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PIPING ENGINEERING

INTRODUCTION TO
PROPOSAL ENGINEERING
PIPING ENGINEERING

WHAT IS A PROPOSAL?

IT IS A BID FOR A JOB.


IT CONSISTS OF:
 TECHNICAL PROPOSAL &
 COMMERCIAL PROPOSAL
PIPING ENGINEERING

 TECHNICAL PROPOSAL

- REVIEW OF TENDER DOCUMENTS AND SPECIFICATIONS


- DEFINE AND IDENTIFY SCOPE OF WORK
- GENERATE TENDER QUERIES TO OBTAIN
CLARIFICATIONS FROM CLIENT
- OPTIMISE LAYOUTS AND SPECIFICATIONS WHEREVER
POSSIBLE
- LIST ASSUMPTIONS, DEVIATIONS & EXCEPTIONS
PIPING ENGINEERING

 COMMERCIAL PROPOSAL

DETERMINE THE COST OF THE PROJECT


- MATERIAL COST
- CONSTRUCTION COST
- ENGINEERING COST
PIPING ENGINEERING

 MATERIAL COST

INFORMATION/DATA REQUIRED FOR WORKING OUT THE


MATERIAL COST:
PIPING ENGINEERING

 MATERIAL COST

INFORMATION/DATA REQUIRED FOR WORKING OUT THE


MATERIAL COST:
- BILL OF MATERIALS
- UNIT PRICES OF MATERIALS
PIPING ENGINEERING

 BILL OF MATERIALS (BOM)


- IT IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ACTIVITY IN A
PROPOSAL
- ACCURACY OF THE MATERIAL COST DEPENDS UPON THE
ACCURACY OF THE BOM
PIPING ENGINEERING

 ACCURACY OF THE BOM DEPENDS UPON

- THE ACCURACY OF THE INPUT DOCUMENTS


- SKILL OF THE ESTIMATOR
PIPING ENGINEERING

 INPUT DOCUMENTS

- PIPING SPECIFICATIONS
- PLOT PLANS
- P & IDs
- PIPING LAYOUTS (IF AVAILABLE)
PIPING ENGINEERING

 ACCURACY OF INPUT DOCUMENTS

- VARIES FROM ONE PROPOSAL TO ANOTHER


- CAN BE VERY DETAILED AND COMPREHENSIVE OR
- CAN BE VERY SKETCHY AND WITH MUCH MISSING
DATA
PIPING ENGINEERING

 WORKING WITH THE INPUT DOCUMENTS


- ENGINEERING SKILLS ARE REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY THE
MISSING OR INACCURATE DATA

 AFTER IDENTIFICATION
- RAISE TECHNICAL QUERIES TO THE CLIENT
- REQUEST RELEVANT DETAILS FROM OTHER
DISCIPLINES
- MAKE LOGICAL ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON SOUND
ENGINEERING PRACTICE
PIPING ENGINEERING

 PLOT PLANS

THE TENDER DOCUMENT MAY CONTAIN


- FAIRLY DETAILED PLOT PLANS OR
- VERY ROUGH PLOT PLANS OR
- NO PLOT PLANS AT ALL
PIPING ENGINEERING

 PLOT PLANS

- DEVELOPMENT OF PLOT PLANS IS AN IMPORTANT


ACTIVITY
- IT IS AN INPUT TO OTHER DISCIPLINES
PIPING ENGINEERING

 PLOT PLANS SHOULD CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING MINIMUM BASIC


INFORMATION:

- LOCATION OF ALL EQUIPMENTS


- LAYOUT OF MAJOR PIPE RACKS & SLEEPERS
- GRADE ELEVATIONS AS DETERMINED BY CIVIL
- PAVED AREAS AND BUNDED AREAS
- MAJOR PLATFORMS AND STRUCTURES
- LAYOUT OF ROADS
- COMPLY WITH SAFETY REQUIREMENTS
- LAYOUT SHOULD BE OPTIMISED
PIPING ENGINEERING

 EXAMPLE OF AN OVERALL PLOT PLAN


PIPING ENGINEERING

 EXAMPLE OF A UNIT PLOT PLAN


PIPING ENGINEERING

 WORKING OUT THE MTO WITH P&IDs

THE MTO OF FOLLOWING ITEMS IS DONE DIRECTLY FROM


THE P&IDs
- VALVES
- FLANGES
- FITTINGS (EXCEPT ELBOWS)
- SPECIAL ITEMS
PIPING ENGINEERING

WORKING OUT THE MTO WITH THE P&IDs


PIPING ENGINEERING

 WORKING OUT THE MTO WITH PLOT PLANS

THE MTO OF FOLLOWING ITEMS IS DONE FROM THE PLOT


PLANS
- PIPES
- ELBOWS
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 WORKING OUT THE MTO


WITH PLOT PLANS
PIPING ENGINEERING

MATERIAL COST

 OBTAIN PRICES FROM VENDORS


 USE IN-HOUSE DATA i.e. PRICES FROM PREVIOUS
PROJECTS
 ESTIMATE BASE ON TONNAGE, PERCENTAGES, ETC.
PIPING ENGINEERING

MATERIAL COST

OBTAINING PRICES FROM VENDORS

PROCEDURE IS SIMILAR TO THAT IN PROJECTS:

 ISSUE INQUIRY REQUISTIONS


 ISSUE TECHNICAL QUERIES (TQs), IF NECESSARY
 DO TECHNICAL EVALUATION
PIPING ENGINEERING

MATERIAL COST

 BID TABULATIONS BY PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT


(COMPARISION OF PRICES OF DIFFERENT BIDDERS)
PIPING ENGINEERING

MATERIAL COST

 USE THE LOWEST PRICES OF TECHNICALLY ACCEPTABLE


BIDS
 USE PRICES OF CLIENT APPROVED VENDORS
PIPING ENGINEERING

MATERIAL COST

USING IN-HOUSE DATA


CAUTION IS REQUIRED IS USING SUCH DATA SINCE

 THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE AVAILABLE DATA MAY NOT


EXACTLY MATCH THAT OF THE REQUIRED DATA
 PRICES MAY BE OUTDATED DUE TO ESCALATION
 AN ADJUSTMENT FACTOR (BASED ON JUDGEMENT) MAY
HAVE TO BE APPLIED TO TAKE CARE OF THE ABOVE
PIPING ENGINEERING

MATERIAL COST

THE PRICING OF SOME ITEMS IS ESTIMATED AS PERCENTAGES:

 BOLTS AND GASKETS (40% OF FLANGES)


 COMMISSIONING SPARES FOR VALVES (2~5% OF VALVES)
 CUTTING, WASTAGE AND EXPECTED GROWTH DURING
PROJECT EXECUTION (5~10 % OF PIPES, FITTINGS,
FLANGES AND VALVES)
 PIPE SUPPORTS (2.5% OF PIPES)
PIPING ENGINEERING

MATERIAL COST

ROUGH/PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATION


 THIS CAN BE DONE BASED ON TONNAGE
 E.g. IF THE TOTAL WEIGTH OF CS PIPES IS 100 TONS AND IS
THE COST IS 1500 USD/TON, THEN THE CS PIPE COST CAN
BE ESTIMATED TO BE 150,000 USD.
PIPING ENGINEERING

MATERIAL COST
A TYPICAL PIPING MATERIAL COST SUMMARY SHEET
PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION COST

 THE CONSTRUCTION BILL OF QUANTITIES (BOQs) IS


PREPARED AND ISSUED TO THE CONSTRUCTION SUB-
CONTRACTOR

 THE COST IS WORKED OUT BY THE SUB-CONTRACTOR


BASED ON THE BOQs
PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION BOQs

THE BOQs CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING DETAILS:

 NUMBER OF WELD JOINTS FOR EACH PIPE SIZE AND THICKNESS


 WELDING INCH-DIAMETERS (INCH-DIA)
 PIPE LENGTHS OF EACH SIZE TO BE ERECTED
 NUMBER OF WELD JOINTS TO BE RADIOGRAPHED
 NUMBER OF WELD JOINTS REQUIRING POST-WELD HEAT
TREATMENT (PWHT)
 PIPE LENGTHS OF EACH SIZE REQUIRING COATING & WRAPPING
FOR UNDERGROUND PROTECTION
 SURFACE AREA OF PIPING FOR PAINTING
 PIPE QUANTITIES OF EACH SIZE REQUIRING INSULATION OF
DIFFERENT THICKNESSES
PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION BOQs

QUANTIFICATION OF FABRICATION WORK

 NUMBER OF WELDING JOINTS


 INCH-DIAMETERS (INCH-DIA)
PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION BOQs

WHAT IS “INCH-DIA”?
PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION BOQs

CALCULATION OF INCH-DIA

 INCH-DIA = (NUMBER OF JOINTS) * (PIPE SIZE IN INCHES)


PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION BOQs

FIND OUT THE WELDING JOINTS


AND “INCH-DIA”
OF THESE ISOMETRICS
PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION BOQs
 BILL NO. 4
PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION BOQs
 BILL NO. 8
PIPING ENGINEERING

CONSTRUCTION BOQs
 BILL NO. 9
PIPING ENGINEERING

ENGINEERING COST

THIS IS BASED ON THE TOTAL MANHOURS THAT WILL BE

SPENT IN EXECUTING THE ENGINEERING OF THE PROJECT.


PIPING ENGINEERING

ESTIMATION OF ENGINEERING MANHOURS

THIS IS GENERALLY BASED ON


 NUMBER OF LINES IN THE P&IDs
 NUMBER OF TIE-INS
 NUMBER OF PIPING SPECIFICATIONS
 NUMBER OF DRAWINGS (PLOT PLANS, PIPING LAYOUTS,
ISOMETRICS) TO BE GENERATED
PIPING ENGINEERING

ESTIMATION OF ENGINEERING MANHOURS

 THE NUMBER OF DRAWINGS IS ESTIMATED BASED ON THE


PLOT AREA AND THE DRAWING SCALES TO BE FOLLOWED

 CERTAIN NORMS FOR UNIT MANHOURS HAVE BEEN


DEVELOPED BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE
PIPING ENGINEERING

 ESTIMATION OF THE NUMBER OF PIPING LAYOUTS


PIPING ENGINEERING

ESTIMATION OF ENGINEERING MANHOURS

SAMPLE
ENGINEERING
MANHOURS
ESTIMATION
SHEET
PIPING ENGINEERING

INPUT TO OTHER DISCIPLINES

 PIPING IS RESPONSIBLE TO GIVE CORRECT AND RELIABLE


INPUT TO OTHER DISCIPLINES
PIPING ENGINEERING

INPUT TO OTHER DISCIPLINES


MAJOR INPUT TO CIVIL:
 PIPERACK/SLEEPER SIZES AND LOADING
 SPECIAL PIPE SUPPORTS
 OPERATING PLATFORMS AND CROSSOVERS
 PAVING REQUIEMENTS
 TANK BUND DETAILS
 PITS FOR UG VESSELS/VALVES/DRAINS, ETC.
 CULVERTS
PIPING ENGINEERING

INPUT TO OTHER DISCIPLINES


TYPICAL INPUT TO CIVIL:
PIPING ENGINEERING

INPUT FROM OTHER DISCIPLINES

MAJOR INPUT FROM PROCESS

 P & IDs
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RISKS IN A PROPOSAL

 WHAT ARE THE RISKS?


PIPING ENGINEERING

RISKS IN A PROPOSAL

 SCOPE OF WORK IS NOT WELL DEFINED


 SPECIFICATIONS ARE SKETCHY OR NOT THERE
 P&IDs ARE PRELIMINARY AND DO NOT COVER THE
COMPLETE SCOPE OF WORK
 SUFFICIENT DATA ON THE PLOT REGARDING SIZE AND
GRADE ELEVATIONS IS NOT AVAILABLE
 SUFFICIENT AND ACCURATE DATA OF EXISTING FACILITIES
IS NOT AVAILABLE
PIPING ENGINEERING

RISKS IN A PROPOSAL

WORK TOWARDS MITIGATING RISKS


 REQUEST AND GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE
FROM OTHER DISCIPLINES
 RAISE TENDER QUERIES FOR CLARIFICATION FROM THE
CLIENT
 INCLUDE ITEMS AS REQUIRED BY GOOD ENGINEERING
PRACTICE AND BASED ON PAST PROJECTS EVEN THOUGH
THEY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN THE ITB (e.g.
DRAIN SYSTEM, UTILITY STATIONS, etc.)
PIPING ENGINEERING

RISKS IN A PROPOSAL

AFTER TAKING ALL STEPS TOWARDS MITIGATING RISKS


PREPARE A LIST OF
 ASSUMPTIONS
 DEVIATIONS

IT WILL BE THE DECISION OF THE MANAGEMENT TO


 ABSORB THE RISK OR
 PRESENT IT TO THE CLIENT IN THE FORM OF
QUALIFICATIONS TO THE BID
PIPING ENGINEERING

THANK YOU

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