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Not your duty gun, was it? No. Oh, that's good. Was it

I don't of.

-- no, no, I don't

so,

not that I know JARAMILLO: LAZARUS:

DETECTIVE STEPHANIE into, yeah,

Never been notified? No. My car's been broken

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DETECTIVE STEPHANIE he lives

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tell you where

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if you want to know. STEARNS: LAZARUS: Oh, really? No', Yeah, I· cou.l dn ' t tell .

DETECTIVE STEPHANIE you. DETECTIVE were notes looking

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like I said, as we know, we had read the saying you guys you know.

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friends

had probl'ems or words And the reason we're

and they got heated, asking you

is they had mentioned And they've also occurred.

an incident
told us that

at her work had an incident LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: of time

occurred.

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at her house

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the period

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at all. JARAMILLO: LAZARUS: No? I mean, INC. I -- you know what?

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you know, I -- that

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to say I don't remember,

I -- that doesn't

sound familiar.

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I mean, would you remember
--

something

like that in your life if
LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: Well, Some

STEPHANIE DETECTIVE

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think but .

sort of drama

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the other woman

type of thing?

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did you ever duke it out

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specific,

you

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like I said, I mean --

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eaten.

They're

okay,

I fought come on.

her, so I must've that's you I can' t that's --

killed her.
know, even

I mean,

I mean,

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I don' t even know who those peop'le are. say I met any of these people. I mean,

'i t 's insane. DE~ECTIVE STEPHANIE don't mean DETECTIVE I mean, would JARAMILLO: I mean, but -- I don't know. remember,. I remember JARAMILLO: LAZARUS: it. . Uh-huh. If it happened I honestly I

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those;

right?

I mean

LAZARUS: JARAMILLO:

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or car crash, yeah,

something

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have you gotten STEARNS: LAZARUS:

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DETECTIVE STBPHANIE mean,

Yeah. -- in your life? You know, I

a few at work. DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE STEARNS: LAZARUS: STEARNS: Well, fights -cause at work are --

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kind of different, but --

we've

all had uses of force or whatever, STEPHANIE LAZARUS:
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I

haven't

even,had

even

a lot of those, DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE actually

mean

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you know if you're -- if you're

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STEPHANIE DETECTIVE mad at each I mean,

LAZARUS: STEARNS:

I mean,

I played

-- like if -- if Dan and I got in the squad room, it. I mean --

other

and we threw blows later, I would

20 years

remember

STEPHANIE it. DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE STEPHANIE

LAZARUS:

I wouLd think

I would remember

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why

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to me at all.

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mean --

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number mean fight

your life, you know, would you remember the
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kind

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just a physical
each other,

where

scratching,

you know, whatever?
Maybe. I mean, I played I can't say sports.

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LAZARUS:

in a lot.

You know,

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games --

get intense.

Everybody

But, like I said, this -- you
a bell.

this is just not ringing JARAMILLO: LAZARUS: Nothing? I mean, It's just INC.

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in

think so, too.

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you're

in this other

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figure

recall.
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LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: STEARNS:

would You

think. --

talked

Especially

if it got physical;

LAZARUS: JARAMILLO:

Well,

I would

think. to, you

And it's relating

a guy that you were dating STEPHANIE DETECTIVE LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: Well and but she's dating now,

you know,

and

it's -LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: Yeah. -- just kind of like INC. a whole

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I would

think.

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DETECTIVE JARAMILLO:
I'm trying

Yeah.

No, cause I'm -- I at the notes, and

to -- I'm looking

these people the finger

are kind of -- I mean,

they're pointing

at you.

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know, that's

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--

you know,

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you mean,

-- I don't know what crazy to me. Yeah,

to tell you.

that just sounds

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don't recall ever going

so you -- offhand, and having

you

into her house

words

and physically,

you know No. attacking her, her

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like that? that's -- no.

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No, I mean, Nothing?

No, no, not at all. Okay. Well, on some of

the -- on this case, you know, in '86; .right? Detectives They

this is _.- occurred the scene, things

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processed

of that nature. stuff, stuff.
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did fingerprints

and all that

you know,

the -- well, you know the standard.

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you've

been doing

than I have.
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Well,

r don't know about that.

I got 26 years

on. Yeah. Going on 26.

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but, you know, as they could

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they did the best

they looked things

at a lot of -- a lot of And you were

and different --

in. this case.

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LAZARUS:

I mean,

if you guys are you know, that. (800) 972-3376 I -- I

claiming that I'm a suspect,
gotta problem with, you know,

then, with

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-- is that what you're

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We're

trying

to figure out

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I'm just saying, if you're

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I'm jus t --- you're here of your own

I mean

STEPHANIE DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE not -- you're whenever you

LAZARUS: STEARNS: LAZARUS: JARAMILLO:

No. -- you don't Oh, I know I mean, -I mean --

but,

you know you're

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give you some background
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saying

that we had

this big old fight. talking about.

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even know what you're don't want

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to, you know, even

get in trouble saying

tha~ I didn't DETECTIVE DETECTIVE STEPHANIE like

do or you~re Okay.

JARAMILLO: STEARNS: LAZARUS:

No, we understand. I mean, turned how would you guys on you? no. telling

it if the tables DETECTIVE DETECTIVE

were

JARAMILLO: STEARNS: free

I understand, No,

that's why we're

you, If to

I mean,

you're

to go whenever

you wa~t. and you want

if this makes if you want STEPHANIE

you uncomfortable,

to -Well, now, you're starting to

LAZARUS:

make

me uncomfortable. DETECTIVE JARAMILLO: they And The could thing is, I mean,

detectives crime

did what Okay?

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on che case.

STEPHANIE DETECTIVE

I -- I don't know that or not. Okay. Now, what·we'd like

to do is -.- obviously, and things nowadays. would

you know

about all the DNA stuff

of that nature

that gets done on cases

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You know, if we as~ed you for a DNA swab,

you be'willing to give us one? STEPHANIE LAZARUS: Maybe. We1.l-Cause now -- now -- now no~ -I

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stuff works_
I have

I -- cause I know how this
get me wrong. time. You're right.

Okay? doing

Don't

been

this a long

DETECTIVE STEPHANIE recording you know, this,

JARAMILLO: LAZARUS: because

Yeah. And -- and I wish I had been now it sounds like, telling me t.hese

-- because

there's

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you're

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say I'm fighting trying

with her.

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like you're a long

to, you know -- I've been doing this

time.
JARAMILLO: STEARNS: LAZARUS: like you're Yeah. We know. Okay? trying And -- and, now, it to pin something on

DETECTIVE DETECTIVE STEPHANIE almost me. DETECTIVE STEPHANIE sounds

JARAMILLO: LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: cases

No . Now, I got that sense. what it gets to on

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-- on these

-- and you know it as well as and eliminate suspects.

do -- our job is to identity STEPHANIE DETECTIVE LAZARUS: JARAMILLO:

I can't believe

this.

So if we ask you to a point a buccal swab, so we can you be willing to do

to give us a DNA sample, identify that? STEPHANIE DETECTIV~ STEPHANIE I-DETECTIVE to. I mean, JARAMILLO: because -- you right LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: LAZARUS: or eliminate

you, would

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great.

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we can to try to put this thing together. name

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reason. LAZARUS:

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are pointing

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for whatever

STEPHANIE
DETECTIVE STEPHANIE

I don't know why. And-That's just crazy. crazy_
be

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LAZARUS:

I mean,

that's

just -- that's

absolutely
And

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JARAMILLO:

it would

irresponsible STEPHANIE your job.

on our part not to look at it. LAZARUS.: I know _ You guys have to do

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I

to contact

somebody

DETECTIVE

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That's I mean

fair. cause I know how this

STEPHANIE stuff works,

I mean

DETECTIVE

STEARNS: LAZARUS: it because STEARNS:

Sure. I -- I -- I -- I -- I just

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it's just -- I mean,

I'm sho~ked.

I'm really

DETECTIVE STEPHANIE blame fight -- saying and

JARAMILLO:

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that I did this.

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so I went and killed JARAMILLO: LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: LAZ~US: Well That's

her?

I mean, come on.

DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE STEPHANIE courtesy.

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Okay. Well,

All right. for giving me the

thanks

I wish

I'd tape recorded Thanks Yeah,

it. time.

DETECTIVE STEPHANI~

STEARNS: LAZARUS:

for your thank you.

DETECTIVE' JARAMILLO: care. DETECTIVE STEPHANIE insane. T~is STEARNS: LAZARUS: is crazy. STEARNS:

All right .. St:;ephanie.take

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All right. This is crazy. This is

DETECTIVE

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going

to bring her back

in.
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JARAMILLO: murder.

Stephanie, Okay?

you're

under

for Sherri's

And we have your

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phone. UNIDENTIFIED your pockets? STEPHANIE SPEAKER: your Okay. Anything else in

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Spread

legs, please.

LAZARUS:

Just ~y knee brace. Your knee brace? Camera or

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE something?

SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

Am I on Candid

This

is insane. Do Miranda.
Do

DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE Okay. silent.

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Stephanie.

Okay.

Give me one second.

Stephanie,

you have the right to remain

Do you understand? LAZARUS: JARAMILLO: Yes. Anything you say may be used

STEPHANIE DETECTIVE against

you in court. LAZARUS:

Do you understand? Yes. You have before the right any to the

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any questioning LAZARUS:

if you want. Yes ..

STEPHANIE DETECTIVE right now? STEPHANIE DETECTIVE DETECTIVE DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE STEPHANIE

JARAMILLO:

Do you want to talk to us

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No.
Okay. All right. Okay. This is crazy.

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I'm like in shock. DETECTIVE STEPHANIE partner

I'm totally Okay.

STEARNS: LAZARUS·:

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-- where my 'partner -- told my partner. STEARNS:

DETECTIVE on in.

We'll take care of that.
take care of that. I call my husband?

Come

You can just -- we'll LAZARUS: STEARNS: Can

STEPHANIE DETECTIVE in a bit.

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make some notifications

Okay?

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-- it's just SPEAKER:

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them STEPHANIE Just rip it up. LAZARUS: Do me a favor. No, it's okay.

It's -- I usually

shred my home

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address. UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE SPEAKER: Okay. you just

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So could You

if it --

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STEPHANIE rip it up.

LAZARUS:

No, just

if you would just

UNIDENTIFIED leave it there STEPHANIE

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why don't we

until

we get over Okay. And

there?

LAZARUS: SPEAKER:

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we'll

take care of it

STEPHANIE

LAZARUS: SPEAKER:

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just

it's -- it's -okay.

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Your watch? hitting my watch.
Yeah.

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SPEAKER: They're

UNIDENTIFIED your watch off?

You want me to take

going

to take it off anyway.

Property bag?
STEPHANIE DETECTIVE DETECTIVE LAZARUS: STEARNS: JARAMILLO: Well, Yeah, just just put it in here. sit down

We'll

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UNIDENTIFIED DETECTIVE DETECTIVE too. Want

SPEAKER:

Her watch.
-- with her property bag.

JARAMILLO: STEARNS:

Go ahead

and grab her ring,

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to stand

up for just a second.
Oh, geez. See if I can get it

STEPHANIE off.

LAZARUS:

DETEC'I':IVE STEARNS: STEPHANIE lick my finger. LAZARUS:

Okay.

I'm going

to probably

have to

DETECTIVE STEARNS:
get it later. STEPHANIE don't think
I

If you -- if you can't, we can

LAZARUS:

I've

got a necklace

on, too.

can get the ring off.
You never take this ~ Yeah, occasionally. (800) 972-3376

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Just wait on the ring. Nothing on the ring?

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

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No, I need a little spit. Well, one more. (Inaudible) to your knee?

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Here's

a chair

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE basketball. UNIDENTIFIED STEPHAN~E

SPEAKER:

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LAZARUS:

I tore my ACL playing

SPEAKER:

Recently? '98. Oh. get fixed right.

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LAZARUS:

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SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

Michael Hum.

UNIDENTIFIED UNIDENTIFIED reconstruction? STEPHANIE

SPEAKER: SPEAKER:

Did you do an ACL

LAZARUS: SPEAKER:

Yeah,

but he screwed or --

it up.

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE cadaver tendon.

Patella

LAZARUS: Yeah,

Patella, he --

ACL patella

with a

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I was

in the hospital,

like,

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Is that considered no, cause

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It wasn't,

-Lombardo

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the knee

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doctor.
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STEPHANIE

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that?
and Jobe. yeah. very good.

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

Kerlin

LAZARUS:

Oh, yeah, Lombardo, Steven Lombardo,

UNIDENTIFIED probably

SPEAKER: now though.

retired

STEPHANIE is real

LAZARUS: old.

Yeah,

I think.

And one of the

Is it Kerlin? SPEAKER: Yeah.

No.

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

LAZARUS: SPEAKER:

Yeah. It's

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE sports -- he'S

the original.
did

LAZARUS: a sports

Well, surgeon.

this guy supposedly

He just had his head

up his butt

when

be did mine SPEAKER:

that day.

UNIDENTIFIED

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you the first one of

the day?
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Yeah,
They

I don't

know

even

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when

it was.

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Tuesday; what

the first one on Tuesday.

day I had the surgery. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: So you know when right? No, not it's going

to rain

like a couple

days before;

STEPHANIE really.

LAZARUS:

You know what?

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UNIDENTlFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:
I

Really? don't think so. start to hurt

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even -the weatherman LAZARUS:

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to rain? all the

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it just hurts

time.
UNIDENTIFIED DETECTIVE little while. SPEAKER: Hum. going to still be a did you

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Hey, we're

Can you coordinate
your status is?

(Inaudible)

tell them what STEPHANIE

LAZARUS:

You working RHD now?

You work

RHD?
UNIDENTIFIED DETECTIVE STEPHANIE SPEAKER:

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

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to seeing people. STEARNS: Okay. I work in back right

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STEARNS:

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to be awhile,

so I~ll call you ~hen UNIDENTIFIED back. DETECTIVE STEPHANIE No. UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE DETECTIVE STEARNS: LAZARUS:

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by Cathy;

Oh, by --

right?

SPEAKER:

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LAZ~US: STEARNS:

Past? Right. Yeah, back Right. you know, in the back

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office. LAZARUS: Do you know

STEPHANIE called

if somebody's
Do they They did say

my husband?

Does anybody SPEAKER:

know?

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-- they'll

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notifications

in a little bit here. Excuse me.
I haven't eaten

STEPHANIE LAZARUS:

anything, so that's why I'm bu~ing. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: STEPHANIE LAZARUS:
the morning, so I can't

You a breakfast

person?

I -- I have to fake a pill in
eat anything Dh. for an hour.

UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:
STEPHANIE

LAZARUS:' So I usually just come in and at the office. SPE~ER:
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eat some yogurt
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it hard when you have

something

with medication

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UNIDENTIFIED breakfast things person. SPEAKER: You kind

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of have

not a

to force both

down.

STEPHANIE

LAZARUS:

Oh, I can't -- I have to take
I

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it on an empty stomach.

can't

eat anything.

UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:
STEPHANIE

At all?

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SPEAKER:

No.

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

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Oh.

LAZARUS:

I have to take it empty.
You don't take anything for

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take other

to say there
than for pain.

you can really LAZARUS: Yep.

It's

just swelled up.

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UNIDENTIFIEDSPEAKER: Advil. UNIDENTIFIED
STEPHANIE SPEAKER: LAZARUS:

Did

you come down wrong?

I just went to go block a my leg and just

girl's shot
snapped

and just hyperextended

it. SPEAKER:
LAZARUS: Ouch. You heard

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UNIDENTIFIED
STEPHANIE

it?

Dh,

yeah,

I heard the snap. many
days done?

UNIDENTIFIED
afterwards

SPEAKER:

Dh.

How

did they -- did you have LAZARUS: Li~e, maybe That

the surgery a month. Wow.

STEPHANIE

UNIDENTIFIED

SPEAKER:

long?

STEPHANIE LAZARUS: longer. I should've

No, I think

I should've

waited

waited. Swelling to go down?
table

UNIDENTIFIED
Somebody stuck gum

SPEAKER:

Yeah.
leg

on the chair

-- on the

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here.
STEPHANI-E LAZARUS: decide, What

are they trying to

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do you know?
SPEAKER:
I

UNIDENTIFIED arrangements STEPHANIE

think

theY're

making

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for wherever LAZARUS:

we're I said INC.

going.

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waiting

--

arrangements? for a

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SPEAKER:

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you just put one of the cuffs UNIDENTI~IED STEPHANIE SPEAKER:

on the chair?

Sure. come on, you guys.

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I mean, Sure.

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UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

Give me a break. Yeah, no problem.

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

This is like -You want your left or

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I -- it doesn't

matter . though.

let me call my husband

is, like,

UNIDENTIFIED still have your your ring off.

Okay. there

They already

they

over

if you want to take

STEPHANIE

LAZARUS:

Oh. No, she can -Saliva works wonders. ~

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SPEAKER: SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

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LAZARUS:

No,

I can get it off.

It

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SPEAKER:

It's
Okay.

coming.

UNIDENTIFIED now;

We have all your

jewelry

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right? STEPHANIE
~AZARUS: Yeah, I just

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE earrings

SPEAKER: No,

No earrings

or anything?
wear

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LAZARUS:

I don't usually

at work.
SPEAKER: SPEAKER: SPEAKER: SPEAKER: SPEAKER: SPEAKER: SPEAKER: SPEAKER: Is it raining? It is. Yeah, Oh. It sure is. Weird. Huh. (Inaudible) know what time it is?
it

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LAZARUS:

Do you

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

7:46.
me.
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LAZARUS:

Excuse

UNIDENTIFIED how you guys

SPEAKER: here.

(Inaudible)

don't know

eat around

UNIDENTIFIED

SPEAKER:

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Huh? Ea t when you can
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I guess

I should wave

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getting

ridiculous. for?

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

Who are we waiting have no idea now. Criminalist? want

LAZARUS:

UNIDENTIFIED water or something? STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

some

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LAZARUS:

Yeah,

I haven't
I

had -- yeah, had

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if you -- if you don't minq,
anything to eat all day. S.PEAKER:

cause

haven't

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LAZARUS:

I realize It sounds

it's kind of early, is

bu t; I got up at 4: 30. growling. UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

like your stomach

SPEAKER:

No,

it was one of theirs. his? somebody's stomach.

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LAZARUS:

That was Yeah,

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE someone

SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

It sounds stomach's

like -- it sounds growling.

-- someone's SPEAKER: SPEAKER: Okay?

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it.

(Inaudible) When mine goes off, there's
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that's

usually

around

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You ever fallen
No.
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SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

You mean

like coming down the

stairs

or something? SPEAKER: Yeah,
not --like, when it's

UNIDENTIFIED

coming

to a stop if you're LAZARUS:

STEPHANIE

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UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE si t down. UNIDENTIFIED th~t once, never

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usually

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I

made

the mistake

of doing

STEPHANIE

LAZARUS:

Yeah, ·it stops pretty Uh-huh.

quick.

UNIDENTIFIEP just slowing down.

SPEAKER: All

You think it's it jerks.

the sudden Yeah.
And

STEPHANIE

LAZARUS: SPEA~ER:

UNIDENTIFIED

if you're

going down

the stairs

at the right

time, you eat it. Oh, yeah, I've seen people do

STEPHANIE it. Where

LAZARUS:

do you

take it to?
SPEAKER:

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE
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out east.

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UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

UNIDENTIFIED

SPEAKER: Yeah.

STEPHANIE LAZARUS:
appreciate Thank it. Thank

Oh, thank you. I appreciate

I
it.

you so much.

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UNIDENTIFIED UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE SPE~ER: SPEAKER: Here's Thanks. take some medication Thariks. checkers on I'm not in the water.

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I just

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. the morning,

eat anything.

UNIDENTIFIED my phone, turning

I was playing

and it beat me, so I'm pissed I hate it when

at it.

it on again. LAZARUS:

the computer wins. does. I just try and kid

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It usually
I

UNI.DENTIFIED myself.
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SPEAKER:

know.

just suckered LAZARUS:

me. Thanks again for that water

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LAZARUS:

Is the detective Uh-huh.

here?

UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

LAZARUS:

Can I talk to him? Sure~ She wants to tal~ to

UNIDENTIFIED you. UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE this? UNIDENTIFIED STEPHANIE

SPEAKER:

SPEAKER:

Hey,

Stephanie? for

LAZARUS:

Do yo~ guys have a warrant

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Yes, we do.

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Can I see it? You may.
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don't have an-attorney

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LAZARUS:

I -- can I have my glasses,

SPEAKER:

Yes, you may.

Okay?
I

Let

me get this property need to collect some

out of here. hairs first

Actually, if I could.

just

Basically,

I'm going

to layout

a piece

of paper.

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to -- I guess

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LAZARUS:

Like this? Yes. Actually, could I -to have to

UNIDENTIFIED I'm just going

SPEAKER:

to do a little some hairs.

-- I'm going

comb and remove can. hard. Okay? Okay?

I will be as gentle as I to try to tug too

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I won't

-- I'm not going

But I do need

to pull a few. tired.

Let me know if your neck is getting We'll take a bre~k. How are you doing?

Are you okay

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so far? STEPHANIE LAZARUS: SPEAKER: We've (No Audible Response) I apologize.

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UNIDENTIFIED (Inaudible) get a couple you wouldn't unless 9kay.

I'm sorry.

got a lot -- I just need to You do -- if the swab, if you would

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of swabs mind,

from your mouth. just hand you

I will

you prefer

that I do it and just (Inaudible) thing. thank you.

rub along

the cheek Again,

the same of rubbing Thank you.

And if you wouldn't too. I

mind,

just

sort it.

the gum area, Okay.

appreciate

Thank ·you very much. he's completed.

UNIDENTIFIED Are we ready to --

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DETECTlVE STEARNS: to transport.

Stephanie, we're getting ready

So what our plan is to do is to keep You had a black

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this as low key as possible.

sweatshirt with you this morning, didn't you, when you came in here. Didn't you have some kind of ~weatshirt? In here? Yeah, did you bring one·in? No, I've got a jacket in my

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my -- I have my backpack, my lunch pail, and my

black jacket.
DETECTIVE STEPHANIE DETECTIVE STEARNS·: LAZARUS: STEARNS:

You have a jacket with that? Up in my office. All right.
I

We're going to -and we' 11 put the

we'll send somebody down for that
jacket over your cuffs.

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We're going to have SIS escort

you downstairs.
really--

I'll

be in tow, so it doesn't_

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STEPHANIE

LAZARUS:

Where am I going? You're going down to the

DETECTIVE STEARNS:

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women's facility at Century Sheriffs. STEPHANIE LAZARUS: make a call my DETECTIVE STEARNS: location, we can. As soon as we get to that Can I call my husband? Can I

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I mean,

but whatever

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STEPHANIE thyroid cancer.

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