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1IusethewordIT;
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thatcorrect?2ANo,IbelieveIreferredtomylackof3informationaboutITjokinglyearlier.4
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ThatflewbymeasIwastryingtotrack5theHousesystem.6AIhavegeneralcomputerknowledge.I7wenttocollegeandIknowhowtoworkcomputers8andknowExceland9
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Inmyworldthatmakesyouanexpert.10AOkay.11
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Myquestionislet'stalkaboutthis12exhibit25-1to3.Wheredidyouobtainthis13document,sir?14AIdon'thaveitinfrontofme.15
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WecallthemtheE-mailstreamsthatMr.16Krastekaskedyouabout?17AThosewouldhavebeengiventousasa18resultofasubpoena,grandjurysubpoenathat19wasissuedforE-mailcommunicationsasoneof20thecontacts.Whathappened--21
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Ididn't--22AWhathappenedistheyweresubsequently23providedinelectronicformandwhathappenedto24theminourforensicsunitistheyhadtoindex25thembydocumentandputintoasoftwaresystemDAUPHINCOUNTYCOURTREPORTERS
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WhatIammoreinterestediniswhogave3youthis?4AWhogaveustheactualE-mails?5
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Yes.6AItwasnegotiated--myunderstandingis7itwasnegotiatedthroughrepresentationfromthe8House.9
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SotheHouseDemocraticCaucusgaveyou10theE-mails?11ASpecificallyMr.Chadwickwouldhavebeen12involvedinthisprocess.13
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Whoisthat?14AHeisemployedby--he
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actuallyI15believeacontractualemployeefortheHouse.I16don'treallywantto--Idon'tknowspecifically17exact1ywhathisbackgroundis.IknowIlooked18athisWebpageandsoforthbutIdon'tfeel19comfortablegoingbythat.Heisemployedbythe20Caucusinsomecapacity.21
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Whenyousaythatitwasalsoprovidedto22youinanelectronicformat,doyoumeanitwas23onadisk?24ATheinitialE-mails,Ipersonallydon't25knowhowtheyweretransformedfromstepA,theDAUPHINCOUNTYCOURTREPORTERS
 
2671DITortheCaucus,ifyouwi11,toourcomputer2forensicpeople.Iamassumingitwas3electronic.Idon'tknowifitwasdiskform.I4wasn'tinvolvedinthatprocess.5
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Youcan'ttestifyunderoathheretoday6thattheseE-mailscamefromanycomputerin7particular?Youdon'thavetheIPaddressto8traceittoaparticularcomputer,correct?9ATheHousegavethemtousandthese10E-mailswereobtainedasaresultofthesystem11attheHouse.12
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That'snotmyquestion.Myquestionis13youdidn'tgototheparticularharddriveofMr.14Veon'scomputerorMissRosepink'scomputerand15youaslawenforcementdidnotretrievethese16E-mailsfromthoseharddrivesaccordingtoyour17testimony?18AIdidnotpersonallydothat,no.19
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Nordidanylawenforcementperson?It20wastheHouseDemocraticCaucusaccordingtoyour21testimony?22AAgainIwasnotinvolvedlntheprocess.23Thatismyunderstandingofhowittookplace.24Wehavehadalotofharddrives,alotof25differentthingsinvolvedhere.SotospeakDAUPHINCOUNTYCOURTREPORTERS
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