When did you talk to Ms. Ayers? Who was he?

“This was in the mid 1980’s” Obama “looked about 19 years old” but was probably in his early 20s. “Mrs. Ayers told me that her family had been helping out a brilliant young black man,” Hulton said and whom he believes she said was from Kenya. His name was an unusual one

Affidavit “In the early 1990s”

Corsi Interview “in the early 1990s”

Corsi Article Over a period of years in the late 1980s and early 1990s, “I was taken aback by how enthusiastic she was about him,” Hulton says. “And I believe she said he was from either Kenya or Indonesia, and I favor Indonesia in my recollection.” He says that Mary Ayers told him the student’s name, but that it was a “strange name” that he could not remember, even though at the time it sounded African to him. About a year after discussing with Mary Ayers the foreign student she and her husband were supporting, Hulton recalls meeting a young black male on the sidewalk in front of the Ayers home. Hulton assumed that by “helping” the student, Mary Ayers meant she and her husband were financially supporting the black foreignexchange student with his education. “He looked right at me and told me he was going to be president of the United States,” “I know how people will say things because they have an ambition, but it did not come across that way. It came across as if this young black male was telling me he was going to be president, almost as if it were the statement of a scientific fact that had already been determined, as if his being president had been already pre-arranged.”

that young blackman from Kenya that she just bubbled over with great enthusiasm that they were helping out.

“impressed with a foreign, black student”

“Enthusiastically talking to me about this young black student that they were helping out. And she referred to him as a foreign student.”

What was his name?

“a very young man who introduced himself as Barak Obama”

“He had an unusual, foreign sounding name.”

“He had a strange name. She mentioned it, I didn’t remember it at the time.”

How much time passed before meeting him?

“One day Hulton found himself on the sidewalk outside the Ayers home”

“A period of time, I am not sure of the exact period of time, after the conversation with Mary Ayers,”

“I don’t know if it was some months or even a year later, there was a young black man walking down the street, and he greeted me.”

How were they helping him?

who had come out from Chicago on the train that morning to thank Mr. Ayers for his help in his schooling ( Columbia ? ) We had a short conversation about how nice Mr. and Mrs. Ayers are and that he ( Obama ) is going to be president of the Unitet States. Yes, he did say that!

Hulton said he did not learn whether the help Obama received from the Ayers’ was financial or in some other form.

“Mary stated Thomas Ayers was helping this student through school financially.”


at one point Mr. Obama said that he intended to become President of the United States. Mr. Hulton said he was “taken aback” by the statement but recalls that he did not think Mr. Obama was “arrogant, but just self assured and a person with a lot of self confidence.” “It was not said with hubris,” Hulton recalled, “but with an air of self-assuredness.” “I told him there was no reason why he couldn’t become president,” Hulton recalled.

“He stated during the conversation that he was ‘going to be’ President of the United States.” I was taken aback by this statement because he came across as if his presidency was prearranged.”

“He looked right at me and said “I’m going to be President of the United States.”…It came across like this was something that’s already been determined. And I have to tell you that it struck me in such a way that I was speechless.”

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