Who Says Christ is God?

A Refute

by D. J. Love, Minister General, T.S.N., S.B.C.

upgraded 1-17-2004
added to 5-20-2007

WHO SAYS JESUS CHRIST IS GOD?

According to those Christian ministers, who would have us all believe that
Jesus Christ is God, they say the following verses state that he is. However,
once we do a little research with a good concordance we can plainly see that
their interpretation is based upon wishful thinking, preconceived notions, a
willingness to accept a lie as the truth, a desire to ignore conflicting
scripture, and a strong lack of Spiritual understanding.

Please note that the True name of the Messiah is Y'shua (Yahushua, Yahshua
or Yeshua) and his true phonetic name will be used instead of Jesus Christ
(Ihsous) in all cases. This is done out of respect and not as an act of legalism.
Additionally, a True Worshipper must somehow make it known that he or
she does not adhere to the teachings of Christianity (christopaganism), and
has, therefore, made a break from christo-pagan polytheism. One of those
outward signs is to stop using the pagan (hellenized) Greek name of Jesus
(IHS).

One last thought, before we go to the refute itself. Why would the Messiah,
while hanging on the cross (stake), ever say to YHVH, "Eli, Eli, lama
sabachthani?" (My God, My God, Why hast thou forsaken me?) IF indeed
Y'shua was also God, because YHVH would never forsake Himself; on the
other hand, since Messiah Y'Shua is not God, but the Perfect Spiritual
Epitome of King David (as we should be), he might want us to make that
Spiritual (mental) connection (Psalms 22:1-25 Click).

The New Testament Verses

Did David call him God?

Matthew 22:41-45
41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Y'Shua (The
Messiah) asked them a question,
42 saying, "What do you think of The Messiah? Whose son is he?"
They said to him, "Of David."
43 He said to them, "How then does David in the Spirit call him (The
Messiah) Lord, saying,
44 'The Lord said to my Lord, Sit on my right hand, Until I make
your enemies a footstool for your feet?'
45 "If then David calls him Lord, how is he (The Messiah) his (David's)
son?" (How can a son be a lord over a parent? Especially when the
parent is King David.)

Here we can see why a lack of understanding is a dangerous thing,

especially in the hands of false ministers and priests.

In verse 42 above, when asked, "Whose son is he?" The Pharisees said "OF
David." Meaning OF the physical seed OF David. A son is not just simply
a son, but also, a grandson, great grandson, great-great grandson, etc..., and
likewise a parent is not simply a parent, but also, a Grandparent, Great
Grandparent, etc... .

In verse 43-45 above, "How then does David in the Spirit (now deceased OR
Spiritually speaking) call him Lord, saying, 'The Lord said to my Lord, Sit
on my right hand, Until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet?' "IF
then David calls him Lord, how is he his son?"

This riddle is based on a classic case of "Lord Confusion." Satan has used
the mistranslation of the Greek word "Kurios," as "Lord" to fool untold
millions of the Spiritually lazy. So what do these verses really say? And
what is a Kurios anyway?

Click Here to receive the true meaning of the word "Lord," when the word
"Lord" was translated from the Greek word "Kurios."

"How then does David in the Spirit call him (The Messiah) kurios, saying,
'THE KURIOS said to my kurios, Sit on my right hand, Until I (YHVH)
make your enemies a footstool for your feet?' "If then David calls him (The
Messiah) kurios, how is he (The Messiah) his (King David's) son?"

Again: How can a son be a lord over a parent? Especially when the parent is
King David.

So let's look at verses 43-45 again.

"How then does David in the Spirit (now deceased OR Spiritually speaking)
call him (Messiah) kurios, saying, 'THE KURIOS (Supreme Kurios or YHVH)
said to my kurios (Messiah), Sit on My right hand, Until I (YHVH) make
your (Messiah's) enemies a footstool for your (Messiah's) feet?' "If then
KING David calls Messiah Lord (kurios), how is Messiah his son?"

Answer: As a Spiritual "Title of Authority" received from YHVH that

will be given to all of YHVH's Elect (Spiritually begotten children, who speak as
one for YHVH by YHVH's authority). In other words this particular KURIOS is
a Holy and Righteous being that "Represents YHVH" as YHVH's proxy.

As for the Messiah (the first Spiritually begotten and appointed son or
kurios of YHVH). The Messiah is also King David's physically begotten son
(physical seed), that is because the Messiah is OF the physical seed (lineage)
of King David.

Romans 1:3
Concerning His (Spiritual) Son, Messiah Y'Shua, our master, which
was made (created) of the seed (DNA) of David according to the
flesh (natural physical sperm);
Now one might wonder why YHVH would need or desire a 100 percent
human proxy. Well, for one, YHVH's Kingdom on Earth (The Promised Land)
will be filled with both physical (mortal) and Spiritual (immortal) beings, and
the physical beings cannot look upon YHVH and live (see My Lord and My
God). Second of all, YHVH promised His True Worshippers that they would
become Judges (1 Corinthians 6:2) and Priests (Rev. 5:10) in the Coming
Kingdom of YHVH on Earth; And the only way to do that is to become a
KURIOS by the authority of YHVH.

The Greater Proof

I guarantee you all, that what you are about to read is one of many reason
why YHVH chose the Hebrew people to make Himself known to the world.
And to all of you who place such great importance on your Greek skills and
on the Septuagint, I have to tell you, "You have been handicapped from
the very start." Forget the Greek, and study the Tanakh (Older Testament) in
Hebrew; as the Apostles and Messiah Y'Shua did. As for you skeptics out
there who need greater proof, that the Greek word Kurios is not always
used to represent YHVH, and also, to demonstrate that the Greek language
and the Greek (or hellenized) translators (Jewish born translators, who chose to
become pagan Greeks) are NOT capable of providing the Spiritual detail of
the Hebrew language or the Inspired Hebrew writers, I am providing you
with this refute and proof of your handicap.

So without further ado, please make note that the Greek/English King James
version of Matthew 22:44 is supposed to be an exact quote of the Hebrew
in Psalms 110:1, but it is not. See for yourself, that in the Greek/English
version, both English words "Lord" came from the same Greek word
"Kurios." However, in the original Hebrew of Psalms (being quoted in
Matthew) a major distinction was made that was not carried over into the
Greek. Therefore, the Greek language and (or) the Greek translators were
either incapable of duplicating the Inspired Hebrew language and the
Inspired Hebrew writers and (or) they deliberately mistranslated the verse.
I say, "The Greek (Greco-Romans) is (are) guilty of all three."

Directly below is The original verse quoted by The messiah. Notice that
"Psalms" records two entirely different words with two entirely different
meanings, BUT that they were both deceptively translated as the ambiguous
word "Lord or LORD" with only capitals or lowercase letters to distinguish
them; of course this distinction was soon lost with subsequent translations.

English with Hebrew: Psalms 110:1 The LORD (Strong's # 3068, YHVH,
Yehovah, The Self-existent One; divine only) said unto my Lord (Strong's # 113,
Adon, sovereign controller; human or divine), Sit thou at my right hand, until
"I" make thine enemies thy footstool.

English with Greek: Matthew 22:44 The LORD (Strong's # 2962,

Kurios) said unto my Lord (Strong's 2962, Kurios), Sit thou on my right
hand, till "I" make thine enemies thy footstool?

Suddenly, "Adon" has been replaced by "Kurios," and then by "Lord."

Moreover, this deception, also, affects the entire meaning of the pronoun "I"
in as much as it defines YHVH / Yehovah as the Spiritual Power behind
Messiah Y'Shua, and NOT Y'Shua himself; thus, The Messiah is NOT GOD
!

This is why Satan (Natural Man) doesn't want its Trinitarian, Christo-
pagan churches using the Tanakh (Older Testament) or associating with
non-hellenized Jews and non-hellenized gentiles.

Did Matthew call him GOD?

Matthew 1:23
23 "Behold, the virgin (young maiden) shall be with child, and shall
bring forth a son. They shall call his name Immanuel;" which is, being
interpreted, "GOD with us."
 See Isaiah 7:14 below. (Click Here)

Did Messiah call himself GOD?

John 5:17-18
17 But Y'Shua answered them, "My Father is still working, so I am
working, too."
18 For this cause therefore the (these) Jews sought the more to kill
him, because he not only broke the Sabbath, but also called GOD his
own Father, making himself equal with GOD.

This is a joke, right? This in no way implies that the Messiah is actually
GOD or even equal to GOD. YHVH is not only the Messiah's Creator-
Father, but YHVH is my and your Creator-Father too! (Call no man Father -
Matthew 23:9 - Therefore YHVH is THE FATHER).
This statement in John 5:18 most assuredly establishes that the pagan
polytheistic concept of multiple gods, being fathered by a supreme god, was
already firmly planted in the minds of these particular Jews during this early
time frame; afterall, YHVH didn't allow the Jews to go into captivity
because they were obedient to Him. They (in general) had broken their
marriage vows (their Covenant) with YHVH by seeking other gods; this is
both 'Spiritual Adultery' and 'Spiritual Idolatry.'

Matthew 23:9
Call no man (or priest, etc.) on the earth your father, for one is
your FATHER, He (YHVH) who is in heaven.

Now let's consider this deception.

 John 8:58-59 (These are verses taken out of context, a common error)
58 Y'Shua said to them, "Most assuredly, I tell you, before Abraham
was born, I AM."
59 They took up stones therefore to throw at him, but Y'Shua hid
himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them,
and so passed by.

In order to fully grasp the mentality of Hebrews regarding pre-existence,

one must also have an understanding of the "Mind of YHVH." So if you
haven't already read the message on "The Holy Spirit," then you really
should Click Here.

In John 8:58 Y'Shua claimed superiority over Abraham. His supreme

position, however, depends on the Father who glorifies His Son (John 8:54).
He stated that Abraham rejoiced to "see my day" (John 8:56) - that is,
Abraham by faith envisioned Messiah's coming in advance of his actual
arrival. The day of Messiah "preexisted," so to speak, in Abraham's mind.
It is noteworthy that Rabbinic traditions state Abraham saw a vision of the
entire history of his descendants (Midrash Rabbah, XLIV, on Gen. 15:1-8)

Note: The Midrash method was employed by Ezra and his

associates when Ezra read the written Law to the Jews who had
returned to Jerusalem from exile (Neh. 8:1-8).
(additional commentary) says that God granted Abraham a
vision of the end times. The local Jews misunderstood what
Y'Shua had said, believing that he had made a claim to be
actually a contemporary of Abraham (John 8:57). However,
Y'Shua reaffirmed his absolute preeminence in God's plan with
the astonishing claim, "Before Abraham was, I am [he] (who
Abraham envisioned)" (John 8:58).

To grasp the meaning of the phrase "I am" in this text, it is essential to
compare it with John's frequent use of the same phrase, which is in several
places connected with the Messiahship of Y'Shua:

John10:30-33
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
28 I give eternal life to them (by the power invested in me by YHVH).
They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
(Why? Because...)
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all (even the
Messiah). No one is able to snatch them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and The FATHER are (as) one (Like Minded OR mentally agree "As
One")."
31 Therefore Jews took up stones again to stone at him.
32 Y'Shua answered them, "I have shown you many good works from
my Father (through me, His proxy). For which of those works do you
stone me?"
33 The Jews answered him, "We don't stone you for a good work, but
for blasphemy: because you, being a man, make yourself GOD" (The
Jews did not understand, and neither do the Christians).

Note: It is quite obvious that the pharisees and other Jews of

the Messiah's time did not understand what he was saying
anymore than the Trinitarians do today. They both think he was
calling himself GOD. This is an obvious polytheistic mental
concept, and the source of their confusion.
Revelation 1:1-8
(a future event being revealed in a past event to present time readers)

Note: The "Chain of Command" is evident here.

Additionally the "Chain of Command" levels change according
to the actual point in time, whether future or past, being referred
to. Therefore the numbers (#) refer to the future positions of the
participants within the "Chain of command" at the future time
of "The First Resurrection," which is "The Second Coming
of Messiah." Furthermore, Positions #1 and #2 in "The Chain
of Command are held by only one being each or one entity per
position, while subordinate positions (#3 and numerically higher)
are shared. I personally believe there will be up to seven levels
with "The Least in the Kingdom" at level #6, and those at
level #7 will receive "The Second (physical) Death", but this is
another story, and a non-redemptive issue. At any rate the levels
below #3 are not up to me, but to (#1) YHVH through His (#2)
 Magistrate, Y'Shua.

Note: It seems to me, that since YHVH's word is always

TRUE and harmonious, that if uncorrupted scripture even
mentions Y'Shua's secondary position to YHVH just once (and
it does many times), then Messiah Y'Shua is always secondary to
YHVH, and therefore cannot be YHVH, except by proxy.
Those who want to argue and (or) try to force people to believe
that Messiah Y'Shua (or Jesus if you must) is GOD do so to
protect their own polytheistic views, pride, and realm of power.

This is the Revelation of (#2 level) Y'Shua Messiah, which (#1 level)
GOD (YHVH) gave him (#2 Y'Shua) to show to his (#3) servants (or
The Chosen Few or Elect) the things which must happen soon, which he
(#2 or Y'Shua) sent and made known by his angel (future #4 or #5 Angel
Messengers) to his servant (future #3 Servant or Minister), John,
2 who testified to (#1) GOD's word, and of the testimony of (#2)
Messiah Y'Shua, about everything that (#3) he (John) saw.
3 Blessed is (#3 & #4) he who reads and those who hear the words of
the prophecy, and keep the things that are written in it, for the time is
at hand.
4 (#3) John, to the seven (#3 level to #4 level) assemblies that are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace, from (#1) Him (Strong's #575, He who is
separate - YHVH), who is and who was and who is to come; and from
the seven Spirits who are before (#1) His throne;
5 and (also) from (#2) Messiah Y'Shua, the faithful witness, the
firstborn (Spiritually begotten) of the (physically) dead, and the (#2)
ruler of the kings of the earth. To (#2) him who loves us, and washed
us from our sins by his blood (example of Living Sacrifice);
6 and (#2) he made us to be a kingdom, priests to (#2) his (#1) GOD and
Father; to (#2) him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever.
Amen. (end of thought or statement)

7(New statement) Behold, (#2) he is coming with the clouds, and every
eye will see (#2) him, including those who pierced him. All the tribes
of the earth will mourn (weep) over (because of) (#2) him. Even so,
Amen. (end of thought or statement)

8 (New statement) "(#1) I (YHVH) am the Alpha and the Omega, the
 Beginning and the End," says the (#1) Lord (Kurios, but with further
explanation), "Who is and who was and who is to come, the
Almighty" (YHVH is this "Almighty" Kurios).

Again we have YHVH's Ambassador OR Proxy to mankind (Messiah

Y'Shua), speaking for YHVH, as IF he was YHVH (Exactly the same as the
Prophets of Old did), and sometimes it appears (to the less knowledgeable) that
the speaker is actually The Creator for whom he speaks. Presently this will
always be the case since the veil of the temple (Matthew 27:51) was torn
asunder at Messiah's death and end of Messiah Y'Shua Ministry on Earth.
However, we still pray directly to YHVH, and YHVH hears us (True
Worshippers only), because of Messiah Y'Shua's "Living Sacrifice," which
we, also, maintain as the focal point of our own lives .

Romans 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of GOD, that
ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, Holy, acceptable unto
GOD, which is your reasonable service.

Did the Angels call him GOD?

Luke 2:11
11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is
the anointed one of the Kurios.

Note: If you need to read or reread Kurios Click Here.

Did John call him GOD? (Updated 12-4-2002)

John 1:1-5 (A Major Trinitarian Deception)
1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word (Strong's #3056, LOGOS; a Motive or
Intent, an utterance or thought), and the Word (Utterance with Motive or
Intent ) was with GOD, and the Word (Utterance with Motive or Intent )
was (of) GOD.
2 The same (Utterance with Motive or Intent ) was in the beginning with
GOD (YHVH).
3 All things were made by Him (YHVH according to Motive or Intent or
Plan); and without Him (YHVH according to Motive or Intent or Plan)
was not anything made that was made.
4 In Him (YHVH according to Motive or Intent or Plan of Salvation) was
life; and the life (eternal) was the light of men.
5 And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness
comprehended it (The Light) not.

Note: The Messiah is not "The Logos;" The Messiah is the

"Instrument of Salvation," and the "Intent or Motive is
Salvation" for YHVH's "Elect" or "Chosen Few." Strong's
also, list the Messiah as the "Divine Expression," but does not
go so far as to say 'The Messiah' is "The Logos." A "Divine
Expression" is a figure of speech that must, also, remain
within the overall meaning of the definition. Obviously, the
Messiah was always "Intended" to play a major role in
"Salvation." However, the "Logos" is not just simply a "Plan
of Salvation," as YHVH's primary motive has always been to
Spiritually Beget Righteous Children "In His Image" of which
the Messiah is the eldest, and "The Chosen Few" are the
Spiritual Siblings.

Note: When looking up the definition of a word in a

concordance, MAKE SURE that the understanding of the
definition derived is well within the context of ALL the words
shown. Even definitions must remain "In Context."
For when YHVH spoke "In the Beginning" (Genesis 1), He (YHVH) was
making the utterance of "The Logos." See for yourself, as "The Light"
in John 1:5 is the very same "Light" spoken of in Genesis 1:1-3. Why?
Because the Sun, Moon and the Stars were not created until the "Fourth
Day" (Genesis 1:13-18).

John 1:5
5 And the light (Righteousness of YHVH) shines in darkness
(unrighteousness); and the darkness (Choshek - H2822) comprehended
it (The Light) not.

Genesis 1:1-3 ("The Logos" is an utterance or thought)

In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the Earth was formless and empty. Darkness (Choshek -
H2822) was on the surface of the deep. YHVH's Righteous Spirit was
hovering over the surface of the waters.
3 GOD said (or thought), "Let there be Light," and there was
light (The Beginning of Righteousness, Love, Understanding, Divine
Wisdom).

When we read "A Bible" of course it will read as written and as translated by
those who were originally hellenized (pagan Greek translators) and as by
those Christians, who are also hellenized, that translated it; Moffatt is no
different. However, when you look at the pure Greek, and Hebrew you see
that logos means something quite different.

Logos (log' os) (G#3056) something said (or thought); by implication, a

topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (mentality or motive or spirit),
or as with St. John "A Divine Expression" (from The Divine Father).

The Christians have gone to great lengths to even add their own personal
interpretations to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. Regardless, The
Expression is only Divine because it was THOUGHT (not actually spoken) by
the Divine Being, YHVH. SO . . . . what was that "Divine Expression?"

Genesis 1:3 "Then GOD said, "Let there be LIGHT" and there was
LIGHT (Divine Light or Divine Wisdom was introduced).

As we know, The Day LIGHT (lights) wasn't (weren't) created until the fourth
day in the firmament of heaven, THIS is confirmed by the word
"DARKNESS" (H2822, Choshek) in verse 2.

Choshek (H2822) literal darkness, but figuratively meaning misery,

destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness, but not meaning
physical absence of sunlight.

Therefore, YHVH decided to put an END to misery, destruction, death,

ignorance, sorrow, and wickedness with LIGHT (The Divine Revelation of
Righteousness). That Divine Revelation has been revealed to be THE GOAL
of YHVH's "PLAN Of SALVATION;" and as we know, The Messiah played
The Pivotal Role in that Divine Plan, but others also played important parts
in YHVH's Divine Plan (Moses, King David, Abraham, Apostles, etc. . . .).

Proverbs 8:all is especially good, because it literally spells out that "The
Light" was WISDOM (Divine Wisdom).

So there you have it, AND suddenly the Hellenized (pagan) Christian Effects
are very obvious.

Note: And thus, "The Plan of Salvation" was initiated, and

YHVH began the process of begetting Righteous children (not
just one), of which Messiah Y'Shua is the First appointed son
and Y'Shua is YHVH's primary LIGHT source and YHVH's
 source of Righteous understanding for mankind. (Revelation
21:23).

Revelation 22:5 (After the First Resurrection)

And there shall be no night (darkness) there; and they need no candle,
neither light of the sun; for the Lord GOD (YHVH) giveth them
light: and they (The Chosen Few) shall reign forever and ever.

Now let's consider another deception.

1John 3:16
16 Hereby perceive we the love of GOD, because he (Messiah) laid
down his life for us (to teach us the "Selfless Love of GOD"): and we
ought to lay down our lives for the brethren (because we too have the
"Love of GOD").

This is extremely far fetched, and just goes to prove the extreme to which
Trinitarians will go in order to try to prove a lie. Obviously those with the
"Love of GOD" are not GOD, but have GOD's "Holy Spirit of Love."
Notice the word "perceive?" This is a keyword that tells us that the revealer
of truth (The Holy Spirit) will open our mind's eye, so that we may perceive
the truth concerning "The Love of GOD."

1John 5:18-20
18 ¶ We (The Chosen) know that whosoever is born of GOD sins not
(stops sinning); but he that is (Spiritually) begotten of God keeps
himself, and that wicked one touches him not.
19 And we (The Chosen) know that we (The Chosen) are of GOD (we
have YHVH's Holy Spirit or Mentality), and the whole world lies in
wickedness.
20 And we (The Chosen) know that the Son of GOD (Messiah) is come,
 and hath given us an understanding (Light through YHVH's Holy Spirit),
that we (The Chosen) may know Him (YHVH) that is true, and we (The
Chosen) are in Him (YHVH) that is true, even (also) in His Son,
Messiah Y'Shua. This (YHVH) is the true GOD, and eternal life (is
YHVH's gift through Messiah's teachings).

Does a lack of understanding ever cease? This next one shows a very
elementary lack of understanding.

Did the blind man call him GOD?

John 9:35-38
35 ¶ Y'Shua heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found
him, he said unto him, Do you believe on the Son of GOD?
36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord (Kurios), that I might
believe on him?
37 And Y'Shua said unto him, You have both seen him, and it is he
(Son of GOD, not GOD) that talks with thee.
38 And he said, Lord (Kurios), I believe. And he "kissed his hand"
(Strong's,# G4352, proskuneo, kneeled before him and/or kissed his hand in
respect for his authority).

Here Y'Shua only claims to be "A Son of GOD," but the Trinitarians have
chosen to ignore this obvious lower position of authority, and focus on the
ambiguous word "Lord" (Kurios). This is just another example of the
desperate measures that polytheistic thinking trinitarians will stoop to in
order to preserve their spiritually darkened lives. The Son of GOD statement
simply reinforces what I have been saying all along; regardless of the
ambiguous word Lord (Kurios) statement. Since Kurios has already been
discussed I will continue on without further discussion on the Kurios
subject, unless it is brought up again (below) in this refute, in which case, and
from this point onward I will just tell you that we have another Kurios
Misunderstanding.
Did Thomas call him GOD?

John 20:28
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord (Kurios) and
my GOD (Theos).

This is the typical Kurios and Theos misunderstanding. Read about the
Kurios and Theos in the message "My Lord and My God."

Did Peter call him GOD?

Acts 10:34-36
34 ¶ Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that
Theos (could be either YHVH or Y'Shua) is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that fears Him (probably YHVH), and works
righteousness, is accepted with Him (could be either YHVH or Y'Shua).
36 The word which was (GOD was not in the original texts here, but was
added by trinitarian translators) sent unto the children of Israel,
preaching peace by Messiah Y'Shua: (he is Kurios of all:)

Again, we have another Kurios misunderstanding, and an improper

manipulation of text.

Did Paul call him GOD?

 Acts 20:28
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the
which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the assembly
of Theos, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

This is another Theos misunderstanding. Read or reread about the Kurios

and Theos in the message "My Lord and My God."

Philippians 2:5-6
5 Let this mind (Holy Spirit) be in you, which was also in Messiah
Y'Shua:
6 Who, being in the form (Spiritual Image) of God, thought it not
robbery to be equal with God (in Spiritual RIGHTEOUSNESS ONLY -
Jeremiah 23:6):

Oh Boy, if this misunderstanding doesn't reek of Satan (Source of Human

Nature) then nothing does! Satan, who sees itself as the rightful heir of
YHVH, has just used its very own selfish influence (Human Nature) to make
those without understanding to think that the Messiah desires to be equal to
YHVH; but it is Satan (Not Messiah) that stated it would be "Like the Most
High" (Isaiah 14:14). Sounds like Satan's false messiah is the Anti-Messiah.

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Theos
(#2 level leader) was manifest (appeared) in the flesh, justified in the
Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the
world, received up (Spiritually) into glory.

This is another Theos misunderstanding.

 Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the
great Theos and our (proxy) Savior, Messiah Y'Shua;

This is another Theos misunderstanding.

Did YHVH (GOD) call him GOD?

This is probably the most lame (blind) statement of all. Now the Babylonian
Trinitarian fever has reached its greatest heights of self-deception. Now we
have YHVH calling the Messiah, "YHVH." Here we are expected to believe
that GOD talks to Himself. As if YHVH, the supreme Spiritual mentality in
all the universe and beyond has to communicate with Himself by talking to
Himself. I am sorry, but I cannot believe that YHVH is schizophrenic. But I
do believe, and it is scriptural, that Messiah Y'Shua is as close as any human
can get to being GOD, without actually being GOD. And therein lies all the
misunderstandings and deceptions brought down upon mankind by Satan
(Source of Human Nature) and its deceivers.

Hebrews 1:1-2, 6-10

(verses 1 and 2 were included to show that YHVH does indeed use proxies
to speak on His behalf.)

1 ¶ GOD (THEOS, Strong's #2316), who at sundry times and in diverse

manners spoke in time past unto the (human) fathers by the prophets
(YHVH's proxies),
2 Has in these "latter days" spoken unto us by His Son (also a proxy
for YHVH), whom He hath appointed heir of all things (that are
Created), for whom also he made (created) the (physical) world;

6 (in the future) When He (YHVH) again brings in the firstborn into the
world (at the First Resurrection, yet to come) He says, "Let all the angels
of GOD reverence him" (as their superior).
7 (in the future) Of the angels He says, "Who makes his (the Messiah's)
angels winds, and his servants a flame of fire?" (Answer: YHVH will do
this for All of His sons)
8 (Apostle Paul speaking) but of the Son (the Messiah) He says, "Your
throne, THEOS (Strong's #2316), is forever and ever; The scepter of
uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom (On Earth).
9 You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore
THEOS (#2), your THEOS (#1), has anointed you With the oil of
gladness above your fellows."

Note: This is so obvious as to be laughable. If Theos always

refers to The Supreme Being YHVH (and it does not), then it
makes zero sense that this verse would establish Theos as being
subservient to Himself.

However, If Theos is not always the supreme being YHVH

(which is the case), then this verse does make sense; and (again),
just as in the case of the term Kurios, definitely establishes a
"Chain of Command," wherein the Messiah is the highest
ranking created being in the universe; but he is still not The
Self-existent Creator, YHVH.

This type of confusion is why uninspired hellenized Jews and

other uninspired paganized translators should never have been
used to translate the Inspired word of YHVH. Only YHVH's
elect (Chosen Few) have the ability to understand and interpret
YHVH's words; for it is The Holy Spirit (mind of YHVH) that
reveals truth (John 14:26; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Therefore, pagan
Roman or pagan Greek translators, whether Jewish born or not,
will always misinterpret the Spiritually inspired word(s) of
YHVH. If they didn't, then this refute would not be necessary.

10 (Apostle Paul speaking) And, "You, Kurios (YHVH), in the

beginning, laid the foundation of the earth. The heavens are the works
of your hands.
If necessary read about the Kurios and Theos in the message "My Lord
and My God."

The Older Testament Verses

Did Isaiah call him God?

Isaiah 7:14
14 Therefore the Lord (Adonay)(YHVH) Himself will give you a sign:
behold, a virgin (young maiden) shall conceive, and bear a (human) son,
and shall call his name Immanuel (Strong's #6005, meaning "GOD is
with us" - Spiritually Speaking, not physically speaking).

Note: Obviously the Messiah was not actually named

Immanuel or Emmanuel, and therefore this was not a literal
statement, but a figurative one. This is the same Hebrew
concept as YHVH is with us through His Ambassador,
Proxy or Kurios (who is Y'Shua Messiah). This is another case of
wishful thinking, and it would be completely out of sync with
all scripture if the figurative meaning of the name Immanuel
were taken literally.

Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a (human) child is born, unto us a (human) son is given;
 and the government (of the Coming Kingdom of YHVH on Earth) shall be
on his shoulder: and his name shall be (someday) called Wonderful
(Strong's #6382, "PELE," A Miracle or A Wonder or A Marvel), Counselor
(Strong's #3289, "YA'ATS," One who guides or advises), Mighty "EL"
(Strong's #410, "EL," Strength, Mighty, and may be used with ANY deity or
idol, but normally as a compound word, similar to "El Shaddai"),
Everlasting Father (Strong's #1, "AB" figuratively used in a future or
remote application as a Chief or Principal or as a father, but not THE
FATHER) , Prince of Peace (self-explanatory).

(Return to Matthew 1:23)

Did Jeremiah call him God?

Jeremiah 23:5-6
5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD (Strong's #3068, Yehovah,
Jehovah, The "Self-existent GOD"), that I (YHVH) will raise unto David
a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall
execute judgment and justice on The Earth (by proxy).
6 In his (Messiah's) days (as future King of YHVH's Kingdom on Earth)
(New or Spiritual) Judah shall be saved, and (New or Spiritual) Israel
shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called,
THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS (Strong's #3072, Yehovah
tsidqenuw, a symbolical epithet of the Messiah) or "The Righteousness of
Jehovah."

Did Paul Call Him GOD? (Philippians 2:5-6)

Was Messiah Prophesied as GOD or A Human Prophet?

 Deuteronomy 4:10 (spoken to Moses)
Specially the day that thou stoodest before the YHVH thy LORD in
Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together,
and I (YHVH) will make them hear my words, that they may learn to
fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they
may teach their children.
They gathered and feared the presence of YHVH. They cried out to
Moses let us hear you instead of YHVH.

Deuteronomy 18:16-18 (spoken to Moses)

According to all that thou desired of YHVH thy LORD (while) in
Horeb in the day of the assembly (Deu. 4:10 above), saying, Let me
not hear again the voice of YHVH my GOD, neither let me see this
great fire any more, that I die not.
And YHVH said unto me (Moses), They have well spoken that which
they have spoken.
YHVH is pleased they did not want to see or hear Him (because).
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their (human)
brethren, just like you (Moses), and (I, YHVH) will put my words in
his mouth; and he (Messiah Y'Shua) shall speak unto them all that I
shall command him (by my Righteousness Seeking Holy Spirit or
Mindset). And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken
unto my words which he (the human Prophet or Messiah) shall speak
in my name (as my proxy), I will require it (his disobedience) of him.

This is a prophecy of a fully human Messiah, as another one of YHVH's

prophets (human proxy), only this fully human prophet will ultimately be
given the full power of YHVH.

Read: The Throne Of YHVH, Who Sits On It?

Read: SCY Congregational Doctrine

Psalms 22:1-25
(Key words and phrases in bold letters)

My GOD, my GOD, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from
helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
2 O my GOD, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night
season, and am not silent.
3 But thou art Holy, O thou that inhabits the praises of Israel.
4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and
were not confounded.
6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the
people.
7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn (Messiah's Roman Guards mocked
him): they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
8 He trusted on the L_RD that he would deliver him: let Him deliver him,
seeing he delighted in Him.
9 But thou art He that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope
when I was upon my mother’s breasts.
10 I was cast upon thee from the womb (not before): thou art my GOD
from my mother’s belly.
11 ¶ Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me
round.
13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
14 I am poured out like water (when his side was pierced), and all my bones
are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my
bowels.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd (broken pottery); and my
tongue cleaveth to my jaws (he thirsted); and thou hast brought me into
the dust of death.
16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed
me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O L_RD: O my strength, haste thee to help
me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of
the unicorns.
22 ¶ I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the
congregation will I praise thee.
23 Ye that fear the L_RD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him;
and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
24 For He (YHVH) hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the
afflicted (neither Messiah nor David); neither hath He (YHVH) hid His face
from him; but when he cried unto Him, He (YHVH) heard (YHVH did not
turn His back on Messiah).
25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows
before them that fear Him.