Revit Topography

Tips and Tricks
Revit Ìmplementation Group
·Ìmporting Data
·Modifying Toposurfaces
Emre Ozkan
Revit is a great tooI to create and modify
The Toposurface tool defines a
topographical surface (a toposurface) using
points. You can create toposurfaces in 3D
views or site plans.
Toposurfaces in Revit are simply faces.
Faces are infinitely thin. Faces are made up
of THREE points
Iways Check Site and Topography
VisibiIity Graphics and View Range
Triangulation edges. Triangulation edges for
toposurfaces are turned off by default. You
can turn them on by selecting them from the
Model Categories/Topography category in
the Visibility/Graphics dialog.
Revit 2009 Interface
2009 versus 2010
Creating a Toposurface from Imported 3D Data
You can automatically generate a toposurface based on 3D contour data
imported in DWG, DXF, or DGN formats. Revit Architecture analyzes the
3D contour data and places a series of elevation points along the contour
Make sure that your imported data information is on correct layers
All the lines, polylines those define an area surface shall form a closed
When you import data with the Current View Only option selected, you
cannot use the data to create a toposurface.
Current View Only
Ìmports a CAD drawing into the active Revit Architecture view only.
For example, you might want an AutoCAD 2009 object to appear only
in a Revit Architecture floor plan view and not in a 3D view. Ìf you set
this option, any text in the imported file is visible and can be cropped
by the crop region of the view. Ìf you are using worksharing, the import
will belong to a view workset. Ìf the option is not selected, only lines
and geometry are imported, and the import behaves like model
geometry: it can be cropped by the crop region of the view. This option
is not available in 3D views. Ìf you are using worksharing, the import
will belong to a model workset.
Note: Ìf you are importing data from a CAD file for use in creating a
toposurface, do not select this option.
Importing Options-Link
inks a CAD file instead of importing it. inking is similar to having an
xref in AutoCAD 2009. When the original linked file changes, these
changes are reflected (if possible) in the file when you reload the
project. See Ìmplications of Ìmporting vs. inking for Xrefs.
Importing Options-CoIor Management
Colors: Ìnvert inverts the colors of all line and text objects from the
imported file to Revit Architecture-specific colors. Dark colors become
lighter, and light colors become darker. This can improve readability
when the file is in Revit Architecture. This option is set by default
Preserve: Preserves the colors defined in the imported document.
Black and White: Ìmports the document in black and white.
Importing Options-Layers
All: Ìmports or links all layers. ayers that are non-visible in the link
are turned off in the current view in Revit Architecture.
Visible: Ìmports or links only visible layers
Specify Allows you to select the layers and levels to import or link (on
the dialog that displays). ayers not selected are deleted. Ìf you select
Visible or Specify and you are linking the file, when you later reload the
linked file, still only the selected or visible layers originally linked are
loaded. Any layers not selected or visible are not linked. Ìf you later
want omitted layers to be linked, you must delete the link and relink the
Tip: Ìf you want to be able to see and hide layers as needed, you can link to all layers, and
then click View menu Visibility/Graphics to control the visibility of different categories in a
view. (See Visibility and Graphic Display in Project Views.) Or you can link to all layers, and
then query the import and hide a selected layer in the active view. (See Querying Objects
in ayers.)
Importing Options-Import Units
Ìmport Units
Explicitly sets the unit of measure for imported geometry. The values are Auto-Detect, feet,
inch, meter, decimeter, centimeter, millimeter, and Custom factor. Ìf you specify Auto-
Detect for an AutoCAD 2009 file created in Ìmperial (English), then the file imports with feet
and inches as the units. Ìf the AutoCAD 2009 file was created in metric, then the file
imports into Revit Architecture with millimeters as the units.
For MicroStation® files, Revit Architecture reads the units from the file and uses them.
Feet, inches, meters, centimeters, decimeters, millimeters are all supported. Ìf the DGN file
has custom units, then the unit in Revit Architecture defaults to feet.
Note: Ìf you import a file into a project with opposing units (for example, a metric file into an Ìmperial
project), the units in the host project prevail. Ìf the imported file has a custom unit, select Custom factor for
Ìmport Units. This enables the text box adjacent to the selection list so that you can enter a scale value.
For example, the file has a unit called widget where one widget equals 10 meters. When
importing the file, select Custom factor for Ìmport Units and specify a value of 10 in the
adjacent text box. Each unit from the source file is now equal to 10 meters in the Revit
Architecture file.
The value you enter here displays in the Scale Factor type property of the import symbol.
Ìf the units are known, you can select Custom factor and enter a scale factor. This can
increase or decrease the size of the imported elements in Revit Architecture.
Importing Options- Positioning
Auto - Center to Center: Revit Architecture places the center of the import at the center of
the Revit Architecture model. The center of a Revit Architecture model is calculated by
finding the center of a bounding box around the Revit Architecture model.
Ìf most of the Revit Architecture model is not visible, this center point may not be visible in
the current view. To make the point visible in the current view, set the zoom to Zoom View
to Fit. This centers the view on the Revit Architecture model.
Auto - Origin to Origin Revit Architecture places the import's world origin at the Revit
Architecture project's internal origin. Ìf the import object has been drawn at a large distance
from its origin, it may display at a large distance from the Revit Architecture model. To test
this, set the zoom to Zoom View to Fit.
Auto - By Shared Coordinates Revit Architecture places the imported geometry according
to its location with respect to the shared coordinates between the 2 files. Ìf there is no
current shared coordinate system between the files, Revit Architecture notifies you, and
uses Auto - Center to Center positioning. See Shared Positioning.
NoteThis option is for Revit files only.
Manual - Origin The imported document's origin is centered on the cursor.
Manual - Base Point The imported document's base point is centered on the cursor. Use
this option only for AutoCAD 2009 files that have a defined base point.
Manual - CenterSets the cursor at the center of the imported geometry. You can drag the
imported geometry to its location.
Place at Select the level to place the origin/base point.
Orient to View Revit Architecture places the import at the same orientation as the current
view. This option is available only for non÷view-specific imports.
Revit 2010 Import RuIe
Check the DWG. There is something, could be a tiny line or a point or
something, out beyond the 2 mile limit. 2010 added this check to help
reduce problems associated with DWG imports which are very large.¨
The problem existed earlier, but Revit did not prevent you from importing it. That
tended to create problems in the Revit file, so now they block it.
Make sure the items in the Autocad file are drawn near the origin point (0,0,0).
There may be a stray object way off in the x, y or z direction, look from all
directions with all layers on/thawed. Ìt could even be an empty line of text. Try
flattening if it is a 3d Autocad file (after saving a copy!). Ì have had success also
by copying only the objects Ì wanted out of one Autocad file and pasting into a
clean one. And finally, in the worst case Ì've run into the problem was actually in a
block inside of the dwg. Once that block was deleted, the import worked fine.
Creating a Toposurface from a Points FiIe
You can automatically generate a toposurface based on a points file. A
points file is typically generated by a civil engineering software
application. The file provides contour data using a regularized grid of
elevation points.
The points file must contain x, y, and z coordinate numbers as the first
numeric values in the file. The file must also be in a comma-delimited
file format (a CSV or TXT file). Additional information in the file (such
as a point name) is ignored. Any additional numeric information for a
point must occur after the x, y, and z coordinate values. Ìf the file
contains 2 points with the same x and y coordinates, Revit Architecture
uses the point with the largest z value.
SimpIifying a Toposurface
Simplifying a surface can improve system performance, particularly
on surfaces with a large number of points.
Open the site plan view and select the toposurface.
On the Options Bar, click Edit.
On the Toposurface tab of the Design Bar, click Simplify Surface.
Enter a value for surface accuracy, and click OK.
On the Design Bar, click Finish Surface.
Toposurface subregions are areas that you sketch inside existing
toposurfaces. For example, you can use subregions to draw parking
lots on a graded surface, roads, or islands. Creating a subregion does
not result in separate surfaces. Ìt merely defines an area of the surface
where you can apply a different set of properties, such as material.
SpIitting a Toposurface
You can split a toposurface into 2 distinct surfaces and then edit those
surfaces independently. After splitting a surface, you can assign
different materials to these surfaces to depict roads, lakes, plazas, or
hills. You can also delete entire portions of the toposurface.
Merging Toposurfaces
You can merge 2 separate toposurfaces into one surface. This
command is useful after previously splitting the surface.
The surfaces to be merged must share a common edge or
Graded Regions
To create a graded region, you select a toposurface to modify. The
surface should be an existing surface in the current phase. Revit
Architecture marks the original surface as demolished and makes a
copy with a matching boundary. Revit Architecture marks the copy as
new in the current phase
Ìf you drag the new graded region, notice that the original remains.
Select the original and click (Element Properties). Notice that the
Phase Demolished property has the value of the current phase.
Site (BuiIding) Pads
You can add a building pad to a toposurface and then modify the pad's
structure and depth. You add a building pad by sketching a closed loop
on a toposurface. After sketching the pad, you can specify a value to
control the height offset from the level and other properties. You can
define openings in the pad by sketching closed loops inside the perimeter
of the building pad, and you can define a slope for the building pad.
Ìf you add a building pad to a graded surface, you will see cut and fill
reported separately for the pad and the toposurface in a topography
schedule. This is because the pad divides the graded surface into 2
surfaces: one is the surface under the pad (the graded surface), and one
is the surface that is not under the pad (the pad surface).
You should name both the graded surface and the pad surface in order to
distinguish them in your schedule.
Parking Components
Parking components are parking spaces that you can add to a
toposurface. After placing a parking component, you need to
define the toposurface as its host.
When you use the Pick Host command, you are deliberately
setting the parking component on top of the toposurface. Ìf you
move the parking component around on the toposurface, it
remains attached to the toposurface.
Site Components
Use the Site Component command to place site-
specific components (such as trees) into a site plan.
The Type Selector lists site-specific components to
choose from. Ìf no site components are loaded into
your project, an error message indicates that no
appropriate families are loaded
Creating Property Lines
with Survey Data
Open a site plan view.
Click Site menu Property ine, or on the Site tab of the Design Bar, click Property ine.
Ìn the Property ines Creation dialog, select Create Property ines by Table of Distances and Bearings, and click OK.
Ìn the Property ines dialog, click Ìnsert and add the distances and bearings from your survey data.
To describe a property line as an arc, do the following:
For Distance and Bearing, enter values that describe a line segment between 2 points on the arc.
For Type, select Arc.
For Radius, enter a value.
The radius value must be greater than half the length of the line segment. The larger the radius, the larger the circle becomes, resulting
in a flatter arc.
For /R, select if the arc appears to the left of the line segment. Select R if the arc appears to the right of the line segment.
Ìnsert additional lines as needed.
Click Up and Down to modify the order of the property lines.
Ìf the From ast to First Point value is not Closed, you can insert a new line or click Add ine to Close.
Click OK.
Note: Ìf you sketch an open loop and click OK, Revit Architecture issues a warning that it will not calculate the area. You can ignore the
warning to continue.
Ìn the drawing area, move the property lines to their exact placement and click to place.
Ìf the property line boundary does not have the desired look, select the boundary and click Edit Table from the Options Bar.
Note: You can snap the property line to a benchmark using the Move command
dding Contour LabeIs
Create a topographic surface with different elevations.
Open a site plan view.
Click Site menu abel Contours, or on the Site tab of the
Design Bar, click abel Contours.
Ìn the Type Selector, select the appropriate contour label
Tip: You may want to select a line type that places labels
only on primary contour lines. The labels will be easier to
read. To set the interval at which primary contour lines
occur, use the Site Settings command. On the Options Bar,
click (ine).
Sketch a line that intersects one or more contour lines.
Ìf the line does not intersect a contour line, Revit
Architecture issues an error.
abels display on the contour lines. (You may need to
zoom in to see the labels.) The label line itself is not visible
unless you select a label.
Thank you!
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