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This page has hyperlinks to certain Family Picture sections of the seminar.

Ctrl-k will 2 World Views make a hyperlink. In bookmark, browse to the slide you wish to link Mormons to. When in presentation mode just click once on the link to go to the Big Brothers slide or type in the number of the Buddumber slide you wish to jump to and hit enter. 1st Law Big Bang Some slides are hidden because I dont always have time to use them in Merry-Go-Round presentations. In sorter mode press Alt-d-h to hide 2nd Law or reveal slides. Public Schools Textbooks-charts Survey Definition of Science

Who did Adams sons marry Who cares -age of earth PopulationOvercrowded NOW-population Galaxies Red Giant Jupiter Saturns Rings Moon Comets Musing Magnetic Field Spin of the Earth Sahara Desert Oil Ice Caps

Mississippi Delta Methuselah Tree Coral Reef Niagara Salt in Oceans Stalactites Chinese Calendar Toy Brainwashed moon dust Invitation

Thanks for showing an interest in Creation Science as a means of evangelizing the world. We pray these visuals will be a help and save you many hours of research. We are constantly adding new material and re-taping the seminar every 12-18 months to keep them current. If you purchase the Creation Ministry Start up kit from us you can get an updated set of CDs once a year for $50. These CDs contain all the 6000+ pictures I use in my 17 hour seminar. I have gathered this information from many sources for many years. Most of the sources are referenced on screen. You may open the picture and photograph it from your screen if you use slides, or print it out on transparency film for an overhead projector. We have found a video projector to be the best by far but they cost from $2,000-$10,000. If a slide has an * it means there are notes below the slide. Go to view to get to notes.

I would be thrilled to answer any questions or offer any help I can. Please dont hesitate to call me if you need assistance. We also have an audio tape with ideas for those wishing to start a ministry in the area of creation. Like Paul on Mars hill in Acts 17, we need to use creation for evangelism and we will get the same 3 results Paul got: some believed, some mocked and some said, we will think about it. We have found this to be an exciting and fruitful ministry for the kingdom of God. We welcome others to join in and feel free to use anything we have. Dr. Kent Hovind

Video projectors;
Range from $1,500 to $10,000 1. Resolution, rated by # pixels* 480 x 640; 600 x 800; (This is the one we started with because each picture takes less memory, loads pictures faster and from 20 feet away we could not see enough difference to justify the extra $1000 for the higher resolution (768 x 1024.) 2. brightness is measured in lumens (I.e. 1250 ansi
lumens-ours is 3,500 lumens and works fine for auditoriums with up to 2,000 people) 3. color contrast some projectors are bright but wash out the colors. 400 to 1 is good 1000 to 1 better. *more pixels means sharper picture but often less brightness. Check out Sony, Epson, Panasonic, Eiki, etc.

Check list: 1. Screen 2. Sight in projector 3. Water 4. Mints 5. Thanks to Pastor and Church 6. Set up tables 7. Time line 8. Sales Table 9. Quitting Time

Please turn off your cell phones and pagers during the seminar.

Thank you!

CREATION SCIENCE EVANGELISM


Seminar Part 1a: Big Bang-Big Dud!
Session 1 of 14. A Creation Seminar by Dr. Kent Hovind c/o 29 Cummings Road Pensacola, FL [32503] 850-479-3466

www.drdino.com

Our new Seminar Workbook is a fill-in-the-blank style book to use the creation series as a course for schools of for better retention.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Timothy 3:16

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
1 Peter 3:15

I have 3 things I wish to accomplish in this seminar:


1) I want to strengthen your faith in Gods Word. 2) If you are not saved I want to try to convert you, or at least make you rethink your faith in evolution. 3) If you are saved and are not doing much for the Lord I am going to try to make you uncomfortable.

Warning! Nearly every sin in the book is covered in this seminar series. It is likely that everyones toes will be stepped on at least once. We recommend steel toed shoes or a willingness to move your feet to get in line with Gods word.

Kent & Jo July 14, 1973

Pensacola, Florida

Kent Andrew 5-77 Eric 6-78 Marlissa 6-79

Dr. Hovinds daughters wedding as seen 15 times on Americas Funniest Home Videos

Paul and Marlissa Jewell Eric and Tanya Hovind

Kent Andrew and Danielle Hovind

Kailey 2

Stephanie 3

Grandkids are Gods reward for not killing your own kids when you thought about it!

Kent Matthew 8 months

8-10-05

Angelina 14 months

Hovind family 1-05

God Has given us over 40 talented and dedicated people to help in our unusual ministry.

Why do we do this?

To change peoples worldview and bring them to Christ!

The Russian atheist astronomer said:

Either there is a god or there isnt, Both possibilities are frightening!

Earth is traveling at 66,000 mph around the sun.

Four Great Questions 1. Who am I (and what am I worth?) 2. Where did I come from? 3. Why am I here? 4. Where am I going when I die?

Amazing! A Big Bang made this world from nothing!


Humanist world-view based on evolution: Man is god and answers to no one.

Incredible design! There must be a smart designer.


Creationist world-view: God is God and judges all men.

the law of Christ is incompatible with the Law of evolution Nay, the two laws are at war with each other
Evolutionist, Sir Arthur Keith, Evolution & Ethics.

Four Great Questions 1. Who am I (and what am I worth?) 2. Where did I come from? 3. Why am I here? 4. Where am I going when I die?

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Genesis 1:1

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Confusion over Bible versions helps further the doubts. See Sem. 7

(Doubt Gods Word)

Genesis 3:1

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
(Deny Gods Word)

Genesis 3:4

For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, ( Deify Man) knowing good and evil.
Genesis 3:5

Exaltation is eternal life, the kind of life that God lives. He is a creator. We can become Gods like our Heavenly Father. This is exaltation.
Official Mormon Doctrine Gospel Principles p. 289-293, 1988 by Corporation of The president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

See: utlm.org

(208)-734-8364

(312)-329-4000

Great books for Mormons who wish to know the truth.

See: utlm.org

(520)-428-2380

(801)485.8894

Great books for Mormons who wish to know the truth. *


See also mormonchallenge.com

For the Son of God became man so that we might become God.
Official Catholic Doctrine from Catechism of the Catholic Church Ignatius Press p. 116 (p. 129 in 2nd ed by Doubleday)
St. Athanasius De Inc., 54, 3: PG 25, 192B. See also: St. Thomas Aquinas, Opusc. 57:1-4 and St. Irenaeus, Adv. Haeres. 3, 19, 1: PG 71, 939 www.chick.com and Marshall Almarode 509-582-5627, www.pro-gospel.org (972-495-0485) has good info for Catholics. See: www.reachingcatholics.org

All available from CSE

$4.50

$6.50 $4.50

Gods reason for creating Adam was his desire to reproduce himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself, and in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even Adam was as much like God as you can get, just the same as Jesus Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifest in the flesh.
Kenneth Copeland Following the Faith of Abraham Part 1 tape 01-3001 side 1

You dont have a god in you. You are one.


Kenneth Copeland The Force of Love, tape 02-0028 1987, Kenneth Copeland Ministries

The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth.


[1]

believer is called Christ Thats who we are; were Christ! [2]


E. Hagin, The Word of Faith 13, 12 (Dec. 1980):14. 2. Kenneth E. Hagin, Zoe: The God-Kind of Life: Tulsa, OK: Kenneth Hagin Ministries, Inc. 1989, pp. 35-41 *
1. Kenneth

The

For thou (Lucifer) hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Isaiah 14:13

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14:14

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 1:26 & 27

If you tell a lie long enough, loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it. Adolph Hitler
The Third Reich at War p. 38 also his propaganda minister Goebles. See Lie #20 in Dictionary of Quotations by Bergen Evans, Bonanza Book, New York

People are more likely to believe a big lie than a small one. Adolph Hitler

Sr. Hovind family

Black spots they said were spider legs.

Only the Cigarette smokesthe person is just the sucker!


Wayne McLaren, died of lung cancer at 51, David Miller Jr. died of emphysema both were models for Marlboro. Janet Sackman, Lucky Strike poster girl, lost her voice box and part of 1 lung to cancer. David Goerlitz, Winston poster man was disabled by a stroke in his mid 30s. Will Thornbury, a Camel model, died of Lung cancer at 56.

The real truth about smoking!

Beer companies try to associate beer with sports!

Budweiser? It doesnt make them any wiser!

Buddummer drawing

Dead Dog

They want you to think Buddumber, Miller Low Life or Dead Dog mix with sports!

Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? Who hath redness of eyes? They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. Proverbs 23:29 & 30

Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. [is fermented] At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.

Proverbs 23:31 & 32

Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink,


See also: Pro. 20:1, Is. 28:7, Lk. 1:15

Habakkuk 2:15

Alcohol 10%

Have you ever laid your head under a semi truck?

How do you know you wont like it if you dont try it?

We are not against science!

Feb 05

Pensacola, FL
Exit 10

Dr. Hovinds Dinosaur Adventure Land and Creation Science Evangelism 29 Cummings Rd. or 5800 N. Palafox

Cummings

St. John

PCA

Pensacola Christian College

Brent Lane

The three story Science Center has scores of amazing science activities.

Like our Climbing Wall

Our seven foot snake!

Our bacteria model

Skins and skulls from dozens of animals!

We have had over 50,000 visitors from all 50 states and 60 foreign countries in our first 4 years.

We have had over 50,000 visitors from all 50 states and 60 foreign countries in our first 4 years.

Feb 05

We have hundreds of amazing rocks and minerals

John shot a T-Rex

Dec, 2002

So we mounted the head on the museum.

Try our 3D, 7 level maze- The Cave Crawler!

We have activities for all ages from 2-92

Try the Leap of Faith off the 16 foot tower. Now thats a swing!

6-02

Feb 05

Measure your horsepower.

God Has given us many talented and dedicated people to help in our unusual ministry.

Support comes from those who love the Lord and our ministry

We offer many homeschool classes at DAL and on video.

We offer many homeschool science classes live at DAL and on video.

We are not against science! We teach the scientific way to shoot a rubber band.

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Galatians 5:17

See www.drdino.com to make one.

Our super plane that flies up to 400 feet!

We are not against science! We are against the poison mixed in the science books.

Merrill Science 1989 1st grade

First Grade Merrill Science, page 46, 1989.

Second Grade Merrill Science, page 26, 1989

The word Evolution has many meanings, only one of which is scientific. 1. Cosmic Evolution: the origin of time, space and matter, i.e. Big Bang.

The word Evolution has many meanings, only one of which is scientific. 1. Cosmic Evolution: the origin of time, space and matter, i.e. Big Bang. 2. Chemical Evolution- the origin of higher elements from hydrogen.

If the Big Bang produced hydrogen and some helium, how did the other 105 elements evolve?

The word Evolution has many meanings, only one of which is scientific. 1. Cosmic Evolution: the origin of time, space and matter, i.e. Big Bang. 2. Chemical Evolution- the origin of higher elements from hydrogen. 3. Stellar and Planetary evolution. Origin of stars and planets. No one has ever seen a star form.

The silent embarrassment of modern astrophysics is that we do not know how even a single one of these stars managed to form.
Martin Harwit, Science, vol. 231, 7 March 1986, p. 1201-1202

Eta Carinae

About every 30 years a star is observed exploding. This is called a nova or supernova.

It has been estimated that there are enough stars for every person on earth to own 11,000,000,000,000 (11 trillion) of them.

70,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars 20,000,000,000 years 3,500,000,000,000 1 year

6,655,000 1 minute
We should see 6 million new stars forming every minute for 20 billion years to make what we can see.

The word Evolution has many meanings, only one of which is scientific. 1. Cosmic Evolution: the origin of time, space and matter, i.e. Big Bang. 2. Chemical Evolution- the origin of higher elements from hydrogen. 3. Stellar and Planetary evolution. Origin of stars and planets. No one has ever seen a star form. 4. Organic Evolution. Origin of Life.

Nobody knows how a mixture of lifeless chemicals spontaneously organized themselves into the first living cell.
Paul Davies, Australian Centre for Astrobiology, Macquarie University, Sydney. New Scientist 179(2403);32 12 July, 2003

Davies was once described by the Washington Times as the best science writer on either side of the Atlantic.

The word Evolution has many meanings, only one of which is scientific. 1. Cosmic Evolution: the origin of time, space and matter, i.e. Big Bang. 2. Chemical Evolution- the origin of higher elements from hydrogen. 3. Stellar and Planetary evolution. Origin of stars and planets. No one has ever seen a star form. 4. Organic Evolution. Origin of Life. 5. Macro-Evolution. Changing from one kind into another.

Dog breeds

Still a dog!
Thats not evolution only variation. The dog, wolf and coyote probably had a common ancestor!

Dog

Wolf

Which one is not like the others?

Coyote

Banana

A child can tell you!

The fruit tree yielding fruit after his kindv. 12 the living creature after his kindv. 24 (10 times in chapter 1)
Genesis 1

The word Evolution has many meanings, only one of which is scientific. 1. Cosmic Evolution: the origin of time, space and matter, i.e. Big Bang. 2. Chemical Evolution- the origin of higher elements from hydrogen. 3. Stellar and Planetary evolution. Origin of stars and planets. No one has ever seen a star form. 4. Organic Evolution. Origin of Life. 5. Macro-Evolution. Changing from one kind into another. 6. Micro-Evolution. Variations within kinds. Only this one has been observed.

Religious-Non Science

More on video #4 about this!

Holt General Science Teachers Edition, 1988, p. 381

Science n. [< scire, to know] 1. Systematized knowledge derived from observation, study, etc. Websters Dictionary

First Law of Thermodynamics: Matter (and/or energy) cannot be created or destroyed *

There are only two choices: 1. Somebody made the world. 2. The world made itself.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Genesis 1:1

Humanists regard the universe as self existing and not created.


Humanist Manifesto 1 (1933) Tenent #1
Textbooks often have the U capitalized to deify universe.

Big Bang!

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61

Humanists regard the Universe* as self existing and not created.


Humanist Manifesto 1 (1933) Tenent #1

Uni=single verse=spoken sentence

And God said, Let there be light


Genesis 1:3

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61

Prentice Hall Earth Science, 1999 p. 63

They cut down a tree to print that! Wheres Al Gore when you need him?

1989

HBJ General Science, 1989, p. 362

The big bang idea began with a Belgian astronomer, Georges Edward Lemaitre (18941966). According to Isaac Asimov, Lemaitre conceived this mass to be no more than a few light-years in diameter. At the very least, that would be two light-years or about twelve trillion miles. by 1965 that figure was reduced to 275 million miles, by 1972 to 71 million miles, by 1974 to 54 thousand miles, by 1983 to a trillionth the diameter of a proton, And now, to nothing at all! A singularity! Bolton Davidheiser

April 2002

... the observable universe could have evolved from an infinitesimal region*. Its then tempting to go one step further and speculate that the entire universe evolved from literally nothing. *Dot
Alan Guth & P. Steinhardt Scientific American, May 1984 p.128 See Darling, David, On Creating Something from Nothing, New Scientist, vol. 151 (September 14, 1996).

Prentice Hall General Science

The nebula begins to rotate,

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, p. 69

Big Bang!

Creationists Time Line:


In the beginning God...
6000 years ago
(4000 BC)

1=150 years

4400 YA Flood

0 Jesus Birth

2000

Creation

Evolutionists Time Line:


In the beginning dirt.
20,000,000,000 years ago Big Bang

Oct. 17, 1999

News media and textbooks always try to make it look like it is science vs. religion. They falsely assume that evolution is part of science.

Creationists Time Line:


6000 years ago
(4000 BC)

1=150 years

4400 YA Flood

0 Jesus Birth

2000

Creation

Evolutionists Time Line:


This religion is tax supported!
20,000,000,000 years ago Big Bang

Portland, Oregon

Pensacola, Florida

1. Where did the matter come from?

1. Where did the matter come from? 2. Where did the laws come from? Gravity, centrifugal force, inertia, etc

Coles Law

1. Where did the matter come from? 2. Where did the laws come from? Gravity, centrifugal force, (and why inertia, etc

arent the laws still evolving?)

1. Where did the matter come from? 2. Where did the laws come from? Gravity, centrifugal force, inertia, etc 3. Where did the energy come from?

1. Where did the matter come from? 2. Where did the laws come from? Gravity, centrifugal force, inertia, etc 3. Where did the energy come from? 4. Does Berkeley have a merry-go-round?

Phase 1

Phase 2 30 MPH

Phase 3 60 MPH

Stop! Stop!

Phase 4 100 MPH

Conservation of Angular Momentum

Conservation of Angular Momentum


This (Angular Momentum) would have caused the sun to spin very rapidly. Actually, our sun spins very slowly, while the planets move very rapidly around the sun. In fact, although the sun has over 99% of the mass of the solar system, it has only 2% of the angular momentum. This pattern is directly opposite to the pattern predicted for the nebular hypothesis.
Dr. H. Reeves The Origin of the Solar System, in The Origin of the Solar System, Dermott, S.F. Ed. John Wiley & Sons, New York p. 9, 1978.

The ultimate origin of the solar systems angular momentum remains obscure. Well-known solar-system Evolutionist scientist, Dr. Stuart Ross Taylor, Solar
System Evolution: A New Perspective, Cambridge University Press, p. 53, 1992.

One of the detailed problems is then to explain how the Sun itself acquires nearly 99.9% of the mass of the solar system but only 2% of its angular momentum.
Frank D. Stacey, Physics of the Earth, 1969, p. 4

Venus, Uranus and possibly Pluto rotate backwards from the other 6 planets.

We have some theories about how the spin of Venus may have been pulled into sync with Earth. Unfortunately, they dont really work, at least not yet.
David Harry Grinspoon, Assistant Professor of Astrophysical and Planetary Sciences, University of Colorado, From Venus Revealed, 1997, p. 204 *

8 of the 91 moons rotate backwards. Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune have moons Saturns moons orbiting in both directions.
Astronomical Almanac for the year 1989 (Wash. DC U.S. Government Printing Office, 1989) p. E88

CHEMISTRY MYSTERIES
98% OF THE SUN IS HYDROGEN OR HELIUM

LESS THAN 1% OF MERCURY, VENUS, EARTH, AND MARS IS HYDROGEN OR HELIUM

Why are the nine planets so different from each other and from the sun?

Some galaxies spin backwards.

Feb 11, 2002 CNN.com

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Genesis 1:1

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,* and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. *Big Bang

2 Peter 3:10

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Why would God send His son to die for a world that was created by a big bang and evolved by natural causes?

John 3:16

If the big bang theory were true the matter would be evenly distributed. Instead it is lumpy. There are clusters of stars then great voids. The big bang is a big dud.
See Creation Ex Nihilo Dec. 99, p. 8

I have little hesitation in saying that a sickly pall now hangs over the big bang theory.
Sir Fred Hoyle, astronomer, cosmologist, and mathematician, Cambridge University, The Big Bang Theory Under Attack, Science Digest, Vol. 92 May 1984, p. 84

For much more on the problems with the big bang theory See: The Evolution Cruncher p. 68. Available from CSE $5

And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest; and They all shall wax old as doth a garment;
Hebrews 1:10 & 11 and PS. 102:26, Is 51:6

Housewife waking up

Sue at 20

Sue at 90

Sue at 3000

Total Disorder !

Another way of stating the second law is, The universe is constantly getting more disorderly. Viewed that way we can see the second law all about us. We have to work hard to straighten out a room, but left to itself it becomes a mess again very quickly and very easily. Even if we never enter it, it becomes dusty and musty. How difficult to maintain houses, and machinery, and our own bodies in perfect working order; how easy to let them deteriorate. In fact, all we have to do is nothing, and everything deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, wears out, all by itselfand that is what the second law is all about.
Issac Asimov, In the Game of Energy and Thermodynamics You Cant Even Break Even, Smithsonian Institution Journal, June 1970 p. 6

Heat loss from building

HBJ Earth Science, 1989 p. 356

Evolutionists assume that adding energy (open system) will overcome the 2nd law of thermodynamics. 1.The universe is a closed system. 2. Adding energy is destructive without a complex mechanism to harness the energy.

The Japanese added lots of energy to Pearl Harbor in 1941 and did not organize anything!

We added lots of energy to Japan to end WW II and did not organize anything!

We added lots of energy to Japan to end WW II and did not organize anything!

The suns energy will destroy your roof.

The suns energy will destroy your entire house.

And your Upholstery! The suns energy will destroy your vinyl top.

The suns energy will destroy your paint job.

Only a very complex molecule called chlorophyll can harness the suns energy. One leaf cell is more complex than a city.

Evolution theory violates the second law and is wrong.

Holt Science 1989 Starfish-human ancestors

Holt Earth Science, 1989 p. 294

Holt Science 1989 Starfish-human ancestors

November, 2004

Discover, November, 2004 p. 64

1989

HBJ General 1989 p. 385

Tarsier 30 million years

Translation: Long ago and far away A fairy tale is coming next.
HBJ General Science 1989 p. 385

HBJ General 1989 p. 385

Tarsier 30 million years

Grandpa?

Barbara Reynolds article find and scan

Barbara Reynolds article find and scan

You are an animal and share a common heritage with earthworms.

Biology: Visualizing Life, Holt, 1994

We teach the students they are animals. What effect does this have?

We will cover that in the next session.

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CREATION SCIENCE EVANGELISM

You are an animal and share a common heritage with earthworms.

Biology: Visualizing Life, Holt, 1994

But he that sinneth Love Death against me wrongeth his own soul; all they that hate me love death.
- Proverbs 8:36

Punk rockers

Kids are being taught that there are no absolutes!

Thus saith the Lord...


That is absolute!
413 times in Bible

Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:28

Many people do not seem to know, or do not care what Gods Word says

Holt General Science Teachers Edition, 1988, p. 381

Many teachers blindly follow the textbook never realizing they can teach creation if they wish.

Impact cover 196

Available from Institute for Creation Research (619) 448-0900

See Seminar part 5 for lots more.

Two states, Arkansas and Louisiana, passed laws requiring creation to be taught. Both were struck down.

The court only said the states cannot require that creation be taught.

It has never been against the law to teach creation. no statute exists in any state to bar instruction in creation science. It could be taught before, and it can be taught now.
Stephen Jay Gould, The Verdict on Creationism, New York Times July 19, 1987, p. 34

The ACLU wants teachers to believe they cannot teach creation in public schools. This is not true but just the threat of a suit often causes school principals to tell their teachers not to discuss creation even though they have the right to do it.
Communism is the goal. * -Roger Baldwin, founder of the ACLU.
www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/unitarian/baldwin_r.html

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6

Jesus

My brethren, be not many masters [teachers], knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
James 3:1

Indoctrination in Evolution
Number
of

Words

Before and after Federal Funding Indoctrination chart 1963 33,089 words
1961 26,819 words

2-3,000 words
Source: Educational Research Analysts, (903) 753-5993

1950

1960

1970

1980

Americans were taught that the Soviets were ahead of us in science because they taught evolution. Americans panicked and built bomb shelters.
Life Magazine Sept. 15, 1960

1959, 100 year anniversary of Darwins book.

In 1959 President Eisenhower asked congress for $1 billion for the Department of Health Education & Welfare new American Education Fund for the promotion and publication of the new science of Evolution. $10,500,000 was given to the National Science Foundation (NSF) for the new 9 part theme curriculum, teaching evolution. The NSF provided the Biological Sciences Curriculum Study (BSCS) with the funds to provide the textbooks to public schools.
Sources: The Changing Classroom: The Role Of The Biological Sciences Curriculum Study, Arnold B. Grobman, Doubleday & Co., NY 1969, pp 204, 26, 170, 200, 172; Scientists In The Classroom, pp 107, 109; Cornerstone Ministry 800-633-4369, Planekit@aol.com, Mr. Norris Anderson; CSS FreySci@aol.com.

Scientists In The Classroom, Cornerstone Ministry 800-633-4369, Planekit@aol.com, Mr. Norris Anderson; CSS FreySci@aol.com.

Indoctrination in Evolution
Number
of

Words

Before and after Federal Funding Indoctrination chart 1963 33,089 words
1961 26,819 words

2-3,000 words
1950 1960

The decline since 1963 reflects the overall downward trend of textbook content. The percentage of text devoted to evolution has not diminished.

Source: Educational Research Analysts, (903) 753-5993

1970

1980

Madeline Murray OHare

Percentage of teen girls who have had premarital sex


Data from Are You ready for the New World Order by Carl Sanders p. 13 70 60 50 40 30 20 10 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 15 yr. olds 16 yr. olds

1963

18 yr. olds

17 yr. olds

70 60 50 40 30 20 10 0

Sexually Transmitted Diseases


Gonorrhea: Ages 10-14, Up 385% 1963

1955

1970

1985

Source: Center for Disease Control and Department of Human Resources

35

Birth Rates for Unwed Girls 10-14 Years of Age


Birth rates up 100% 1963

30

25

20

15

10

Pregnancies up 553%!
1960 1970 1980
Source: Dept. of Health and Human Resources and Statistical Abstracts of the United States

1950

Fatherless homes account for:

53% of teen mothers 63% of youth suicides 71% high school dropouts 85% of youths in prison 90% of homeless/runaway children

To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
God will use any who ask. Timothy was a half-breed.

2 Timothy 1:2

3.5

Unmarried Couples Living Together

725% increase
1963
Prior to 1977, Unmarried Couples living together was such a small group that data on this group was collected only in the 10-year census.

Total Couples (in Millions)

2.5

1.5

0.5

60 70 77

80

Source: Statistical Abstracts of the United States

90

Thou shalt not commit adultery.


Exodus 20:14

whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.


Hebrews 13:4

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matthew 5:28

Divorces per 1,000 total population

Divorce Rates
1963
As of 1998: Ave length of US marriages 7.2 years. 50+% 1st marriages end in divorce. 68% of 2nd marriages end in divorce.

1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 Source: US National Center for Health Statistics, Vital Statistics of the United States

1963
Before Evolution was taught in schools After Evolution theory started being taught in schools as science.

1963
Before Evolution was taught in schools After Evolution theory started being taught in schools as science.

2000 1800 1600 1400 1200 1000 800 600 400 200 0

Violent Crime Offenses


Up 995% 1963

Population Growth

1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 Source: Statistical Abstracts of the United States, and the Dept. of Commerce, Census Bureau

There have been nearly 20 school shootings in the last few years!

April 20, 1999

1000 980 960 940 920 900 880 860 840

SAT Total Scores

1963

1960

1970

1980

1990

Source: College Entrance Exam Board

Newspaper article (SATs) from slide

Chicago Tribune, April 9, 1995

12 10 8 6 4 2 0

Teen Suicide Rate


1963

1960

1965

1970

1975

1980

1985

1990

Source: National Center for Health Statistics

Mrs. Hamilton kissing frog

Shelly and frog Hamilton

Mrs. Hamilton kissing Ron Hamilton

Shelly and Ron Hamilton aka. Patch the Pirate

Prince

Grandpa

Ameba

If a frog turns into a Handsome Prince Quickly

If a frog turns into a Handsome Prince Slowly

Holt Earth Science, 1989, p. 502

Were you there?


Harcourt 4th Grade Science 2000, p. c 58

Sci-ence n. [< scire, to know] 1. Systematized knowledge derived from observation, study, etc. Websters Dictionary

What do Americans Believe?


Gallup poll 2-91
Mobile Press 3-95 CBS Nov. 22, 04

MSNBC 3-19-05

God created the earth in the last 10,000 years. God guided the evolution of man. Pure evolution- no God involved. Dont know or did not answer.

47% 61% 55% 57% 40% 30% 27% 9% 4% 4% 6% 13%


33%

5% 10%

2000 p.299

55% of US natural scientists believe in Darwinian evolution.


Washington Times Aug. 31, 1998

Geocentric vs Heliocentric

For 2000 years it was taught that Weights falling from heavy objects fall faster than Tower light ones. Galileo proved all objects fall at the same speed in a vacuum.

Pisa

In 1799 George Washington was bled twice by his doctors before he died. They believed in the doctrine of humors.

For the life of the flesh is in the blood:


Leviticus 17:11

Scuba divers

When did the boat sink?


Coins and dates 1750 1710 1695

picture of toe bone next to ruler


Made by a dinosaur in 70 million B.C. In Taiwan

Brachiosaurus toe bone

How old is the earth?


H

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Genesis 1:1

For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth
Colossians 1:16a

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Adam and Eve Matthew 19:4

But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Mark 10:6

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5:12

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Adams sin also affected plants and animals See: Gen. 3 17-19 (Cursed is the Ground-Thorns ext). Rom 8: 18-22:

1 Corinthians 15:21 & 22

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:45

And Adam called his wifes name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Genesis 3:20

And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, (130) and begat a son and called his name Seth:
Genesis 5:3

And Seth lived an hundred and five years, (105) and begat Enos:
Genesis 5:6

And Enos lived ninety years, (90) and begat Cainan:


Genesis 5:9

130+105+90+70+65+162+.=4000 B.C.

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I dont say it was 4004 B.C. Oct. 23, 2 p.m.

Almost all new textbooks say it is B.C.E. Before the Common Era.
Scofield Reference Bible 1909

Textbooks say the earth is billions of years old.

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning* made them male and female,
*Was Jesus lying? Did he not understand modern science? Or was he right?

Matthew 19:4

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Genesis 1:1

And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Hebrews 1:10

When was the beginning? *

Could this date be correct?


Scofield Reference Bible 1909
Atheists often ask me...

Who did Adams sons marry?

And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
(it does not say he found her there)

Genesis 4:16 & 17

SETH

+ ?

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Those who believe in evolution have a very serious problem with this issue!

Prentice Hall 18 to 20 billion

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992, page 61

Glenco Biology 1995 p. 398

Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 281

Earth evolving (Atlas)

Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 282

in these oceans the first Living Organisms appeared.


Glenco Biology 1995 p. 398

Source: University of Bath Date: 2005-08-16

Scientists Crack 40-year-old DNA Puzzle And Point To 'Hot Soup' At The Origin Of Life A new theory that explains why the language of our genes is more complex than it needs to be also suggests that the primordial soup where life began on earth was hot and not cold, as many scientists believe.
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/08/050814170410.htm

Biology The Unity and Diversity of Life Wadsworth 1992 p. 301

Evolutionists Time Line


20,000,000,000 Big Bang

Grandpa?

Dog breeds

Evolutionists Time Line


20,000,000,000 Big Bang

Who did Adams sons marry?

And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
Genesis 5:4

And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
Genesis 5:4

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My friend, Jim Bob Duggar has 15 kids in 15 years. He was an Arkansas State Representative

Adams sons married sisters.


1. There is no other choice. (No one would have thought it was wrong). 2. Who would you report them to? (They were the only people in the world). 3. There were no laws against it until 2500 years later. There was no need for the law till then. See: Lev. 18:6-18 4. Adam married his rib!

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6) she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat 23) Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden,
Genesis 3:6 & 23

Flood
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And Pharaoh said unto Jacob, How old art thou? And Jacob said unto Pharaoh, The days of the years of my pilgrimage are an hundred and thirty years: few and evil have the days of the years of my life been, and have not attained unto the days of the years of the life of my fathers in the days of their pilgrimage.

Genesis 47:8 & 9

Flood
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Textbooks say the earth is billions of years old.

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning* made them male and female, *Was Jesus lying? Was he stupid? Or was he right?
Matthew 19:4

Holt Earth Science, 1989, p. 502

Merrill 4th Grade Science, 1989, p. 116

4.6 billion years ago.


Glenco Biology 1995 p.398

Hugh Ross, Don Stoner, Gerald Schroeder, Navigators, James Dobson, Dakes and Schofield Study Bibles, Pat Robertson, John Ankerburg, Benny Hinn, John Hagee, Lee Stroble, Hank Hannegraff, Chuck Colson, Norman Geisler, Billy Graham
Be sure to see our 5 hour video debate series with Dr. Ross.

Some who teach the earth is billions of years old:

This teaching clearly puts death before sin. The question is simple: did man bring death into the world or did death bring man into the world? Much more on that heresy on video #2 or CSE 101!
Merrill 4th Grade Science 1989, p. 116

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses,


Romans 5:14

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1 Corinthians 15:21 &22

Who cares about the age of the earth?


1. The credibility of the book of Genesis is at stake.
Can the average person read it and understand or do we need a Guru to lead us?

2. The credibility of Jesus is at stake. (Jesus cited Genesis 25 times see


Defenders Bible p. 1556)

3. Nearly every other book in the Bible refers to Genesis. 200x in New Testament
alone see Defenders Bible p. 1545-1556.

4. The evolutionists care. Their entire theory looks silly without billions of years to hide it in.

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
John 5:46-47

There are numerous scientific ways to show the universe is not billions of years old.

July 24, 1999 Star Tribune Minneapolis, Minn.

Billions of souls

Human Population Chart

1 billion in 1810

Merrill Earth Science 1993 p. 503

Is the world overcrowded?


National Geographic Oct. 1999 Thomas Malthuss Essay on the Principle of Population had a great influence on Darwin.

Over 25 billion square feet

New Mexico, Sept. 2004

If its overcrowded where you are:

Move!

See also: Scientific Creationism P. 167,

Billions of souls

Human Population Chart

Human Population Chart

150,000 people per square inch! That would be crowded!


M

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish (fill) the earth,
[have lots of kids!]

Genesis 1:28

For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Isaiah 45:18

In order to stabilize world population we must eliminate 350,000 people per day.
Jacques Cousteau
Demanding Accountability United Nations Development Fund for Women. 1994, p. 84-85

A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.
Ted Turner- CNN

Human Population in Billions


7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 2000

Goal of NWO

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And the LORD God said unto the serpent (Satan), Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Genesis 3:14

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Genesis 3:15

Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under,
Matthew 2:16

People are the cause of all the problems; we have too many of them; we need to get rid of some of them, and this (ban of DDT) is as good a way as any.
Charles Wurster, Environmental Defense Fund

Convention on Biological Diversity Signed by Bill Klinton, United States in New York June 4, 1993. Section 9.2,3,2 claims

that we must either reduce the earths human population to 1 billion or reduce the standard of living to an agrarian peasant status.
Platform for United Nations urban-ecological summit held in Istanbul, Turkey, June 1996

Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the JudeoChristian religious tradition.
Peter Singer, professor at Princeton, favors killing babies up to 28 days old. The father of animal rights. AP Nov. 22, 1999 See: http://www.geocities. com/Athens/Agora/2900/psai.html

The world has cancer, and the cancer is man.


Alan Gregg, Mankind at The Turning Point 1974. He was a longtime official for the Rockefeller Foundation.

If I could be reincarnated, I would wish to return to Earth as a killer virus* to lower human population levels.
Prince Philip, (husband of Queen Elizabeth) President-World Wildlife Fund Major investor in ADM- Majority % of world food distribution.

See how Monsanto and other companies have tried to corner the market on food production w/GM foods that have been banned in Europe. 70% of US processed foods contains GM foods.

see: www.chemtrails911.com

Food is power, we use it to control behavior, we do not apologize.


Catherine Bertino, Exec. Dir., UN Food distribution. From a UN speech Sept. 14, 1997

*See Emerging Viruses by Dr. Len Horowitz. Every person in the military or considering having their children vaccinated needs to read this info. Learn what really caused Gulf war syndrome etc. 1-800-336-9266 www.tetrahedron.org www.billsardi.com www.vaclib.org
Both available from CSE

More than 22,000 reports of hospitalizations and injuries, including 300 deaths, following hepatitis B vaccinations have been reported since 1996? to the governments Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.
The Eagle Forum, Spring 2000 p.1

See also Marytocco.com 231-377-7002

I found that the whole vaccine business was indeed a gigantic hoax. Most doctors are convinced that they are useful, but if you look at the proper statistics and study the instances of these diseases you will realize that this is not so . . You cannot immunize sick children, malnourished children, and expect to get away with it. Youll kill far more children than would have died from natural infection.-Dr Kalokerinos MD

....There is growing suspicion that immunization against relatively harmless childhood diseases may be responsible for the dramatic increase in autoimmune diseases since mass inoculations were introduced. These are fearful diseases such as cancer, leukemia, rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, Lou Gehrigs disease, lupus erthematosus, and the Guillain-Barre syndrome.-Dr. Mendelsohn, M.D.

Dr. Hovind, We have a son that has been damaged by the MMR vaccine. He lost his ability to walk, talk and feed himself. The government has a fund that compensates for injuries due to vaccines. Our 8 year old Joshua has won this. (National Vaccine Injury Program). This business of Shots for Tots is aimed at seeing to it that children under 2 are fully vaccinated by their doctors offices. You would not believe what is going on in this area. After studying this for the last 4 years, Satan is seeing to it that well meaning parents are destroying their babies immune system by putting over 22 viruses into their system before they are two. www.909shot.com/anna

Howard Urnovitz, Ph.D.* believes HIV is a monkey hybrid virus that was in the polio vaccine given to 26 million Americans between 1955-1961 in the form of a sugar cube.
Degree in Microbiology- U. of Mich. Medical School, Department of Pathology at Washington University, Director of Molecular and Cellular Engineering at XOMA Corp. Senior Scientist at the Institute of Cancer, Medical Research Institute of San Fransisco, Developed the cat vaccine against feline leukemia.

From Marytocco.com 231-377-7002

Autism
State Illinois Indiana Iowa Kentucky Maryland Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri 1992-1993 5 273 67 38 28 288 296 0 336 2001-2002 3802 3262 554 1022 2,396 4,719 3,270 461 1,953 % increase 75,940% 1,095% 727% 2,589% 8,457% 1,538% 1,005% ******** 481%

From Marytocco.com 231-377-7002

America has the highest rate of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome among industrialized nations. In 1970 Australia made vaccines non-mandatory. 50% of the parents opted out of the program. SIDS dropped 50% that year. www.marytocco.com

Dr. William Torch of the University of Nevada School of Medicine at Reno said that two-thirds of the SIDS babies had been vaccinated with DPT in the preceding three weeks. www.marytocco.com

7+ miles N. of Elberton GA on Hwy 77, 100 yards off the road on the right, are the Georgia Guide stones. erected March 22, 1980 by the Masonic Lodge.

The Cherokee Indians called this place ALYEHLI which means Center of the Universe

These stones have The Ten Commandments of the New Age

#1. Maintain Humanity Under 500,000,000 (1/2 billion) in Perpetual Balance with Nature. (These stones are full of Masonic symbols) see: www.radioliberty.com And cuttingedge.org

For lots more on the New World Order plans to reduce the world population see our college class CSE 101.
We cover the entire seminar in CSE 101-104

Call the office for details. 850-479-DINO (3466) www.drdino.com

Human Population Chart

H H

Billions of souls

Regardless of the future, the current population shows only 4400 years of growth.

Based on DNA studies, scientists are now putting forth the theory that there was a catastrophe 70,000 years ago that reduced the human population to a few thousand creating a genetic bottle neck. They propose that a volcano caused this near extinction of mankind. Discover Channel, May 12, 2002

Galaxy find and scan make it spin

Impact #384

Eta Carinae

Super nova
Astronomers have observed that about every 30 years a star dies and explodes into a super nova.* If the universe is billions of years old, how come there are less than 300 super nova (dead stars)? There should be several hundred million of them. Are the stars wrong, or the evolution theory?
*ICR september, 1998

Some try to say they have proof of stars forming. They point to spots getting brighter. Obviously this could just be dust clearing and a star behind showing through.

Textbooks say Red Giant Stars evolve into white dwarf stars over billions of years.
Prentice Hall Earth Science 1995

1. Egyptian hieroglyphs from 2000 B.C. described Sirius as red. 2. Cicero, in 50 B.C., stated Sirius was red. 3. Seneca described Sirius as being redder than Mars. 4. Ptolemy listed Sirius as one of the six red stars in 150 A.D. Today it is a white star-binary. Textbooks say it should take billions of years for this to happen.
Its a Young World Paul Ackerman

Jupiter is cooling off.

Jupiters moon Ganymede has a strong magnetic field. Magnetic fields are generated by the liquid motion of molten metal inside a body. Yet Ganymede should have cooled solid billions of years ago.
Denver Post Dec. 13, 1996 Jupiter Probe detects mysterious moon dust. By K.C. Cole

Holt Earth Science 1994 p. 579

Saturns rings Saturns rings

See Its a Young World After All by Paul Ackerman. Also In the Beginning by Walt Brown p. 29 & 69 CSE- $24.50

Saturns rings are unstable and cannot be billions of years old.

Available from ICR (619) 448-0900

Receding moon drawing from Impact

The Inverse Square Law:


D The force of attraction between two objects is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

The Inverse Square Law:


D If the distance is 1/3, the force of attraction between two objects is 9 times greater. 1/3 inverted is 3/1. 32 = 9

Recession of the Moon

Distance from Earth


1.4 bya 1.0 bya

today

Time

This fact alone puts the age of the Earth/Moon system at less than 1.2 billion year max.
In the Beginning by Walt Brown, available from CSE www.creationscience.com

That explains what happened to the tall dinosaurs. They got Mooned to death!

Short period comets are losing material and have a life expectancy of less than 10,000 years.
R.A. Littleton, Mysteries of the Solar System (Oxford, England: Clarendon Press, 1968), p. 110

If your outgo exceeds your income, Your upkeep will be your downfall!

But once so deflected [into short period comets], these comets must have comparatively short lifetimes, astronomically speaking, and probably no short period comet can survive more than about 10,000 years. R.A. Littleton, Mysteries of the Solar System (Oxford, England: Clarendon Press, 1968), p. 110

Short period comets are losing material and have a life expectancy of less than 10,000 years. Why are they still here?

Matson devoted an entire web site to me. There are now over 1000 anti-Hovind web sites. I answer the skeptics, all phone calls and scores of emails on my world wide radio program from 4:30-6 CST, M-F at www.truthradio.com or www.drdino.com
call 850-479-3466 ext 136 to join us.

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In 1950, based on a study of the orbits of several longperiod comets, the Dutch astronomer Jan Oort proposed (hoped, wished, prayed) that a great spherical shell of (comets*) existed at the remote frontiers of our solar system.
Matson

*To replace ones that burn out.

Better statistics in more recent years have supported the existence of the Oort cloud and put it at a distance of 50,000 AU (AU=astronomical units).
From Matsons web site answer to my young earth arguments.

Pluto is 39 AU from the sun and cannot be seen without a powerful telescope. Seeing a comet at 50,000 AU is impossible!
Prentice Hall Earth Science 1991 p. 73

No one has ever seen the Oort cloud. It is hard to see a comet 1 AU from earth. Oort never saw the Oort cloud! Oort proposed a cloud of comets surrounding the solar system based on mathematical errors.
See Raymond Littleton, The Non-existence of the Oort Cometary Shell. Astrophysics and Space Science, Vol. 31, December 1974, pp. 385-401

Many Scientific papers are written each year about the Oort Cloud, its properties, its origin, its evolution. Yet there is not yet a shred of direct observational evidence for its existence.
Comet 1997, p. 148 Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan, p. 210

Matson said, Sorry fellas, but if you want to use this comet argument it is up to you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Oort cloud and other sources dont exist!
From Matsons answer to my young earth arguments.

Suppose I said, Watermelons are blue inside until you cut the skin. Prove Im wrong! This is called shifting the burden of proof.

Matson said, Sorry fellas, but if you want to use this comet argument it is up to you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Oort Cloud and other sources dont exist!
From Matsons answer to my young earth arguments.

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Psalm 19:1

Evolutionary theory has the sun and stars evolving before the earth. God said He created earth before sun and stars.
Genesis 1

Does the Bible match evolution?


Bible
1. Earth before sun 2. Oceans before land 3. Light before sun 4. Land plants first 5. Fruit trees before fish 6. Fish before insects

Evolution

1. Sun before earth 2. Land before oceans 3. Sun before light 4. Marine life first 5. Fish before fruit trees. 6. Insects before fish

Does the Bible match evolution?


Bible
7. Plants before sun 8. Marine mammals before land mammals 9. Birds before reptiles 10. Atmosphere between two layers of water 11. Man brought death into the world 12. God created man

Evolution

7. Sun before plants 8. Land mammals before


marine mammals

9. Reptiles before birds 10. Atmosphere above water 11. Death brought man into the world 12. Man created God

Couldnt God have used evolution to create? The god that would use evolution is cruel, wasteful and retarded. He is not the God of the Bible!

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
Psalm 8:3

While I was musing the fire burned:


Psalm 39:3

I remember the days of old; I meditate on all thy works; I muse on the work of thy hands.
Psalm 143:5

A theist is a person who believes in God. An Atheist is a person who does not believe in God. To Muse means to think. To Amuse means to not think!

Amusement Parks

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
Psalm 8:3

What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Psalm 8:4

Its been estimated that there are enough stars for every individual on earth to own 11 trillion of them.

Continuous Viewing Zone An area 1/30 the size of the full moon, or about the size of a grain of sand held at arms length, was stared at for ten straight days.

More stars were seen in this small area than could be counted!

Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
Job 12:8

Magnets lose their strength with time.

The Earths magnetic field is getting weaker. 1. It cannot be billions of years old.- 25,000 max. 2. Carbon dating cannot work for more than a few thousand years. See video #7 and
Impact # 189 for more on C14

Earths magnetic strength has declined 10% in the last 150 years and 40% in the last 1,000 years.*
Astronomy and the Bible Donald DeYoung, p. 18
See ICRs Impact # 188 & 242 for more on this. Also Scientific Creationism by Henry Morris p. 157, (619)-448-0900 and

K.L. McDonald and R.H Gunst, An analysis of earths magnetic field from 183 to 1965, ESSA Technical Report, IER 46-IES 1, US Government Printing Office, Washington, 1967

The lower leg of the Fairbanks Creek mammoth had a radiocarbon age of 15,380 RCY (radio carbon years), while its skin and flesh were 21,300 RCY.
Harold E. Anthony, Natures Deep Freeze, Natural History, Sept. 1949, p. 300,
See also: In the Beginning Walt Brown p. 124

One part of the Vollosovitch mammoth carbon dated at 29,500 years and another part at 44,000.
Troy L. Pewe, Quaternary Stratigraphic Nomenclature in Unglaciated Central Alaska, Geological Survey Professional Paper 862 (U.S. Gov. printing office, 1975) p. 30

Textbooks will say there are magnetic reversals in the rock.

There are no magnetic Reversals on the ocean floor. There are only areas of Weaker magnetism.

Merrill Earth Science 1993 p. 343

What they dont tell you:


1. Africa has been shrunk 35-40% to make them fit. 2. Mexico and Central America are gone.

Where is: Mexico? Panama? Costa Rica? Guatemala? Honduras? Belize? Nicaragua?
McGraw Hill Earth Science, 1973, p. 228

#4 If you take the water out of the oceans you will notice there is dirt underneath.

The earth has a solid crust. It is not hollow under the oceans!
Holt Earth Science 1994 p.18

More about pangaea on seminar part 6

Pensacola News Journal, 12/6/1990

Time to Kill Earths Rotation is slowing down. To compensate for this lagging motion, June will be one second longer than normal. This Leap Second announced by the International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in close alignment with international time.
-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Time to Kill Earths Rotation is slowing down. To compensate for this lagging motion, June will be one second longer than normal. This Leap Second announced by the International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in close alignment with international time.
-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Time to Kill Earths Rotation is slowing down. To compensate for this lagging motion, June will be one second longer than normal. This Leap Second announced by the International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in close alignment with international time.
-Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p. 24

Past leap seconds: Jan. 1973 Jan. 1974 Jan. 1975 Jan. 1976 Jan. 1977 Jan. 1978 Jan. 1979 Jan. 1980 July 1981 July 1982 July 1983 July 1985 Jan. 1988 Jan. 1990 Jan. 1991 July 1992 July 1993 July 1994 Jan. 1996 International Earth Rotation Service

Astronomy June, 1994

The spin of the earth causes the Coriolis effect.


Prentice Hall Earth Science 1995, p. 499

The Sahara Desert has a prevailing wind pattern.


This causes the desert to grow. The process is called desertification.

HBJ Earth Sci

1300 miles

About 4000 years old.


See: Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany. July 15, 1999 Geophysical Research Letters.

HBJ Earth Science, 1989, p. 277

Creationists Time Line


4400 (4000 BC) years ago Creation Flood
6000 YA

Jesus Birth

2000

HBJ Earth Sci

1300 miles

About 4000 years old.


See: Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany. July 15, 1999 Geophysical Research Letters.

HBJ Earth Science, 1989, p. 277

Oil wells can have up to 20,000 psi!

This is way above the weight of overburden rock.

The rock can only hold that pressure for 10,000 years or less.

See: Creation Ex Nihilo Vol 12 No. 2, p. 30 for How fast can oil form?

Oil and gas are from organisms that once lived in the sea. changed by heat and pressure into oil.
Holt General Science, 1988, p. 294. See also Journal of Petroleum Geology Leigh Price 1983 p. 32 for oil in 1000-10,000 years! And How
Fast can Oil Form by Andrew Snelling 1990, Creation Ex Nihilo, 12(2):30; and Impact #155

See: Creation Ex Nihilo Vol 12 No. 2, p. 30 for How fast can oil form? Also Converting Organic Wastes to Oil, by Hadden R. Appell, US Dept. of Interior, Bureau of mines. 1971 for oil being made in 20 minutes.

In 1996 a $22.4 million proposal was approved in Western Australia that will build a plant to create oil from sewage sludge in 30 minutes.
See Creation/Evolution: Does it Matter what we Believe? By Mike Riddle, ICR, p. 28

Anything to Oil
Technological savvy could turn 600 million tons of turkey guts and other waste into 4 billion barrels of light Texas crude each year.
By Brad Lemley Discover Vol. 24 No 5 (May 2003)

P.J. Samson, President of Renewable Energy Solutions

We duplicated what Mother Nature does, but what Mother Nature took millions of years to do, we do in about 30 minutes.

Sinclair gas and oil company uses the dinosaur as their logo. They say dinosaurs turned into oil.

Creationists Time Line


4400 (4000 BC) years ago Creation Flood
6000 YA

Jesus Birth

2000

Ark floating over dead animals

Goodbye Grandpa!

Denver, Colorado

A giant freezer to store the ice cores in the Federal Center in Denver, Colorado

Ice core drillings in Greenland

See Impact #226 From ICR 619-448-0900 for more. Prentice Hall Earth Science 1989, p. 297

Ancient Antarctic Ice studies in Denver lab


LAKEWOOD, Colo. (AP)---Ten ice core samples yanked from a remote Antarctic glacier are resting in a giant freezer here waiting to be tested
(National Ice Core Laboratory Denver, Colorado)

They told me the layers represented annual rings because in summer the top layer of snow melts and re-freezes as clear ice which shows up dark here. In winter the snow packs and shows up as a white layer.
Summer Winter Summer Winter Summer Winter

In Greenland and Antarctic, where the weather is consistently dry and very cold, the glaciers are miles thick but the annual rings are very thin. The deepest cores can measure over 10,000 feet cores from Greenland drilled since 1990 show the northern climate was erratic 135,000 years ago.

Creation ex nihilo June-Aug. 1997 p. 10

The planes landed in 1942 in Greenland

The lost squadron was covered by 263 feet of ice in 48 years!


Creation ex nihilo June - August 1997 p. 13 (800)-350-3232 The restoration of one P-38 was done in Middleboro, KY ph. 606-248-1149

Ice rings in Greenland The Lost Squadron p.188

Dismantling the P-38,


The Lost Squadron p. 178

Middlesboro, KY

1942 - 1990 = 48 years. The planes were 263 feet below the surface. Thats about 5.5 feet/year. 10,000 z 5.5 = 1,824 years . Deeper ice is pressed into finer layers so 4,400 years to accumulate the ice at the poles is no problem!
Note The planes do not sink in the ice due to pressure on the ice. Planes are nose heavy and would not be horizontal if they sank.

In April, 1999 I visited Bob Cardin at the museum in Middleboro, KY. (606)-248-1149. He helped dig out and restore the P-38. At 62 feet down they hit a plywood cover left by the 1983 expedition eight years years earlier! 8ft/yr!

He told me there were many hundreds of layers of ice above the planes when they dug them out!
4-18-01 Bob told me that 30-40 rings accumulated in 9 years. www.thelostsquadron.com*

This article still calls these ice core lines annual layers when they are from warm and cold spells.
Scientific American Feb. 1998 p. 82

Ignorance can be fixed.

Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!

Dr. Hovind, I got 15 layers of snow on my car in 8 hours! The Inuipt Indians (Alaska North Slope Eskimos) have 42 or 43 words for snow! Icy snow has its own word. So does powdery snow, and so on. Michael S. Pankion, michael@arctic.net

Cretaceous Jurassic Triassic Permian Carboniferous Devonian Silurian Ordovician Cambrian

A Textbook of Geology by Charles Schuchert, John Wiley & Sons, Inc. London p. 784

Joggins, Nova Scotia, Canada. 1997

This 30 foot petrified tree is one of hundreds found in the Kettles coal mines near Cookville, Tenn. The top and bottom are in different coal seams dated thousands of years different in age. www.bible.ca/tracks

Scientists estimate there are 20,000 trees in the bottom of Spirit Lake. Many of them are buried upright and some are already 15 feet deep in sediments. They seem to settle out by species giving the appearance of a complete forest.

Chopped Petrified wood in Arizonas Petrified Forest.


World Explorer
815-2536390 p. 65

A mother Ichthyosaur giving birth. Fossilization is not a slow process!


Creation Magazine 12-99, 1-800-350-3232

Petrified cowboy leg found in a dry creek bed near the West Texas town of Iraan, about 1980 by Mr. Jerry Stone, an employee of Corvette Oil company.
The bones of the partial leg and foot within the boot were revealed by an elaborate set of C.T. Scans performed at Harris Methodist Hospital in Bedford, Texas on July 24, 1997. The Radiologic Technician was Evelyn Americus, AART. A complete set of these scans remains with the boot at the Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas. 254-897-3200

Prentice Hall General Science, 1992 p. 145

See In the Beginning Walt Brown p. 24

30,000 years to accumulate the mud in the delta.

Creationists Time Line


4400 (4000 BC) years ago Creation Flood
6000 YA

Jesus Birth

2000

See In the Beginning Walt Brown p. 24

30,000 years to accumulate the mud in the delta.

Dr. Hovind, I am the pastor of Circle Baptist Church in Baker, LA. Recently you did a seminar at Comite Baptist which one of my young couples attended. They told you a story of an experience I encountered while working in the oil field where we drilled through a tree for over sixty feet almost 14,000 feet below the surface. I can tell you that it was in block 487 of the Mississippi River Canyon field and we were drilling for Chevron Oil Company. I was the on site unit manager for a well logging and sampling service. Dan Gunter, dgtulip@bellsouth.net (225) 775-1990

Bristle cone Pines grow very slowly! This log at the Dinosaur Adventure Land Museum is about 30 inches yet is over 700 years old!

Tree ring dating is not an exact science. Trees often produce more than one ring each year.
http://www.sonic.net/bristlecone/martyr.html

Tree ring dating is not an exact science. Overlapping tree ring dating has many serious problems and assumptions.

4300 would be the max. for this tree. It is probably younger. Some trees with more rings have now been counted but
the actual age of 4300 is more reasonable.
Allyn and Bacon Biology, 1977, p. 180,

Creationists Time Line


4400 (4000 BC) years ago Creation Flood
6000 YA

Jesus Birth

2000

The General Sherman tree was thought to be 5-6,000 years old. Tests showed only 2,000 rings!
Washington Post, Science section, date ?

Less than 4200 years old!

Holt Earth Science, 1989, p. 279

Canadian Side

Heath Earth Science 1994, p. 178

Crest lines showing recession of Horseshoe Falls since 1764. 865 feet in 185 years is approximately 4.7 feet per year.
Source: Niagara Falls Museum Guide

The falls are now here!

In 1841 Charles Lyell visited the falls. He said they were 10,000 years old based on 16/yr erosion. p. 179-182 *

See also: In the Minds of Men, by Ian Taylor, p. 83, available from CSE. See also Creation Ex Nihilo Sept-Nov, 2000 p. 8

A gorge about 7 miles long runs just below Niagara Falls. A simple calculation show that it has been 9900 years Holt Earth Science, 1984, p. 384

Niagara Map

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Jesus Birth

2000

Niagara Map

7.5 miles =39,600 feet. Divided by 4.7 feet/year =8426 years.


(They used 4 feet/year for the public school textbook not the actual 4.7.)

Holt Earth Science, 1989, p. 279

30%

Oceans today are 3.6% salt. They could have gone from fresh water to 3.6% salt in less than 5000 years. *
Holt Biology 1994, p. 225

Creationists Time Line


4400 (4000 BC) years ago Creation Flood
6000 YA

Jesus Birth

2000

Fresh Water Crocodile

Salt Water Crocodile

Changing from a fresh water crocodile to a salt water crocodile is a minor change compared to the evolution myth.

Changing from a fresh water crocodile to a salt water crocodile is a minor change compared to the evolution myth. They teach that a rock changed to a crock!

On 11-07-04 I met w/David Clifton of Oak Grove, AL (205-491-4918). He said he had worked with aquariums all his life. He took Black Mollys (fresh water fish) and slowly added sea salt to their aquarium. After just two weeks they had become salt water fish. When put back in fresh water they died in 30 minutes.
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According to self professed infidel Dave Matson, the Bulletin of the National Speleological Society (37: p.21, 1975) gave their observed growth rates as ranging from 0.1 to 10 centimeters [2.5 inches ] per thousand years.
And Moore and Sullivan (1978, p. 47) give an upper average rate of only a little more than 0.1 mm/year

Lincoln Memorial built 1922 photo 1960s *

Bat covered in flow-stone

National Geographic Magazine October 1953 p. 442 *

2 inches, 2000 years?

Refrigeration shed built 1926-1927 inside Fort Pickens in Pensacola, Florida

40 years in Indiana!

Picture taken in 1987 of level 5 of the lead mine at Mt. Isa, QL, Australia. The mine was 55 years old at time of photo.
Creation Magazine March-May 1998 p. 27 Note sign for Switch and miners

13 in. stalactite growing for 7 years under bld. 90747, the Oasis Caf at Hurlburt Field, FL. The building was opened in the fall of 1993.
Photo by David Fosse 850-244-8373.

On the floor under it this stalagmite was removed since it was a hazard to trip on.
Bld. 90747, the Oasis Caf at Hurlburt Field, FL. The building was opened in the fall of 1993.
Found by David Fosse 850-244-8373.

Mike Croft 6103 Wagon Bend Austin, TX 78744 Home 512-488-1639

2-17-03 Dear Dr. Hovind, These stalactites are growing in the garage of a private student condominium near UT campus at Austin Texas. The name of the condominium complex is Centennial Condos on the corner of 28th and Rio Grande. This structure was completed in October of 1997. They have had to put up tin attached to the beams of the garage in places so that stalagmites wouldnt grow on the kids cars!

Here is was a few decades later!

Me-61

Photo June 1998

100 year old flowstone formation in Thermopolis, Wyoming Liberty Magazine, May/June 1993, page 24

Fountain started a few years later down the street.


Me-61

At the current rate of erosion the continents would erode flat in 14 million years. How can we have rocks 300 times older than that still above sea level?

See In the Beginning by Walt Brown

Erosion features all over the earth show there was much greater erosion in the past-probably from Noahs flood.

Erosion features all over the earth show there was much greater erosion in the past-probably from Noahs flood. Zagros mountains

National Geographic August, 1999, p.113

the first developed systems of word writing appeared only about 5000 years ago. World Book Encyclopedia The oldest language that can reasonably be reconstructed is already modern, sophisticated, complete from an evolutionary point of view.
The Biological Nature of Man, G.G. Simpson Science, Vol. 152, April 22, 1966, p. 477.

The year 2000 was 4700 on the Chinese calendar. Maybe they started with the birth of Shem or Noah before the flood.
http://www.brokersys.com/~kcyong/cny.html For more on calendars see: Creation Ex Nihilo Feb. 2000, p. 46

The oldest recorded example of capital punishment is from th century BC the 18 or 3,800 years ago.
History Channel special aired 10-17-04

The oldest know cultures using agriculture are less than 5,000 years old.

Our year 2000 was the year 5760 on the Hebrew calendar.
The Jewish calendar is from the work of Rabbi Yose ben Halafta (died AD 160). 164 years was left out purposely to make the Daniel 9:25 prophesy point to Simon Bar Kokhba instead of Jesus.
Creation Magazine, Nov. 2004, p. 4
See: Appendix G of Annals of the World available from CSE

The Saxons in England had a genealogy going back to Adam. The Danes and Norwegian king lists go back to Noah.

Egyptian king lists are exaggerated as shown by Courvilles research (1956).


Evolution Cruncher p. 49

Why are the oldest reliable historical records less than 6000 years old?
*

Creationists Time Line


4400 (4000 BC) years ago Creation Flood
6000 YA

Jesus Birth

2000

Why arent students shown the evidence for the universe being young?

Science Book? Many modern textbooks are books about evolution not books about science.
Publishers are using our schools to spread their religion at our expense.

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75% of all children raised in Christian homes who attend public schools will reject the Christian faith by their first year of college.
Video-Let My Children Go
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He almost married Lottie find and scan Moon. (Famous Southern Baptist Missionary
to China)

Crawford H. Toy A great Southern Baptist seminary professor in 1876. Crawford Toy

Crawford H. Toy A great Southern Baptist seminary professor in 1876. Crawford Toy

find and scan


Professor Toy, was known as a brilliant linguist and theologian. Following the Civil War he had studied in Europe, where he was exposed to Darwinian theory and to the new ideas of the German scholars on Old Testament history and inspiration. Her conclusion was that evolution was for her an untenable position. Later in China, heated letters arrive, and The temptation is great. The professor, however, now espouses theories that do not square with God's Word. Rejecting C.H. Toy, Harvard, and glory, Miss Moon says, My cross is loneliness.
Inaugural Address, Furman University(1856)

The Bible intends to teach a plain six-day creation. The Bible is simply in error at that point.
Crawford H. Toy
Source: Baptists and the Bible, Moody Press page 229

A man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, turned left and jogged back home.

As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home. 1. Who were the masked men? 2. Why did he leave home jogging?

A man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, turned left and jogged back home.

As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home. 1. Who were the masked men? 2. Why did he leave home jogging?

A man left home jogging

Two masked men: The catcher and the umpire.

This is calling Jesus a liar!

I Can Read About Prehistoric Animals

Tiny Dinosaurs Little Golden Book

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Matthew 19:4

Did they really live to be 900+?


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What about dinosaurs?

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:8

How will he view the world after 12 or 16 years in your school system?

Created? Evolved?

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:1

The Bible is right about the beginning. It is right about the end also. Are you ready?

Lets summarize:

1. God made the world. 2. He owns it. 3. He makes the rules. 4. We are guilty of breaking Gods rules.

10 Commandments Ex. 20
1. No other Gods before me. 2. No graven images. 3. Dont take Gods name in vain. 4. Remember the Sabbath. 5. Honor your father and mother 6. Thou shalt not kill. 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. 8. Thou shalt not steal. 9. Thou shalt not bear false witness. 10. Thou shalt not covet.

Lets summarize:
1. God made the world. 2. He owns it. 3. He makes the rules (like the 10 commandments.) 4. We are guilty of breaking His rules.

5. We will be punished or

we must find a substitute to take our place. Jesus is willing and able.

The fire will not touch the ones in the water. Gods judgment will not hurt those in Christ.

Human Population in Billions


6 5 4 3 2 1 0 1930 1940 1950 1960 1970 1980 1990 1999

Goal of NWO

If you died today, where would you Smoking? go?


Non-Smoking?

You will be dead for a loooooong time!

All you have is a dash. Use it for God!

Bret

250 Honda scooter my staff bought me for my 50th birthday.

But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil:

1 Timothy 6:6-10

Some claim to be atheists. Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.
Available from CSE

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to usward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

2 Peter 3:9

What on earth are you doing for heavens sake?

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Old Earth vs. Young Earth

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


The first 3 days are not literal days without the sun.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


The first 3 days are not Ex. 20:11 puts all 7 days literal days without the as being the same. sun. Scores of other scriptures indicate a 6 day creation.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


The first 3 days are not Ex. 20:11 puts all 7 days literal days without the as being the same. sun. Scores of other scriptures indicate a 6 day creation. There is no closure (evening and morning) to the 7th day so it could be billions of years.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


The first 3 days are not Ex. 20:11 puts all 7 days literal days without the as being the same. Scores of other sun. scriptures indicate a 6 day creation. Ibid. The Hebrew calls for There is no closure Day 7. It is very literally a (evening and th day normal 24 hr. day. Many morning) to the 7 scriptures refer to The 7th so it day. The seventh day is could be billions of symbolic of Gods rest but it was a literal day in Gen. 1. years.
Were the Jews to work 6 days and take the rest of their life off?

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Science has proven the Earth is billions of years old.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Science has proven All evidence that says the Earth is billions of the Earth is billions of years old. years old is based on flawed logic. See Sem. 1

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Science has proven All evidence that says the Earth is billions of the Earth is billions of years old. years old is based on flawed logic. See Sem. 1 The death before sin only indicates human death. Adams sin did not effect creation.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Science has proven All evidence that says the Earth is billions of the Earth is billions of years old. years old is based on flawed logic. See Sem. 1 The death before sin only indicates human death. Adams sin did not effect creation.
Because of mans sin, plants grew thorns and thistles. Gen. 3:18. Abram sacrificed an innocent ram. Gen. 22. Scores of scripture references tell of natures suffering because of mans sin. Rom. 8:18-22.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old.
Gods word is the judge not majority opinion. History is replete with examples where the majority has been wrong.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old. This should not be a major divisive issue.
Gods word is the judge not majority opinion. History is replete with examples where the majority has been wrong.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


Many intelligent, godly men teach that the earth is billions of years old. This should not be a major divisive issue.
Gods word is the judge not majority opinion. History is replete with examples where the majority has been wrong. Then agree with me and there will be no division. Jesus always divides. See: Luke 21:51, Jn. 6:66

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 indicate a day may be a thousand years.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 Neither of these passages are talking about the indicate a day may be a creation. Both say thousand years. thousand not billion. Plants (day 3) cannot survive billions of years with with the sun (day 4) or insects (day 5).

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 Neither of these passages are talking about the indicate a day may be a creation. Both say thousand years. thousand not billion. Plants (day 3) cannot survive billions of years with with the sun (day 4) or insects (day 5).

God was using simple language to explain the creation for a simple people.

Old Earth vs. Young Earth


II Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 Neither of these passages are talking about the indicate a day may be a creation. Both say thousand years. thousand not billion. Plants (day 3) cannot survive billions of years with with the sun (day 4) or insects (day 5).

God was using simple language to explain the creation for a simple people.

This assumes ancient man was dumb and we need modern Gurus to tell us what Gods Word means. (Cults get started this way.)

Scratches on a space capsule porthole from the dust in space.

Lyttleton felt that x-rays and UV light striking exposed moon rocks could during the age of the moon be sufficient to form a layer over it several miles deep.
Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society of London Vol. 115, 1955, pp. 585-604

Issac Asimov (1959)

I get a picture, therefore, of the first spaceship, picking out a nice level place for landing purposes,

coming in slowly downward tailfirst and sinking majestically out of sight.


Issac Asimov, Science Digest, Jan., 1959 p. 36

Childrens book about going to the moon written in 1959.

There is just deep, gray dust. Dust, dust, dust.


You Will go to the Moon by Mae
and Ira Freeman Random House

Ranger and Surveyor space programs were sent to the moon to asses the dust problem. Evolution theory cost us billions of wasted dollars.

The landing pads were added and the legs lengthened because of concerns over the predicted layer of dust.

The ladder was 18 inches too short in anticipation of a thick dust layer.

The ladder was 18 inches too short in anticipation of a thick dust layer.

See Chicago Tribune, July 21, 1969 Sec. 1, p. 1; Its a Young World after All by Ackerman, p. 19. Also In The Beginning by Walt Brown p. 213. available from
CSE.

10-4 10-8 10-12 10-16 10-20 10-24 10-28

Cumulative Meteoritic Flux vs. Particle Mass

Published data Inferred data

10-32 10-13 10-7 10-1 105 1011 1017

Particle Mass (gm)

Only 1/67th of the moon dust is from space*. The actual measured amount of dust turned out to be 2.7 inches per million years or 1033 feet in 4.6 billion years.
In the Beginning by Walt Brown p. 214. CSE $17.50 *the rest is kicked up lunar soil.

In 1981, I had a conversation with Dr. Herbert A. Zook of the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). He had been intimately involved in estimating the thickness of the dust layer on the moon before the first Apollo moon landing. He also helped analyze the lunar material brought back from the moon. Of the many interesting things he told me and sent me by mail, one is critical in answering the above question.

NASA did not realize until the moon dust and rocks were analyzed that only one part in 67 (or 1.5%) of the debris on the moon came from outer space. The rest was pulverized moon rock. In hindsight, this makes perfect sense. Meteorites that strike the moon travel about seven times faster than a bullet-averaging 20 km/sec. When they strike the moon, they are not slowed down by an atmosphere (as on earth), because the moon has no atmosphere.

Therefore, the projectile, regardless of size, instantaneously vaporizes and kicks up a cloud of pulverized moon rock. The vaporized meteorite then condenses on the pulverized moon rocks. This was determined by slicing moon rocks and finding them coated by meteoritic materialmaterial rich in nickel. Uncoated moon rocks have practically no nickel. In this way, NASA arrived at the factor of 67.2
Center for Scientific Creation, In the Beginning by Walt Brown p. 214. CSE $17.50

What about dinosaurs?

Dinosaurs on the Ark?

Noah was 600 when he went into the ark.

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You are an animal and share a common heritage with earthworms.


Biology: Visualizing Life Holt, 1994

You will be told you are just an animal. Dont believe it. You were made in Gods image to have fellowship with Him.

Lets summarize

1. God made the world. 2. He owns it. 3. He makes the rules. 4. We are all guilty of breaking Gods rules.

10 Commandments Ex. 20
1. No other Gods before me. 2. No graven images. 3. Dont take Gods name in vain. 4. Remember the Sabbath. 5. Honor your father and mother 6. Thou shalt not kill. 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. 8. Thou shalt not steal. 9. Thou shalt not bear false witness. 10. Thou shalt not covet.

Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Ezekiel 18:4

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:23

For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
Psalm 5:4

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