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A Drawing Room Conversation:

Italy and the UK compared


To succeed, you need
to work as a team
3/10/2008

A presentation by Giovanni Brauzzi


(with the help of Mrs. Carmela Buonomo and Mrs. Paola Ragusa)
Outline
• UK & Italy: a comparison

• The influence of History

• Different perceptions of Europe

• The London’s Italian Orchestra


Geography
Italy UK
Area (Sqm) 301,230 244,820
Coastline (Km) 7,600 12,429
Boundaries (km)
1,932.2 360
Demographics
Italy UK
Population 58,147,733 60,776,238
Population Growth rate 0.01% 0.275%
Migration 2.06 2.17
Migrant(s)/1000 population
Life expectancy 79.94 78.7
(in years)
Birth Rate 8.54 10.67
born/1,000 population (2007)
Death Rate 10.5 10.09
Dead/1,000 population (2007)
Demographics – Age Structure

Italy UK World
0-14 13.75% 17.19% 27.37%
15-64 66.36% 66.98% 65.12%
65 and over 19.89% 15.83% 7.51%
Economic data

Italy UK
GDP per capita (US$) 31,000 35,300
GDP real Growth Rate 1.9% 2.9%
Unemployment 6.7% 5.4%
Labour force 42.75% 50.53%
Economic Data
Italy UK

Agriculture /GDP 1.9% 0.9%

Industry/GDP 28.9% 23.4%

Services/GDP 69.2% 75.7%

Agriculture/Labour Force 5% 1.4%

Industry/Labour Force 32% 18.2%

Services/Labour Force 63% 80.4%


Telecommunications
Italy UK
Telephone lines (million) 25 33.5
Mobile phones (million) 71.5 69.7
Radio Stations (AM) 100 219
Radio Stations (FM) 4,600 431
Shortwave 9 3
Television Stations 358 228
Internet Users (million) 28.9 33.6
Infrastructures

Italy UK
Railways 19,459 Km 16,567 Km
Highways 479,688 Km 387,674 Km
Waterways 2,400 Km 3,200 Km
Airports 132 449
Heliports 5 11
The influence of
History
• Londinium
• Florentine bankers ruined by the King of
England
• The “Grand Tour”
• The “Risorgimento”
• Different interpretations
Londinium
Florentine bankers ruined
by the King of England
The Grand Tour

He was a member of the residential colony who had made Florence their home. He knew
the people who never walked about with Baedekers, who had learnt to take a siesta after
lunch, who took drives the pension tourists had never heard of, and saw by private
influence galleries which were closed to them. Living in delicate seclusion, some in
furnished flats, others in Renaissance villas on Fiesole’s slope, they read, wrote, studies,
and exchanged ideas, thus attaining to that intimate knowledge, or rather perception, of
Florence which is denied to all who carry in their pockets the coupons of Cook”.
A Room with a View,
by Edward Morgan Forster
Risorgimento

“It is a tribute to the respect with


which England and Palmerston were
regarded that the Italians felt
that the British must have been in
some way responsible for the
triumphant outcome.”

L. C. B. Seaman, Victorian England


A British negative view on Italy

“If states are to function well they need an


overarching sense of a greater whole to
which the interest of the individual, the
group or the party are ultimately
subordinate; at the start of the new
millennium, ‘Italy’ appeared still too
uncertain and contested an idea to provide
the emotional care of a nation – one al least
that was in peace with itself and able to face
the future with confidence.”
Christopher Duggan
The Force of Destiny
A history of Italy since 1796
Allen Lowe 2007
Abbiamo ancora
un ruolo nel mondo ?

Cosmopolitismo
come dono dell’Italia al mondo:
“L’Italia imparava a occuparsi
degli
affari del genere umano,
dimenticando i suoi”
(E.Quinet, Le rivoluzioni d’Italia)

L’essenza del miracolo italiano fu


di
aver creato ricchezza che non si
trasformò in potenza ma si
trasfigurò
in bellezza….Ogni cultura che si
irradia
consuma, come una candela,
il corpo da cui trae luce.
Come ha scritto Fernand Braudel:
“Quando cadde sull’Italia la notte,
Beati monoculi
in terra caecorum
Different perceptions of Europe
• “Graecia capta ferum victorem coepit”
• Playing Athens to Rome (London vs Washington)
• Soft Power vs Hard Power
• Two different approaches
How best to safeguard
NATIONAL INTERESTS
in the presence of:

•Few commodities
•Limited energy sources
•Aging and shrinking population
•No way of keeping gates closed
•Cultural and institutional pluralism
•Universal vision
•Lessons from old and recent past

The Smartest Option


PURSUING NATIONAL INTERESTS
THROUGH MULTILATERAL FORA
THE CONSTITUTIONAL
FRAMEWORK
Art. 11 of Italian Constitution: Italy rejects
war as an instrument of aggression against the
liberties of other people and as a means for
settling international controversies; it agrees,
on conditions of equality with other States, to
such limitations of sovereignty as may be
necessary for an international order aimed at
ensuring peace and justice among Nations; it
promotes and encourages international
organizations having such ends in view.
The UK background on Europe
Britain as Europe’s rescuer:
“A determination to plan for a future beyond victory has helped to
sustain the British spirit throughout the war and has produced the
spectacle of a nation with its life in peril nevertheless carrying
through domestic reforms of unparalleled magnitude” What Britain has
done 1939-1945, issued by the Ministry of Information. 1945.

Britain as a global hub:


“If you looked at the post-bag of any English village and examined the
letters coming in from abroad, ninety per cent would come from way
beyond Europe” Anthony Eden, early Fifties.
“Europe remained a speculative venture, all right for other
countries, quite unlikely to come to anything, and, in any
case, a project that could never dent the immortal verities
that sustained the independent British state” Hugo Young, This
Blessed Plot, London 1998.
Different perceptions
UNITED
ITALY
KINGDOM
Pooling of sovereignty expansion of limitation of
opportunities prerogatives
European seat in the expansion of limitation of
UNSC opportunities prerogatives
European Charter of expansion of limitation of
Fundamental Rights opportunities prerogatives
European Court of Justice expansion of limitation of
opportunities prerogatives
I
The
Groucho
Marx
Syndrome

I SENT TO THE CLUB A WIRE


STATING: PLEASE ACCEPT MY
RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO
BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL
ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.
The bottomline
• Europe is a common endeavour but still
based on competition among Nations
• If you want to succeed, you should act as a
team
The Italian community in the U.K.
166.853 Italian citizens
• 129.271 London
• 27.441 Manchester
• 10.141 Edinburgh
¼ of them double citizens
The Italian Immigration to the U.K.

The way we were


Until the ’60s the Italian
immigrants worked
in:

• Industry
• Food sector
• Construction works
• Railways
The way we are
Type of employment of Italian immigrants in
the U.K.
1,7% Professionals

Workers
20%
25% Employees

Pensioners
8%
30% Depending
15% family members
Unemployed
Who we are
Working in Business and Finance
Sectors, Insurances, Services Industry,
Research, and also… Food Industry!
Italy-U.K.
How we flew
Italy-U.K.
How we fly

942 weekly flights!


Commercial Exchange Italy-U.K.

8,000
7,000
6,000
5,000
4,000
3,000
2,000
1,000
0
1st Sem. 2nd Sem. 1st Sem. 2nd Sem. 1st Sem. 2nd Sem. 1st Sem.
2005 2005 2006 2006 2007 2007 2008
Italian Exports to the U.K. Italian Imports from the U.K.
Trade Balance for Italy
Diplomatic-Consular Networks of
the Ministries of Foreign Affairs
A comparison in Europe (year 2007)

Diplomatic/consular Staff Budget


network
ITALY 333 8.604 1.813

FRANCE 428 16.721 2.352

GERMANY 357 12.418 2.859

UNITED 467 17.000 2.442


KINGDOM
A Challenge
Punching above
its weight

Le nozze con i fichi


secchi
The
answer
is…

… OUTREACH
and
NETWORKING!
London’s “Italian Orchestra”

Italian
Chamber of
ENIT
Commerce
Italian Cultural Institutes Italian Bankitali
Trade a
Consulate Commissio Defence
s n Attaché
Scientific
Embassy of Italy Attaché

Italian
Embassy

Italian
Ambassador
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