Mar 26
Google Employee 1:
I get that they were trying to ensure diversity of political thought, but including the president of The Heritage Foundation is a bit extremeMar 26
Google Employee 2:
! bit" It#s not only problematic for its anti$%&T' positions (emember the role it played in pushing for murderous foreign policy )*icaragua, +ambodia, !ngola, I#m forgetting a lot, I bet, but also its positions on climate change )they don#t really believe it#s real, healthcare )sic- poor people better croa- sorry I mean they better sign up for a mar-etbased solution to healthcare, immigration reform )not for it I#m probably forgetting a bunch of stuff Mar 26
Google Employee 3:
&it of a tangent, but Heritage was not always as extreme as they are now !n example of how far rightward the .verton window has shifted/ 0.bamaromneycare0 was their idea *ow they#re against it as too liberalMar 26
Google Employee 4:
I love how they introduce her extensive professional experience, and then at the bottom,1most importantly0, wife and mother )""resident of The Heritage Foundation included on the !dvanced Technology 3xternal !dvisory +ouncil 4 %oogle %roupshttps/55groupsgooglecom5a5googlecom5forum5m57topic5transparency4and4ethics5mm-(ygI89yc25In all seriousness though, :ames# inclusion on the council is either horribly negligent or outright malicious *othing the heritage foundation recommends should have any place in policy we should endorseMar 26
Google Employee 1:
8ow I didn#t notice that I wonder if the members wrote their own biosMar 26
Google Employee 5:
This is a group of advisors, not a social club Hopefully we are never in the position where we need advice on pros and cons of anti $%&T' !I .n the other hand, we will be approached to do various military 5 law enforcement pro;ects and want to have a good understanding of point of view of people who might approach us However, I thin- eter %oettler should also be invited to give an earful of all the ways we should *.T allow technology to be used for war and mass surveillance Mar 26
Google Employee 6:
I see no problem, it isn#t li-e she is surrounded with li-e minded individuals I thin- having this diverse a board, even with someone who#s view point is dramatically different from yours or mine, is an overall winresident of The Heritage Foundation included on the !dvanced Technology 3xternal !dvisory +ouncil 4 %oogle %roupshttps/55groupsgooglecom5a5googlecom5forum5m57topic5transparency4and4ethics5mm-(ygI89yc<5Mar 26
Google Employee 2:
Google Employee 5 wrote: This is a group of advisors, not a social club. Hopefully we are never in the position where we need advice on pros and cons of anti LGT! "#. $n the other hand, we will be approached to do various military % law enforcement pro&ects and want to have a good understanding of point of view of people who might approach us.
8e already are in the situation where )for example trans and gender nonconforming people have a terrible time getting through airport #security# The ma-eup of the panel ma-es it sound to me li-e we#ll be selling to military and $3!s, so we will indeed soon be in the position where we need advice on topics that the Heritage Foundation is ama=ingly wrong onMar 26
Google Employee 5:
I thin- irrelevant personal nitpic-ing should be deemphasi=ed I get it that most fol-s here, including myself, don>t agree with her views &ut the ?uestion should really be 1does she or does she not have something to say on military5law enforcementuse of !I that we might find valuable in our decision ma-ing"@ Aince most people who approach us with pro;ect will be neocons )from both sides of political spectrum, it might be valuable to hear neocon perspective on these matters $i-e there are things that we might thin- of as the same, which are actually different &esides/
B(emember this"2 ersonally I would put 1mostly importantly, husband and parent@ in my autobiography,what>s so wrong with that" If I had to do something different for a living to better support my family, I am sure they would be someone else to do my ;ob, while finding an e?uivalent replacement for my family would be much more problematic 8hy is it so wrong"Mar 26
Google Employee 5:
!gain, we need to understand motivations for current design of airport security and why,according to its proponents, our alternative solutions are seen as unacceptable If someone is willing to confidentially discuss their perspectives with us, it>s better than having to directly ta-e our arguments to Ateve CingMar 26
Google Employee 7:
Google Employee ' wrote: # see no problem, it isn(t li)e she is surrounded with li)e minded individuals. # thin) having this diverse a board, even with someone who(s view point is dramatically different from yours or mine, is an overall win.
This is essentially the paradox of tolerance/ Tolerating diverse viewpoints is extremely important, but that tolerance stops at viewpoints that are themselves intolerant .therwise that tolerance is undermined The Heritage Foundation has a broad platform, with viewpoints on many things I disagree strongly on virtually every perspective of theirs that I#ve seen, but many of those would still be valuable to have in the discussionHowever, their perspective on $%&T' peoples is one of intolerance Having that in the discussion is not representative of tolerance, but in fact antithetical to it !nd as such, I#m very much against including themMar 26
Google Employee 8:
Employee * wrote: This is essentially the parado+ of tolerance: Tolerating diverse viewpoints is e+tremely important, but that tolerance stops at viewpoints that are themselves intolerant. $therwise that tolerance is undermined.
The paradox of tolerance, so stated, begs the ?uestion of what constitutes toleranceIn cases where one needs to establish a forum of those who already agree on a definition, and are willing to do without the participation of those they deem intolerant, this is fine