Clarifications on the Bill in Rajya Sabha “Institute of Technology (Amendment) Bill 2011” Objections/Questions Rejoinder/ clarifications (Raised

by some groups) No committee has ever (i)Prof. S.K. Joshi committee identified 7 old Institutes recommended for conversion (including IT-BHU on top) for upgradation to IIT. of IT-BHU to an IIT. Then why it was done? (ii) Prof Anandakrishnan Committee subsequently studied in detail and shortlisted 5 institutes (including IT-BHU) to be What minister has told in the transformed to IIT-like (comparable to IIT) i.e IIEST by Act LOK SABHA is factually of Parliament. incorrect. (iii) MHRD, realizing the inherent potential of IT-BHU, decided in X1th plan to convert IT-BHU to IIT along with other new IITs under XIth plan. (iv)While answering questions raised on this Bill in the Lok Sabha the HRM inadvertently mentioned about recommendation of conversion of IT-BHU by Prof. S. K. Joshi Committee Report. What he actually meant and what is actually recorded in all MHRD documents was as mentioned above in (i), (ii) and (iii). The decision of conversion was based on the positive inputs from the above committees and the intention of the University. Therefore intention of HRM was not to mislead the house for undue justification. This is correctly recorded in the report of planning commission and Ministry of Finance (EFC). Why only IT-BHU? What Out of 5 institutes, the Govt. found only one institute, i.e. ITabout other Institutes? BHU as a part of Central Govt. Institutes. After an initial proposal from BHU-VC (Feb. 2008), the Govt finally decided to upgrade IT-BHU under IIT Act. Among other Institutes, except Bengal Engineering & Science University (BESU) W.B., no one was willing for the IIEST status. The IIEST status for BESU is being processed under NIT Act (Schedule C). Again it should be noted that institutes under NITs are slightly below the benchmark of IITs. In that sense, IT-BHU has got better status compared to that of BESU. This is mainly because the admission of IT-BHU is from all India level IIT-JEE. None of the institutes examined by the


committee have the admission through All India IIT-JEE. Why Govt did not take up After analyzing the quality and constraints, Anandakrishnan Engg. Institute of AMU for Committee did not short list AMU Engg. Institute and JU conversion? (W.B) for transformation to IIT-like institute (i.e. IIEST). Hence the question does not arise to take up AMU Engg Institute. There is a 50% quota for Muslim students under minority clause in AMU. Besides wards of employees studying in schools in AMU campus get preference over others on top of 50% already reserved. This they did not want to give up. Does the Govt intend to destroy BHU and to bifurcate BHU by converting IT-BHU to IIT-BHU? No, “Bifurcation” is the brain child of counted few retired Professors of other faculties who derive pleasure in often opposing any good cause. Thus “Bifurcation” word has been overused and unnecessarily over emphasized to mislead the people. Govt is always concerned with image and objectives of BHU as envisaged by Mahamana. HRM has assured the house regarding it. There will not be any bifurcation or separation or creating high rise wall. Only there will be internal change in the Governance system. However, BHU will still retain substantial control over the Governance of IIT-BHU permanently. In fact, the Govt announced in March 2008 its intention of converting it along with other new IITs only after having a positive response from VC of BHU (Feb.2008). Some people doubt that the present Govt is not working for the interest of Hindu culture or Hindu philosophy or Hindu University. Is it true? No , Govt has acted purely on the merit basis. If the resistance or any other suggestions from the University would have been provided, the Govt would not have proceeded further. Regarding the interest of Hindu culture or philosophy or Hindu University the govt did not show any intention working against it. This is again malafide intention of some counted people with vested interests to create confusion. The conversion of IT-BHU to IIT-BHU will not cause any dilution in the culture and heritage of BHU as envisaged by Mahamana. On the contrary, since IT-BHU has grown up as an integral part of BHU, its conversion to IIT-BHU will give us a unique IIT, which will not only maintain but also carry forward the legacy and vision of the great Mahamana.

What way Hindu University or the idea of Hindu culture or philosophy will be flourished if the conversion is accepted.

Is it not possible to grant the No, legally it is not possible. If the IIT-status is granted and status of IT-BHU to IIT and it is integrated with IIT system then it has to be governed to be under governance of under IIT Act. BHU? The people who are raising objections know very well that legally it is not possible. Therefore to insist on this issue means to stop IIT formation. If IT-BHU is converted to IIT No, after conversion it will be an integral part of BHU as it (BHU), it means it is will remain in BHU Campus and share all the values and separated from BHU. Is it ethics of Mahamana, with purposeful coexistence. not? The only difference will be that it will be governed by IIT Act. This is just a mechanism for giving full autonomy like any other IIT so that it can excel to greater levels. Is it true that the teachers are No, the salary difference after implementation of the 6th pay interested for the conversion commission is very insignificant, except at entry level. for higher salary only? However, the entry level qualification requirement is also higher and more stringent compared to present system. For Associate Professor and Professor level, the salary is in the same pay band 4 with little difference. If not the salary then why Teachers are interested mainly for the following reasons: teachers are also interested for (i) The quality of the students will be better and the IIT? continued slipping down of IT-BHU with newer IITs and NITs can stop. Many teachers feel that the slow death of a pioneering Engineering college of Mahamana is taking place. In order to stop this they have raised the voice along with Alumni, students and well wishers. The petitions are well recorded on the internet. (ii) If the conversion takes place, then the students and teachers of high caliber will be getting attracted to come here and it will make a truly great seat of learning. (iii) The number of research fellowships and post-doctoral fellowships will be more. At present we have less than 100 fellowships for research scholars. So there will be a chance to do to good research. (iv) Just to give an example, the travel and funding for

research support for the Faculty is meager. No faculty gets full support for attending any Int. conf. After the conversion, the faculty will get this facility as available in other IITs as well as the flexibility in governance and administration like IIT. (v) Teachers see that this will be a golden opportunity to revive this institute from its death bed. This is the main motivation. Why the students are Actually this conversion will greatly help the students, our interested for the conversion? future generation. Our students get admission only through All India level IIT-JEE entrance exam (since 1972) which selects high caliber students from all over the country. However they do not get IIT degree. As a result in many places they are in disadvantageous position like placement, scope for higher studies etc. Many students after the announcement of the conversion of IT-BHU to an IIT (2008 July onwards), decided and preferred to join IT-BHU instead of other new IITs. In fact in the classification of category of technical students, in many places it says that (i) IITs, (ii) NITs and (iii) others. Presently, our students are classified under category of ‘others’ without the proper recognition which they deserve even otherwise, which is really a very very pathetic situation for them. This kind of classification is highly demoralizing for students. The students and huge base of alumni will get a chance to prove to the World that they are no less than IIT students. These students who joined after 2008 will be really upset and demoralized if the conversion issue is not settled. Two batches of students (more than 2000) who are anxiously waiting for their degrees. After the conversion, due to enhanced funding available, the laboratory practical and other project work/ research will be done at high standards. Many research fellowships would be available for research scholars providing more avenues to excel.


In the bill, it is mentioned that movable and immovable properties will be transferred to IIT-BHU. Does it not mean that BHU is divided?

Actually, it means that the responsibility of the movable and immovable properties pertaining to IT-BHU will go to IITBHU. After all, these assets belong to Central Govt. Only the institutions created by different Acts are the care-takers of them. This is just legal mechanism to reassure the responsibility. It will very much remain in BHU campus. It was also clarified by MHRD. Therefore this clause should not be misinterpreted that lands and assets of BHU are taken away by IIT (BHU). It should be clear that it is a transformation. Some changes in legal mechanism so that both the institutes can function efficiently and reap the benefits from each other. It precisely means whatever is with IT-BHU will be construed to be of IITBHU.

Many fear that having an IIT in the campus it will create a tension/dispute over lands and assets. Is it true?

The fear is imaginary. Actually there will not be any change before and after the transformation. It should be kept in mind that VC will always have a control over IIT. There is a proposal to constitute joint committee to monitor the transformation. Therefore, no such fear is anticipated. Not immediately. It will continue till the statutes for IITBHU by MHRD is prepared. However, the statutes of IITKanpur will be a guideline to be followed for temporary period. EC and AC will work for IIT-BHU till BOG and Senate as per IIT Act are formed. There shall always be representation of BHU even with new BOG and Senate. Yes. That is agreed. The Govt. announced its decision of creating several new IITs and NITs and central universities before the report of Yashpal committee. However, even after conversion, IIT (BHU) will remain embedded in the University atmosphere. The students can take advantages of other science, humanities and social science departments. Thus IIT (BHU) will not be training the students in isolation. Therefore it will rather be more consistent with Yashpal committee report. This is the unique advantage of IIT (BHU) as it will be housed in BHU campus. Unlike other IITs which are expanding their base and creating new faculties, IIT-BHU will have the unique advantage of a readymade University environment for

Is it true that Executive council and Academic council of BHU will cease to function after the conversion and IITKanpur Statutes will be followed? Is it true that Yashpal committee has recommended to strengthen the University system and the professional course should not be taught in isolation. Then why to transform IT-BHU to IIT?

teaching other disciplines. Therefore, this bill is not against the spirit of Higher Education in any sense. VC of BHU and other two members nominated by EC will be in BOG of IIT BHU. What purpose does it serve? VC of BHU will be the Chairman of BOG for initially three years, after that he will be Vice-Chairman. In addition, two more members nominated by EC, BHU will be in BOG: it means that nearly 1/4th members are from BHU. BHU will have permanently a say on the policy/ governance of IITBHU. Co-existence/co-enrichment will be thus institutionalized. Further, there is no embargo that VC of BHU cannot be Chairman in future. Therefore the relationship will be always maintained. IT-BHU was making an attempt for up-gradation since 1972 after its very inception, when they decided to take students through IIT-JEE exam. And now after 40 years, Govt is giving an opportunity to grant the status. Similarly, if any other institute gets the status, they may be given with proper linkages and suitable control of BHU. However, the formation of IIT (BHU) will be a first experiment in this direction. From the experiences we will be able to understand the subsequent steps. But due to imaginary fear what will happen to other Institutes, we should not stop this bill to deprive IT-BHU to get its long overdue status and to grow further. BHU has always been a forward-looking Institute and it can create many more institutes as well. Recently, Institute of Environmental studies has been created on its campus. So the task and activity of the BHU will not reduce. But just to retain under its full control and not to allow to IT-BHU to grow further will not be proper. BHU is Institute of National importance (INI). Therefore nobody can make any change. Is the amendment of BHU Act 1915 required? That is not true. Parliament has power to amend it in public interest. No, The amendment of BHU Act is not required at all as ITBHU was created in 1971 only by the Statutes of BHU. Therefore, the amendment (repealing) of the statutes can be done through the recommendation of EC and approval of President of India as a visitor of BHU, which has been verified by Law Ministry.

Many fear that if the formation of IIT (BHU) is allowed then other Institutes will also try the same way.

By creating IIT-BHU, how The vision and mission of Mahamana was to promote the the vision and mission of scientific, technical and artistic education in BHU and to Mahamana is preserved? develop quality manpower for Nation Building. By having an IIT in the campus his vision will rather be really fulfilled as it will be able to produce world class technical manpower required for the country along with having a Hindu philosophy/culture imbibed in their attitude. It seems there is no reservation in IITs. After the conversion, IIT (BHU) like other IITs will not give reservation. Is it possible to convert whole University as IISc, Bangalore? This is an incorrect statement that IITs do not have reservation policy. It is very much in place. Therefore, IT (BHU) after conversion will follow the same policy and it may be a role model for other IITs. No, This is a very impractical suggestion. Moreover, the Govt will not agree with this proposal as it requires more funding as well as time to evaluate the potential. Therefore to insist along this line means we will lose an opportunity of having an IIT. It is not feasible, as in every state there is only one IIT. UP has already an IIT in Kanpur. The Govt will not open a new IIT in Barkachha, Mirzapur. The shifting of IT-BHU to Barkaccha is also not possible. It means that IT-BHU will lose all synergetic benefit while remaining in BHU campus. Through this bill the Govt wishes to upgrade IT-BHU by converting to an IIT which will be in BHU campus, with purposeful coexistence. This will also defeat the basic purpose of the Govt. of having an IIT at minimal expenditure. If this bill is stopped then IT-BHU will remain in its original status and will not be able to compete with IITs and NITs (the total number is going to be 50). The decay in terms of quality of students, teachers, education, research and any other technological collaboration will take place. And we all have to witness the death of the Pioneering Engineering Institute as it is already starving for a long time. BHU will lose a golden opportunity to revive a dying Institute and to spread the message of the glorious and

Some suggestions that instead of conversion a new IIT in Barkaccha Campus or shifting IT-BHU there as per one of the old EC resolution (Feb 2009).

In short tell us what will happen if this bill for converting IT-BHU to IIT (BHU) is stopped due to reservation issue and bifurcation of BHU.

traditional values of Hindu University nationally and internationally, as envisaged by Mahamana. Purvanchal will be deprived of an IIT forever. The region or zone nearer to BHU in UP will lose the industrial and technological support which would have been otherwise possible if this bill be passed.

What will happen as a gain or The BHU will send a strong positive message that it is a benefit to BHU if this bill is forward looking Hindu University which is proud of giving supported? an IIT to the country and houses it in the campus. IT-BHU will revive and compete with top ranking institutes in the world. It will make really a great seat of learning as envisaged by Mahamana. Other faculties and department of BHU will get an opportunity to get a free access to the sophisticated equipment and facilities. Even teachers and personnel from Industries can also make use of facilities. The joint academic programmes for the benefit of students can run in the campus, as the credit transfer can be accepted by both BHU and IIT. There will be a joint collaboration on research projects, conferences, workshops and short term courses for the industrial personnel as well as the teachers of other Engineering colleges of Purvanchal and nearby regions. Purvanchal and nearby regions will be technologically benefitted. The industries and local engineering Institutes in the state will also be benefitted. That is responsibility of any IIT, as inbuilt in the Bill, whenever it is formed. The campus of IIT (BHU) can be opened up elsewhere in the country as well as abroad being envisaged in further amendment of IIT Act. This will give an opportunity to IIT (BHU) to spread the name and message of Mahamana. There will an all-round development in Varanasi in particular and Purvanchal in general.
In view of the above clarifications/responses we would like to request you to strongly support the Bill : Institutes of Technology (Amendment) Bill 2011 in Rajya Sabha.
Teachers, Students, Alumni and Staff of IT-BHU, Varanasi.


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