
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yours,
PERLSTEIN

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ZETQTTED STATES

GOVERNMENT

Me21201"a ndum
SAC, L05 ANGELES 9-3461-362! ! DATEI

10/31/78

SA;
UNSUB, aka

Troy;
LUCILLE BALL

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VICTIM,
EXTORTION C!
00: Los
Angeles

On
10/25/78
the handprin
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advised that

10/24/78 by

Attorneys RUDIN

sent through

the United

ad

LUCILLE
BALL&#39;sF
the on

furnished to

PERLSTEIN were in actuality

States mail.

He stated

not

that the

first note
beginning "By
the wall"!
was left
in the
mailbox
at LUCILLE BALL&#39;s residence, l00ONorth Roxbury
Drive, Beverly
Hills, California,
telephone 274-4002,
on Monday 10/23/78.
The second note, also
left in
the mailbox,
was found on
Tuesday l0/24/78.
dditionally advised
tha the
employed by
LUCILLE BALL,
ma seen

left
the
note on
good description.

furnish a

It was

explained to

federal violation
the United

Monday and

that there

inasmuch as
were

States mail.

be imediately

He was

turned over

the

could possibly

to the

advised that

is no

not sent

through

the notes

would

Beverly Hills
Police

Depart-

ment, at
which
time he suggested tha
contact him
through telephone
numbe
"

~On

10/25/78, Attorney

Wilshire Boulevard,

that the

department

ROBERT A.
FINKELSTEIN,

Beverly Hills,

FBI had no jurisdiction

California, was

in captioned

the notes
would be turned over
to the
Department on
10/25/78. FINKELSTEIN
ciated the

FBI&#39;s interest

he had no objections
Beverly Hills

in this

to the

Police Department

9601

advised

matter and

that

Beverly Hills
Police stated
that
he appre-

matter and

notes being

indicated

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for appropriate

that

the

action.
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on thefilm industrynot toemploy individuals
who had
been
identified or
were suspected
of having
been affiliated
with
the CP
and/or itsvarious front
groups and
who refused
to
takeaforthright stand before
the HCUA.
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major
film producers
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letters tosuch
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CP members".

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stay
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mshe
1
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any
kind
being
a he
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many
phone
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some
late at
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Secretary
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say
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time
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of
government".
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divorce last May from Arnaz.
her co-star
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Times

some 1,500 fans milled

out- tions. in which the redhead-i
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of

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the stock.
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Miss

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was availfuture plans,
able for comment on the split yes-_
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terday, Arnaz
his Indian

incommunicado at

Wells Country

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Palm Springs where hotel sources
said he
was out,
Miss Ball
at
the studio declining to
talk
about
the split.

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indicated the break-up was
due to
a number
of factors.
Arnaz was
restless under
the
burden of
administrative work,
particularly
since
he
is interested
in other ac-

tivities, such
breeding and

as thoroughbred
his Palm
Springs

hotel.

In asense, the separation began
two years ago when the pair were
divorced. Miss
Ball since has married comedian
Gary
Morton.
Associates said Arnaz wanted
out for

last season
when studio
fortun s
were at
alow
ebb. Desilu
h s
wit

o up
impetus
three
series

clu ng

t-

this semest

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remain in
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areturn

his status of a dozen years
ago

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to

when he and Miss Ball formed
D6§1l921, to
produce I Love Lucy,
which
became
one_of tvs all-time

hits. From this series, the fortunes
of Lucy
and Desi soared, and as

a result
they bought
Desilu
Cahuenga Studios, and later acquired from RKQ its Gower Street
a"d_ C921l92&#39;81&#39;
City studios,
now
Desilu Gower
City.

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and Desilu

Culver

programming veepee, rgyle Nelson, production and studio
operations veepee. Actually, only
change in the_top echelon is Miss
Balls succeeding

Arnaz as

prexy,

since_the other officers have been
functioning in
their
respective
capacities for some time.
Miss Ball is_buying the 300,350
shares of

Desilu stock

Arnaz at

a price

owned by

way over
the

current market
price %%%-2-,=7vl&#39;hich
ups her total holdings
to 600,650
shares. or 52% of
the total
outstanding stock of Desilu.

a°°921P18_
of years ago

was_ interested

in
selling

the

D9511" emplfey
_8nd thereactually

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negotiations with

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at one time was definitely inter-

some time, but didn&#39;t
care to ex_it
pic

but may
as an
indie

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Desilu and
its
Desilu Staffers

Stay

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wl
be run by Miss Ball as pxy;

Edwin
E.

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