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AUDIO INTERVIEWS AUDIO INTERVIEWS The Barcelona Conference The Barcelona Conference The Brussels Conference The Brussels Conference The Los Angeles Conference The Los Angeles Conference The Zurich Conference The Zurich Conference Camelot Live at Vilcabamba Camelot Live at Vilcabamba Aaron McCollum Aaron McCollum NEW : THE ANGLO-SAXON MISSION NEW : THE ANGLO-SAXON MISSION Benjamin Fulford Benjamin Fulford Dr Bill Deagle Dr Bill Deagle Bill Hamilton Bill Hamilton Bill Holden Bill Holden Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy Bob Dean Bob Dean Boriska Boriska Dr Brian O'Leary Dr Brian O'Leary Sgt. Clifford Stone Sgt. Clifford Stone Dan Burisch Dan Burisch Dan Sherman Dan Sherman Dane Tops Dane Tops David Corso David Corso David Icke David Icke David Wilcock David Wilcock Duncan O'Finioan Duncan O'Finioan Elizabeth Nelson Elizabeth Nelson Erich von Dniken Erich von Dniken Gary McKinnon Gary McKinnon George Green George Green Gordon Novel Gordon Novel 'Henry Deacon' 'Henry Deacon' Jane Brgermeister Jane Brgermeister James from Wingmakers James from Wingmakers Jim Humble Jim Humble Jim Marrs Jim Marrs Jim Sparks Jim Sparks John Lear John Lear John Robie John Robie Joseph Farrell Joseph Farrell Klaus Dona Klaus Dona Leo Zagami Leo Zagami Dr Len Horowitz Dr Len Horowitz Luca Scantamburlo Luca Scantamburlo Marcia Schafer Marcia Schafer Miriam Delicado Miriam Delicado 'Mr. X', the UFO archivist 'Mr. X', the UFO archivist Patrick Geryl Patrick Geryl Peter Levenda Peter Levenda Dr Pete Peterson Dr Pete Peterson Dr Paul LaViolette Dr Paul LaViolette Ralph Ring Ralph Ring Ricardo Silva Ricardo Silva Richard Hoagland Richard Hoagland Dr Steven Greer Dr Steven Greer The Crystal Skull The Crystal Skull Tony Dodd Tony Dodd Wade Frazier Wade Frazier Bill Deagle: Interview transcript - Part 3

_____________________________ Dr Bill Deagle - Prognosis for Planet Earth - Part 3 Vista, California, September 2008 (continued from Part 1 and Part 2)

Start of interview Bill Deagle (BD): The key idea is this: You need to have a doing in the spirit before you have a knowing. In other words, you need to contact the Higher Self to say why... Im a human-being not a human-doing. In other words, you need to be where youre supposed to be. You need to be in the position where youre supposed to be, and then the things just unfold. Bill Ryan (BR): Yes. BD: And this is why all these things have happened to me. And people say its impossible that all these things could happen to one person. I say: Well, it happens because I hear and do. Literally. As you know, the sister of Moses went before the council of the people

back in the ancient times and said, you know: Are we an ear, and not only prophets? And the voice of god spoke through the pillar of fire and said: There is not a man on Earth, hand to hand, eye to eye, mouth to mouth, who does not speak as another man speaks to his brother. Thats the kind of relationship I have with God. I literally can talk and hear him instantly, [snaps fingers] like that. Kerry Cassidy (KC): Mm hm. BD: But people need to know Im not any better than anyone else, but I am... If you knew my whole history, youd say: Why is this man called to do this? Im called to do this because Ive seen the face of evil. Ive seen it not only in myself, Ive seen it in others. I have chosen light, not to be a follower of darkness. Ive had numerous opportunities. Ive had an opportunity to become a Breve Brother, a Knight of Malta, as early as this year, earlier this year. Ive had all kinds of threats. Ive had the Pindar come directly to me to say, you know, to be his replacement as the CEO of Earth, Inc. and the Druidic Council. And theres a lot of high-level Masons say: Well, I havent even heard of that. Because they think theyre the ascended ones. They have no idea what theyre serving. BR: Hm. BD: They have no idea. They need to repent right now. And, as I say, if we can pray -- and this is something we have to do. And the most powerful thing we have is, I call it fore-give. The word foregive means to create. To foregive means we need to pray for George Soros, who is behind the Blackstone Group and 9/11, and the current derivatives crises thats bringing the world down to a world and regional banks, and trade zones that are going to cause the death of millions and set the groundwork afoot for a pandemic. Because when starvation occurs, the population gets weakened, and its the perfect groundwork, or cover, for a pandemic which theyve already weaponized. BR: Has that already been released? Or not released? BD: There are several avenues by which it can happen. Back in... How long ago is it now? Gee... back in about 1995 I was praying and I was told by the angel that I was supposed to go to Europe. And I said: Well, where? And the Lord said: Youre going to go to Zurich. And I said: Well, I dont know anybody in Zurich. So I had some friends that were Canadians, that actually were in Halifax, Nova Scotia, at the time and they had gone back to Austria, to Lake Constance. And I said: Well, Ill contact them... the Santoses. I said, you know: You guys know Zurich? [They said]: Oh, yeah. We lived there are awhile and we love it. So I started going through and googling, you know, checking out things, trying to find out which organization. The Lord said: Youre supposed to contact these people here at Human Life International. So I speak to God, literally, and he tells me. So I contact them. I call this guy and he calls me back from Zurich. And in a very German accent he says: Wonderful! Wed love to have you come over and speak to our board. So we arranged tickets. We go and visit our friends in Austria, and we go over to Zurich. And I told them what I was told, you know -literally told -- to tell them about was the cybernetic super-soldier

program, human genetic engineering, and the chimeric monstrosities theyre making in underground facilities. And to speak against abortion and euthanasia, and selective abortions which are... 93% of the abortions on Earth are female. BR: Hm. BD: OK? And so, after two and a half hours of me speaking to a board of scientists -- giant boardroom, you know, 24 doctors and scientists, whatever, the down, doctor. And they went of documents. And they gave International Board of HLI -- they said: Now you sit We give you things. into another room and brought this stack, about a foot I said: Well, what is this? They said: You stay here. me some more water and whatever, and they lectured to me

for two hours. And they had documents there of the weaponization of the avian flu, smuggled out of the World Health Organization in Basel. Actual documents. OK? That they had got gene bioengines, and they had actually resurrected the corpses of people that died of the H1N1 back in 1918, that they were paid for by the Rothschilds... All this stuff! Im totally in shock! I mean, these guys are telling me this stuff. Im thinking: Why am I in Zurich? And after they finished that, which was about 6 inches, then they gave me documents, that they had these plasmid vaccines that were injected every month. And they were drawing blood from women in sub-Saharan Africa, testing to see if they create antibodies against human chorionic gonadotropin to sterilize them. And I had another 4 inches of documents that showed that AIDS was completely weaponized by cross-genetically engineering the Visna virus with other viruses. They gave me the actual documents! So Im sitting there kind of freaked out, you know, wondering... And of course we went to dinner afterward with these doctors. And they said: Now you bring all this I brought it all back with me, of course -- to North America. But the thing is, back in... You see how God puts me in all these positions. Back in 1974 I had finished a year of medical school and someone tried to recruit me from a U.S. government agency to take a year off medical school and go to Uganda for a special virus project. Because I had worked... Before I went into medicine, I was working on my honors degree and I finished my Ph.D. research project in 5 months, although I didnt write the thesis, for Dr. Robert Brown, who was one of the doctors working on the T-virus project in Bethesda. So I was already a bio-weaponeer. OK? KC: Mm hm. BR: And you turned that down? BD: I turned it down. I told them there was no way I was going to do it. But I had recalled this from 74 to 1997 when they gave me all those documents, and here it was... I was also the whistle-blower that blew the whistle that the Factor-8 that was used for hemophiliacs... I was the main whistle-blower for the Canadian government and those lawsuits that got all those doctors, that they were getting it and combining all these Factor-8s... Because I had a pile of hemophiliacs when I was practicing in Calgary that were dying of AIDS, specifically because they gave them

purposely-contaminated Factor-8. BR: Yes. BD: OK? And all these things, all my experiences from my laid out so that I would be what I am now, a beaten piece like a Samurai sword... KC: Hm. BD: ...hardened enough for the truth and willing to tell the truth, to tell people that you need to make the right You cannot believe your pastor, your rabbi, your Buddhist

life, were of steel the people decisions. master, your

ascended masters, your ET contactees. You need to contact your Self, the spirit of the Most High God. You need to analyze whats going on in foreign policy and money. For example, money, as Socrates says, only means exchange. Why are we willing to do spending cuts that will starve people? Why are we going to bail out 700 billion dollars to banksters that are gambling on the future, thatre going to guarantee that were going to have a crash and the death of civilization? BR: Hm. BD: Why? And they know that starvation leads to war, pestilence, and the crash of civilization. And its very fragile. And theyre purposely bringing this about. This is the start... This phase right now, with the collapse of the banks, this is the start toward world government, world bank, regional currencies, chipping the population. And theyre ready, probably by next year. Ive already calculated, and have been told by my sources, both natural and classified, as well as supernatural, theres about a 30% chance of an avian pandemic this year, and a 70% chance next year, and 100% chance the year after. BR: When you say this year, you mean in the next 12 months? BD: No, between now and the end of December [2008]. BR: Really? OK. BD: Thats very disturbing. OK? But were talking about going up to 70%, which means next year we have a very grave possibility of a thermonuclear attack at least on the Bashear reactor and 450 targets. And a counter-response which is going to release a radiation cloud and cut off the world to the Strait of Hormuz. And I was taken in 1988 -- one of my very first visions -- I was taken up high above Saudi Arabia, in the spirit, and I actually looked down. And I looked and I could see the carrier groups all assembling. And this was 1988, twenty years ago. And I looked down, and the angel told me, he says: Watch this place. Because this is where it will all start -- the Strait of Hormuz. BR: And how close are we to that now? BD: We are so close we can feel the breath of the dragon. People need to pull back... And none of these people that call themselves candidates for president that are in the two leading parties are safe. Neither one. Obama is backed by Zbigniew Brzezinski, that wrote The Grand Chessboard, that was the head of the Security Council, that was one of the CFR members in Georgetown University. He is personally determined

to directly confront, with thermonuclear and other weapons, Russia. OK? BR: Yes. Yep. BD: We have Joe Biden, who released this information just in the last two weeks. This guy is very clever but very evil. And hes directly involved with the cover-up of the Israeli Purdue OxyContin scam, where theres a Purdue Pharma plant in Israel distributing billions of dollars of illegal OxyContin in America. And we have the proof of it. OK? This is not conjecture. BR: Yep. BD: Then weve got McCain, who spent five and a half years under the control of a Russian mind-control scientist, the top Russian mind-control scientist. And I heard him on the debate. And actually I think he won the debate against Obama, because Obama, if hes not reading a teleprompter, is not that smart. McCain was sharper and he showed more presidential... But McCain is determined that hes going to invade -- as well as Obama -- hes going to invade Pakistan and get to the Waziristani nukes. Hes going to expand NATO directly on the back doorstep of the Russians. Its going to piss off the Russians. And the Russians have got some very, very nasty weapons. BR: Yes, and theyre pissed off already. BD: Theyre very pissed off, and they personally dont want to do this. Theyd much rather negotiate and get richer. Right? BR: Sure. BD: The Russians are not interested in this. But the people behind the American government, the Satanic Luciferian Reptilians, theyre absolutely determined to bring this agenda toward a final culmination, a thermonuclear war. OK? Theyre determined to do it. KC: Thats with Russia. BD: And theyre pulling Russia... As it says in Ezekiel 38 and 39: I shall pull you with hooks in your jaw. Oh Rosh, chief prince Gog of Meshech, Tubal and Rosh. And you know what that is? Gog is the name of a Hebrew man. Rosh: Russia. Meshech: Moscow. Tubal: Tublosk. This is Russia. Theyve armed to the teeth all these nations. Theyve got the S-300 anti-aircraft system; theyve got the Yakontz hypersonic cruise missile; theyve got EMP weapons; and theyve armed to the teeth Syria and Iran; and they are building the largest outside-of-Russia naval base right now in Syria. BR: Yes. And theyre poking the Bear with a sharp stick. BD: Theyre poking the Bear with a sharp stick. So, what weve got to do is, people need to get in a panic here. Its not a matter of voting for Palin and McCain, or voting for Obama. Either alternative guarantees a thermonuclear war. BR: Yeah. Is this election going to happen to schedule, or could something happen to it? BD: It really doesnt matter. It doesnt matter. Even if its delayed 6 months, you know, it doesnt matter if McCain gets in there and Palin. The thing that Im particularly concerned about is... Someone like McCain, if he lives long enough, which Im very concerned about, because hes had a third recurrence of a melanoma. Hes had a lymphatic spread. And I know a lot of... I do consulting, helping people integrate with treatments for cancer all around the world. Unless hes getting some of the new classified anti-cancer therapies with some of the people that I know in Europe or elsewhere -- like Dr.

Tulio Simoncini and Dr. Munoz in Tijuana, and other places, where you get IPT and so on -- hes a dead man. This cancer or another cancer is going to come back and kill him, and hell probably die in his term. And were not talking about a 30% chance. Were probably talking 80% chance in the first two years of his term, if he does become president, that President Palin will take over. BR: With what consequences? BD: Well, President Palin doesnt, I dont think, have the... To me shes pro-life which is positive for a lot of Christian rights. [Ed. Note: the political right] Shes going to drag a lot of votes that way. But in terms of her ability to have a rational judgment, with the extreme religious background that she has, is going to be very disturbing. Now, Im for the pro-life issue and Im for the fact shes got spirituality. But when you have religion and its clouded that Israel can do no wrong? Thats frickin dangerous. BR: Yes. She says that Iraq is Gods war. BD: Right. And thats really dangerous. And you cant say Israel can do no wrong when the whole nation of Israel is Sabbatian Luciferian Satanist Jews. OK? Who do not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and have nothing to do with she thinks... And they laugh at her and think that this Christian fool is going to back us no matter what, and allow us to attack Iran. BR: Yeah. And shes playing straight into their hands. BD: Right. Shes playing right into their hands. And, of course, theyre using her as a card to manipulate. And on the other hand, weve got Obama and theres a trail of strange things going on behind him. KC: And you know this because... BD: Ive got so many contacts you would not believe it. I cant... Ive spent a lot of time on the... Obama is a, if you want to call it, messianic figure. KC: Mm hm. BD: This is a very dangerous man. In fact, of all of the options we have, Obama is the most dangerous of all of them. BR: OK. So thats the most-worst version. BD: Hes the most-worst version. Even Biden would be better. Biden might actually have a clue, even though hes a bit of a criminal. BR: Yeah. KC: But our understanding is that Biden probably wont make it to the... BR: Is it possible that Hillary could be back on the ticket? BD: Its possible. Its possible. BR: Have you heard that? BD: The thing is that Hillary, other than Obama, is the most scary individual Ive ever met. She is very brilliant, incredibly evil, and her family, the Rodhams, have been Luciferian Satanists for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. She has a lot of stuff attached to her. BR: So whats the way out of all that crap? BD: The way out of it is to just get the population woke up, to pray for the leaders, to get the people woke up. If we just get a tiny minority of the body of mankind to wake up to the truth of this... Whether they think theyre atheists or agnostics or Jews or Christians, theyve got to stop being Armageddonites. Theyve got to stop being Sabbatian Jews. Theyve got to stop being religious, thinking: Oh well, its just karma being worked out, in their Buddhism. Right?

Theyve got to stop all that foolishness and pick up their septre and say: We craft the future. Were going to determine whether or not mankind is going to survive whats coming. And theyve got to start making decisions. Theyve got to start saying: Hey, were not going to participate with a country thats going to have a thermonuclear war with Iran. Were not going to... You know, as Carlin said: If you vote for one of these blankey-blank guys or this blankey-blank guy, you cant complain when either one of them starts a thermonuclear war. KC: OK. But actually people are left with that choice. BD: They arent. They can actually... The thing is that I think we need to transcend politics. We need to transcend religion. We need to stop thinking that if we make the right decision on the right leader weve solved the problem. The transformation is not at the leadership level of the White House. KC: Absolutely. BD: Its not even at the capitol building of the state. Its not even at the town council. Its in us. We have to decide that were no longer going to participate in these things. Were not going to participate in churches or pastors or politicians doing these things. Were not going to participate in a financial collapse thats going to starve millions, and start a pandemic. Were not going to participate in doing those things that... KC: OK. Well, but nuts and bolts and on a spiritual level, their choice is clear, I would say. BD: Yeah. But they have to make hard decisions. See, those decisions are so hard that most people dont want to swallow that. So they want to either attack me or any other messenger giving this message. KC: Sure. BD: They dont want to make the tough choices to say: Hey, Im not going to participate with what theyre planning on doing. Im going to make certain that Im not going to vote. Ill give you an example. What happens if nobody went out to vote? What if everybody said: Hey, we know both these guys, either party, is going to support the 700-billion dollar bailout. Because, you know, in the next two weeks, long before the election, theyre going to sign this damn thing. And if they sign it, they guarantee the -- you could call it the controlled demolition of the economy of the world, and the de-evolution to the mark of the beast, which is coming. You know? Ive walked personally through the array, and either party is going to guarantee that. Now, whether its Obama and his messianic vision, or its McCain and Sarah Palin with her Armageddonite vision, it doesnt matter. The devil will move forward like a snake pushing itself on its own belly. KC: OK. Weve also gotten information about October [2008]. And Im sure youve heard Half Past Human. BD: Yes, I can tell you what... Yeah. BR: We have thirteen different, actually fourteen now, different data-points, lined up in October... BD: Yeah. Well, youre correct. Somewhere between the 7th and 15th of October. And I get the same feeling. BR: Right. BD: A lot of the time I dont know... Like Ill go to bed at night, wake up in cold sweats, get visions... KC: Yes. BD: ...see, you know, people crying. I see starvation. I see

privation. I see darkness, a lot of very bad visions, very jumbled up, and I cant tell you what it is specifically. But I can tell you what makes sense to me if I just take my intellectual viewpoint. BR: Yes. BD: I think were going to have a financial crash. BR: OK. BD: I think the financial crash is going to be so severe and so painful that the grocery store shelves are going to be completely empty in the very, very near future. I mean, it could only last for maybe a few weeks, but its going to frighten people so badly, that no matter what the government presents to them -- in terms of world government, regional currency, the Amero, whatever -- theyre going to take it. And then, when they can go back to buying their latte, and go to the movie theater, and put gas in their car at a reasonable price, theyre going to say: Thank God weve got this. KC: Right. BD: But I can tell you right now, what I see is empty shelves. BR: And martial law. BD: And martial law. Remember now, martial law will be almost like a theater. Itll be on... They brought back an entire division. I posted up the article on Clay and Iron, and the dates. So if you go to, I posted up that article. They brought an entire division back to America to be permanently stationed for civil defense inside the United States. Thats 650,000 battle-hardened troops, with heavy artillery and weapons, thatll control the civilian population. They dont need to be in their home country. The media thats on that screen there [television], I call Satan-vision. OK? In that box. What they need to do is they need to frighten people into accepting whatever the agenda is. BR: Yep. BD: So they need a thing like the Katrina thing in one or another city or two or three cities. Maybe they need an event like... Theyve been working on this idea of blowing up dirty bombs or nukes in two or three cities. BR: If... BD: Ive got the long and short list. BR: Yeah. BD: On both the long and the short list -- and I happen to be living very near to one of those. The very top of both lists is Los Angeles. KC: Yes. BD: Theyre number one. KC: I think so, too. BD: Chicago, Detroit, all those three cities are on both long and short lists. OK? BR: It feels to us that there is a violent event coming up. BD: Yes, there is a very violent event coming up. And I see a financial collapse, and I see, at the very latest by next year, a thermonuclear explosion in a U.S. city, one or more cities, and civil war in America. OK? And then a period of false peace after that. And a period of, you know, them setting up this temple thing and kind of scaring the crap out of the population of the planet. BR: Yep. BD: And then I see this time period of 1230, literally marked off. Because, remember now, this is a religious ceremony. You see, the

Bible isnt just a thing for the Jews or for the Christians. Its a Luciferic ceremony. BR: Yeah. BD: And theyre marching through this as a clock, as an anti-type to what they see happening. So that the globalists and the Illuminati use this almost as a religious ceremony to kind of snub the face of the Creator of the universe. And say: No, were God. So thats why this timepiece is being marched on in Israel. BR: Hm. BD: OK? And when people grasp that... The reason why Im going calling you up today is because I dont know who hes, but there is another witness. OK? Hes the Witness of Yehudah, the witness of Judah. Hes a Torah Jew who does know this. And the greatest prophecy that was ever given by Yeshua HaMasaich was The Prodigal Son, that the Ephraim, which is the 10 tribes, would be hauled away, scattered over the Earth by the Assyrians, and that they would return, and they would bring on their shoulders, literally the ability to know how to protect the Jews on Earth. Because the holocaust is coming, Jews. Youve got to know that there is a holocaust coming to kill every Jew on Earth, Sabbatian or not. And the reason is they have to expunge the Earth of any knowledge of a Creator God. It doesnt matter if youre a Buddhist, or youre a native Hopi or whatever. Theyve got to get rid of them because theres a portion of truth that was given specifically by the Creator to the Jews that other peoples did not receive in fullness. Just like theres a Bible code in the Bible. Why is that code in the Bible? Why is it not in some Hopi things, or some tablets from some other civilization? It was there because it was set up as an object-lesson to ask of the entirety of mankind: How will you deal with Israel? How do you deal with it? As it says in Jeremiah, you know: There will be a firepot burning all the nations around it. Theyre literally setting a detonator to blow up the Earth. BR: Hm. BD: And they have weapons that can. Theyve got anti-matter weapons that can turn the Earth into shards, like, you know, like one of these planets that died in the ancient conflicts that they talk about, that was destroyed and created the asteroid belt between Mars and Earth. BR: Yes. BD: OK? BR: Oh, yeah. BD: They have those weapons now. They have things that you just cant imagine that can be done that could blow the Earth, literally, into tiny fragments. BR: Mm hm. BD: OK? But whether well survive is not a geopolitical thing of who we vote for or whether or not were going to kind of will our minds. Like, you know, some of the people figure if we just will it, its all going to happen. Its going to require some painful decisions on our part to say: Hey, were going to march in every city capital of every city. Were going to march in every church to throw down their dogma -- which is their am-god. Theyre not God. They have to hear the Voice of the Creator, whatever religion they are, whatever spirituality, whatever agnosticism. If they dont, theyre not going to survive, because this Earth is marked for judgment. Its the end of the road. And if they dont turn back now...

And that means all those ones who are called as prophets, of every race and tongue and people, you need to come out with a grand chorus and sing the song, as it says in the Bible, the Song of Moses. You need to sing the song of humanity that is a spiritual body that knows these things. We intuitively know it. When I talked to John Boncore, whose name is Splitting the Sky, whos a Mohawk prophecy-giver -- and he said this on air just this week. He said there was a prophecy given, you know, untold centuries ago, that a great, a young Mohawk would come and give a prophetic warning to the peoples of Earth. Well, he has, better than any other person, better than Phil Berg, or anyone else that Ive heard, put the financial trail of blood-money behind 9/11 together. People need to grasp this, that if we dont get back in touch with spirit instead of religion, were going to all die, killing each other for religion. KC: Mm hm. BD: And for different financial agendas. Or were going to save the planet because of carbon dioxide, which is a lie. You know, were polluting ourselves to death, so we wont even be able to reproduce two generations from now. And its all by design. Its designed that even if we didnt have a pestilence or nuclear war, or whatever, that life on this planet is soon going to die. We are a dying planet. If youre visiting here as an archeologist from another distant time and another space to visit Earth, youd say: These people are suicidal. They kill their prophets, just like it says in the Bible, you know, between the brazen laborer and the holy of holies. Im called to speak as Moses and as Elijah, to blow the trumpet, which Ive done on my show. And God has given me a voice to speak to them and warn them. We are at the time of The End. And thats why my other websites called clay and iron. They need to know: Come out of Babylon, which means come out of confusion. Come out of religion. Come back in relationship. Stop believing lies. And the first lie is what you are. Youre not a biological machine. Youre not an advanced piece of slime thats evolved. Youre an infinite being that has the right to choose to have life and to live it abundantly for thousands of years, literally, you know, and have contact with advanced civilizations, and to survive, and to thrive. But if you dont choose life today... Just like Moses, when he set the peoples between Mount Ebal and Mount Gerizim, we as a civilization will die. BR: Now, stepping back into the Black-Ops world, you will know that weve been contacted by time-traveling future humans with a message. BD: Right. BR: And itd be interesting to hear your take on this. But our understanding is that there are alternative timelines. Not all of them are catastrophic. BD: Right. BR: We do have choices. BD: Sure we do. BR: Its not a done deal. BD: Oh, absolutely. BR: And what do you know of those contacts, those messages, and what opportunities we have, and how those messages have been acted upon by the people whove received them?

BD: Firstly, the way I would answer that is that the universe is stranger than even they can imagine. In other words, when youre dealing with people... Lets say that we have posited that there are alternative timelines, and these people have traveled back from multiple timelines. If we think of the -- I call it the universe as a One-I-Voice, in other words, there is a unification of All-That-Is because what the universe is, is not energy portrayed through advanced equations in a cybernetic world. It is literally the passage of spirit through a montage of images. And when you start to understand that, there is only one. In other words, there is not... There are maybe multiple possible futures. . . BR: Mm hm. BD: But there is only ONE real future. BR: OK. BD: OK? BR: Right. BD: But we do have a choice because... I say we foregive. We actually are creating whichever timeline we are going get, whichever rail we are going to get on. BR: Yes. BD: Otherwise, it would be purposeless to even have human beings because wed just be automatons because the future is already set in stone and whatever is going to happen will happen. BR: Exactly. Yep. BR: And we arent. We are actually in the image of the Creator. We are actually the, if you want to call it, the incarnation of the I AM that said: Let there be light in the universe, as human beings in this world. And theres other beings of other types that are across the cosmos that are incarnations of the same I AM. And theyve come to the knowledge that they are and have that responsibility to be, in a sense, midwives to Earth in the birthing-room of this civilization. KC: Yes. BD: Were literally in the birthing-room now. BR: Yes. But, what do you know, and what have you heard, of those messages from future humans who presumably are altruistically trying to help in some way? Because theyre looking back through their own history saying, you know: Dont do that stuff because this happened to us. Or some other message. What do you know about this? BD: You have to use a great deal of discernment. Because one of the things about alternative timelines, in terms of an actual being coming back from a timeline, is you have to think: Is this inserted ideas? Because the very nature of the universe is that there is one timeline that you follow. There may be alternatives that you have a choice of. But you have to use discernment. Youve got to remember that, in a sense, we live in a matrix. We live in a cybernetic world that, to a great extent, is the manifestation of a higher dimensional reality of being that transcends our physical body. For example, I try to tell people this repeatedly, is that your mind, i.e., which is equal to your soul, is not physical. It doesnt exist on this plane. So when people talk about psychic phenomena and doppelgangers and other things, what theyre really referring to is something thats just the very nature of what we are. Our physical mind doesnt exist on this level. OK? The physical mind

is just a chemical computer. Its a bunch of neurons connected; that youre connected to nuclei, and our eyes and our physical senses. But our physical brain is not what we are. Its connected through the cord of the living waters to our physical brain. And so, if we dont understand what kind of a being we are, we wont make correct decisions. So part of this idea of timelines, or even incarnation... For example if you talk to people about incarnation, theyll say: Well, 40% of the incarnations are supposedly from the future. BR: Hm... Yes. Yes. BD: Or even non-human beings. OK? BR: Yep. BD: But the way I tell the people is, I say: Maybe youre just kind of picking up, almost like a radio tuned into a certain frequency, certain object-lessons or spiritual things so that you can understand something youre supposed to learn or remember in this lifetime. In other words, youre not becoming... Does that make sense? BR: Mm hm. BD: So thats why I see this as being a misinterpretation of it. OK? So this idea that there is alternative timelines, I think is a deception, a very, very significant deception. Because it says that the world is a mechanistic Cartesian world thats created by energetics and were just kind of like leaves that are pushed along by energy, space, and time, and we really dont have any choices to our future. In fact, we actually ARE the Gods of this world. But Im not talking about replacement of the Creator God. I mean hearing the voice and doing the will. And thats a very different thing. So, in other words, reality is created on this energetic plane by spirit. Its not the other way around. BR: Of course. BD: And thats the problem were in. So, when you hear people saying that theyve had physical contact, the deception is very, very powerful. Were right here now with mankind, as is said in the Eschaton that transcends time and space, to make a decision for life, whether this civilization is going to survive whats coming or its going to be annihilated. And were very close to that, and we can see the object-lesson of Israel as the final crux. Just look at the foreign policy and look at the financial policy. Look at all of these things. The two groups that are running the world right now, that are running -- literally driving it into the ground -- are the Teutonic Knights; the Hansiatic League. Right? That believes that their bloodline is descended from Yeshua HaMasaich. And all the kings and queens of Europe and all the czars of Russia, the Caesars, believe their bloodline is descended from Jesus Christ and King David. Why? Thats bizarre! Why? But its the truth. You can talk to Jordan Maxwell and others and find it out, Michael Tsarion and others. Why? Why? Why would that be? And then the other group are the Sabbatians. Right? The Sabbatians are basically Satanists. These are, you know... Even though, you know, theyll say: Well, were communists -- the Israelis -- because they had the Russians there at the inception of the Israeli state. Theyre not. They believe theyre God. There is no God. Theyre trying to say, just like Bill Maher and his movie Religulous. You know, obviously hes a Kabbalist. He believes in the Kabbalah. And the highest level of the Kabbalah... If you go deep into Masonry, or entirely, you go right back to the Temple of Solomon. Theyre

completely... They all look Jewish, but theyre not. Theyre Satanic. They go right back to Atlantis and before. BR: Hm. BD: These were adopted into it and invaded into it at the time of Solomon. Thats why theyll say theyll elevate Solomon, and that Solomon was a great leader. No. He allowed the body of the truth of ancient Israel to be infected by this monstrosity. BR: Mm hm. Getting back to what you were saying about the reality, or otherwise, of these alternative timelines, what I hear you saying is, its almost like an intellectual trick, because it doesnt really count. BD: Right. BR: Whats in front of us is whats in front of us, and thats our real responsibility. BD: Right. BR: And anything else... Its almost like its not relevant whether its real or not, because it depends on what you mean by real. BD: Right. BR: And the really, real situation is here and now. BD: Exactly. BR: And thats the only thing that matters. BD: Yes, and also it might give you a false decision-tree to base your ideas on and therefore steer you in a direction of wasted intention. BR: I understand. BD: Thats the first thing. Wasting action. And wasted effort. For example, people think theres going to be a difference if we elect McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden. I dont think it makes a difference. It might make a difference if you had somebody like Cynthia McKinney or Chuck Baldwin. But how likely is it theyd be elected president? BR: Yeah. Its not going to happen. BD: Its not going to happen. The problem is, Cynthia McKinney is a black woman. Shes brilliant; shes tough. Shes calling for a 9/11 investigation. This woman would make an absolutely amazing president. OK? But how likely is it for her to get in there? And the problem is they may also come with baggage, what we call environmental baggage, which is, weve got to reduce the worlds oxygen/carbon dioxide. Thats crazy! Its not science. OK? I was an oceanographer. I did work with Greenpeace. Carbon dioxide is what makes the plants, including the phytoplankton in the upper 10 metres of the benthic layer of the oceans produce all the oxygen. And our oxygen level now is down from what it was in ancient Mesozoic era, from 30%, down to what it is now. So you know, I think what it is, we have to stop looking for an external messiah where all these so-called great religions... Like for example, Mr. Ahmadinejad thinks hes going to see the Imam-Mahdi, or the Christians think theyre going to see a messiah... KC: Right. BD: ...come in the clouds, you know whether... Which is ridiculous. BR: And there are a bunch of people who think the ETs will save us. BD: Right. They think the ETs... You see, this ET save us stuff is crazy stuff, too. BR: Right. BD: The fact is, whats going to save us is us. You know, its like the inverse of Pogos statement there, you know: Ive seen the enemy and the enemy is us. Ive seen the messiah and the messiah is us. BR: Very good.

BD: I hope this kind of gets people to kind of drop their old paradigms and I hope I get them to, you know, like Marshall McKluen, tune in and drop out. In other words, drop out of false lies, whether its politics or religion or thinking these other things are solutions. Become personally responsible. Become public and interact with other people. Dont think that, by default, if you dont say anything about it youre not responsible for the death of 15- to 32-million Iranians and a radiation cloud that circulates the planet and destroys your own health. KC: Right. BD: The sins of omission are greater than the sins of commission. And the sins of silence are greater than the sins of action. BR: Yes. KC: Yes. I second that. And this is where we ask for everyone to take part. BR: And its all got something to do with you. BD: Right. Absolutely. I hope it transforms some hearts. As Yeshua HaMasaich Jesus said: The message of the kingdom is now, which means, its now, as soon as you attend to shemah, to hear and do the will of the Creator God of the universe and not to think that you can set external commandments and create peace on Earth. What youll do is youll create pieces of Earth. [laughter] BR: Is there any final sound-byte that you... Is there anything that you havent said that you want to leave these people with right now? Because this is the chance. BD: Well, what I would say is, firstly, prepare for a series of spasms and disasters. BR: When you say prepare, you mean physically and logistically prepare? BD: Spiritually prepare first. But physically prepare. Have your food and water, have your civil defense. We have a whole series of civil defense things. Im actually working with Gordon Peterson in Homeland Security to stop aircraft bringing in pandemic viruses. Prepare to have things to protect yourself from pandemic avian flu, which we have on our website, Prepare yourself to be home-quarantined for anywhere from six weeks to two months or more. BR: Anywhere in the world? Or here in America? BD: Anywhere. Anywhere on the planet. Be prepared for food shortages on a massive scale, starting as early as this fall. Be prepared to know how to have... in other words, I dont tell people to join the militia. I tell people to start shooting clubs. I believe that we need to exert our Second Amendment right, not so that we can go out and start shooting fellow Americans, but we can protect ourselves if things get out of hand. I worked with federal agents at the Federal Center in Denver and they did simulations and actually were stockpiling pallets of gold bullion, gold coins, and bales of heroine to interact with gangs; so that between 4 and 12 days after a state of national civil emergency, like nuclear war, they could trade with the gangs that would control every city. BR: When was that, Bill, that you encountered that? BD: That was in 1997. BR: But thats all still in force. BD: Oh yes, all those things. Their COG [Continuity of Government]

which was set up by George Bush, Sr., made it even more serious. So that COG plan, and all those things, have been done going back, like over grades, going back since Eisenhower. BR: OK. BD: Theyve been doing this for a long time. And its not just in America. You have to understand, these plans are replicated in one form or another in Canada, in Britain, in Australia, in African nations, in China. They have policies. Theres over 4,000 underground facilities around the world alone. And in America, two giant facilities besides the little ones, that are a mile-and-a-half to four miles down. I mean, theyve been going crazy. And most of the illegal money is drug money coming from the illegal sale of heroine and cocaine, OxyContin, Ecstasy, etc., three-quarters of a trillion dollars into weird projects. BR: Yeah. BD: And again, theyre addicted to this. Theyre addicted to money that isnt under the scrutiny of the Congress or Senate. And I dont think, if either party is elected, theyre going to steer us away from this. We have to get away from thinking the political system is going to solve this. Its not. Or the religious, you know. A lot of people think if they just go pray a whole lot in church, whatever church they belong to? Theyre crazy. BR: Yep. BD: They need to start taking action. We mean action to the street, to their neighbors and they need to say: Hey, I dont want to participate in the winding down of civilization. BR: Yep. BD: Because they need to see that this is the first stage here. This is the devolution of the economy. And the next stage after the devolution of the economy and a release of a pandemic or martial law -- and it wont just be in America -- is the hard-chipping of the population, forced vaccination, pandemic, and the hard kills going to start. BR: Mm hm. BD: And Im talking about hard kill, where theyre going to try to kill 90% of human beings on the planet with either pandemics, injected viruses, lethal weapons systems or whatever, or starvation just because of economic chaos. And people say: Oh no. They wouldnt do that. I have contacts inside the Canadian and U.S. government that have said, if there is a total breakdown of society for 30 days, half the population in Canada and the same in the States would be dead. BR: Yep. From violence. BD: Not from a pandemic. From violence. BR: Yeah. Yep. People will do it themselves. Yeah. BD: The violence will be... Just take a city, like, lets say you had a city like Los Angeles and you took out 20 blocks with a 10-kiloton nuclear weapon, with a population kill of lets say 200,000. And California devolved into a state where theres no trucks going anywhere with any food. And this is a place where its a breadbasket. This state would be a seething caldron of death, and half the population would probably be dead within 30 days. Just because of the roving gangs shooting each other up, and trying to grab food that was left and getting trucks and whatever. KC: Right. BR: Yes.

BD: It would be insane. It would make Road Warrior look like a party. And people say: Oh no, it couldnt get that bad. I said: The guys who told me were special forces that worked at the Federal Center that told me this. And they shocked me back in 97 when they told me this stuff. BR: Yeah. And all of this is being modeled as well. BD: Yeah. So I tell people theyve got to start preparing for disaster. And then well come back out of that. Because when they bring it out, the next thing is: Oh, that wasnt too bad. It was only two weeks of martial law. Or six weeks. BR: Yes. Thats just to get people acclimatized to the idea. BD: Just like Katrina, you know. We let the people in Katrina now live in trailers that would ruin their health or they have homes that are still loaded with mold that are killing them. Right? Or, we let them federalize parts of the country. Thats totally against the Constitution. Right? Theyre still federalizing. The city of Detroits federalized, the city of New Orleans. This is a violation of Federal and State law. What are they doing? Theyre eventually going to federalize the whole country because theyve been, grade by grade, running martial law and admiralty law parallel with the Constitution. And eventually theyre just going to get rid of that, in George Bush, Jr.s terms: That GD piece of paper. Theyre just going to throw it away and say: Guess what guys. Weve got enough executive orders; weve got enough Blackwater Security worldwide -- which are the Rothschilds private army. Right? -- And were going to take you on. BR: Yep. BD: OK? So people need to grasp that. And they need to be prepared for things. And they need to be able to stand up. And if they dont stand up, well... BR: Is it possible that some of the white hats in Intel and the military will stand up themselves? BD: They are already. Ive already got contacts whove told me. Like William Fallon, you know, was public. He said: Not on my watch will you start a war against Iran. They fired him. KC: Yes. BD: They put two people of Jewish descent in there that are willing to take orders, that are willing to attack Iran. BR: Sure. BD: Twice in the last year-and-a-half, these Israelis tried to go downtown. The last time was around June 24th when the American government allowed 100 Israeli jets to do air maneuvers, and a war game over Iraqi airspace. And the Russians detected it with their satellite-based imaging, and started to scramble, transfer codes -- for the launch codes -- for their submarine-launched nuclear missiles, and their Bear bombers heading toward North America. People dont know. We were moments away from a thermonuclear war in June. BR: We heard about that. BD: I mean, most people say: Oh, that doesnt happen. You people are crazy. I say: Well, Ive got contacts. I went back weeks later and verified it from my sources. BR: Yep. BD: And so people say: Oh, that cant happen. Youve just got a really good imagination. I said: I wish. I mean, this is a damned nightmare. BR: Yeah. BD: And its really happening. But Im brave enough to say it because

I know theres no alternative. If I dont speak out against this... You cant move far enough away. You cant move to the south island of New Zealand and think youre going to be safe. Or Paraguay. There is nowhere on this planet you can move away from this without it eventually taking you if you dont stand up to this evil. So if I have any messages: Prepare for disaster. Speak out now because youre going to be silenced very shortly. And believe me, they wont be able to silence your blood-curdling screams as youre hauled away in a Black-Op truck in the middle of the night, or a railcar with the shackles grinding into your ankles and your wrists, as youre screaming because you know youre going away to the death chambers. OK? This really is getting prepared. Theyre getting prepared. Theyve shipped in the plastic coffins. Theyve got the railcars. Theyve got the incineration stations all ready. Theyve got everything ready. People say: Oh, it doesnt exist. I say: Well, my condolences to you because if you want to attack me and say that Im a crackerjack because I give all these spiritual and other things, youre going to suffer and then youre going to die. And youre not just going to die a physical death, youre going to die a spiritual death. BR: Yep. And one of the reasons why you die a spiritual death is because you never stood up when you could have done. BD: Right. The greatest sins are the sins of silence in the face of evil. BR: Yes. We second that. KC: Absolutely. We absolutely second that. Thank you very much. BR: Bill, thank you so much. (continued from Part 1 and Part 2) __________________________

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