Gap Theory Day Age Firmament Pre flood Oxygen Hyperbaric Giant men Invitation

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CREATION SCIENCE EVANGELISM
Seminar Part 2a: The Garden of Eden
Session 3 of 14. A Creation Seminar by Dr. Kent Hovind c/o 29 Cummings Road Pensacola, Florida [32503] 850-479-3466 www.drdino.com E-mail: dino@drdino.com

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Kent & Jo July 14, 1973

Pensacola, Florida

Kent Andrew 5-77 Eric 6-78 Marlissa 6-79

Paul and Marlissa Jewell Eric and Tanya Hovind

Kent Andrew and Danielle Hovind

Kailey 2 ½

Stephanie 3

Grandkids are God¶s reward for not killing your own kids when you thought about it!
Kent Matthew 8 months
8-10-05

Angelina 14 months

Hovind family 1-05

For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Colossians 1:16

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mark 10:6

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1 Corinthians 15:21-22

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:45

And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years and begat a son« and called his name Seth.
Genesis 5:3

And Seth lived an hundred and five years and begat Enos.
Genesis 5:6

And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan.
Genesis 5:9

130+105+90+70+65+162+«.=4000 B.C.

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Creationist¶s Time Line
6000 years 4400 YA ago (4000 BC) Catastrophe 0

Church age Coming
Cleansing Consummation

Creation Corruption Curse

What was it like before the flood? How can a man live to be over 900 years old?

Antediluvian life span chart

Average age before the flood was 912 years. Today, 70-80
Chart is in seminar notebook or laminated for $5

Did dinosaurs live millions of years ago?

Have people seen living dinosaurs?

What was the original creation like? What did they eat before the flood? What will it be like in the 1000 year reign of Christ?

Where did all the water come from to flood the entire world? Where did it go? Were there really giant people over ten feet (3 M) tall on earth?

There were giants in the earth in those days;
Gen. 6:4

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
II Peter 3:3

And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
II Peter 3:4

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Greek-Dumb on purpose

II Peter 3:5

Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
II Peter 3:6

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
II Peter 3:7

The scoffers are willingly ignorant of:

1. The creation 2. The flood 3. The coming judgement

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Sadly, many Christians are ignorant of: The creation and the flood This ignorance has caused them to compromise w/currently ³accepted theories´ of science.

In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. «v.5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:1&5

Versions Compared
NIV, NASB, et al
In whom we have redemption. Col. 1:14
faith Romans 3:25

KJV
In whom we have redemption through his blood. Col. 1:14

Through faith in his blood. Romans 3:25

Innocent Blood Mt. 27:4 The innocent Blood Mt. 27:4 Freed us from our sins Rev. 1:5 Washed us from our sins Rev. 1:5

Cup which is poured Lk. 22:20 Blood which is shed Lk. 22:20

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Many new versions have taken out dozens of verses, like Acts 4:24, 8:37, I Jn. 5:7, Rev. 1:11. ³Satan cometh immediately and taketh away the word«´ Mark 4:15 Be sure to read The Answers Book by Sam Gipp from CSE. Write for the tract, The Eye Opener to get a list. PO Box 7944, Eugene, OR 97401, or www.avpublications.com
More about Bible versions on video #7

³God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. And God called the firmament heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.´
Genesis 1:5, 8 RSV

(KJV) Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. (NASB) ... And there was evening and there was morning, ONE day. (NLT) ... Together these made up ONE day. (AMP) ... And there was evening and there was morning, ONE day. (RSV) ... And there was evening and there was morning, ONE day. (ASV) ... And there was evening and there was morning, ONE day.

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³Between the first two verses of Genesis there is ample scope for all the geologic eras.´
-Explore the Book, By J. Sidlow Baxter p. 35

³«pre-Adamite rebellion and judgment of Lucifer and associated angel-beings«´
-Explore the Book, by J. Sidlow Baxter

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
(Heb. Tohu waw bohu= unformed and unfilled. It does not mean destroyed) Tohu is used 20 times in the OT with 10 different meanings. ³Ye seek me in vain [tohu]´ Is. 45:19; ³He stretcheth the earth over the empty place [tohu]´ Job 26:7, etc.

Genesis 1:2

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This house is unformed and unfilled but not destroyed.

I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jer. 4:23

I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
This passage has nothing to do with the creation. Jer. 4:24-25

This house is also unformed and unfilled but destroyed.

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is«
The question is not, ³What does it say?´ The question is, ³Do you believe what it says?´

Exodus 20:11

and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Exodus 20:11

It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested,
Exodus 31:17

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Genesis 2:2

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Genesis 2:3

For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Hebrews 4:4

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin: and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5:12

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses,
Romans 5:14

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
I Cor. 15:21-22

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
(Didn¶t plants die? Are plants alive? See video #6)

I Cor. 15:26

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:
Genesis 1:28

³«Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish ( ) the earth«´
Genesis 1:28

(male) means fill (Shoov) means do it again

In 1611 the word ³replenish´ simply meant ³to fill.´ By 1650 a second definition, ³refill´ was added to the dictionary. For hundreds of years the word was used primarily to mean ³fill.´

Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man¶s money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way: and thus did he unto them.
Gen. 42:25

And he commanded the steward of his house, saying, Fill the men¶s sacks with food, as much as they can carry, and put every man¶s money in his sack¶s mouth.
Why not replenish since they were ³refilling´ them?

Gen. 44:1

American Dictionary of the English Language Noah Webster 1828

Webster¶s Dictionary 1891.

Webster¶s Common School Dictionary 1892. By 1892 the two definitions of ³fill´ had switched.

1989 only shows one meaning.

English words sometimes change meanings with time.

In my days the word ³cool´ meant - not hot. The word ³gay´ meant happy.

And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: James 2:3

Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,)
[God preserved the Bible in English He did not promise to preserve the English language]

Romans 1:13

Psalm 119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

God promised to preserve His Word. He did not promise to preserve our English language

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:
Genesis 1:28

the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee

Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou [Lucifer] hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering,

in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Ezek. 28:12-15

And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Genesis 2:8 Day 6

Thus saith the LORD GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, ...
Ezekiel 28:2

Behold thou art wiser than Daniel;« With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches...
Ezekiel 28:3-4

With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches «and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches
Ezekiel 28:4-5

Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty...
Ezekiel 28:17

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? « and all the sons of God (angels) shouted for joy?
Job 38:4&7

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Gen. 1:9-13

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Genesis 1:31

Aren¶t µcreated¶ and µmade¶ different words with different meanings?

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
More on video #7 about this!

Genesis 1:26-27

Gap theory proponents teach the first earth was destroyed and God had to remake the earth.

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Revelation 21:1

But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Hebrews 1:13-14

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mark 10:6

When did Satan fall? 1. Everything was created in six days. Ex. 20:11 2. Satan was created. Ezek. 28:13, 14 3. Satan was in Eden until he sinned. Ezek. 28:14 4. Eden was made on day 6. Gen. 2:8 5. Since Angels were created to be ³ministering spirits´ for us (Heb.1:14 and Mt. 18:10) why would God create them millions of years before man?

6. Satan and the angels rejoiced when the foundations of the earth were laid. Job 38:1-4 7. The foundations were laid on day 3. Gen. 1:9 8. Everything was ³very good´ at the end of day 6. Gen. 1:31 9. Adam was 130 when Seth was born. Gen. 5:3.

10. Cain & Able born ? years before Seth. 11. The creation of Adam ³the first man´ was ³the beginning´ Mt 19:4, Mk 10:6, I Cor 15:45. 12. There was no death until Adam sinned. Gen. 3:6. Romans 5:8,12,14, I Cor. 15:21 13. Gen. 1:5 was ³the first day.´

It was ³very good´ until man sinned (up to 100 years after creation) and God cursed the world.

1. Invented 1814 by a Scottish theologian (and Masonic Lodge member) named Thomas Chalmers -not historical position of church. -Given more circulation in 1876 by George H. Pember in Earth¶s -Earliest Ages. -Really took hold in Christian -circles due to Scofield -Reference Bible in 1909. 2. Violates scriptures Gen. 1:5; 2:2-3, Ex. 20:11; Heb. 4:4.

Problems with the ³Gap Theory´
3. Puts death before Adam¶s sin- violates Rom. 5:12, I Cor. 15:21 4. Has Satan fall before day 7- violates Gen. 1:31; 2:8; Ezek. 28:12-15

Questions to ask ³Gap Theory´ believers:
1. Was there death before Adam¶s sin? Rom. 5:12, I Cor. 15:21 2. When did Satan fall? Gen. 1:31; 2:8; Ezek. 28:12-15 3. Was Satan already the ³god of this world´ (II Cor. 4:5) when God gave Adam dominion (Gen. 1:26-28) over the earth?

4. Thousands of species of living animals are also found as fossils. Did God recreate these? 5. When God said everything was ³very good´ was Satan evil and were Adam and Eve standing on thousands of dead plants and animals?

6. Wouldn¶t Noah¶s flood have erased all evidence of the ³billions of years´ taught in the gap theory? 7. What did God mean in Ex. 20:11 and 31:17? 8. Does everyone who reads the Bible need some ³guru´ to tell them what the Bible says?

9. Why can the word ³let´ (Romans 1:13) change meanings in 400 years but the word ³replenish´ cannot? 10. Why do you need a gap? What took place during this time?

11. Why does Revelation 21:1 state that the earth we live on now is the ³first´ earth if it really is not? 12. Was Adam ³the first man´ as I Corinthians 15:45 says?

If ³without form and void´ in Gen. 1 and Jer. 4, or ³replenish´ from Adam¶s and Noah¶s time must mean the same thing, does ³Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.´ Acts 13:41 (Discussing the resurrection of Christ) And ³Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.´ Habakkuk 1:5 (Discussing the coming invasion of the Chaldeans) mean the same?

Arguments for Gap Theory
Weak
Replenish means ³fill again´
Involves adding to God¶s Word

Wrong

Not true in 1611

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Ex. 20:11 ³six day«´ only means current earth. Lucifer¶s flood took place during gap Gen. 1 has ³and´ between every verse. This involves a break in time. Modern Science has proven the earth is old.

³Let the earth burst forth with every sort of grass and seed bearing plant, and the fruit trees« all this occurred on the third day*´
*literally: ³a period of time´ Genesis 1:13, 16 Living Bible

For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past,
Psalms 90:4

³that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day´
II Peter 3:8

The Holy Bible in Modern English by Ferrar Fenton, 1903

The Holy Bible in Modern English by Ferrar Fenton, 1903

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, « and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the third day. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, ... and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Genesis:1:11-19

Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. « 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:13 plants made on the third day. Genesis 1:16 sun made on the fourth day.

Genesis 1:20 birds and insects to pollinate plants made on the fifth day.

³Probably, so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew of Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the idea that creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience«´
James Barr, Professor of Hebrew at Vanderbilt University and former Regis Professor of Hebrew at Oxford university. Letter to David Watson cited in That Their Words May be Used Against Them, Henry Morris, 1997, p. 375.

Or, to put it negatively, the apologetic arguments which suppose the ³days´ of creation to be long eras of time, the figures of years not to be chronological, and the flood to be a merely local Mesopotamian flood, are not taken seriously by such professors, as far as I know.´
James Barr, Professor of Hebrew at Vanderbilt University and former Regis Professor of Hebrew at Oxford university. Letter to David Watson cited in That Their Words May Be Used Against Them, Henry Morris, 1997, p. 375.

The word day is ³yom´ in Hebrew. It is used 1541 x in the KJV. 1 x John 11:9 Jesus answered, Are
there not twelve hours in the day? Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

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There are no verses in the Bible where ³yom´ means anything other than a normal 24 hour day if it is modified with a number like ³the second day.´

Old Earth vs. Young Earth
The first 3 days are not literal days without the sun.
There is no closure (³evening and morning´) to the 7th day so it could be billions of years.
Ex. 20:11 puts all 7 days as being the same. Scores of other scriptures indicate a 6 day creation.
Ibid. The Hebrew calls for ³Day 7´. It is very literally a normal 24 hr. day. Many scriptures refer to ³The 7th day.´ The seventh day is symbolic of God¶s rest but it was a literal day in Gen. I. Were the Jews to work 6 days and take the rest of their life off?

Old Earth vs. Young Earth
Science has proven the Earth is billions of years old.
All evidence that says the Earth is billions of years old is based on flawed logic. See Sem. 1 Because of man¶s sin, plants grew thorns and thistles. Gen. 3:18. Abram sacrificed an innocent ram. Gen. 22. Scores of scripture references tell of nature¶s suffering because of man¶s sin. Rom. 8:18-22.

The ³death before sin´ only indicates human death. Adam¶s sin did not effect creation.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth
Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old.
God¶s word is the judge not majority opinion. History is replete with examples where the majority has been wrong.

This should not be a major divisive issue.

Then agree with me and there will be no division. Jesus always divides. See: Luke 12:51, Jn. 6:66

Old Earth vs. Young Earth
II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 indicate a day may be a thousand years.
Neither of these passages are talking about the creation. Both say thousand not billion. Plants (day 3) cannot survive billions of years with the sun (day 4) or insects (day 5).

God was using simple language to explain the creation for a simple people.

This assumes ancient man was dumb and we need modern Gurus to tell us what God¶s Word means. (Cults get started this way.)

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³As were many persons from Alabama, I was a born-again Christian. When I was fifteen, I entered the Southern Baptist Church with great fervor and interest in the fundamentalist religion; I left at seventeen when I got to the University of Alabama and heard about evolution theory.´
E.O. Wilson, The Humanist, Sept/Oct. 1982, p. 40

E.O. Wilson has been an evolutionary entomologist and sociobiologist at Harvard for over 30 years.

³Dr. Hovind, Until I went to college my faith in God was sound but my college history class helped to destroy that faith. I started to doubt the Bible and God¶s word. I even started to doubt Jesus was truly God¶s son, and that he died and rose for my sins. My best friend showed me your tapes and I was in awe of what I saw. Everything I thought I knew about life was changed.´ Scott, Iowa

Moses Mordecai Marx Levy alias ³Karl Marx,´ at age 17, wrote a beautiful paper telling of his love for the Lord.

Then, he went off to college, studied philosophy, and turned his back on God.

Andrew Carnegie, the steel magnate, was once said to be America¶s richest man. Though raised a Christian, he became an atheist. He wrote in his autobiography: ³When I, along with three or four of my boon companions, was in this stage of doubt about theology, including the supernatural element, and indeed the whole scheme of salvation through vicarious atonement and all the fabric built upon it, I came fortunately upon Darwin¶s and Spencer¶s works. . . . I remember that light came as in a flood and all was clear. Not only had I got rid of theology and the supernatural, but I had found the truth of evolution.´

Autobiography of Andrew Carnegie, ed. John C. Van Dyke (1920; reprint, Boston: Northeastern University Press, 1986), 327.

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Hutton¶s book, Theory of the Earth, published in 1795, made people doubt the earth was 6000 years old.

Thomas Chalmers gap theory was invented in 1814 and Christians accepted the ³millions of years´ idea into the Bible.

Darwin¶s book, The Origin of Species«, published in 1859, made people doubt the Creator.

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HER'ESY, n. [Gr. to take, to hold; L. haeresis.] 1. A fundamental error in religion, or an error of opinion respecting some fundamental doctrine of religion. But in countries where there is an established church, an opinion is deemed heresy, when it differs from that of the church. The Scriptures being the standard of faith, any opinion that is repugnant to its doctrines, is heresy; but as men differ in the interpretation of Scripture, an opinion deemed heretical by one body of christians,may be deemed orthodox by another. In Scripture and primitive usage,heresy meant merely sect, party, or the doctrines of a sect, as we now use denomination or persuasion, implying no reproach. 2. Heresy, in law, is an offense against christianity, consisting in a denial of some of its essential doctrines, publicly avowed and obstinately maintained. 3. An untenable or unsound opinion or doctrine in politics. HER'ETIC, n. 1. A person under any religion, but particularly the christian, who holds and teaches opinions repugnant to the established faith, or that which is made the standard of orthodoxy. In strictness, among christians, a person who holds and avows religious opinions contrary to the doctrines of Scripture, the only rule of faith and practice. 2. Any one who maintains erroneous opinions. HERET'ICAL, a. Containing heresy; contrary to the established faith, or to the true faith. 1828 Webster¶s Dictionary

And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Genesis 1:6

The dirt keeps the oceans away from each other.
Water Dirt Water

And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl (birds) that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Genesis 1:20

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night: «And God made two great lights« the stars also.
Genesis 1:14&16

I knew a man in Christ above 14 years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such a one caught up to the third heaven.
II Cor. 12:2

The heavens declare the glory of God; the firmament sheweth His handiwork.
Psalms 19:1

And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Genesis 1:7

Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
Psalms 148:4

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
II Peter 3:5

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
17 times in Bible- more on video #7

Isaiah 40:22

The earth¶s atmosphere has 6 layers today.

X-Ray and UV Radiation (blocked) Visible Light

Radio Waves
Some think it was a layer of ice suspended by the magnetic field- the Mysner effect.

A train in Japan suspended on superconducting coils. Physical
Science A Unified Approach 1996 p. 465

HBJ Physical Science 1989 p. 313

Magnet floating above a superconductor. This is known as the ³Mysner Effect´

Ice clouds are forming from the shuttle¶s exhaust. These clouds ³drift´ toward the poles and float there in the ±2200F air 51 miles (85 KM) above the Arctic.

www.astronomy.com 6-12-03

³After this, on the second day, he placed the heaven over the whole world, and separated it from the other parts; and determined it should stand by itself. He also placed a crystalline firmament round it,´

Josephus Book 1, chapter 1

Canopy of water overhead and water under the crust of the earth.
Picture courtesy Dr. Carl Baugh

The earth is the LORD¶s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.
Psalms 24:1

To him that stretched out the earth above the waters:
Psalms 136:6

A few feet of ice suspended by the Mysner effect above 10-15 miles? (20 KM) of air

10-20 miles? (15-30 KM of crust

½ mile? of water under the crust where the fountains of the deep came from in Gen. 7

The original creation was very different than what we see today. There was a layer of water or ice above the atmosphere. ³And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament (where the birds fly. V. 21) : and it was so.´ Genesis 1:7 There was also a layer a water under the earth¶s crust. ³The earth is the LORD¶s, « For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.´ Psalms 24:1 ³To him that stretched out the earth above the waters:´ Psalms 136:6 More on seminar part 2 about this. Picture courtesy Dr. Carl Baugh

In the six hundredth year of Noah¶s life, «the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
(more in seminar 6 on the flood)

Genesis 7:11-12

Scott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990 p. 224

San Andreas Fault California, USA
Scott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990 p. 190

There is still water under the crust of the earth, otherwise there could be no hot water vents in the ocean floor.

Water vapor surrounds planets, scientists discover
By Tim Radford
The Guardian

LONDON- European scientists using an ultra-cold orbiting telescope have discovered unimaginable volumes of water in the space between the stars. « The scientists were astounded to find water vapor in the freezing atmospheres of Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune and Saturn« and Titan.
Dayton Daily News April 8, 1998 p. 12A

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Dr. Baugh thinks that a canopy of ice would change the stars radio waves to audible sounds. Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

International Falls, Minnesota News 1993

International Falls, Minnesota News 1993

An 80-foot-long (24m) apatosaurus, also known as a brontosaurus, had a set of nostrils about the same size as a horse¶s...

Strange Stories, Amazing Facts Readers Digest 1978 p. 335

Glenco Biol Amber p 333 also SFES 1990 p. 148

Insect trapped in amber (petrified tree sap)

Amber display at Joseph Hurt Studio in Stone Mountain, GA

Air bubbles in amber

³50% more oxygen than it does now.´

Time Magazine,
Nov 9, 1987, p. 82 Some research shows it had 35% oxygen.
See New Scientist March 11, 2000

³The only trend in the recent literature is the suggestion of far more oxygen in the early atmosphere than anyone imagined.´
Thaxton (Ph.D. Chemistry), Bradley (Ph.D. Materials Science), Olsen (Ph.D. Geochemistry), The Mystery of Life¶s Origin, 1992, p. 80.

Under double atmospheric pressure blood plasma will become oxygen saturated.

Baby Jessica McClure after being in an 8´ (20 cm) well for 58½ hours in Texas (1987)

Jessica¶s back yard during rescue.

Baby Jessica McClure had lost circulation to some parts of her body for 58½ hours.

Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber

Baby Jessica¶s leg and foot were saved because of a hyperbaric oxygen chamber.

Jessica at the White House a year later.

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JAPAN- over 200 chambers, « very promising work in treatment of sudden deafness and blindness. SWEDEN- diabetic gangrene and burger¶s disease. BELGIUM- re-implants of total extremities. INDIA- leprosy
hyperbaric1@earthlink.net or www.hyperbaric.com www.hochealth.com- they have a chamber in Vancouver, BC- $50/hr, 877-520-6867 Lance Brubaker- 770-560-2676 sells hyperbaric for in home

El Paso Times Aug. 21, 2000

³Patients who got extra oxygen were half as likely to be nauseated after surgery.´

Lyons Daily News (KS) Jan. 20, 2000

Hudson Valley Hyperbarics in Southeast NY treats autism and neurological disorders and gets ³remarkable results.´ 2002 see also:
www.creationevidence.org

Pensacola News Journal Dec. 22, 2002

A one person chamber

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NFL: Dallas Cowboys San Francisco 49¶ers New York Jets NBA: Seattle Supersonics New York Knicks Vancouver Grizzlies CFL: BC Lions NHL: Vancouver Canucks Philadelphia Flyers San Jose Sharks Phoenix Coyotes Detroit Red Wings St Louis Blues New York Rangers

Healing time is nearly twice as fast!

³I have never felt better or more rejuvenated than I did stepping out of this chamber for the first time.´
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Caution! Hyperbaric chambers do not have enough negative ions and this causes problems for some .
Email from Craig chflaman@msn.com

An ³oxygen bar´ in a mall in Alaska.

Kent Hovind in a hyperbaric chamber in Hood River, OR 6-02. Call Ron Lowell 541-387-5441 for details.

Dr. Kei Mori at Kao University in Tokyo raised tomato plants under a plastic greenhouse that filtered out UV light. I was told he pressurized CO2 to the stems of the plants.

One 16 foot (4.9m) tall plant produced 907 tomatoes!
Dr. Mori died in 1993, but his work continues today. I have been told the plants can still be purchased in the towns of Ohtama and Aki, Japan. Dave Woetzel has lots of info on this plant. 603-2247757 ex. 3327, Also see Himawari-net.co.jp, LaForet Engineering, 1985 expo. Sonic Bloom article in Creation Illustrated Summer 2000, p. 24, 800-360-2732

1985 ³Expo attraction. Plant that may bear 10,000 tomatoes grows under lenses that filter out sun¶s harmful rays.´
www.himawari-net.co.jp

Tomato plant

Sonic Bloom article in Creation Illustrated Summer 2000, p. 24, Back issues available from CSE
800-360-2732, www.sonicbloom.com

Five squash per leafBloom article in Creation Illustrated instead of one. Sonic
Summer 2000, p. 24, 800-360-2732, www.sonicbloom.com

4.5 M

Sonic Bloom article in Creation Illustrated Summer 2000, p. 24, Get a back issue from CSE, www.sonicbloom.com

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National Center for Science Education
Defending the Teaching of Evolution in the Public Schools

Welcome! to the homepage of the National Center for Science Education, Inc. -NCSE -- a nonprofit, tax-exempt membership organization working to defend the teaching of evolution against sectarian attack. We are a nationally-recognized clearinghouse for information and advice to keep evolution in the science classroom and ³scientific creationism´ out.

National Center for Science Education
Issue 10 (Volume 3, Number 4 - Fall 1982)

Andrew Carnegie 1835-1919 Steel Tycoon

Carnegie Foundation financed the National Center for Science Education. Its President is Dr. Eugenie C. Scott. Their stated purpose is to keep creation out of public schools.

In a radio debate Dr. Eugenia Scott said, ³Dr. Hovind, There are

80 separate layers of coal in the Midwest. (She¶s right) If you take a look at the amount of coal «in the world,

³the entire biomass (plants) of the world today could not possibly be converted to that much fossil fuel. (She¶s right again!) There had to have been an enormous amount of time involved in the laying down of the coal seams.´ (She¶s wrong!)
Dr. Eugenia Scott, executive director of the National Center for Science Education, founded to keep creationism out of schools, in a radio debate with me on 11-8-93
(WBT Charlotte, NC)

Strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet (60 M) thick! Eagle Butte mine in WY. 10,000 square mile coal reserve in
Powder River basin. Earth Magazine May, 1993.
Silver Burdett & Ginn 1987 p. 231

Mr. Newton Anderson found this bell inside a lump of coal in 1944 in West Virginia. He still has the bell. (304)-842-5556.
newt@iolinc.net
See: Ammunition by Norm Scharbough Communique Conservative Publishers PO Box 215, Brownsburg, IN 46112 1991 (317)-852-0877 photo 10-22-99

Cast Iron pot found in coal in 1912 at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, OK. Now in Creation Evidence Museum,
www.creationevidence.org

A Shoe Sole From Nevada
Oct. 8, 1922 American Weekly section of New York Sunday American by Dr. W. H. Ballou. The stitching pattern was clearly visible including the twist of the thread. The rock was ³213-248 million years old´. The Hidden History of the Human Race Michael A. Cremo p.113-115 ph. 209-337-2200 See Seminar part 6 for more on artifacts found in coal.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Genesis 1:29

³The discovery of thousands of well-preserved leaves in Antarctica has sparked a debate among geologists over whether the polar region, rather than being blanketed by a massive sheet of ice for millions of years enjoyed a near-temperate climate as recently as three million years ago.´
Raymond, Chris, ³Scientists Report Finding Fossils of Dinosaurs in Antarctica's Interior,´ Chronicle of Higher Education (March 20, 1991), p. A11.

³In January, Mr. Webb-with David Harwood, an assistant professor of geology at the University of Nebraska at Lincoln, and Barrie McKelvey, a professor of geology at the University of New England in Australia-found the deposit of leaves on the side of a cliff in a desolate stretch of the Transantarctic Mountains, about 250 miles (400 KM) from the South Pole.´
Raymond, Chris, ³Scientists Report Finding Fossils of Dinosaurs in Antarctica's Interior,´ Chronicle of Higher Education (March 20, 1991), p. A11.

The earth today is 70% under water. Much of the rest is desert, ice caps, tundra and treeless mountain ranges. Only 3% is habitable for man.

The earth today is 70% under water. Much of the rest is desert, ice caps, tundra and treeless mountain ranges. Only 3% is habitable for man.

God himself that formed the earth« He formed it to be inhabited.
Isaiah 45:18

The pre-flood world was probably loaded with bigger trees and animals from pole to pole. More on that in video #6.

A water layer would block out harmful rays from the sun. The sun produces: light, ultraviolet light, X rays, Gamma rays, etc.

*** X-ray

X-rays go through your body like bullets from a machine gun.

The x-rays expose what is in your body in reverse image.
This is why many radiologists have a negative outlook on life!

The sun x-rays us every day of our lives (except on cloudy days).

Your skin feels the full force of the sun¶s x-rays. Holt Biology 2004, p. 861

And thou hast filled me with wrinkles, Job 16:8

Lead or concrete

Belly Button

Average age before the flood was 912 years. Today, 70-80
Chart is in seminar notebook or laminated for $5

And Enoch lived sixty and five years and begat Methuselah:
Genesis 5:21

Add zoom in on two guys 65 yrs old when son was born

65 divided by 12 = 5 ½ years old when they became fathers?

Robert Wadlow Alton, Illinois

8¶ 11¼´ (2.74m)
Died 1940

Robert Wadlow with his father (R) and brother (L). Size 37 shoe next to Dr. Hovind¶s #11!

CUBIT 18-21 inches

And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

1 Samuel 17:4

9 Feet 2.75 M

Goliath

Brother Robert Father

Robert Wadlow Pastor Rodney Annis First Baptist Church of Foster 4737 Fosterburg Road Bethalto Ill 62010 618-259-2550 618-2594480 9/12/93 or Chamber of Commerce for info on Robert 618Done 8-25-97

Drawing of 11¶6¶¶ (3.5 M) man from Italian coal mine.
Dinosaur, by Carl Baugh, (254) 897-3200

How to tell the difference between a male and female skeleton;

It is not by the number of ribs! Only one bone in the human body will grow back if it is removed- the lower rib!

Creation ex nihilo Sept, 1999, p. 46

If the feet are pointed toward the mall-it¶s a woman!

How to tell the difference between a male and female skeleton;

The TMJ of the woman is worn out more than on the man.
Because she must tell him everything twice since he does not listen the first time!

World¶s tallest living man is 8¶ 4´ (2.5 M) lives in Ukraine and is still growing!

Roman Emperor Maximinus was 8¶6´ (2.5 M) tall!

Chronicle of the Roman Emperors © 1995, p.160

A skeleton nine feet eight inches (2.95m) tall was recovered from a stone burial mound at Brewersville, Indiana in 1879.
Indianapolis News, November 10, 1975, quoted in Reader¶s Digest¶s Mysteries of the Unexplained
Also call Renee and Peter Schissel @

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³July 24, 2000 I interviewed Charles Hankley of Temecula, CA 909-6991781. In the early 1970¶s he was vacationing in Virginia City, NV. He went to a small private museum where he saw 2 skeletons about 9 feet (2.75 M) tall in a glass covered pit. The owner had found them in a cave nearby. About 10 years later he stopped in to see the skeletons but the owner told him someone from the government had taken them and would not return them.´ -Kent Hovind

³Buried beneath heavy layers of shell some 30 miles below the city (Shreveport?, LA), Mr. J. M. Clay found unmistakable evidence of a prehistoric race. Huge bones similar in every respect to a man¶s were found imbedded in thick layers of clam shells. As many as a score (20) of skeletons were found intact. Every skeleton was fully nine feet (2.75 M) high.´ The Daily Town Talk Dec. 9, 1902
The Coushatta Citizen, Thursday Dec. 12, 2002 p. 4A NW Louisiana

A skeleton nearly ten feet (3+ M) long was found in the Humbolt Lake (NV) bed in June, 1931.
Lovelock Review-Miner¶s June 19, 1931

Legends from Guam tell of giant ancestors that built the ³Latte´ stones found there.
Ancient Infrastructure, Remarkable Roads, Mines, Walls, Mounds, Stone Circles By William Corliss © 1999, p. 293

*

³At Walkerton, 20 miles southwest of South Bend [IN], a group of amateur archeologists opened a mound in 1925 and unearthed the skeletons of eight giants ranging from eight to nine feet (2.5- 2.75 M) long. All were wearing heavy copper armor«

Through the bungling of these diggers and the total disinterest of the archaeological museum establishment, these discoveries have now been scattered and lost.´
Weird America by Jim Brandon p. 84 see: www.ior.com/~kjc/pages/strange.htm

A skeleton 12 feet tall (3.66 M) was found by soldiers in Lompoc Rancho, California in 1883. The remains were reburied due to objections by local Indians.
The Unexplained by Dr. Karl Shuker p.151 For more on giant human remains, contact Todd Jurasek 918-481-1710
7311 S. Utia Apt 802, Tulsa, OK 74136

A skeleton 12 feet tall (3.66 M) was reported in many papers near Tucson, AZ in 1891. The man had 6 toes, long hair and a bird-shaped headdress.
Weird America by Jim Brandon p. 2
See also Lost Cities of North and Central America by David Hatcher Childress p. 315, 351, 390, 468, 496 (815)253-9000 see also: www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/giants.html earth-house.com/mystery_travel/ooparts/ooparts.html

³Our friends told us how and whence they came into this country, and how they had settled themselves there; how it came that, notwithstanding their vicinity to the Mexicans [Aztecs], they resembled each other so little, and lived in perpetual warfare with each other. The tradition was also handed down from their forefathers, that in ancient times there lived here a race of men and women who were of immense stature with heavy bones, and were a very bad and evil-disposed people, whom they had for the greater part exterminated by continual war, and the few that were left gradually died away.
(Taken from Discovery and Conquest of Mexico and New Spain, Bernal Diaz de Castillo, p. 185).

In order to give us a notion of the huge frame of this people, they dragged forth a bone, or rather a thigh bone, of one of those giants, which was very strong, and measured the length of a man of good stature. This bone was still entire from the knee to the hip joint. I measured it by my own person, and found it to be of my own length, although I am a man of considerable height. They showed us many similar pieces of bones, but they were all worm-eaten and decayed; we, however, did not doubt for an instant, that this country was once inhabited by giants. Cortes observed, that we ought to forward these bones to his majesty in Spain by the very first opportunity.´
(Taken from Discovery and Conquest of Mexico and New Spain, Bernal Diaz de Castillo, p. 185).

The mummified head of an Inca King 9 1/2 feet tall.
Arrows outline person for scale. Ancient American PO Box 370 Colfax, WS 54730 715-962-3299 Issue #34, p. 37 Giants of the Royal Incas by Glenn Kimball.

Giant stones found in Lebanon. Feats and Wisdom of the Ancients, Time Life p. 65
see also www. greatserpentmound.org/ articles/ giants3.html

18 KG
Ancient American, PO Box 370, Colfax, WS 54730, 715-962-3299, p. 4

Far Out Adventures the Best of World Explorer Magazine p. 16 Vol. 1
No. 3

800-259-6300
www.wexclub.com

Found in Lovelock Cave, Nevada, 1911
It is in the Humbolt Museum in Winnemucca, Nevada.
702-623-2912 20´eamts 12´ 8 1/4´ mandible Reader¶s Digest¶s
Mysteries of the Unexplained p. 41
See also: Mankind in the Making by William Howells, Anthropology Dept. at Harvard

thumb bones call Ron Wyatt for new picture 615-331-6263 Done 8-25-97

Photo by Ron Wyatt 931-486-0557

CUBIT

Thigh bone replica from a giant skeleton found in Egypt.
Joe Taylor makes castings. P.O. 559, Crosbyton, TX 79322 806-675-7777 or 2421

Thigh bone replica from a giant skeleton found in Egypt.
Joe Taylor makes castings. P.O. 559, Crosbyton, TX 79322 806-675-7777 or 2421

About 6.5´ (16.5 cm)

Photo by Ron Wyatt 931-486-0557 www.wyattmuseum.com

Race of Giants Lived Here
Skeletons of Mammoth Human Race Unearthed in the County.

Found in Big Mound
Near the outlet of Lake Noquebay, in NE Wisconsin, mounds were found containing hundreds of skeletons. ³One skull found was about three times the size of the ordinary human and other bones were correspondingly big.´
The Index Wausaukee, Wisconsin Friday October 14, 1904 Vol 11. No.9 (Mounds are a few feet under water now in the lake in front of Ahle¶s Resort 1-715-854-2171) 60 mile N of Green Bay, WS

There were giants in the earth in those days;
Genesis 6:4

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness« So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:26 & 27

**** Chapter 17 textbook showing Human evolution

Is this Grandpa?

Holt Biology, 1991 p. 224

What about the ³cave men?´

Not only were the people bigger and living longer; the insects, reptiles, animals and fish, were bigger also. We will cover that in the next session.

³The biggest pterosaur flying over the inland sea is Pteranodon. Like all reptiles, it grows throughout its life«´
Holt Earth Science, 1991, p. 293

More about that on video #3.

³Like all reptiles, it grows throughout its life«´ Dinosaurs were big lizards that lived with Adam and Eve.

© Dennis Lipp

How will he view the world after 12 or 16 years in your school system?

Created? Evolved?

³75% of all children raised in Christian homes who attend public schools will reject the Christian faith by their first year of college.´ Video-Let My Children Go Caryl Matritiano Author, Vice President Jeremiah films and international cult expert.
800-828-2290 www.jeremiahfilms.com

More about that on video #4!

Let¶s summarize:
1. God made the world. 2. He owns it. 3. He makes the rules. (like the 10 commandments) 4. We are guilty of breaking His rules.

10 Commandments Ex. 20
1. No other God¶s before me. 2. No graven images. 3. Don¶t take God¶s name in vain. 4. Remember the Sabbath. 5. Honor your father and mother 6. Thou shalt not kill. 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. 8. Thou shalt not steal. 9. Thou shalt not bear false witness. 10. Thou shalt not covet.

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Psalms 7:11

For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
Psalms 5:4

Let¶s summarize:
1. God made the world. 2. He owns it. 3. He makes the rules. (like the 10 commandments) 4. We are guilty of breaking His rules.

5. We will be punished or

we must find a substitute to take our place. Jesus is willing and able.

If you died today, where would you go?

You will be dead for a loooooong time!

All you have is a dash. Use it for God!

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