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william says: (4:40:20 PM) hi +++ catatonia says: (10:08:13 PM) William william says: (10:08:22 PM) greetings friend +++ catatonia says: (10:08:36 PM) Long time no communica. william says: (10:08:42 PM) ill say. william says: (10:08:56 PM) got my bio mark, 52.5 william says: (10:08:59 PM) im happy with. +++ catatonia says: (10:09:04 PM) Well donede. william says: (10:09:30 PM) thanks. william says: (10:09:34 PM) i didnt fail. william says: (10:09:42 PM) so you coming up next weekend sir? +++ catatonia says: (10:10:25 PM) eeeeeeeeee. +++ catatonia says: (10:10:28 PM) Um. +++ catatonia says: (10:10:45 PM) Ya see, the two people who my dad was supposed to hire actually quit before the job began. william says: (10:10:59 PM)

I thought youmight say something like that. +++ catatonia says: (10:11:09 PM) Fuck I'm being serious willie. william says: (10:11:14 PM) same. +++ catatonia says: (10:11:15 PM) *william +++ catatonia says: (10:11:22 PM) Ugh. william says: (10:11:42 PM) so that means...no dcfc, or no montreal. +++ catatonia says: (10:11:50 PM) Dcfc. +++ catatonia says: (10:11:53 PM) Ill be in montreal soon. william says: (10:12:11 PM) Hopefully. william says: (10:12:29 PM) people were snorting codine last night, and i resisted. william says: (10:12:33 PM) proud of me? +++ catatonia says: (10:13:28 PM) Thankgod. william says: (10:14:11 PM) im even surprised at myself. +++ catatonia says: (10:15:10 PM) Damn what were you thinking when you declined? william says: (10:15:23 PM) what you would say. +++ catatonia says: (10:16:27 PM)

Hmm, me thinks that good. william says: (10:16:38 PM) thanks william says: (10:16:54 PM) I really need to settle down, i feel so stupid lately. +++ catatonia says: (10:17:13 PM) well christmas will curb your ways. william says: (10:17:23 PM) au contraire? +++ catatonia says: (10:17:50 PM) well its how you want it to be william william says: (10:17:59 PM) certainly, im going to eat ill be back. +++ catatonia says: (10:18:11 PM) Ok we still need to talks. william says: (10:35:50 PM) goes without saying. +++ catatonia says: (10:36:20 PM) indeed. william says: (10:36:28 PM) Icelandic fishermen kill a Fin Whale (pictured), stating that the International Whaling Commission ban on commercial whaling does not apply. +++ catatonia says: (10:37:22 PM) Hmmm.... fucked but not that fucked.... do not go to prison planet. william says: (10:37:47 PM) ill try william says: (10:38:00 PM) i figured out why i was confused a while ago william says: (10:38:07 PM) www.prisonplanet.com

william says: (10:38:12 PM) www.prisonplanet.net +++ catatonia says: (10:40:17 PM) and whys that? william says: (10:41:09 PM) they are differen +++ catatonia says: (10:41:31 PM) same content different lay out. william says: (10:41:39 PM) oh +++ catatonia says: (10:42:02 PM) bothin equally inssance. william says: (10:42:16 PM) whats your solution to israel conflict anyways +++ catatonia says: (10:42:27 PM) stop killing one anouther. +++ catatonia says: (10:42:41 PM) worry about yourself and not what other idiots are doing. william says: (10:42:55 PM) thats obv not an option. +++ catatonia says: (10:43:51 PM) its all you can doo,,,, oinly long term solution... if you knew yourself better you would know every body else better because wer are alll one... which is becayse of the fact that if you cant know the person you are with 24/7 365 how can you know anything else that is fleeing and inperminant. william says: (10:45:48 PM) its not a solution, its a result to a solution +++ catatonia says: (10:46:03 PM) elaborate. william says: (10:47:10 PM) stop killing each other, cant just happen +++ magnanimous says: (10:48:59 PM)

why. +++ magnanimous says: (10:49:15 PM) if every one stopped killing each other then it would trickle down from there.. +++ magnanimous says: (10:49:35 PM) When we stop diong the worst thing possible the rest are simpler as they depleat. william says: (10:50:27 PM) of course, but i hate to break it to you. william says: (10:50:33 PM) but thats not going to happen any time soon. +++ magnanimous says: (10:50:43 PM) not with that attitude... +++ magnanimous says: (10:50:51 PM) if enough people believe it it will happen. william says: (10:53:37 PM) true william says: (10:53:41 PM) true william says: (10:53:42 PM) but william says: (10:53:56 PM) I believe it, hard to convince others likewise. william says: (10:54:02 PM) they have such strong hatred for each other... +++ magnanimous says: (11:00:06 PM) all you can do is lead by example. william says: (11:00:48 PM) not true. +++ magnanimous says: (11:00:58 PM) You cant force orthers to do shit.

william says: (11:01:39 PM) you can teach. +++ magnanimous says: (11:01:47 PM) cant impose. william says: (11:02:30 PM) you can teach. +++ magnanimous says: (11:02:54 PM) thats imposeing.... a set of beleifs as truth. william says: (11:03:33 PM) so, they are "correct" beliefs. william says: (11:03:35 PM) or is everyone right in their own way. +++ magnanimous says: (11:06:03 PM) every one is god... so if everyone know who they really were and what was giong on inside them then they wouldnt have to worry about other redicilous shit... because whats inside is insane enough to warent far more extensive studies into the self on a self to self basis. william says: (11:07:13 PM) this is true william says: (11:07:13 PM) ill be right back william says: (11:07:17 PM) in like 10 william says: (11:07:18 PM) ish +++ magnanimous says: (11:07:47 PM) k william says: (11:17:30 PM) where were we william says: (11:19:04 PM) well im tired of this israel discussion, i believe its unsolvable. +++ magnanimous says: (11:19:15 PM)

well if you believe it it will remain so. william says: (11:19:16 PM) so I saw the richard dawkins lecture. william says: (11:19:25 PM) it was superb, he talked some quantum physics. william says: (11:19:41 PM) he talked a lot about the mind. +++ magnanimous says: (11:19:50 PM) nice.1 +++ magnanimous says: (11:20:08 PM) do you want to know the amazing thing aoubt quantum physics? +++ magnanimous says: (11:20:15 PM) it is the answer to what the will is. william says: (11:21:45 PM) how so. +++ magnanimous says: (11:22:52 PM) quantum particles like a photon. +++ magnanimous says: (11:23:09 PM) when isolated into singularity.... +++ magnanimous says: (11:24:03 PM) and given two paths to move manage to be in two places at once... left and right... up and down... right and wrong... here or there... now or when ... now then .... existance non existance... william says: (11:24:47 PM) hmmm +++ magnanimous says: (11:24:54 PM) we are just quantum machines trying to hold on to our wills, and asert our existnce when in reality there is no choice ... not even a choice to be made because we are in two places at once ... existance and not exitance. william says: (11:25:08 PM) hmmm william says: (11:25:18 PM)

areyou talking many worlds? +++ magnanimous says: (11:26:53 PM) same with the fact that they can commuincate with each other instantaniousky ( aka faster than light {ps so called proven that einstien concluded that nothing could travel faster than light })also suggests that there is no division and that its all interconnected... not even innerconnected because if its one then there is no need to connect different parties... but at the same time the opposite is +++ magnanimous says: (11:26:54 PM) also true william says: (11:27:48 PM) its very fascinating. william says: (11:28:00 PM) what about wormholes. +++ magnanimous says: (11:28:35 PM) jsut instantianious travel on a "larger scale" +++ magnanimous says: (11:28:40 PM) we are nothing but informtaion... +++ magnanimous says: (11:29:11 PM) from one quantum particle to anouther... if we believed we could effectivly communicate with out msn I think it necessarly follows. william says: (11:29:31 PM) all true. william says: (11:29:36 PM) but fucked. william says: (11:30:02 PM) riddle me this, if you are moving at the speed of light or near it whatever, and fired a beam of light, wouldnt it be moving twice the speed? william says: (11:30:42 PM) hihihi +++ magnanimous says: (11:30:54 PM) hmmm good question one sec

+++ magnanimous says: (11:31:08 PM) if you yourself fired it? +++ magnanimous says: (11:31:15 PM) while travelling at the speed of light? william says: (11:31:23 PM) yes, in the same direction. william says: (11:31:27 PM) as movement. +++ magnanimous says: (11:31:51 PM) i think so... if we believe it would it would. +++ magnanimous says: (11:32:04 PM) we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is realy. william says: (11:32:19 PM) perhaps. william says: (11:32:21 PM) listen to this william says: (11:32:28 PM) we never experience the present, only past. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:32:37 PM) past doesnt exist. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:32:43 PM) its all in your head. william says: (11:32:43 PM) we are living in it. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:32:52 PM) its all in your sences more accuratly william says: (11:32:55 PM) see this is what I said a while ago. william says: (11:33:00 PM)

our minds change reality. william says: (11:33:12 PM) and by me i mean waking life. william says: (11:33:27 PM) buddy at the pinball machine at the end, it was linklater wasnt it? +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:34:01 PM) because it is true we in the typical definion for the word "Live" in the past but living is only a concept which exists in the past... but concept is only a concept and the concept of a concept is nothing but an illusin... and for this reason existance is empossible. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:34:09 PM) FACK@ +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:34:20 PM) We talked aobut that tointie at my house for a second its was nuts. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:34:27 PM) It brought back so much more redicilous thoughts. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:34:49 PM) I hear pHillip k dicks books are the most amazing things youl eve really... prisoin planet written 20 years ago. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:34:55 PM) the future written 20 years ago. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:35:01 PM) its uncanny. william says: (11:35:18 PM) oh my +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:35:23 PM) talking to you wiliam gets my mind giong on overdrive some times.

william says: (11:36:30 PM) it certainly does. william says: (11:36:35 PM) Ill take that as a compliment. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:36:41 PM) catalyst. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:36:49 PM) ps do somthing about that msn name  +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:36:58 PM) jj . +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:37:09 PM) do what you belive... i still have to get used to this philosophy william says: (11:37:17 PM) I dunno. william says: (11:37:24 PM) it was necessary I feel. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:38:03 PM) what? william says: (11:38:14 PM) this philosophy. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:38:29 PM) I just kinda spilled it oall out here. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:38:33 PM) can you do me a favor? william says: (11:38:39 PM) probably.

+++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:38:51 PM) print it out if you ahve a printer... just incase I loose it. william says: (11:39:15 PM) I dont. william says: (11:39:20 PM) you can save convos though. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:39:31 PM) ok yea I'm good nm +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:39:31 PM) hahah william says: (11:39:38 PM) good ol cole william says: (11:39:43 PM) do you write. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:39:51 PM) mmm I used to write propetual. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:39:58 PM) pen name propetual icarus. william says: (11:40:07 PM) I like I like +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:40:14 PM) or various pre words or prior words +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:40:20 PM) I have some of my stuff online if you would like to ready. william says: (11:40:33 PM) right now im doing math, but another time most certainly.

+++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:40:40 PM) /ill give you the linkds. william says: (11:40:45 PM) who was playing the pinball machine though, he had some good things to say +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:40:56 PM) Phillip K Dick. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:41:08 PM) But he just wrote the Book of .... FCAK i cant remember it +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:41:12 PM) http://www.flickr.com/photos/60127787@N00/ william says: (11:41:22 PM) wiki? +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:41:57 PM) Book of Acts. william says: (11:42:06 PM) hmmm +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:42:17 PM) I'm ggoing to try to perform my music now. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:42:22 PM) well speak my words. william says: (11:42:28 PM) what do you play +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:42:48 PM) well attempt to master the preciese verbal exicution that poetics require.

william says: (11:43:18 PM) they most certainly do. william says: (11:44:15 PM) education isnt necessarily a bad thing. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:44:44 PM) all you ahve to do is read to have a good vocabulary. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:45:34 PM) and once you have a good cocabulary you are better able to understand because for the ones who use them rely on them for their connection and attempt to understand and relate to the artificial divisions we employ, william says: (11:45:48 PM) this is all true. william says: (11:45:53 PM) but was school really that bad? +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:46:05 PM) I fucking hated it william. william says: (11:46:10 PM) an arts college or something isnt a bad idea, i keep forgetting to ask about it. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:46:21 PM) I loved the people I met... but other than that... its shite. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:46:27 PM) paying for beliefs. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:46:39 PM) you can pay alot less and learn alot more if you just ready. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:46:52 PM) or create for that matter... get to know yourslef better.

+++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:47:43 PM) because Ile every thing there are always two choices 9when existing.... +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:47:52 PM) or two appearences of choice... +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:48:55 PM) so you can look at yourself and seee evetyhing else or vice versa... but i think many are not intune with themselves to even attempt macro ideals... but like a hologram every precieved individual contains the contents of the whole. william says: (11:49:27 PM) true, but you need the right instrument to retrieve the contents. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:49:59 PM) no instrument necessary the instruemnt is the answer. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:50:04 PM) the answer is the instrument. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:50:25 PM) the answer is the answer. william says: (11:50:36 PM) the instrument is the instrument/ william says: (11:50:40 PM) ? +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:51:06 PM) but at the same time its not because both are concepts and neither then exist. william says: (11:51:48 PM) i find this concept hard to grasp. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:52:30 PM)

there is no grasping. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:52:39 PM) you cant hold on to it bceause it doesnt exist. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:54:08 PM) but you can beceaues you belive it is so and you belive you exist so you do ... and the world is how it is because you believe its is s0 do... william says: (11:54:38 PM) so the real question here. william says: (11:54:45 PM) what does a mind without filtering see. william says: (11:54:51 PM) ie, we need some mescaline. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:55:20 PM) That would be amazing. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:55:27 PM) but im unsure whether Iwould do it. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:55:40 PM) because there are two things that i beilve will happen. +++ magnanimous - we only exist as we do because we believed that the past is real says: (11:56:00 PM) well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will. william says: (11:56:26 PM) whats that. william says: (11:56:32 PM) I wouldnt do it because im not ready for reality. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (11:56:47 PM) or more illusion...

+++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (11:57:38 PM) william do you think anything is more rediciolous than being able to have existance and nonexistance at the same time william says: (11:58:25 PM) id have to sleep on that one. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (11:58:45 PM) no sleep necessary. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (11:58:49 PM) its all in your head. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (11:59:08 PM) but who the fuck am i to say any of these things. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (11:59:13 PM) nothing exists for me to claim. william says: (11:59:32 PM) nothing doesnt exist for you not to claim. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (11:59:55 PM) exactlly so I cant speak with out being wrong. william says: (12:00:36 AM) insanity. william says: (12:00:40 AM) and sanity, at same time. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:00:53 AM) everything at the same time. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:00:54 AM) and nothing. william says: (12:01:06 AM)

our minds cant comprehend non existance. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:01:15 AM) because we cant. william says: (12:01:17 AM) is the moral of the story. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:01:18 AM) becase it doesnt exist. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:01:26 AM) nonexistance doesnt exist. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:01:35 AM) how can we comprehend somthing that doesnt exist. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:01:43 AM) there fore how can you comprehend andything. william says: (12:02:15 AM) you cant. william says: (12:02:20 AM) and can william says: (12:03:03 AM) dawkins was talking about how our minds see a rock as solid, when in reality its mostly empty space. william says: (12:03:08 AM) i would love to see the rock for what it is. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:03:19 AM) you wouldn be avle to see it. william says: (12:03:26 AM) if we saw stuff for what it is, we wouldnt be able to function as survival machines.

+++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:03:42 AM) wel would not exist ... because we only exst in this existance. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:03:48 AM) which is pretty fucking amazing. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:03:58 AM) we are somthing among utter propetual nothingess. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:04:09 AM) that is fucked up... william says: (12:04:43 AM) we are also nothingness. william says: (12:04:46 AM) WE ARE MADE OF NOTHING +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:04:53 AM) but we think we are... +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:05:02 AM) and what is think.. .if we arnt doing it... +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:05:27 AM) both exisatnce and non existance exist ta tthe same time... tehir for there is no right and wrong because they exist togeater in every situation. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:05:37 AM) wholly fudge william. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:05:46 AM) I'm not sure how this could be argued against. william says: (12:06:02 AM) wrongly

+++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:06:12 AM) what do you mean? +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:06:27 AM) IU am lieing becaise the opposite of my argument is also true. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:07:28 AM) but true doesnt exist so i cant claim it to be so... but the pervious statment was just that a statement ... thus stating to be true aka exist but nier are thre william says: (12:07:30 AM) too paradoxic for me. +++ magnanimous - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:07:45 AM) the further you fall into the paradox the more apparent things become. william says: (12:10:14 AM) apparently. william says: (12:10:25 AM) anyways I must go to bed, i have to go to class every once in a while. william says: (12:10:33 AM) Ill talk to you later william says: (12:10:36 AM) PS get to montreal. +++ paradoxicarus - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:10:45 AM) eee... ok ill talk to you tommorrow probalby... im at work. +++ paradoxicarus - well there are infinite things that could happen but only one that will... says: (12:10:54 AM) and you are coming back to hali for christmas right? william says: (12:11:09 AM) but of course william says: (12:11:11 AM) TTYT